Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] more on U.S. passports to receive RFID implants start
At 01:31 AM 10/30/05 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: They've said they'll fall back on the traditional If we can't read the passport it's invalid and you'll need to replace it before we'll let you leave the country technique, just as they often do with expired passports and sometimes What is the procedure (or are they secret :-) for passports which become damaged whilst travelling out of country? With a drivers license, if the magstrip doesn't work, they type in the numbers. But the biometrics are not encoded, its just a convenience. With a passport, they're relying on the chip or no? (Mechanical damage to the chip should work as well as RF or antenna damage. You will have to find the chip and crack it, mere flexing of the paper carrier doesn't work by design.)
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] more on U.S. passports to receive RFID implants start
At 01:31 AM 10/30/05 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: They've said they'll fall back on the traditional If we can't read the passport it's invalid and you'll need to replace it before we'll let you leave the country technique, just as they often do with expired passports and sometimes What is the procedure (or are they secret :-) for passports which become damaged whilst travelling out of country? With a drivers license, if the magstrip doesn't work, they type in the numbers. But the biometrics are not encoded, its just a convenience. With a passport, they're relying on the chip or no? (Mechanical damage to the chip should work as well as RF or antenna damage. You will have to find the chip and crack it, mere flexing of the paper carrier doesn't work by design.)
blocking fair use? 2 Science Groups Say Kansas Can't Use Their Evolution Papers
Here's a very interesting case where (c)holders are trying to ban fair use (educational) of (c) material. I agree with their motivations ---Kansan theo-edu-crats need killing for their continuing child abuse-- but I don't see how they can get around the fair use provisions. (Bypassing whether the state should run schools, or even pay for them, for now.) 2 Science Groups Say Kansas Can't Use Their Evolution Papers Sign In to E-Mail This Printer-Friendly Reprints Save Article By JODI WILGOREN Published: October 27, 2005 CHICAGO, Oct. 27 - Two leading science organizations have denied the Kansas board of education permission to use their copyrighted materials in the state's proposed new science standards because of the standards' critical approach to evolution. The National Academy of Sciences and the National Science Teachers Association said the much-disputed new standards will put the students of Kansas at a competitive disadvantage as they take their place in the world. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/national/27cnd-kansas.html?hpex=1130472000en=8207d57fc0db8ecaei=5094partner=homepage
Court Blocks Ga. Photo ID Requirement
[Using the *financial* angle, having to show state-photo-ID is overturned to vote is overturned. Interesting if this could be used for other cases where the state wants ID.] Today: October 27, 2005 at 12:33:27 PDT Court Blocks Ga. Photo ID Requirement ASSOCIATED PRESS ATLANTA (AP) - A federal appeals court Thursday refused to let the state enforce a new law requiring voters to show photo identification at the polls. Earlier this month, a federal judge barred the state from using the law during local elections next month, saying it amounted to an unconstitutional poll tax that could prevent poor people, blacks and the elderly from the voting. The state asked the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to lift the stay, but the court declined. Under the law, voters could show a driver's license, or else obtain a state-issued photo ID at a cost of up to $35. http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2005/oct/27/102700584.html
Re: [PracticalSecurity] Anonymity - great technology but hardly used
At 08:41 PM 10/26/05 -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 23:40 -0500, Travis H. wrote: Many of the anonymity protocols require multiple participants, and thus are subject to what economists call network externalities. The best example I can think of is Microsoft Office file formats. I don't buy MS Office because it's the best software at creating documents, but I have to buy it because the person in HR insists on making our timecards in Excel format. 1) You have told your HR person what a bad idea it is to introduce a dependency on a proprietary file format, right? 2) OpenOffice can read Excel spreadsheets, and I would assume it can save the changes back to them as well. Why don't you send her comma-delimited text, Excel can import it?
Court Blocks Ga. Photo ID Requirement
[Using the *financial* angle, having to show state-photo-ID is overturned to vote is overturned. Interesting if this could be used for other cases where the state wants ID.] Today: October 27, 2005 at 12:33:27 PDT Court Blocks Ga. Photo ID Requirement ASSOCIATED PRESS ATLANTA (AP) - A federal appeals court Thursday refused to let the state enforce a new law requiring voters to show photo identification at the polls. Earlier this month, a federal judge barred the state from using the law during local elections next month, saying it amounted to an unconstitutional poll tax that could prevent poor people, blacks and the elderly from the voting. The state asked the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to lift the stay, but the court declined. Under the law, voters could show a driver's license, or else obtain a state-issued photo ID at a cost of up to $35. http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2005/oct/27/102700584.html
blocking fair use? 2 Science Groups Say Kansas Can't Use Their Evolution Papers
Here's a very interesting case where (c)holders are trying to ban fair use (educational) of (c) material. I agree with their motivations ---Kansan theo-edu-crats need killing for their continuing child abuse-- but I don't see how they can get around the fair use provisions. (Bypassing whether the state should run schools, or even pay for them, for now.) 2 Science Groups Say Kansas Can't Use Their Evolution Papers Sign In to E-Mail This Printer-Friendly Reprints Save Article By JODI WILGOREN Published: October 27, 2005 CHICAGO, Oct. 27 - Two leading science organizations have denied the Kansas board of education permission to use their copyrighted materials in the state's proposed new science standards because of the standards' critical approach to evolution. The National Academy of Sciences and the National Science Teachers Association said the much-disputed new standards will put the students of Kansas at a competitive disadvantage as they take their place in the world. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/national/27cnd-kansas.html?hpex=1130472000en=8207d57fc0db8ecaei=5094partner=homepage
Re: [PracticalSecurity] Anonymity - great technology but hardly used
At 08:41 PM 10/26/05 -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 23:40 -0500, Travis H. wrote: Many of the anonymity protocols require multiple participants, and thus are subject to what economists call network externalities. The best example I can think of is Microsoft Office file formats. I don't buy MS Office because it's the best software at creating documents, but I have to buy it because the person in HR insists on making our timecards in Excel format. 1) You have told your HR person what a bad idea it is to introduce a dependency on a proprietary file format, right? 2) OpenOffice can read Excel spreadsheets, and I would assume it can save the changes back to them as well. Why don't you send her comma-delimited text, Excel can import it?
crypto on sonet is free, Tyler
At 03:15 PM 6/8/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Well, it's interesting to consider how/if that might be possible. SONET scrambles the payload prior to transmission..adding an additional crypto layer prior to transmission would mean changing the line rate, so probably a no-no. Tyler, one can implement crypto at *arbitrary* line rates though the use of multiple hardware engines and the right mode of operation. If you don't use crypto you are broadcasting, as well as accepting anything from anyone as authentic. Its that simple. Caveat receiver. --- Impeach or frag.
On special objects, and Judy Miller's treason
Its unfortunate that some posters had to be reminded that anyone calling for government-licensed reporters (and religions, as one author included) deserves to have their carbon recycled, because of the treason to the BoR. Tim May used to call government licensed citizens special objects. Search for it. If state violence is used against unlicensed practitioners, then the state controls the practice. Pharmacy provides another example of this --the state controlling what you ingest. It is also sad that no one pointed out that when compelled to go before the Inquisition (aka grand jury) one is not compelled to say anything. So long as the BoR holds. For instance, Dupe Miller could have kept her crudely painted mouth shut, because she could have worried that she would have incriminated herself, eg in not reporting the felony of broadcasting a spook's identity. Or worried about unknown charges that might be brought against her; you never know what prosecutors will dream up. Do not cooperate with fascists, occupying troops, etc. (Speaking of which, are any anonymous offshore betting establishments making odds on Ryan Lackey's lifespan?) --- Impeach or frag.
Private records scattered in the wind (FLA)
We encourage the publication of the (paper) school records which the FLA hurricane reportedly distributed to locals, as part of an effort to show the sheeple how *well* the state guards their secrets. Particularly interested in offspring of state officials, not that their kids are likely go to public schools. [FLA is required to bus lower caste students within counties, to achieve a certain average complexion, so even in Jeb'$ neighborhood the schools suck.] --- Impeach or frag.
big bro in the car
Nuclear Detection: Fixed detectors, portals, and NEST teams wont work for shielded HEU on a national scale; a distributed network of in-vehicle detectors is also necessary to deter nuclear terrorism http://iis-db.stanford.edu/evnts/4249/disarm.pdf Maybe the FCC will require rad detectors in cellphones as part of their 911-location finding / dissident-tracking system? - Go for the head shot, they're wearing puffy vests on the tube, mate.
crypto on sonet is free, Tyler
At 03:15 PM 6/8/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Well, it's interesting to consider how/if that might be possible. SONET scrambles the payload prior to transmission..adding an additional crypto layer prior to transmission would mean changing the line rate, so probably a no-no. Tyler, one can implement crypto at *arbitrary* line rates though the use of multiple hardware engines and the right mode of operation. If you don't use crypto you are broadcasting, as well as accepting anything from anyone as authentic. Its that simple. Caveat receiver. --- Impeach or frag.
Private records scattered in the wind (FLA)
We encourage the publication of the (paper) school records which the FLA hurricane reportedly distributed to locals, as part of an effort to show the sheeple how *well* the state guards their secrets. Particularly interested in offspring of state officials, not that their kids are likely go to public schools. [FLA is required to bus lower caste students within counties, to achieve a certain average complexion, so even in Jeb'$ neighborhood the schools suck.] --- Impeach or frag.
big bro in the car
Nuclear Detection: Fixed detectors, portals, and NEST teams wont work for shielded HEU on a national scale; a distributed network of in-vehicle detectors is also necessary to deter nuclear terrorism http://iis-db.stanford.edu/evnts/4249/disarm.pdf Maybe the FCC will require rad detectors in cellphones as part of their 911-location finding / dissident-tracking system? - Go for the head shot, they're wearing puffy vests on the tube, mate.
