Re: [datameet] Help in extracting Mumbai's Development Plan 2034 as Shapefile

[Naraina Damle]

Hello, 

Some thoughts after reading the various comments. 

I have worked on similar data for Delhi about 10 -12 years ago. 
Things might have changed now. But I guess the following. 

NIC (National Informatics Center) started with the original base data. They 
have very very strict data sharing policies. 

The vector data in based on NIC servers. They serve it to Municipalities 
and strictly monitor the usage. 
Municipalities draw on top of the base layers. The condition is that they 
can not even share that Drawn data with anyone outside a designated ROOM in 
soft copy.

If they find violations they will stop serving Vectors (in case of Delhi 
DJB they were serving vector base layer data to DJB) and only serve 
Rasterized base data. 

I earned some money in a project to RE-Digitise DJB's own drawn layers from 
Paper Prints to give to a consultant.

 this is much much better that Paper prints. 

Digitise the Area of Interest.

(based on my guesswork)






 



On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 5:57:32 PM UTC+5:30, akshit Shah wrote:
>
> I checked the scrape-ability of layers on Arch GIS map server, but there 
> too the landuse plan is uploaded as an image file. seems we need someone 
> from inside to help us get vector layers.
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Devdatta Tengshe  > wrote:
>
>> This is coming from an ArcGIS Based Service at: 
>> https://agsmaps.mcgm.gov.in/server/rest/services/Development_Plan_2034/MapServer/
>>
>> It is possible to scrape the data from here, but we need to know what 
>> layers to scrape. Unfortunately, their naming convention is non-existent, 
>> and unless we have some detailed knowledge on what each layer means, it 
>> will be a futile exercise, even if we get the data.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Devdatta
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 1:23 AM akshit Shah > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks Nikhil VJ for underlining the fact that we are still far away 
>>> from free data regime prevailing in western countries. I already approached 
>>> head of Development Plan department at MCGM and their typical reply was 
>>> that "we can not share this data due to security reasons !!, even to share 
>>> this with MMRDA (Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority) we have 
>>> signed non-disclosure bond and stuff. 
>>>
>>> I don't understand what threat can a publicly available development plan 
>>> could pose to authorities !!!  just because its in a vector format. 26/11 
>>> happened even before the GIS era in India. Rationally, the amount of help 
>>> in urban planning research through such dataset is far more greater than 
>>> any security threat (that you guys may think of). but it seems our 
>>> bureaucrats doesn't understand such things (may be because 
>>> Architecture/Planning is not available as an optional subject).
>>>
>>> Coming to the extraction point, there are multiple long routes to 
>>> achieve the objective of getting vector shapes. I have tried one of them by 
>>> geo-referencing the one PDF tile using AutoCAD Map & then exporting it 
>>> layer by layer to QGIS. but I could not achieve accurate scale and 
>>> geo-referencing. Also the task is too tedious considering the scale of 
>>> city, the development plan is divided into more than 150 tiles which will 
>>> take too long to accomplish.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, every concerned individual can populate landuse data in 
>>> OSM for a specific region, this way it can be made available in vector. But 
>>> the manual input for metadata is also a time consuming challenge.
>>>
>>> Lastly we need some other idea to cut short this task, as authority is 
>>> not going to handover it so easily.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:42 PM Nikhil VJ >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Great to know they're finally moving from PDFs to zoomable maps! One 
 thing I had really hoped for was for people to pin-point exact locations 
 in 
 the DP and talk about that, instead of just making grand reports with 
 overall stats.

 So again the data you see on this site is coming from a map server that 
 pre-renders the data and sends stuff across as broken down image tiles.

 Precisely to prevent site visitors from scraping the original vector 
 data.

 I'm guessing the bureaucracy would have consented to this move (from 
 PDFs to actual map) only under strict conditions that it must not be 
 scrape-able.

 All the best.. if somebody does find a way to break through though, I 
 can imagine the whole thing will be taken down and that will be 
 regrettable, because this is a really good leg-up for the urban planning 
 sector in India and I'd like to see the same happen in Pune as well. 
 Between PDFs and this I prefer this even if both options aren't open.

