RE: Mystification of Identity: You Say Yusuf, I Say Youssouf...

2004-09-28 Thread John Kelsey
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Many Cypherpunks view the need to take up crypto arms to stem off an 
Orwellian, hyper-evil and hyper-competent dictatorship. I'm thinking a more 
likely (and no less threatening) scenario is one like Brazil (ie, the 
movie).

Yep.  It turns out that broad and scary police powers don't make you any smarter or 
wiser or more careful, they just make it easier for you to insist on obedience and 
stifle complaints.  Post 9/11, flight attendants and airline employees have more 
authority to order passengers around and deny people boarding, but they're still the 
same people they were on 9/10, they're presumably only marginally better at spotting 
terrorists (at least not obviously Arab-looking terrorists).  They just have more 
power, and fewer consequences when they screw up.

..

-TD

--John Kelsey



RE: Individual Geopolitical Darwin Awards

2004-09-28 Thread Tyler Durden
Half-dozen?
And virgins are WAY overrated.
-TD

From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Individual Geopolitical Darwin Awards
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:33:56 -0700
At 10:00 AM 9/27/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
Don't forget, the World Trade Center management was on the Intercom
trying
to tell everyone to Remain inside the Building...It's safest Inside
the
Building.

Fuck. Here on Wall Street I'm a dead man.
If you stay in NYC or DC, you are an individual winner of a geopolitical
Darwin Award.  You can collect along with your half-dozen virgins.
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Re: John Abizaid needs termination

2004-09-28 Thread Bill Stewart
Variaola allegedly wrote:

 Saw general Abizaid on the news.  He was so obviously
 either experiencing pharmaceutically-induced nystagmus or
 reading from a teleprompter it wasn't funny.  Methinks
 he's a robot, or taking too many go-pills.   Lets hear
 2K dead by the elections.  We'll settle for less if they're in DC.

Isn't he the guy who keeps sending emails about his corrupt Nigerian uncle's
poor widow who needs to smuggle $18B in unspent funds out of Iraq
and wants your bank account number so you can help?

(OK, no.  http://www.johnabizaid.com/ has his bio and pointers
that look like they're supposed to be his writings,
except there are broken html links to apaam.org,
the Association of Patriotic Arab Americans in the Military or something.)
He's apparently campaigning for the position of military governor of Iraq.
At least he does speak Arabic.





Individual Geopolitical Darwin Awards

2004-09-28 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:00 AM 9/27/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
Don't forget, the World Trade Center management was on the Intercom
trying
to tell everyone to Remain inside the Building...It's safest Inside
the
Building.

Fuck. Here on Wall Street I'm a dead man.

If you stay in NYC or DC, you are an individual winner of a geopolitical

Darwin Award.  You can collect along with your half-dozen virgins.






John Abizaid needs termination

2004-09-28 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Saw general Abizaid on the news.  He was so obviously
either experiencing pharmaceutically-induced nystagmus or
reading from a teleprompter it wasn't funny.  Methinks
he's a robot, or taking too many go-pills.   Lets hear
2K dead by the elections.  We'll settle for less if they're
in DC.







RE: John Abizaid needs termination

2004-09-28 Thread Tyler Durden
Methinks he's a robot,
Isn't that from Philip K Dick's The Penultimate Truth?
Hum. Any chance there really is no war in Iraq and we're just being cowered 
into producing items for the ultra-rich living outside of Bunker USA?

-TD

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Subject: John Abizaid needs termination
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:27:43 -0700
Saw general Abizaid on the news.  He was so obviously
either experiencing pharmaceutically-induced nystagmus or
reading from a teleprompter it wasn't funny.  Methinks
he's a robot, or taking too many go-pills.   Lets hear
2K dead by the elections.  We'll settle for less if they're
in DC.
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Re: Mystification of Identity: You Say Yusuf, I Say Youssouf...

2004-09-28 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:53 PM 9/27/04 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
and preventing you from flying means you can't carry out your
Clever New Hijacking Plan, such as converting that small guitar
into a set of six piano-wire garrotes or mixing that

Organophosphates will still make it onto a plane, have been used
in Japan, and might be better used in stationary, more populated and
still dense places in the US.

Also, no one has really tested whether pilots will suffer 300 passengers

to die.  But there are groovier places to deploy the human pesticides,
jets
are so old-school.

And then there's the ultimate soft targets, grammar schools.

Those who lay with israelis die like israelis.  Karma ain't just for
breakfast anymore.  Birds, roost, home.

