Re: Fwd: Re: RFS: wmaker

2011-11-15 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
On 15/11/2011 3:13, Hendrik Weimer wrote:
 Rodolfo kix Garcia k...@kix.es writes:
 
 Copyright: 1997, Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
 ma...@windowmaker.info License: public-domain They may be
 distributed freely and/or modified as long as the original Author
 is mentioned!
 
 This is different from public domain. Just use a generic name such
 as attribution instead for the first line of the License field.
 
 Copyright: 2000, Banlu Kemiyatorn License: public-domain do What
 The Fuck you want to Public License
 
 This should probably be called WTFPL-1.
 
 Hendrik

Hi Hendrik,

thanks a lot for your reply.

I am not sure if I can use the WTFPL-1 license in the License
field. In the file http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/; are the possible
licenses to use, and of course, WTFPL-1 license is not included.

The same problem for the field attribution, is not included in the
specification.

For these reasons I used the license public-domain, because is in
the specification.

Best Regards,
kix.


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Re: Fwd: Re: RFS: wmaker

2011-11-15 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 08:50:43AM +0100, Rodolfo kix Garcia a écrit :
 
 I am not sure if I can use the WTFPL-1 license in the License
 field. In the file http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/; are the possible
 licenses to use, and of course, WTFPL-1 license is not included.

Dear Rodolfo,

The list in http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ is not limitative, you can use
WTFPL-1 or any other keyword if you like.

The public-domain short name is reserved for cases where the work is really in
the public domain in the strict legal sense of it; this is a rare case (for
instance, some works of U. S. government employees).

Have a nice day,

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Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan


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Re: Fwd: Re: RFS: wmaker

2011-11-15 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:24:42 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 08:50:43AM +0100, Rodolfo kix Garcia a écrit 
:


I am not sure if I can use the WTFPL-1 license in the License
field. In the file http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/; are the 
possible

licenses to use, and of course, WTFPL-1 license is not included.


Dear Rodolfo,

The list in http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ is not limitative, you 
can use

WTFPL-1 or any other keyword if you like.

The public-domain short name is reserved for cases where the work is
really in
the public domain in the strict legal sense of it; this is a rare 
case (for

instance, some works of U. S. government employees).

Have a nice day,


Thanks a lot!

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Re: Fwd: Re: RFS: wmaker

2011-11-15 Thread Hendrik Weimer
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:

 The public-domain short name is reserved for cases where the work is
 really in the public domain in the strict legal sense of it; this is a
 rare case (for instance, some works of U. S. government employees).

US government works are only in the public domain when distributed
within the US. In all other countries that have signed the Berne
Convention you still need a license, which should also apply to many
Debian mirrors.

http://www.quantenblog.net/free-software/us-copyright-international

Hendrik


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Re: Fwd: Re: RFS: wmaker

2011-11-15 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 09:49:47AM -0500, Hendrik Weimer a écrit :
 Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
 
  The public-domain short name is reserved for cases where the work is
  really in the public domain in the strict legal sense of it; this is a
  rare case (for instance, some works of U. S. government employees).
 
 US government works are only in the public domain when distributed
 within the US. In all other countries that have signed the Berne
 Convention you still need a license, which should also apply to many
 Debian mirrors.
 
 http://www.quantenblog.net/free-software/us-copyright-international

Hi,

at least for the Debian point of view, what I can say is that it redistributes
public domain US government works outside US without license, and that the FTP
team does not seem to find it problematic, as in my experience it still accepts
packages containing such works.

Have a nice day,

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Debian Med packaging team,
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan


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Fwd: Re: RFS: wmaker

2011-11-14 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
Hello,

I am trying to upload a new version of wmaker package. I wrote two
sections as public-domain in the copyright file (converting the file
to DEP-5). When I put the package at mentors, Paul made me a comment
about it.

Can you help us? The package is at mentors, and the problem (forwarded
mail below) is about two sections:

1)

Copyright: 1997, Marco van Hylckama Vlieg ma...@windowmaker.info
License: public-domain
 They may be distributed freely and/or modified as long as the original
 Author is mentioned!


2)

Copyright: 2000, Banlu Kemiyatorn
License: public-domain
 do What The Fuck you want to Public License
 .
 Version 1.0, March 2000
 Copyright (C) 2000 Banlu Kemiyatorn (]d).
 136 Nives 7 Jangwattana 14 Laksi Bangkok
 Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
 of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.
 .
 Ok, the purpose of this license is simple
 and you just
 .
 DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO.
 - - 

The current version of the wmaker package includes these files. You
can download the package from mentors:

To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/wmaker

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

  dget -x
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/w/wmaker/wmaker_0.95.0-1.dsc

Thanks a lot.

Best Regards,

kix

Please, Cc: me, I am not subscribed to this mail-list. Thanks.

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: RFS: wmaker
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:36:27 -0500
From: Paul Tagliamonte paul...@ubuntu.com
To: Rodolfo kix Garcia k...@kix.es
CC: debian-ment...@lists.debian.org

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Rodolfo kix Garcia k...@kix.es wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Thanks Paul!!
 
 I have a new version, I will upload it in a few hours (and I will
 comment your email ;-)), but... I need help with this:
 
 [1] Problems in the copyright file with some licenses. What license
 I need to use? [2] GPL-2 block. I need to add the license to the
 file?
 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 Best Regards.
 
 
 [1] On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:00:55 -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
 
 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Rodolfo kix Garcia k...@kix.es
 wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
 ./debian/copyright You say: License: public-domain
 
 but then you go on to say:
 
 They may be distributed freely and/or modified as long as
 the original Author is mentioned!
 
 That's not public domain :)

I'm not sure what to do about this. It looks very BSDish. debian-legal
might be the best place to ask.

 
 Also: License: public-domain do What The Fuck you want to
 Public License
 
 WTF license!! ;-) I try to select one license, but I found
 nothing. http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ What should I do?
 
 I'm not sure. I'll pass this off to someone who knows what
 they're doing :)
 
 [2]
 

This might be OK to call public-domain, but I'm not sure that
statement is a good legal release. debian-legal to the rescue again, I
think.

 
 Lastly: you have a GPL-2 block without files.
 
 No. Is the License paragraph. Is not correct?
 
 Ah, I see what you did. That's for the bit up on the top.
 
 I seem to recall that not being right, but I'm not sure :)

Add that block to the top where you have the Files: *, a blank line
signifies a full stop, next block, forget what I just said.

Don't worry about it being neat, just worry about it being correct :)

 
 
 [snip]
 
 Best of luck! Paul
 
 -- All programmers are playwrights, and all computers are lousy
 actors.
 
 #define sizeof(x) rand() :wq
 
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Re: Fwd: Re: RFS: wmaker

2011-11-14 Thread Hendrik Weimer
Rodolfo kix Garcia k...@kix.es writes:

 Copyright: 1997, Marco van Hylckama Vlieg ma...@windowmaker.info
 License: public-domain
  They may be distributed freely and/or modified as long as the original
  Author is mentioned!

This is different from public domain. Just use a generic name such as
attribution instead for the first line of the License field.

 Copyright: 2000, Banlu Kemiyatorn
 License: public-domain
  do What The Fuck you want to Public License

This should probably be called WTFPL-1.

Hendrik


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