Re: [Debconf-team] Data processing scripts
Hi Richard, On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Richard Darst wrote: http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/ (note new home on alioth) cool, thanks! [...] The most useful files are below, should be self explanatory. Things update every hour. neat, neat! cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua
Hi Norman, On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote: I would like to know what is the procedure in order to transfer DebConf12 money from SPI/FISS to Nicaragua. We are very close to DebConf12 and we need to pay some things. The payments we need to do are: [...] We have all the transfer information ready. We need to know who are the persons in charge and what is the procedure to make the request to SPI/FFIS. Thank you darst, I really don't know what is the procedure so that's why I'm asking, Acording to the budget: * The venue cost is 11,519.34USD, and we would like to pay 50%, which is 5,759.67. * The food cost is 15,675.00 USD, and we would need 50% before DebConf starts, which is 7837.00 * We need money to order bags and shirts, for those we have in our budget 3,600, we will need it all before DebConf. This give you a total of USD 17196.67. In FISS we have at this time EUR11247.69, with a exchange rate of 1.3 is USD14621.99, and we will need the USD3,558.25 we have in SPI at this time. All the money, as you may know, will go to ISIC, our legal representation here in Nicaragua for DebConf12. I'm not sure, or rather, I dont think, ffis can just transfer money to ISIC, without anything. So I'm cc:ing them. That said, do you have invoices from the hotel, food, etc, that we can pass to ffis? cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Data processing scripts
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote:
Hi,
http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/ (note new home on alioth)
is now being updated with data from this year. Let me know if you
notice anything suspicious or wrong - I may not have upgraded DC11 -
DC12 properly. Money related things aren't updated. The most useful
files are below, should be self explanatory. Things update every
hour.
Thank you very much for working on this!
Cheers,
http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/registration-data.txt
http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/rooms-by-date-2.txt
http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/food-by-date.txt
old-dc{10,11} has data from past years, for reference. If you want
any more data or info, let me know.
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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua
Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Norman, On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote: I would like to know what is the procedure in order to transfer DebConf12 money from SPI/FISS to Nicaragua. We are very close to DebConf12 and we need to pay some things. The payments we need to do are: [...] We have all the transfer information ready. We need to know who are the persons in charge and what is the procedure to make the request to SPI/FFIS. Thank you darst, I really don't know what is the procedure so that's why I'm asking, Acording to the budget: * The venue cost is 11,519.34USD, and we would like to pay 50%, which is 5,759.67. * The food cost is 15,675.00 USD, and we would need 50% before DebConf starts, which is 7837.00 * We need money to order bags and shirts, for those we have in our budget 3,600, we will need it all before DebConf. This give you a total of USD 17196.67. In FISS we have at this time EUR11247.69, with a exchange rate of 1.3 is USD14621.99, and we will need the USD3,558.25 we have in SPI at this time. All the money, as you may know, will go to ISIC, our legal representation here in Nicaragua for DebConf12. I'm not sure, or rather, I dont think, ffis can just transfer money to ISIC, without anything. So I'm cc:ing them. Indeed. That said, do you have invoices from the hotel, food, etc, that we can pass to ffis? That would be helpful. For such high sums the hotels should be able to issue invoices. Regards, Joey -- Every use of Linux is a proper use of Linux. -- Jon 'maddog' Hall ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Investigating the Debian involvement in DebConf12
Hi there! DebConf12 is fast approaching and the DebConf12 organizers are currently dealing with all the monetary requests. Given that it will probably not be possible to fulfill all the travel sponsorship requests, we would like to know the Debian positions in this regard. We think that DebConf is an event that clearly improves Debian, as shown in the past. It has come to our attention that some people do not donate do DebConf when contacted as potential sponsors because they have already donated to Debian, too. This is why we think that Debian should help DebConf12. The current budget is prone to change given the recent announcement about the involvement of the Nicaraguan government [1]. We will have a more precise idea of the budget on Friday 8th (I will contact you again with the detailed budget), so this is in no way an official request yet. [1] http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20120602.185904.8e8f5a7b.en.html Nevertheless, the deadline for reconfirmation is planned for June 15th and we would like to grant travel sponsorship requests before that date. There are currently 36 requests for a total of 34'357.00 USD (out of total costs of 53'120.93 USD). If we sort the request from the lowers to the highers, with 15'000 USD we could fulfill the first 25 requests, while with 25'000 USD we could reach 33 participants, almost all. What is the official Debian position? Best, Luca, on behalf of the DebConf12 organizers pgpatItpJxtVC.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Investigating the Debian involvement in DebConf12
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 04:58:10PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
The current budget is prone to change given the recent announcement
about the involvement of the Nicaraguan government [1]. We will have a
more precise idea of the budget on Friday 8th (I will contact you again
with the detailed budget), so this is in no way an official request yet.
