ack! x has been hosed

1997-06-18 Thread Rick Hawkins

I got X going by using XF86Setup.  Initially, when done, it ran
xvidtune.  Now, no such luck.  I ultimately ended up removing all of the
xpackages and reinstalling, but still no.  It seems to be unhappy about
a missing default font.

here's the output from startx:



XFree86 Version 3.2 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6100)
Release Date: Oct 26 1996
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
  newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200,
   3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) S3: Graphics device ID: Diamond Stealth VRAM
(**) S3: Monitor ID: My Monitor

these figures seem outrageously high:

(--) S3: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1800X1440 needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3: Mode 1800X1440 needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(--) S3: card type: ISA
(--) S3: Diamond Stealth BIOS found
(--) S3: chipset:   911 
(--) S3: chipset driver: s3_generic
(--) S3: videoram:  1024k
(**) S3: Ramdac type: normal
(--) S3: Ramdac speed: 110

??? should i have defined a different ramdac?  what is one, anyway?

(--) S3: clocks:  25.98  28.32  28.32   0.00  25.17  28.32  28.32  28.32
(--) S3: clocks:  25.17  28.32  28.32  28.32  25.17  28.32  28.32  28.32
(--) S3: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 110.000 MHz
(**) S3: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  25.175, clock used =  25.170
(--) S3: There is no defined dot-clock matching mode 800x600
(--) S3: Removing mode 800x600 from list of valid modes.
(--) S3: There is no defined dot-clock matching mode 1024x768
(--) S3: Removing mode 1024x768 from list of valid modes.
(--) S3: Using 6 bits per RGB value
(--) S3: Virtual resolution set to 640x480
(--) S3: Using a banksize of 64k, line width of 1024
(--) S3: Using a single 64x64 area at (640,0) for expanding pixmaps
(--) S3: Using 8 planes of 1024x543 at (0,481) aligned 8 as font cache
PEX extension module not loaded
XIE extension module not loaded
failed to set default font path 
'/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/'
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

but whre is this defined??


_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

help.  i'm losing the fight.

rick




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Re: how to change motd ?

1997-06-18 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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 stop it from doing that!!

/etc/init.d/boot replaces the first line of /etc/motd, the rest of it
should be left intact.  If you really don't like that behavior, feel free
to modify /etc/init.d/boot :)

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Re: UUCP mail gets queued instead of sent

1997-06-18 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Eloy A. Paris wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 sorry again for the off-topic question...
 
 following the advice several people in the list gave to me last week,
 I set up UUCP to handle e-mail between our main office and our remote
 branch offices.
 
 I can write e-mail and it gets sent to the UUCP job queue. Later, when the
 systems connect, the jobs are processed and rmail is run in the remote host.
 Everything is fine except that rmail (sendmail?) queues the new messages.
 Of course, Sendmail processes later the mail queue when it is time (-qxxm
 parameter when sendmail is started where xx is the number of minutes)
 and mail gets delivered.
 
 What I want to know is if there is a way mail can be sent right away
 without queuing it after the remote job (rmail) is done.
 
 Thanks in advance for any suggestion you UUCP/Sendmail gurus.

If you're using UUCP to transport your mail then is it necessary to 
run sendmail in queue-mode? Otherwise there really isn't a way to fix
your problem is kinda non-trivial (but certainly possible!)

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Re: how to change motd ?

1997-06-18 Thread Joost Kooij


On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Christopher Ray Martin wrote:

 I've noticed that /etc/motd is always replaced by Debian upon bootup. I
 was wondering where it gets the contents which replaces it, and how I can
 stop it from doing that!!

From /etc/init.d/boot:

---begin /etc/init.d/boot

snip

# Set EDITMOTD to no if you don't want /etc/motd to be editted 
# automatically
EDITMOTD=yes

snip

#
# Update /etc/motd.
#
if [ $EDITMOTD != no ]
then
uname -a  /tmp/motd
sed 1d /etc/motd  /tmp/motd
mv /tmp/motd /etc/motd
fi

snip

---end /etc/init.d/boot

Just edit /etc/init.d/boot and set EDITMOTD to no. Or replace the if
part with some code that merges in a fortune cookie or whatever else that
suits you. 

Be careful for the following: /etc/init.d/boot comes with the package
sysvinit. Every time you upgrade or reinstall this package, dpkg will ask
you if you want to replace the existing /etc/init.d/boot with the package
maintainers version. Always install the package maintainers' version of
/etc/init.d/boot, because it is a very non-trivial configuration file and
changes in it between versions are also non-trivial. Just re-adapt the new
/etc/init.d/boot to your wishes.

Have fun,


Joost


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Re: ack! x has been hosed

1997-06-18 Thread Alexandre Lebrun
For the fonts, you need at least xfntbase, and xfnt75 is probably 
necessary, too.

For the video modes, I think there is no problem. Xfree 3.3 seems to give 
much more choice than before. look at your /etc/X11/XF86Config file.
Some modes are for low-end hardware, others for 21 (or 25)  or bigger 
monitors with fast graphic cards... Great.

You should have at least this mode working :
# 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 800x600 40 800  840  968 1056   600  601  605  628 
+hsync +vs
ync
This worked with my old 14 (max 37.9kHz !). 
So I guess you misspelled the Monitor specs.


Install more fonts. Obviously some are missing.
For example I have 
xfnt75, xfnt100, xfntbase, xfntscaled installed.

You have a valid mode at 640x480 so this is not the problem.
Be sure to check HorizSync and VertRefresh in section Monitor, though.


'man XF86Config' is your friend, too.

Alexandre




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Re: fvwm95-2 won't work

1997-06-18 Thread Matthew Tebbens
Just installed it myself, from what I remember there is no default config
file. You have to rename one of the installed config files to what
fvwm95-2 is looking for (forgot the name right now).

Matthew


On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote:

 I don't know what happended, but what I upgraded from fvwm95 to fvwm95-2,
 fvwm95-2 doesn't work anymore.  I'm not even getting any errors in the
 .xsession-errors file or on the console.  Did the new installation
 wiped-out the default settings or is just not working?
 
 Alberto Ruiz
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 PS. Thanks to all who helped on the afterstep color problem :) .  But I
 still want to switch to fvwm95. 
 
 
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Re: PDF Writer

1997-06-18 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Carlo U. Segre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: Does anyone know of a program which writes PDF files under Linux?

For free I don't know. May be Adobe sells a version for Linux. I downloaded
from their Web site Acrobat Reader for Linux. It works great and installed
with no problems under Debian.

E.-


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Re: ack! x has been hosed

1997-06-18 Thread Ciccio
 
 I got X going by using XF86Setup.  Initially, when done, it ran
 xvidtune.  Now, no such luck.  I ultimately ended up removing all of the
 xpackages and reinstalling, but still no.  It seems to be unhappy about
 a missing default font.
 
try using mkfontdir on the listed dirs.

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Re: xfig cannot handle colors in 16-bit mode

1997-06-18 Thread Ciccio
 Hello,
 
 I recently bought a new VGA card, and switched to 16-bit mode for X11,
 but I just found out that xfig can't handle colors now.  When I try to
 select a color, xfig prints the message Can't allocate necessary
 colorcells, can't popup color panel.  This is obviously true, since
 X11 doesn't allocate color cells in 16-bit mode, but it is not
 necessary.  Is there a workaround to tell xfig to use the existing
 colors, or can I tell X11 to simulate a writeable colormap?  I didn't
 see that a bug report has been filed on this yet.
 
I'd don't use xfig, so no specific answer. If you have enough RAM,
try to get X into DirectColor mode. BTW, there are reasons why one
would like to use a color map even with 32 bit colors: when we want
to change colors without repainting all the image. This is used as
well for animations as for color (gamma, etc) corrections.

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Re: Can't deinstall package

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 16, Mark Phillips wrote
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a package kernel-source-1.99.7 which for some reason is half
 installed.  When I try to deinstall it I get this:
[snip]
 
 How do I get rid of it?

If reinstalling the package really isn't an option, you can try passing the
--force-remove-reinstreq to dpkg when removing the package.

  Christian


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Re: POP mail questions

1997-06-18 Thread gvl
  And what if I want multiple accounts to be processed properly.  I.ll 
have a different login for each email address on my local machine, but 
they each need to go out properly. Eg.

gvlp == [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (mail host == plus.com)
gvlu == [EMAIL PROTECTED](mail host == pop.netaddress.com [POP3 in] and 
   mail.netaddress.com [SMTP out]) 
snl == [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (see above)
gvlh == [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (just an example, the others are real but I may 
 want to expand the idea 
 later.) 

What would I need to set up to get that working, AND to ensure internally 
written mail goes to the proper box WITHOUT having to be sent to the 
smarthost just to turn around and come right back.

  My machine name is Force1 (currently Force1.plus.com when online with a 
static IP assigned --- ping 199.1.12.165 to see if I am online and check 
IRC #Debian if I am)

On 16 Jun 97,  debian-user@lists.debian.org wrote regarding:
__ Re: POP mail questions __

 
 In you /etc/smail/config file append together.net to your hostnames= line
 thusly:
 
 hostnames=gologotha:whatever-else-you-have:together.net
 
 then add the following new config parameter:
 
 visible_name=together.net
 
 That should do it but the visible name must also appear in the hostnames
 line.
 
 
 
 Would you or anyone know how I could implement a rule so that smail (or
  whatever program handles this sort of thing) would rewrite any outgoing
  messages to correct the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to become
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (together.net is of course my ISP)?
  
| Debian GNU/ __  o
   Regards, |/ / _  _  _  _  _ __  __
   .|   / /__  / / / \// //_// \ \/ /
   Randy|  // /_/ /_/\/ /___/  /_/\_\
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  |  ...because lockups are for convicts...
  
  
 
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Re: PDF Writer

1997-06-18 Thread Erv Walter
On 18 Jun 1997, Eloy A. Paris wrote:

 Carlo U. Segre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 : Does anyone know of a program which writes PDF files under Linux?
 
 For free I don't know. May be Adobe sells a version for Linux. I downloaded
 from their Web site Acrobat Reader for Linux. It works great and installed
 with no problems under Debian.
 

Aladdin Ghostscript comes with a script called ps2pdf that converts a
postscript file to pdf.

Erv

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Re: Elvis problems in X (was: Re: No Termcap)

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 
 I have a question about elvis, rxvt and termcap. I think the Debian package
 of elvis still needs termcap.

Nope.

Package: elvis
Priority: optional
Section: editors
Installed-Size: 775
Maintainer: Erik B. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Version: 2.0-8
Replaces: elvisnox, elvisx11, elv-vi
Provides: elviscmn
Depends: libc5 (= 5.4.13-1), ncurses3.0, xlib6 (= 3.2-0)
[snip]^^

As you can see, it uses ncurses (which uses 'terminfo' for its terminal
database), not termcap.

 Does anybody have the same experience or am I the only one with this
 problem? BTW, the only reason I have for running rxvt is the color support
 that is default. Does anyone know an easy way to get color support in the
 xterm that comes with the Debian installation of X?
 

To get color by default in xterm's, add the line

XTerm*customization:-color

to the file /etc/X11/Xresources. Works for me.

