Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-20 Thread Martin Wuertele
Hi Norman!

* Norman García Aguilar nor...@riseup.net [2012-06-13 17:32]:

 Right, what I know organizations does in those case, is to exchange
 dollars to cordobas in a bank, so you will have a official support of
 the exchange rate. I think that will be ok for you.

Long story short: If they want USD the need to put USD on the invoice.
If the invoice is in cordobas they will get cordobas transferred.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-20 Thread Norman García Aguilar
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:30:30 +0200
Martin Wuertele m...@debian.org wrote:

 Hi Norman!
 
 * Norman García Aguilar nor...@riseup.net [2012-06-13 17:32]:
 
  Right, what I know organizations does in those case, is to exchange
  dollars to cordobas in a bank, so you will have a official support of
  the exchange rate. I think that will be ok for you.
 
 Long story short: If they want USD the need to put USD on the invoice.
 If the invoice is in cordobas they will get cordobas transferred.

Ok martin, thanks


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2012, Leandro Gómez wrote:
 Receipts are a whole different story. By law, and AFAIK, those must be
 issued in cordobas and in Spanish.

issued in Cordobas? If so, please make sure they also include a Dollar 
price...


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-13 Thread Norman García Aguilar
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:53:43 +0200
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2012, Leandro Gómez wrote:
  Receipts are a whole different story. By law, and AFAIK, those must be
  issued in cordobas and in Spanish.
 
 issued in Cordobas? If so, please make sure they also include a Dollar 
 price...


We can try to get it in USD at least, but if not, it will include a rate 
exchange.

Also we will give both FFIS and SPI a document explanin all the expenses. 


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-13 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:53:43AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2012, Leandro Gómez wrote:
  Receipts are a whole different story. By law, and AFAIK, those must be
  issued in cordobas and in Spanish.
 
 issued in Cordobas? If so, please make sure they also include a Dollar 
 price...

It's probably best to have the documents reflect the currency of the
transaction. Effective exchange rates depend on how FFIS and SPI transfer the
money (e.g. international wire transfer, XEtrade, currency conversion fees,
etc) and on what date the money transfer to ISIC (or direct venfor payment) is
made. Any exchange rate provided by the vendor in their document is probably
going to be different than what we actually get.

Conceptually, if the obligation being presented to FFIS or SPI for payment is
in cordobas, then it's up to FFIS or SPI to figure out how to make the right
amount of cordobas end up in the right place by the deadline. A dollar or euro
amount is only relevant to their subsequent recordkeeping and for DebConf's
budgeting.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-13 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
[Again removing kasse@ for an SPI-specific reply. Not trying to answer the
question for FFIS.]

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 08:45:41PM -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
 Is it absolutely necessary to have the quotes in English?
 
 We can make an extra effort to get all the quotes in English, if it's
 required. The thing is that we're short on time and getting a simple quote
 from a local company usually means that someone from the local team has to
 lose half day of work to get the quote.

When I handled DebConf invoices/receipts/etc in Mexico as SPI Treasurer and in
Spain as an on-site money tracking person, I was ok with Spanish as long as I
was able to understand the necessary parts of the documents.

I don't think the US authorities would care about it being in English, and if
SPI needs to prove what it says, SPI can deal with official translations then,
or they might even accept Spanish-language documents for that. This is
basically the same thing Holger said applies in Germany. (Disclaimer: I haven't
gotten formal legal advice on this particular point, but I don't think it's
required.)

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-13 Thread Norman García Aguilar
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:05:13 -0400
Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:53:43AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2012, Leandro Gómez wrote:
   Receipts are a whole different story. By law, and AFAIK, those must be
   issued in cordobas and in Spanish.
  
  issued in Cordobas? If so, please make sure they also include a Dollar 
  price...
 
 It's probably best to have the documents reflect the currency of the
 transaction. Effective exchange rates depend on how FFIS and SPI transfer the
 money (e.g. international wire transfer, XEtrade, currency conversion fees,
 etc) and on what date the money transfer to ISIC (or direct venfor payment) is
 made. Any exchange rate provided by the vendor in their document is probably
 going to be different than what we actually get.
 
 Conceptually, if the obligation being presented to FFIS or SPI for payment is
 in cordobas, then it's up to FFIS or SPI to figure out how to make the right
 amount of cordobas end up in the right place by the deadline. A dollar or euro
 amount is only relevant to their subsequent recordkeeping and for DebConf's
 budgeting.