[1] http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20120602.185904.8e8f5a7b.en.html
Nevertheless, the deadline for reconfirmation is planned for June 15th
and we would like to grant travel sponsorship requests before that date.
There are currently 36 requests for a total of 34'357.00 USD (out of
total costs of 53'120.93 USD). If we sort the request from the lowers
to the highers, with 15'000 USD we could fulfill the first 25 requests,
while with 25'000 USD we could reach 33 participants, almost all.
What is the official Debian position?
In general terms, Debian position is the one we agreed upon with the
chairs last year, and it's one I hope will remain in the long run.
Namely: debconf money is debian money and vice-versa, but we do
accounting of debconf money (for a short time window around the
conference) to help with the goal of having debconf an amortized 0-cost
event (one year it might have surplus, another deficit, but it should
try to balance over time).
But the above would mean that the DPL has to approve every single
DebConf expense, which is annoying (especially for me :-)). So the idea
was that, *before* starting a DebConf cycle, there should be a
tentative budget that is approved by the DPL; further expenditures on
that budget are dealt with by the chairs, without having to ask the DPL.
Extra expenses outside that budget, i.e. the extraordinary ones,
should go through the DPL as well, which helps in minimizing them and
provides an incentive in reducing costs.
Now, the problem with *this* specific DebConf cycle is that it's the
first one and the implementation is not yet complete. In particular, I
haven't seen any preliminary budget and we're less than one month away
from the conference :-) It's no big deal, just repeating the above to
ensure we're all on the same page.
As a consequence of the above, however, I lack data to answer your
inquiry. In particular, I've no idea of whether the money you lack are
missing starting from an empty budget, or if they are missing starting
from last year surplus, and in that case whether it was both the USD and
EUR surplus or only one of them, etc. You see the problem. To solve it,
do you have a budget to show me so that I could get an idea of how much
money has been collected, how it's been spent, etc?
We do have money reserves, but we've also recently started a fairly
expensive yearly hw replacement plan, so it's my duty to figure out how
to solve blanket's too short issues. To decide one way or another, I
first need to understand why money's are missing.
If, OTOH, you only need a bank that guarantees money for sponsorship
exist as a last resort, that has been promised in the past and can be
arranged. But it need to be backed by a reasonable certainty that
sponsorship (or economies) to cover them exist. (But even in that case
--- and that, according to the minutes, is a point that has been raised
in your last meeting --- I don't think that giving travel sponsorship to
everybody who have *asked* for it is a goal. We have seen in the past
people trying to surf debconf travel sponsorship in spite of their very
low Debian involvement, and I guess there are some this year too. Have
them already been excluded from the above figures or not?)