I don't do vi, so I can't really help you with your problems. But are you
using the elvis Debian package? I got the impression from your message that
you aren't. If so, you might want to install it and see if it works
better. And if it doesn't, you should file a bug report about it. It's real
easy. Just email [EMAIL PROTECTED] The first line of your message
should say Package: elvis, the second line should say Version: 2.0-8
(or whatever version you have installed). Then you explain what doesn't
work right, including error message given by the programs, etc. The more
details, the better.

  Christian


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Re: ack! x has been hosed

1997-06-18 Thread Britton

 I got X going by using XF86Setup.  Initially, when done, it ran
 xvidtune.  Now, no such luck.  I ultimately ended up removing all of the
 xpackages and reinstalling, but still no.  It seems to be unhappy about
 a missing default font.

I too have been wrestling with configuration of X of late.

Did you install all the font packages?  The dependency structure didn't
alert me to their necisity but the server worn't start without them.  I
think it is a 'one of the set is needed' issue, but I thought I read that
Debian had a dependency mechanism to represent this situation.  

Also, when you removed X, did you select to purge configuration files
(using _ instead of -) ?  I had a problem with X trying to load the S3V
server and it took me forever to realize that just removing and
re-installing isn't always enough, you have to make sure the old config
files are gone also.  It seems to me this is a bug in the server packages.
When removed they should not leave lines in config files packaged with
xbase (IIRC) trying to launch them.  


 these figures seem outrageously high:

 (--) S3: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.

I'm not so sure.  My server runs in 1280x1024, but it looks extremely bad
(extreme flicker around edges, pixel columns are out of line, exactly the
stuff you would expect if my monitors maximum hsync of 69 kHz was too
low).  If anyone knows how to fix this Im all ears.

 (--) S3: Diamond Stealth BIOS found
 (--) S3: chipset:   911 
 (--) S3: chipset driver: s3_generic
 (--) S3: videoram:  1024k
 (**) S3: Ramdac type: normal
 (--) S3: Ramdac speed: 110
 
 ??? should i have defined a different ramdac?  what is one, anyway?

You might want to open up and take a look at your chip.  I had the one
chip from IBM that is not detected in mine (IBM RGB 526).  Good question
about what the little buggers are.

 PEX extension module not loaded
 XIE extension module not loaded

I have this problem also.  I installed the packages, why are they not
being loaded?  I suspect this might have somethig to do with the failure
of many apps (9wm, xmix) that complain about not being able to load
libraries in /usr/X11R6/lib that definately are there, I have checked.

 help.  i'm losing the fight.

Onward christian soldier.  Try purging configs if you havn't done it.
Good luck.

 rick


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100 Mbit Ethernet

1997-06-18 Thread Richard L Shepherd
This is just a quickie, and I'm sure it's an easy one too:

Does Linux support any/all 100 Mbit capable ethernet cards?  i.e. is it
possible to use 100 Mbit ethernet with Linux?

I have no such machines (though I have some that drive 100 Mbit capable
cards at 10 Mb, since that's what the nets they're on are at).  I'm just
checking to make sure there are 100 Mb drivers too...

Please reply by email...

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Re: Can't deinstall package

1997-06-18 Thread Mark Phillips
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:

 On Jun 16, Mark Phillips wrote
  
  I have a package kernel-source-1.99.7 which for some reason is half
  installed.  When I try to deinstall it I get this:
 [snip]
  
  How do I get rid of it?
 
 If reinstalling the package really isn't an option, you can try passing the
 --force-remove-reinstreq to dpkg when removing the package.

Thanks for the advice.  I gave it a go and came up with:

# dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq kernel-source-1.99.7
dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:
 Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
 reinstall it before attempting a removal.
(Reading database ... 28305 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing kernel-source-1.99.7 ...
The file /usr/src/.linux-versions does not exist. This is an 
misconfiguration, making it hard to provide a /usr/src/linux
symlink if the latest target is removed.

Please Hit return to continue.

Error: /usr/src/linux not a symbolic link, not removing.
dpkg: error processing kernel-source-1.99.7 (--remove):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 kernel-source-1.99.7



So I still can't get rid of it.  Any more ideas?

Thanks.


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Re: 100 Mbit Ethernet

1997-06-18 Thread dpk
I actually did this today... I replaced my old bnc/twisted pair SMC card
with a 10/100 Switchable SMC which has the 21040 DEC chipset on it (tulip
driver). We are using a 100 Mbit hub and have noticed a great deal speed
increase with it.  It seems as if the only thing that slows me down are my
scsi harddrives when downloading large files!  

They still use the same drivers for the corresponding chipsets.  In my
case I didn't have to even recompile my kernel because the DEC 21040 and
the 21041 use the same driver.  I hope you have the same success and
pleasure as I.  

Dennis

On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Richard L Shepherd wrote:

 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 13:08:06 +1200 (NZST)
 From: Richard L Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
 Subject: 100 Mbit Ethernet
 Resent-Date: 18 Jun 1997 02:06:11 -
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 This is just a quickie, and I'm sure it's an easy one too:
 
 Does Linux support any/all 100 Mbit capable ethernet cards?  i.e. is it
 possible to use 100 Mbit ethernet with Linux?
 
 I have no such machines (though I have some that drive 100 Mbit capable
 cards at 10 Mb, since that's what the nets they're on are at).  I'm just
 checking to make sure there are 100 Mb drivers too...
 
 Please reply by email...
 
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Re: Can't deinstall package

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 18, Mark Phillips wrote
 
 Thanks for the advice.  I gave it a go and came up with:
 
 # dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq kernel-source-1.99.7
 dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:
  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
 (Reading database ... 28305 files and directories currently installed.)
 Removing kernel-source-1.99.7 ...
 The file /usr/src/.linux-versions does not exist. This is an 
 misconfiguration, making it hard to provide a /usr/src/linux
 symlink if the latest target is removed.
 
 Please Hit return to continue.
 
 Error: /usr/src/linux not a symbolic link, not removing.
 dpkg: error processing kernel-source-1.99.7 (--remove):
  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  kernel-source-1.99.7
 
 So I still can't get rid of it.  Any more ideas?

Hmm.

You installed your own kernels over the one that kernel-source-1.99.7 had
installed, right? Did you remove the 1.99.7 kernel source tree by hand or
is it still lying around somewhere under /usr/src or have you moved it
somewhere else? Could you also tack on the contents of the postinst script
(i.e. /var/lib/dpkg/info/kernel-source-1.99.7.postinst) to your next
message? 

Btw, is the kernel-package maintainer reading this?

  Christian



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Re: Can't deinstall package

1997-06-18 Thread Rick Hawkins


 Thanks for the advice.  I gave it a go and came up with:
 
 # dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq kernel-source-1.99.7
 dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:
  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
 (Reading database ... 28305 files and directories currently installed.)
 Removing kernel-source-1.99.7 ...
 The file /usr/src/.linux-versions does not exist. This is an 
 misconfiguration, making it hard to provide a /usr/src/linux
 symlink if the latest target is removed.

I had this problem some time back.  try editing /var/lib/dpkg/status,
and change the entry for this package to not installed.  Then remove
the offending directories, install the package, and remove it.

rick


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Re: 100 Mbit Ethernet

1997-06-18 Thread Daniel Laffin

I actually just got a switch with a 100Mb port on it and I have a news
server that was going to go on the end of that for now, but I wasnt quite
sure how to get debian to recognize that fact.  Checking ifconfig it still
says 10Mb, but i haven't really looked into it much yetto many other
things to fix

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On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Richard L Shepherd wrote:

 This is just a quickie, and I'm sure it's an easy one too:
 
 Does Linux support any/all 100 Mbit capable ethernet cards?  i.e. is it
 possible to use 100 Mbit ethernet with Linux?
 
 I have no such machines (though I have some that drive 100 Mbit capable
 cards at 10 Mb, since that's what the nets they're on are at).  I'm just
 checking to make sure there are 100 Mb drivers too...
 
 Please reply by email...
 
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Re: Can't deinstall package

1997-06-18 Thread Mark Phillips
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:

 On Jun 18, Mark Phillips wrote
  
  Thanks for the advice.  I gave it a go and came up with:
  
  # dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq kernel-source-1.99.7
  dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:
   Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
   reinstall it before attempting a removal.
  (Reading database ... 28305 files and directories currently installed.)
  Removing kernel-source-1.99.7 ...
  The file /usr/src/.linux-versions does not exist. This is an 
  misconfiguration, making it hard to provide a /usr/src/linux
  symlink if the latest target is removed.
  
  Please Hit return to continue.
  
  Error: /usr/src/linux not a symbolic link, not removing.
  dpkg: error processing kernel-source-1.99.7 (--remove):
   subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
  Errors were encountered while processing:
   kernel-source-1.99.7
  
  So I still can't get rid of it.  Any more ideas?
 
 Hmm.
 
 You installed your own kernels over the one that kernel-source-1.99.7 had
 installed, right? Did you remove the 1.99.7 kernel source tree by hand or
 is it still lying around somewhere under /usr/src or have you moved it
 somewhere else?

Wrong.  I have not done anything by hand relating to kernels.  I think
the problem arose originally when I first installed Debian.  I installed
Debian 1.1 after it had just come out.  The kernel it provided was 2.0
hot off the press (so it could claim to be the first distribution with
the 2.0 kernel).  However the source package that went with it was
the 1.99.7 one.  For some reason I don't think it installed properly
back then.  I didn't worry about it at the time as I had no need to
roll my own kernel and I had other difficulties to worry about.
I have upgraded my system a number of times (currently 1.3) and each
time the problem with kernel-source-1.99.7 has remained.  It's only
recently that I've tried to fix the problem and it seems I can't.

 Could you also tack on the contents of the postinst script
 (i.e. /var/lib/dpkg/info/kernel-source-1.99.7.postinst) to your next
 message? 

I have included it at the end of the message.

Thanks.

-
Mark Phillips  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
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/var/lib/dpkg/info/kernel-source-1.99.7.postinst:

#! /bin/perl
#  -*- Mode: Perl -*- 
# debian.postinst --- 
# Author   : Manoj Srivastava ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) 
# Created On   : Sat Apr 27 05:42:43 1996
# Created On Node  : melkor.pilgrim.umass.edu
# Last Modified By : root
# Last Modified On : Sun May 19 02:36:13 1996
# Last Machine Used: melkor.pilgrim.umass.edu
# Update Count : 7
# Status   : Unknown, Use with caution!
# HISTORY  : 
# Description  : 
# 
# 


$|=1;

# Predefined values:
my $package=kernel-source-1.99.7;

# Ignore all invocations uxcept when called on to configure.
exit 0 unless ($ARGV[0]  $ARGV[0] =~ /configure/);

# most of our work is done in /usr/src.
chdir '/usr/src' or die Could not chdir to /usr/src:$!;

# Test if we need to do anything at all. This test and exit make us
# idempotent. 

if (-e 'linux'  ! -l 'linux') {
  my $answer;
  print STDERR EOF;
 Error configuring $package: /usr/src/linux does not seem to be a 
   symbolic link, possibly from an old package or a left-over from a 
   user installed kernel. Please remove /usr/src/linux and try to
   reconfigure $package.  