On special objects, and Judy Miller's treason
Its unfortunate that some posters had to be reminded that anyone calling for government-licensed reporters (and religions, as one author included) deserves to have their carbon recycled, because of the treason to the BoR. Tim May used to call government licensed citizens special objects. Search for it. If state violence is used against unlicensed practitioners, then the state controls the practice. Pharmacy provides another example of this --the state controlling what you ingest. It is also sad that no one pointed out that when compelled to go before the Inquisition (aka grand jury) one is not compelled to say anything. So long as the BoR holds. For instance, Dupe Miller could have kept her crudely painted mouth shut, because she could have worried that she would have incriminated herself, eg in not reporting the felony of broadcasting a spook's identity. Or worried about unknown charges that might be brought against her; you never know what prosecutors will dream up. Do not cooperate with fascists, occupying troops, etc. (Speaking of which, are any anonymous offshore betting establishments making odds on Ryan Lackey's lifespan?) --- Impeach or frag.
Re: Color Laser Printer Snitch Codes
At 12:24 PM 10/17/05 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Soon we'll find out that toothbrushes are able to determine what I ate for dinner and are regularly sending the info... Soon there will be sensors in urinals that page the DEA..
Judy Miller needing killing
So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class journalists mentioned? She needs a WMD enema. LAS VEGAS (AP) -- New York Times reporter Judith Miller defended her decision to go to jail to protect a source and told a journalism conference Tuesday that reporters need a federal shield law so that others won't face the same sanctions. http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=BreakingstoryId=1104064
Judy Miller needing killing
So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class journalists mentioned? She needs a WMD enema. LAS VEGAS (AP) -- New York Times reporter Judith Miller defended her decision to go to jail to protect a source and told a journalism conference Tuesday that reporters need a federal shield law so that others won't face the same sanctions. http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=BreakingstoryId=1104064
Re: Color Laser Printer Snitch Codes
At 12:24 PM 10/17/05 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Soon we'll find out that toothbrushes are able to determine what I ate for dinner and are regularly sending the info... Soon there will be sensors in urinals that page the DEA..
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All your routers are belong to us
Take da subway, its da bomb LAS VEGAS--Cisco Systems has taken legal action to keep a researcher from further discussing a hack into its router software. The networking giant and Internet Security Systems jointly filed a request Wednesday for a temporary restraining order against Michael Lynn and the organizers of the Black Hat security conference. The motion came after Lynn showed in a presentation how attackers could take over Cisco routers--a problem that he said could bring the Internet to its knees. The filing in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California asks the court to prevent Lynn and Black Hat from further disclosing proprietary information belonging to Cisco and ISS, said John Noh, a Cisco spokesman. It is our belief that the information that Lynn presented at Black Hat this morning is information that was illegally obtained and violated our intellectual property rights, Noh added. Lynn decompiled Cisco's software for his research and by doing so violated the company's rights, Noh said. The legal moves came Wednesday afternoon, only hours after Lynn gave the talk at the Black Hat security conference here. Lynn told the audience that he had quit his job as a researcher at ISS to deliver the presentation, after ISS had decided to pull the session. Notes on the vulnerability and the talk, The Holy Grail: Cisco IOS Shellcode and Remote Execution, were removed from the conference proceedings, leaving a gap in the thick book. Lynn outlined how to run attack code on Cisco's Internetwork Operating System by exploiting a known security flaw in IOS. The software runs on Cisco routers, which make up the infrastructure of the Internet. A widespread attack could badly hurt the Internet, he said. The actual flaw he exploited for his attack was reported to Cisco and has been fixed in recent releases of IOS, experts attending Black Hat said. The ISS research team, including Lynn, on Monday decided to cancel the presentation, Chris Rouland, chief technology officer at ISS, said in an interview. It wasn't ready yet, he said. Lynn resigned from ISS on Wednesday morning and delivered the presentation anyway, Rouland added. Lynn presented ISS research while he was no longer an employee, Rouland said. Adding to the controversy, a source close to the Black Hat organization said that it wasn't ISS and Lynn who wanted to cancel the presentation, but Cisco. Lynn was asked to give a different talk, one on Voice over Internet Protocol security, the source said. But ISS' Rouland said there was never a VoIP presentation and that Wednesday's session was supposed to be cancelled altogether. The research is very important, and the underlying work is important, but we need to work with Cisco to determine the full impact, Rouland said. Previous Next Cisco was involved in pulling the presentation, a source close to the company said. The networking giant had discussions with ISS and they mutually agreed that the research was not yet fully baked, the source said. The demonstration on Wednesday showed an attack on a directly connected router, not a remote attack over the Internet. You could bring down your own router, but not a remote one, Rouland said. One Black Hat attendee said he was impressed with Lynn's presentation. He got a shell really easy and showed a basic outline how to do it. A lot of folks have said this could not be done, and he sat up there and did it, said Darryl Taylor, a security researcher. Shell is a command prompt that gives control over the operating system. Noh said that Lynn's presentation did not disclose information about a new security vulnerability or new security flaws. His research explored possible ways to expand the exploitation of existing vulnerabilities affecting routers, the Cisco spokesman said. Cisco has patched several flaws in IOS over the past year. Last year, the San Jose, Calif., networking giant said that part of the IOS source code had been stolen, raising fears of more security bugs being found. On Wednesday, Noh reiterated the company's usual advice that customers upgrade their software to the latest versions to mitigate vulnerabilities. Following his presentation, Lynn displayed his resume to the audience and announced he was looking for a job. Lynn was not available for comment. Representatives of the Black Hat organization said the researcher was meeting with lawyers.
go for the head shot -they're wearing puffy jackets
Now that the UK got a little feedback for their empire assist, its amusing (in a black, american kinda way) to see them demonstrate their lack of a first amendment. The papers are filled with brits calling for state coercion against their own citizens for their opinions. Naturally, the sheeple will trade liberty for pseudo-security. Which is cooler? A somali surrounded by men with guns, which he figures are mugging him, and who gets shot when he tries to give them his wallet; or a brazilian who gets shot when he thinks he's being mugged by similar anglos with guns? The somali got a few dozen holes, the brazilian less than a dozen, I guess that's the british reluctance to use guns :-) As G Gordon Liddy said, go for the head shot. They're wearing body armor. Or a special vest. Or just a puffy jacket. Whatever. Who knew Orwell was *such* an optimist? Or that the Bill of Rights made such excellent toilet paper? BTW, how do you say enriched in Korean?
FTC bans P2P, anonymity, encryption
The FTC seems to think they can require (by force) the disconnection of zombie PCs. To cut spam. If they assert the right to control what software runs on net-connected machines, what is to stop them from barring any other software? After all, P2P threatens the economy, anonymity and encryption threatens the State. Will no one think of the chiiildren? --- Render unto Caesar an IED
FTC bans P2P, anonymity, encryption
The FTC seems to think they can require (by force) the disconnection of zombie PCs. To cut spam. If they assert the right to control what software runs on net-connected machines, what is to stop them from barring any other software? After all, P2P threatens the economy, anonymity and encryption threatens the State. Will no one think of the chiiildren? --- Render unto Caesar an IED
Practical AP
Declan, tonight I dined with a major spam fighter and he said he had direct confirmation of the fact that the vast bulk of spam is sent by a small number of parties, perhaps 200 at most, and the bulk of that by a core group of about 20. This from Politech. The author goes on to suggest legal action against the 200. Of course, this is fascist, counter to the US's first amendment. A far more moral solution is to fund AP against the spammers, including some due diligence to assure that the future corpses are in fact the ones desired. Consider a penny per spam per person. Consider only a thousandth cooperation-rate by spammees. Bush (et al)'s bounty on Osama et al. would pale in comparison --and actually be acted on, instead of it being a badge of honor for the targeted. That was a *live* one, George.
Lions and tigers and iraqi minutemen
At 11:25 AM 5/23/05 -0700, James A. Donald wrote: While it doubtless would have been better to behead the Saudi monarchy rather than the Iraqi dictatorship, nonetheless American troops seem to be finding an ample supply of Saudis in Iraq. In what imaginary universe? Perhaps you need to be chipped and your blood pressure/ penile turgidity monitored when watching FOX, like the brits will soon have. (Proposed for sex offenders, actually.) Of course getting a stiffie while watching US videogame death qualifies you for a cabinet post... ... A recent pop-Merkin 'News' rag described US psyops which fund 'moderate' moslems. Refurb a mosque here, beam Sesame Street in arabic there, you get props, or so the future-trinitite in DC seem to think. All the more reason for the Colonized to harvest the Collaborators ---they really are Western puppets, knowingly or not. Maybe every Iraqi collaborator needs a US SpecOp team to wipe their ass, like Karzai has. Remember, George in Georgia just missed a *live* grenade. Next time, no hanky to foul the lever, eh? Render unto Caesar.. Orwell was an optimist
[Dissidents Seeking Anonymous Web Solutions?]
At 03:03 PM 5/17/05 -0700, cypherpunk wrote: [1]DocMurphy asks: I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes. Many have in-home Internet access, but think it too risky to participate in pro-freedom activities on home PCs. (Could be a lot of groups in the US.) The best way to interactively surf anonymously is to find an unsecured WiFi net and kick back. Use a forged MAC, and watch your driving habits. The walls have eyes. Stego is ok if the site is word of mouth (no DNS, no port 80) anyway, kind of a secret knock to get in the speakeasy. But humans get compromised and the B34ST logs the site's traffic. Stego is fine for placing an order with a dissident vendor for a few drams, but a dissident wanting mass meme infection needs to anonymously broadcast, and to everyone. That SMS/ Sprint hack recently posted strikes me as appealing... (And we don't need no ex-navy dolphin to jack the bandwidth...) -- Three minutes. This is it - ground zero. Would you like to say a few words to mark the occasion? Narrator: ...i... ann... iinn... ff... nnyin... Narrator: [Voice over] With a gun barrel between your teeth, you speak only in vowels. [Tyler removes the gun from the Narrator's mouth] Narrator: I can't think of anything. Narrator: [Voice over] For a second I totally forgot about Tyler's whole controlled demolition thing and I wonder how clean that gun is.