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Re: [Debconf-team] Data processing scripts
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 19:46 -0400, Richard Darst wrote: The most useful files are below, should be self explanatory. Please could you clarify the meaning of the three-column bits at the middle and at the bottom? On what's probably a related topic, did someone sort out yet the inconsistencies between the multiple Basic categories and the separate food and accommodation questions? -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:22:58 +0200 Martin Schulze j...@infodrom.org wrote: Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Norman, On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote: I would like to know what is the procedure in order to transfer DebConf12 money from SPI/FISS to Nicaragua. We are very close to DebConf12 and we need to pay some things. The payments we need to do are: [...] We have all the transfer information ready. We need to know who are the persons in charge and what is the procedure to make the request to SPI/FFIS. Thank you darst, I really don't know what is the procedure so that's why I'm asking, Acording to the budget: * The venue cost is 11,519.34USD, and we would like to pay 50%, which is 5,759.67. * The food cost is 15,675.00 USD, and we would need 50% before DebConf starts, which is 7837.00 * We need money to order bags and shirts, for those we have in our budget 3,600, we will need it all before DebConf. This give you a total of USD 17196.67. In FISS we have at this time EUR11247.69, with a exchange rate of 1.3 is USD14621.99, and we will need the USD3,558.25 we have in SPI at this time. All the money, as you may know, will go to ISIC, our legal representation here in Nicaragua for DebConf12. I'm not sure, or rather, I dont think, ffis can just transfer money to ISIC, without anything. So I'm cc:ing them. Indeed. That said, do you have invoices from the hotel, food, etc, that we can pass to ffis? That would be helpful. We can give a quote from venue, food and t-shirt/bags, we will have the invoices once we pay. What name does the invoice needs to have? FFIS? ISIC? Regards, -- Norman García Aguilar nor...@riseup.net ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua
[Removing kasse@ for this SPI-specific reply] Hi Norman, On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 08:44:38AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: I'm not sure, or rather, I dont think, ffis can just transfer money to ISIC, without anything. So I'm cc:ing them. That said, do you have invoices from the hotel, food, etc, that we can pass to ffis? This applies to SPI as well. Any organization with SPI's US tax status can't generally transfer money or other assets to organizations without that US tax status, except with complicated oversight arrangements OR to pay acceptable documented expenses. Everything you listed would be an acceptable expense. So for SPI as well, you should submit invoices for the expenses which it should pay. As for which organization should be on the invoice, the important thing is that SPI ends up with proof of why they paid the money to the recipient, and if the recipient is an intermediary like ISIC instead of the ultimate vendor, what they used it for. I'm sure DebConf, ISIC, and SPI can achieve that reasonably. :) treasu...@spi-inc.org is the contact email, and our Treasurer (Michael Schultheiss) uses the IRC nicks schultmc and schultmc_ . - Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf11 transaction list
Michael, Could I please get this list as soon as possible? There is an active thread about Debian support of DC12, and being able to say for sure the surpluses from last year would help me to be able to state our current status authoritatively. So, if I could get it by tonight, I could reply to that tonight. Thank you, - Richard On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 07:14:37AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: Michael, Could you send me the final DebConf11 transaction list - the text file that lists the description, date, bank fees, and amount for every debconf transaction? After I get this, we should be able to call DebConf11 done from the SPI side of things. I will try to put this info into the DC11 ledger as fast as I can, round up the last bit, and then publish the final balances. Thank you, - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 1053 days, 15:48 |http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Data processing scripts
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 03:44:06PM +0100, Moray Allan wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 19:46 -0400, Richard Darst wrote: The most useful files are below, should be self explanatory. Please could you clarify the meaning of the three-column bits at the middle and at the bottom? For certain things, like food, I thought it would be useful to know what preferences were by where people were staying (with us, not with us), since that affects the chance they will actually eat with us. Same for t-shirt, role vs debian/debconf status. It saves another query asking these things. If you want any more of these types breakdowns, just ask. On what's probably a related topic, did someone sort out yet the inconsistencies between the multiple Basic categories and the separate food and accommodation questions? I don't think so, but there is preliminary kind of stuff regarding it from error checking code from the past. *maybe* it's been used? - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 1053 days, 15:52 |http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:40:38 +0200 Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote: We can give a quote from venue, food and t-shirt/bags, we will have the invoices once we pay. I think ffis needs the invoices _before_, or? Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, at least UCA told us today that as a education entity (University) they doesn't have invoices, they will give us oficial receipt once we pay them, before that they can only give us a quote. And as I can remember, when I buy something, companies will give a receipt every time I make a payment and when I cancel the total amount then they give an invoice. So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you quotes. Regards, -- Norman García Aguilar nor...@riseup.net ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