 Please Hit return to continue.
EOF
  $answer = STDIN;
  exit 1;
}

# fine.  We now have a link.
my $old_target='';
$old_target = readlink('linux') if -e 'linux';
die could not read link /usr/src/linux:$! unless defined $old_target;

# before we change the link, let us make sure that if the file
# .linux-versions exists, we can read and write to it.
if (-f '.linux-versions') {
  my $answer;
  if (! -r '.linux-versions'  -w _) {
print STDERR ERR;
 The file /usr/src/.linux-versions should be read and writable. ($!)
 Please change permissions and reconfigure $package.

 Please Hit return to continue.
ERR
  ;
$answer = STDIN;
exit 1;
  }
}
else {
  my $answer;
  open(REGISTRY,/usr/src/.linux-versions) || do {
print STDERR ERR;
 The file /usr/src/.linux-versions should be read and writable. ($!)
 Please change permissions and reconfigure $package.

 Please Hit return to continue.
ERR
  ;
$answer = STDIN;
exit 1;
  };
  print REGISTRY REG;
# This is a list of the current versions of Linux kernel sources or
# kernel header packages on the system.
REG
  ;
  close(REGISTRY);
}

## Another paranoid check before we do anything:
if (! -d $package) {
  my $answer;
  print STDERR I could not find the directory /usr/src/$package.\n;
  print STDERR This is very, very, wrong. I'm 

Re: plog doesn't work anymore under 1.3

1997-06-18 Thread Mark Phillips
On 16 Jun 1997, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:

  MP == Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 MP Hi,
 
 MP I had a look at /var/log/ppp.log and it is empty.  It seems like
 MP this file is no longer written to???
 
 MP Any ideas?
 
 What's in /etc/syslog.conf? 
 
 If this file has been replaced by the upgrade process, I think the old
 file is copied as /etc/syslog.conf.dpkg-old (AFAIR).  

Yes, this may be the problem.  I did a 
diff /etc/syslog.conf /etc/syslog.conf.dpkg-old 
and came up with:

7,8c7
 daemon.*  -/var/log/daemon.log
 mail.*/var/log/mail.log
---
 daemon.*;mail.*   -/var/log/daemon.log
28a28
 local2.*  -/var/log/ppp.log


Does this mean there is a bug with the upgrade procedure?
Should I change back to the old file?

Thanks,

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Startup message

1997-06-18 Thread Adam Klein
Every time I start up my system I get the following message:

starting /sbin/syslogd ...
/etc/rc2.d/S10sysklogd: line 38:64 Interruptstart-stop-daemon
--start --verbose --exec /sbin/syslogd $SYSLOGD

What does this mean?  What should I do?  I just upgraded to Debian 1.3.


Adam Klein


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RE: ack! x has been hosed

1997-06-18 Thread David Puryear
Hi Rick,

On 17-Jun-97 You wrote:
  
  I got X going by using XF86Setup.  Initially, when done, it ran
  xvidtune.  Now, no such luck.  I ultimately ended up removing all of the
  xpackages and reinstalling, but still no.  It seems to be unhappy about
  a missing default font.

Did you save the XF86Config in XF86Setup? If not rerun XF86Setup and don't use 
the old XF86Config as the default. Once XF86Setup is done, save the XF86Config 
before doing anything else. You can run xvidtune after you start the X, so don't
try to run it in the XF86Setup.
  
  (**) S3: Ramdac type: normal
  (--) S3: Ramdac speed: 110

Make sure you picked right xserver and that you have installed it using dselect 
or with dpkg -i. 
  
  ??? should i have defined a different ramdac?  what is one, anyway?

You shouldn't have to define ramdac. The XF86Setup will probe it if left blank, 
and this goes for any setting in video card section. Just make sure you pick the
right xserver.
  
  (--) S3: clocks:  25.98  28.32  28.32   0.00  25.17  28.32  28.32  28.32
  (--) S3: clocks:  25.17  28.32  28.32  28.32  25.17  28.32  28.32  28.32

I don't think these clocks are right. So let the XF86Setup generate new 
XF86Config, which, hopefully, have new clocks setting. 

Once you have new XF86Config file, then see how many errors you still get.

Cheers,
David


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Install Debian on Amiga 1200... HELP!!!

1997-06-18 Thread Iñaki
Kaixo!!!

 I need to intall Debian 1.3.x on Amiga 1200, so i need info..

 I have Debian installed on Pentium (i386 platform), but i have no idea about
amiga.

 I have an Amiga 1200 with an IDE 240 HD, PCMCIA SCSI, IDE Cd-ROM...

 Can anybody help me

 Thanks.

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Re: POP mail questions

1997-06-18 Thread George Bonser

You need to 

1) Stop using me as a mail relay.  Any futher attempts at that will result
in mail for your domain being routed to /dev/null unless you ask my
permission first.  I do have a system set up specificly FOR UUCP mail MX
hosting that I can set you up a UUCP over TCP/IP account on if you like
and you can set up an MX record pointing there if you like.

2) set up an alias for sendmail in that user's home directory that calls
smail with a specific config file for that user.



On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   And what if I want multiple accounts to be processed properly.  I.ll 
 have a different login for each email address on my local machine, but 
 they each need to go out properly. Eg.
 
 gvlp == [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (mail host == plus.com)
 gvlu == [EMAIL PROTECTED](mail host == pop.netaddress.com [POP3 in] and 
mail.netaddress.com [SMTP out]) 
 snl == [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (see above)
 gvlh == [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (just an example, the others are real but I may 
  want to expand the idea 
  later.) 
 
 What would I need to set up to get that working, AND to ensure internally 
 written mail goes to the proper box WITHOUT having to be sent to the 
 smarthost just to turn around and come right back.
 
   My machine name is Force1 (currently Force1.plus.com when online with a 
 static IP assigned --- ping 199.1.12.165 to see if I am online and check 
 IRC #Debian if I am)
 
 On 16 Jun 97,  debian-user@lists.debian.org wrote regarding:
 __ Re: POP mail questions __
 
  
  In you /etc/smail/config file append together.net to your hostnames= line
  thusly:
  
  hostnames=gologotha:whatever-else-you-have:together.net
  
  then add the following new config parameter:
  
  visible_name=together.net
  
  That should do it but the visible name must also appear in the hostnames
  line.
  
  
  
  Would you or anyone know how I could implement a rule so that smail (or
   whatever program handles this sort of thing) would rewrite any outgoing
   messages to correct the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to become
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (together.net is of course my ISP)?
   
 | Debian GNU/ __  o
Regards, |/ / _  _  _  _  _ __  __
.|   / /__  / / / \// //_// \ \/ /
Randy|  // /_/ /_/\/ /___/  /_/\_\
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Re: POP mail questions

1997-06-18 Thread dthayer
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Stan Brown wrote:

   I have anacount on Netcom that I hav historically used as my primary
   mail receipt/reading/sending place. The response over the net has
   become pretty bad for interactive use, and the Netcom version of elm
   doesn't understand MIME.
 
   What I would like to do is contimue to use my Netcom address, download
   my mail for local reading, and uplad outgoing mail such that it still
   show Netcom as the point of origin. 
[...]

I am using just such a setup. A few notes:

1) Since netcom doesn't provide slip/ppp to shell account holders, you 
   will have to fake it using slirp (which is what I use), tia, or possibly 
   term. If you haven't already set this up, let me know off the list since 
   this isn't really Debian specific.
   
2) I use fetchmail to retrieve my messages, It injects them into port 25
   of my linux box for smail to feed to my spool via procmail. Here's my
   .fechmailrc (edited):
   
   poll 10.0.2.2 protocol POP3 user dthayer password noneofyourbusiness
   
3) I use smail as my mail handling agent. I answered the questions in 
   smailconf yielding the following /etc/smail/routers file (indented 
   and minus the standard comments)
   
   smart_host:
   driver=smarthost, transport=smtp;
   path=mail.netcom.com
   
3) I have pine set up to (un)fake my address back to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED] This can also be configured into
   smail somehow if elm doesn't support this, check the archives.
   
This setup works great, I can read and compose my mail off line, smail 
spools it until next time I log in. The only thing left for me is to 
setup a procmail recipe on my netcom account to reject obvious spam so
that it never gets downloaded

your pal dave

Dave Thayer
Denver, Colorado USA
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Re: Upgrade path to 1.3 - Chicken Egg problem

1997-06-18 Thread Edouard Katz
At 17:13 17/6/97 +0200, you wrote:


On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Edouard Katz wrote:

 At 22:58 16/6/97 +0200, you wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have a standalone Debian 1.2 machine ;( - so here is what I plan to do:
  
  1. Identify all packages that where updated on 1.3 and dld them, including
 the Packages file.
  
 How do you do that ?

Joost,

Well I think I'd better explain my situation:

Have decide recently to move to Debian (fully support its policy) so I went
on the net and found the necessary stuff to install the base1_3 system.
Installed very well without a problem on my old 486/33 no CD. The only way
to install from a CD is to mount the CD on a server in our site and export
it for NFS mounting.

The problem is that I have installed the base1_3 system and just got my CD
that is Debian 1.2 Release  What do I do ?? I HATE the downloads over
the net even if here at work I can do it freely !! Do I go backward to 1.2
?? Or - do I have a list of 1.3 files that are really required for
operation, development environment that I will have to dld and the remaining
stuff can be used from the 1.2 CD.

I need to have a clean  devlp. environment, need that the libs be uptodate,
I believe that I can live with the X environment of the 1.2 distrib.

That's the situation, a specific list of 1.3  files essential from /net
/libs /dev 

Thanks,
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Re: long user names for POP mailboxes

1997-06-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tuesday 17 June 97, at 11 h 12, the keyboard of Al Youngwerth 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's my setup: smail 3.2.3, fetchmail 3.9.8 and the standard in.pop3d
 that comes with Debian.

Drop it. Last time I checked (can anyone confirm this is still the 
case?), this thing didn't even log the attempted logins with wrong 
passwords. A cracker could use it to try every guessable password on your 
site. Use qpopper instead (available as a Debian package).



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XFree 3.3 need /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy?

1997-06-18 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
This is my /var/log/xdm-errors

XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: Jun  2 1997
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
  newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us_microsoft) (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) Mouse: type: MouseMan, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200
(**) S3: Graphics device ID: S3
(**) S3: Monitor ID: Acer
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X
11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(--) S3: PCI: Trio32/64 rev 40, Linear FB @ 0xf000
(--) S3: chipset:   Trio64V+ rev. 41
(--) S3: chipset driver: newmmio
(--) S3: card type: PCI
(--) S3: videoram:  2048k
(--) S3: Ramdac type: s3_trio64
(--) S3: Ramdac speed: 135 MHz
(--) S3: Using Trio32/64 programmable clock (MCLK 50.114 MHz)
(--) S3: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 80.000 MHz
(**) S3: Mode 1024x768: mode clock =  80.000
(**) S3: Mode 800x600: mode clock =  69.650
(**) S3: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  45.800
(**) S3: Mode 320x200: mode clock =  12.588
(**) S3: Using 16 bpp.  Color weight: 565
(--) S3: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768
(--) S3: Local bus LAW is 0xF000
(--) S3: Using a banksize of 2048k, line width of 1024
(--) S3: Using a single 64x64 area at (960,769) for expanding pixmaps
(--) S3: Using 16 planes of 960x255 at (0,769) aligned 8 as font cache
error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy

What does it mean the last line?