Lions and tigers and iraqi minutemen
At 11:25 AM 5/23/05 -0700, James A. Donald wrote: While it doubtless would have been better to behead the Saudi monarchy rather than the Iraqi dictatorship, nonetheless American troops seem to be finding an ample supply of Saudis in Iraq. In what imaginary universe? Perhaps you need to be chipped and your blood pressure/ penile turgidity monitored when watching FOX, like the brits will soon have. (Proposed for sex offenders, actually.) Of course getting a stiffie while watching US videogame death qualifies you for a cabinet post... A recent pop-Merkin 'News' rag described US psyops which fund 'moderate' moslems. Refurb a mosque here, beam Sesame Street in arabic there, you get props, or so the future-trinitite in DC seem to think. All the more reason for the Colonized to harvest the Collaborators ---they really are Western puppets, knowingly or not. Maybe every Iraqi collaborator needs a US SpecOp team to wipe their ass, like Karzai has. Remember, George in Georgia just missed a *live* grenade. Next time, no hanky to foul the lever, eh? Render unto Caesar.. Orwell was an optimist
[Dissidents Seeking Anonymous Web Solutions?]
At 03:03 PM 5/17/05 -0700, cypherpunk wrote: [1]DocMurphy asks: I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes. Many have in-home Internet access, but think it too risky to participate in pro-freedom activities on home PCs. (Could be a lot of groups in the US.) The best way to interactively surf anonymously is to find an unsecured WiFi net and kick back. Use a forged MAC, and watch your driving habits. The walls have eyes. Stego is ok if the site is word of mouth (no DNS, no port 80) anyway, kind of a secret knock to get in the speakeasy. But humans get compromised and the B34ST logs the site's traffic. Stego is fine for placing an order with a dissident vendor for a few drams, but a dissident wanting mass meme infection needs to anonymously broadcast, and to everyone. That SMS/ Sprint hack recently posted strikes me as appealing... (And we don't need no ex-navy dolphin to jack the bandwidth...) -- Three minutes. This is it - ground zero. Would you like to say a few words to mark the occasion? Narrator: ...i... ann... iinn... ff... nnyin... Narrator: [Voice over] With a gun barrel between your teeth, you speak only in vowels. [Tyler removes the gun from the Narrator's mouth] Narrator: I can't think of anything. Narrator: [Voice over] For a second I totally forgot about Tyler's whole controlled demolition thing and I wonder how clean that gun is.
Re: Len Adleman (of R,S, and A):
At 02:45 PM 5/17/05 -0700, cypherpunk wrote: Iraq war (a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, and many people took 9/11 personally). Please explain what Bush's invasion of a soverign nation had to do with the Saudi 9/11 Theatre? (Sorry to offend the 'Merkins who can't distinguish one ay-rab from another)
Re: Len Adleman (of R,S, and A):
At 02:45 PM 5/17/05 -0700, cypherpunk wrote: Iraq war (a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, and many people took 9/11 personally). Please explain what Bush's invasion of a soverign nation had to do with the Saudi 9/11 Theatre? (Sorry to offend the 'Merkins who can't distinguish one ay-rab from another)
Re: Pi: Less Random Than We Thought
At 03:55 PM 5/6/05 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Yes, but only provided the universe lasts long enough for those digits to be computed! -TD Actually, a few years ago someone discovered an algorithm for the Nth (hex) digit of Pi which doesn't require computing all the previous digits. Mind blowing.
Twelve Monkeys
So, if you were a Handler, would you try to score some H5N1 asian flu for NYC, or would you convince a pre-symptomatic Angolan to fly into Rome? Just curious.
Reading every ones g-mail
At 10:17 AM 4/1/05 -0800, Sarad AV wrote: hi, Maybe it was just a bot parsing the contents of the mail. Cannot say for sure. Reading every ones g-mail doesn't appear to be practical. Whoah, are you clueless. Not only reading, but indexing, and indexing all your correspondants. Can you spell traffic analysis ?
Re: [silk] Google Targeted ads - gmail (fwd from rishab@dxm.org)
At 11:26 AM 4/1/05 -0800, cypherpunk wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 10:57 AM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now here's your one stop shop for evil. A position for Google minister for propaganda is about to be posted, so I hear. Let's get this straight. It's not evil if people are voluntarily agreeing to it! Maybe you're being facetious but you undermine the significance of true evil by applying the word to voluntary relationships. Cypherpunks should support noncoercive information relationships because they give users the option to protect their own privacy. Nobody is forced to use Google, and technology exists to allow it to be used in a privacy protecting way. True evil would be a system which takes away your options and forces you to interact in a way that prevents you from protecting yourself. Google is 180 degrees removed from such an approach. 1. The author is entirely, c'punkly correct. Trading your DNA for a hamburger is entirely voluntary, consensual, ergo moral. That Joe Sixpack is a sheep with her butt in the air is not relevant. Temple Grandin (a future Google BOD member) has designed really comfy slaughterhouses. 2. If you don't encrypt, you broadcast. End of story.
mu-metal Altoids
At 07:54 PM 4/3/05 -0500, Riad S. Wahby wrote: Thomas Shaddack shaddack@ns.arachne.cz wrote: Putting the tag into an enclosure made of a feromagnetic material helps, though. Altoids can proved to be a pretty effective shielding. Clearly we need mu-metal Altoids tins. Mu-metal is expensive and I've heard that cold-working it reduces its permeability. The idea of ultracheap (ie, disposable) shields is a Good Thing, and better than Enemy of the State's Brin's potato-chip bag elevator stunt. --- ...ordinary household products (if one were so inclined)... -TD peroxide + nail polish + sulphuric drain cleaner = TATP
Your epapers, please?
At 10:08 PM 3/31/05 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: government plan to insert remotely readable chips in American passports, calling the chips [2]homing devices for high-tech muggers, So the market for faraday-cages for your passport will grow to equilibrium. A cage will cost less than a buck in parts, easily affordable by the clueful. The damage to the clueless will quickly be the best advertising for the product. Since we have been wearing conductive mesh burkhas for some time, the only inconvenience will be for the terahertz voyeurs employed by the TSA.
Your epapers, please?
At 10:08 PM 3/31/05 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: government plan to insert remotely readable chips in American passports, calling the chips [2]homing devices for high-tech muggers, So the market for faraday-cages for your passport will grow to equilibrium. A cage will cost less than a buck in parts, easily affordable by the clueful. The damage to the clueless will quickly be the best advertising for the product. Since we have been wearing conductive mesh burkhas for some time, the only inconvenience will be for the terahertz voyeurs employed by the TSA.
Re: AP For Starvation Judge
It would be interesting socially if the vegetable in question had fried her brain with her choice of unlicensed pharmaceuticals, instead of her choice of self-starvation (leading to cardiac failure, leading to joining the vegetable kingdom). Would Jeb be trying to adopt a coke-stroke negro? It would also be interesting if those who want to keep her metabolizing had to pay for it, or do it themselves, instead of requiring the taxpayers to absorb the cost. Which is the real libertarian question, once you realize no one is coercing anyone, since the vegetable is less sentient than the cows we eat or chimps we experiment upon. Instead, the xians show their hand, that it is not the soul (consciousness) they care about, and the quality of its experience, just heartbeats. Someone should show them a chick's heart beating in a petri dish. But of course they are not deterred by reality. Perhaps they are afraid that their own emptiness will be exposed if life be judged by more than the ability to metabolize. It would be very cool karma if the Pope were to be vegetative but indefinately prolongable (thanks of course to the fruits of the scientific method which is the antiPope). One imagines this will eventually happen. Or are there rules to replace a useless Pope? Does Alexander Haig get to be interim Pope? In lieu of less messy and hard to arrange (thanks to fascism) processes (eg, an overdose), those piloting their own ships end up sucking the barrel of a .45, or whatever caliber is convenient. Rarely do we try to improve the world in the process, by taking deserving others with us, probably out of overwhelming self-obsession at such times. (Though the fellow who drove a tanker into the Capitol in Sacramento comes to mind.) At least we don't try to stop trains with our bodies (we would sit in our SUVs on the tracks anyway), and rarely jump off overpasses into traffic, which inconveniences many, compared to the ballistic route. - Get your laws off my body
Re: WiFi Launcher?
