Re: Fwd: [IP] Gilmore bounced from plane; and Farber censors Gilmore's email
At 11:36 PM 7/20/03 -0700, John Kozubik wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Steve Schear wrote: remove a small 1 button pinned to my left lapel. I declined, saying that it was a political statement and that he had no right to censor passengers' political speech. The button, which was created by Where do these ridiculous ideas come from ? If I own a piece of private property, like an airplane (or an entire airline) for instance, I can impose whatever senseless and arbitrary conditions on your use of it as I please. Yes. Except that you entered into a contract to transport a human in exchange for money. No where in the contract was banned speech mentioned. Suppose that instead two men were kicked off a flight for holding hands, or a woman offspring for breast-feeding. That would be a violation of the transportation contract. Because such behavior does not endanger the flight or passengers. (Although all behaviors cannot be enumerated, under a reasonable common-law interpretation of the contract, passive speech (vs. say screaming the whole flight) is harmless.) Private property rights, of course. But contract law too.
Re: Fwd: [IP] Gilmore bounced from plane; and Farber censors Gilmore's email
On Monday 21 July 2003 02:36, John Kozubik wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Steve Schear wrote: remove a small 1 button pinned to my left lapel. I declined, saying that it was a political statement and that he had no right to censor passengers' political speech. The button, which was created by Where do these ridiculous ideas come from ? If I own a piece of private property, like an airplane (or an entire airline) for instance, I can impose whatever senseless and arbitrary conditions on your use of it as I please. Look up common carrier. I note that you are attempting to appropriate the property rights of others (albeit in a small way) through a court decision (ie. guns) under the auspices of your perceived right to use their property as you see fit. I'm generally agreed with you here, but regulated industries are so far from the libertarian ideal that there's little point to applying it to real-life cases such as this. -- Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that these people have these weapons at all! -- Rep. Henry Waxman
Re: Defeating Optical Tempest will be easy...
At 02:17 AM 7/21/03 +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: There is some minuscule proportion of X-rays produced by CRT displays. Produced by the ebeam decelerating on the shadow mask, but adsorbed by the glass.
Heathrow employees leap out of kettle
http://silicon.com/news/164-51/1/5237.html?rolling=1 Staff were angered by the roll out of swipe cards which effectively enable bosses to monitor their comings and goings and effectively re-introduced the practice of clocking-on and clocking-off. [...] Around 100,000 travellers and holidaymakers were left stranded at the world's busiest international airport by the unofficial action over the weekend. Of course, the rest of us are not so privledged. Adam -- It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. -Hume
nettime Help Wanted: Internet Spy
--- begin forwarded text Status: U From: Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: nettime Help Wanted: Internet Spy Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:50:41 -0400 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting ad seen at http://www.rand.org/jobs: * Posting Title: Research Programmer Location: (S) Santa Monica Reference: 001241 Job Description: Research Programmer RAND is seeking a Research Programmer to work on various information technology, security and assurance projects in our Santa Monica office. It is preferred that the individual have familiarity with various applied psychological measures that can be used to help with information protection systems. Under general supervision, the research programmer will be expected to search, monitor and track information and software tools that relate and leverage off these measures in the context of information security. More generally, the position requires skills in searching for highly technical, computer-related information and programs within a variety of Internet and Web sources, and organizing and structuring this material in a database for a project's use. Educational Requirements: Bachelors degree (or equivalent experience) in Mathematics, Economics, Statistics, Computer Science, Engineering, or other quantitative or computer discipline. Master preferred. Coursework or experience must cover research methods, policy analysis, and critical infrastructure protection. Specific technical skills required: Thorough technical knowledge of current computer operating systems (e.g., Linux, Solaris, Open BSD, Windows), and programming languages (e.g., Lisp, Prolog, C, Perl). Must be extremely proficient in such Internet and Web technologies as anonymizing sites, IRC and chat rooms, and downloading and investigating properties of hacker toolkits and related software. Ability to organize and structure information within a database for project use is mandatory. Related experience required: 3 - 5 years Type of experience required/preferred: Applicant should have excellent interpersonal skills, be able to conduct independent investigations of online sites, and participate in online dialogs (IRC, chats) by gaining the trust of relevant persons. Experience with the content and participants of such computer security conferences as the Black Hat Briefings, DEFCON, and CANSECWest/core03 would be useful. A security clearance is not required, but is desirable. Location: Santa Monica # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- end forwarded text -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: A day in the life
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 04:07:58PM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: [ID experience at giant mega-corp casino] [ID experience at Jiffy-loob] If you patronize only corporate mega-stores, this is what you get. None of the (locally-owned) resturants I eat breakfast at do any loyalty card bullshit, they happily accept anonymous cash and the food is wonderful. The vendors at the local farmer's market take cash too. The local stores in the chain of bicycle stores I sometimes go to for tires and parts do sometimes ask me if I want to be on their buyers club thing, I just say no and that's fine with them. You need to shop at stores run by humans. If you have to patronize a mega-corp, stick up for yourself. They insist because it works on most people. There is no need to baaah along with the sheep. Eric
Re: Cypherpunks archive
On Monday 21 July 2003 19:49, someone wrote: Can you make the raw mbox archive available, or do you have that? If it's less than about 200 meg, I can also receive it as an attachment, if you're sadistic with your mail server. Let me think about it, and maybe ask some of the list members. The HTML that appears on the web page is sanitized a bit to prevent address harvesting. Not that c-punks' addresses are that hard to obtain other ways, but when I started the archive several people emphatically stated that they wanted the sanitizing. Maybe I'll write a short script to sanitize the addresses in the mbox. That'll take a while to develop, to make sure I don't miss anything and because my spare time is limited for the next month and a half. If I do make the mboxes available, they'll be available as .gz's off my top cypherpunks page. I'll post to the list if I do it. List members: any preferences? SRF -- Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that these people have these weapons at all! -- Rep. Henry Waxman
Re: A 'Funky A.T.M.' Lets You Pay for Purchases Made Online
On Monday 21 July 2003 01:12, R. A. Hettinga wrote: http://nytimes.com/2003/07/21/technology/21PATE.html?pagewanted=prin tposition= A 'Funky A.T.M.' Lets You Pay for Purchases Made Online I worked on a commercial digital money system a few years ago. One of their business models was almost identical to Amos': stick cash in a kiosk to get electronic money. It'd be interesting to see how that system plays with Amos' patent. (I won't be able to observe directly, as I was fired from that company because I'm an incompetent slacker (boss's view) or because the boss was a jack-booted jackass (my view).) -- Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that these people have these weapons at all! -- Rep. Henry Waxman
Re: Fwd: [IP] Gilmore bounced from plane; and Farber censors Gilmore's email
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Where do these ridiculous ideas come from ? If I own a piece of private property, like an airplane (or an entire airline) for instance, I can impose whatever senseless and arbitrary conditions on your use of it as I please. Yes. Except that you entered into a contract to transport a human in exchange for money. No where in the contract was banned speech mentioned. If there are no provisions whatever for discretionary removal, then BA was wrong to remove Gilmore - they broke their agreement. However, I'll bet if you read _all_ the fine print, somewhere there exists in the contract/agreement a provision for just that. - John Kozubik - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.kozubik.com