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Re: making debian packages

1997-06-18 Thread Leszek Gerwatowski
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote:

 [Charset iso-8859-2 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
  I've made my own deb file with polonisation stuff for tetex. I know that
  other people may want to use it so i think about putting it in contrib
  directory. 
 
 Why in the contrib directory? Why don't you want to become a maintainer?
 
 Only if you don't want to maintain (correct bugs found) the package
 afterwards, it should be put in non free (there are other cases, but
 I don't think they apply here). Generally, Debian isn't too keen
 on non-maintained packages, as they will probably have to be removed
 in the future (when we use different libs etc), and will only result
 in user-irritation in the long run.
 
 How to become a maintainer: see
 

First of all I WANT to maintain my package. But I don't have so much time
to do all the things described in debian-policy. I've made this package
and I want to share my work with others. I know that there are many
people in Poland which want to use this package (few of them already use
it as testers). Second of all my package is not so typical becouse it's
made rather as a bunch of other packages which can be found on the Net
then my own work. I've just generated all needed files from instalation
scripts in those packages and put it in right places so teTeX can use it
(naturally my work was to choose dirs, to choose files needed and to
write small debian installation script which configures teTeX to use my
package but that's all).
Becouse in tetex-pl (so it's called by me) there are 3 packages with
non-GPL licencies and the main difference is that authors want to
distribute the whole package with sources and not only separate files from
it I had to put whole packages in tetex-pl. Now I know that it can by
freely distributed (in sesn of GPL). But in fact there is no
tetex-pl-source package at all (all sources and original docs are in
tetex-pl) so as I understand I cannot put it in main distribution. It can
be freely distributed so not in non-free. So I think myself that it should
be in contrib directory.

So now you have much more information and I wait for good advise for me.
Naturally thanks all of you for making such great product as Debian
and thanks to Joost Witteveen for this message.


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Re: xfig cannot handle colors in 16-bit mode

1997-06-18 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi Carl,

which version do you use? 3.2.0-beta3 from 'stable' works pretty well
here. The docs say that True- and PseudoColor Visual support have been
added as of 3.2. 3.1.4 will not work.

Regards,

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Re: fvwm95-2 won't work

1997-06-18 Thread joost witteveen
 Just installed it myself, from what I remember there is no default config
 file. You have to rename one of the installed config files to what
 fvwm95-2 is looking for (forgot the name right now).


This appears to be right, indeed (I would suggest that the postinst
of fvwm95-2 copyies that example system.fvwm2rc95 file, just before
the 'update-menus' call).

But there is (for the users) an other solution: just install the menu
package, and you'll get a system.fvwm2rc95 file that has most of
the applications that are installed on your system in it's menu.

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Re: X install under 1.2

1997-06-18 Thread Jim Michael


On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Bob Clark wrote:
  'cldg5429' is an invalid chipset.

 This should be clgd not cldg!  If this was just a typo in your post, you

Typo. I tried many chipsets. SuperProbe says its a 5429.

Cheers,

Jim


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Diald won't work after 1.2-1.3(Fixed)

1997-06-18 Thread Lu Jimmy Chenji
Thanks for all your useful inputs from this mailing list.
My diald is working( I think) now.  What has happened is
that after upgrading from 1.2 to 1.3, diald stop working.
Somebody in the list mensioned to do incremental upgrading.
So I started to upgrade Req base section only and hold other
sections(Std, Devel, Xtra ).  After upgrading Req base
section, diald stopped working.  So I thought there was a
file causing diald not working.  I then restored 1.2 from
my backup tape and upgrading file one by one in Req base
section.  I have noticed there is a file called setserial.
The name rings a bell.  Diald needs comm port.  Does this
program execute after boot up my pc?  Any way, I hold this
program for upgrade and upgraded everything else.  Now 
diald works.  Does this mean there is something different
in setserial 2.12-2 from 2.10-8?  Please give me some idea.
Thanks,
Jimmy Lu


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where is mgetty-voice

1997-06-18 Thread Adrian Bridgett
Where is the mgetty-voice package? I have had a (quick) look in mgetty
and mgetty-fax, but couldn't see it. I have looked at the entire site :-(

Thanks in advance,

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linux 2.1.x -- poor multitasking?

1997-06-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Does anyone else find the multitasking in Linux 2.1.42 and thereabouts
pretty bad? My system is a Cyrix 6x86-P150+ with 32mb, and while
I'm compiling the kernel for example, other processes run very
slowly, especially when accessing the disk; it can take
five seconds to get another prompt, a long time to login, etc.
The load isn't very high either.

It doesn't happen in 2.0.30; I first noticed it around 2.1.3x.
I do have Triton DMA support enabled, in case it's relevant.

Anyone else having this problem? Unfortunately I don't
subscribe to linux-kernel because I expect the volume is very high.

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Re: linux 2.1.x -- poor multitasking?

1997-06-18 Thread compwiz


On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 Does anyone else find the multitasking in Linux 2.1.42 and thereabouts
 pretty bad? My system is a Cyrix 6x86-P150+ with 32mb, and while
 I'm compiling the kernel for example, other processes run very
 slowly, especially when accessing the disk; it can take
 five seconds to get another prompt, a long time to login, etc.
 The load isn't very high either.
 
 It doesn't happen in 2.0.30; I first noticed it around 2.1.3x.

Remember version 2.1.x is still considered developmental, in that case
there could be many bugs or other inefficienies.


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Re: making debian packages

1997-06-18 Thread joost witteveen
 On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote:
 
  [Charset iso-8859-2 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
   I've made my own deb file with polonisation stuff for tetex. I know that
   other people may want to use it so i think about putting it in contrib
   directory. 
  
  Why in the contrib directory? Why don't you want to become a maintainer?
  
  Only if you don't want to maintain (correct bugs found) the package
  afterwards, it should be put in non free (there are other cases, but
  I don't think they apply here). Generally, Debian isn't too keen
  on non-maintained packages, as they will probably have to be removed
  in the future (when we use different libs etc), and will only result
  in user-irritation in the long run.
  
  How to become a maintainer: see
  
 
 First of all I WANT to maintain my package. But I don't have so much time
 to do all the things described in debian-policy.

Are you sure you don't have enough time? You describe you've got
beta testers trying you package (and apparently you fix the bugs they
report), you are asking us on debian-user, so it seems to me you're
an excelent candidate for a new debian package maintainer (only
if you already know now that in one year time, you are never
going to speak polish, or use debian any more, then you'd be a worce
candidate, but that doesn't seem to be the case eigther)

 I've made this package and I want to share my work with others.

Note, btw, that those others probably isn't restricted to polish
Debian users: how about russian ones, that want to learn from how
you did things? And, come to russian, even I would install tegex-ru 
(if it ever is released), as my brother lives in Moscow now and it
might be fun to write something in russian to him. So, by making
the package a true debian package, there may be many more people
that indirectly benifit form your work than you realise.

 Second of all my package is not so typical becouse it's
 made rather as a bunch of other packages which can be found on the Net
 then my own work.

I maintain about 10 different packages. Only one or two is my own work,
the others are stuff found on the net. True, for example my gs package
is mostly one package found on the net, but by collecting many different
files around the internet, and putting them in the right locations so
that polish people can write poslish out of the box, you are just
making your package more valuable than just my gs package: If there were
no gs package, people could easily download it themselves, and run it.
Your package, however, saves many people a much more work.

 Becouse in tetex-pl (so it's called by me) there are 3 packages with
 non-GPL licencies and the main difference is that authors want to
 distribute the whole package with sources and not only separate files from
 it I had to put whole packages in tetex-pl. Now I know that it can by
 freely distributed (in sesn of GPL). But in fact there is no
 tetex-pl-source package at all (all sources and original docs are in
 tetex-pl) so as I understand I cannot put it in main distribution. It can
 be freely distributed so not in non-free. So I think myself that it should
 be in contrib directory.

I am not sure I fully understand this:
What I understand is:

  you downloaded package1, package2, and package3. You put the stuff
  in 
.../tetex-pl-0.1/package* 

  on your harddisk, you created the files 
.../tetex-pl-0.1/debian/* 
  to make the three packages combine to one debian package. Now, doing
dpkg-buildpackage
  in the .../tetex-pl-0.1 directory should create the debian source package
  (tetex-pl_0.1-1.orig.tar.gz) [see footnote 1], the diffs, 
  and the debian package (tetex-pl_0.1-1_i386.deb) etc. 

  Also, package1 (or whatever) contains files that have to be kept 
  together when distributed. But that's actualy what happens, as
  every Debian CD has got to have the source-code on it (to
  satisfy GPL (at least an old version of it)). So, I don't think
  distributing tetex-pl_0.1.orig.tar.gz would make the authors
  unhappy.

So, if the above is correct, then you've got the source package already.
As everything can be distributed with diffs (you didn't mention this,
but I hope this is the case), it seems to me the stuff _can_ in fackt
go in the main distribution. (if not, maybe you can ask the upstream
authors of the package*, they probably didn't intend you to be unable
to put their stuff in debian).


[footnote 1]: maybe your problem is the .diff file, as that doesn't get
created automatically. To do that, just (re-)untar package* in
  .../tetex-pl_0.1.orig/package*
and run dpkg-buildpackage. Now the diffs aren't really against the
upstream package, but against all upstream pacakges, but this should
be OK. (just put a note in /usr/doc/tetex-pl/copyright on how you 
created the orig package.)

 So now you have much more information and I wait for good advise for me.
 Naturally thanks all of you for making such great product as Debian

Apparently the main 

Re: linux 2.1.x -- poor multitasking?

1997-06-18 Thread Dale Martin
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyone else having this problem? Unfortunately I don't
 subscribe to linux-kernel because I expect the volume is very high.
 
 Hamish

I have read that SMP is enabled by default in the newer kernels, and
this gives very poor performance (in 2.1.42 specifically) on
uniprocessor machines.  So, comment out SMP=1 in the top level
Makefile and rebuild your kernel, if you don't need SMP.  Personally,
I'm staying away from the developmental kernels for now - I'm running
SMP and have had the best luck with 2.0.14, and reports for newer
kernels haven't looked that good for SMP.  (They're in the middle of
aggressive optimizations for SMP, so it's really no surprise!)

Later,
Dale
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Debian over NFS

1997-06-18 Thread John Goerzen
Hello,

I am wondering how to set up systems in this way:

 * A Debian server, with a large hard disk, with a fairly full install of
   Debian.
 * Multiple Debian client machines, with small hard disks (often 100 meg or
   less).  I'd like to mount, at minimum, /usr from the Debian server.
   /usr should be mounted over NFS in read-only mode.

My questions are:
 * How do I go about installing packages on the client?  I would assume
   that I install packages in the normal way on the server, but that
   wouldn't update the client's /etc directory.  However, I do not want to
   try to install on the client since it would fail if it tries to write
   anything in /usr.
 * How do I remove packages?  Again, if I remove from the server, there
   may still be files left in the client's /etc and /var directories.
 * What is the suggested method for going about this?


Thanks,
John Goerzen


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Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread Tim O'Brien
At 11:19 AM 6/18/97 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Tim,

as far as I know the data is still there (until the blocks that it
occupies are reused). Unfortunately deleting for ext2fs meaning deleting
the last reference or pointer to the file. Consequently the file simply

Is there a way to securely delete a file? Or do I need to study the e2fs
and develop a program to do it? I'm sure there's lots of people out there
who'd like the ability to know that when something's been deleted, it's
gone; no line, no waiting.. Right now. 