t 03:06 PM 3/25/05 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: I noticed you did a little editing! Sigh. Few can stand in the light for very long, save the various beautiful women that clamor to spread my DNA... Your barber can spread more of your DNA. Your female can help you *copy* your DNA, but only about half of it, and you don't get to chose which half. Someone once said, Cypherpunks write code. Yes but I'd amend this to say, Cypherpunks in the process of becoming economically successful probably don't have time to write code but others can sure feel free to try... Why not sketch a script that can? That's not hard work, and contributes more than the idea itself (which is a good idea BTW). : Sounds possible to me. the only problem might be the need for : authentication, Can't be any authentication for obvious reasons. These days one has to act very quickly in order to create something original. The question is, will a TLA do it first and post it, along with a TINY little ID tag? If its an open-source tool, who gives a rodent's arse if a TLA wrote it? After all, you can never be sure that a TLA *hasn't* written (or contributed) to anything. Think critical --Agrammatical Marketoids
Re: AP For Starvation Judge
It would be interesting socially if the vegetable in question had fried her brain with her choice of unlicensed pharmaceuticals, instead of her choice of self-starvation (leading to cardiac failure, leading to joining the vegetable kingdom). Would Jeb be trying to adopt a coke-stroke negro? It would also be interesting if those who want to keep her metabolizing had to pay for it, or do it themselves, instead of requiring the taxpayers to absorb the cost. Which is the real libertarian question, once you realize no one is coercing anyone, since the vegetable is less sentient than the cows we eat or chimps we experiment upon. Instead, the xians show their hand, that it is not the soul (consciousness) they care about, and the quality of its experience, just heartbeats. Someone should show them a chick's heart beating in a petri dish. But of course they are not deterred by reality. Perhaps they are afraid that their own emptiness will be exposed if life be judged by more than the ability to metabolize. It would be very cool karma if the Pope were to be vegetative but indefinately prolongable (thanks of course to the fruits of the scientific method which is the antiPope). One imagines this will eventually happen. Or are there rules to replace a useless Pope? Does Alexander Haig get to be interim Pope? In lieu of less messy and hard to arrange (thanks to fascism) processes (eg, an overdose), those piloting their own ships end up sucking the barrel of a .45, or whatever caliber is convenient. Rarely do we try to improve the world in the process, by taking deserving others with us, probably out of overwhelming self-obsession at such times. (Though the fellow who drove a tanker into the Capitol in Sacramento comes to mind.) At least we don't try to stop trains with our bodies (we would sit in our SUVs on the tracks anyway), and rarely jump off overpasses into traffic, which inconveniences many, compared to the ballistic route. - Get your laws off my body
Re: WiFi Launcher?
t 03:06 PM 3/25/05 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: I noticed you did a little editing! Sigh. Few can stand in the light for very long, save the various beautiful women that clamor to spread my DNA... Your barber can spread more of your DNA. Your female can help you *copy* your DNA, but only about half of it, and you don't get to chose which half. Someone once said, Cypherpunks write code. Yes but I'd amend this to say, Cypherpunks in the process of becoming economically successful probably don't have time to write code but others can sure feel free to try... Why not sketch a script that can? That's not hard work, and contributes more than the idea itself (which is a good idea BTW). : Sounds possible to me. the only problem might be the need for : authentication, Can't be any authentication for obvious reasons. These days one has to act very quickly in order to create something original. The question is, will a TLA do it first and post it, along with a TINY little ID tag? If its an open-source tool, who gives a rodent's arse if a TLA wrote it? After all, you can never be sure that a TLA *hasn't* written (or contributed) to anything. Think critical --Agrammatical Marketoids
Re: FW: on FPGAs vs ASICs
At 05:44 PM 3/20/05 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: What I suspect is that there's already some crypto net processors out there, though they may be classified, or the commercial equivalent (ie, I assume there are 'classified' catalogs from companies like General Dynamics that normal clients never see). I've programmed (well, microcoded) the Intel IXA family. Some variants of that family can do line-rate AES. They can handle insane line rates, thanks to hardware everything and an array of hyperthreaded RISCs. Not at all classified. At 09:49 AM 3/21/05 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: One of the interesting twists of FPGAs is that you can optimize the circuit to the actual data being processed. For example, in DES keysearch you could hardwire into the circuit some of the subkey bits (which were determined by, say, high order key bits you rarely changed), thus simplifying the circuit. When those bits changed, you re-wrote the circuilt. Its quite possible that reconfigurability is part of the future. Your N-way x86 die will come with a few hundred thou reconfigurable gates, which you'll reconfigure to do your Photoshop or MPEG or rendering or speech recognition or modular exponentiation tasks. Obviously this is a big change and there's a lot of software support required (from OS to app) to make it happen. Also there are fascinating tech problems in coupling the reconfig hardware to high bandwidth data flows, required to keep it busy. But the benefits are substantial. Tangentially, I should note that there are modes of encryption which can be scaled infinitely with parallel hardware; they use interleaved blocks so each chip sees every Nth block of the real stream. So high clock rates are not required to crypt. It seems that hashing can be parallelized that way too, run a hash-chip on every Nth bit, and hash those partial results. Both ends have to agree on the N-way division (as with the infinitely scalable crypto) but that's all. With regular hashing (and attacks thereof that require grinding out a lot of hashes in order to find a collision, to go back to the original topic) single-chip parallel hardware hacks could speed things up, but (given that modern hashes are designed for CPUs, like AES) I don't ever expect to see DESCrack like gains there. And while TD keeps alluding to the DESCrack suitcase, I'll point out that a GSM Cracker could fit in your carry-on luggage nowadays. Every 'embassy' ought to have one :-)
on FPGAs vs ASICs
Tyler, Riad, etc: FPGAs are used in telecom because the volumes do not support an ASIC run. Riad doesn't seem to appreciate this. He does understand that an ASIC is more efficient because its gates are used only for 1 computation, rather than most (FPGA) gates being used for reconfigurability ---useful if you can't afford an ASIC run (a million bucks a mask...) or if algorithms get tweaked (eg you release before the Spec comes out, or you are shooting for time-to-market). Clockwise an FPGA wastes time in extra wire routing although since an FPGA may be made in state of the art processes, and your ASIC may not, its a complex tradeoff. (Albeit some circuit topologies work very well on FPGAs) So for the Cypherpunk wanting hardware (vs cluster) acceleration, FPGAs are the way to go. For TLAs, you prototype in FPGAs of course, and then make some chips in your private fab. (Same for Broadcom, etc.) For someone making 10,000 routers, you use FPGAs. DESCrack was solving a problem for which the x86 is not very efficient at computing --all the sub-byte bit-diddling-- and hardware is very efficient (by design in DES, after all).
on FPGAs vs ASICs
Tyler, Riad, etc: FPGAs are used in telecom because the volumes do not support an ASIC run. Riad doesn't seem to appreciate this. He does understand that an ASIC is more efficient because its gates are used only for 1 computation, rather than most (FPGA) gates being used for reconfigurability ---useful if you can't afford an ASIC run (a million bucks a mask...) or if algorithms get tweaked (eg you release before the Spec comes out, or you are shooting for time-to-market). Clockwise an FPGA wastes time in extra wire routing although since an FPGA may be made in state of the art processes, and your ASIC may not, its a complex tradeoff. (Albeit some circuit topologies work very well on FPGAs) So for the Cypherpunk wanting hardware (vs cluster) acceleration, FPGAs are the way to go. For TLAs, you prototype in FPGAs of course, and then make some chips in your private fab. (Same for Broadcom, etc.) For someone making 10,000 routers, you use FPGAs. DESCrack was solving a problem for which the x86 is not very efficient at computing --all the sub-byte bit-diddling-- and hardware is very efficient (by design in DES, after all).
Re: SHA1 broken?
At 09:23 PM 2/19/05 +, Dave Howe wrote: I am unaware of any massive improvement (certainly to the scale of the comparable improvement in CPUs) in FPGAs, and the ones I looked at a a few days ago while researching this question seemed to have pretty FPGAs scale with tech the same as CPUs, however CPUs contain a lot more design info (complexity). But FPGAs since '98 have gotten denser (Moore's observation), pioneering Cu wiring, smaller features, etc.
Re: What is a cypherpunk?
A cypherpunk is one who is amused at the phrase illicit Iraqi passports. Given that the government of .iq has been replaced by a conquerer's puppet goverment, who exactly has authority to issue passports there? And why does this belief about the 1-to-1-ness of passports to meat puppets or other identities fnord persist? A CP is not an anarchist; and anarchists are ill defined by current authors, since the word merely means no head, rather than no rules, as Herr May frequently reminded. (In fact, the rules would de facto be set by the local gangster, rather than a DC based gang claiming to be the head. A better form is libertarian archy, but that is perhaps another thread.) A CP, removing arguable claims about political idealogy, is one who understands the potential effects of certain techs on societies, for good or bad. And is not, like a good sci fi writer, afraid to consider the consequences. And, ideally, a CP is one who can write code, and does so, code that might be useful for free sentients, not even necessarily free (in the beer sense) code. (Albeit 'tis hard to write useful code in the uninspectable sense of not-free, and inspectability facilitates beer-free copying ) But this is an ideal, and perhaps three meanings of free in one rant is too many for most readers. At 12:04 PM 2/7/05 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: While officials in Baghdad and Washington berate Iraq's neighbours for failing to block insurgency movements across their borders, one of the most dangerous security lapses thrives in Baghdad's heart - a trade in illicit Iraqi passports.
Re: What is a cypherpunk?
At 10:38 PM 2/9/05 -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 09:09 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: There is nothing stopping you from writing your own operating system, so Linus did. Linus Torvalds didn't write the GNU OS. He wrote the Linux kernel, which when added to the rest of the existing GNU OS, written by Richard Stallman among others, allowed a completely free operating system. Please don't continue to spread the misconception that Linus Torvalds wrote the entire (GNU) operating system. Who gives a fuck? RMS was fermenting in his own philosophical stew, to put it politely. The shame is that BSD didn't explode like L*nux did, and that all that work had to be re-done, and with a nasty ATT flavor to boot (no pun intended).
Re: What is a cypherpunk?
At 10:38 PM 2/9/05 -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 09:09 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: There is nothing stopping you from writing your own operating system, so Linus did. Linus Torvalds didn't write the GNU OS. He wrote the Linux kernel, which when added to the rest of the existing GNU OS, written by Richard Stallman among others, allowed a completely free operating system. Please don't continue to spread the misconception that Linus Torvalds wrote the entire (GNU) operating system. Who gives a fuck? RMS was fermenting in his own philosophical stew, to put it politely. The shame is that BSD didn't explode like L*nux did, and that all that work had to be re-done, and with a nasty ATT flavor to boot (no pun intended).
Re: What is a cypherpunk?
