Re: [CTRL] [LeftLibertarian] Rockefeller-Morgan Wars
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian] Rockefeller-Morgan Wars Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 9:06 PM From: "Lloyd Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lloyd, I have never seen anything like this before, in print or otherwise. What are your sources! Can you expand on this, i.e., when did the change occur, what motivated the attack (specifically, not general rivalry, etc.)? Freely as ever, SEK3 My theories on the Rockefeller-Morgan conflict stem from Rothbard and the books of Dr. Emanuel Josephson which Rothbard recommended. For some reason, Rothbard only rarely expounded on this topic in public. Further, other conspiracy theorists, usually the anti-Semitic ones, have presented some of the same theory as the Rockefeller-Rothschild conflict theory based on the incorrect idea that the Rothschilds have controlled the "City" and "Britain" since their financial coup after Waterloo. A better theoretical framework in my view is The British Empire or Crown vs the upstart Rockefellers.There is every reason to think that Democracy in Britain has always been a fraud, an arena for covert manipulation by the massive fortunes of the Monarch and related Royal Fortunes and their bankers of the City. This also fits easily into A-albionic's overall theory of British Empire vs the Vatican as the Rockefellers, in their fight for oil with the British-Dutch forces world-wide, sided with the "continental" authoritarian/fascist forces in league with the Vatican, always the enemies of the British Empire for world domination since Queen Elizabeth I. There is evidence compatible with A-albionic theories in just about every history book and biography you pick-up. However, my interpretation is fairly original in this era. The theory is not new, however, and was much more well known in earlier eras, though often confusedly presented in the context of religious dogma be it Masonic, anti-Masonic, Catholic, or anti-Catholic. Someday I should write a book on the subject. *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 7:47 AM Subject: [LeftLibertarian] Rockefeller-Morgan Wars From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Standard Oil Trust was a prime target of the Progressive Movement. Anti-Trust laws succeeded in breaking-up the Trust, but it continued on subrosa and changed its tactics, taking over Federal Government and via the formerly Anglophile complex of tactics and Institutions. For instance, Rockefeller money overwhelmed the CFR, Carnegie Trust and a plethora similar ruling class, originally Anglophile, "good government" fronts. All the best, MHO "All I know is that I know nothing"-Socrates *** Lloyd Miller Lloyd, I have never seen anything like this before, in print or otherwise. What are your sources! Can you expand on this, i.e., when did the change occur, what motivated the attack (specifically, not general rivalry, etc.)? Freely as ever, SEK3 Community email addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/LeftLibertarian --- ONElist Sponsor GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in forms and passwords with just one click! Comes with $50 in free coupons! a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/gator4 "Click Here/a Community email addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shortcut URL
Re: [CTRL] [LeftLibertarian] Rockefeller-Morgan Wars
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian] Rockefeller-Morgan Wars Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 3:51 AM From: "Lloyd Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you expand on this, i.e., when did the change occur, what motivated the attack (specifically, not general rivalry, etc.)? In the late 19th and early 20th centuries the British Empire was at it peak. Not only was there the official Empire but networks of influence in every significant country. In America this pro-British Party was lead by the Morgan Bank, the leading force amongst East Coast Anglophile Blue Bloods. Standard Oil arose as a primarily self-financing entity by consolidating oil refinery and pipeline capacity outside the control of the Morgan orbit. [Rockefeller's financing to the extent he needed it came from German Warburgs' Manhattan Bank which later became the Chase Manhattan under Rockefeller control.] The British Imperialists dared not let such a powerful independent entity arise and challenge their control of the US Government. Thus, Morgan backed Progressives, Teddy Roosevelt, etc. trying to torpedo the "bad trusts", ie. the Rockefeller behemoth. This scenario is also confirmed in many ways by Gabriel Kolko's Triumph of Conservatism. Kolko exposed the covert ruling class agenda behind the Progressive Era. Geopolitics explains the detail, not the other way around! Lloyd - Original Message - From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian] Rockefeller-Morgan Wars From: "Lloyd Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lloyd, I have never seen anything like this before, in print or otherwise. What are your sources! Can you expand on this, i.e., when did the change occur, what motivated the attack (specifically, not general rivalry, etc.)? Freely as ever, SEK3 My theories on the Rockefeller-Morgan conflict stem from Rothbard and the books of Dr. Emanuel Josephson which Rothbard recommended. For some reason, Rothbard only rarely expounded on this topic in public. Further, other conspiracy theorists, usually the anti-Semitic ones, have presented some of the same theory as the Rockefeller-Rothschild conflict theory based on the incorrect idea that the Rothschilds have controlled the "City" and "Britain" since their financial coup after Waterloo. A better theoretical framework in my view is The British Empire or Crown vs the upstart Rockefellers.There is every reason to think that Democracy in Britain has always been a fraud, an arena for covert manipulation by the massive fortunes of the Monarch and related Royal Fortunes and their bankers of the City. This also fits easily into A-albionic's overall theory of British Empire vs the Vatican as the Rockefellers, in their fight for oil with the British-Dutch forces world-wide, sided with the "continental" authoritarian/fascist forces in league with the Vatican, always the enemies of the British Empire for world domination since Queen Elizabeth I. There is evidence compatible with A-albionic theories in just about every history book and biography you pick-up. However, my interpretation is fairly original in this era. The theory is not new, however, and was much more well known in earlier eras, though often confusedly presented in the context of religious dogma be it Masonic, anti-Masonic, Catholic, or anti-Catholic. Someday I should write a book on the subject. *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 7:47 AM Subject: [LeftLibertarian] Rockefeller-Morgan Wars From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Standard Oil Trust was a prime target of the Progressive Movement. Anti-Trust laws succeeded in breaking-up the