Right, what I know organizations does in those case, is to exchange dollars to 
cordobas in a bank, so you will have a official support of the exchange rate. I 
think that will be ok for you.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Joey,

On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Martin Schulze wrote:
  When you say quotes, do you mean something that means DebConf12 is
  obligated to pay .XX cordobas to us by June YY for the purpose of
  , even if there may be more payments in either direction later to
  finalize things? In that case, if you give each organization quotes,
  receipts, and invoices as they are available, it will probably meet all
  the requirements. Hopefully FFIS agrees - I certainly am less familiar
  with their needs than SPI's.
 
 If that's a quote, then a quote should be sufficient.

is that also fine if thats in spanish?

if not, how official needs the translation to be?


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-12 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Martin Schulze dijo [Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:00:16AM +0200]:
   If that's a quote, then a quote should be sufficient.
  
  is that also fine if thats in spanish?
 
 Oh dear!
 
 Please ask them to issue it in English.
 
 We issue donation receipts, receipts etc. in English as well, so should
 a company in Nicaragua, no?

As a Mexican, I can assure you it is quite hard you will get a quote
in English, sorry. Specially from companies not used to have
international interactions.

  if not, how official needs the translation to be?
 
 That's a good question...
 
 I usually think positive, thus, I assume (hope?) that people at the
 Finanzamt will accept a printout (or PDF) that consists of both the
 Spanish and German/English translation of text as appendix to the
 quote/invoice.

Would a Spanish document + translation + signature of trust on the
transaction by one or several of us Spanish speakers do?
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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2012, Martin Schulze wrote:
  if not, how official needs the translation to be?
 I usually think positive...

actually, having read this and thought again, yes, this is true, german fiscal 
authorities operate on good faith, so whatever reasonable translation is 
probably fine and _if there is a dispute_ offical translators can+will be 
brought into the game anyway...

so some english quote (with the right address!) should be sufficient, IMHO. 
Joey?


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-12 Thread Leandro Gómez
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Martin Schulze j...@infodrom.org wrote:

 Holger Levsen wrote:
  Hi Joey,
 
  On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Martin Schulze wrote:
When you say quotes, do you mean something that means DebConf12 is
obligated to pay .XX cordobas to us by June YY for the purpose of
, even if there may be more payments in either direction later
 to
finalize things? In that case, if you give each organization quotes,
receipts, and invoices as they are available, it will probably meet
 all
the requirements. Hopefully FFIS agrees - I certainly am less
 familiar
with their needs than SPI's.
  
   If that's a quote, then a quote should be sufficient.
 
  is that also fine if thats in spanish?

 Oh dear!

 Please ask them to issue it in English.


Is it absolutely necessary to have the quotes in English?

We can make an extra effort to get all the quotes in English, if it's
required. The thing is that we're short on time and getting a simple quote
from a local company usually means that someone from the local team has to
lose half day of work to get the quote.


 We issue donation receipts, receipts etc. in English as well, so should
 a company in Nicaragua, no?


Receipts are a whole different story. By law, and AFAIK, those must be
issued in cordobas and in Spanish.


  if not, how official needs the translation to be?

 That's a good question...

 I usually think positive, thus, I assume (hope?) that people at the
 Finanzamt will accept a printout (or PDF) that consists of both the
 Spanish and German/English translation of text as appendix to the
 quote/invoice.

 Regards,

Joey

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
 Martin Schulze dijo [Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:00:16AM +0200]:
If that's a quote, then a quote should be sufficient.
   
   is that also fine if thats in spanish?
  
  Oh dear!
  
  Please ask them to issue it in English.
  
  We issue donation receipts, receipts etc. in English as well, so should
  a company in Nicaragua, no?
 
 As a Mexican, I can assure you it is quite hard you will get a quote
 in English, sorry. Specially from companies not used to have
 international interactions.
 
   if not, how official needs the translation to be?
  
  That's a good question...
  
  I usually think positive, thus, I assume (hope?) that people at the
  Finanzamt will accept a printout (or PDF) that consists of both the
  Spanish and German/English translation of text as appendix to the
  quote/invoice.
 
 Would a Spanish document + translation + signature of trust on the
 transaction by one or several of us Spanish speakers do?