A cypherpunk is one who is amused at the phrase illicit Iraqi passports. Given that the government of .iq has been replaced by a conquerer's puppet goverment, who exactly has authority to issue passports there? And why does this belief about the 1-to-1-ness of passports to meat puppets or other identities fnord persist? A CP is not an anarchist; and anarchists are ill defined by current authors, since the word merely means no head, rather than no rules, as Herr May frequently reminded. (In fact, the rules would de facto be set by the local gangster, rather than a DC based gang claiming to be the head. A better form is libertarian archy, but that is perhaps another thread.) A CP, removing arguable claims about political idealogy, is one who understands the potential effects of certain techs on societies, for good or bad. And is not, like a good sci fi writer, afraid to consider the consequences. And, ideally, a CP is one who can write code, and does so, code that might be useful for free sentients, not even necessarily free (in the beer sense) code. (Albeit 'tis hard to write useful code in the uninspectable sense of not-free, and inspectability facilitates beer-free copying ) But this is an ideal, and perhaps three meanings of free in one rant is too many for most readers. At 12:04 PM 2/7/05 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: While officials in Baghdad and Washington berate Iraq's neighbours for failing to block insurgency movements across their borders, one of the most dangerous security lapses thrives in Baghdad's heart - a trade in illicit Iraqi passports.
LA Times on brinworld, complete with nothing to hide quote
Article Published: Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 7:14:24 PM PST Who's got an eye on you? Secret cameras are everywhere By Andrea Cavanaugh, Staff Writer Smile! If you're making your way around Los Angeles -- or any metropolitan area in America these days -- there's a good chance your movements are being recorded by a surveillance camera. Once limited mostly to banks and convenience stores, the beady eye of the surveillance camera has appeared nearly everywhere over the past decade. Cheaper surveillance systems and heightened fears of terrorist attacks have created a world that is increasingly captured on camera. If you're outside doing anything, you're being recorded 50 percent of the time, said Paul Ramos, vice president of sales and marketing for Fairfax Electronics, a Los Angeles company that sells security systems. If you're shopping or attending an event, it goes up to 90 percent. Yes, Big Brother is there, and Big Brother is strong. Perched on rooftops and under eaves, cameras discreetly rake shopping centers, stadiums, office buildings and parking lots. Police say surveillance cameras, whether installed by businesses, homeowners or local governments, act as a powerful law-enforcement tool and crime deterrent. Law-abiding people have nothing to worry about, said Lt. Paul Vernon of the Los Angeles Police Department. When people start talking about Big Brother, I say, 'I've got nothing to hide.' Those cameras aren't looking into my home, and if they were, it would be pretty boring. Although law-enforcement agencies hail the technology as a labor-saving device that allows them to patrol much larger areas with fewer sets of eyes, many civil libertarians view surveillance cameras as a creeping erosion of privacy rights. How would you like to be followed around by a slimy guy in a raincoat who records everything you do? It's a technological version of a slimy guy in a raincoat, said privacy expert Lauren Weinstein, who is producing a radio series about technology's impact on society. The difference is, you can't see it, you don't know what it's pointed at, or how long the images are going to be stored. The mostly unregulated recording takes place with a tacit nod from the U.S. Supreme Court, which has indicated again and again that people have no reasonable expectation of privacy in public places. Government agencies across the United States are installing cameras in as many public areas as possible, but they are still behind the curve compared with European cities, Ramos said. In Los Angeles, surveillance devices increasingly are used by government to patrol public places. Several recently installed cameras along Hollywood Boulevard scan stretches popular with tourists and criminals alike. And, buoyed by the success of a surveillance program at crime-plagued MacArthur Park west of downtown, the LAPD recently unveiled a camera system capable of scanning thousands of license plates per hour and employing controversial facial-recognition software to pinpoint known
Re: Auto-HERF: Car Chase Tech That's Really Hot
At 06:41 PM 2/4/05 -0800, Steve Schear wrote: At 10:15 AM 2/4/2005, R.A. Hettinga wrote: The beautiful part of using the (microwave) energy is that it leaves the suspect in control of the car, he said. He can steer, he can brake, he just can't accelerate. Sorry Charlie, but I think newer vehicles are moving to fly-by-wire steering, especially hybrids that don't have an internal combustion engine running all the time so they can't easily use traditional hydraulic servo steering. Also amusing will be the congealed lenses of bystanders, dead pacemaker wearers, fried business computers, in addition to the accidents caused by other disabled cars. But the cops will get their man, and the rest is collateral damage, put it on the perp's ticket. Besides, the ECU is shielded pretty well by the car metal and the unit itself is shielded from the electrical ignition noise. But someone needs to explain that to this executive who fancies himself an inventor and can't wait to suckle Caesar's teat, selling cyber terrorist gizmos to the man. Personally I only use the magnetron horn (concealed in my rooftop fiberglass luggage holder) on inconsiderate cell-phone-using drivers. Better than jamming, because they get to kiss their RF front end goodbye, permenantly. So it helps everyone for several days, *and* sells new handsets, helping the economy. Works on pig radios too. Also works on the thumpa-thumpa drivers, and when I turn the power up I find that Chihauha's skulls are not meant to take internal pressure; a steam explosion is pretty messy, and fuzzy dice don't really clean the insides of windshields terribly well.
Re: Auto-HERF: Car Chase Tech That's Really Hot
At 06:41 PM 2/4/05 -0800, Steve Schear wrote: At 10:15 AM 2/4/2005, R.A. Hettinga wrote: The beautiful part of using the (microwave) energy is that it leaves the suspect in control of the car, he said. He can steer, he can brake, he just can't accelerate. Sorry Charlie, but I think newer vehicles are moving to fly-by-wire steering, especially hybrids that don't have an internal combustion engine running all the time so they can't easily use traditional hydraulic servo steering. Also amusing will be the congealed lenses of bystanders, dead pacemaker wearers, fried business computers, in addition to the accidents caused by other disabled cars. But the cops will get their man, and the rest is collateral damage, put it on the perp's ticket. Besides, the ECU is shielded pretty well by the car metal and the unit itself is shielded from the electrical ignition noise. But someone needs to explain that to this executive who fancies himself an inventor and can't wait to suckle Caesar's teat, selling cyber terrorist gizmos to the man. Personally I only use the magnetron horn (concealed in my rooftop fiberglass luggage holder) on inconsiderate cell-phone-using drivers. Better than jamming, because they get to kiss their RF front end goodbye, permenantly. So it helps everyone for several days, *and* sells new handsets, helping the economy. Works on pig radios too. Also works on the thumpa-thumpa drivers, and when I turn the power up I find that Chihauha's skulls are not meant to take internal pressure; a steam explosion is pretty messy, and fuzzy dice don't really clean the insides of windshields terribly well.
Re: MPAA files new film-swapping suits
At 04:41 PM 1/28/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: Not really. The P2P assm^H^H^H^H architects are reissuing new systems with holes patched reactively. There's no reason for a P2P system designed in 1996 to be water-tight to any threat model of 2010. (Strangely enough, they had IP nazis and lawyers back then, too). I was surprised to see that the EFF listed ADCs as endangered tech. Because the hollywood nazis regard (and damn rightly so) the analog hole as real. That a fairly stead organization as EFF would regard the desparate death-sounds of hollywood as a serious threat to such basic tech was astounding. I've had cross-compiled code (for the MMC2107) identified as a virus (and therefore erased) by an antivirus program on a PC. This only lost an hour or two of work. Imagine that your medical measurements, or kids' performances, happen to match an ADC's copy protection codes. Imagine that all your silicon belongs to us, us=hollywood=congress. Imagine that all your printing presses belong to the State, for the protection of the commercial merde. -- Be neither perpetrator, bystander, nor victim ---a commentator on the 60th anniversary of Auswitz, coming to a goverment center near you - Uranium --the Great Equalizer
Re: Cpunk Sighting
At 04:12 PM 1/21/05 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: John Young, Cryptome strikes again. NPR is running a story on all of the sensitive information available. Funny shit! LATimes ran something too! And even included a link to the mental-jihadist, terrorist-du-coeur, amateur pan-geo-opticon-astronomer who freely admits having studied what hold buildings (and the thugs that tax them) up, as well as once being an operative of the largest, most WMD'd military ever. Zeus bless his Promethian soul. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-briefs21jan21,1,5352367.story January 21, 2005 IN BRIEF / CANADA Many Barred From U.S. Because of Security Lists From Times Wire Reports Dozens of people from Canada have been turned back at the U.S. border or prevented from boarding U.S.-bound planes because their names are on the American no-fly list or a State Department list of possible terrorists, documents show. The incidents are detailed in daily briefs from the Homeland Security Department. They contain no classified information. A department spokesman confirmed that the memos, posted at http://cryptome.org , were legitimate.
crypto, science, and popular writing
At 03:23 PM 1/20/05 +, Justin wrote: How could they possibly get clue? Scientists don't want to write pop-sci articles for a living. It's impossible to condense most current research down to digestible kernels that the masses can understand. SciAm should close down, requiring those who care about science to learn enough about it to read science journals. That is untrue. In fact, RSA was introduced to the wider audience via Sci Am IIRC. Professors who can teach a QM course well in a semester are rare enough. I doubt any one of them could write a 5000 word article on quantum entanglement that would be intelligible to the average cretinous American who wants to seem smart by reading Sci-Am. If they want to be smart, they can start by picking up an undergrad-level book on QM. But that requires much effort to read, unlike a glossy 5000 word article. I disagree. I think some here --even you-- could write such an article. Simply state entanglement as a given, much like gravity or maxwell's electromagnetics, and then explain how its useful. *Why* and *how* the givens are correct is not necessary, perhaps not even known. (After all, all physics does bottom out with phenomenology). The same is true for explaining symmetric crypto, hasing, or PK ---just assume a hard function, or a one way trap door function, ignoring avalanche or the number theory behind it, and go to applications immediately. That Sci Am has gotten lefty and soft is regrettable, but don't think this means that crypto and QM apps can't be explained to your grandmother.