 A longer approach could be to share examples from Europe/US of cities 
 releasing such full data openly and persuade/petition these folks with 
 that. Again, all the best for that. And when one 

Re: [datameet] Help in extracting Mumbai's Development Plan 2034 as Shapefile

[akshit Shah]

I checked the scrape-ability of layers on Arch GIS map server, but there
too the landuse plan is uploaded as an image file. seems we need someone
from inside to help us get vector layers.

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Devdatta Tengshe 
wrote:

> This is coming from an ArcGIS Based Service at:
> https://agsmaps.mcgm.gov.in/server/rest/services/Development_Plan_2034/MapServer/
>
> It is possible to scrape the data from here, but we need to know what
> layers to scrape. Unfortunately, their naming convention is non-existent,
> and unless we have some detailed knowledge on what each layer means, it
> will be a futile exercise, even if we get the data.
>
> Regards,
> Devdatta
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 1:23 AM akshit Shah 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks Nikhil VJ for underlining the fact that we are still far away from
>> free data regime prevailing in western countries. I already approached head
>> of Development Plan department at MCGM and their typical reply was that "we
>> can not share this data due to security reasons !!, even to share this with
>> MMRDA (Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority) we have signed
>> non-disclosure bond and stuff.
>>
>> I don't understand what threat can a publicly available development plan
>> could pose to authorities !!!  just because its in a vector format. 26/11
>> happened even before the GIS era in India. Rationally, the amount of help
>> in urban planning research through such dataset is far more greater than
>> any security threat (that you guys may think of). but it seems our
>> bureaucrats doesn't understand such things (may be because
>> Architecture/Planning is not available as an optional subject).
>>
>> Coming to the extraction point, there are multiple long routes to
>> achieve the objective of getting vector shapes. I have tried one of them by
>> geo-referencing the one PDF tile using AutoCAD Map & then exporting it
>> layer by layer to QGIS. but I could not achieve accurate scale and
>> geo-referencing. Also the task is too tedious considering the scale of
>> city, the development plan is divided into more than 150 tiles which will
>> take too long to accomplish.
>>
>> Alternatively, every concerned individual can populate landuse data in
>> OSM for a specific region, this way it can be made available in vector. But
>> the manual input for metadata is also a time consuming challenge.
>>
>> Lastly we need some other idea to cut short this task, as authority is
>> not going to handover it so easily.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:42 PM Nikhil VJ  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Great to know they're finally moving from PDFs to zoomable maps! One
>>> thing I had really hoped for was for people to pin-point exact locations in
>>> the DP and talk about that, instead of just making grand reports with
>>> overall stats.
>>>
>>> So again the data you see on this site is coming from a map server that
>>> pre-renders the data and sends stuff across as broken down image tiles.
>>>
>>> Precisely to prevent site visitors from scraping the original vector
>>> data.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing the bureaucracy would have consented to this move (from
>>> PDFs to actual map) only under strict conditions that it must not be
>>> scrape-able.
>>>
>>> All the best.. if somebody does find a way to break through though, I
>>> can imagine the whole thing will be taken down and that will be
>>> regrettable, because this is a really good leg-up for the urban planning
>>> sector in India and I'd like to see the same happen in Pune as well.
>>> Between PDFs and this I prefer this even if both options aren't open.
>>>
>>> A longer approach could be to share examples from Europe/US of cities
>>> releasing such full data openly and persuade/petition these folks with
>>> that. Again, all the best for that. And when one day some municipal
>>> corporation in India does do this, we should congratulate and praise them
>>> like anything so that others are encouraged too.
>>>
>>> Yet another approach, and given the target area is Mumbai, this might
>>> actually have a chance: get a price from the bureaucrats for releasing this
>>> data publicly, and collectively crowdfund it. Just consider the combined
>>> purses of all real estate companies and high profile ngo's operating in
>>> this region that would want this. If someone from the relevant govt office
>>> is seeing this, c'mon guys, give a quote!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Nikhil VJ
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 21:51 Aditi Nair  wrote:
>>>
 I would also be interested in this accessing this information.