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Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote: We can give a quote from venue, food and t-shirt/bags, we will have the invoices once we pay. I think ffis needs the invoices _before_, or? Of course! Regards, Joey -- Every use of Linux is a proper use of Linux. -- Jon 'maddog' Hall ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
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On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 01:45:02PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote: Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, at least UCA told us today that as a education entity (University) they doesn't have invoices, they will give us oficial receipt once we pay them, before that they can only give us a quote. And as I can remember, when I buy something, companies will give a receipt every time I make a payment and when I cancel the total amount then they give an invoice. So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you quotes. I think the confusion here is merely terminology, for both SPI and FFIS. When you say quotes, do you mean something that means DebConf12 is obligated to pay .XX cordobas to us by June YY for the purpose of , even if there may be more payments in either direction later to finalize things? In that case, if you give each organization quotes, receipts, and invoices as they are available, it will probably meet all the requirements. Hopefully FFIS agrees - I certainly am less familiar with their needs than SPI's. If your quotes mean DebConf12 will have to pay some fee that's approximately .XX cordobas but we don't know how much yet, the path forward is less clear. - Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
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Hi, On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Martin Schulze wrote: I think ffis needs the invoices _before_, or? Of course! On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote: Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, [...] So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you quotes. And now? cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:58:55 -0400 Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 01:45:02PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote: Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, at least UCA told us today that as a education entity (University) they doesn't have invoices, they will give us oficial receipt once we pay them, before that they can only give us a quote. And as I can remember, when I buy something, companies will give a receipt every time I make a payment and when I cancel the total amount then they give an invoice. So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you quotes. I think the confusion here is merely terminology, for both SPI and FFIS. When you say quotes, do you mean something that means DebConf12 is obligated to pay .XX cordobas to us by June YY for the purpose of , even if there may be more payments in either direction later to finalize things? In that case, if you give each organization quotes, receipts, and invoices as they are available, it will probably meet all the requirements. Hopefully FFIS agrees - I certainly am less familiar with their needs than SPI's. Right Jimmy, I'm waiting the document from UCA and then I will send to SPI and FFIS to check is the right document :) Regards, -- Norman García Aguilar nor...@riseup.net ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Data processing scripts
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 07:46:21PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote:
http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/registration-data.txt
http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/rooms-by-date-2.txt
http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/food-by-date.txt
For these scripts, I should point out the importance of the
only-attend, only-reconfirmed, only-arrived (and only-all)
directories.
For each of these reports, you can limit to only {attend, reconfirmed,
arrived}. Those respective subdirectories process the data limited by
those criteria. (And the only-all directory does everyone in the dc12
system, even if they aren't marked attend).
I occasionally change the top-level scripts to reflect what stage of
the conference we are in (attend - reconfirmed - arrived). I think
registration-data lists what the filter is.
Also, if the files get out of date (look at timestamps), poke me.
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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua
On 06/08/2012 02:03 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Martin Schulze wrote: I think ffis needs the invoices _before_, or? Of course! On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote: Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, [...] So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you quotes. And now? To me this seems to be a misunderstanding and naming issue about invoices, facturas, proformas, receipt, etc.. Let's see what UCA is giving us (will be in Spanish) and if this is ok for FFIS. In case that not, we'd have to talk with the UCA about the formalities. They are working on it and we might get the doc even today or on Monday. cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua
Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 01:45:02PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote: Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, at least UCA told us today that as a education entity (University) they doesn't have invoices, they will give us oficial receipt once we pay them, before that they can only give us a quote. And as I can remember, when I buy something, companies will give a receipt every time I make a payment and when I cancel the total amount then they give an invoice. So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you quotes. I think the confusion here is merely terminology, for both SPI and FFIS. When you say quotes, do you mean something that means DebConf12 is obligated to pay .XX cordobas to us by June YY for the purpose of , even if there may be more payments in either direction later to finalize things? In that case, if you give each organization quotes, receipts, and invoices as they are available, it will probably meet all the requirements. Hopefully FFIS agrees - I certainly am less familiar with their needs than SPI's. If that's a quote, then a quote should be sufficient. Regards, Joey -- Every use of Linux is a proper use of Linux. -- Jon 'maddog' Hall ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua
Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Martin Schulze wrote: I think ffis needs the invoices _before_, or? Of course! On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote: Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, [...] So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you quotes. And now? See the response from Jimmy and me. Regards, Joey -- Every use of Linux is a proper use of Linux. -- Jon 'maddog' Hall ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf11 transaction list
Richard Darst wrote: Michael, Could I please get this list as soon as possible? There is an active thread about Debian support of DC12, and being able to say for sure the surpluses from last year would help me to be able to state our current status authoritatively. So, if I could get it by tonight, I could reply to that tonight. I'm working on getting Richard this information and should have it available later this evening. -- Michael Schultheiss E-mail: schul...@spi-inc.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Data processing scripts
On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 15:44 +0100, Moray Allan wrote: On what's probably a related topic, did someone sort out yet the inconsistencies between the multiple Basic categories and the separate food and accommodation questions? I said related because of the first and second three-column sections here: http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/registration-data.txt Having confirmed what they mean, I see 18 Basic; no sponsored food or accommodatio Regular DebConf i.e. there are quite a few people who have chosen unsponsored Basic but also chosen DebConf accommodation. From my point of view that doesn't make sense, and those people should be either Professional or Corporate. It's possible that some of them made a mistake about the category question before the sponsorship deadline, but probably others have used this to effectively ask for sponsorship after that deadline had passed. -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
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i.e. there are quite a few people who have chosen unsponsored Basic but also chosen DebConf accommodation. From my point of view that doesn't make sense, and those people should be either Professional or Corporate. At Debconf10 there was an unsponsored category. Unlike professional, it required seperate payment for anything requested, eg accommodation or food. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Data processing scripts
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 10:48:29PM +0100, Moray Allan wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 15:44 +0100, Moray Allan wrote: On what's probably a related topic, did someone sort out yet the inconsistencies between the multiple Basic categories and the separate food and accommodation questions? I said related because of the first and second three-column sections here: http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/registration-data.txt Having confirmed what they mean, I see 18 Basic; no sponsored food or accommodatio Regular DebConf i.e. there are quite a few people who have chosen unsponsored Basic but also chosen DebConf accommodation. That is the correct interpretation. From my point of view that doesn't make sense, and those people should be either Professional or Corporate. It's possible that some of them made a mistake about the category question before the sponsorship deadline, but probably others have used this to effectively ask for sponsorship after that deadline had passed. I agree that that is how it should be. Too bad we haven't been able to make it so. The errorcheck for this says it is an error, not just a warning about payment in DC10, so presumably we didn't allow this in DC11 (but due to penta changes, I can't confirm this about DC11). Some people remember differently, though. Anyway, I created a report for the registration team so that they can deal with stuff like this. I don't have time to. - Ricahrd -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 1053 days, 20:16 |http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Some assumptions about the DC11 accounting
Hi, In finalizing DC11 accounting, I am making these assumptions. If anyone disagrees with any of these, please let me know what you would rather instead. - Richard One sponsor forgot to pay DC11, I am recording this as being passed on to DC12 (since that is where the money will appear). So, it is DC11 income, not DC12, but isn't counting as our surplus. It also isn't counting as DC11 income. Two organizers were owed money for various expenses, which they never claimed. I am marking this as donations (unclaimed-reimbursement), instead of following up. I see four newbies which were paid out of DC11 travel funds, total cost of 1794.38 EUR. I am making a virtual transaction saying that this money came as an _income_ from debian, as opposed to being debian equity we are using, since Debian agreed to pay for this already, thus it should not count against our surplus from DC11. For the final report, I am using USD/EUR exchange rates of 2012 December 31. -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 1053 days, 22:01 |http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf11 transaction list
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 04:45:01PM -0400, Michael Schultheiss wrote: Richard Darst wrote: Michael, Could I please get this list as soon as possible? There is an active thread about Debian support of DC12, and being able to say for sure the surpluses from last year would help me to be able to state our current status authoritatively. So, if I could get it by tonight, I could reply to that tonight. I'm working on getting Richard this information and should have it available later this evening. Thank you, I got the list and it is all recorded in the ledger. Everything seems to match up, which is great. A report should be forthcoming. - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 1053 days, 22:36 |http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
