Re: CDR: an uncrackable msg
On Sat, 22 Jun 2002, David nolan wrote: hello i got your e-mail address off of a web site, and i was hoping you could help me crack it, if ya dont feel like helping thats ok. hksqphpkwasyoqgjwwscocgvwtavvgsjhthgpgsjpcwgsfanvkhnsphcp = GEORGE BUSH DIDDLES LITTLE BOYS WHILE WATCHING TAPED FOOT iptsvwggjoaakwqsuvwhahfsqpqwwpksugphjoisqpnhwpqsnpqwfpma = AGE OF INNOCENTS BEING MAIMED AND KILLED IN PALESTINE ST iskhkvpwxaighscpwvseovgthjsgpkpfwuskoogvwgsvougqwuacvcsph = OP PREPARE FOR MORE ISRAELI MASSACRES OF INNOCENT CIVILIA ihqpgsvpywjgjsgokwtseajvjhwskhopupcauwpvshcswwpggofsgwrgg = NS STOP PREPARE FOR MORE MASSACRES OF INNOCENTS BY CHINA ocsphtpepcaqwfsfvqhghzsfpp = STOP BUSH TO SUPPORT ALL!! i have no idea how to do it and any help would be appreciated. also if ya do crack it could you tell me what it is and what decription method you used Divination. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: DOJ proposes US data-rentention law.
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, David G. Koontz wrote: Whats next, censorship? Yes. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: DOJ proposes US data-rentention law.
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, David G. Koontz wrote: Whats next, censorship? Yes. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: DES
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, gfgs pedo wrote: Does any 1 have a good referene to the linear differential cryptanaysis of DES or any example or illustration showing the same for DES? http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientq=differential+cryptanalysis Also, your nearest bookstore can order Differential Cryptanalysis, I don't have it in front of me, but IIRC, it's by Shamir, Biham, and someone... Regards DATA. Hrmmm. A TV character asking for help? How appropriate... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Theft Attempt or LEO Sting?
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 12:21 AM -0700 on 6/15/02, Morlock Elloi wrote: The security is proportional to wetware cycles burned per transaction. I guess I don't think that's right. Sooner, hopefully rather than later, machines will be able to buy things from other machines using on-line cash. The risk will be absorbed by having a multitude of underwriters of cash instead of a single issuer for all cash, so you're partly right. But the point is, you can have an authenticated on-line transaction, at least at a risk low enough to move all kinds of money around safely. With all due respect, if this were [yet] true, I submit it would be happening. Cheers, RAH -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Of interest to many of you.
From an LEO friend: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:08:51 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sgt. Kevin Miller of the Detroit Police department has a plan for preventing violence. He wants school officials to ask kids what kinds of guns their parents keep at home and how they are stored, and he thinks that some parents should be reported to Child Protective Services based on these interrogations of minors without their parents' knowledge. Read about it at The Detroit Free Press site, http://www.freep.com/news/metro/nriley2_20020602.htm -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:08:51 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FC: How to patent a Harvard scientist (his parents' idea) (fwd) Sgt. Kevin Miller of the Detroit Police department has a plan for preventing violence. He wants school officials to ask kids what kinds of guns their parents keep at home and how they are stored, and he thinks that some parents should be reported to Child Protective Services based on these interrogations of minors without their parents' knowledge. Read about it at The Detroit Free Press site, http://www.freep.com/news/metro/nriley2_20020602.htm
Nov-L: DEA-Asa misleads the public again (fwd)
Date sent: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:33:12 -0700 Subject:DEA-Asa misleads the public again Friends: You may recall last week the DEA issued a press release reacting to a DC Court decision on a medical marijuana petition. Asa Hutchison declared that the decision showed that marijuana was a dangerous drug and was properly scheduled. In fact, the Court of Appeals did not rule on the substance of the issue -- instead it solely ruled on the issue of standing -- whether or not Jon Gettman and High Times (the petitioners) could bring suit. In addition, whether marijuana is a dangerous drug or not has nothing to do with its placement in Schedule I. Both Sch I and Sch II drugs have a high potential for abuse. The only difference between the Schedules is whether there is an accepted medical use. Certainly, Mr. Hutchison -- a trained attorney -- understands the concept of standing and can read a Court of Appeals decision. He realizes the court did not reach the substance of the issues. So, it seems like he intentionally misled the media and the public. One more deception for the drug warrirors. If they have to be dishonest -- intentionally -- they know they are on weak ground. Kevin November-L is a voluntary mailing list of the November Coalition. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.november.org/lists/ or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the command unsubscribe
Re: CDR: Fw:cc: Customer Service - Ink was never received
I guess that'll teach you not to do business with spammers, huh? Kiss that $34.98 goodbye, idjit... On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Joseph SARGENTI wrote: Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 17:39:15 -0400 From: Joseph SARGENTI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Fw:cc: Customer Service - Ink was never received - Original Message - From: Joseph SARGENTI Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Customer Service - Ink was never received QuikSilver Enterprise Inc. On April 20, 2002 I sent a check in the amount of $34.98 to your company for 1 kit fill-Jet refill kit. The check was cashed on 4/29/02. We have never received the ink kit that your advertised through my e-mail box. Please check your records before I proceed to investigate through the Ohio Attorney Generals Office. The Check was cashed on Charter One Bank in Cleveland, Ohio. Please send me the ink immediately to: Joseph Sargenti 6132 Stillwater Court University Park, Florida 34201 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Joseph Sargenti -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: RE: Degrees of Freedom vs. Hollywood Control Freaks
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Jim Choate wrote: On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: Well, I'm convinced - I guess that's why every single album today is released on both CD *and* vinyl - can't piss off the tens of millions of turntable owners, after all. That's not correct. There are lots of albums (aimed at DJ's for example) that are -NEVER- available except on vinyl. Ok, somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't they officially cease production of vinyl pressings several years ago? As in *all* vinyl pressings??? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: RE: Degrees of Freedom vs. Hollywood Control Freaks
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Jim Choate wrote: On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: Well, I'm convinced - I guess that's why every single album today is released on both CD *and* vinyl - can't piss off the tens of millions of turntable owners, after all. That's not correct. There are lots of albums (aimed at DJ's for example) that are -NEVER- available except on vinyl. Ok, somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't they officially cease production of vinyl pressings several years ago? As in *all* vinyl pressings??? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: your mail
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Natalia wrote: QUIT More specific please? Quit diddling my data? Quit typing so loud after 10:00pm? Quit my job??? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: sources on steganography
Jesus christ Hector! What the fuck are you planning to be when you grow up? A funeral director or something? Grow a sense of humor for chrissakes. Or get lost, whichever is easier. yeah, I top posted. And my sig is at the bottom. Sue me. On Thu, 30 May 2002, Hector Rosario wrote: Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:41:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Hector Rosario [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Morlock Elloi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Re: sources on steganography Why would I be interested in fool[ing] [you]. All I asked was for some help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what drives you, then I suggest that you work on that. hr On Wed, 29 May 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote: I am writing my dissertation on steganography. Basically I'm writing a ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ You can't fool us. = end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: your mail
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Natalia wrote: QUIT More specific please? Quit diddling my data? Quit typing so loud after 10:00pm? Quit my job??? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: sources on steganography
Jesus christ Hector! What the fuck are you planning to be when you grow up? A funeral director or something? Grow a sense of humor for chrissakes. Or get lost, whichever is easier. yeah, I top posted. And my sig is at the bottom. Sue me. On Thu, 30 May 2002, Hector Rosario wrote: Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:41:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Hector Rosario [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Morlock Elloi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Re: sources on steganography Why would I be interested in fool[ing] [you]. All I asked was for some help with sources. If you cannot be of help, at least don't be a hindrance. Besides, don't claim to speak for others. If envy is what drives you, then I suggest that you work on that. hr On Wed, 29 May 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote: I am writing my dissertation on steganography. Basically I'm writing a ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ You can't fool us. = end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Spoliation
Yeah, I know, this is long gone... But... I still thought there would be interest. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rae Cogar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:26 AM Subject: website case Here is a recently reported case from California that found a company guilty of spoliation of evidence by changing information on their website during litigation. One point made by the court in this case is there were no policies or procedures for the updating or deleting of material from the website. You can find this opinion at: http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/cand/tentrule.nsf/4f9d4c4a03b0cf70882567980073b 2e4/cf68f686007991fa88256af1006a9e16?OpenDocument (you will need to cut and paste url) Spoliation Sanctions for Deletion of Web Page The defendant corporation moved to dismiss for lack of personal jurisdiction, denying minimum contacts with the state of California. The plaintiff offered as evidence a page from the defendant's web site that listed a California office address. While the motion was pending, the California address disappeared from the defendant's web site. Though one employee of the defendant testified that he had deleted the page in routine maintenance, there was no corporate maintenance policy that would explain the deletion. The court granted the plaintiff's motion to enjoin further spoliation and ordered that the defendant pay plaintiff's attorney's fees as a sanction. Pennar Software Corp. v. Fortune 500 Sys., 51 Fed. R. Serv. 279 (N.D. Cal. 2001). Another case for good records management! Rae Cogar, Esq. RCS Consulting Hamburg, NY 716-646-6192 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spoliation
Yeah, I know, this is long gone... But... I still thought there would be interest. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rae Cogar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:26 AM Subject: website case Here is a recently reported case from California that found a company guilty of spoliation of evidence by changing information on their website during litigation. One point made by the court in this case is there were no policies or procedures for the updating or deleting of material from the website. You can find this opinion at: http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/cand/tentrule.nsf/4f9d4c4a03b0cf70882567980073b 2e4/cf68f686007991fa88256af1006a9e16?OpenDocument (you will need to cut and paste url) Spoliation Sanctions for Deletion of Web Page The defendant corporation moved to dismiss for lack of personal jurisdiction, denying minimum contacts with the state of California. The plaintiff offered as evidence a page from the defendant's web site that listed a California office address. While the motion was pending, the California address disappeared from the defendant's web site. Though one employee of the defendant testified that he had deleted the page in routine maintenance, there was no corporate maintenance policy that would explain the deletion. The court granted the plaintiff's motion to enjoin further spoliation and ordered that the defendant pay plaintiff's attorney's fees as a sanction. Pennar Software Corp. v. Fortune 500 Sys., 51 Fed. R. Serv. 279 (N.D. Cal. 2001). Another case for good records management! Rae Cogar, Esq. RCS Consulting Hamburg, NY 716-646-6192 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDR: Jimbos spam