Ideas? 

Thanks, 
Tim


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[coteau@westriv.com: Network Problem]

1997-06-18 Thread David Engel
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Hi there,
We have successfully loaded Linux (Debian 1.3) and have the xdm working
properly. We are using fvwm95 as the window manager. The problem we are
having is, when we try to telnet or ping to our other unix and linux
machines, the error message came nerwork is unreachable. Other
machines are running (SGI)Irix 5.3 and Debian 1.1 .
We checked the cables and all the necessary files, as mention in the
manuals. These appears to be in order.
When we type the ps -ef command, no daemons appear to be running. If
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Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Tim O'Brien wrote:

 Is there a way to securely delete a file? Or do I need to study the e2fs
 and develop a program to do it? I'm sure there's lots of people out there
 who'd like the ability to know that when something's been deleted, it's
 gone; no line, no waiting.. Right now. 

Kinda like a Norton wipedisk?

 Ideas? 

Well, you could overwrite the file with gibberish _before_ deleting it.
I think that's what Norton does, several times if I remember correctly.
That's to comply with US federal regs, which seem a bit superstitious to
me! Actually, the giberrish itself is probably some specified bit pattern.

...RickM...



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Re: [coteau@westriv.com: Network Problem]

1997-06-18 Thread joost witteveen
 Hi there,
   We have successfully loaded Linux (Debian 1.3) and have the xdm working
 properly. We are using fvwm95 as the window manager. The problem we are
 having is, when we try to telnet or ping to our other unix and linux
 machines, the error message came nerwork is unreachable.

Have you setup your ip numbers, and routing etc correctly?
What's the output of:

route
ifconfig

(to configure this, edit /etc/init.d/network)

 We checked the cables and all the necessary files, as mention in the
 manuals. 

No, network unreachable doesn't mean the cables are wrong, it ususally
means wrong routes.

These appears to be in order.

   When we type the ps -ef command, no daemons appear to be running. If
 you have any suggestion for us. Please e-mail us, we'll be thankful.

ps -ef shouldn't output deamon info. You've probably BSD/SysV syntax,
whereas Debian ps uses SysV/BSD syntax.
Try ps -ax

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Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread stephen
 Date:  Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:01:23 -0500
 To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
 From:  Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:   Re: Linux FS Question

 Is there a way to securely delete a file? Or do I need to study the e2fs
 and develop a program to do it? I'm sure there's lots of people out there
 who'd like the ability to know that when something's been deleted, it's
 gone; no line, no waiting.. Right now. 
 
 Ideas? 
 

You could write a small c prog, that stats the file to get the size, 
then open the file, write 0's to the whole file, close it and unlink.
Most of this is standard library calls.

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Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Maybe a proper way of doing is to fill the file with zeroes from
/dev/zero before removing.

Regards,

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Re: Upgrade path to 1.3 - Chicken Egg problem

1997-06-18 Thread Joost Kooij


On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Edouard Katz wrote:

 Have decide recently to move to Debian (fully support its policy) so I went
 on the net and found the necessary stuff to install the base1_3 system.
 Installed very well without a problem on my old 486/33 no CD. The only way
 to install from a CD is to mount the CD on a server in our site and export
 it for NFS mounting.

NFS install is great, because you need only 1 floppy.
 
 The problem is that I have installed the base1_3 system and just got my CD
 that is Debian 1.2 Release  What do I do ?? I HATE the downloads over
 the net even if here at work I can do it freely !! Do I go backward to 1.2
 ?? Or - do I have a list of 1.3 files that are really required for
 operation, development environment that I will have to dld and the remaining
 stuff can be used from the 1.2 CD.

I'm not sure about this, but (off the top of my hat): AFAIK it should work
just fine. The 1.3 base packages (which is what you've got from
base1_3.tgz) are independent of any other packages. Maybe you'll have some
minor compatibility problems with optionals from 1.2, but I don't even
think that's very likely. If this does appear to be the case with a
package from 1.2, just update to the version in 1.3.  

Dselect could be a bit confusing to use, but you can trust it will not
downgrade the base packages to their 1.2 versions.

 I need to have a clean devlp. environment, need that the libs be
 uptodate, I believe that I can live with the X environment of the 1.2
 distrib.  That's the situation, a specific list of 1.3 files essential
 from /net /libs /dev

Hmmm, if you want to do some development, you'll want to have at least
libc5-dev from devel/. It must be the same version as libc5 from base/, so
you'll have to at least download that package. 

Also, notice that 1.3 has shadow support and the installation suggests it
as default. This might break some packages in 1.2 that do not support
shadow-passwords (xdm in xbase might be a candidate.) If you notice any
problems with logging in and permissions, try 'shadowconfig off' or get
packages from 1.3 (alas, xbase from 1.3.0 has a little configuration flaw
related to xdm, but it is quite easily fixable. It should be working by
default in 1.3.1's xbase.)

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: ack! x has been hosed

1997-06-18 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

 
 I got X going by using XF86Setup.  Initially, when done, it ran
 xvidtune.  Now, no such luck.  I ultimately ended up removing all of the
 xpackages and reinstalling, but still no.  It seems to be unhappy about
 a missing default font.
 
 here's the output from startx:
 
 
 
 XFree86 Version 3.2 / X Window System
 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6100)
 Release Date: Oct 26 1996
   If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
   than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
   problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
 Operating System: Linux [ELF] 
 Configured drivers:
   S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
   newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic
 (using VT number 7)
 
 XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
 (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
 (**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings)
 (**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200,
3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
 (**) S3: Graphics device ID: Diamond Stealth VRAM
 (**) S3: Monitor ID: My Monitor
 
 these figures seem outrageously high:
 
 (--) S3: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1800X1440 needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
 (--) S3: Mode 1800X1440 needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
 (**) FontPath set to 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
 (--) S3: card type: ISA
 (--) S3: Diamond Stealth BIOS found
 (--) S3: chipset:   911 
 (--) S3: chipset driver: s3_generic
 (--) S3: videoram:  1024k
 (**) S3: Ramdac type: normal
 (--) S3: Ramdac speed: 110
 
 ??? should i have defined a different ramdac?  what is one, anyway?
 
 (--) S3: clocks:  25.98  28.32  28.32   0.00  25.17  28.32  28.32  28.32
 (--) S3: clocks:  25.17  28.32  28.32  28.32  25.17  28.32  28.32  28.32
 (--) S3: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 110.000 MHz
 (**) S3: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  25.175, clock used =  25.170
 (--) S3: There is no defined dot-clock matching mode 800x600
 (--) S3: Removing mode 800x600 from list of valid modes.
 (--) S3: There is no defined dot-clock matching mode 1024x768
 (--) S3: Removing mode 1024x768 from list of valid modes.
 (--) S3: Using 6 bits per RGB value
 (--) S3: Virtual resolution set to 640x480
 (--) S3: Using a banksize of 64k, line width of 1024
 (--) S3: Using a single 64x64 area at (640,0) for expanding pixmaps
 (--) S3: Using 8 planes of 1024x543 at (0,481) aligned 8 as font cache
 PEX extension module not loaded
 XIE extension module not loaded
 failed to set default font path 
 '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/'
 Fatal server error:
 could not open default font 'fixed'
 
 but whre is this defined??
 
 
 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
 giving up.
 xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
 xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
 
I can help you with this last one. The base system doesn't create the
device tty0 with the resulting above error message. Cd to /dev and run:

./MAKEDEV tty0

And try again. Once the package have been installed, you can create a new
configuration file by deleting the old one in /etc/X11 and then running
xbase-configure. You will need xfntbase and xfnt75 installed for this to
work. If you have room I highly recommend installing all of the xfnt
packages, as many programs use fonts without declaring any dependence and
they will fail with font errors.

Hope this helps,

Dwarf
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Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread John Kuhn
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Date:  Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:01:23 -0500
  To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
  From:  Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:   Re: Linux FS Question
 
  Is there a way to securely delete a file? Or do I need to study the e2fs
  and develop a program to do it? I'm sure there's lots of people out there
  who'd like the ability to know that when something's been deleted, it's
  gone; no line, no waiting.. Right now. 
  
  Ideas? 
  
 
 You could write a small c prog, that stats the file to get the size, 
 then open the file, write 0's to the whole file, close it and unlink.
 Most of this is standard library calls.
 
 Stephen.

One example of a program to do this is can be found on sunsite.unc.edu in
/pub/Linux/utils/file/wipe.tgz

Also note that the chattr(1) program claims to set a file attribute that
will cause a file to be overwritten with zeros before it is deleted
from an ext2 file system.  This will not work because the required code
was removed from the Linux kernel in version 1.3.36 (Oct 95) and has not
been added back.  See the following comment from
/usr/src/linux/fs/ext2/truncate.c:

/*
 * Secure deletion currently doesn't work. It interacts very badly
 * with buffers shared with memory mappings, and for that reason
 * can't be done in the truncate() routines. It should instead be
 * done separately in release() before calling the truncate routines
 * that will release the actual file blocks.
 *
 *  Linus
 */

Anyone looking for a kernel hacking project?

John Kuhn
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Re: PDF Writer

1997-06-18 Thread Joost Kooij

On 18 Jun 1997, Eloy A. Paris wrote:

 Carlo U. Segre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 : Does anyone know of a program which writes PDF files under Linux?
 
 For free I don't know. May be Adobe sells a version for Linux. I downloaded
 from their Web site Acrobat Reader for Linux. It works great and installed
 with no problems under Debian.

It's also available as a debian package (acroread.)


Joost


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Re: Firewalls

1997-06-18 Thread JIM_BURT_at_nass-fx
 One wants a firewall to
 1. not require logging into the firewall computer itself (TIS requires 
 this)
 2. not require putting new (1 line changed then recompiled) ftp, 
 telnet, ... on the computers behind the firewall (SOCKS4 may require 
 this, I forget)
 
 The first causes the user a lot of work, the second causes the 
 administrator a lot of work.
 I understand any reasonable commercial firewall does both 1 and 2.
 TIS informed me personally that 1. is inherent in their software, but 
 they sell gauntlet without this problem.  Of course, neither you nor I 
 wants to pay for a firewall.
 
 I'm unsure what the new SOCKS (SOCKS5 I believe) does, but it has many 
 improvements.  I have also seen alpha level firewalls, one being 
 developed by, I believe, a group of banks in Switzerland.
 
 These firewall approaches provide more secure proxy servers.
 The kernel itself provides IP-filtering approaches if compiled with 
 firewall.  You tell the kernel which addresses to allow and which to 
 deny.  There was a nice command that does this (I forget its name).
 
 Hopefully enough people want a proxy firewall that the free community 
 will develop one that is not burdensome.
 


__ Reply Separator _
Subject: Firewalls
Author:  debian-user@lists.debian.org at INTERNET
Date:6/13/97 3:51 PM


Anyone running a debian-based firewall out there?
 
Does anyone have any experience with the TIS firewall toolkit package 
for Debian?  How about setting up firewalling in the kernel?
 
What are the pros and cons of each method for building a Linux firewall?
 
Thanks.
 
Dave
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Help with X start up

1997-06-18 Thread Stefanos Kiakas
Hello,

I'm trying to get X running (I downloaded the files in x11 from
the Debian 1.3 binaries.) I get the following error when I try to start
X using startx or xinit.

