Re: RFS: lusernet.app (updated package)

2006-09-28 Thread Gürkan Sengün

However, your package is really good and it would
be really bad to waste the good work you made, so CC'ing him. Although
he is maybe busy until next Monday, he's a friendly guy and will answer
you quickly :P

I think he will offer you co-maintainership, and if so, I'll sponsor the
upload if you want.


Yes he is co-maintaining the package, please sponsor this package.

Yours,
Gürkan


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Re: Version 1 accidentally released as version 2...

2006-09-28 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 11:14:36AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:33:46AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
  OK, thanks all for your answers. I will mention the problem in the
  README. How can I give a message only to the users who upgrade from the
  previous version? I do not want to annoy the ones who will install from
  Etch next year...
 
 If you put in NEWS.Debian (it has the same format as debian/changelog, you
 can even use dch to edit it) then people who are using apt-listchanges and
 are upgrading from a version older than the version in which the news was
 logged against will see the message.

But that's not what he wants, because then all the people who upgrade to etch
with also see it then, even though it's irrelevant for them.  What he's asking
is if there's a way to show it only if the upgrade is from a high enough
version.

If the message is important enough for a debconf note, you can use that (and
display it depending on a version check in the config script).  You shouldn't
use debconf notes if the user doesn't actually need to do anything though.
(that is, notes are annoying and should only exist because something important
is happening, where some action is required from the user.)

Thanks,
Bas

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Re: RFS: lusernet.app (updated package)

2006-09-28 Thread Daniel Baumann
Gürkan Sengün wrote:
 Yes he is co-maintaining the package, please sponsor this package.

done.

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Re: Version 1 accidentally released as version 2...

2006-09-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 12:19:04PM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit :
 
 But that's not what he wants, because then all the people who upgrade to etch
 with also see it then, even though it's irrelevant for them.  What he's asking
 is if there's a way to show it only if the upgrade is from a high enough
 version.

Luckily, the situation is simpler: the package has been created
recently, and six popcon-persons installed it. Only one version of the
debian package has been released for the moment (i.e. the changelog has
only one entry). I would like the persons upgrading to see the message
and the people installing for the first time not seeing it. Will
NEWS.Debian fit this purpose?

Have a nice day,

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Re: RFS: lusernet.app (updated package) [sponsored]

2006-09-28 Thread Yavor Doganov
В Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:35:26 +0200, Daniel Baumann написа:

 Gürkan Sengün wrote:
 Yes he is co-maintaining the package, please sponsor this package.
 
 done.

Thank you very much.  It seems that someone removed it from m.d.n
before I manage to do so, that's good.


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Re: Version 1 accidentally released as version 2...

2006-09-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 07:36:36PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Le Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 12:19:04PM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit :
  But that's not what he wants, because then all the people who upgrade to 
  etch
  with also see it then, even though it's irrelevant for them.  What he's 
  asking
  is if there's a way to show it only if the upgrade is from a high enough
  version.
 
 Luckily, the situation is simpler: the package has been created
 recently, and six popcon-persons installed it. Only one version of the
 debian package has been released for the moment (i.e. the changelog has
 only one entry). I would like the persons upgrading to see the message
 and the people installing for the first time not seeing it. Will
 NEWS.Debian fit this purpose?

Yes.

- Matt



Re: gnome-app-install (super-easy package manager) prototype

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)
Le jeudi 28 septembre 2006 06:51, Jason Spiro a écrit :
 Hi all,

 My question is in the last paragraph of this email.

 Progress note:

 I am working on a port of gnome-app-install to Debian. This utility,
 made by the folks at Canonical Inc. and Ubuntu, is like Synaptic, but
 ten times easier to use.

Good news, it's fine for noobs :-)

 It currently does the job but does not always quit after an install
 operation is finished. Known issues include internationalization,
 missing icons, the OK button and it currently fails if you try to
 install anything in non-free. (If you try it, it'd be great if you could
 let me know, either here or by email, whether the icons in the
 Popularity column look like little stars or little X-squares. You can
 install it using the following sources.list lines:)

I'll have a look, dunno if I can help...

 deb http://www.jspiro.com/files/debian experimental/
 deb-src http://www.jspiro.com/files/debian experimental/

Why don't you upload it to mentors.debian.net ?

 I am frustrated at the various bugs I'm seeing but I don't want to give
 up, as I want gnome-app-install to be in Debian. If you would like to
 finish packaging the app and take over maintainership, I'd be very glad
 to stop here and explain to you the changes I've made already.