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Al Haqq wrote: If you read the headers you will see the spam is comming from Jimbo. We can all read slashdot why does he spam this list with it. Why does he let the porn through his node,read the headers. Non of his postings are on topic,this is cyperpunks not yahoo. In the name of Allah the most Gracious the most Merciful Blessed be He in Whose hands is Dominion; and He over all things hath Power; He Who created Death and Life, that He may try which of you is best in deed; and He is the Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving; He Who created the seven heavens one above another: no want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (Allah) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: seest thou any flaw? Again turn thy vision a second time: (thy) vision will come back to thee dull and discomfited, in a state worn out. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Spam and Porn from EINSTEIN
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote: Slightly unrelated, sort of poll: Would anyone object if mail list software would limit number of daily messages from the same source* to an arbitary percentage of total messages from all sources ? Yes. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Jimbos spam
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Al Haqq wrote: I notice when Jimbo is asked to stop spaming he does it even more He has been sending his spam all day, today In my part the world this would be called a mental problem. Much of Jim's Spam is the work of an imposter, likely Mattd. Regardless of that however, there are filtered versions of this list - if you don't like it, leave: vote with your feet. In the name of Allah the most Gracious the most Merciful Alif lam mim. Get Your Free Email at www.ajeeb.com -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
[303] If you're sick of crypto talk don't read this (fwd)
Just to add to the saga... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:47:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Person [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [303] If you're sick of crypto talk don't read this Quote from http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/technotes/bernstein.html: 'Finally, the recent concern [2] [3] [9] about the security of 1024-bit RSA keys is based in part on a misreading of Bernstein's paper. These references quote an estimate that for about $1 billion, a national agency could build a factoring machine based on Bernstein's design that could break a 1024-bit RSA key in a matter of seconds to minutes. However, a factor of 10 billion or more was inadvertently left out of the running time in the preliminary analysis --- which means that the actual running time, assuming the machine could be built, would be measured in decades (see Note 1). Moreover, Bernstein himself is quoted [5] as saying This is a theoretical advance. I have no idea and nobody else has any idea how practical it might be.' Now granted, RSA has a vested interest in calming down the FUD on the perceived weakening of cryptosystems based on IFP (of which they are the most popular), but they raise a valid point. The preliminary analysis that Bernstein described was hardware-implemented circuits to do odd/even transposition sorting and then to find smooth numbers (an integer with no prime factors). This would be done (in theory) via RAM sieving, parallel trial division, or parallel elliptic curve methods. It's unclear as to which method would be the most efficient in hardware. In fact, the methodology outlined in page eight of Bernstein's paper (http://cr.yp.to/papers/nfscircuit.ps) is extremely theoretical, to the point of casting doubt on whether it's even worth discussing the NFS itself without another five or six years of research on these preliminary operations. Something I've said time and again, that RSA won't say, is this: if you are worried about the security of your RSA public key based on it's seemingly obsolete size but you don't want to deal with the processor overhead of doubling your RSA keysize, just switch to an equivalent size Diffie-Hellman key. Easy as that. [t]
Re: CDR: RE: mil disinfo on cryptome (and sec clearance games)
Note that you also [explicitly] waive your search and siezure rights (at least this was the case the last time I looked at the forms for TS) - not a nice thing :-( On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Optimizzin Al-gorithym wrote: Another reason: once you get a clearance, you can't speak freely. The latest _Tech Review_ interviews an MIT Prof Postol, who has been pointing out the lies behind Raytheon's Patriot missile and the anti-ballistic missile sham. Reportedly, some friendly DoD folks came to him and asked him to read a classified report that would put some of his technical worries at ease. Postol refused, knowing that this is a scheme used to silence folks --having been exposed to classified info, you have to watch what you say. If you figure it out from open data + general science, you can speak your mind. (BTW The basic deception is, if our gizmo can't discriminate this kind of decoy, well, don't use that kind of decoy in the tests..) -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Burning Man: Next Al Qaeda Target
You didn't read the whole thing, did you? This is an April 1 hoax... On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: MTV bought Burning Man(tm), http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2002/SHOWBIZ/04/01/Music/MTV/ so now that there will be TV cameras, its a great target, if a bit dispersed. 30K folks, no metal detectors, and wide dispersion of any infectious diseases. And under a layer of mud, we all look the same. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Burning Man: Next Al Qaeda Target (sorry, we got pranked)
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 02:05 PM 4/5/02 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: MTV bought Burning Man(tm), http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2002/SHOWBIZ/04/01/Music/MTV/ sorry, we got pranked And I am [obviously] catching up on the weeks mail :-( -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Julia Child was a Spook
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: A terrorist attacks a target conveniently designated by him as SYMBOLIC of his chosen adversary; the target is preferably unsuspecting and undefended. The ultimate purpose is to frighten his adversary, or somebody with influence on that adversary, So far, so good, but from here we disagree. into harming himself. Strike out harming himself - insert into taking some specific action(s). In the case of most current terrorist organizations, the target is liberal western republics, and the aim is to instill fear that will be manifest in repression that will in effect dismantle the freedom that the terrorists hate. You've been listening to Shrub to much. What makes you think this is about hating freedom? Might this not be about getting us to mind our own fucking business??? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Julia Child was a Spook
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've been listening to Shrub to much. What makes you think this is about hating freedom? Might this not be about getting us to mind our own fucking business??? I really don't give a fig about the opinions of the current resident of the White House. I've been studying terror and its practitioners for about 25 years and I know their mentality. I'm sorry you've bought the terrorist line that it's all about US support for Israel. Interesting reaction. I never mentioned Israel, nor do I think that the US support of Israel is what it's all about - although that is likely a good sized piece of it. Judging from your response, I'd say you were the one who has bought into someone's line. I know better. They always do... We could withdraw from the Middle East tomorrow, and all that would change would be the excuse. You have so completely missed the point here that it's almost comical. The fact that we provide aid and encouragement to the nazi-like Israeli's is but a small part of our problem. Marc de Piolenc -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: I have OCD and need help
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, John P. Clarke wrote: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:44:56 From: John P. Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: I have OCD and need help I've read books, done therapy, and consulted with many for over 16 years without any substantial progress. Among other problems, I need to deal with a mental compulsion to break apart words and phrases into symmetrical groups, the continual counting and sorting of everything I see, and the uncontrollable parade of ideas in my head competing for attention. This interferes with concentration, impairs decision-making, and leads to frustration and depression. I would welcome suggestions, possible solutions, reference materials, referrals, anything you might recommend. Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suicide. Clean, easy, to the point... Thank you for your help. Sincerely, John P. Clarke -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: I'm no agent.
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Steve Furlong wrote: Aimee Farr wrote: What happens if you break the laws of mathematics? You get a black hole. a/k/a Mattd... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: time-delayed release of information
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: High power laser beams are hard to outrun. As opposed to low power laser beams? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Copyleft vs. Copyright: A Marxist critique
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Jim Choate wrote: I do it the old natural way...genetics. I sleep when I'm sleepy, I don't when I'm not. Works for me. Isn't working in high tech wonderful? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Hunt The Boeing...
For all you 9/11 fans. This is NOT a joke, although I was laughing for a good half hour ;-) http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Worldwide Caution - Public Announcement (fwd)
yawn... On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Jim Choate wrote: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:31:10 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Worldwide Caution - Public Announcement (fwd) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:54:03 -0500 From: PA List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Worldwide Caution - Public Announcement Worldwide Caution - Public Announcement March 17, 2002 The U.S. Government continues to receive credible reports that extremist individuals are planning additional terrorist actions against U.S. interests. Such actions may be imminent and include suicide operations. We have no further information on specific targets, timing or method of attack. We remind American citizens to remain vigilant with regard to their personal security and to exercise caution. Terrorist groups do not distinguish between official and civilian targets. The March 17 attack on worshippers at the Protestant International Church in Islamabad underlines the growing possibility that as security is increased at official U.S. facilities, terrorists and their sympathizers will seek softer targets. These may include facilities where Americans are generally known to congregate or visit, such as clubs, restaurants, places of worship, schools or outdoor recreation events. Americans should increase their security awareness when they are at such locations, avoid them, or switch to other locations where Americans in large numbers generally do not congregate. American citizens may be targeted for kidnapping. In late January 2002, an American journalist was kidnapped and murdered in Pakistan. U.S. Government facilities worldwide remain at a heightened state of alert. These facilities may on occasion temporarily close or suspend public services to review their security posture and ensure its adequacy. In those instances, U.S. Embassies and Consulates will make every effort to provide emergency services to American citizens. Americans are urged to monitor the local news and maintain contact with the nearest American Embassy or Consulate. The Department will continue to develop information about potential threats to Americans overseas and to share with them credible threat information through its Consular Information Program documents. These documents are available on the Internet at http://travel.state.gov. In addition to information on the Internet, U.S. travelers may hear recorded information by calling the Department of State in Washington, D.C. at 202-647-5225 from their touch-tone telephone, or receive information by automated telefax by dialing 202-647-3000 from their fax machine. This Public Announcement - Worldwide Caution supersedes the previous Worldwide Caution of February 1, 2002 to note the imminent threat of terrorist actions which may target civilians and include suicide operations. This Public Announcement - Worldwide Caution expires on August 17, 2002. ### *** See http://travel.state.gov/travel_warnings.html for State Department Travel Warnings To change your subscription, go to http://www.state.gov/www/listservs_cms.html -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Anonymous Reformatter goes on hiatus
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, An Metet wrote: The Anonymous Reformatter would like to thank everyone who took the time to comment on his efforts. The Anonymous Reformatter is going on hiatus. Any further [Reformatted] postings are not the Real Thing(tm). Vacation? Who told you that you could go on vacation? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Netscape, DoJ, Linux, now Al Qaeda