 On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:13 AM akshit Shah 
 wrote:

> Dear Datameet Memebrs,
>
> I want your help in extracting Development Plan 2034 of Mumbai from
> their web portal . I want the
> whole Landuse with plot boundaries and its metadata (CTS no., DP Remarl,
> Reservation, etc.) in GSI as a vector shapefile. Can anyone please help me
> in doing so?
>
> 

Re: [datameet] Help in extracting Mumbai's Development Plan 2034 as Shapefile

[Nikhil VJ]

Hi Abraham,

This screencast might help.

https://youtu.be/bD80VSO1qiQ

Regards
Nikhil

On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 5:35:59 PM UTC+5:30, Abraham Daniel Raj 
wrote:
>
> Hi Nikhil Vj,
>
>
> After turning on a layer on the map. How to catch and save the response. 
> Can you inform?
>
>
>
> With regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:31 PM Nikhil VJ > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, the second website shared 1991 DP:
>> http://www.loginmumbai.org/map.html 
>> 
>> .. is vector!
>>
>> Right-click > Inspect > Network > XHR . Turn on a layer on the map. Catch 
>> and save the response.
>>
>> Here's one site that helps convert the json to csv:
>> https://json-csv.com/
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Nikhil VJ
>> https://nikhilvj.co.in
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Devdatta Tengshe > > wrote:
>>
>>> This is coming from an ArcGIS Based Service at: 
>>> https://agsmaps.mcgm.gov.in/server/rest/services/Development_Plan_2034/MapServer/
>>>
>>> It is possible to scrape the data from here, but we need to know what 
>>> layers to scrape. Unfortunately, their naming convention is non-existent, 
>>> and unless we have some detailed knowledge on what each layer means, it 
>>> will be a futile exercise, even if we get the data.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Devdatta
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 1:23 AM akshit Shah >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Thanks Nikhil VJ for underlining the fact that we are still far away 
 from free data regime prevailing in western countries. I already 
 approached 
 head of Development Plan department at MCGM and their typical reply was 
 that "we can not share this data due to security reasons !!, even to share 
 this with MMRDA (Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority) we have 
 signed non-disclosure bond and stuff. 

 I don't understand what threat can a publicly available development 
 plan could pose to authorities !!!  just because its in a vector format. 
 26/11 happened even before the GIS era in India. Rationally, the amount of 
 help in urban planning research through such dataset is far more greater 
 than any security threat (that you guys may think of). but it seems our 
 bureaucrats doesn't understand such things (may be because 
 Architecture/Planning is not available as an optional subject).

 Coming to the extraction point, there are multiple long routes to 
 achieve the objective of getting vector shapes. I have tried one of them 
 by 
 geo-referencing the one PDF tile using AutoCAD Map & then exporting it 
 layer by layer to QGIS. but I could not achieve accurate scale and 
 geo-referencing. Also the task is too tedious considering the scale of 
 city, the development plan is divided into more than 150 tiles which will 
 take too long to accomplish.

 Alternatively, every concerned individual can populate landuse data in 
 OSM for a specific region, this way it can be made available in vector. 
 But 
 the manual input for metadata is also a time consuming challenge.

 Lastly we need some other idea to cut short this task, as authority is 
 not going to handover it so easily.

 On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:42 PM Nikhil VJ >>> > wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Great to know they're finally moving from PDFs to zoomable maps! One 
> thing I had really hoped for was for people to pin-point exact locations 
> in 
> the DP and talk about that, instead of just making grand reports with 
> overall stats.
>
> So again the data you see on this site is coming from a map server 
> that pre-renders the data and sends stuff across as broken down image 
> tiles.
>
> Precisely to prevent site visitors from scraping the original vector 
> data.
>
> I'm guessing the bureaucracy would have consented to this move (from 
> PDFs to actual map) only under strict conditions that it must not be 
> scrape-able.
>
> All the best.. if somebody does find a way to break through though, I 
> can imagine the whole thing will be taken down and that will be 
> regrettable, because this is a really good leg-up for the urban planning 
> sector in India and I'd like to see the same happen in Pune as well. 
> Between PDFs and this I prefer this even if both options aren't open.
>
> A longer approach could be to share examples from Europe/US of cities 
> releasing such full data openly and persuade/petition these folks with 
> that. Again, all the best for that. And when one day some municipal 
> corporation in India does do this, we should congratulate and praise them 
> like anything so that others are encouraged too.
>
> Yet another approach, and given the target area is Mumbai, this might 
> actually have a chance: get a price from the bureaucrats for releasing 
> this 
> data publicly, and collectively 

Re: [datameet] Help in extracting Mumbai's Development Plan 2034 as Shapefile

[Abraham Daniel Raj]

Hi Nikhil Vj,


After turning on a layer on the map. How to catch and save the response.
Can you inform?