Fatal server error 
  no screens found

I used XF86Setup to configure the system. Do I have to set up
a special terminal or device to run X? If yes, how? This is my first 
installation with Linux, but I've installed X on FreeBSD and have been
using UNIX for a while. I think I must have missed some step in the 
installation process.

Thank you,
stef


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After Install: crc error

1997-06-18 Thread JIM_BURT_at_nass-fx
 I install Debian 1.3 on a now clean partition from 7 diskettes.
 The last install went smoothly and I created a boot floppy.
 Very early in the following boot, I get the messages
 
 loading linux ...
 uncompressing Linux ...  [there was nothing like Done]
 crc error
 --system halted
 
 To resolve the problem, I created a second set of install disks at 
 another site, but I got the same error.
 The computer I install on has an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card and I install 
 to /dev/sda9, a SCSI disk.  I also have an Atapi CD, which during 
 installation F4 showed repeated errors, though I did not install 
 from CD -- I supposed that the installation occasionally looked at 
 other devices without need.  The Debian installation I had used since 
 November, 1996, works well with this Atapi CD [the CD is probably 
 irrelevant to the installation].
 
 I thought I could scheme around the problem with chroot.
 With the rescue disk, I could not chroot /target, nor could I change 
 root with the chroot of the Debian installation and the rescue disk 
 running (I believe I got a segmentation fault, though using yard 
 rescue disks I got an unrecognized variable which was probably a 
 library problem).
 
 My solution: I will install with my November, 1996, Debian 1.2 disks.
 They worked fine for 15 other Debian installs I had done.
 Then I will convert over to Debian 1.3, following upgrade 
 instructions.
 
 
 
 
 Unrelated comment:
 Evidently, the Debian installation will not recognize a SCSI swap 
 partition on the first partition /dev/sda1.
 My previous Debian installation used this as a swap partition and the 
 installation showed it still so defined, but the step Initialize and 
 Activate the Swap Disk Partition detected no swap partition.
 I later added the swap partition /dev/sda5 (a logical rather than a 
 primary partition) which the Debian install did detect.
 
 
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Re: file system tools for dos

1997-06-18 Thread Paulo Ramos
On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, BG Lim wrote:

 I'm running a dos/linux system. I remember reading that there was a tool
 for accessing the ext2fs from dos. Can anyone tell me where to get it?
Enjoy it.
 
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attachment: ext2tool.zip


Re: PDF Writer

1997-06-18 Thread Jonas Bofjall
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Carlo U. Segre wrote:

 Does anyone know of a program which writes PDF files under Linux?

pdftex, is program that makes (La)TeX output PDF files instead
of the standard DVI. It's still in Beta though, but will probably
be included in the next teTeX-release (which Debian now uses).
Pictures are troublesome, except PNG's and JPEG's which are
easily included.
ghostscript, can convert postscript to PDF. However, it outputs
everyting as a bitmap, which makes it practically unusable.

Adobe Acrobat is not available for Linux, though it is available for
other unices. Maybe you can run it under some sort of binary
compatibility package?

I propose that you at least write a complaint letter to Adobe
for neglecting to port Acrobat to Linux (after all, the *have*
ported Acrobat Reader, so there should be no problems for them).

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Re: After Install: crc error -- rescue disk broken?

1997-06-18 Thread Dima
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... 
  loading linux ...
  uncompressing Linux ...  [there was nothing like Done]
  crc error
  --system halted

Same here.  It seems that current rescue disk is broken
(I tried 2 flopies, checked 'em with ndd etc.)

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Re: file system tools for dos

1997-06-18 Thread Philippe Troin

Please don't send binaries on the list ! Especially big ones !
Next time someone asks for XFree3.3, I'll send all the debs ! :-)

Thank you.
Phil.



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descriptions of the various mailing lists

1997-06-18 Thread Adrian Bridgett
Is there an up-to-date document describing what is in the various mailing
lists? 

I'm trying to subscribe to the various mailing lists before
leaving university where ATM I look at some via a mail-news gateway.

In particular, does anybody know about these:
  debian-board   things to do with the BOD (such as...)?
  debian-devel-announce  ?
  debian-doc ?
  debian-faq for the Debian FAQ?
  debian-testing testing group?
  debian-www Debian web site?
  debian-changes uploads into stable?
  debian-devel-changes   uploads into unstable/experimental (and stable?)

TIA

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Re: file system tools for dos

1997-06-18 Thread Paulo Ramos
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Philippe Troin wrote:

 
 Please don't send binaries on the list ! Especially big ones !
 Next time someone asks for XFree3.3, I'll send all the debs ! :-)
 
 Thank you.
 Phil.
 
 


Sorry about that folks. When I realize my mistake, the email already was
out of the email server. If I note that sooner I could delete the email.


Once again, sorry.



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IBM Aptiva

1997-06-18 Thread Denis Dimick

Has anyone gotten Debian 1.2.X to run on an Aptiva?

I was able to install it but hat to remove the Radio mouse and the Wave   
card..

The Wave card to get the NIC to work..

IRQ 10
I/O   300

And the Mouse had to be swapped out for a Serial mouse...


Any suggestions...

Thank's


Denis


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Re: Firewalls

1997-06-18 Thread Philippe Troin

On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:55:41 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  One wants a firewall to
  1. not require logging into the firewall computer itself (TIS requires 
  this)
  2. not require putting new (1 line changed then recompiled) ftp, 
  telnet, ... on the computers behind the firewall (SOCKS4 may require 
  this, I forget)
 Anyone running a debian-based firewall out there?

Yup.

 Does anyone have any experience with the TIS firewall toolkit package 
 for Debian?  How about setting up firewalling in the kernel?

I have an `industrial' firewall working out there, fully in the kernel (with 
ipfwadm). It masquerades all outbound connections (currently all, but you can 
choose which ports to forward and/or allow outbound connections), and refuses 
all outside connections except for mail, DNS and http. It also checks for 
spoofing (correct addresses on correct interfaces).
From the user, the only constraint is that he has to use passive ftp. 
Everything else is completely transparent.

Ipfwadm is hard to figure out at the first glance, but it's really powerful.

Phil.



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make boot floppy problem Deb1.3

1997-06-18 Thread simons

I'm experiencing problems installing Debian1.3 from scratch.
I followed the Debian1.3 installation guide and opted to
install with floppy disks.

Everything went swiftly untill I reached the point :
  Make a Boot floppy
After introducing an empty, formatted, write-enabled floppy
and hitting enter I get the following messages:

 Formatting the floppy...
   Verifying track 0, head 0 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
   end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
   Verifying track 0, head 1 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
   end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32
   Verifying track 0, head 0 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
   end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
   Verifying track 0, head 1 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
   end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32

After which the installation stops. (does not hang, goes back to menu)

I tried different floppies, ... , in vain.
Has it got anything to do with the way I configured the device drivers
(nothing installed explicitly) or might it be a hardware problem ?

I installed it together with an existing MS-DOS using fips to free space
for my Linux partitions. 

Any help for this Linux newbie highly appreciated !!  :)

Thanks a lot, --Erwin



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Re: make boot floppy problem Deb1.3

1997-06-18 Thread compwiz


On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm experiencing problems installing Debian1.3 from scratch.
 I followed the Debian1.3 installation guide and opted to
 install with floppy disks.
 
 Everything went swiftly untill I reached the point :
   Make a Boot floppy
 After introducing an empty, formatted, write-enabled floppy
 and hitting enter I get the following messages:
 
  Formatting the floppy...
Verifying track 0, head 0 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
Verifying track 0, head 1 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32
Verifying track 0, head 0 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
Verifying track 0, head 1 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32
 
 After which the installation stops. (does not hang, goes back to menu)
 
 I tried different floppies, ... , in vain.
 Has it got anything to do with the way I configured the device drivers
 (nothing installed explicitly) or might it be a hardware problem ?
 
 I installed it together with an existing MS-DOS using fips to free space
 for my Linux partitions. 
 
 Any help for this Linux newbie highly appreciated !!  :)
 
 Thanks a lot, --Erwin
 
The way I installed Debian was from MS-DOS, I used rawrite2.exe(available
on ftp.debian.org) to copy the different images that I downloaded earlier
t, to disk. Then I booted off of my disk and the insdtallation began.
 


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Re: Install Debian on Amiga 1200... HELP!!!

1997-06-18 Thread Paolo Nenzi
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Iñaki Martínez wrote:

 Kaixo!!!
 
  I need to intall Debian 1.3.x on Amiga 1200, so i need info..
 
  I have Debian installed on Pentium (i386 platform), but i have no idea about
 amiga.
 
  I have an Amiga 1200 with an IDE 240 HD, PCMCIA SCSI, IDE Cd-ROM...
 
  Can anybody help me
 
  Thanks.

Well, the major problem with Amiga is the lack of an MMU (Memory
Management Unit) in most models and, as far as i know,  Linux needs an MMU
to work. The Motorola 68020, which is the CPU of the basic A1200, does not
contain an MMU making installing Linux impossible. 

Bye,
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Re: where is mgetty-voice

1997-06-18 Thread Dan Hugo

I asked myself the same thing recently. I don't have the stuff with me
here at work, but if you check the readme/doc files for mgetty, you should
see the home page of the author/support person.

According to the web site, the voice package was in for some major
overhaul of some sort.  You can get sources for it there (for all of
mgetty, actually, it being in the mgetty/voice dir).  I got that far, and
am going to actually build it when I get 5 minutes.

regards
-dh


 
 Where is the mgetty-voice package? I have had a (quick) look in mgetty
 and mgetty-fax, but couldn't see it. I have looked at the entire site :-(
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: where is mgetty-voice

1997-06-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Adrian Bridgett writes:
 Where is the mgetty-voice package? I have had a (quick) look in mgetty
 and mgetty-fax, but couldn't see it. I have looked at the entire site :-(

Actually it's in master's incoming directory and should be distributed
soon.

Regards

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SMC Elite16 83690 Setup

1997-06-18 Thread Brad Porter
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Re: make boot floppy problem Deb1.3

1997-06-18 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm experiencing problems installing Debian1.3 from scratch.
 I followed the Debian1.3 installation guide and opted to
 install with floppy disks.
 
 Everything went swiftly untill I reached the point :
   Make a Boot floppy
 After introducing an empty, formatted, write-enabled floppy
 and hitting enter I get the following messages:
 
  Formatting the floppy...
Verifying track 0, head 0 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
Verifying track 0, head 1 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32
Verifying track 0, head 0 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
Verifying track 0, head 1 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32
 
 After which the installation stops. (does not hang, goes back to menu)
 
 I tried different floppies, ... , in vain.
 Has it got anything to do with the way I configured the device drivers
 (nothing installed explicitly) or might it be a hardware problem ?
 
 I installed it together with an existing MS-DOS using fips to free space
 for my Linux partitions. 
 
 Any help for this Linux newbie highly appreciated !!  :)
 
 Thanks a lot, --Erwin
 
There are several possibilities for your problem:

1. Is the floppy write protected?
2. It is possible that although you can read with the drive that
   it is broken for write.
3. Did you try cleaning the drive?

As you have a DOS partition to boot from, I can suggest an alternative to
a boot floppy that I think you will be much happier with in the long run.