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: U.S. intelligence officials said Islamic terrorists have picked economic-warfare targets inside the United States. This includes intelligence that al Qaeda terrorists plan to attack Microsoft's headquarters in Redmond, Wash. Pray they get it right the first time ;-) -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: RE: New heights of spam from Choate and MattX
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: mattd has actually improved slightly as well - some of his messages are actually on-topic, and reference other's postings appropriately. It's been a full week since he's called for my violent death. An entire *week*? Naw. Not possible... If not you, then _who_??? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
{OT} Nov-L: San Diego Tribune: Bail Denied again for Hobart Huson(fwd)
Can I get a needs killing here??? -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 10:28:53 -0800 From: Nora Callahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nov-L: San Diego Tribune: Bail Denied again for Hobart Huson Prosecutors say man supplied chemicals By Marisa Taylor STAFF WRITER March 7, 2002 Back home in Texas, Hobart Huson is known for his business acumen and his insistence that U.S. drug laws should be reformed. Huson, the grandson of a Texas historian and the son of a lawyer, is now accused of breaking those drug laws. He has been sitting in the federal jail in downtown San Diego since October, when he was indicted on drug conspiracy charges. If convicted, Huson faces up to 30 years in prison. Federal authorities contend he knew that shipments from the Texas chemical distribution company he owned were headed to an Ecstasy lab in Escondido. Yesterday, Mark S. Windsor, Huson's attorney, tried unsuccessfully to persuade U.S. District Judge Thomas Whelan to release Huson on bail. Windsor described his client as a political prisoner. This is becoming an Inquisition, Windsor said. A big part of why he's being detained is because of his political beliefs. Assistant U.S. Attorney Todd Robinson said Huson's actions landed him in jail. He not only held these beliefs, he promoted a lifestyle, Robinson said. He dedicated his life to promoting the manufacture and use of controlled substances by writing books on how to do it and opening a company that provided the chemicals. Eighteen others were arrested in the Escondido drug-lab case. Four of them have been released pending trial. The group is accused of setting up a lab in Patton Industrial Park capable of producing up to 1.5 million tablets of the hallucinogen a month. The lab was hidden in the same rented office as an Internet pornography business that operated under the name of Infobase Direct Marketing. Huson, 34, has been identified as the author known as Strike, who wrote three how-to books about drug manufacturing that can be bought online. He is also a member of the November Coalition, a nonprofit group that calls for the reform of drug laws. Prosecutors also say he helped run the Hive, an online chat room that prosecutors say is aimed at underground chemists and referred users to Huson's former business. Federal authorities say the drug ring began testing the lab last spring with the intention of producing Ecstasy in bulk. Authorities say they believe they raided the lab before the drug hit the streets. Huson resigned from Science Alliance, the Humble, Texas, company that he co-owned, soon after his arrest. Robinson argued yesterday that Huson should be jailed until trial because he might be dangerous. A Texas magistrate already had ordered Huson held without bail in October, but Huson's attorney appealed the ruling to Whelan. Whelan refused to release Huson. He also denied a request from The San Diego Union-Tribune for access to portions of yesterday's bail hearing and documents that the defense attorney argued should remain secret. In the part of the hearing that remained open, Robinson revealed new allegations that Huson had supplied chemicals to another Ecstasy lab, this one in La Jolla. Authorities raided that lab Tuesday, and Robinson said a suspect told authorities he bought chemicals from Science Alliance, Huson's former business. Robinson also contended that Huson sold Gamma Hydroxybutyrate, a drug also known as GHB or the date rape drug. Four people who bought the chemical from Huson's company were hospitalized. Two of them died. The things he sells kill people, Robinson said. Before his arrest, Huson was the subject of a TV news magazine segment that accused him of selling chemicals to an Arizona drug lab run by college students. Huson later was indicted in a separate case connected to that lab. Huson's attorney accused federal authorities of overcharging his client because of the publicity and compared Huson to a pharmacist who sells medicine that is misused without his knowledge. Windsor said his client, who has pleaded not guilty to the charges, sold only legal chemicals and had no idea the buyers planned to manufacture drugs. He's a businessman – nothing else, Windsor said. Nora Callahan, director of the November Coalition, said Huson appeared to be a passionate activist. Callahan, a San Diego native who now lives in Washington state, said her group is a nonprofit organization dedicated to speaking out against what its members see as the injustices of the war on drugs. Huson set up an informational booth two years ago in Houston to hand out November Coalition pamphlets, Callahan said. He was active and very faithful, she said. We would get letters from people saying, 'I'm writing about that lone man.' -- The November Coalition, founded in 1997 is a 501 (c) (3) nonprofit organization, your gifts are tax deductible. You can send your donation to:
[EMED-L] One if by land, two if by... (fwd)
In light of the many recent discussions on this, some of you may be interested in this. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:11:13 -0500 From: Harry Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: EMED-L -- a list for emergency medicine practitioners. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EMED-L] One if by land, two if by... Dear Colleague, Water water everywhere and not a drop to drink. (Remember the poem?) Is it likely that terrorists could contaminate our water and that we, too, wouldn't have a drop to drink? For the second Cyberounds Special Feature on Bioterrorism, guest author Richard G. Luthy, Ph.D., Silas H. Palmer Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Stanford University, and Chair, Water Science and Technology Board, National Research Council, presents a professional version of his testimony before Congress, Is Our Nation's Water System Safe From Terrorism? One hour in Category I credit towards the AMA PRA. http://www.cyberounds.com/conferences/special_features The sprinklers are off at the Cardio Country Club, and you can drink bottled water stored in your own refrigerator. Earn FREE CME at the world's safest and most convenient sports venue: http://www.cyberounds.com/conferences/cardiovascular_medicine/ This activity has been planned and implemented in accordance with the Essentials and Standards of the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education(ACCME) through joint sponsorship of Albert Einstein College of Medicine and interMDnet Corporation. Albert Einstein College of Medicine is accredited by the ACCME to provide continuing medical education for physicians. Albert Einstein College of Medicine designates this continuing medical education activity for a maximum of 1 hour in category 1 credit toward the AMA Physician Recognition Award. Each physician should claim only those hours of credit that he/she actually spent in the educational activity. Sorry for any cross-postings. The Editors of Cyberounds Leslie Carr, Ethel Chafetz and Harry Levy, M.D. Victor B. Hatcher, Ph.D. Associate Dean Director of Center for Continuing Medical Education Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry Albert Einstein College of Medicine To unsubscribe, send the command SIGNOFF EMED-L to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDR: Re: Recording Sunder on the Subway
130db is noisy? Pussy. ;-) On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Sunder wrote: Yeah, ok, so I know one thing about you now. You're not from NY and never have been. NYC subways are the noisiest in the world. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ --*--:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Optimizzin Al-gorithym wrote: Maybe its *audio* they're recording and they're trying to get around wiretap laws. At 09:42 AM 2/22/02 -0500, Sunder wrote: On a quick look around, I didn't show any cameras, but pinhole cameras would be easy to hide. I would have put them in the far corners of the car somewhere near the top, and you'd probably be able to get a good look from the round, but flat air conditioner vents, or on the glass covered displays that state the train destination, but I didn't see cameras or any obvious smoked glass, or holes. (My criterial being, Where would I put cameras so I would limit the number to one or two per car to keep it cheap, and still be able to see the whole car?) Further, I didn't notice any new cables going around, and you'd probably need lots of them to be able to record video from each car, or a VCR in each car somewhere... I guess the next time I'm on one of those trains, I'll try to be where the conductor is and get a peek inside their cabin... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: BushMob - Israel's Obedient PUPPETS
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Harmon Seaver wrote: It should be obvious to anyone with half a brain by this time that there are only three alternatives for peace in the that area: 1) The Palistinians can all leave and move to Jordan, which is ethnically all the same people anyway. The Israelis made a very stupid mistake to allow any of them to stay or come back anyway. or 2) The Israelis can all leave, and maybe build a new state floating in the sea. or 3) Someone can develop a gaseous dispersal form of LSD and blitz the whole area with it once a week for a year. I vote for number 2. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: bulk hosting info
John Walker 1600 Pennsylvalia Avenue Washington, D.C. 53222 On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Tony Burton wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:55:16 -0800 From: Tony Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: bulk hosting info Please reply with contact information. I am interested in your services. Tony -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: list spam, game theory, etal.
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are not sufficiently suspicious and cynical. Observe that the three people who are spamming and trolling this list have similar political views, views whose implementation requires a large and powerful state. You need to realie that I am OK with whatever political views are held and espoused by anyone (even yours James!) - if they are here to engage on them, I think thats *great*. It's the intrinsically dishonest crap that I have issues with - and Jei/Choate are not (AFAICT) dishonest (although Jim has this *awful* habit of mapping me into the wrong political camps). In fact, I appreciate Jim's spam, and have defended it here before (much to Jim's annoyane I am sure!). At least Jim's stuff is [usually] on topic, and a genuine attempt to push thought out to those who are willing to read his posts. Of course, this does not mean I agree with him on any particular issue or item (sometimes I do, sometimes I don't). mattd is a whole different ballgame. He is, as pointed out, quite simply an unmedicated nutjob who makes no visible attempt to do anything but mumble to himself out loud to anyone who is present, with no attempt to engage or even mumble [loosely] on topic. His current fascination with Peter [Trei] is a great example of why he has made it into my killfile - Peter outed him for plaigerism sp?, and mattd's response has been to go on and on about how evil Peter is, and how Peter needs to die... sheesh! jei appears [to me] to be legit by intent, but so unfocused as to have made it into my killfile simply as a defensive measure - I simply can't wade through his massive volume, and still get to the 300-500 operational emails I have to deal with each day. I *do* [often] think about how justified his killfile entry is, and I may well remove it during periods of reduced load here. Jim has never, and likely will never make it into any of my killfiles - he is obviously, *completely* and totally legit. Obtuse sometimes, but legit nonetheless (although i *really* wish he would stop and think before lumping me in with his evil CACL crowds :-) -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: BBC News | SCI/TECH | Watching your every move
Over here in the midwest USA these cameras have been springing up on the highways (mounted on the overhanging sodium lamps) like crazy. What's really amazing is that there is so little public *notice* of them (I realize the public may not bitch about it, but I _am_ surprised that the public *literally* doesn't *see* them). I've wondered greatly at how useful these cameras can be on major arteries where average speeds are in the 50-75mph range, but I guess the answer lies in their proliferation. On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Jim Choate wrote: Subject: CDR: BBC News | SCI/TECH | Watching your every move http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1789000/1789157.stm -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: list spam, game theory, etal.