I hope so.  That said, just do it.  If it looks sane it should be ok.

Regards,

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Norman,

On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
   I would like to know what is the procedure in order to transfer
   DebConf12 money from SPI/FISS to Nicaragua. We are very close to
   DebConf12 and we need to pay some things.
   
   The payments we need to do are:
[...]
   We have all the transfer information ready. We need to know who are the
   persons in charge and what is the procedure to make the request to
   SPI/FFIS.
 Thank you darst, I really don't know what is the procedure so that's why
 I'm asking,
 
 Acording to the budget:
 
 * The venue cost is 11,519.34USD, and we would like to pay 50%, which is
 5,759.67. * The food cost is 15,675.00 USD, and we would need 50% before
 DebConf starts, which is 7837.00 * We need money to order bags and shirts,
 for those we have in our budget 3,600, we will need it all before DebConf.
 
 This give you a total of USD 17196.67. In FISS we have at this time
 EUR11247.69, with a exchange rate of 1.3 is USD14621.99, and we will need
 the USD3,558.25 we have in SPI at this time.
 
 All the money, as you may know, will go to ISIC, our legal representation
 here in Nicaragua for DebConf12.

I'm not sure, or rather, I dont think, ffis can just transfer money to ISIC, 
without anything. So I'm cc:ing them.

That said, do you have invoices from the hotel, food, etc, that we can pass to 
ffis?


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Martin Schulze
Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi Norman,
 
 On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
I would like to know what is the procedure in order to transfer
DebConf12 money from SPI/FISS to Nicaragua. We are very close to
DebConf12 and we need to pay some things.

The payments we need to do are:
 [...]
We have all the transfer information ready. We need to know who are the
persons in charge and what is the procedure to make the request to
SPI/FFIS.
  Thank you darst, I really don't know what is the procedure so that's why
  I'm asking,
  
  Acording to the budget:
  
  * The venue cost is 11,519.34USD, and we would like to pay 50%, which is
  5,759.67. * The food cost is 15,675.00 USD, and we would need 50% before
  DebConf starts, which is 7837.00 * We need money to order bags and shirts,
  for those we have in our budget 3,600, we will need it all before DebConf.
  
  This give you a total of USD 17196.67. In FISS we have at this time
  EUR11247.69, with a exchange rate of 1.3 is USD14621.99, and we will need
  the USD3,558.25 we have in SPI at this time.
  
  All the money, as you may know, will go to ISIC, our legal representation
  here in Nicaragua for DebConf12.
 
 I'm not sure, or rather, I dont think, ffis can just transfer money to ISIC, 
 without anything. So I'm cc:ing them.

Indeed.

 That said, do you have invoices from the hotel, food, etc, that we can pass 
 to 
 ffis?

That would be helpful.

For such high sums the hotels should be able to issue invoices.

Regards,

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Norman García Aguilar
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:22:58 +0200
Martin Schulze j...@infodrom.org wrote:

 Holger Levsen wrote:
  Hi Norman,
  
  On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
 I would like to know what is the procedure in order to transfer
 DebConf12 money from SPI/FISS to Nicaragua. We are very close to
 DebConf12 and we need to pay some things.
 
 The payments we need to do are:
  [...]
 We have all the transfer information ready. We need to know who are 
 the
 persons in charge and what is the procedure to make the request to
 SPI/FFIS.
   Thank you darst, I really don't know what is the procedure so that's why
   I'm asking,
   
   Acording to the budget:
   
   * The venue cost is 11,519.34USD, and we would like to pay 50%, which is
   5,759.67. * The food cost is 15,675.00 USD, and we would need 50% before
   DebConf starts, which is 7837.00 * We need money to order bags and shirts,
   for those we have in our budget 3,600, we will need it all before DebConf.
   
   This give you a total of USD 17196.67. In FISS we have at this time
   EUR11247.69, with a exchange rate of 1.3 is USD14621.99, and we will need
   the USD3,558.25 we have in SPI at this time.
   
   All the money, as you may know, will go to ISIC, our legal representation
   here in Nicaragua for DebConf12.
  
  I'm not sure, or rather, I dont think, ffis can just transfer money to 
  ISIC, 
  without anything. So I'm cc:ing them.
 
 Indeed.
 
  That said, do you have invoices from the hotel, food, etc, that we can pass 
  to 
  ffis?
 