With regards,
Daniel


On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:31 PM Nikhil VJ  wrote:

> Hi, the second website shared 1991 DP:
> http://www.loginmumbai.org/map.html 
> .. is vector!
>
> Right-click > Inspect > Network > XHR . Turn on a layer on the map. Catch
> and save the response.
>
> Here's one site that helps convert the json to csv:
> https://json-csv.com/
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Nikhil VJ
> https://nikhilvj.co.in
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Devdatta Tengshe 
> wrote:
>
>> This is coming from an ArcGIS Based Service at:
>> https://agsmaps.mcgm.gov.in/server/rest/services/Development_Plan_2034/MapServer/
>>
>> It is possible to scrape the data from here, but we need to know what
>> layers to scrape. Unfortunately, their naming convention is non-existent,
>> and unless we have some detailed knowledge on what each layer means, it
>> will be a futile exercise, even if we get the data.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Devdatta
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 1:23 AM akshit Shah 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks Nikhil VJ for underlining the fact that we are still far away
>>> from free data regime prevailing in western countries. I already approached
>>> head of Development Plan department at MCGM and their typical reply was
>>> that "we can not share this data due to security reasons !!, even to share
>>> this with MMRDA (Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority) we have
>>> signed non-disclosure bond and stuff.
>>>
>>> I don't understand what threat can a publicly available development plan
>>> could pose to authorities !!!  just because its in a vector format. 26/11
>>> happened even before the GIS era in India. Rationally, the amount of help
>>> in urban planning research through such dataset is far more greater than
>>> any security threat (that you guys may think of). but it seems our
>>> bureaucrats doesn't understand such things (may be because
>>> Architecture/Planning is not available as an optional subject).
>>>
>>> Coming to the extraction point, there are multiple long routes to
>>> achieve the objective of getting vector shapes. I have tried one of them by
>>> geo-referencing the one PDF tile using AutoCAD Map & then exporting it
>>> layer by layer to QGIS. but I could not achieve accurate scale and
>>> geo-referencing. Also the task is too tedious considering the scale of
>>> city, the development plan is divided into more than 150 tiles which will
>>> take too long to accomplish.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, every concerned individual can populate landuse data in
>>> OSM for a specific region, this way it can be made available in vector. But
>>> the manual input for metadata is also a time consuming challenge.
>>>
>>> Lastly we need some other idea to cut short this task, as authority is
>>> not going to handover it so easily.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:42 PM Nikhil VJ  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Great to know they're finally moving from PDFs to zoomable maps! One
 thing I had really hoped for was for people to pin-point exact locations in
 the DP and talk about that, instead of just making grand reports with
 overall stats.

 So again the data you see on this site is coming from a map server that
 pre-renders the data and sends stuff across as broken down image tiles.

 Precisely to prevent site visitors from scraping the original vector
 data.

 I'm guessing the bureaucracy would have consented to this move (from
 PDFs to actual map) only under strict conditions that it must not be
 scrape-able.

 All the best.. if somebody does find a way to break through though, I
 can imagine the whole thing will be taken down and that will be
 regrettable, because this is a really good leg-up for the urban planning
 sector in India and I'd like to see the same happen in Pune as well.
 Between PDFs and this I prefer this even if both options aren't open.

 A longer approach could be to share examples from Europe/US of cities
 releasing such full data openly and persuade/petition these folks with
 that. Again, all the best for that. And when one day some municipal
 corporation in India does do this, we should congratulate and praise them
 like anything so that others are encouraged too.

 Yet another approach, and given the target area is Mumbai, this might
 actually have a chance: get a price from the bureaucrats for releasing this
 data publicly, and collectively crowdfund it. Just consider the combined
 purses of all real estate companies and high profile ngo's operating in
 this region that would want this. If someone from the relevant govt office
 is seeing this, c'mon guys, give a quote!