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Trei, Peter quoted the mad ravings of mattd: Consider this recent post excerpt: I store articles that interest me here.Filter me out and I'm happy as a pig in shit. I had to look up the relevant post to believe it wasn't somehow being used out of contextboggle. Mattd: Have you considered a distributed system to store your rantings and fascinations? Unlike the spam content you used to [attempt to] justify your actions, you are acting deliberately, with malice aforethought as it were, to steal the use of others [generously donated] resources. This is beyond disgusting, it's an abhorrent act. Your position that using the archives as a storage medium is excused because you have paid your dues by being arrested by a completely unrelated third party (the goverment of whatever place you infest) is not sound - the exact same logic would allow me to break into your house and put an end to whats left of your miserable existence, without repercussions, merely because I have been arrested a few times myself. OK, more than a few, but, I digress... Jim, if you expunge this asshole's storage, he will likely find greener pastures to abuse elsewhere. This would be an act of self-defense, not censorship. And I think everyone here (and maybe even mattd if he ever gets the medication he so desperately needs) would both agree and applaud. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: list spam, game theory, etal.
Jim, I believe Peter's point, and mine as well, is that posters such as Jei and mattd differ by their intent. Jei is obviously a participant, and an active one. Whether or not anyone cares to listen, he's legit in that he is actively engaging those who care to receive him. For those who do not, theres procmail et al. Until mattd made his actual purposes known (i.e., that this is seen by him as a free archive service), I had [personally] lumped him in with Jei - vocal, but useless. However, with the understanding that mattd is merely using [scarce] publicly donated resources solely for his own purposes, with no intent of paying the dues that really matter (i.e., interacting with those who share the CDR universe he has chosen to infest), he is exposed as a mere thief. Worse, he is exposed as a thief who is acting intentionally for the purposes of taking without giving, which *is* the ultimate list charter. At least the spammer can honestly say that her deliberate appropriation of others resources is done for the purpose of interacting (a sale and purchase is without question an interaction). Can mattd make this claim? Of course not. As to censoring being good or bad: you can only censor a view, or put another way, a *participant*. Preventing someone from using your (and I mean your==archive operators) facilities for their own single-sided gain is not an act of censoship. Nobody gave mattd the right to use your machines as an extension of his hard drive. I agree with Peter, mattd is *slime*. Spammers, by and large, don't bother me (unless I'm *really* raggy that day), but this sociopathic little shit is without question worth whacking. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Jim Choate wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: Read my post again. My problem was not with folks who want to talk or flame on or off topic. Your problem is your a whinner when you don't get your way or people with other views manage to stand toe to toe and point for point with your CACL drivel. It is with a person who disregards the entire notion of using the list for discourse of any kind. It is the list operators who make this decision, not the list members. It's that property thing you CACL folks seem to forget when it isn't your property. He posts things to the list (and thus into the archives) What and how people use the archives are the archivists decision to make. Not yours and not the users of the archive (there only decision is it relevant to their personal goals). simply as a storage device - saving him the time and trouble of having to save them to disk. He is indifferent to whether anyone else reads them or not. Which is relevant how? Take my pointers for example. I get plenty of feedback on their utility. One regular list member even found some work as a consequence (and it was relevant to cpunks topics to boot). I also intentionaly use the archives as a storage so if I, or anyone else, can get back to them easily. It's that community thing. If you are really that concerned, as an archivist versus a CACL whiner, about the use of resources then as the owner/operator you are free to filter as you see fit. You're myopic. This is abuse of the whole notion of a mailing list as a place of discourse. It is a sociopathic disregard for everyone who uses the list as a place for discussion and persuasion. It is more contemptable than even spam. Bullshit. Just plain and simple. A mailing list exists for the use and utility of its operators and subscribersk, AT THAT TIME. Not previous mailing lists, or social expectations writ large qualify as a binding precedence. Talk about somebody in a rut. As Jefferson said, the world belonds to the living not the dead. It's not sociopathic in any manner, opportunistic perhaps. In addition since there is no harm done to anyone it's a little hard to understand CACL complaints on these sorts of topics. Just goes to demonstrate my claim that CACL is really socialist at heart wanting everyone to do the same thing so a small group can benefit. What happend, your d key break? procmail quit working? -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
Anonymous Multicast
Has anyone here had any personal experience with this? I am currently examining it, incidentally to another project at work, and it looks *very* interesting. http://www.tik.ee.ethz.ch/tik/education/lectures/ITS/WS01_02/files/vorl07_sangria_2auf1.pdf http://www1.acm.org/pubs/citations/journals/tissec/2000-3-2/p63-dolev/ many others on google with the above two key words. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Has the Pentagram Replaced the Swastika?
That's it - no more... *plonk* On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Jei wrote: Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 16:08:53 +0200 (EET) From: Jei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Has the Pentagram Replaced the Swastika? -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 15:05:48 - From: fallout1963 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Armageddon-or-NewAge] Re: Has the pentagram replaced the swastika? We have observed a light show on several occassions in New York City since September 2000. Small circles of light race across the sky and then stop to form such shapes as a pentagram. The lights seem to originate on the West Side of Manhattan but have been seen over the New Jersey skyline as well. These light shows do not seem to be connected with any advertising effort . There is no mention of them in the press. If anyone has any information on these lights please e to us or share with the readers of this forum. Is this happening anywhere else? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], biochimp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that these days it seems everywhere you look there is a pentagram incorporated into their logo. Maybe it just because I live in the lonestar state of texas, where all major sports teams have it dallas cowboys, stars, mavericks, rangers... almost every tv channel has it in their logo, you'll find 5 pointed stars almost anywhere you look, imbedded in the designs of office building ,shopping centers, small buisnesses, even resturants. there are hundreds of companys that begin with star.. star..this star..that and of course the pentagram is in their logo and on their buisness cards. I'm so sick of seeing stars -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: A small token of our displeasure
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since politicians and blind patriots are busy wrapping themselves in the flag and placing it everwhere like spor, I've started flying mine upside down (a distress signal for the nation). In particular, I'm sending all my mail using flag stamps flying inverted. Cute, but I would expect a visit from the local Gestapo any day... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: More clueless news forwardings
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Tim May wrote: He joins mattd, Choate, Hettinga and others in the filter file. Hettinga? Feel free to tell me to go fuck myself (not that you'd *ever* have a hard time with that!), but I'm curious - why Hettinga? Just too much micropayment hope-against-reason, or something else? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: RE: Disease vectors.
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Aimee Farr wrote: Anonymous wrote: Agent Farr wrote: I'm sure you think that's really funny. Truth is seldom funny. They are restricting foreigners, going through spy/treason mania, gagging the press, they even have a new law against desecrating the national anthem. Their new senate consists of powerful people nominated to represent small regions from which they have no connection whatsoever. (None of this has made the Washington Post, or I haven't seen it.) 75% of their politicians take bribes, and the old KGB runs the country. I don't mean to mirror-image, but it's disturbing -- it's like they *COPIED* our anti-dissent statutes c. 1917, and right before we entered the Cold War. (Espionage Sedition Acts, Smith Act, etc) This is also a description of today's United States. So, given that you [appear to] believe this kind of behaviour is evil, what are *you* doing to rectify our national attitude problem? ~Aimee A black rose [agent] by any other name will still smell as rank... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: One arms violent people with weapons
14: Defense Mapping Agency (!= (NRO || NIMA)) On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:20:03 -0800 (PST) From: Meyer Wolfsheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Re: One arms violent people with weapons On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: Von Buelow: Right, but actually it was astounding: There are 26 intelligence services in the U.S.A. with a budget of $30 billion-- 26? Huh? Okay - CIA, DIA, NSA, the State Department's intel/security arm, the individual Armed Services... that brings us to 8. What are the other 19. Maybe they're counting the Secret Service as an intel agency (it isn't). But that's still only 9. Where are the other 17? There are 13 agencies/organizations in the US Intelligence community, according to the CIA: Central Intelligence Agency Defense Intelligence Agency National Security Agency Army Intelligence Navy Intelligence Air Force Intelligence Marine Intelligence Mational Imagery and Mapping Agency National Reconnaissance Office Department of State Department of Energy Department of the Treasury Federal Bureau of Investigation http://www.cia.gov/ic/ -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Rogue terror state violates Geneva Convention
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: mattd wrote: US violates the Geneva Convention The US is a signatory to the Geneva Convention, which specifies the conditions under which such prisoners are to be treated. The Convention covers irregular forces such as al-Qaeda as well as regular armed forces, Al-Quaeda is not a military force by any reasonable reckoning; I don't know what your definition of military force is Marc, but any *group* of persons who are armed and engaged in common cause qualify as a military force in my book. According to dictionary.com, military is defined as: military (ml-tr) adj. Of, relating to, or characteristic of members of the armed forces: a military bearing; military attire. Performed or supported by the armed forces: military service. Of or relating to war: military operations. Of or relating to land forces. You may not approve of calling groups you disagree with military, yet it does not change the facts. it is a criminal association whose victims are defenseless and innocent of any involvement (pro or anti) in the cause that the criminal association claims to espouse. I assume you are referring to the WTC victims here. Sorry, but they were not innocent. They, as participants in the selection of the rulers of this country, are 100% guilty of the many crimes perpetrated by the United States against other peoples. As for AQ being a criminal association: how do you arrive at this? I suspect you get there by considering their acts to be outside of accepted behaviour (of any lawful society). If so, then I agree that they qualify as a criminal association, however, this definition also qualifies the USA as a criminal association. What's good for the goose should be good for the gander, ya? and a quick skim suggests that the US are violating it in several ways. Interrogation: the US has publicly stated they will interrogate the prisoners; however this is specificly forbidden by the convention. Interrogation is certainly NOT prohibited by the Convention. Where are you getting this nonsense? He hallicinates a lot when he runs out of Thorazine. Trial and punishment: POWs are considered to be subject to the same laws and regulations as soldiers of the detaining power; they may be tried only by military courts (except where jurisdiction would normally belong to civil courts), and sentances must be the same as for soldiers of the detaining power commiting similar acts. POWs tried for acts commited prior to capture retain the benefits of the Convention even if convicted. I'll say it again - these are not prisoners of war! Really? Fuhrer Bush disagrees with you. Our Maximum Leader has declared a war on terrorism (conveniently leaving out our own terrorist tendencies and acts). It was this war which led to the detention of these prisoners. Sorry Marc, these are indeed prisoners of war. Or maybe you consider that all the military force we just used over in Afghanistan was something other than an act of war? Terrorism maybe? If US prisoners were treated in this manner, the US would be kicking and screaming. Is this another case of US moral exceptionalism? I just *hate* to agree with mattd, but he's right on target here. If the US prisoners in question had engineered, or were suspected of having engineered, the deaths of thousands of innocent people, You can't *possibly* be this naive. I suspect that even LESS sympathy or consideration would be shown them. They certainly would not get any from me. Talk the talk, but do you walk the walk? Marc de Piolenc -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Random Data Compressed 100:1 (Guffaw)
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Ken Brown wrote: Michael Motyka wrote: Here we go : As Eric correctly points out, true random input simply cannot be compressed, it doesn't matter how clever you are or how much time and computing power you have access to. This is a statement of belief isn't it? Odd. No, it's a logical consequence of his definition of random no more a statement of belief than 1+1=2 is. If you use the word to mean something else then it might or might not be true in your universe. So, it depends on what the definition of is is? ;-) -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Dear Declan
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Anonymous Coredump wrote: mattd recently babbled incoherently: _Please_ don't feed the troll... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Phone service 1.4 cents a minute
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought toad had been buried? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: End of the IRS??