 That would be helpful.

We can give a quote from venue, food and t-shirt/bags, we will have the 
invoices once we pay.

What name does the invoice needs to have? FFIS? ISIC?


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
[Removing kasse@ for this SPI-specific reply]

Hi Norman,

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 08:44:38AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 I'm not sure, or rather, I dont think, ffis can just transfer money to ISIC, 
 without anything. So I'm cc:ing them.
 
 That said, do you have invoices from the hotel, food, etc, that we can pass 
 to 
 ffis?

This applies to SPI as well. Any organization with SPI's US tax status can't
generally transfer money or other assets to organizations without that US tax
status, except with complicated oversight arrangements OR to pay acceptable
documented expenses. Everything you listed would be an acceptable expense.

So for SPI as well, you should submit invoices for the expenses which it should
pay. As for which organization should be on the invoice, the important thing is
that SPI ends up with proof of why they paid the money to the recipient, and if
the recipient is an intermediary like ISIC instead of the ultimate vendor, what
they used it for. I'm sure DebConf, ISIC, and SPI can achieve that reasonably.
:)

treasu...@spi-inc.org is the contact email, and our Treasurer (Michael
Schultheiss) uses the IRC nicks schultmc and schultmc_ .

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Norman García Aguilar
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:40:38 +0200
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
  We can give a quote from venue, food and t-shirt/bags, we will have the
  invoices once we pay.
 
 I think ffis needs the invoices _before_, or?


Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, at least UCA told us today that 
as a education entity (University) they doesn't have invoices, they will give 
us oficial receipt once we pay them, before that they can only give us a quote.

And as I can remember, when I buy something, companies will give a receipt 
every time I make a payment and when I cancel the total amount then they give 
an invoice.

So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you 
quotes.

Regards,


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Martin Schulze
Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
  We can give a quote from venue, food and t-shirt/bags, we will have the
  invoices once we pay.
 
 I think ffis needs the invoices _before_, or?

Of course!

Regards,

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 01:45:02PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
 Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, at least UCA told us today that 
 as a education entity (University) they doesn't have invoices, they will give 
 us oficial receipt once we pay them, before that they can only give us a 
 quote.
 
 And as I can remember, when I buy something, companies will give a receipt 
 every time I make a payment and when I cancel the total amount then they give 
 an invoice.
 
 So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you 
 quotes.

I think the confusion here is merely terminology, for both SPI and FFIS.

When you say quotes, do you mean something that means DebConf12 is obligated
to pay .XX cordobas to us by June YY for the purpose of , even if
there may be more payments in either direction later to finalize things? In
that case, if you give each organization quotes, receipts, and invoices as they
are available, it will probably meet all the requirements. Hopefully FFIS
agrees - I certainly am less familiar with their needs than SPI's.

If your quotes mean DebConf12 will have to pay some fee that's approximately
.XX cordobas but we don't know how much yet, the path forward is less
clear.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Martin Schulze wrote:
  I think ffis needs the invoices _before_, or?
 Of course!

On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
 Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, [...]
 So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you
 quotes.

And now?


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Norman García Aguilar
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:58:55 -0400
Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 01:45:02PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
  Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, at least UCA told us today 
  that as a education entity (University) they doesn't have invoices, they 
  will give us oficial receipt once we pay them, before that they can only 
  give us a quote.
  
  And as I can remember, when I buy something, companies will give a receipt 
  every time I make a payment and when I cancel the total amount then they 
  give an invoice.
  
  So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you 
  quotes.
 
 I think the confusion here is merely terminology, for both SPI and FFIS.
 
 When you say quotes, do you mean something that means DebConf12 is 
 obligated
 to pay .XX cordobas to us by June YY for the purpose of , even if
 there may be more payments in either direction later to finalize things? In
 that case, if you give each organization quotes, receipts, and invoices as 
 they
 are available, it will probably meet all the requirements. Hopefully FFIS
 agrees - I certainly am less familiar with their needs than SPI's.

Right Jimmy,  I'm waiting the document from UCA and then I will send to SPI and 
FFIS to check is the right document :)

Regards,


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Felix Delattre
On 06/08/2012 02:03 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,

 On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Martin Schulze wrote:
 I think ffis needs the invoices _before_, or?
 Of course!
 On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
 Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, [...]
 So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you
 quotes.
 And now?