BTW, I don't think TATP would excite the nitrate-sniffing autodogs..
just light your shoe in the restroom next time for Allah's sake..

Who knew the fall of Rome II would be televised?







Their Crisis, Our Leviathan

2004-09-28 Thread R. A. Hettinga

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Their Crisis, Our Leviathan

by Gregory Bresiger

http://www.mises.org/fullstory.aspx?Id=1621[Posted September 28, 2004]

 The circus is coming to your town soon. Maybe, I’m getting old, but I just
can’t get very excited about the clowns anymore.

Yup, it’s political season again and those bothersome pols, still lusting
for the votes that put or keep themselves and their pals in office, will be
in our faces until the nonsense is over. 

Time for the same tired two parties to trot out the same moronic messages
that challenge the credulity of anyone with a healthy three figure IQ. 

Time for the same politicos, with solutions to every problem under the
sun, to promise endless new programs, the expansion of existing failed
programs, yet also swear that tax cuts will also be on the way once they’re
given more control over our lives. 

Time for the professional political class—both the ruling Republicans and
Democrats—to go through the idiocy of a so-called competitive campaign and
the pretense of supposedly differing philosophies.

Time for those hopelessly inane tube debates. Time for the republic’s
fortunes to turn on such crucial points as how a candidate looks on the
idiot box, which candidate shaved
betterhttp://by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/EN/rte___90801.asp#_ftn1[1]
or which slick candidate can come up with the best crackpot idea, an idea
that later usually proves to be a figment of his imagination (the
nonexistent missile gap flim flam of the 1960 Kennedy-Nixon presidential
campaign is one
examplehttp://by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/EN/rte___90801.asp#_ftn2[2]). 

Time for a presidential debate commission, stacked with only Republican and
Democrat party hacks, to insist that debates cannot ever include any third
parties anytime because it would be too dangerous for the average American
to hear a different idea or a now radical viewpoint such as less government.

Time for John Kerry to promise to balance the budget, yet not propose one
major cut in a federal program.

Time for George Bush to claim his opposition to big government, yet not
mention how he made tens of millions of dollars in a shady deal that
included government subsidized construction of a new stadium for the Texas
Rangers baseball team, a sleazy transaction in which the powers of eminent
domain were perverted to make Bush, then owner of the team, even
richer.http://by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/EN/rte___90801.asp#_ftn3[3]

Time again for the pols—or least some of the smarter of these shysters—to
include a Munich-like promise to get Washington off our backs. Time for
the weak-minded among the voters to play the role of Neville Chamberlain
(Here it is. Herr Hitler signed it, said Chamberlain of Hitler’s signed
promise to leave everyone alone in 1938. That was a promise with all the
credibility of Bill Clinton’s middle-class tax cut promise or Lying Baines
Johnson’s 1964 promise not to send more troops to Vietnam or Ronald
Reagan’s 1980 campaign promise to close down the departments of Energy and
Education or. . . .). 

Time for our masters to duck the question that most economically illiterate
journalists aren’t inclined to ask: Who pays for government writ large and
its endless expansions in peacetime, wartime, and anytime in the middle?

As one listens to the perpetual seekers of office, with their vows of
delivering utopia on earth provided we give them our votes, remember this
in case you become a bit wobbly and suspect that you’re ready to swallow
one or more of their monkeyshines—Washington’s world saving doesn’t come
cheap. 

Never has. Never will. 

Such is the nature of leviathan government. It is classical liberals such
as Professor Robert Higgs (See his wonderful
bookhttp://by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/EN/rte___90801.asp#_ftn4[4])
and the mid-Victorian radical Richard
Cobdenhttp://by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/EN/rte___90801.asp#_ftn5[5]who
remind us that democratic governments follow predictable patterns.

They stumble or run into crisis after crisis. Then the government insists
that this justifies it arrogating more power. That, of course, always must
include a bigger bit of your property. The latter is accomplished through
higher state, federal, or municipal taxes or the use of the stealth tax.
The latter is the insidious inflation dodge, a piece of legerdemain that
governments have been using over centuries to take bigger and bigger bites
of your property. 

Then these democratic nations—which, by the way, increasingly contain more
and more people who want no part of the political process—later concede the
crisis was nonexistent or overstated. 

How to fuck with airports - a 1 step guide for (Redmond) terrorists.

2004-09-28 Thread Sunder
Q: How do you cause an 800-plane pile-up at a major airport?
A: Replace working Unix systems with Microsoft Windows 2000!