Thanks Mattd :-) On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:38:57 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Re: End of the IRS?? At 12:00 AM 1/8/2002 -0500, Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never quite understood how the amendment-not-ratified-properly-in-1913 argument is supposed to play out. If this were 1915 and we suddenly realized that there was some funny business going on, that would be one thing. But much has changed in the last 90 or so years. Courts have allowed the federal government to seize power not granted by the Constitution (and, in some cases, strictly prohibited by it). Booze prohibition required a constitutional amendment; drug prohibition wouldn't. All the more reason to go on a mindless killing spree. So even if someone were to prove that the 16th Am. wasn't quite kosher, what would stop the courts from saying -- it wasn't necessary? No but it would provide whatever moral basis one needs to terminate the vermin with extreme prejudice. What's needed are a few terminally ill militia minded souls to give up their last few weeks for the cause. I know I wouldn't hesitate. Maybe an anon cash pool, collected after the fact, to support these patriots' families could be used to offer additional incentive. When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty --- Thomas Jefferson -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Nov-L: Prosecutors rule Rainbow Farm Deaths justified (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:16:22 -0800 From: Nora Callahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nov-L: Prosecutors rule Rainbow Farm Deaths justified http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2002/jan/07/010705072.html January 07, 2002 Prosecutor: Police Acted Properly CASSOPOLIS, Mich. (AP) - The FBI and Michigan State Police were justified when they shot and killed two men at a campground known for its advocacy of marijuana use, a prosecutor said in a report released Monday. The standoff at Rainbow Farm began Aug. 31 when Tom Crosslin, 46, skipped a court date relating to drug and weapons charges and allegedly set fire to buildings on his farm, which High Times magazine once rated one of the nation's premier marijuana-smoking spots. Cass County Sheriff's deputies arrived and surrounded the farm, and were joined later by the FBI and Michigan State Police. Three days after the standoff began and negotiations had failed, Crosslin left the farm's main house, armed with a rifle, to get food and supplies from a neighbor's farm. On his way back to his house, he spotted an agent in the woods and raised his rifle, Cass County Prosecutor Scott Teter said. Two agents fired at Crosslin, killing him. Rolland Rohm, 28, who was Crosslin's business partner, remained in the main house. The next morning, after Rohm had agreed to surrender, the main house began burning, Teter said. Thirty minutes later, Rohm ran out of the house carrying a rifle and wearing black face paint. Teter said Rohm spotted a Michigan National Guard light armored vehicle and pointed his rifle at two guardsmen. Two Michigan State Police snipers nearby in the woods fired at Rohm and killed him. In both cases, Teter said, the shooters were protecting themselves or others. The Rohm and Crosslin families said through a spokesman Monday that they rejected the findings. We think that Teter is playing fast and loose with the truth, spokesman Bill McMaster said. There are two unexplained homicides caused by 120 police with snipers, tanks and helicopters. -- = *** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.*** -- The November Coalition, founded in 1997 is a 501 (c) (3) nonprofit organization, your gifts are tax deductible. You can send your donation to: The November Coalition 795 South Cedar Colville, WA 99114 November-L is a voluntary mailing list of the November Coalition. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.november.org/lists/ or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the command unsubscribe
Joe Sixpacks looks at Digicash
http://www.postget.com/get/article.php?newsid=80606 -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: End of the IRS??
Department of Justice U.S. Assistant Attorney Dan Bryant and Congressman Roscoe Bartlett (MD) signed a written agreement on July 20, 2001, for a recorded public hearing at which DOJ representatives will officially answer specific legal charges challenging the jurisdiction of the IRS and the illegal enforcement of U.S. income tax laws against U.S. citizens. IRS Commissioner Charles Rossotti has committed IRS representatives to participate. Since they have decided to officially answer, it is obvious that it doesn't matter. They are either going to maintain that ratification was irrelevent, or that an act once recognized is taken as fact even if false (i.e., Shrubs ascedancy comes to mind). Does anyone really believe they are going to say Oops! You're right, we aren't constitutional, so we're just going to disband.??? Um, yeah. Right... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: Future Gnu's
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Bill Stewart wrote: At 07:24 PM 01/03/2002 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spare your breath. The only way to shut up someone with a mental condition is to kick him off the list, to leave the list, or use filtering. Can't we just kick him: period? What you do on your own time is your business :-) Meanwhile, it's an open list, Easy there Bill. I specifically ignored the suggestion that he be kicked off the list. If there's anything you should know by know, it's that such a proposal would be *totally* out of character for me. and procmail, Eudora, Outlook, Pine, and probably even Netscape have mail filters, so you can auto-ignore people you don't want to see. Please note that (as I have stated a long time ago), procmail and mattd have long since been acquainted ;-) Or you can encourage them by replying to all their posts, so they'll keep on ranting. Your choice Note that _I_ do not reply to his stuff, as I never see it directly. To make a long story short Bill, what I *meant* was *exactly* what I said, no more, and no less: Can't we just kick him: period?. The suggestion was to implant a foot in his ass - literally. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Future Gnu's
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Petro wrote: On Thursday, January 3, 2002, at 05:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spare your breath. The only way to shut up someone with a mental condition is to kick him off the list, to leave the list, or use filtering. Can't we just kick him: period? You mean physically? You mean *touch* him? Not with your Doc Martins! Aw shit, you're right... What a terrible thing to do to a shoe... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Snitches out themselves.Canarypunk stool pigeons,peterTrei a nd declan Mc Crapface.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Declan McCullagh wrote: Actually, has mattd/proffr ever claimed to be an informed poster? :) No. He's a _deformed_ poster. This guy is a living breathing poster for euthanasia. At least, as I think you said yesterday, CJ had much more flair, and a better understanding of things cypherpunkly. Besides, CJ is *cool*! Ah well. Procmail makes things much better. It has for me. -Declan -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: RE: Future Gnu's
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: If there's anything more annoying than a boring nut who takes up 30% of the list volume, it's a boring nut who takes up 30% of the list volume with plaigerized articles from other, much more creative and intelligent nuts. Procmail is your friend :-) -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: NTBugtraq author says virus authors terrorists
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Anonymous wrote: We need to do this, if for no other reason than to show it's possible (to track virus writers), Russ Cooper, editor of security news list NTBugtraq, said. Forget that it may be problematic to extradite the individual, or that they may be young, or claim to be doing 'research.' We need to catch them, and place them in a position whereby they are seen for what they are -- a terrorist, Cooper said. The cost to our businesses, not to mention our way of life, is simply too high to not pursue these individuals. This is _classic_ Russ Cooper (professional asshole). -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Independent News - American Taliban has no right to lawyer,insists White House
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=110994 You know I've heard of alot about this today, mostly gibberish which was at least cleared up by the above link. Thanks. I find myself in an interesting position WRT John Walker. I admire him for having the strength of his convictions, and volunteering to fight for the side he believes is right, in the finest American tradition. But at the same time, I gotta tell you, I agree that he is a prisoner of war. Declared or not, let's face it, he was captured on an active field of battle - he's *not* a civilian, he's a combatant, and subject to the whims of the military. This has got to be one of the only times I can ever remember thinking that our military (much less Shrub) was actually *right* about something. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Independent News - American Taliban has no right tolawyer, insists White House
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not, let's face it, he was captured on an active field of battle - he's *not* a civilian, he's a combatant, and subject to the whims of the military. Tell that to the Jews... The _Jews_??? What the hell does this have to do with the fucking Jews? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Cypherpunk Ban
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, John Young wrote: I've checked CJ's probation conditions and there's no mention of cypherpunks, though POs can probably set any condition they like. Or can they? In NY, yes, and I have no reason to believe it would be any different anywhere else. For all intents and purposes, you are at the complete mercy of your P.O.. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Cypherpunk Ban
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Faustine wrote: Since when is it unusual to forbid parolees from associating with unsavory and immoral characters? Tarring everyone here with such a broad brush hardly seems appropriate. Just a quick reminder: you're as much here as anyone else is, even if you have fooled yourself into feeling a false sense of distance behind that remailer of yours. So unless you see yourself as unsavory and immoral, you might understand how some people here could be interested in an apology. Or at the very least an explicit clarification. The explanation is easy: you missed the implicit SARCASM /SARCASM -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Got Tanzanite?