To me this seems to be a misunderstanding and naming issue about
invoices, facturas, proformas, receipt, etc..
Let's see what UCA is giving us (will be in Spanish) and if this is ok
for FFIS. In case that not, we'd have to talk with the UCA about the
formalities.

They are working on it and we might get the doc even today or on Monday.




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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Martin Schulze
Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 01:45:02PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
  Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, at least UCA told us today 
  that as a education entity (University) they doesn't have invoices, they 
  will give us oficial receipt once we pay them, before that they can only 
  give us a quote.
  
  And as I can remember, when I buy something, companies will give a receipt 
  every time I make a payment and when I cancel the total amount then they 
  give an invoice.
  
  So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you 
  quotes.
 
 I think the confusion here is merely terminology, for both SPI and FFIS.
 
 When you say quotes, do you mean something that means DebConf12 is 
 obligated
 to pay .XX cordobas to us by June YY for the purpose of , even if
 there may be more payments in either direction later to finalize things? In
 that case, if you give each organization quotes, receipts, and invoices as 
 they
 are available, it will probably meet all the requirements. Hopefully FFIS
 agrees - I certainly am less familiar with their needs than SPI's.

If that's a quote, then a quote should be sufficient.

Regards,

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-08 Thread Martin Schulze
Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Martin Schulze wrote:
   I think ffis needs the invoices _before_, or?
  Of course!
 
 On Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
  Nobody will give us invoices if we don't pay, [...]
  So, we will not get an invoice if we don't pay, at least, we can give you
  quotes.
 
 And now?

See the response from Jimmy and me.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-07 Thread Richard Darst
Norman,

On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 02:12:38PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
 Hello Team, 
 
 I would like to know what is the procedure in order to transfer DebConf12 
 money from SPI/FISS to Nicaragua. We are very close to DebConf12 and we need 
 to pay some things.
 
 The payments we need to do are:
 
 * Venue: We want to pay a % now.
 
 * Food: We need to pay a % 
 
 * T-shirts: We need to order this ASAP.
 
 * Bags: We need to order this ASAP.
 
 * Banners: We need to order this ASAP.
 
 All the amounts are in debconf-team svn
 
 We have all the transfer information ready. We need to know who are the 
 persons in charge and what is the procedure to make the request to SPI/FFIS.

Perhaps you could say here how much you are wanting to transfer now?
This email is more to maintain transparency, rather than really ask
permission, so it would be good to say how much we need, what
organization you think it should come from, how much goes to which of
these places (so that people who can't see svn can also follow along).

- Richard

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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-07 Thread Norman García Aguilar
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:36:08 -0400
Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote:

 Norman,
 
 On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 02:12:38PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
  Hello Team, 
  
  I would like to know what is the procedure in order to transfer DebConf12 
  money from SPI/FISS to Nicaragua. We are very close to DebConf12 and we 
  need to pay some things.
  
  The payments we need to do are:
  
  * Venue: We want to pay a % now.
  
  * Food: We need to pay a % 
  
  * T-shirts: We need to order this ASAP.
  
  * Bags: We need to order this ASAP.
  
  * Banners: We need to order this ASAP.
  
  All the amounts are in debconf-team svn
  
  We have all the transfer information ready. We need to know who are the 
  persons in charge and what is the procedure to make the request to SPI/FFIS.
 
 Perhaps you could say here how much you are wanting to transfer now?
 This email is more to maintain transparency, rather than really ask
 permission, so it would be good to say how much we need, what
 organization you think it should come from, how much goes to which of
 these places (so that people who can't see svn can also follow along).


Thank you darst, I really don't know what is the procedure so that's why I'm 
asking, 

Acording to the budget:

* The venue cost is 11,519.34USD, and we would like to pay 50%, which is 
5,759.67.
* The food cost is 15,675.00 USD, and we would need 50% before DebConf starts, 
which is 7837.00
* We need money to order bags and shirts, for those we have in our budget 
3,600, we will need it all before DebConf.

This give you a total of USD 17196.67. In FISS we have at this time 
EUR11247.69, with a exchange rate of 1.3 is USD14621.99, and we will need the 
USD3,558.25 we have in SPI at this time.
 
All the money, as you may know, will go to ISIC, our legal representation here 
in Nicaragua for DebConf12.

So, it looks like we will need all the money we have right now.