 Regards
 Nikhil VJ

 On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 21:51 Aditi Nair  wrote:

> I would also be interested in this accessing 

Re: [datameet] Help in extracting Mumbai's Development Plan 2034 as Shapefile

[Devdatta Tengshe]

This is coming from an ArcGIS Based Service at:
https://agsmaps.mcgm.gov.in/server/rest/services/Development_Plan_2034/MapServer/

It is possible to scrape the data from here, but we need to know what
layers to scrape. Unfortunately, their naming convention is non-existent,
and unless we have some detailed knowledge on what each layer means, it
will be a futile exercise, even if we get the data.

Regards,
Devdatta


On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 1:23 AM akshit Shah  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks Nikhil VJ for underlining the fact that we are still far away from
> free data regime prevailing in western countries. I already approached head
> of Development Plan department at MCGM and their typical reply was that "we
> can not share this data due to security reasons !!, even to share this with
> MMRDA (Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority) we have signed
> non-disclosure bond and stuff.
>
> I don't understand what threat can a publicly available development plan
> could pose to authorities !!!  just because its in a vector format. 26/11
> happened even before the GIS era in India. Rationally, the amount of help
> in urban planning research through such dataset is far more greater than
> any security threat (that you guys may think of). but it seems our
> bureaucrats doesn't understand such things (may be because
> Architecture/Planning is not available as an optional subject).
>
> Coming to the extraction point, there are multiple long routes to
> achieve the objective of getting vector shapes. I have tried one of them by
> geo-referencing the one PDF tile using AutoCAD Map & then exporting it
> layer by layer to QGIS. but I could not achieve accurate scale and
> geo-referencing. Also the task is too tedious considering the scale of
> city, the development plan is divided into more than 150 tiles which will
> take too long to accomplish.
>
> Alternatively, every concerned individual can populate landuse data in OSM
> for a specific region, this way it can be made available in vector. But the
> manual input for metadata is also a time consuming challenge.
>
> Lastly we need some other idea to cut short this task, as authority is not
> going to handover it so easily.
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:42 PM Nikhil VJ  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Great to know they're finally moving from PDFs to zoomable maps! One
>> thing I had really hoped for was for people to pin-point exact locations in
>> the DP and talk about that, instead of just making grand reports with
>> overall stats.
>>
>> So again the data you see on this site is coming from a map server that
>> pre-renders the data and sends stuff across as broken down image tiles.
>>
>> Precisely to prevent site visitors from scraping the original vector data.
>>
>> I'm guessing the bureaucracy would have consented to this move (from PDFs
>> to actual map) only under strict conditions that it must not be scrape-able.
>>
>> All the best.. if somebody does find a way to break through though, I can
>> imagine the whole thing will be taken down and that will be regrettable,
>> because this is a really good leg-up for the urban planning sector in India
>> and I'd like to see the same happen in Pune as well. Between PDFs and this
>> I prefer this even if both options aren't open.
>>
>> A longer approach could be to share examples from Europe/US of cities
>> releasing such full data openly and persuade/petition these folks with
>> that. Again, all the best for that. And when one day some municipal
>> corporation in India does do this, we should congratulate and praise them
>> like anything so that others are encouraged too.
>>
>> Yet another approach, and given the target area is Mumbai, this might
>> actually have a chance: get a price from the bureaucrats for releasing this
>> data publicly, and collectively crowdfund it. Just consider the combined
>> purses of all real estate companies and high profile ngo's operating in
>> this region that would want this. If someone from the relevant govt office
>> is seeing this, c'mon guys, give a quote!
>>
>> Regards
>> Nikhil VJ
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 21:51 Aditi Nair  wrote:
>>
>>> I would also be interested in this accessing this information.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:13 AM akshit Shah 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Datameet Memebrs,

 I want your help in extracting Development Plan 2034 of Mumbai from
 their web portal . I want the
 whole Landuse with plot boundaries and its metadata (CTS no., DP Remarl,
 Reservation, etc.) in GSI as a vector shapefile. Can anyone please help me
 in doing so?

 Alternatively, the Development Plan 1991 of Mumbai has been hosted by
 UDRI on their portal . Can we
 extract this as well?