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 05:03 PM 12/15/01 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it^s so important for Americans to know that the traffic in drugs finances the work of terror, sustaining terrorists -- (applause) -- that terrorists use drug profits to fund their cells to commit acts of murder. If you quit drugs, you join the fight against terror in America. And when I sampled a block of hash with KABUL in gold leaf in the 80's, I was being patriotic, helping to get rid of the Commies. A The good old days -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Poor little child pornographer
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote: ...the police are filthy liars. Um, yes, generally. Sure, there are exceptions, but as a rule that would be accurate. In fact they have gone so far as to plant child porn onto the computer in order to gain a conviction, in McCullagh's twisted narrative. So tell me Nomen, why do you find this so far-fetched? Missing from this tidy story is the cost-benefit analysis from the part of the evil policeman. He has supposedly committed a felony that could lead to decades in prison, just to avoid the difficulty of handing the computer back with an apology, which happens all the time in police work. Examples please? All the time? I have *never once* heard of such an act by an LEO, and my range of experience is both personal and anecdotal. The more usual act is that the insert agency here will first offer a plea, and if rebuffed, will decline to prosecute. Some time thereafter, the former defendant *may* be offered an opportunity to recover any goods siezed in the course of the investigation. Good luck on these items being worth anything if they _are_ returned. The real issue for cypherpunks is of course whether there is any connection between the child pornographer, Larry Benedict, and the local cypherpunk pedophile who uses the pseudonym Eric Michael Cordian. The Cordian nym has been discussed here before, and is pretty much acknowledged as being a composite, rather than a single individual. A few of the persons who comprise Cordian may be recognizable to those intimately familiar with them, however, as far as I am aware, the Cordian persona has never been demasked of it's various participants. Is it possible that Cordian and Benedict are one and the same? Anything is *possible*. It's possible that mattd is actually Gary Hart sans charisma. This type of idle speculation is truly pointless. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Nov-L: Supremes will interpret Apprendi in guns/drug offenses early2002 (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:51:33 -0800 From: Nora Callahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nov-L: Supremes will interpret Apprendi in guns/drug offenses early 2002 Supreme Court accepts challenge of federal gun crime GINA HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer (12-10) 11:23 PST WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court agreed Monday to consider the fairness of federal prison terms for inmates given longer sentences for using a firearm in their crimes. The question for justices: whether juries or judges should decide if someone brandished or discharged a weapon while committing a crime. In federal courts, juries must decide beyond a reasonable doubt if there was a crime. Whether a gun was involved can be settled separately by a judge, who uses a lesser standard of proof. The Supreme Court will review the case of William Joseph Harris, whose attorneys argued that the process violates defendants’ constitutional rights to due process and a jury trial. The weapon allegation does not have to be listed in an indictment. Congress requires longer prison sentences for people who use guns during violent crimes or drug dealing. The penalty for brandishing a weapon is at least seven years in prison and for discharging a gun is 10 years. Harris had pleaded guilty in 1999 to selling marijuana out of his pawn shop in Albemarle, N.C. He wore a pistol in a hip holster while at work for safety reasons, his lawyer told the court. Harris bragged during one sale that his homemade bullets could pierce a police officer’s armored jacket, according to government records. A judge convicted him of brandishing a gun while engaged in drug trafficking, then sentenced him to the mandatory seven years in prison. He could have received seven years even without that finding, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in rejecting his case. The Bush administration had urged the Supreme Court to also turn back Harris’ appeal, arguing that Congress in 1998 properly set penalties for criminals who use weapons. Justices decided to hear arguments in the case next year. Harris’ appeal relies on a 2000 Supreme Court ruling that overturned a New Jersey man’s sentence for a hate crime. Justices said a jury—not a judge— should have decided if Charles Apprendi was motivated by bias when he fired shots into the home of a black family. Apprendi, who is white, had gotten a longer sentence because a judge ruled it was a hate crime. Any fact that increases the penalty for a crime beyond the prescribed statutory maximum must be submitted to a jury, and proved beyond a reasonable doubt, the court said in the Apprendi case. Multiple appeals are pending or have come through the Supreme Court with similar arguments from defendants in drug cases. The case is Harris v. United States, 00-10666. -- The November Coalition, founded in 1997 is a 501 (c) (3) nonprofit organization, your gifts are tax deductible. You can send your donation to: The November Coalition 795 South Cedar Colville, WA 99114 November-L is a voluntary mailing list of the November Coalition. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.november.org/lists/ or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the command unsubscribe
Re: CDR: Re: Who Am I Anyway?
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: It is clear that whatever ID procedures were in effect, they were not effective. Many enlistees lied about their ages and got away with it. At the time, insufficient age was an open secret for these so afflicted. Warm bodies are what drive a war machine (even if they are only driving the remote Predators), and when bodies are scarce, and war is plentiful, niceties such as age become moot as long as everyone agrees. The concept of got away with it is meaningless in this context, as nobody was really trying to catch it. Marc de Piolenc Duncan Frissell wrote: At 05:10 PM 12/13/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: Which is beside your point. Your statement was that the government didn't do ANY identification for ANY of the soldiers in WWII. Patently wrong. Quit trying to change the rules in the middle of the game. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Nov-L: Narco News wins big! http://www.narconews.com/ (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:45:00 -0800 From: Nora Callahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nov-L: Narco News wins big! http://www.narconews.com/ November Coalition members: For about a year we have been covering this story in the Razor Wire and periodic updates on this elist. Nora Subj:Ross Regnart: Al Giordano won his case against Bank in Mexico now owned by Citibank Date: 12/8/2001 11:00:16 PM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ross) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] December 8, 2001 A Narco News Global Celebration! Narco News Beats Banamex! -- NY State Supreme Court Dismisses All Charges against Mario Menéndez, Al Giordano and The Narco News Bulletin -- Narco-Bankers Failed Despite Citigroup Merger -- Judge Paula Omansky: Free Speech Champion -- Narco-Lobbyists at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer and Feld humilliated; McLish filed an insufficient complaint -- NO Jurisdiction over authentic journalist Mario Menéndez, publisher and editor of the daily Por Esto! in Mexico -- Insufficient Complaint vs. Narco News and Al Giordano -- The Drug War Went on Trial And The Drug War Lost Stay Tuned for a Full Report: http://www.narconews.com/ Narco News offers its profound thanks to our readers for your support throughout this expensive attack on our free speech and press freedom. We thank the many people who donated large and small contributions to the Drug War on Trial defense fund to defeat the billionaires' abuse of the legal system to attack cyber-liberties. We extend our congratulations and gratitude to Mario Menéndez in Mérida, Yucatan, for his heroic work exposing corrupt white-collar drug traffickers and how the US DEA and other government agencies protect them. Mario started a movement. And this movement, to expose the real powers behind the corrupt war on drugs, and to end the drug prohibition from which they profit, will continue, and will triumph. We have not yet begun to fight! We offer our most profound thanks to Tom Lesser, counsel to Narco News, and everyone at Lesser, Newman, Souweine and Nasser of Northampton, Massachusetts, particularly Libby Spencer and Karen Thatcher, who beat the biggest lawyer-lobbyist firm in the world. Tom Lesser pitched a no-hitter against the Akin Gumpsters, the overpaid incompetents who struck out at every time at bat against the great civil liberties and free-speech barrister from Massachusetts. It is fair to say that without Tom Lesser, this immense victory would not have been possible. We also thank the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), who valiently filed an amicus brief on behalf of The Narco News Bulletin when other press freedom institutions ran from the fight. We also thank Marty Garbus, David Atlas and the team who defended Mario Menendez so ably, whose teamwork and experience made this defense unstoppable against the biggest of foes. And we thank all the many colleagues in authentic journalism who wrote about, spoke about, reported on and investigated this case, and in every single instance concluded what NY State Supreme Court Justice Paula Omansky has just ruled: This billionaire's lawsuit should never have been brought. We are sure we have more people to thank, but frankly, it is Saturday Night in a country called América, a night to celebrate. It's a world dance party, from Cochabamba to your town. But be assured: We are not done with the billionaire Plaintiffs in this case. They abused the court system and used their overpowering wealth to try to overpower us. And they failed. We will consult with our attorneys and co-defendant, and announce the next step in our legal strategy shortly. The aggressors will not be let off the hook. We have anticipated this victory, and now phase two begins. To repeat: ALL three charges against all three defendants in the case of Banco Nacional de Mexico (Banamex) vs. Mario Menéndez, Al Giordano and Narco News have been dismissed by the New York State Supreme Court. Impacting... From somewhere in a country called América, Al Giordano Publisher The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The November Coalition, founded in 1997 is a 501 (c) (3) nonprofit organization, your gifts are tax deductible. You can send your donation to: The November Coalition 795 South Cedar Colville, WA 99114 November-L is a voluntary mailing list of the November Coalition. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.november.org/lists/ or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the command unsubscribe
Re: CDR: Shopping for capitalism
You know these posts of yours are starting to feel a lot like another agent^H^H^H^H^H ~aimee provocatuer. Why do you even bother with these massive numbers of drivel? Do you honestly think this crap will start some kind of revolution or something? Do you honestly think that sending You have been acquired by OSD for death messages will do anything either for your cause (whatever the hell *that* could be), or for the views you claim to espouse? To put it in pure TimSpeak (just cause I love his expression), it's Off To The Cornfield For You. On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, mattd wrote: Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 19:11:05 +1100 From: mattd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mattd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Shopping for capitalism Shop Until you puke (english) by Laura Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] As the First Lady, I would like to commend you for encouraging the rabble to shop. While you are shopping, could one of you peasants pick something up for my lover, Osama? I have been hiding him out at the White House. George has caught us in bed on three occasions and I have told him that Osama is my minister and he is teaching me how to be saved. The beard really does tickle when he does kinky things to me. The Dummy is looking for Osama in Afghanistan so that he can pin the 9/11 hijackings on him and sentence him in a military tribunal. Osama says George is out of his fucking mind. I have to agree. Osama fathered the twins, you know. Amazing how corporate media won't cover any of this shit. www.thefuckingwhitehouse.gov killthepresidentkillthepresidentkillthepresidentkillthepresidentkillthepresidentkillkillkilll. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: slavery in New Jersey
Karsten, haven't you got better things to do? On 7 Dec 2001, Dr. Evil wrote: Date: 7 Dec 2001 05:39:24 - From: Dr. Evil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Re: slavery in New Jersey Could people on this list please learn to format stories that they post here so we can read them? How hard could that be? Thank you. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CJ sent you a Yahoo! Greeting
And a happy bomb day to you too CJ :-) Many happy _returns_ guffaw!!! On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 02:19:30 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CJ sent you a Yahoo! Greeting Surprise! You've just received a Yahoo! Greeting from CJ ([EMAIL PROTECTED])! To view this greeting card, click on the following Web address at anytime within the next 60 days. http://greetings.yahoo.com/greet/view?72CERHRSJ5FMT If that doesn't work, go to http://greetings.yahoo.com/pickup and copy and paste this code: 72CERHRSJ5FMT Enjoy! The Yahoo! Greetings Team - Yahoo! Greetings is a free service. If you'd like to send someone a Yahoo! Greeting, you can do so at http://greetings.yahoo.com/ Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://rd.yahoo.com/mktg/greetings/txt/confirmation/tagline/?http://personals.yahoo.com -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
eCash reported morbidly wounded
http://fuckedcompany.com/ Cashed Rumor has it eCash.net will be closing down any day now... aquisition fell through, around 40 people soon-to-be jobless. When: 12/4/2001 Company: eCash.net Severity: 100 - new hall of fame inductee! -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
eCash reported mortally wounded...