Regards,


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-07 Thread Norman García Aguilar
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:25:45 -0600
Norman García Aguilar nor...@riseup.net wrote:

 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:36:08 -0400
 Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote:
 
  Norman,
  
  On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 02:12:38PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
   Hello Team, 
   
   I would like to know what is the procedure in order to transfer DebConf12 
   money from SPI/FISS to Nicaragua. We are very close to DebConf12 and we 
   need to pay some things.
   
   The payments we need to do are:
   
   * Venue: We want to pay a % now.
   
   * Food: We need to pay a % 
   
   * T-shirts: We need to order this ASAP.
   
   * Bags: We need to order this ASAP.
   
   * Banners: We need to order this ASAP.
   
   All the amounts are in debconf-team svn
   
   We have all the transfer information ready. We need to know who are the 
   persons in charge and what is the procedure to make the request to 
   SPI/FFIS.
  
  Perhaps you could say here how much you are wanting to transfer now?
  This email is more to maintain transparency, rather than really ask
  permission, so it would be good to say how much we need, what
  organization you think it should come from, how much goes to which of
  these places (so that people who can't see svn can also follow along).
 
 
 Thank you darst, I really don't know what is the procedure so that's why I'm 
 asking, 
 
 Acording to the budget:
 
 * The venue cost is 11,519.34USD, and we would like to pay 50%, which is 
 5,759.67.
 * The food cost is 15,675.00 USD, and we would need 50% before DebConf 
 starts, which is 7837.00
 * We need money to order bags and shirts, for those we have in our budget 
 3,600, we will need it all before DebConf.
 
 This give you a total of USD 17196.67. In FISS we have at this time 
 EUR11247.69, with a exchange rate of 1.3 is USD14621.99, and we will need the 
 USD3,558.25 we have in SPI at this time.

 All the money, as you may know, will go to ISIC, our legal representation 
 here in Nicaragua for DebConf12.
 
 So, it looks like we will need all the money we have right now.

Sorry, with FFIS and SPI we have USD18180.23 and I calculated USD 17196.67, we 
have a thousand extra, that I'm sure we will need it for other things here :)


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Re: [Debconf-team] Transfering DC12 funds to Nicaragua

2012-06-07 Thread Norman García Aguilar
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:25:45 -0600
Norman García Aguilar nor...@riseup.net wrote:

 On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:36:08 -0400
 Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote:
 
  Norman,
  
  On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 02:12:38PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
   Hello Team, 
   
   I would like to know what is the procedure in order to transfer DebConf12 
   money from SPI/FISS to Nicaragua. We are very close to DebConf12 and we 
   need to pay some things.
   
   The payments we need to do are:
   
   * Venue: We want to pay a % now.
   
   * Food: We need to pay a % 
   
   * T-shirts: We need to order this ASAP.
   
   * Bags: We need to order this ASAP.
   
   * Banners: We need to order this ASAP.
   
   All the amounts are in debconf-team svn
   
   We have all the transfer information ready. We need to know who are the 
   persons in charge and what is the procedure to make the request to 
   SPI/FFIS.
  
  Perhaps you could say here how much you are wanting to transfer now?
  This email is more to maintain transparency, rather than really ask
  permission, so it would be good to say how much we need, what
  organization you think it should come from, how much goes to which of
  these places (so that people who can't see svn can also follow along).
 
 
 Thank you darst, I really don't know what is the procedure so that's why I'm 
 asking, 
 
 Acording to the budget:
 
 * The venue cost is 11,519.34USD, and we would like to pay 50%, which is 
 5,759.67.
 * The food cost is 15,675.00 USD, and we would need 50% before DebConf 
 starts, which is 7837.00
 * We need money to order bags and shirts, for those we have in our budget 
 3,600, we will need it all before DebConf.
 
 This give you a total of USD 17196.67. In FISS we have at this time 
 EUR11247.69, with a exchange rate of 1.3 is USD14621.99, and we will need the 
 USD3,558.25 we have in SPI at this time.

 All the money, as you may know, will go to ISIC, our legal representation 
 here in Nicaragua for DebConf12.
 
 So, it looks like we will need all the money we have right now.

Sorry, with FFIS and SPI we have USD18180.23 and I calculated USD 17196.67, we 
have a  extra of USD983.56, and I'm sure we will need it for other things here 
:)


Regards,

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