Re: Cpunk Sighting
At 04:12 PM 1/21/05 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: John Young, Cryptome strikes again. NPR is running a story on all of the sensitive information available. Funny shit! LATimes ran something too! And even included a link to the mental-jihadist, terrorist-du-coeur, amateur pan-geo-opticon-astronomer who freely admits having studied what hold buildings (and the thugs that tax them) up, as well as once being an operative of the largest, most WMD'd military ever. Zeus bless his Promethian soul. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-briefs21jan21,1,5352367.story January 21, 2005 IN BRIEF / CANADA Many Barred From U.S. Because of Security Lists From Times Wire Reports Dozens of people from Canada have been turned back at the U.S. border or prevented from boarding U.S.-bound planes because their names are on the American no-fly list or a State Department list of possible terrorists, documents show. The incidents are detailed in daily briefs from the Homeland Security Department. They contain no classified information. A department spokesman confirmed that the memos, posted at http://cryptome.org , were legitimate.
crypto, science, and popular writing
At 03:23 PM 1/20/05 +, Justin wrote: How could they possibly get clue? Scientists don't want to write pop-sci articles for a living. It's impossible to condense most current research down to digestible kernels that the masses can understand. SciAm should close down, requiring those who care about science to learn enough about it to read science journals. That is untrue. In fact, RSA was introduced to the wider audience via Sci Am IIRC. Professors who can teach a QM course well in a semester are rare enough. I doubt any one of them could write a 5000 word article on quantum entanglement that would be intelligible to the average cretinous American who wants to seem smart by reading Sci-Am. If they want to be smart, they can start by picking up an undergrad-level book on QM. But that requires much effort to read, unlike a glossy 5000 word article. I disagree. I think some here --even you-- could write such an article. Simply state entanglement as a given, much like gravity or maxwell's electromagnetics, and then explain how its useful. *Why* and *how* the givens are correct is not necessary, perhaps not even known. (After all, all physics does bottom out with phenomenology). The same is true for explaining symmetric crypto, hasing, or PK ---just assume a hard function, or a one way trap door function, ignoring avalanche or the number theory behind it, and go to applications immediately. That Sci Am has gotten lefty and soft is regrettable, but don't think this means that crypto and QM apps can't be explained to your grandmother.
RE: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)
At 10:07 AM 1/14/05 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: It would take some chutzpa, but tacking onto a cops car would send a message Too easy. 5 points for adding to cop's personal car 10 points for adding to cop's spouse's personal car 20 points for adding to cop's mistress' personal car Not sure about point assignments for adding to cop's offspring's car adding to cop's offspring's teacher's car
Re: US slaps on the wardriver-busting paint
At 09:35 AM 1/14/05 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: It only remains for us to say that DefendAir costs a cool $69 per gallon (US gallon, presumably). How much is the TV tax in the UK? How long to pay off the costs of paint to hide one's IF oscillator from the White Vans? Surprising that the Register didn't pick up on this. The Al foil over the windows and screen over the appliance-vents might be telling. Otherwise its a waste of paint. And haven't these paint-scammers heard of foil-backed insulation?
Re: Feral Cities
At 10:32 AM 1/16/05 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: Terrorists, as we discovered in Afghanistan, tend to piss people off. They need a government that is strong enough to intimidate the locals to refrain from killing them. Since when did a few remote Al Q boot camps piss people off? Religion-based initiation of force pisses people off, just as the Xian right will discover should it start beating women in the streets. Don't confuse the govt (eg Taliban, a faith-based organization) with NGOs which may attract cruise missiles, but not hostility from the populace, who probably enjoyed the extra commerce.
RE: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)
At 10:07 AM 1/14/05 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: It would take some chutzpa, but tacking onto a cops car would send a message Too easy. 5 points for adding to cop's personal car 10 points for adding to cop's spouse's personal car 20 points for adding to cop's mistress' personal car Not sure about point assignments for adding to cop's offspring's car adding to cop's offspring's teacher's car
Re: US slaps on the wardriver-busting paint
At 09:35 AM 1/14/05 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: It only remains for us to say that DefendAir costs a cool $69 per gallon (US gallon, presumably). How much is the TV tax in the UK? How long to pay off the costs of paint to hide one's IF oscillator from the White Vans? Surprising that the Register didn't pick up on this. The Al foil over the windows and screen over the appliance-vents might be telling. Otherwise its a waste of paint. And haven't these paint-scammers heard of foil-backed insulation?
Re: Tasers for Cops Not You
At 01:20 PM 1/8/05 -0800, John Young wrote: However, Taser claims the civilian version is effective only to 15 feet while the LE version will explose a heart at 20 feet. And, Taser says accidental deaths caused by the shock would have happened to those sick persons anyway. Well, yes, homicidal cops say the perps were begging for it, learning such talk from the president and up to the one who has fun with joy toy tsunamis. John: A taser is 50 KV and microamps. Not fun but it doesn't cause fibrillation. (Incoherent cardiac muscle contraction - no pulse.) I now work for a company that makes defibrillators. It takes a few 10s of Joules through the heart to fibrillate, typically 100-200 J for an adult, during a certain critical window during the sinus rhythm. Our gizmos discharge ~200 uF at up to 2 KV to defibrillate a fibrillating heart, which will also fibrillate if administered to a healthy heart at the wrong time, as I said. That's up to 40 amps. (Through the pads a chest is 20-200 ohms, typically 50.) Without a defibrillator the person is dead, CPR or not. That's the science. As far as pigs wanting slaves/peasants/citizens to be unarmed, well, agree. As far as choke holds on negroes, excessive force on cocaine-stimulated citizens, etc goes, I have nothing to bear on this. As far as banning lethal and nonlethal weapons for use by all but state minions, we agree. When tasers, mace, body armor, .50 cal or lesser rifles are outlawed, well, you know the rest. (Of course mace is best applied with q-tips to the eyes of sitting protesters. And the mercenaries in Iraq do fine with pillowcases and 12V batteries.) Though heavens fall, let justice be done.
Re: [IP] The DNA round-up on Cape Cod (fwd from dave@farber.net
The Beast doesn't know who licked the stamp. A fiducial sample is what they want. In Calif, they could merely arrest you for a bogus charge to have the right to sample your families DNA as carried by you. Schwarzenegger is not Austrian accidentally. GATTACA was optimistic. At 06:02 PM 1/10/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: I live in the town of Truro on Cape Cod about 4 or 5 months out of the year. This past week, the Truro has been on the national news because the local police are attempting to obtain DNA samples of all men of the town in order to solve a three-year old murder case. Here are a couple of the articles that give the details of what is going on in this DNA round-up: To Try to Net Killer, Police Ask a Small Town's Men for DNA http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/10/national/10cape.html Truro abuzz over 'swab' DNA testing http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/truroabuzz7.htm I am headed back to my Truro house later this week. If I am approached by the police to provide a DNA sample for their round-up of Truro males, I am planning to refuse. However, I just realized that I already gave a DNA sample to the Town of Truro recently. I paid my property tax bill to the Truro tax collectors office two weeks ago. My DNA is on the tax payment envelope that I licked. Envelopes are apparently a good source of DNA material according to this article: DNA on Envelope Reopens Decades-old Murder Case http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_052103_dnaarrest.html Richard M. Smith http://www.ComputerBytesMan.com -- End of Forwarded Message - You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ - End forwarded message - -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
expectation of privacy
At 09:01 PM 1/12/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: It's time to blow the lid off this no expectation of privacy in public places argument that judges and law enforcement now spout out like demented parrots in so many situations. A court refused to hear the case of a man accused of owning unlicensed pharmaceuticals when a pig entered a locked loo. The loo was part of a gas station; the attendant called the pigs. A prostitute was in there too, with him, and the area rife with folks of that profession, FWIW, which is nothing. But the court held reduced expectation of privacy in a public loo. One imagines much fun with anonymous calls when state employees are in such places, but this does not temper our disgust, or desire for karma with extreme prejudice.
Re: Google Exposes Web Surveillance Cams
At 02:20 PM 1/9/05 -0600, Riad S. Wahby wrote: I love how all of the coverage leaves out the actual search strings, as if it's hard to discover what they are at this point. I'm similarly annoyed that articles omit the URLs of terrorist web sites, being forced to check ogrish.com, even if I couldn't read the language. But government and its presses know best.
To Tyler Durden
TD, I just watched _Fight Club_ so I finally get your nym. (Here in low-earth geosynchronous orbit, content is delayed). Cool. I had thought it was your real name. Maj. Variola (ret)
To Tyler Durden
TD, I just watched _Fight Club_ so I finally get your nym. (Here in low-earth geosynchronous orbit, content is delayed). Cool. I had thought it was your real name. Maj. Variola (ret)
Re: Tasers for Cops Not You
At 01:20 PM 1/8/05 -0800, John Young wrote: However, Taser claims the civilian version is effective only to 15 feet while the LE version will explose a heart at 20 feet. And, Taser says accidental deaths caused by the shock would have happened to those sick persons anyway. Well, yes, homicidal cops say the perps were begging for it, learning such talk from the president and up to the one who has fun with joy toy tsunamis. John: A taser is 50 KV and microamps. Not fun but it doesn't cause fibrillation. (Incoherent cardiac muscle contraction - no pulse.) I now work for a company that makes defibrillators. It takes a few 10s of Joules through the heart to fibrillate, typically 100-200 J for an adult, during a certain critical window during the sinus rhythm. Our gizmos discharge ~200 uF at up to 2 KV to defibrillate a fibrillating heart, which will also fibrillate if administered to a healthy heart at the wrong time, as I said. That's up to 40 amps. (Through the pads a chest is 20-200 ohms, typically 50.) Without a defibrillator the person is dead, CPR or not. That's the science. As far as pigs wanting slaves/peasants/citizens to be unarmed, well, agree. As far as choke holds on negroes, excessive force on cocaine-stimulated citizens, etc goes, I have nothing to bear on this. As far as banning lethal and nonlethal weapons for use by all but state minions, we agree. When tasers, mace, body armor, .50 cal or lesser rifles are outlawed, well, you know the rest. (Of course mace is best applied with q-tips to the eyes of sitting protesters. And the mercenaries in Iraq do fine with pillowcases and 12V batteries.) Though heavens fall, let justice be done.