Reposted as the first one bounced no route to host boggle: http://fuckedcompany.com/ Cashed Rumor has it eCash.net will be closing down any day now... aquisition fell through, around 40 people soon-to-be jobless. When: 12/4/2001 Company: eCash.net Severity: 100 - new hall of fame inductee! -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: MD5 (was Re: Antivirus software will ignore FBI spyware: solutions)
size or checksum changes. Hidden files are trivial to use, though many utilities ignore their hiddenness, Let's not forget the NT alternate data streams feature. This is where almost anything can be held, and no known virus scanner can touch it. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Einstein.ssz.com down hard...
Here's the current network traceroute to einstein.ssz.com:
1 64.71.128.30 (64.71.128.30) 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms
2 gige-g0-0.gsr12008.pao.he.net (216.218.130.7) 2 ms 3 ms 3 ms
3 209.213.211.165 (209.213.211.165) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms
4 rif15.pal001bd01.yipes.com (66.54.194.117) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms
5 ge-0-0-0.pal001jp01.yipes.com (209.50.34.184) 201 ms 3 ms 3 ms
6 500.Gig2-0.GW4.PAO1.ALTER.NET (157.130.214.197) 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms
7 124.ATM3-0.XR1.PAO1.ALTER.NET (146.188.148.90) 6 ms 6 ms 43 ms
8 0.so-0-0-0.XL1.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.73) 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms
9 0.so-3-0-0.TL1.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.53.250) 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms
10 0.so-7-0-0.TL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.10.13) 83 ms 46 ms 46 ms
11 0.so-7-0-0.XL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.194) 47 ms 46 ms 49 ms
12 0.so-4-0-0.XR1.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.101.254) 46 ms 46 ms 47 ms
13 185.ATM7-0.XR1.DFW4.ALTER.NET (152.63.96.145) 47 ms 47 ms 46 ms
14 195.ATM4-0.GW2.NOL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.96.113) 65 ms 65 ms 65 ms
15 aperianT3tx-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.146.154) 78 ms 76 ms 78 ms
16 router6.realtime.net (204.181.160.33) 79 ms 80 ms 79 ms
17 router6.realtime.net (204.181.160.33) 80 ms 80 ms 79 ms
18 DS3-R6-1e-n.realtime.net (205.238.159.101) 121 ms
DS3-R6-1d-n.realtime.net (205.238.159.105) 115 ms DS3-R6-1e-n.realtime.net
(205.238.159.101) 113 ms
19 * * DS3-R6-1d-n.realtime.net (205.238.159.105) 104 ms !H
20 DS3-R6-1b-n.realtime.net (205.238.159.93) 79 ms !H *
DS3-R6-1a-n.realtime.net (205.238.159.77) 92 ms !H
Result for einstein.ssz.com; modeset: {AS-Query , ICMP-Query ,
SOA-Owner-Query }:
traceroute.exe to einstein.ssz.com (204.96.2.99), 30 hops max, 38 byte
packets
1 router.redhat.com (199.183.24.225) [AS2551] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 59.027 ms
77.755 ms 69.665 ms
2 Loopback0.GW3.RDU1.ALTER.NET (137.39.5.13) [AS701]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 59.605 ms 117.787 ms 59.462 ms
3 178.ATM2-0.XR2.DCA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.162.70) [AS702] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
69.686 ms 58.206 ms 59.635 ms
4 294.at-1-1-0.XR2.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.33.34) [AS701] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
109.485 ms 137.772 ms 79.653 ms
5 0.so-1-3-0.XL2.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.35.118) [AS701] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
79.520 ms 107.823 ms 59.530 ms
6 152.63.0.234 (152.63.0.234) [AS701] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 69.654 ms 109.072
ms 69.673 ms
7 0.so-6-0-0.TL2.HOU7.ALTER.NET (152.63.39.182) [AS701] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
69.615 ms 58.851 ms 79.739 ms
8 0.so-6-1-0.XL2.HOU7.ALTER.NET (152.63.101.194) [AS701] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
89.632 ms 88.875 ms 59.782 ms
9 O.so-4-0-0.XR2.HOU7.ALTER.NET (152.63.102.14) [AS701] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
69.723 ms 58.917 ms 59.742 ms
10 192.ATM7-0.GW2.AUS1.ALTER.NET (152.63.100.69) [AS701] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
89.690 ms 128.910 ms 119.693 ms
11 msiholding-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.142.210) [AS701]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 139.646 ms 79.649 ms 119.775 ms
12 router6.realtime.net (204.181.160.33) [AS2933] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 69.690
ms 70.628 ms 71.939 ms
13 router6.realtime.net (204.181.160.33) [AS2933] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64.000
ms 64.076 ms 78.425 ms
14 DS3-R6-1d-n.realtime.net (205.238.159.105) [AS2933] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
83.948 ms DS3-R6-1e-n.realtime.net (205.238.159.101) [AS2933]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 91.603 ms DS3-R6-1b-n.realtime.net
(205.238.159.93) [AS2933] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 90.330 ms
15 DS3-R6-1d-n.realtime.net (205.238.159.105) [AS2933] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
103.427 ms !H DS3-R6-1e-n.realtime.net (205.238.159.101) [AS2933]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 90.685 ms !H *
--
Yours,
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...
Re: dead reporter found in motel
On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, mattd wrote: snip That's the first thing you have ever written that was genuinely worth reading! Keep practicing, and in three or four hundred years you could be the GreatGreatReallyGreatGrandsonOfGomez(tM). -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: It's for the sake of the Chiiiiildren.
On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: http://www.banscrewdrivers.com We hope that by ultimately banning the sale and use of screwdrivers, we can make the world a little bit safer, and increase compassion towards victims of screwdriver crimes and accidents. $100.00 says 9 out of ten people who hit the site will not understand what is being discussed :-( Nevertheless, this site *rocks*! -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: CNN.com - Bush defends tribunals, saying 'we're at war'-November 29, 2001
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: Dubbya should be impeached, and both he and Asscruft arrested for treason. While I agree with you in principal, it would not be an easy thing to do under the [constituional] circumstances. The problem is that the law is well settled that a president may invoke these powers during times of _declared_ war. Although congress declined a formal declaration, they did provide a defacto one with their support and authorization of military force ditty. It is unlikely that *any* supreme court, much less the sitting one, would deny Shrub the argument that the country is in a state of war, and therefore has the requisite autority as the sitting CIC. The more plausible avenue for legal attack on these two rodents would lie in the 1200 or so persons detained without even the most basic of constitutional protections, as well as the current decision to monitor [formerly] privileged [attorney-client] communications. Also look for legal fodder in upcoming anti-terror legislation aimed at citizens, rather than at foreign residents. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Celebrate Bill of Rights Day in Denver (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:43:43 -0700 From: John Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Celebrate Bill of Rights Day in Denver This ought to be fun: http://www.stanley2002.org/borday.htm Join Rick on Bill of Rights Day and defend your right to keep and bear arms. Civil disobedience is the only way to secure our Constitutional rights against an unconstitutional government. At high noon on December 15, 2001, at the state Capitol in Denver, Rick will be wearing a loaded pistol in a holster in plain sight for all to see -- per his Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. Rick Stanley, Libertarian candidate for U.S. Senate, will be arrested by the Denver police for insisting that his Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms cannot be infringed. [...]
Re: CDR: Re: CNN.com - Bush defends tribunals, saying 'we're at war'-November 29, 2001
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with you in principal, it would not be an easy thing to do under the [constituional] circumstances. The problem is that the law is well settled that a president may invoke these powers during times of _declared_ war. Although congress declined a formal declaration, they did provide a defacto one with their support and authorization of military force ditty. It That in itself isn't constitutional. Congress MUST!!! vote for, otherwise it is an automatic nay. You are arguing mere _facts_, I am arguing the _reality_ :-) The _fact_ that something [many things right now] are unconstitutional is completely irrelevant if nobody is willing to enforce the constitution which is being violated. In short, if nobody _does anything about it_, constitutionality is irrelevant. Let's face it, the majority of the people I know, both IRL and here, bitch and moan about the kind of egregious behaviour Shrub and his Band Of Traveling Fascists are so good at, but how many of us have (to put it into TimSpeak) done anything about those who need killing? Anyone who has not taken positive action, and this includes both me and you Jim, does not actually deserve the protections afforded by that scrap of parchment you have managed to memorize. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Rumors of the death of Cypherpunks are greatly exaggerated
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, David Honig wrote: Um, Jim, despite the slump, there still plenty of free lowbrow sites for Joe Random to start a mailing list for anything, so Tim's financial status is irrelevent. But Joe Random isn't a Cypherpunks Leader... Oh my god! The Cypherpunks have a *leader*? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: More damage to liberty than I expected.
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And when victory was well in hand, they shut down not merely havenco, Looks OK to me: Tracing route to havenco.com [207.106.3.14] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms r01.fl.datapacket.net [208.195.14.225] 2 10 ms10 ms10 ms loopback0.gw8.orl1.alter.net [137.39.8.117] 320 ms40 ms20 ms 165.at-1-0-0.xr1.atl1.alter.net [152.63.86.170] 410 ms20 ms20 ms 100.at-1-0-0.tr1.atl1.alter.net [146.188.232.82] 520 ms31 ms30 ms 109.at-5-0-0.tr1.dca6.alter.net [146.188.141.58] 630 ms30 ms30 ms 0.so-4-0-0.xr1.dca6.alter.net [152.63.11.102] 730 ms30 ms30 ms 0.so-1-3-0.xl1.dca6.alter.net [152.63.35.114] 830 ms31 ms30 ms pos6-0.br3.dca6.alter.net [152.63.38.117] 930 ms30 ms40 ms 204.255.174.74 1030 ms60 ms31 ms mae-east-gsr.dc-core.netaxs.net [207.106.31.26] 11 120 ms 280 ms 310 ms mae-east.dc-core.netaxs.net [207.106.31.29] 1230 ms30 ms40 ms dc-l3.dc-core.fddi0-0-100m.netaxs.net [207.106.127.102] 1340 ms40 ms40 ms phl-l3.phl-core.h3-0-45m.netaxs.net [207.106.127.129] 1430 ms30 ms40 ms l3-core1-oc3.sdfc.phl.netaxs.net [207.106.3.246] 1560 ms41 ms40 ms core1-cnsh-gige-1.cnsh.phl.netaxs.net [207.106.0.10] 1640 ms40 ms40 ms ns1.havenco.com [207.106.3.14] Trace complete. The www site is up too. Possibly you misunderstood their temporary outage? --digsig James A. Donald -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: Hey HavenCo!!! (was Re: CDR: More damage to...)