Don't forgive, if people would have stop each time they thought it's too hard, 
GNU/Linux would not exists ;-)

I can help you for the packaging for sure, and maybe for the port. If it's not 
enough we should run a project @ alioth en try to find some other 
developpers !

 Now for my question:

 I am working from an upstream .tar.gz file from Ubuntu. The upstream
 tarball includes .pyc files too, not just .py files.  My .diff.gz does
 not touch the .pyc files when applied to the upstream source. Will this
 be a problem when people try to apply the .diff?

Hmmm... Here is what I think. There are two case :

 * The original apps is only for ubuntu, you had to makes LOTS OF change in it 
to get it runnng on Debian. Then I would suggest to fork the project, so 
you'll recreate a new tarball.

 * The patches are not su huge and you can handle them through dpatch or 
quilt. Just leave the upstream tarball as it was but DO NOT INSTALL pyc 
files. (and report the issue to upstream).

 Thanks for being here to listen.
 Jason Spiro

NP, Adam.

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Re: [Fwd: RFS: libmtp] (reminder)

2006-09-28 Thread Arjan Oosting
Op di, 26-09-2006 te 16:20 +0100, schreef James Westby:
 On (26/09/06 11:09), Jean Parpaillon wrote:
  I am looking for a sponsor for my package libmtp.
 
 Hi I cannot sponsor, but I have some comments,
 
   * Can you please expand the long description. At least mention what
 the MTP is, and what sort of devices support it.
   * Should libmtp-doc be in Section: doc?
   * Please dtop using ${Source-Version}, see
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2006/09/msg00228.html
   * Please sort out the debian/copyright, see
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/03/msg00023.html
 Also there are more copyright holders to find, and a few files with
 unclear copyright status that should be clarified upstream.
   * I'm not sure whether you should install the rules in rules.d or in
 the parent dir and add a symlink.
From /usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian.gz:

MAINTAINERS BEWARE: the use of /etc/udev/rules.d/ by other packages is
discouraged, except when only RUN rules are added.
If you think your package needs to create a file there, then please
contact the udev package maintainer and explain your needs.
Packages should NEVER create files in /etc/udev/rules.d/, but create a
symlink the first time the package is installed (and never try again, to
allow the local system administrator to remove it).

So contact Md and don't install any files in /etc/udev/rules.d!

Greetings Arjan


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Re: gnome-app-install (super-easy package manager) prototype

2006-09-28 Thread Jason Spiro
On 2006-09-28, Jason Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am working on a port of gnome-app-install to Debian. This utility,
 made by the folks at Canonical Inc. and Ubuntu, is like Synaptic, but
 ten times easier to use.

 It currently does the job but does not always quit after an install
 operation is finished. Known issues include internationalization,
 missing icons, the OK button and it currently fails if you try to
 install anything in non-free. (If you try it, it'd be great if you could
 let me know, either here or by email, whether the icons in the
 Popularity column look like little stars or little X-squares. You can
 install it using the following sources.list lines:)

 deb http://www.jspiro.com/files/debian experimental/
 deb-src http://www.jspiro.com/files/debian experimental/


The previous version I released fails to start with a RuntimeError.
Please try the new version. It is now tested on both my machines and
works on both.

Changes:
 gnome-app-install (0.2.15-2) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   * bug-fix release:
 - fixed datadir defined in /usr/bin/gnome-app-install so that the
   app will run on PCs other than mine
 - added new Recommends: yelp (Gnome help)

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Re: gnome-app-install (super-easy package manager) prototype

2006-09-28 Thread Jason Spiro
On 2006-09-28, Adam Cécile (Le_Vert) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 deb http://www.jspiro.com/files/debian experimental/
 deb-src http://www.jspiro.com/files/debian experimental/

 Why don't you upload it to mentors.debian.net ?

I don't know how to, and I bet the lftp ftp.example.com -e 'mirror -eR
source target' command won't work with the site. The command syncs a
directory tree on my PC with a directory tree on the target machine.

 I am frustrated at the various bugs I'm seeing but I don't want to give
 up, as I want gnome-app-install to be in Debian. If you would like to
 finish packaging the app and take over maintainership, I'd be very glad
 to stop here and explain to you the changes I've made already.

 Don't forgive, if people would have stop each time they thought it's too 
 hard, 
 GNU/Linux would not exists ;-)

You're right :)

 I can help you for the packaging for sure, and maybe for the port. If it's 
 not 
 enough we should run a project @ alioth en try to find some other 
 developpers !

