Re: Tracker/Beagle integration in Nautilus

2007-07-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 19 juillet 2007 à 18:53 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe a écrit :
 What are the updated plans on this?

Sorry, this slept out of my mind.

I'm uploading a new nautilus version with supposedly tracker support
enabled, but I can't test it right now because my home is on NFS. I'm
interested in any kind of feedback.

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Re: Tracker/Beagle integration in Nautilus

2007-07-19 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe

On 2/20/07, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 23:39 +0100, Niv Sardi-Altivanik a écrit :
 What do you think about it ? could it be possible to have
 libtrackerclient-dev and libbeagle-dev added to nautilus' build-deps,
 and nautilus added a Suggests tracker | beagle ?

I was waiting for tracker to get out of NEW to add support for it in
nautilus, and am going to do it soon.


What are the updated plans on this?
In any case, Tracker 0.6 is promised for this weekend.

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Re: Tracker/Beagle integration in Nautilus

2007-02-21 Thread Xavier Bestel
On mar, 2007-02-20 at 17:16 -0800, Alex Malinovich wrote:
  Is the extra runtime dep really so heavy ?
 Strictly from an end-user perspective, I think it's much better to have
 both alternatives easily available. 

As long as it doesn't pull the mono interpreter, it's fine.

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Re: Tracker/Beagle integration in Nautilus

2007-02-21 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El jue, 22-02-2007 a las 00:09 +0100, Xavier Bestel escribió:
 On mar, 2007-02-20 at 17:16 -0800, Alex Malinovich wrote:
   Is the extra runtime dep really so heavy ?
  Strictly from an end-user perspective, I think it's much better to have
  both alternatives easily available. 
 
 As long as it doesn't pull the mono interpreter, it's fine.

   Depends if it will only use libbeagle0 or not. With that nautilus
will be able to access beagle data, but it has to be gathered somehow.
And beagled does need Mono.

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Re: Tracker/Beagle integration in Nautilus

2007-02-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo schrieb:
 El jue, 22-02-2007 a las 00:09 +0100, Xavier Bestel escribió:
 On mar, 2007-02-20 at 17:16 -0800, Alex Malinovich wrote:
 Is the extra runtime dep really so heavy ?
 Strictly from an end-user perspective, I think it's much better to have
 both alternatives easily available. 
 As long as it doesn't pull the mono interpreter, it's fine.
 
Depends if it will only use libbeagle0 or not. With that nautilus
 will be able to access beagle data, but it has to be gathered somehow.
 And beagled does need Mono.

Enabling tracker resp. beagle support in nautilus will lead to a
dependency on libtrackerclient0 (111k) [1] resp. libbeagle0 (319k) [2],
generated by dh_shlibdeps. So the dependencies are rather leight weight,
and I think we could enable both.

A Depends/Recommends/Suggests (whatever Joss seems fit best) on tracker
or beagle would have to be added to nautilus manually.
Without the tracker or beagle package installed, nautilus will fall back
to plain search.
Installing the beagle package will pull in the whole mono machinery,
which (I haven't counted) is I'd guess something around 30-50 Mb.

Cheers,
Michael


[1] which depends on libdbus-1-3, libdbus-glib-1-2 and libglib2.0-0
[2] which depends on libglib2.0-0 and libxml2
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Re: Tracker/Beagle integration in Nautilus

2007-02-21 Thread Niv Sardi-Altivanik
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 El jue, 22-02-2007 a las 00:09 +0100, Xavier Bestel escribió:
 On mar, 2007-02-20 at 17:16 -0800, Alex Malinovich wrote:
   Is the extra runtime dep really so heavy ?
  Strictly from an end-user perspective, I think it's much better to have
  both alternatives easily available. 
 
 As long as it doesn't pull the mono interpreter, it's fine.

Depends if it will only use libbeagle0 or not. With that nautilus
 will be able to access beagle data, but it has to be gathered somehow.
 And beagled does need Mono.

You only do need libbeagle0, it shouldn't link to anything more.

You witch only means that you'll pull in mono if you actually want to
use beagle.

$ apt-cache show libbeagle0 | egrep 'Depends'
Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-6), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.12.0), libxml2 (= 2.6.27)

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Re: Tracker/Beagle integration in Nautilus

2007-02-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 23:39 +0100, Niv Sardi-Altivanik a écrit :
 What do you think about it ? could it be possible to have
 libtrackerclient-dev and libbeagle-dev added to nautilus' build-deps,
 and nautilus added a Suggests tracker | beagle ?

I was waiting for tracker to get out of NEW to add support for it in
nautilus, and am going to do it soon.

I don't think it's wiseful to add another runtime dependency just to
support another search engine, especially when each new tracker release
shows it is improving over beagle.

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Re: Tracker/Beagle integration in Nautilus

2007-02-20 Thread Niv Sardi-Altivanik
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I don't think it's wiseful to add another runtime dependency just to
 support another search engine, especially when each new tracker release
 shows it is improving over beagle.

I really don't feel confortable to make the choice of witch indexer
project to use, especially at a stage where beagle is offering more
features than tracker, and that at least RedHat/Fedora and Novell/Suse
are pushing it.

Is the extra runtime dep really so heavy ?

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Re: Tracker/Beagle integration in Nautilus

2007-02-20 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 00:54 +0100, Niv Sardi-Altivanik wrote:
 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I don't think it's wiseful to add another runtime dependency just to
  support another search engine, especially when each new tracker release
  shows it is improving over beagle.
 
 I really don't feel confortable to make the choice of witch indexer
 project to use, especially at a stage where beagle is offering more
 features than tracker, and that at least RedHat/Fedora and Novell/Suse
 are pushing it.
 
 Is the extra runtime dep really so heavy ?

Strictly from an end-user perspective, I think it's much better to have
both alternatives easily available. I think that given the memory
footprint of both tracker and beagle, the overhead in getting Nautilus
to support either or both would be minimal by comparison. And the
ability to choose which one you wanted to use would be a big plus in my
book. Either a Depends: [ beagle | tracker ] scenario or a Provides:
desktop-search + Depends: desktop-search (or something similar) would
be ideal in my book.

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Re: Tracker/Beagle integration in Nautilus

2007-02-19 Thread Marco Cabizza
Il giorno lun, 19/02/2007 alle 23.39 +0100, Niv Sardi-Altivanik ha
scritto:
 What do you think about it ? could it be possible to have
 libtrackerclient-dev and libbeagle-dev added to nautilus' build-deps,
 and nautilus added a Suggests tracker | beagle ?

I really like the whole idea, tracker sounds promising - and
it's about time we had something like that ! - but the | thing looks
like the same old story, I'd rather see a long and boring discussion
where we all sit around a table and see which one is the best
alternative and just depend on that one, while ( maybe ) leaving the
other one as an option or ( maybe ) just throwing it away, so that I
( user ) don't have to choose myself.

Of course this won't lead to an end to this discussion in a
couple minutes, but maybe it makes sense.

Ciao
~marco



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