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: Think they'd host a CDR node? Is there a *need* for another CDR node? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: in praise of gold
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Petro wrote: On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 07:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Faustine wrote: Not all women are golddiggers. They're called 'old maids'. ALL women who are interested in a 'relationship' are 'golddiggers' in the sense they want to 'change' the other party. Nothing like a good across the board generalization, huh Jim? Well, I hate to be in the position of defending Jimbo, but he's right--in a sense, but not just about women. Where does the desire for a relationship translate into the desire to change the other party? I'd be willing to bet (should there be a way of proving it to my satisfaction) that in every relationship, one party would like to change AT LEAST 2 things about the other party. Then I guess we're down the minutae of what is a relationship, and what is change... Of course, this then makes every person who gets into any kind of relationship a gold digger. The American colloquialism Golddigger != Relationship participant who would like to effect changes in the other engaging party(s). The Goldigger term commonly refers to a woman who marries or engages in highly personal (not _necessarily_ sexual, but the inference is a common one) long term relationships for the accrual of cash and property, rather than any actual interest in the partner(s). Think long-term hookers. Think Mary Elizabeth Terranson :-) Who was she? It's nice to see you're not bitter ;-/ Why do you assume it was a she? chuckles Because Jim's comment specifically referred to women. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: fuel injected firearm
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:30:20 -0800, Eric Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 04:32:51PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the shootingpunks on the list heard of constructing a firearm from something akin to a internal combustion chamber? You can buy one at Home Depot! It's called a cordless nailer. Powered by fuel cells which are probably propane. The Porter-Cable Bammer is one model. I'll check into it. My thought was to create a very high rate of fire, simple and effective full auto weapon for caseless ammo. In the US, at the federal level and at most of the state levels, I believe this would qualify as a firearm, as the expansion of hot gasses are responsible for forward motion of a projectile. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: inet-one name servers/domain down? (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:58:01 -0800 (PST) From: Guan Sin Ong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: inet-one name servers/domain down? Thanks for bringing the issue up. However, it seems an intermittent problem at your end, that I cannot detect the same situation as you all had described. Let me know if it still persists. Perhaps supply me more details. I suspect it could be my service provider's fault. I shall start monitoring its service quality closely now. Regards, GS --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:43:29 -0600 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CDR: CP archive problem? According to the registry, their record was modified yesterday (24 November). In addition, I am unable to reach either of their authoritative name servers - their upstream may in fact be off the air completely. With the recent change in their record, it is possible they made changes to their dns server addresses, and the new addressed were botched in the process (something I went through several weeks ago - it appears to be quite difficult to get the new registrars to properly move dns hosts). I guess the next step would be email to their admins, and possibly a NANOG request... On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Steve Schear wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:23:30 -0800 From: Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: CP archive problem? I've been trying to access http://www.inet-one.com for two days and have getting DNS errors. Anyone else on @home with the same trouble? Might be a good time to switch to alternate root servers. steve -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1
Re: CDR: Antivirus software will ignore FBI spyware: solutions
While it's of little help to M$ lusers, those of us in the *nix world can use CDROM based filesystems for all but the user data. Yes, you may be compromised, but it won't change any code (which is definitely *not* to say that you aren't in danger from loss of passphrases, etc.) - at least on sensitive machines. I have been using this technique of FreeBSD systems for a little under two years now (yes, you need to build several copies of your root system :). -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Sixpack Encryption Email client
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Eric Murray wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 05:12:38PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave a little bit of thought about what an encrypted email client should look like for joe sixpack to use. Here's how the DEFAULT behavior would work: When you install the software, it generates a public-private key pair. It saves your private key right there on your hard disk unencrypted, no tricky passphrase to remember. It then uploads your private key to some central server. you meant uploads your public key to some central server. Actually, this being Joe Sixpack, I believe private key was correct - gotta make sure he can recover it after he loses it ;-) -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: CP archive problem?
According to the registry, their record was modified yesterday (24 November). In addition, I am unable to reach either of their authoritative name servers - their upstream may in fact be off the air completely. With the recent change in their record, it is possible they made changes to their dns server addresses, and the new addressed were botched in the process (something I went through several weeks ago - it appears to be quite difficult to get the new registrars to properly move dns hosts). I guess the next step would be email to their admins, and possibly a NANOG request... On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Steve Schear wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:23:30 -0800 From: Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: CP archive problem? I've been trying to access http://www.inet-one.com for two days and have getting DNS errors. Anyone else on @home with the same trouble? Might be a good time to switch to alternate root servers. steve -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Rigorous and objective (if at first...)
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Petro wrote: On Saturday, November 17, 2001, at 07:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (in my perfectly humble hate-group inspired opinion :-). It's also great fun watching Jeff and company pretend to be even dumber than your average @home luser. What makes you think they're pretending? *Never*, _ever_, underestimate the Enemy. JeffCo are an awful lot of [mostly bad] things, but truly stupid is not one of them. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
MI5 Plan to detect terrorists
Right out of a Monty Python piece... http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/06/30/ngerb30.xml MI5's secret plan to recruit gerbils as spycatchers By Michael Smith, Defence Correspondent (Filed: 30/06/2001) MI5 considered using a team of highly-trained gerbils to detect spies and terrorists flying into Britain during the 1970s, Sir Stephen Lander, the service's director-general, revealed yesterday. The plan was based on the ability of gerbils to detect a rise in adrenalin from changes in the scent of human sweat. Sir Stephen said the Israelis had put the idea into practice, placing gerbil cages to the side of security checks for travellers at Tel Aviv airport. A suitably placed fan wafted the scent of the suspect's sweat into the cage. The gerbils were trained by Pavlovian response to press a lever if they detected increased adrenalin, receiving food as a reward. The system was never put into practice by MI5 because the Israelis were forced to abandon it after they found that the gerbil could not tell the difference between terrorists and passengers who were scared of flying. Speaking at a conference at the Public Record Office in Kew, Sir Stephen said MI5 archives contained a complete volume on the idea - which was based on Canadian research for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police - written in the 1970s. Although Dame Stella Rimington made a practice of speaking publicly in an attempt to change MI5, yesterday's Missing Dimension conference was only the second occasion that Sir Stephen has done so. The conference marks a new PRO exhibition on espionage, Shaken Not Stirred, starting today, which includes exhibits on a number of spies including Mata Hari and a spy paid the equivalent of 6.5 million by King George I to spy on the Stuarts. The Missing Dimension refers to the fact that most histories are written before intelligence files have been released and so omit a crucial element of what occurred and why. Sir Stephen admitted that it would be a long time before MI5 would be able to release details of its Cold War activities. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: RBL turf wars (was: ABOVE.NET BLOCKING ORBZ!) (fwd)
Oh the irony! People are pissed off that someone is censoring the censors! Go above.net! Go!!! They get my vote 100% J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Roger Marquis wrote: Check this out, I can't get to Orbz's website anymore (and I suspect you can't either): We can't either. Attached is a letter from a customer forwarded to our upstream (another above.net victim/ISP). If Above.Net wants to shed customers like a duck sheds water these filters will surely have that effect. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CDR: Re: Declan;Comped scribbler and bottom feeder?
Perhaps you have pets who could use the money? I would be happy to pay in Meow Mix :-) On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:25:57 -0500 From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Re: Declan;Comped scribbler and bottom feeder? I suppose that charging admission would be the free-market approach to suicide. Not sure what I'd do with the money after death, tho. -Declan On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 12:01:11PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I watch? On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:09:30 -0500 From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mattd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Re: Declan;Comped scribbler and bottom feeder? Yes, you found me out. I moderated a panel this week at the Cato Institute, a (gasp!) libertarian-leaning think tank. I suppose I shall go slit my wrists now. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
FW: [EMED-L] anthrax clinical description (fwd)
I believe some of you will have an interest in this. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:08:48 + From: axel ellrodt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: EMED-L -- a list for emergency medicine practitioners. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMED-L] anthrax clinical description http://www.sfmu.org/documents/biotox/jernigan.pdf http://www.sfmu.org/documents/biotox/jernigan.pdf 26 pages about the first ten USA cases
[EMED-L] abuse of ed's (fwd)
Another not-so-benign view of national ID cards, brought to you by lamer with a license. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:31:27 -0500 From: owen bunnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: EMED-L -- a list for emergency medicine practitioners. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EMED-L] abuse of ed's I HAVE READ WITH GREAT DISMAY CONCERNING THE ABUSE OF OUR NATIONS ED'S WHICH BY THE WAY HAS INCREASED THE WORK LOAD FOR US ALL. THERE IS ABUSE BY MILLIONS EVERYDAY WHO KNOW THEY CAN GO TO THE ED WITH FALSE CREDENTIALS, LIE ABOUT WHO THEY ARE, OR JUST REFUSE TO PAY THE FEE AT THERE PHYSICIANS OFFICE, WITH THE RESULT BEING THAT WE AS ED PHYSICIANS GET THE ULTIMATE 'DUMP'. THIS WILL NEVER GET FIXED UNTIL THERE IS SOME FORM OF REQUIRED NATIONAL ID CARD THAT YOU MUST PRESENT UPON ARRIVAL TO THE ED WHICH VERIFIES WHO YOU ARE WITH A UPDATED CORRECT ADDRESS, AND THE APPROVAL BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW THIS TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT THREAT OF SUIT BY THE PATIENT. PATIENTS HAVE RIGHTS YES, BUT NOT THE RIGHT TO ABUSE OR COMMIT FRAUD. __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ To unsubscribe, send the command SIGNOFF EMED-L to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDR: RE: FBI wants to believe in domestic terrorists.
[EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: If the anthrax attack is internal, then they are in charge and they get to spy on all us right wing extremist hate groups. I may be a hate group, but I am NOT a _right wing_ hate group. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
RE: America the Beautiful
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Aimee Farr wrote: Welcome back Gordon. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
