Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
I agree that a way forward would be to use a well-defined ontology, and set up themappings from infoboxes to map into that ontologyinstead of the DBpedia ontology. This would require, I think, a more powerfulmapping technology, one that can use arbitrary combinations of the infobox information to determine the correct classes to map an infobox to. However, another way forward would be to continue to use a small ontology, essentially a fixed version of the DBpedia ontology. A small ontology is better here, I think, than a large ontology, because a large ontology presents too many choices for mappings. However, it may be that a large ontology is requiredbecause each language needs slightly different targets for many of its infoboxes. peter On 04/15/2014 07:16 PM, Mike Bergman wrote: Hi Peter, My observation is that crowdsourced knowledge bases (namely, Wikipedia, DBpedia, schema.org, Freebase, etc) can be excellent sources for the description and characterization of things and entities, but the structures that may be derived from them will by definition be incoherent at the TBox level. Exhortations to many contributors to be more coherent at a structural level are not likely, I believe, to meet with much success. The motivations of contributors and editors are most often local within the KB space. Thus, in microcosm, many parts of these KBs can look pretty good, but when the scope extends more broadly across the KB, the coherence breaks down. There aren't many advocates for structure-wide coherence. As an advocate for structure-wide coherence and one who is not afraid to wade into the fray, perhaps you can work some useful magic. I'm dubious, but I truly wish you luck. Our approach, which we have been working on for some years episodically, with another episode due shortly, is to use a coherent structure (UMBEL, in our approach, which is a faithful, simplified subset of Cyc) to provide the TBox, and then to find defensible ways to map the entity and concept information in crowdsourced KBs to that structure. We have been talking about this for so long that it is time for us to complete our initial development and put something forward that you and others can similarly scrutinize. We hope to have something useful by this summer. Thanks, Mike On 4/15/2014 6:55 PM, Patel-Schneider, Peter wrote: Hmm. Well, perhaps one could argue that there should be no hierarchy at all. Using the DBpedia ontology does commit you to a lot of things, many of them quite questionable. For example, in the DBpedia ontology churches are buildings, which is not true for many churches, and not even true for the physical location associated with many churches. This is one of the things that I think needs to be changed. peter On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote: I try not to get hung up on the idea of having one right hierarchy but assume most end users will need to interpret the types that exist in the way that makes sense for what they are doing. The idea of foaf:Agent, which is a superclass of both person and organization, is a powerful concept because of properties shared by these two things; for instance, either can be a party to a lawsuit. Even in music you could say a brand like Michael Jackson is a team effort. On the other hand some people want :Flutist to be a subclass of :Person and it makes sense to say one person who plays the flute is a :Flutist but you can't say that a trio that all plays the flute is a :Flutist. Everybody has some theorem they expect the system to prove and they won't accept your axiom set unless you can prove their theorem with it. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Patel-Schneider, Peter peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com wrote: schema.org is controlled by the schema.org partners, Google, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex. Contributions from the community are accepted, but are vetted before being added to schema.org See http://schema.org for more information. One problem with alignment to schema.org is that the formal meaning of the schema.org ontology is unusual and not fully explained. peter On Apr 14, 2014, at 10:08 PM, 小出 誠二 seijikoi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter For eyes of ontologists, it is well known that DBpedia ontology is incorrect, but I have never check about the contents of schema.org. Thank you for the info. I am planning to correct trustable ontologies like schema.org, but I do not know how to revise or advice the contents of schema.org. Does anyone know it? Or does anyone have interest the portal sites of trustable ontologies? Seiji Koide -Original Message- From: Patel-Schneider, Peter [mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:50 PM To: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
On 4/15/14 8:55 PM, Patel-Schneider, Peter wrote: Hmm. Well, perhaps one could argue that there should be no hierarchy at all. Using the DBpedia ontology does commit you to a lot of things, many of them quite questionable. For example, in the DBpedia ontology churches are buildings, which is not true for many churches, and not even true for the physical location associated with many churches. This is one of the things that I think needs to be changed. peter You can triangulate around these issues via other TBoxes that provide context lenses into DBpedia. Example, using YAGO which ultimately connects to DBpedia via an owl:sameAs relation in the ABox. [1] http://lod.openlinksw.com/c/G2D6HBO -- YAGO lenses on Church [2] http://lod.openlinksw.com/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyago-knowledge.org%2Fresource%2FFreewill_Baptist_Church-Peoples_Baptist_Church-New_Hope_Churchgraph=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mpi-inf.mpg.de%2Fyago-naga%2Fyago%2Fdownload%2Fyago%2Fyago2s_ttl.7z -- actual owl:sameAs relation that has a DBpedia entity as its object [3] http://lod.openlinksw.com/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FFreewill_Baptist_Church-Peoples_Baptist_Church-New_Hope_Churchgraph=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mpi-inf.mpg.de%2Fyago-naga%2Fyago%2Fdownload%2Fyago%2Fyago2s_ttl.7z -- which basically indicates to me that we might even be missing some DBpedia data in our LOD Cloud cache since the DBpedia entity URI does indeed resolve to a DBpedia entity description document [4] http://lod.openlinksw.com/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FFreewill_Baptist_Church-Peoples_Baptist_Church-New_Hope_Churchsas=yesgraph=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mpi-inf.mpg.de%2Fyago-naga%2Fyago%2Fdownload%2Fyago%2Fyago2s_ttl.7z -- here I've enables owl:sameAs inference context (via sas=yes added to the URL) which brings us full cycle (notice all the objects of the rdf:type relation, inherited from YAGO, dynamically). I always look at this entire Linked Data affair as a useful jigsaw puzzle game re. TBox, RBox, and ABox. Anyway, your contributions are certainly going to be useful, in whatever form they take :-) Kingsley On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote: I try not to get hung up on the idea of having one right hierarchy but assume most end users will need to interpret the types that exist in the way that makes sense for what they are doing. The idea of foaf:Agent, which is a superclass of both person and organization, is a powerful concept because of properties shared by these two things; for instance, either can be a party to a lawsuit. Even in music you could say a brand like Michael Jackson is a team effort. On the other hand some people want :Flutist to be a subclass of :Person and it makes sense to say one person who plays the flute is a :Flutist but you can't say that a trio that all plays the flute is a :Flutist. Everybody has some theorem they expect the system to prove and they won't accept your axiom set unless you can prove their theorem with it. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Patel-Schneider, Peter peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com wrote: schema.org is controlled by the schema.org partners, Google, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex. Contributions from the community are accepted, but are vetted before being added to schema.org See http://schema.org for more information. One problem with alignment to schema.org is that the formal meaning of the schema.org ontology is unusual and not fully explained. peter On Apr 14, 2014, at 10:08 PM, 小出 誠二 seijikoi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter For eyes of ontologists, it is well known that DBpedia ontology is incorrect, but I have never check about the contents of schema.org. Thank you for the info. I am planning to correct trustable ontologies like schema.org, but I do not know how to revise or advice the contents of schema.org. Does anyone know it? Or does anyone have interest the portal sites of trustable ontologies? Seiji Koide -Original Message- From: Patel-Schneider, Peter [mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:50 PM To: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist The ontology says that MusicalArtist is a subclass of schema.org:MusicGroup. This seemed very odd to me, but then I looked at schema.org and noticed that schema.org:MusicGroup can also be for *solo* artists. However, MusicalArtist is for any musical artist, not just soloists. So this mapping still looks incorrect. peter -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech
Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
is unusual and not fully explained. peter On Apr 14, 2014, at 10:08 PM, 小出 誠二 seijikoi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter For eyes of ontologists, it is well known that DBpedia ontology is incorrect, but I have never check about the contents of schema.org. Thank you for the info. I am planning to correct trustable ontologies like schema.org, but I do not know how to revise or advice the contents of schema.org. Does anyone know it? Or does anyone have interest the portal sites of trustable ontologies? Seiji Koide -Original Message- From: Patel-Schneider, Peter [mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:50 PM To: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist The ontology says that MusicalArtist is a subclass of schema.org:MusicGroup. This seemed very odd to me, but then I looked at schema.org and noticed that schema.org:MusicGroup can also be for *solo* artists. However, MusicalArtist is for any musical artist, not just soloists. So this mapping still looks incorrect. peter -- Paul Houle Expert on Freebase, DBpedia, Hadoop and RDF (607) 539 6254paul.houle on Skype ontolo...@gmail.com -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion
Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
their theorem with it. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Patel-Schneider, Peter peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com wrote: schema.org is controlled by the schema.org partners, Google, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex. Contributions from the community are accepted, but are vetted before being added to schema.org See http://schema.org for more information. One problem with alignment to schema.org is that the formal meaning of the schema.org ontology is unusual and not fully explained. peter On Apr 14, 2014, at 10:08 PM, 小出 誠二 seijikoi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter For eyes of ontologists, it is well known that DBpedia ontology is incorrect, but I have never check about the contents of schema.org. Thank you for the info. I am planning to correct trustable ontologies like schema.org, but I do not know how to revise or advice the contents of schema.org. Does anyone know it? Or does anyone have interest the portal sites of trustable ontologies? Seiji Koide -Original Message- From: Patel-Schneider, Peter [mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:50 PM To: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist The ontology says that MusicalArtist is a subclass of schema.org:MusicGroup. This seemed very odd to me, but then I looked at schema.org and noticed that schema.org:MusicGroup can also be for *solo* artists. However, MusicalArtist is for any musical artist, not just soloists. So this mapping still looks incorrect. peter -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion
Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