You need the program loadlin.exe (available from the tools directory of a
Debian archive, and with the 1997-06-06 disk set) and the kernel image
named linux on the rescue disk. Copy them both to a subdirectory on the
DOS partition, boot the dos partition, and cd to that subdirectory. You
can now type:

loadlin linux root=/dev/hda2 rw

and your new system will boot up.

You can incorporate this functionality into the menu system available in
config.sys and execute the above command in the proper section of
autoexec.bat so that either the DOS and the Linux systems can be chosen at
boot time.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Paul Wade
Seems like the incoming spam has picked up, although I haven't been on
usenet for weeks. Makes me wonder if we have a spammer subscribed to the
lists just to collect email addresses. Anybody else with the same problem?

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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro
Seems like the incoming spam has picked up, although I haven't been on
usenet for weeks. Makes me wonder if we have a spammer subscribed to the
lists just to collect email addresses. Anybody else with the same problem?

I've been spammed like crazy after going on Usenet on an unprotected
account.  By that I mean, that I had my e-mail address in the From: and
Reply-to: fields.  To go around this you can put a blank space (leandro
@ifront.com for example).

At least in the mailing lists like this one there isn't that much of a worry
for spamming =)

Perhaps we could have that the mail program checks the domain from where the
mail is coming from, and if the domain is invalid it rejects the mail.

Leandro+
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Re: Can't deinstall package

1997-06-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

I just read about this. I think that the best thing to do at
 the moment is to remove mention of the package from
 /var/lib/dpkg/status. Look at the files mentioned in
 /var/lib/dpkg/kernel-source-1.99.7.list, and make sure that they are
 gone. Also remove /usr/src/linux; if you are going to use
 kernel-source packages it is a good idea to let /usr/src/linux be a
 symbolic link managed by the kernel-source packages (unpack your
 copies of unpstream sources in some other directory, I either use
 /tmp/linux or /usr/src/linux-2.0.30).

kernel source packages unpack into /usr/src/kernel-source-X.XX
 and change the symbolic link to point at the latest kernel source
 (allowing for multiple source trees). If you have multiple sources
 installed, it does the right thing if you dpkg --remove new source
 packages, making sure that .usr.src.linux always points to a valid
 directory (until you remove the last source tree, that is).

I'm sorry for the trouble you have experienced.

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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Paul Wade
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro wrote:

 Seems like the incoming spam has picked up, although I haven't been on
 usenet for weeks. Makes me wonder if we have a spammer subscribed to the
 lists just to collect email addresses. Anybody else with the same problem?
 
 I've been spammed like crazy after going on Usenet on an unprotected
 account.  By that I mean, that I had my e-mail address in the From: and
 Reply-to: fields.  To go around this you can put a blank space (leandro
 @ifront.com for example).

I don't like to do that. It makes it inconvenient for people to reply.
Besides, name mangling (paulwadeATgreenbushDOTcom) is a form of surrender
to the abusers. I use traceroute and then abuse.net to file complaints.

 Perhaps we could have that the mail program checks the domain from where the
 mail is coming from, and if the domain is invalid it rejects the mail.

That gets complicated because many people are at the mercy of a
technically challenged ISP. It would be great if everyone could get a
static IP with DNS.

Besides, anybody can subscribe to the list and never post a thing. Then
they just extract addresses from the messages that pass through.

A list server that requires a password somewhere in the message and
removes it before remailing would be nice.

Another spam generator is people using my domain names in false addresses
on usenet. I would need a program that scans 19000 newsgroups for domain
names in order to catch these people. They usually do this in the porno
groups and the email volume is high as a result.

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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Paul Wade wrote:
 
 Seems like the incoming spam has picked up, although I haven't been on
 usenet for weeks. Makes me wonder if we have a spammer subscribed to the
 lists just to collect email addresses. Anybody else with the same problem?

Talking of spam - Have you folks ever wondered how they never want to
sell anything that is worth buying?  All the spam that I have got seem
to belong to one of the following categories -

* Make money fast (rehash of the old pyramid scheme)
* Advertise your site in a gazillion search engine for pennies
* Scantily clad persons are waiting for me to visit their pages.
* 10,000 fresh email addresses are available for 19.95 (this should be
the spam equivalent of recursion ;-)

If people are going to spam me, why don't they ever sell books, s/w, h/w
for cheap?

Sudhakar
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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread John Foster

I've thought the same thing. I've _never_ posted to USENET from this
machine (maybe once in February!), so it has to be either someone I
know or this list that's let the spammers get my name!

Still, they'd only get the names of those who are brave enough to post
to the list, as I understand it.

John Foster


On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Paul Wade wrote:

 Seems like the incoming spam has picked up, although I haven't been on
 usenet for weeks. Makes me wonder if we have a spammer subscribed to the
 lists just to collect email addresses. Anybody else with the same problem?
 
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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Bruce Perens
It looks as if someone is trolling the Debian mailing lists and spamming
their subscribers. The spammer may be getting them via the news gateway.

Bruce
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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread John Foster
 That gets complicated because many people are at the mercy of a
 technically challenged ISP. It would be great if everyone could get a
 static IP with DNS.

OK, so I'm technically challenged! How do I put 1200 clients in 2 C
class networks with static IPs?

Jon Foster


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Re: Apache problems with 1.2-1.3 upgrade

1997-06-18 Thread Johnie Ingram

Ted == Ted Okada [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ted 1. You indicated the home directory to be /home/www-data Apache
Ted recommends /var/www ... I let Apache use /home/www-data ... In
Ted fact, I understand what happened.  I was using /var/www and
Ted instead of user www- data, I used user www with /var/www as the
Ted home directory.  What would you recommend given new packages?
Ted Should I symlink /var/www with /home/www-data?  In general, with
Ted regards to where Debian is going and for future upgrades of
Ted Apache, what should the strategy be for location to place web
Ted data?

The historic place for the Debian Apache document root is
/home/www-data/webspace.  The other webserver packages used different
conventions, and for 1.3 it was decided to standardize on /var/www as
a default.  But this is only a default -- the administrator can always
change this afterwards.  With apache in particular, only
/etc/apache/httpd.conf is hardwired; the locations of everything else
can be configured from commands in that.

The preinst script should have added /var/www instead of
/home/www-data -- its a Bug symptomatic of its antiquity.  :-)

Personally I still have my site in /home/www-data/webspace -- it makes
it easier to backup, and the parent /home/www-data stuff can be used
for other webserver-related stuff, like other virtual domains.

Ted 2. During the configuration of apache and apache-modules, there
Ted were configuration scripts... Do you know where these scripts are
Ted so I can run these scripts later to both configure apache as well
Ted as configure which apache modules to load?  I'm sorry for this
Ted newbie question...

All config scripts are stored in /var/lib/dpkg/info, named
apache.preinst, apache.postinst, etc.  The apache.postinst is what you
are thinking of, but really all it does is call the apacheconfig
program (which you can run at any time).

If you already have the user and group www-data set up, really you
don't need the scripts at all.  Just copy over the three config files
in /etc/apache -- httpd.conf, access.conf, and srm.conf -- and start
apache with /etc/init.d/apache start.
 
 
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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread M BAILEY
 
 OK, so I'm technically challenged! How do I put 1200 clients in 2 C
 class networks with static IPs?
 

Are these all unix stations or are some of these Win95/NT if the latter 
of the two you can buy a product from Bay Networks that lets you use IPX 
for 50 stations to one IP number it seems to work OK for alot of people..

Otherwise you have to get another 2 class C's.

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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Emilio Lopes
 PW == Paul Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

PW Seems like the incoming spam has picked up, although I haven't
PW been on usenet for weeks. Makes me wonder if we have a spammer
PW subscribed to the lists just to collect email addresses. Anybody
PW else with the same problem?

Here in Munich there is a debian-user to newsgroup
(muc.lists.debian.user) gateway. Maybe there are some other gateways
out there too.

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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Emilio Lopes
 PW == Paul Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

PW A list server that requires a password somewhere in the message
PW and removes it before remailing would be nice.

Maybe a just header. Each reader of this list had to setup it just
once in their mailreaders and forget it.

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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Paul Wade
On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, John Foster wrote:

  That gets complicated because many people are at the mercy of a
  technically challenged ISP. It would be great if everyone could get a
  static IP with DNS.
 
 OK, so I'm technically challenged! How do I put 1200 clients in 2 C
 class networks with static IPs?

That doesn't make you dumb, but it is a handicap because the national
providers don't want to give the numbers to the local ISP. I have
configured Linux boxes with multiport cards to assign the IP when the user
is logged in. The ISP that I did it for still had a problem with his
original lines (Cisco router and NT Tacacs authentication). Goes to show
that Linux systems are better than those ready-made boxes.

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The technically challenged WAS Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread John Foster
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, M BAILEY wrote:

  
  OK, so I'm technically challenged! How do I put 1200 clients in 2 C
  class networks with static IPs?
  
 
 Are these all unix stations or are some of these Win95/NT if the latter 
 of the two you can buy a product from Bay Networks that lets you use IPX 
 for 50 stations to one IP number it seems to work OK for alot of people..
 
 Otherwise you have to get another 2 class C's.

Ah so this is a new maening of technically challenged that I've
never met before!

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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Paul Wade
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:

 Talking of spam - Have you folks ever wondered how they never want to
 sell anything that is worth buying?  All the spam that I have got seem
 to belong to one of the following categories -
 
 * Make money fast (rehash of the old pyramid scheme)
 * Advertise your site in a gazillion search engine for pennies
 * Scantily clad persons are waiting for me to visit their pages.
 * 10,000 fresh email addresses are available for 19.95 (this should be
 the spam equivalent of recursion ;-)

Dear debian users,
I am looking for a way to make money fast while advertising my
website in all the search engines. Hopefully, scantily clad persons are
waiting to sell me thousands of email addresses.

Serious replies only. Please, no spam.

Seriously, I think they are fishing in the wrong place for idiots.



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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Paul Wade wrote:

 Seriously, I think they are fishing in the wrong place for idiots.
 
The snagg rate can be very low and still be very profitable when the
cost of doing business is being paid by others. Doesn't matter how small
that percentage is, given enough spam the return is sufficient to appear
profitable.

Later,

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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread joost witteveen
 On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Paul Wade wrote:
 
  Seriously, I think they are fishing in the wrong place for idiots.
  
 The snagg rate can be very low and still be very profitable when the
 cost of doing business is being paid by others. Doesn't matter how small
 that percentage is, given enough spam the return is sufficient to appear
 profitable.

So, how about making everybody who wants to subscribe to debian-user
sign some statement that they will never by anything from spammers, ever?


Seriously, though: Is there a way (with procmail or other) that
I can automatically forward all email with non-existant
Reply-To: addresses to /dev/null? That would probably halve the
amount of spam I get.

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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Paul Wade
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Paul Wade wrote:
 
  Seriously, I think they are fishing in the wrong place for idiots.
  
 The snagg rate can be very low and still be very profitable when the
 cost of doing business is being paid by others. Doesn't matter how small
 that percentage is, given enough spam the return is sufficient to appear
 profitable.

The easiest victims are those who partied hard the day before and aren't
thinking clearly. Hope you had a happy birthday, Dale!

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How to deliver mail over the modem

1997-06-18 Thread Johannes Martinez

I'll try this again, i have as yet been unable to post to this list.