Thank you for your kind offer. I am going to look for somebody in
Toronto (preferably at my school) for now. If I don't find anyone, in a
week or so, please email me; I think I will take you up on your offer.
Where can we host the files? I am on the starter package with my web
hosting company (www.moonbase.info) so I can't SSH in. The company has
FrontPage Extensions installed on all their webservers; does that mean
Subversion will work for the job?

 I am working from an upstream .tar.gz file from Ubuntu. The upstream
 tarball includes .pyc files too, not just .py files.  My .diff.gz does
 not touch the .pyc files when applied to the upstream source. Will this
 be a problem when people try to apply the .diff?

 Hmmm... Here is what I think. There are two case :

  * The original apps is only for ubuntu, you had to makes LOTS OF change in 
 it 
 to get it runnng on Debian. Then I would suggest to fork the project, so 
 you'll recreate a new tarball.

  * The patches are not su huge and you can handle them through dpatch or 
 quilt. Just leave the upstream tarball as it was but DO NOT INSTALL pyc 
 files. (and report the issue to upstream).

I think I will pick #2.

Cheers,
Jason

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Re: gnome-app-install (super-easy package manager) prototype

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)
Le jeudi 28 septembre 2006 16:18, Jason Spiro a écrit :
 On 2006-09-28, Adam Cécile (Le_Vert) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  deb http://www.jspiro.com/files/debian experimental/
  deb-src http://www.jspiro.com/files/debian experimental/
 
  Why don't you upload it to mentors.debian.net ?

 I don't know how to, and I bet the lftp ftp.example.com -e 'mirror -eR
 source target' command won't work with the site. The command syncs a
 directory tree on my PC with a directory tree on the target machine.

http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/maintainer-intro

  I am frustrated at the various bugs I'm seeing but I don't want to give
  up, as I want gnome-app-install to be in Debian. If you would like to
  finish packaging the app and take over maintainership, I'd be very glad
  to stop here and explain to you the changes I've made already.
 
  Don't forgive, if people would have stop each time they thought it's too
  hard, GNU/Linux would not exists ;-)

 You're right :)

  I can help you for the packaging for sure, and maybe for the port. If
  it's not enough we should run a project @ alioth en try to find some
  other developpers !

 Thank you for your kind offer. I am going to look for somebody in
 Toronto (preferably at my school) for now. If I don't find anyone, in a
 week or so, please email me; I think I will take you up on your offer.
 Where can we host the files? I am on the starter package with my web
 hosting company (www.moonbase.info) so I can't SSH in. The company has
 FrontPage Extensions installed on all their webservers; does that mean
 Subversion will work for the job?

Alioth is dedicated for this kind of problems.
http://alioth.debian.org/

  I am working from an upstream .tar.gz file from Ubuntu. The upstream
  tarball includes .pyc files too, not just .py files.  My .diff.gz does
  not touch the .pyc files when applied to the upstream source. Will this
  be a problem when people try to apply the .diff?
 
  Hmmm... Here is what I think. There are two case :
 
   * The original apps is only for ubuntu, you had to makes LOTS OF change
  in it to get it runnng on Debian. Then I would suggest to fork the
  project, so you'll recreate a new tarball.
 
   * The patches are not su huge and you can handle them through dpatch or
  quilt. Just leave the upstream tarball as it was but DO NOT INSTALL pyc
  files. (and report the issue to upstream).

 I think I will pick #2.

 Cheers,
 Jason

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Re: RFS: scuttle

2006-09-28 Thread Sandro Tosi

I am looking for a sponsor for my package scuttle.


Hi Marcelo,
I cannot sponsor you package, since IANADD, but I've given it a review:

* first of all, here we like to talk with a guy with a name and a
surname, not a nick :) Please write email here with you full name (and
maybe with the email you're using in the package)

* debian/changelog
   - I'd like to be Initial release (Closes: #362114), but this is
just a personal feeling, nothing is wrong in what you've written

* debian/compat
   - could you bump it to 5?

* debian/control
   - if you choose Yes in the previous question, bump versione
depends on debhelper to (=5)
   - add Homepage meta-tag

* debian/apache.conf
   - what is this file for and how would you like to interact with apache?

* debian/config.inc.php.diff
   - what is this file? I got it now, but I dont like this way to
create config file too much, but if you thought about it and find no
prettier way, could be ok

* debian/scuttle.post{inst, rm}
   - you restart some services, but is user aware of it? maybe he/she
would not like those service to be restarted at install/remove time...