Re: Google Exposes Web Surveillance Cams
At 02:20 PM 1/9/05 -0600, Riad S. Wahby wrote: I love how all of the coverage leaves out the actual search strings, as if it's hard to discover what they are at this point. I'm similarly annoyed that articles omit the URLs of terrorist web sites, being forced to check ogrish.com, even if I couldn't read the language. But government and its presses know best.
Re: [IP] The DNA round-up on Cape Cod (fwd from dave@farber.net
The Beast doesn't know who licked the stamp. A fiducial sample is what they want. In Calif, they could merely arrest you for a bogus charge to have the right to sample your families DNA as carried by you. Schwarzenegger is not Austrian accidentally. GATTACA was optimistic. At 06:02 PM 1/10/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: I live in the town of Truro on Cape Cod about 4 or 5 months out of the year. This past week, the Truro has been on the national news because the local police are attempting to obtain DNA samples of all men of the town in order to solve a three-year old murder case. Here are a couple of the articles that give the details of what is going on in this DNA round-up: To Try to Net Killer, Police Ask a Small Town's Men for DNA http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/10/national/10cape.html Truro abuzz over 'swab' DNA testing http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/truroabuzz7.htm I am headed back to my Truro house later this week. If I am approached by the police to provide a DNA sample for their round-up of Truro males, I am planning to refuse. However, I just realized that I already gave a DNA sample to the Town of Truro recently. I paid my property tax bill to the Truro tax collectors office two weeks ago. My DNA is on the tax payment envelope that I licked. Envelopes are apparently a good source of DNA material according to this article: DNA on Envelope Reopens Decades-old Murder Case http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_052103_dnaarrest.html Richard M. Smith http://www.ComputerBytesMan.com -- End of Forwarded Message - You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ - End forwarded message - -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
expectation of privacy
At 09:01 PM 1/12/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: It's time to blow the lid off this no expectation of privacy in public places argument that judges and law enforcement now spout out like demented parrots in so many situations. A court refused to hear the case of a man accused of owning unlicensed pharmaceuticals when a pig entered a locked loo. The loo was part of a gas station; the attendant called the pigs. A prostitute was in there too, with him, and the area rife with folks of that profession, FWIW, which is nothing. But the court held reduced expectation of privacy in a public loo. One imagines much fun with anonymous calls when state employees are in such places, but this does not temper our disgust, or desire for karma with extreme prejudice.
Re: California Bans a Large-Caliber Gun, and the Battle Is On
At 09:53 AM 1/4/05 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: Terri Carbaugh, a spokeswoman for the governor, said Mr. Schwarzenegger, a Republican, had made his position clear during his campaign. It's a military-type weapon, Ms. Carbaugh said of the .50 BMG, and he believes the gun presents a clear and present danger to the general public. Ms C has earned herself a few hundred footpounds, or a few meters of rope and tree-rental. The Constitution explicitly protects our right to bear military (not animal-hunting) arms. -- An RPG a day keeps the occupiers away.
Technology vs social solutions
At 12:06 PM 1/4/05 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. Homebrew warning systems will face the same problems as eg pro volcano warning systems: too many false alarms and no one cares. The best defense would seem to be a population with a lot of TVs and radios. At least after the first tsunami hit, the news would quickly spread, and there were several hours between when the waves arrived at different shores. (And a 9.0 earthquake on the seafloor, or even a 7.0 earthquake on the seafloor, is a rare enough event that it's not crazy to at least issue a stay off the beach kind of warning.) Actually, people should know this as *background* in the same way that you know not to stand in open fields during lightening, play with downed powerlines, or walk into tail rotors. I think some places have signs pointing to higher elevations, with wave-glyphs. I know that FLA has signs like that for hurricane storm-surges, and there are tornado signs in the midwest. The rational explanation, I suppose, is that tsunami are so rare that the knowledge is not maintained. (How many 'Merkins would know how to construct a nukebomb shelter these days? How many SoCal'ians know how to drive on icy roads?) Of course, broadcast media are used to tell people the obvious, eg don't play in channellized rivers during storms, and the evolution of the species suffers slightly but not entirely from the caveats.
sitting ducks
At 12:16 PM 1/4/05 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: Interesting questions: How hard is it for someone to actually hit an airplane with a rifle bullet? How often do airplane maintenance people notice bulletholes? My understanding is that a single bullethole in a plane is not likely to do anything serious to its operation--the hole isn't big enough to depressurize the cabin of a big plane, and unless it hits some critical bits of the plane, it's not going to cause mechanical problems. FWIW Recall that a few 'copters have been taken down with AK fire, though the birds/round is likely low. And copters are more delicate than a multi-engined fixed wing. Hitting the cabin would be pretty effective though. And certain parts of big planes are vital, perhaps moreso on fly by wire Airbus planes. A homemade mortar through the roof of your van (IRA style) onto a stationary, taxiing plane would be pretty spectacular, sitting ducks... lots of cameras... easy getaway or repeat fire.. Of course the BMG crap is all about eroding rights, not reality.
Re: California Bans a Large-Caliber Gun, and the Battle Is On
At 09:53 AM 1/4/05 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: Terri Carbaugh, a spokeswoman for the governor, said Mr. Schwarzenegger, a Republican, had made his position clear during his campaign. It's a military-type weapon, Ms. Carbaugh said of the .50 BMG, and he believes the gun presents a clear and present danger to the general public. Ms C has earned herself a few hundred footpounds, or a few meters of rope and tree-rental. The Constitution explicitly protects our right to bear military (not animal-hunting) arms. -- An RPG a day keeps the occupiers away.
sitting ducks
At 12:16 PM 1/4/05 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: Interesting questions: How hard is it for someone to actually hit an airplane with a rifle bullet? How often do airplane maintenance people notice bulletholes? My understanding is that a single bullethole in a plane is not likely to do anything serious to its operation--the hole isn't big enough to depressurize the cabin of a big plane, and unless it hits some critical bits of the plane, it's not going to cause mechanical problems. FWIW Recall that a few 'copters have been taken down with AK fire, though the birds/round is likely low. And copters are more delicate than a multi-engined fixed wing. Hitting the cabin would be pretty effective though. And certain parts of big planes are vital, perhaps moreso on fly by wire Airbus planes. A homemade mortar through the roof of your van (IRA style) onto a stationary, taxiing plane would be pretty spectacular, sitting ducks... lots of cameras... easy getaway or repeat fire.. Of course the BMG crap is all about eroding rights, not reality.
Technology vs social solutions
At 12:06 PM 1/4/05 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. Homebrew warning systems will face the same problems as eg pro volcano warning systems: too many false alarms and no one cares. The best defense would seem to be a population with a lot of TVs and radios. At least after the first tsunami hit, the news would quickly spread, and there were several hours between when the waves arrived at different shores. (And a 9.0 earthquake on the seafloor, or even a 7.0 earthquake on the seafloor, is a rare enough event that it's not crazy to at least issue a stay off the beach kind of warning.) Actually, people should know this as *background* in the same way that you know not to stand in open fields during lightening, play with downed powerlines, or walk into tail rotors. I think some places have signs pointing to higher elevations, with wave-glyphs. I know that FLA has signs like that for hurricane storm-surges, and there are tornado signs in the midwest. The rational explanation, I suppose, is that tsunami are so rare that the knowledge is not maintained. (How many 'Merkins would know how to construct a nukebomb shelter these days? How many SoCal'ians know how to drive on icy roads?) Of course, broadcast media are used to tell people the obvious, eg don't play in channellized rivers during storms, and the evolution of the species suffers slightly but not entirely from the caveats.
Re: How to Build a Global Internet Tsunami Warning System in a Month
At 10:01 AM 1/3/05 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20041230.html PBS: I, Cringely -- The Pulpit How to Build a Global Internet Tsunami Warning System in a Month 1. 150 K asians is nothing. 2. You will see 10,000 K dead worldwide from the next H5N1 flu coming from your friendly local chinese duck/pig farmer. In under 6 months, which BTW is the time it takes to make a vaccine. 3. Homebrew warning systems will face the same problems as eg pro volcano warning systems: too many false alarms and no one cares. You might do better educating the beachfolk that when the water recedes and they can see the coral, they ought to stop gawking and run. But, hey, its a cool project, have fun.
Re: [IP] Cell phones for eavesdropping
From: Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cell phones for eavesdropping - finally some public chatter Of course, the low-budget govt snoops go for the basestations and landline links. The pending cell phone virus which calls 911 should be a real hoot. I wonder if cell virii can carry a voice payload which they can inject as well. Or do we have to wait a few (viral) generations for that?
Re: How to Build a Global Internet Tsunami Warning System in a Month
At 10:01 AM 1/3/05 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20041230.html PBS: I, Cringely -- The Pulpit How to Build a Global Internet Tsunami Warning System in a Month 1. 150 K asians is nothing. 2. You will see 10,000 K dead worldwide from the next H5N1 flu coming from your friendly local chinese duck/pig farmer. In under 6 months, which BTW is the time it takes to make a vaccine. 3. Homebrew warning systems will face the same problems as eg pro volcano warning systems: too many false alarms and no one cares. You might do better educating the beachfolk that when the water recedes and they can see the coral, they ought to stop gawking and run. But, hey, its a cool project, have fun.