I have smail delivering local mail, i have fetchmail getting mail
from my pop account.  How do i get outgoing mail to be delivered when i
dial up?  what is the best program to use?  Do i have to change anything
in pines config?

As well what works best to sort mail?  Is there also something
that will rip stuff off the subject line?  I subscribe to a list that has
[header:10293] attached to every message so that messages don't get
threaded.

Any info about the best newsfeed program for a slow link?

TIA, 
johannes martinez



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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro
Seriously, though: Is there a way (with procmail or other) that
I can automatically forward all email with non-existant
Reply-To: addresses to /dev/null? That would probably halve the
amount of spam I get.

You can do two things:

From Abuse.net, get all the known addresses of spammers and set them
in a filter.  Also, you can have your mail server do an automatic check of
the domain it's receiving mail from.  If the mail is from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
and
your mail server program detects that the domain name BOY.COM doesn't exist,
it can drop the mail. 
The unfortunate part about this is that the error would bounce to
either someone else (to bad not back to the spammer) and that people who use
fake domains that actually exists (I get tons from Compuserve and AOL) will
still come through.

My 10-user ISP works this way, and I get no spams there at all,
although I am not sure how the system works (that's how it was explained to
me).  I have just installed Linux myself and although I am slowly converting
myself to Linux from Windows 95, I have a lot to learn.  I'm used at having
my bed made. It crashes once in a while, but it's always made =)

Perhaps the best way to get rid of spammers is to become filthy
rich, so when we receive their mail, we can do a WHOIS on the website they
advertise, and then send our boys to take care of them...  just a dream.

True, Spamming is part of the freedom and the Internet is an
anarchy, with no control, but I still feel that if Spam should not stopped
because we'd be interfeering with their freedom, they are interfeering my
freedom (and my wallet).

Leandro+
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how to get apple2 deb package working?

1997-06-18 Thread Johannes Martinez

Has anybody got this emulator working?  All i get when i try and
boot something is a bunch of '@' signs filling up the screen and nothing
after that.  I'm running 1.3, kernel 2.0.29, and have a matrox if it's
pertinent.

TIA, 
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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Paul Wade
On 18 Jun 1997, Emilio Lopes wrote:

  PW == Paul Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 PW A list server that requires a password somewhere in the message
 PW and removes it before remailing would be nice.
 
 Maybe a just header. Each reader of this list had to setup it just
 once in their mailreaders and forget it.

That's easy for pine, but some of those who need help aren't running
Debian yet. They could be using Netscape, Eudora, or whatever with another
OS to do mail.

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Re: The technically challenged WAS Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Paul Wade
On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, John Foster wrote:

 Ah so this is a new maening of technically challenged that I've
 never met before!

When I originally used the term, I was referring to the ISP's who don't
have DNS info for their IP's at all. If they could at least make sure that
reverse lookup returns something like 'modem99.spamfactory.net' it would
help. They should also let their accounts know that logs are kept and all
posts and messages are traceable to the account. The people who hide
behind anonymous remailers and such can be dealt with if most ISP's block
all messages and traffic from those IP numbers. I do think that
'technically challenged' is appropriate for some ISP's here in Maine, USA.
They don't know how to setup a nameserver or block traffic.

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Re: ack! x has been hosed

1997-06-18 Thread Rick Hawkins

dwarf wrote,

  
  _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
  giving up.
  xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
  xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

 I can help you with this last one. The base system doesn't create the
 device tty0 with the resulting above error message. Cd to /dev and run:


   ./MAKEDEV tty0

this helped; it also got rid of the startup messages about serial ports
. . .


 And try again. Once the package have been installed, you can create a new
 configuration file by deleting the old one in /etc/X11 and then running
 xbase-configure. You will need xfntbase and xfnt75 installed for this to
 work. If you have room I highly recommend installing all of the xfnt
 packages, as many programs use fonts without declaring any dependence and
 they will fail with font errors.

I now have *absolutely* no idea why this is working.  What I found from
diddling is:

with XF86Setup, and the SVGA server, i could get into x--at 320x200
(240?).

with xf86config, i couldn't get a working setup sor the S3;  
generally the fixed font error.  switch /etc/X11/Xserver didn't help,
either; still errors from the SVGA setup with the server switched.

then i installed xserver-s3v --i have no idea what the relation between
this and s3 is --and got an unrecognized chip errror.  so i purged that,
and set Xserver back to svga.

voila.  X at 640x480, but the virtual screen isn't any larger.  for that
matter, i can't even tell how many bpp this is.  if it's 24, that would
explain things . . . 

so:

1) how do i tell it what mode i'm in?
2) how do i set the default to 8?
3) for that matter, will the s3 chips do 1280x1024 under the vga16
server?  All I need (care) about color for is the code hi-liting in
emacs.
4) how do i figure out settings for XF86config  for screen
settings/sizes?  I'd like 640x480,1024x728, and 800x600 on 8 bit,
640x480800x600 on 16, and 640x480 on 24 .  or 640x400 on 32 if it
forces me to 32.
5) do i need to sacrifice undergraduates to keep this working?  and if
so, to the screen, the software, or the hardware? :)





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Re: Debian over NFS

1997-06-18 Thread Rick Hawkins
 
  * A Debian server, with a large hard disk, with a fairly full install of
Debian.
  * Multiple Debian client machines, with small hard disks (often 100 meg or
less).  I'd like to mount, at minimum, /usr from the Debian server.
/usr should be mounted over NFS in read-only mode.

I'm working on a similar set up.  this is the first machine, and is
supposed to become the server--though i'd like to keep it and make
another one the server.  

We have mostly 4m 486's with 80 and occasionaly 200 mb drives.  We've
already figured to cannibalize them about 2:1, so we'll have 8m/80+
machines.

What I'm thinking right now is:
central server  16M, with 2 or 3 200 mb drives.  Things will install
onto this machine.  It will export /usr by nfs

the rest: 8/80 or so.  These will get a minimal installation.  the base
installation, X, probably lyx (these are for grad students); maybe a
couple of others commonly used.

These will mount the server as /usr2, and usr2/bin, etc., will appear in
the local paths.

Also, I'm figuring to put /home  on the server, so that files can be
accessed from any machine.

What I still need to figure out is how to have the password file
downloaded regularly from the master to the little ones, and hwo to have
password changes sent to it rather than the local machines.

rick


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Re: How to deliver mail over the modem

1997-06-18 Thread Paul Wade
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Johannes Martinez wrote:

 I'll try this again, i have as yet been unable to post to this list.
 
   I have smail delivering local mail, i have fetchmail getting mail
 from my pop account.  How do i get outgoing mail to be delivered when i
 dial up?  what is the best program to use?  Do i have to change anything
 in pines config?

runq (part of smail) might do it. If pine is giving the mail to smail,
then configure smail to forward it to the smtp server provided by your
dialup. smailconfig calls it a smarthost.

   As well what works best to sort mail?  Is there also something
 that will rip stuff off the subject line?  I subscribe to a list that has
 [header:10293] attached to every message so that messages don't get
 threaded.

I use procmail to put the mail directly into pine folders. A lot of people
use it, so it's easier to get help.

   Any info about the best newsfeed program for a slow link?

Someone else can answer this one.
 
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Re: file system tools for dos

1997-06-18 Thread David B. Teague
Paolo:

I already have the ext2tool, it LOOKS wonderful but it has some serious
problems with SCSI drives.  And It doesn't talk to more than the second
drive on a controller.

I have a VL bus 486 dx2/66 16 MB RAM 2840 SCSI controller with a 150 MB
Microp 1674 (Win 3.1, Dos6) , a Seagate ST3655N 540 MB (Win 95), and a
Fujitsu M1606S 1 Gig (Linux ext2) and a EZ 135 removable - various.

It won't talk to the ext2 drive. Can you help me?

--David

On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Paulo Ramos wrote:

 On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, BG Lim wrote:
 
  I'm running a dos/linux system. I remember reading that there was a tool
  for accessing the ext2fs from dos. Can anyone tell me where to get it?
 Enjoy it.
  
  BG
  
  
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Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On 18 Jun, Paul Wade wrote:
 Seems like the incoming spam has picked up, although I haven't been on
 usenet for weeks. Makes me wonder if we have a spammer subscribed to the
 lists just to collect email addresses. Anybody else with the same problem?
 
I didn't have time to install a anti-spam filter yet, so look at this
spam (some headers). Quite a few recipients look quite familiar. 3*
Joey, Heiko and [EMAIL PROTECTED] for example. The Message-Id Header
also looks strange to me. 

Well lets see what [EMAIL PROTECTED] thinks about this.

Ciao,
Martin

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Re: The technically challenged WAS Re: Are spammers subscibing to the lists?

1997-06-18 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
John Foster wrote:
 
 On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, M BAILEY wrote:
 
  
   OK, so I'm technically challenged! How do I put 1200 clients in 2 C
   class networks with static IPs?
  
 
  Are these all unix stations or are some of these Win95/NT if the latter
  of the two you can buy a product from Bay Networks that lets you use IPX
  for 50 stations to one IP number it seems to work OK for alot of people..
 
  Otherwise you have to get another 2 class C's.

I think what Bruce meant about everyone having static IPs was not

  Surely each ISP can get enough addresses so that each customer
   could be assigned a static IP thus providing a one-to-one mapping
   from IP address to person, then we could easily pin-down
   spammers from the sendmail tracks left in the email headers.

but rather,

  Gee, wouldn't it be nice if every person had one and only one IP
   so we'd have a one-to-one mapping from IP address to person,
   then we could easily pin-down spammers from the sendmail tracks
   in the headers.

-- 
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Re: make boot floppy problem Deb1.3

1997-06-18 Thread David B. Teague
Erwin:

I got this collection of errors trying to install Debian 1.1 until I
changed my controller (Adaptec AHA 1542 A)  which had firmware circa
1988. I suspect nobody else keeps superanuated hardware around as long
as I do, but it is worth thinking about if you hardware has any age on
it. 

You indicate that you tried various floppies. I got these errors until I
used fresh high quality floppies freshly formatted in a late (for me
that means post 1994) machine. 

I hope that others will be of further assistance.

Luck!

--DAvid

On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm experiencing problems installing Debian1.3 from scratch.
 I followed the Debian1.3 installation guide and opted to
 install with floppy disks.

 Everything went swiftly untill I reached the point :
   Make a Boot floppy
 After introducing an empty, formatted, write-enabled floppy
 and hitting enter I get the following messages:

  Formatting the floppy...
Verifying track 0, head 0 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
Verifying track 0, head 1 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32
Verifying track 0, head 0 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
Verifying track 0, head 1 end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 17
end-request:I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 32
 
 After which the installation stops. (does not hang, goes back to menu)
 
 I tried different floppies, ... , in vain.
 Has it got anything to do with the way I configured the device drivers
 (nothing installed explicitly) or might it be a hardware problem ?
 
 I installed it together with an existing MS-DOS using fips to free space
 for my Linux partitions. 
 
 Any help for this Linux newbie highly appreciated !!  :)
 
 Thanks a lot, --Erwin
 
 
 
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elm filters?

1997-06-18 Thread Zachary DeAquila

The package elm-me+ that I got doesn't include /usr/bin/filter.

Where'd it go?

 --Zachary


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