Details: http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=2275


--Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos---
 + ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.  /|\
  \|/  :They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country /\|/\
--*--:and our people, and neither do we. -G. W. Bush, 2004.08.05 \/|\/
  /|\  : \|/
 + v + :War is Peace, freedom is slavery, Bush is President.
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Re: How to fuck with airports - a 1 step guide for (Redmond) terrorists.

2004-09-28 Thread Steve Furlong
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 14:37, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
 The servers are timed to shut down after 49.7 days of use in order to 
 prevent a data overload, a union official told the LA Times.
 That would be 49.71026961805556 days, or (curiously 
 enough) 4294967295 (0x) milliseconds.  Known problem with Win95 
 ('cept they call Win95 a server).

How the heck do they keep a Win95 machine up for 49 days? I think 1 day
is a more realistic MTBF.




Re: How to fuck with airports - a 1 step guide for (Redmond) terrorists.

2004-09-28 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
Sunder wrote:
Q: How do you cause an 800-plane pile-up at a major airport?
A: Replace working Unix systems with Microsoft Windows 2000!
Details: http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=2275
 

Got to love the spin...
The servers are timed to shut down after 49.7 days of use in order to 
prevent a data overload, a union official told the LA Times.
That would be 49.71026961805556 days, or (curiously 
enough) 4294967295 (0x) milliseconds.  Known problem with Win95 
('cept they call Win95 a server).

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Re: Mystification of Identity: You Say Yusuf, I Say Youssouf...

2004-09-28 Thread Bill Stewart
At 06:03 PM 9/25/2004, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Gilmore, et al., are right, as always.
If you've been all-but cavity-searched -- okay, virtually
cavity-searched, given the state of modern X-Ray airport passenger
scanning technology -- and you don't have a weapon, exactly *how* is
knowing *who* you are going to affect your ability to hijack an airplane?
Of course it doesn't.   However, if there are known potential hijackers
who travel under their True Names or Known Aliases,
and if there's a list of them that can be checked against,
knowing the name you're using can validate whether you might be one of them,
and preventing you from flying means you can't carry out your
Clever New Hijacking Plan, such as converting that small guitar
into a set of six piano-wire garrotes or mixing that
liquid oxygen shoe sole with rum to form an explosive,
and it prevents you from using previously undetected explosives
in your luggage or whatever.
There are several reasons you might divert a plane in this environment -
- to spank the airline for not being careful enough
about checking the list, independent of any hijacking risk.
- to cover the ass of the person who put the wrong spelling on the list,
even though the US Enemies Airline Blacklist supposedly has
the passport numbers of Official US Enemies and therefore should
have been able to get the spelling from Yousouff's UK passport.
- to prevent a potential hijacker from hijacking the plane during the
descent phase of the flight, in case they're planning to
crash it into Washington instead of London, or to reduce the time
that the plane is in the air, in case there's a timed-release bomb
in the luggage.  (Ideally you'd like to prevent them and their
luggage from getting on at all, but it was too late for that,
and if there's a pressure-triggered luggage bomb you've already lost.)
- to maintain the pretense that the people on the list are
potential hijackers or airplane suicide bombers,
as opposed to people who might sing politically inconvenient music
or give talks that encourage other potential US Enemies
or give the money to hire other people to do the dangerous bits.
- to be extremely conservatively overcautious because you've
discovered that you mistakenly let someone on the plane
and the version of the Enemies List that you have access to
doesn't indicate which people are actively dangerous passengers
of the potential hijacker/bomber type,
as opposed to political Enemies who you could arrange to
harass at Customs after they've arrived,
and you don't have the time to find out why they're there
before landing (hey, it took Teddy Kennedy three tries),
so you throw the Better Safe Than Sorry dice and decide
you can spin the PR Fearmongering if you're oversensitive.
I'd guess that the working-level decision was the latter conservative 
knee-jerk,
though the decision-makers preferred to think of it as the third case.
Conservatism is easier when _you're_ not going to have to
pay for the extra airplane costs or deal with the other passengers who
miss their airline connections because you stuck them in Bangor,
which are somebody else's problem.

The entertaining questions are when they figured out that he was
the well-known Cat Stevens and not just the generic-Moslem-sounding Mr. Islam,
and whether there are pre-defined policies about landing them in Bangor
when they ostensibly had enough advance notice to land them in
Newfoundland or Labrador instead, which aren't US territory.