* teste.sh
   - you've added this file that is not in the upstream pkg in the
root dir: the right way is to create it in debian/ and install it
where is neede

* debian/copyright
   - you missed almost everywhere copyright years; give a look at [1]
[2] [3] for some guidelines to write this file
   - many upstream files miss copyright notice: I think you should
ask upsteam to add that note (but I'd like to hear a DD comments on
this)
   - I don't know it it's enough to add here the other projects
included in upstream package (phpBB2, UTF8 Helper Functions and XSPF
Web Music Player) as is needed to include copyright notice on a
per-file basis: someone else would comment on this?

* debian/rules
   - remove template header

* ./cache/.cvsignore  other
   - you should ask upstream to remove unneded file from package

* debian/watch
   - could you please add it, if you think could worth having it (I
think so... :)?


Kind Regards,
Sandro

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/12/msg7.html
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/03/msg00023.html
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/12/msg00194.html

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Re: RFS: png2html (updated package)

2006-09-28 Thread Jack Grahams
Florian Ernst wrote:
 Well, IMHO it is. Just uploaded.

Thanks, your help is very much appreciated.

 If you want to update your packaging any time in the future please
 simply contact me directly via private mail.

Will do :)

Cheers,
Jack


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What to do if upstream downlaod location disappears?

2006-09-28 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Dear mentors,

One of my packages, petris, does not have an upstream download location
anymore. I've contacted the author who told me that he is not planning
to change this really. He suggested I make it available myself
somewhere.

I am trying to fix this bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=387371

Policy 12.5 says:
[...]
In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources (if
any) were obtained. It should name the original authors of the package
and the Debian maintainer(s) who were involved with its creation.
[...]

The '(if any)' makes me think I can amend the copyright file like this:

It was originally downloaded from
http://home1.stofanet.dk/peter-seidler/ which does not exist anymore.
There is currently no known download location. However, the 
pristine last upstream source is in the petris_1.0.1.orig.tar.gz tarball
in the Debian archives.

Would this be acceptable?

Thanks a lot  best regards,
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Re: What to do if upstream downlaod location disappears?

2006-09-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 07:19:04AM +1000, Andree Leidenfrost wrote:
 The '(if any)' makes me think I can amend the copyright file like this:
 
 It was originally downloaded from
 http://home1.stofanet.dk/peter-seidler/ which does not exist anymore.
 There is currently no known download location. However, the 
 pristine last upstream source is in the petris_1.0.1.orig.tar.gz tarball
 in the Debian archives.
 
 Would this be acceptable?

I would consider that to be a perfectly acceptable statement of the facts.

- Matt


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Re: RFS: drapes (updated again)

2006-09-28 Thread Francesco Namuri
Hi,
I have made another release of the package, adding to the
debian/copyright file, the informations about the author of the dpatch
that updates the config.guess and config.sub files.

I hope to have resolved this problem... :)

kind regards.
francesco


The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/drapes
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/drapes/drapes_0.4.97-3.dsc

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Re: How do you include orig with pbuilder?

2006-09-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Joseph Smidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I usually just build packages in unstable, but I am trying to learn
 pbuilder.  I need to build a package and include the original source in
 the upload.  With dpkg-buildpackage I just pass in -sa to do this.  How
 do I do it with pbuilder?

pdebuild --debbuildopts -sa

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Re: How do you include orig with pbuilder?

2006-09-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 04:51:21PM -0600, Joseph Smidt a écrit :
 I usually just build packages in unstable, but I am trying to learn pbuilder.
 I need to build a package and include the original source in the upload.  With
 dpkg-buildpackage I just pass in -sa to do this.  How do I do it with
 pbuilder?

Dear Joseph,

When you build a source package it produces the following files:

- A .orig.tar.gz file: the upstream sources.
- A .diff.gz file: your modifications to it (including the debian
  directory)
- A .dsc file which gives the md5 sums of the previously mentinned
  files.

Most programs assume that those three are all in the same directory. If
you give the .dsc to pbuilder, it will check that the md5 sums are
matching, and start to build.

Actually, other files are frequently produced:

 - A .deb binary package.
 - A .changes file, which is a bit similar to the .dsc file, but fits
   better the needs of package uploading (for instance, it contains an
   extract of the changelog).

You do not need then with pbuilder, dget, dpkg-source, and probably
other programs whose purpose is not to upload new packages to a
repository.

Have a nice day,

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