Re: [IP] Cell phones for eavesdropping
From: Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cell phones for eavesdropping - finally some public chatter Of course, the low-budget govt snoops go for the basestations and landline links. The pending cell phone virus which calls 911 should be a real hoot. I wonder if cell virii can carry a voice payload which they can inject as well. Or do we have to wait a few (viral) generations for that?
All your wavelengths belong to us (or Powell, or the SS)
The FCC is trying to shut down a guerilla radio station in DC calling for protests during Bush's January re-anoint^H^H^H^H^H Google for it.
All your wavelengths belong to us (or Powell, or the SS)
The FCC is trying to shut down a guerilla radio station in DC calling for protests during Bush's January re-anoint^H^H^H^H^H Google for it.
Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004
At 02:16 PM 12/20/04 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: No doubt a real intelligence agent would be good at getting through this kind of screening, but that doesn't mean most of the people who want to blow up planes would be any good at it! You really continue to understimate the freedom fighters, don't you? (The first) King George did the same.
Re: [Antisocial] Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theorist
At 01:23 PM 12/19/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: ..They have computers, they're tappin' phone lines, you know that ain't allowed.. Zappa...Heads...Crimson? A profile is emerging here! Either that or you recently broke into your dad's vinyl collection... Very funny. My walls o' vinyl are, BTW, licenses to KaZaa the content in more convenient forms. Here, this will amuse you. Only last week did I burn my first audio CD. The week before, my first data CD. Before that, it was hot backups and ZIP disks. Yes, we're 4 years into the 21st century. Dig. As far as Dad's, well, how many five year olds know Waits, Krimso, and Einsturzende, but know nothing of Brittny? I recently recycled a computer fan guard into the AA site of a mock toy RPG, using styro cups as the grenade and a broken plastic gun as the handle. Compleat with balaclava on the young-un. Stick that in your chillum and process it. And have a nice solstice.
Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?
At 04:23 PM 12/19/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Funny how most Americans only wake up after it happens to them. As EC said, the only we understand is dead Merkins. Case in point? How 'bout that proud-n-patriotic lady in Farenheit 911? As far as I could tell, prior to her son's death she was all in favor of the Attack on Iraq and even encouraged her son to serve (I hate that fucking Karma rules, mofo.
Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004
At 02:16 PM 12/20/04 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: No doubt a real intelligence agent would be good at getting through this kind of screening, but that doesn't mean most of the people who want to blow up planes would be any good at it! You really continue to understimate the freedom fighters, don't you? (The first) King George did the same.
Re: [Antisocial] Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theorist
At 01:23 PM 12/19/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: ..They have computers, they're tappin' phone lines, you know that ain't allowed.. Zappa...Heads...Crimson? A profile is emerging here! Either that or you recently broke into your dad's vinyl collection... Very funny. My walls o' vinyl are, BTW, licenses to KaZaa the content in more convenient forms. Here, this will amuse you. Only last week did I burn my first audio CD. The week before, my first data CD. Before that, it was hot backups and ZIP disks. Yes, we're 4 years into the 21st century. Dig. As far as Dad's, well, how many five year olds know Waits, Krimso, and Einsturzende, but know nothing of Brittny? I recently recycled a computer fan guard into the AA site of a mock toy RPG, using styro cups as the grenade and a broken plastic gun as the handle. Compleat with balaclava on the young-un. Stick that in your chillum and process it. And have a nice solstice.
Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?
At 04:23 PM 12/19/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Funny how most Americans only wake up after it happens to them. As EC said, the only we understand is dead Merkins. Case in point? How 'bout that proud-n-patriotic lady in Farenheit 911? As far as I could tell, prior to her son's death she was all in favor of the Attack on Iraq and even encouraged her son to serve (I hate that fucking Karma rules, mofo.
Militia or other Terrorists?
PS: heard some fedscum mention 'militia and other terrorists' the other day, what would Gen George W think? which fedscum, do you have a mentionable source, c.? It was ATF, about some gun-robbers; it seems to be a reply to trollbait by the Faux news channel or spontaneous dreck. http://www.gunmuse.com/News/Are%20they%20Terrorist%20or%20Militia Are they Terrorist or MilitiaBY GunMuse That was the question asked and answered to by Fox News to the ATF in Michigan Gun store robberies. This is a prime example of where we see our gun organizations failing to take action. Those words are not interchangeable. The Clinton administration tried to make it that way while they rewrote the constitution via executive orders, and gave away federal lands and national treasures (Like the liberty bell) to the United Nations. This is a defamation of character to interchange these words. Militias are required to by the constitution to be a citizen protection from government corruption and abuse of power on its own people. Its the very reason that the military can not be used to police US citizens for any reason. More than 300 firearms have been stolen from local dealers in a short period of time. The thieves were caught on film using a shotgun to blast open the front door running to the back display cases and grabbing as many pistols as they could carry and were gone in less than 1 minute and 15 seconds. The ATF said they already had suspects and had issued a federal search warrant in the case and then was asked the question. Are the robbers terrorist or Militia? Lumping American patriots and believers in a strong constitutional government in the same boat as those who attacked New York.
Re: [Antisocial] Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theorist
At 06:12 AM 12/19/04 +0100, Anonymous wrote: Major Variola typed: PS: heard some fedscum mention 'militia and other terrorists' the other day, what would Gen George W think? which fedscum, do you have a mentionable source, c.? I haven't found the source, I recall that I heard it. Might have been a quickie comment on eg the Crystal Cathedral shooter. (Their depressed music conductor who alas didn't take Schuller out.) reminds of the Reno quote, They have computers and... other weapons of mass destruction. .They have computers, they're tappin' phone lines, you know that ain't allowed..
Re: [Antisocial] Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theorist
At 06:12 AM 12/19/04 +0100, Anonymous wrote: Major Variola typed: PS: heard some fedscum mention 'militia and other terrorists' the other day, what would Gen George W think? which fedscum, do you have a mentionable source, c.? I haven't found the source, I recall that I heard it. Might have been a quickie comment on eg the Crystal Cathedral shooter. (Their depressed music conductor who alas didn't take Schuller out.) reminds of the Reno quote, They have computers and... other weapons of mass destruction. ..They have computers, they're tappin' phone lines, you know that ain't allowed..
Militia or other Terrorists?
PS: heard some fedscum mention 'militia and other terrorists' the other day, what would Gen George W think? which fedscum, do you have a mentionable source, c.? It was ATF, about some gun-robbers; it seems to be a reply to trollbait by the Faux news channel or spontaneous dreck. http://www.gunmuse.com/News/Are%20they%20Terrorist%20or%20Militia Are they Terrorist or MilitiaBY GunMuse That was the question asked and answered to by Fox News to the ATF in Michigan Gun store robberies. This is a prime example of where we see our gun organizations failing to take action. Those words are not interchangeable. The Clinton administration tried to make it that way while they rewrote the constitution via executive orders, and gave away federal lands and national treasures (Like the liberty bell) to the United Nations. This is a defamation of character to interchange these words. Militias are required to by the constitution to be a citizen protection from government corruption and abuse of power on its own people. Its the very reason that the military can not be used to police US citizens for any reason. More than 300 firearms have been stolen from local dealers in a short period of time. The thieves were caught on film using a shotgun to blast open the front door running to the back display cases and grabbing as many pistols as they could carry and were gone in less than 1 minute and 15 seconds. The ATF said they already had suspects and had issued a federal search warrant in the case and then was asked the question. Are the robbers terrorist or Militia? Lumping American patriots and believers in a strong constitutional government in the same boat as those who attacked New York.
Frank Zappa, american composer
At 08:56 PM 12/17/04 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: the shiny pages of ''Hippie'' is to breathe deeply. My copy fell open at a manifesto by Frank Zappa, in which he admitted that ''A freak is not a freak if ALL are freaks,'' and went on to assert that ''Looking and acting eccentric IS NOT ENOUGH.'' How true. I didn't bother wasting my attention enough to see if FZ was deemed a freak or not in this article. I will tell you that he was not into pharmaceuticals but was one of the finest american composers of the last century ---and Tipper Gore[1] will burn in hell for wasting his time. If you want to appreciate his brilliance, the _yellow shark_ album (which puts to music the US form required of immigrants) will inform you. [1] A publicly known mentally ill person who spawned drug-abusing future citizens and slept with liars.
RE: [Antisocial] Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theorist
At 05:33 PM 12/17/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: I am a patriot fighting the real traitors who are destroying our democracy. I resent it when they call me delusional, he said. Tee hee hee... Indeed. The dude shows that 1. ability to inherit $$$ doesn't imply brains 2. he should take a structural engineering class 3. he might appreciate the hubris of Architects (tm) but that requires #2 If he really gave a shat he'd investigate the RDX stored in the Murrah building, next to daycare, but that was just a (.mil trained) 'Merican, not a bunch of specops Ay-rabs. JYA may be Architects (snicker) but methinks he groks structures, and even if not, his cryptome penance absolves him from the sins of the artsy. PS: heard some fedscum mention 'militia and other terrorists' the other day, what would Gen George W think? (Ans: The general would ask, why do we not guillotine the bastards?)
Flaw with lava lamp entropy source
I've been running a 1970s-era lava lamp for some time, and found that it can enter a stable attractor where you get a non-circulating blob o' wax at the bottom. While Walker et al.'s (?) LL video entropy source is cute/clever, the general lesson we can take from this is to be careful that physical sources do not fail. Cooling the lamp and restarting it seems to have put it back into a quasi-random physical trajectory. I suppose my visual observation counts as an online entropic monitor that any physical source apparently should have. This was driven by a 40 watt bulb and the ambient temperature dropped when it stabilized. Shaking did not restart it; only cooling and then reheating did. Now back to your regularly scheduled war crimes.
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
At 12:28 PM 12/16/04 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: Anyone who owns that infrastructure is even more dangerous than who 0wns the voting machines. Very nice quote. Can I get an insurance policy on you, with me as beneficiary?