 Thank you in advance.

 --
 Warm Regards,

 *Ar. Akshit Shah*
 | M.Tech Student, RCGSIDM, IIT-KGP |
 | B.Arch, VNIT Nagpur |
 

Re: [datameet] Help in extracting Mumbai's Development Plan 2034 as Shapefile

[akshit Shah]

Hi,

Thanks Nikhil VJ for underlining the fact that we are still far away from
free data regime prevailing in western countries. I already approached head
of Development Plan department at MCGM and their typical reply was that "we
can not share this data due to security reasons !!, even to share this with
MMRDA (Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority) we have signed
non-disclosure bond and stuff.

I don't understand what threat can a publicly available development plan
could pose to authorities !!!  just because its in a vector format. 26/11
happened even before the GIS era in India. Rationally, the amount of help
in urban planning research through such dataset is far more greater than
any security threat (that you guys may think of). but it seems our
bureaucrats doesn't understand such things (may be because
Architecture/Planning is not available as an optional subject).

Coming to the extraction point, there are multiple long routes to
achieve the objective of getting vector shapes. I have tried one of them by
geo-referencing the one PDF tile using AutoCAD Map & then exporting it
layer by layer to QGIS. but I could not achieve accurate scale and
geo-referencing. Also the task is too tedious considering the scale of
city, the development plan is divided into more than 150 tiles which will
take too long to accomplish.

Alternatively, every concerned individual can populate landuse data in OSM
for a specific region, this way it can be made available in vector. But the
manual input for metadata is also a time consuming challenge.

Lastly we need some other idea to cut short this task, as authority is not
going to handover it so easily.

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:42 PM Nikhil VJ  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Great to know they're finally moving from PDFs to zoomable maps! One thing
> I had really hoped for was for people to pin-point exact locations in the
> DP and talk about that, instead of just making grand reports with overall
> stats.
>
> So again the data you see on this site is coming from a map server that
> pre-renders the data and sends stuff across as broken down image tiles.
>
> Precisely to prevent site visitors from scraping the original vector data.
>
> I'm guessing the bureaucracy would have consented to this move (from PDFs
> to actual map) only under strict conditions that it must not be scrape-able.
>
> All the best.. if somebody does find a way to break through though, I can
> imagine the whole thing will be taken down and that will be regrettable,
> because this is a really good leg-up for the urban planning sector in India
> and I'd like to see the same happen in Pune as well. Between PDFs and this
> I prefer this even if both options aren't open.
>
> A longer approach could be to share examples from Europe/US of cities
> releasing such full data openly and persuade/petition these folks with
> that. Again, all the best for that. And when one day some municipal
> corporation in India does do this, we should congratulate and praise them
> like anything so that others are encouraged too.
>
> Yet another approach, and given the target area is Mumbai, this might
> actually have a chance: get a price from the bureaucrats for releasing this
> data publicly, and collectively crowdfund it. Just consider the combined
> purses of all real estate companies and high profile ngo's operating in
> this region that would want this. If someone from the relevant govt office
> is seeing this, c'mon guys, give a quote!
>
> Regards
> Nikhil VJ
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 21:51 Aditi Nair  wrote:
>
>> I would also be interested in this accessing this information.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:13 AM akshit Shah 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Datameet Memebrs,
>>>
>>> I want your help in extracting Development Plan 2034 of Mumbai from
>>> their web portal . I want the
>>> whole Landuse with plot boundaries and its metadata (CTS no., DP Remarl,
>>> Reservation, etc.) in GSI as a vector shapefile. Can anyone please help me
>>> in doing so?
>>>
>>> Alternatively, the Development Plan 1991 of Mumbai has been hosted by
>>> UDRI on their portal . Can we
>>> extract this as well?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Warm Regards,
>>>
>>> *Ar. Akshit Shah*
>>> | M.Tech Student, RCGSIDM, IIT-KGP |
>>> | B.Arch, VNIT Nagpur |
>>> 
>>> *Indian Institute of Technology*
>>> Kharagpur, West Bengal,
>>> 721302, India
>>> +91 3222 255221
>>> IIT KGP  | Linkedin
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [datameet] Help in extracting Mumbai's Development Plan 2034 as Shapefile

[Nikhil VJ]

Hi,

Great to know they're finally moving from PDFs to zoomable maps! One thing
I had really hoped for was for people to pin-point exact locations in the
DP and talk about that, instead of just making grand reports with overall
stats.

So again the data you see on this site is coming from a map server that
pre-renders the data and sends stuff across as broken down image tiles.

Precisely to prevent site visitors from scraping the original vector data.

I'm guessing the bureaucracy would have consented to this move (from PDFs
to actual map) only under strict conditions that it must not be scrape-able.

All the best.. if somebody does find a way to break through though, I can
imagine the whole thing will be taken down and that will be regrettable,
because this is a really good leg-up for the urban planning sector in India
and I'd like to see the same happen in Pune as well. Between PDFs and this
I prefer this even if both options aren't open.

A longer approach could be to share examples from Europe/US of cities
releasing such full data openly and persuade/petition these folks with
that. Again, all the best for that. And when one day some municipal
corporation in India does do this, we should congratulate and praise them
like anything so that others are encouraged too.

Yet another approach, and given the target area is Mumbai, this might
actually have a chance: get a price from the bureaucrats for releasing this
data publicly, and collectively crowdfund it. Just consider the combined
purses of all real estate companies and high profile ngo's operating in
this region that would want this. If someone from the relevant govt office
is seeing this, c'mon guys, give a quote!

Regards
Nikhil VJ

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 21:51 Aditi Nair  wrote:

> I would also be interested in this accessing this information.
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:13 AM akshit Shah 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Datameet Memebrs,
>>
>> I want your help in extracting Development Plan 2034 of Mumbai from their
>> web portal . I want the whole
>> Landuse with plot boundaries and its metadata (CTS no., DP Remarl,
>> Reservation, etc.) in GSI as a vector shapefile. Can anyone please help me
>> in doing so?
>>
>> Alternatively, the Development Plan 1991 of Mumbai has been hosted by
>> UDRI on their portal . Can we
>> extract this as well?
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>>
>> --
>> Warm Regards,
>>
>> *Ar. Akshit Shah*
>> | M.Tech Student, RCGSIDM, IIT-KGP |
>> | B.Arch, VNIT Nagpur |
>> 
>> *Indian Institute of Technology*
>> Kharagpur, West Bengal,
>> 721302, India
>> +91 3222 255221
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Re: [datameet] Help in extracting Mumbai's Development Plan 2034 as Shapefile

[Aditi Nair]

I would also be interested in this accessing this information.

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:13 AM akshit Shah  wrote:

> Dear Datameet Memebrs,
>
> I want your help in extracting Development Plan 2034 of Mumbai from their
> web portal . I want the whole
> Landuse with plot boundaries and its metadata (CTS no., DP Remarl,
> Reservation, etc.) in GSI as a vector shapefile. Can anyone please help me
> in doing so?
>
> Alternatively, the Development Plan 1991 of Mumbai has been hosted by UDRI
> on their portal . Can we extract
> this as well?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> --
> Warm Regards,
>
> *Ar. Akshit Shah*
> | M.Tech Student, RCGSIDM, IIT-KGP |
> | B.Arch, VNIT Nagpur |
> 
> *Indian Institute of Technology*
> Kharagpur, West Bengal,
> 721302, India
> +91 3222 255221
> IIT KGP  | Linkedin
> 
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[datameet] Help in extracting Mumbai's Development Plan 2034 as Shapefile

[akshit Shah]

Dear Datameet Memebrs,

I want your help in extracting Development Plan 2034 of Mumbai from their
web portal . I want the whole
Landuse with plot boundaries and its metadata (CTS no., DP Remarl,
Reservation, etc.) in GSI as a vector shapefile. Can anyone please help me
in doing so?

Alternatively, the Development Plan 1991 of Mumbai has been hosted by UDRI
on their portal . Can we extract this
as well?

Thank you in advance.

-- 
Warm Regards,

*Ar. Akshit Shah*
| M.Tech Student, RCGSIDM, IIT-KGP |
| B.Arch, VNIT Nagpur |

*Indian Institute of Technology*
Kharagpur, West Bengal,
721302, India
+91 3222 255221
IIT KGP  | Linkedin


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