schema.org is controlled by the schema.org partners, Google, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex. Contributions from the community are accepted, but are vetted before being added to schema.org See http://schema.org for more information. One problem with alignment to schema.org is that the formal meaning of the schema.org ontology is unusual and not fully explained. peter On Apr 14, 2014, at 10:08 PM, 小出 誠二 seijikoi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter For eyes of ontologists, it is well known that DBpedia ontology is incorrect, but I have never check about the contents of schema.org. Thank you for the info. I am planning to correct trustable ontologies like schema.org, but I do not know how to revise or advice the contents of schema.org. Does anyone know it? Or does anyone have interest the portal sites of trustable ontologies? Seiji Koide -Original Message- From: Patel-Schneider, Peter [mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:50 PM To: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist The ontology says that MusicalArtist is a subclass of schema.org:MusicGroup. This seemed very odd to me, but then I looked at schema.org and noticed that schema.org:MusicGroup can also be for *solo* artists. However, MusicalArtist is for any musical artist, not just soloists. So this mapping still looks incorrect. peter -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion
Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
I try not to get hung up on the idea of having one right hierarchy but assume most end users will need to interpret the types that exist in the way that makes sense for what they are doing. The idea of foaf:Agent, which is a superclass of both person and organization, is a powerful concept because of properties shared by these two things; for instance, either can be a party to a lawsuit. Even in music you could say a brand like Michael Jackson is a team effort. On the other hand some people want :Flutist to be a subclass of :Person and it makes sense to say one person who plays the flute is a :Flutist but you can't say that a trio that all plays the flute is a :Flutist. Everybody has some theorem they expect the system to prove and they won't accept your axiom set unless you can prove their theorem with it. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Patel-Schneider, Peter peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com wrote: schema.org is controlled by the schema.org partners, Google, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex. Contributions from the community are accepted, but are vetted before being added to schema.org See http://schema.org for more information. One problem with alignment to schema.org is that the formal meaning of the schema.org ontology is unusual and not fully explained. peter On Apr 14, 2014, at 10:08 PM, 小出 誠二 seijikoi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter For eyes of ontologists, it is well known that DBpedia ontology is incorrect, but I have never check about the contents of schema.org. Thank you for the info. I am planning to correct trustable ontologies like schema.org, but I do not know how to revise or advice the contents of schema.org. Does anyone know it? Or does anyone have interest the portal sites of trustable ontologies? Seiji Koide -Original Message- From: Patel-Schneider, Peter [mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:50 PM To: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist The ontology says that MusicalArtist is a subclass of schema.org:MusicGroup. This seemed very odd to me, but then I looked at schema.org and noticed that schema.org:MusicGroup can also be for *solo* artists. However, MusicalArtist is for any musical artist, not just soloists. So this mapping still looks incorrect. peter -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion -- Paul Houle Expert on Freebase, DBpedia, Hadoop and RDF (607) 539 6254paul.houle on Skype ontolo...@gmail.com -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion
Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
Hmm. Well, perhaps one could argue that there should be no hierarchy at all. Using the DBpedia ontology does commit you to a lot of things, many of them quite questionable. For example, in the DBpedia ontology churches are buildings, which is not true for many churches, and not even true for the physical location associated with many churches. This is one of the things that I think needs to be changed. peter On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote: I try not to get hung up on the idea of having one right hierarchy but assume most end users will need to interpret the types that exist in the way that makes sense for what they are doing. The idea of foaf:Agent, which is a superclass of both person and organization, is a powerful concept because of properties shared by these two things; for instance, either can be a party to a lawsuit. Even in music you could say a brand like Michael Jackson is a team effort. On the other hand some people want :Flutist to be a subclass of :Person and it makes sense to say one person who plays the flute is a :Flutist but you can't say that a trio that all plays the flute is a :Flutist. Everybody has some theorem they expect the system to prove and they won't accept your axiom set unless you can prove their theorem with it. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Patel-Schneider, Peter peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com wrote: schema.org is controlled by the schema.org partners, Google, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex. Contributions from the community are accepted, but are vetted before being added to schema.org See http://schema.org for more information. One problem with alignment to schema.org is that the formal meaning of the schema.org ontology is unusual and not fully explained. peter On Apr 14, 2014, at 10:08 PM, 小出 誠二 seijikoi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter For eyes of ontologists, it is well known that DBpedia ontology is incorrect, but I have never check about the contents of schema.org. Thank you for the info. I am planning to correct trustable ontologies like schema.org, but I do not know how to revise or advice the contents of schema.org. Does anyone know it? Or does anyone have interest the portal sites of trustable ontologies? Seiji Koide -Original Message- From: Patel-Schneider, Peter [mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:50 PM To: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist The ontology says that MusicalArtist is a subclass of schema.org:MusicGroup. This seemed very odd to me, but then I looked at schema.org and noticed that schema.org:MusicGroup can also be for *solo* artists. However, MusicalArtist is for any musical artist, not just soloists. So this mapping still looks incorrect. peter -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion
Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
Hi Peter, My observation is that crowdsourced knowledge bases (namely, Wikipedia, DBpedia, schema.org, Freebase, etc) can be excellent sources for the description and characterization of things and entities, but the structures that may be derived from them will by definition be incoherent at the TBox level. Exhortations to many contributors to be more coherent at a structural level are not likely, I believe, to meet with much success. The motivations of contributors and editors are most often local within the KB space. Thus, in microcosm, many parts of these KBs can look pretty good, but when the scope extends more broadly across the KB, the coherence breaks down. There aren't many advocates for structure-wide coherence. As an advocate for structure-wide coherence and one who is not afraid to wade into the fray, perhaps you can work some useful magic. I'm dubious, but I truly wish you luck. Our approach, which we have been working on for some years episodically, with another episode due shortly, is to use a coherent structure (UMBEL, in our approach, which is a faithful, simplified subset of Cyc) to provide the TBox, and then to find defensible ways to map the entity and concept information in crowdsourced KBs to that structure. We have been talking about this for so long that it is time for us to complete our initial development and put something forward that you and others can similarly scrutinize. We hope to have something useful by this summer. Thanks, Mike On 4/15/2014 6:55 PM, Patel-Schneider, Peter wrote: Hmm. Well, perhaps one could argue that there should be no hierarchy at all. Using the DBpedia ontology does commit you to a lot of things, many of them quite questionable. For example, in the DBpedia ontology churches are buildings, which is not true for many churches, and not even true for the physical location associated with many churches. This is one of the things that I think needs to be changed. peter On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote: I try not to get hung up on the idea of having one right hierarchy but assume most end users will need to interpret the types that exist in the way that makes sense for what they are doing. The idea of foaf:Agent, which is a superclass of both person and organization, is a powerful concept because of properties shared by these two things; for instance, either can be a party to a lawsuit. Even in music you could say a brand like Michael Jackson is a team effort. On the other hand some people want :Flutist to be a subclass of :Person and it makes sense to say one person who plays the flute is a :Flutist but you can't say that a trio that all plays the flute is a :Flutist. Everybody has some theorem they expect the system to prove and they won't accept your axiom set unless you can prove their theorem with it. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Patel-Schneider, Peter peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com wrote: schema.org is controlled by the schema.org partners, Google, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex. Contributions from the community are accepted, but are vetted before being added to schema.org See http://schema.org for more information. One problem with alignment to schema.org is that the formal meaning of the schema.org ontology is unusual and not fully explained. peter On Apr 14, 2014, at 10:08 PM, 小出 誠二 seijikoi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter For eyes of ontologists, it is well known that DBpedia ontology is incorrect, but I have never check about the contents of schema.org. Thank you for the info. I am planning to correct trustable ontologies like schema.org, but I do not know how to revise or advice the contents of schema.org. Does anyone know it? Or does anyone have interest the portal sites of trustable ontologies? Seiji Koide -Original Message- From: Patel-Schneider, Peter [mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:50 PM To: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist The ontology says that MusicalArtist is a subclass of schema.org:MusicGroup. This seemed very odd to me, but then I looked at schema.org and noticed that schema.org:MusicGroup can also be for *solo* artists. However, MusicalArtist is for any musical artist, not just soloists. So this mapping still looks incorrect. peter -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https
Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
of schema.org. Thank you for the info. I am planning to correct trustable ontologies like schema.org, but I do not know how to revise or advice the contents of schema.org. Does anyone know it? Or does anyone have interest the portal sites of trustable ontologies? Seiji Koide -Original Message- From: Patel-Schneider, Peter [mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:50 PM To: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist The ontology says that MusicalArtist is a subclass of schema.org:MusicGroup. This seemed very odd to me, but then I looked at schema.org and noticed that schema.org:MusicGroup can also be for *solo* artists. However, MusicalArtist is for any musical artist, not just soloists. So this mapping still looks incorrect. peter -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion
Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist
Dear Peter For eyes of ontologists, it is well known that DBpedia ontology is incorrect, but I have never check about the contents of schema.org. Thank you for the info. I am planning to correct trustable ontologies like schema.org, but I do not know how to revise or advice the contents of schema.org. Does anyone know it? Or does anyone have interest the portal sites of trustable ontologies? Seiji Koide -Original Message- From: Patel-Schneider, Peter [mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:50 PM To: dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist The ontology says that MusicalArtist is a subclass of schema.org:MusicGroup. This seemed very odd to me, but then I looked at schema.org and noticed that schema.org:MusicGroup can also be for *solo* artists. However, MusicalArtist is for any musical artist, not just soloists. So this mapping still looks incorrect. peter -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion
