Re: tłumaczenia
Hej!!! czy ktoś wie gdzie mogę znaleźć teksty po polsku o debconfig, dselect i itd. i wszystko to co dotyczy debiana http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/dselect-beginner.pl.html Pozdrawiam Pawel Tecza - Kto wygra wyscig do Sejmu? http://wybory2001.interia.pl/
Nvidia Gforce2 mx, no me abre otro entorno gráfico
Alguien sabe por que se me queda toda la pantalla negra y deja de responder la máquina al querer abrir un segundo entorno gráfico usando los drivers sugeridos por la pagina nvidia.com en la seccion Section Device tengo Driver nvidia y estoy usando todo lo sugerido por ellos, esto no me pasaba antes, cuando usaba otra tarjeta de video. Saludos.
Re: Primeros pasos en programacion en C :consejos
El Debianita User wrote: Saludos Debianitas!!! Pues eso mismo que indica el subject estoy enpezando mis primeras practicas en C en la universidad y me dije por que no aprovechar a Debian para esto? Por supuesto los primeros ejercicios son sencillos ya que no tendremos programacion visual,pero mi gran problema se plantea al desconocer el entorno de programacion en C de Debian ,por lo tanto no se por donde comenzar,bueno se que por el principio,pero cual es este? :)) El asunto es que he visto que potato trae varios editores,cual de ellos servira para prgramar en C?,o cual sera el mejor?otra duda es que por ejemplo el kde trae un ide completo, trae Debian algo parecido?,o me vere obligado a usar un editor por separado y el compilador por el otro,etc? He instalado el paquete completo de programacion en C de mi potato pero realmente no lo comprendo,me ha instalado un tal autoproject (que es?),un Data Display debugger,pero de igual forma sigo perdido... Los saluda.. Juan ortiz -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Existen unos editores para C que a mi me parecieron que están muy bien para gente que está empezando, porque son parecidos a los que se usan generalmente en los cursos normales de C. Tienes uno en entorno consola: wpe. Y otro en modo X: xwpe. El que utilices es decisión tuya. Si has instalado como dices todo lo que Debian te permite para programación, entonces supongo que ya los tendrás instalados. Así, que sólo deberás teclear esos nombres tanto en consola normal como en una consola en modo X. Aunque yo comparto más la idea de utilizar compiladores como gcc, que te sugieren más acerca de todo el proceso que conlleva la compilación de un programa. Y no es que sea muy difícil. Sólo que lo que haces lo haces (valgan las redundancias) porque ya has leído sobre ello y estás informado de todo lo que ocurre. Pero si piensas que todavía no estás preparado, entonces los editores que te dije al principio creo que son los más adecuados. Valor, y suerte...
XML
Hola, estoy utilizando la plantilla de XML de la espiral, y tengo unas dudas, como puedo hacer cursiva y negrita a ciertas palabras? Gracias -- Ramón Pons Agora Systems, S.A. c/ Aravaca 12 28040 Madrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.agoratechnologies.com/
RE: Conectar a un puerto UDP (syslogd -r)
Por algun motivo una de las maquinas no funciona, es decir, yo le pongo que envie los mensajes del syslog a una maquina y dicho trafico no parece llegar. Por defecto syslogd no escucha a otras maquinas. Tiene que ser arrancado con la opcion -r existe una herramienta que conecte a un determinado puerto UDP? en /etc/services le puede cambiar el puerto de syslog. El default es syslog 514/udp
sobre los graficos
busco material sobre graficos en C o pascal si tienes me lo podrias enviar por favor. gracias _ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu página personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. ¡Es fácil, rápido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx
Compilacion de kernel 2.4.6
Hola a todos... Sigo con los mismos problemas para compilar los kernel 2.4.6 y 2.4.7, pero no doy con lo que puede ser. Os adjunto un fichero con la salida de la compilacion del kernel 2.4.6 para ver si a alguien se le ocurre que es lo que puede estar mal. Saludos y gracias. fallos.gz Description: Binary data
Re: XF 4.1 para potato!!
El Dom 12 Ago 2001 12:05, MaX in the FaX escribió: hola mundo! he encuentrado en peuple.debian.org los paquettes XFREE 4.1 para potato. Yo ja los tengo instalados y parese que todos va bien. debconf no funciona, entonces se tiene que usar xf86config para generar un /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 valido. ¿cual es la línea exacta para apt? Gracias.
Re: CONFIGURACION DE SONIDO EN POTATO.
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 12:51:00PM -0300, El Debianita User: Saludos Debianitas!! Pues eso cuales serian los pasos basicos a seguir para hacer funcionar una tarjeta de sonido en potato? Puedes probar con # modconf Ir a misc y ahi insertar el modulo que corresponde a tu tarjeta (por ejemplo es1371) Tengo una placa integrada a la placa madre y se que es pci el SuSE (mi anterior distribucion la habia tomado sin problemas),y se que potato lo hara,pero como? Tambien puedes instalar alsa
URGENCIA: filtrado de correo externo
Necesito ayuda: no sé cómo filtrar el correo que sale de mi servidor. Tengo varios usuarios infectados con el Sircam. Con el procmail les tengo filtrados los correos que llegan hacia sus buzones, pero lo que no sé es cómo filtrar los correos de los que estoy haciendo relay (enviados por mis usuarios desde fuera hacia otros usuarios fuera de mi servidor.) ¿No hay alguna forma de pasarlos por procmail, por ejemplo, los correos que llegan, antes de ser reenviados a su destino? ---8--- / Joaquin FerreroLinux User #109.802 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cartelera de Cine de Valladolid \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://Pucela.Net/Cultura/Cine ---8---
¿Tengo un problema de modulo para kernel 2.4?
Tengo una unidad de CDROM antigua (Sony cd31a) que no es ATAPI sino que tiene una tarjeta controladora específica. Usando el kernel 2.2.17 (el que viene por defecto en la distribución de debian por defecto) esta controladora se carga como módulo sin problemas y me funciona correctamente. Cuando he compilado manualmente el kernel 2.4.6 tengo puesto que me cargue como módulo el control de dicha unidad. Compilo el núcleo con la siguiente secuencia: make dep; make clean; make bzImage; make modules; make modules_install y no me ha dado problemas. Cuando reinicio el sistema, todo va correctamente. incluso si monto un CD no hay problemas puedo pasearme por los directorios y consultarlos. Pero al intentar acceder a cualquier archivo se queda bloqueada el terminal. Con la utilidad top he podido ver que el terminal queda como estado 'D' es decir, dormido sin posibilidad de interrupción Teniendo en cuenta que el módulo y la unidad me funcionan bien (al menos en 2.2.17) ¿qué me falta para que funcione correctamente en el nuevo kernel?
Re: Conectar a un puerto UDP (syslogd -r)
Hola, estoy haciendo unas pruebas con syslog, estoy poniendo el servicio
de syslog centralizado en una maquina.
Por algun motivo una de las maquinas no funciona, es decir, yo le pongo
que envie los mensajes del syslog a una maquina y dicho trafico no parece
llegar. Creo que puede ser cosa del cortafuegos, alguien puede decirme si
existe una herramienta que conecte a un determinado puerto UDP?
Podrías hacerla muy fácilmente... En Perl estableces la comunicación así:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use IO::Socket::INET;
my ($socket);
$socket = IO::Socket::INET-new(PeerAddr = '127.0.0.1', # conectarse a
localhost
PeerPort = 514, # al puerto de syslog
Proto = 'udp');
Con esto, $socket es tu filehandle y con él puedes mandar datos al
servidor:
$socket-print('Esto le va a llegar al servidor');
O recibir datos de él:
print $socket-getline();
Espero que te sirva. Saludos!
Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52)5623-1118
Desarrollo y Admon. de Sistemas en Red - FES Iztacala - UNAM
Departamento de Seguridad en Computo - DGSCA- UNAM
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Re: Netscape !!
On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Mauricy Maiorino wrote: Mario, por favor, só mais uma coisa, uso linux mas sou leigo em debian, como faço para direcionar o apt para non-free como você falou ?!? coloque as linhas: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free no seu /etc/apt/sources.list rode apt-get update e depois apt-get -u dselect-upgrade com isto ele vai, primeiro atualizar a base de dados dos pacotes disponíveis e depois atualizar a sua instalação com base no que você já tinha selecionado pelo dselect. Após esta etapa, você pode: 1. utilizar o dselect (fazendo um update tb - opção 2) e selecionar o netscape (communicator-smotif) e depois mandar Install 2. utilizar o apt para instalar o pacote diretamente: apt-get install communicator-smotif-477 communicator-base-477 communicator-spellchk-477 communicator-nethelp-477 netscape-java-477 acho que são estes os pacotes necessários; talvez você queira instalar o navigator-base-477 e o navigator-smotif-477 que permite você iniciar uma versão mais leve (só o navigator). ETA, []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
Re: Mp3 e Ogg tocando acelerado
On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Carlos Laviola wrote: Valeu Carlos, mas já consegui fazer ela funcionar... A minha placa é uma pcchips M810LMR... com chipset SIS (7013 eu acho)... Eu achei (na verdade procurei direito! :) no kernel padrão mesmo, e o driver da Trident funciona ok com ela (Driver Trident, Sis e + uns). O Som não é essa coisa toda, mas eu não tenho problema na saída como você está tendo... o modem eu comecei a espancar ele (é um PCTel), mas estou usando um Lucient pra quebrar o galho por enquanto. Em suma... funciona! :) Mas obrigado mesmo assim pela disposição! T+ Batata #On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 09:13:27AM -0300, Rogerio Neves Batata wrote: # On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Carlos Laviola wrote: # # #DivX/MPEG/AVI e outros formatos. O som sempre sai rápido. Deve ser o som # #on-board horrível da minha placa de som (AC97, do chipset da VIA). # # Buenas Carlos, # # Desculpe-me escrever em pvt, mas acho que não é de interesse do # restante da lista: # #Você esqueceu de tirar a lista do Cc... Então vou responder na lista #mesmo, já que a mensagem original já foi pra lá, OK? # # Que driver você usa pra essa placa AC97??? Comprei uma coisa # legal dessas e não tive nem tempo de olhar direito... sabendo o driver # já fica + fácil! # #Bom, como a minha 'placa de som' vem no chipset KT133 da VIA (integrado #a uma placa-mãe Soyo SY-K7VTA-B), eu escolhi o driver VIA 82C686 Audio #Codec. Talvez as placas de som Ensoniq, mesmo que usando o mesmo codec, #sejam de maior qualidade, mas não acredito... :/ Aqui, o som tem muitas #interferências e ruídos, além da impedância das saídas de áudio ser #horrorosa, ou seja, quando eu aumento o som no meu amplificador, #ouvem-se estalos estrondosos. # # Você tá usando o alsa? # #Não, só as coisas do kernel padrões. Veja no dmesg: # #Via 686a audio driver 1.1.14b #PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:07.5 #PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0b.0 #via82cxxx: Codec rate locked at 48Khz #ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7600 (SigmaTel STAC) #via82cxxx: board #1 at 0xDC00, IRQ 11 # #Qualquer coisa, me diz o nome do fabricante e modelo da sua placa de #som (seria melhor o ID PCI da placa, que pode ser obtido com 'lspci #-vv') que eu te ajudo a procurar o driver correto. # #-- # _ _ _| _ _ | _ . _ | _ http://laviola.org Debian-BR Project #(_(_|| |(_)_) |(_|\/|(_)|(_| uin#: 981913 (icq) debian-br.sf.net # #Linux: the choice of a GNU generation - Registered Linux User #103594 # # #-- #To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] #with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # /\ \ / Campanha da fita ASCII - contra mail html X ASCII ribbon campaign - against html mail / \
Xconsole + Frufrus :)
Olá povo, Eu vejo de vez em quando uns screenshots do pessoal rodando linux, e um negócio me chamou a atenção: o xconsole (ou coisa que o valha) rodando num terminal tipo o eterm, com transparencia, bitmap de funco e coisas do tipo. Agora que eu tô com um micro novo e os recursos não são mais tão escassos :) eu queria brincar com umas coisas dessas... Resumidamente... como eu faço pra colocar o xconsole num outro emulador de terminal? Outra coisa... instalei o Enlight esse fim de semana, mas achei ele meio pobre! Eu vi um amigo meu rodando um enlightenment a uns 2 anos atrás e o negócio era show... isso se resolve só com temas ou tem mais alguma coisa que eu possa usar pra maquinar ele? Eu queria ouvir também uns palpites do pessoal da lista que usa o Enlightenment... sobre como deixar ele mais bonitinho... mais funcional... mais mais! 8) E pro povo do KDE... calma... eu chego lá! Uma coisa de cada vez! :) Batata /\ \ / Campanha da fita ASCII - contra mail html X ASCII ribbon campaign - against html mail / \
Re: Tres maquina e internet.
On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Algot wrote: # Ô gente... # Ajuda aqui. # Tenho tres maquinas em rede: A, B e C. A maquina A é o servidor #que tem acesso a internet e fica o tempo todo conectado. Como que eu #faço para acessar a internet das outras duas ? # Brigado, Dê uma olhada no IP-Masquerade howto... é basicamente o que vocÊ precisa... depois, eu recomendo uma olhada no IPChains howto, pra deixar a coisa mais segura. HTH Batata /\ \ / Campanha da fita ASCII - contra mail html X ASCII ribbon campaign - against html mail / \
Re: Faculdade de Sistema de Informações (OFF Topic)
On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: #On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: # # aliás... eu vi uma coisa que me deixou muito espantado essa semana # passada... um outdoor de uma universidade conveniada à Microsoft e # à Oracle... onde o mundo vai? Você sai da faculdade certificado MS # hahaha... que droga... Pois é, e tem propaganda assim também nos cadernos de empregos de São Paulo. Deve ser a mesma, se bem que acho que isso há de se tornar cada vez mais comum. Rodrigo Morais Araujo wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Rogerio Neves Batata wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Rodrigo Morais Araujo wrote: #dentro dos nossos laboratorios tem mais de 1 milhão de reais em licença de #softwares doados pela *bonissima* Micrsoft... É isso ai... dah as #licenssas de *graça* para depois ganhar mais na frente. O que me Quanto à Microfoffy ganhar mais na frente, é mais perto do que você imagina... eles deixam você se familiarizar, se acostumar com os vindous por lá... e duma hora pra outra eles dizem... acabou a festa, agora tem que pagar. Quanto a isso acho que eles não fazem não! Vão deixar de formar profissionais que mechem com os produtos dela e que saem da facudade indo para empresas que terão que comprar as licenças cada veis mais abusivas O pior é que fazem sim, toda empresa -- não, toda organização -- acaba se tornando uma reprodução de seus fatores iniciais de sucesso, e costuma persistir nessas características mesmo quando elas se tornam inadequadas, ameaçando seu próprio futuro. Entram em um modo de suicídio corporativo. A Microsoft tem um agravante: o modo no qual ela opera é insustentável. Ela teria de se reorganizar totalmente para atuar sem monopólio nem segredos, que dirá num mundo de sistemas livres. E num mundo sem monopólios não haveria lugar para a Microsoft -- aliás, num mundo de liberdade não haveria lugar para um vendedor de programas tão grande. E ela não quer se reorganizar, muito menos desinchar. Aí tem de sugar mais seus clientes para se sustentar, e mais clientes migram para sistemas livres, e aí vai. A reação dela é ameaçar cada vez mais clientes nos quais antes ela tolerava a cópia não autorizada, e o DMCA. dos seus produtos? É uma pena que uma das facudades mais conceituadas do Brasil tenha tantas pessoas bitoladas a isso... tanta gente boa que só Qual seria? Não era bom começar a dar nome aos bois? Onde eu estudo olha o e-mail UFPE, que muitos de meus professores enchem a boca para dizer que não existe abaixo de Miami facudade de computação melhor, dizem eles que pode até existir igual mas não melhor! Acredito que lá seja muito bom, mas acho que falta muitas vezes um pouco de humildade! dinheiro! Não que eu não queira ganhar dinheiro, mas temos que pensar mais um pouco nos outros e ajudar o nosso pais a ganhar o conhecimento tecnologico e humano, sair dessa miseria que bate nossas portas todos Infelizmente quem pensamos assim somos uma ínfima minoria. Muitos falam assim, poucos (tentamos) agir. -- _ / \ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (11) 246 96 07 \ / http://geocities.com./lgdutra/ BRASIL +55 (43) 322 89 71 X http://tutoriald.sourceforge.net./ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Campanha fita ASCII, contra correio HTMLmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: .''`. ::: ::: : :' : ::: Rodrigo Morais Araujo (rma) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: `. `'` ::: UIN: 101720839 ::: `-:::
Re: Xconsole + Frufrus :)
Oi, Batata... Leitura recomendada: http://www.olinux.com.br/artigos/351/1.html http://www.olinux.com.br/artigos/357/1.html Um abraço, Michelle - Original Message - From: Rogerio Neves Batata [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lista Debian Portuguesa debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:08 AM Subject: Xconsole + Frufrus :) Olá povo, Eu vejo de vez em quando uns screenshots do pessoal rodando linux, e um negócio me chamou a atenção: o xconsole (ou coisa que o valha) rodando num terminal tipo o eterm, com transparencia, bitmap de funco e coisas do tipo. Agora que eu tô com um micro novo e os recursos não são mais tão escassos :) eu queria brincar com umas coisas dessas... Resumidamente... como eu faço pra colocar o xconsole num outro emulador de terminal? Outra coisa... instalei o Enlight esse fim de semana, mas achei ele meio pobre! Eu vi um amigo meu rodando um enlightenment a uns 2 anos atrás e o negócio era show... isso se resolve só com temas ou tem mais alguma coisa que eu possa usar pra maquinar ele? Eu queria ouvir também uns palpites do pessoal da lista que usa o Enlightenment... sobre como deixar ele mais bonitinho... mais funcional... mais mais! 8) E pro povo do KDE... calma... eu chego lá! Uma coisa de cada vez! :) Batata /\ \ / Campanha da fita ASCII - contra mail html X ASCII ribbon campaign - against html mail / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: man pages para download!
Em Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:19:52 -0300 (EST) Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Mas, pergunte ao kov ou alguém que possa esclarecer quanto as particularidades no Debian... Aliás, eu gostaria de saber... seria só fazer o download ou algum 'port'? o pacote manpages-pt e o manpages-pt-dev contêm as manapages... deixa ir que elas se atualizam quando o macan atualizar... usuários de potato podem pegar da unstable sem problema, em teoria []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov ** | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | **
Para pequenos ...
Alguem sabe se consigo rodar o Debian em um 286 ?? com 1mb RAM ?? Se souberem de alguma distro q funcione me avisem please ... Marcio
Re: [Way OT] SunOS question
Having just completed a port of our server product from Debian to Solaris (I wanted to try to keep the entire package environment as close as possible) I _strongly_ suggest you try to find a port of screen for your breed of SunOS. Trying to port sanely from GNU/Linux to Solaris is very trying. In particular, any cool optimisations will bite you hard when Sun Workshop gets a hold of them (. My own opinion is the Solaris needs to be put down or retired. Diabolical OS, diabolical environment. And the hardware isnt _that_ good - not compared to the price anyway: we used a e3500 (4 way) with list price of AUD$260,000 and it performs no better than a Dual 733 Coppermine PIII with Mylex Raid card running Debian. which cost us about AUD$7500. Disk IO on the e3500 is a little faster 'cos it uses Fiber Channel instead of UW160. But not quarter of a million dollars worth!! David Z Maze wrote: Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HS There's a Sun Sparcstation at work that I would like to use HS virtual terminals on, if it's even possible. So, is it ?? HS HS 'uname -a' tells me this: HS HS SunOS fred 4.1.3 1 sun4m The Linux virtual terminal support is provided by the Linux kernel directly, so you're not going to get something identical on a machine running Solaris (or SunOS 4). It also has the annoying misfeature that it only works on the physical console of the machine. :-) One common way around this is to use an excellent program called screen. You can get source from GNU, or [[ObDebian]] 'apt-get source screen' on a Debian box and somehow export the source to your Sun machine. Screen lets you run multiple programs under a single terminal window in pretty much any environment, and even lets you detach a session, log out, and come back to it later. It's a godsend for working with, say, a VT320. (And in fact right now, since I've just moved and we have no real connectivity, I'm sending mail from Gnus in XEmacs running in a screen on a Solaris 8 machine, with the connection being a 14.4kbps modem plugged directly into a VT320. Having found the relevant frobs, life is good, or would be for 10-year-old technology. :-) -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modifying a Windows 95/98 FAAT 32 partition
On Aug 12 2001, Eduard Bloch wrote: Rog?rio Brito wrote on Sun Aug 12, 2001 um 04:06:17PM: Where can I get the source to the boot-floppies (so that I The source of BFs is in Debian's FTP pool. The patch is somewhere in my directory, the kernel configuration file too, and the URL the ext3 patch is in the Changelog of the kernel package. Thanks. I was just interested in the BFs sources, since I want to customize the other things anyway. Thank you very much. could make one customized set myself)? I'd also love to learn a bit more about them. Please do. There is some help on internationalisation needed. I guess that it is obvious from my (poor) English, my name and my address that I'm Brazilian. :-) And I can think about the i18n if I can understand the templates needed (I plan on doing a little bit of work to get my girlfriend to use Linux -- and I think that I obviously can contribute back some Portuguese translations to Debian). Oh, now I just need some spare time. :-)) You homepage didn't mention the location of the sources (it contained only your patch). This is Debian country, I didn't expect anyone to have problems founding them. Well, I guess that the problem was that I am stupid and that I wasn't looking for the hard way instead of the obvious one you mentioned (I was looking for a CVS tree somewhere, but doing my searches among a lot of other work which distracted me and made me never bother to look at it again). Thank you very much, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogério Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Small Debian Install?
On Aug 12 2001, ktb wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 02:02:09PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking into buying a 386 laptop with 4 mb RAM, and a 160mb HDD. Will I be able to install Debian on this? How about X windows? http://7thguard.net/files/DebianHOWTO.txt http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/4mb-Laptops.html One of the biggest problems that I have noticed (I haven't read the above documents, so I may be restating what they're saying) is that glibc is quite large for a computer with only 4MB of RAM. There are some projects out there on the net that intend to make a smaller version of the Unix's standard libc library, namely dietlibc and uClibc. I haven't used any of these, but if I had to cope with such restrictions, I'd definitely use an old kernel (since they are lighter) stripped of any unused module, a busybox to use as commands and one of these lighter libraries, disabling unnecessary services also. Using X is not very good in such cases. []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogério Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: LT WinModem and kernel headers
On Aug 12 2001, Guy Geens wrote: [1] /usr/src has even been deprecated AFAIK. What is the best current practice nowadays? Since I read a post by Linus on the lkml some time ago, I've been compiling my kernels under my own user tree, and not even bothering using /usr/src anyway. []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogério Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: 2.4.7 kernel boot hangs with cramfs: wrong magic
On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 02:30:53PM -0400, Jerome Acks Jr wrote: oop! -- I corrected a few incorrect details in my prior message regarding the results of 2.4.7 boot partitions check and contents of my lilo.conf file. I have been trying unsuccessfully to get a 2.4.7 kernel to boot. My PC has a AMD-K6-II and runs woody. My most recent attempt used the kernel image is from kernel-image-2.4.7-k6_2.4.7-1.i386.deb. The boot sequence runs until the hard disk partition check and then hangs. The final part of the boot post is: Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [EZD] [remap 0-1] [700/255/63] p1 p2 p5 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0: [PTBL] [2491/255/63] p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7 cramfs: wrong magic VFS: Mounted root (est2 filesystem) readonly change-root: old root has d_count=2 Freeing unused kernel memory: 184k freed I had this same problem when I tried 2.4.7 and an initrd; I decided I really wanted 2.4.7 more than I wanted an initrd so I compiled IDE support into the kernel proper. The boot hangs at this point. Sometimes is hangs at the line cramfs: wrong magic Recompile the kernel with IDE support non-modular and see what happens ... When I boot with my 2.2.19 kernel, partition check reports: hda: [EZD] [remap 0-1] [700/255/63] hda1 hda2 hda5 hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 hdb5 hdb6 hdb7 Is it normal for a 2.4.x kernels to report partitions as p1, p2, etc. vice hda1, hda2, hdb1, etc? Uh, yeah ... it's devfs at work. You need to install devfsd if you plan to use a 2.4.x kernel and devfs What does cramfs: wrong magic mean, and does anyone have suggestions on how to fix this problem? I believe it means it can't make sense of your initrd but I'll let Herbert make the call. Cheers, -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpJpJuzitedO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: remote administration methods
On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 06:54:33PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 05:24:46PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: also sprach Karsten M. Self (on Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:27:54PM -0700): Have you looked at bitkeeper (http://www.bitkeeper.com/)? This is an almost-free software versioning system which addresses several weaknesses of CVS and might suit your needs. Larry McVoy is also pretty keen on distributed processing issues. bitkeeper looks like a good idea, but it's commercial and i do not have monetary means available. aside, i could not find some sort of evaluation, so i could not establish, whether bitkeeper would solve my problems. BitKeeper has a mixed model. It's commercial if you use it for proprietary tasks (and don't want logging). It's free (beer) if you use it for free software and/or allow its logging. Either way, source is available. rant I don't understand why semi-commercial software with weird licensing can be mentioned on debian lists without provoking vitriol from purists, but mention of any software written by djb does? /rant No flame intended Karsten ... just had to get that off my chest :) Cheers, -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgptJTZJgOiZR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [ Re: LT WinModem and kernel headers]
On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 02:04:24PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: [1] /usr/src has even been deprecated AFAIK. Please post anything you know about this. The Filesystem Hierarechy Standard doesn't mention this. He simply means that you aren't [0] supposed to compile kernels there. /usr/src is under control of the packaging system, so if it were to blow away your source tree you shouldn't be surprised. OTOH dpkg has never yet messed with a /usr/src/kernel-source-N directory, so I don't think this is a major issue ... -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton [0] According to the authorities ... I've read it but I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment. pgpnqWRgncwxg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HELP, caught in a login loop
On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 09:42:37PM -0400, dman wrote: | Apologies for the mis-information. Anyone know why runlevels are set up like | this in Debian? So that you, the admin, can organize the runlevels in whatever way you feel like without any (initial) interference from the installer. You could remove the word initial entirely as dpkg will never [0] mess with runlevel changes. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton [0] as long as at least one link still exists. This is why leaving the K links to xdm works (see the other thread(s)). If there are no links at all, dpkg can only assume that the package has never been configured. pgpYudbOH9eKE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hard drive problems... misconfiguration?
On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 08:25:14PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: but unlike GNU/Linux support, Fujitsu Support doesn't function on Sundays. It's wait and see... Amazing, isn't it? So much for superior commercial support. (Yeah yeah, I know it's not fair to compare hardware support to OS support, but anyone who says Linux is unsupported has never used a list like this). -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpWV81u7LyCD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel 2.4.x in potato?
On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 07:11:25PM -0400, Bob Koss wrote: took me two tries (forgot to include vfat the first time), but the apt-get and make-kpkg utilities sure make this a lot easier than it used to be in RedHat! Sir, your language!!! :-) -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpLbvrJlGtcf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LT WinModem and kernel headers
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 01:26:05AM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote: On Aug 12 2001, Guy Geens wrote: [1] /usr/src has even been deprecated AFAIK. What is the best current practice nowadays? Since I read a post by Linus on the lkml some time ago, I've been compiling my kernels under my own user tree, and not even bothering using /usr/src anyway. I use /usr/local/src, but that's mostly because I can, and I'd rather clutter /usr/local/src than my home dir. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpkv4t1j6tzr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LT WinModem and kernel headers
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Rogério Brito wrote: RB On Aug 12 2001, Guy Geens wrote: RB [1] /usr/src has even been deprecated AFAIK. RB RB What is the best current practice nowadays? RB RB Since I read a post by Linus on the lkml some time ago, I've RB been compiling my kernels under my own user tree, and not even RB bothering using /usr/src anyway. well i guess i'm old fashion, because i still preffer it over anything else .. it is just a habit i guess ;) Dingo. ).|.( '.'___'.' ' '(~)' ' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-ooO-=(_)=-Ooo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Petr [Dingo] Dvorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coder - Purple Dragon MUD pdragon.org port -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ 369D93 ]=-=- Debian version 2.2.19, up 29 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: xfree86_4.1.0-2 broken dga
Sean Morgan wrote: All my DGA using apps have broken as of late giving: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86dga.so: undefined symbol: atexit A 'dpkg -S libXxf86dga.so' gives no results, but I assume it used to be in xlibs. So were the DGA libs moved or something, or am I just SOL til the maintainer fixes it? Do you even have a libXxf86dga.so file? I am running sid and I don't have that anymore though I created it from libXxf86dga.a ld --whole-archive -shared -o libXxf86dga.so libXxf86dga.a I have no idea what, if any, problems this may cause with future upgrades and such so use it at your own risk. All I know is my programs will run again. On a completely unrelated topic, would it be considered innapropriate for me to use the list address as the return email for messages I post here? I have no need to receive direct replies and would rather not be spreading my real email for spammers to collect (the return on this message is a little fudged). Is there an etiquette document somewhere? Thanks
Re: xfree86_4.1.0-2 broken dga
On 2001.08.13 01:06 Tim Moss wrote: Do you even have a libXxf86dga.so file? I am running sid and I don't have that anymore though I created it from libXxf86dga.a ld --whole-archive -shared -o libXxf86dga.so libXxf86dga.a I have no idea what, if any, problems this may cause with future upgrades and such so use it at your own risk. All I know is my programs will run again. Heh, so that's where those come from...though why you wouldn't have one is beyond me, I think it would be generated by the install script. It turns out my problem was caused by the libc-10 packages, so a downgrade fixed everything.
xfree86 and default font 'fixed'
I am using a stock potato without X, I am compiling XFree86 4.1 from source, then installing it to /usr/X11, I have added Antialiasing and TTF support following instructions on http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/render/aafont.txt I have installed it all, and setup an XFree86 configuration file. And also started xfs. Now I get this: could not open default font 'fixed' as the error. I don't know what to do with this now. Anything I have found on google hasn't been of much help to me. There seems to be many causes to this none of which I found info on. Does anyone else have this problem? If so how did you solve it? Here is my XF86Config file (relevent parts only to prevent from being too large): Section Module # This loads the DBE extension module. Loaddbe # Double buffer extension # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. SubSection extmod Optionomit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension EndSubSection # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Loadtype1 Loadfreetype Loadspeedo # This loads the GLX module #Load glx EndSection # ** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ** Section Files # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like .txt or .db). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/rgb # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/local/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath unix/:7100 # The module search path. The default path is shown here. ModulePath /usr/X11/lib/modules EndSection
Re: Mozilla: configure menu fonts?
http://www.xulplanet.com
Karsten M. Self wrote:
on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 08:28:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Karsten M. Self wrote:
File is ~/.mozilla/user/odd string/chrome/userChrome.cssContent that works for now:window{ font-family: Helvetica !important; font-size: 8pt !important; */ font-style: regular !important; font-weight: normal !important;}menubar, menubutton, menulist, menu, menuitem { font-family: Helvetica !important; font-style: regular !important; font-weight: normal !important; font-size: 8pt !important; }
I see you've solved your problem. I can add to the solution a bit, though.Here's my userChrome.css: button, input, menu, menubar, menubutton, menuitem, menulist, window { font-family: verdana !important; font-size: 3mm !important; }Notice I've added a few more object types to the list. This makes justabout all of Mozilla's UI use the same font.
Thanks, got it.
Is there any real documentation on this anywhere?
AFAICT, no, which was one of the things I was starting to cursecreatively whilst looking for a solution last night. There's a document, the XPTookkit (http://www.mozilla.org/xpfe/xptoolkit/), with aXUL section, but best as I can tell, it's last updated 30 Jun 1999(that's three years ago, if you're slow on math).
I browsed around the mozilla.org site for a while but couldn't findany complete definition of what you can put into the userChrome.cssfile. I only found examples, which were nice as far as they went butwere far from comprehensive. What are _all_ the object types, _all_the attribute names, _all_ the units of measurement that are accepted?
Since XUL is XML, somewhere there's an XML DTD specification for XULthat should specify all this crap. Fuck if I could tell you where thatis. Some of the places I've stopped by in my wanderings.There are a number of links from the main Mozilla.org page, I'vefollowed several in depth with no luck in finding an attribute listincluding, say, two target elements: 'font-size' and 'menubar'.First, there's a plug for _Essential XUL Programming_ by Bullard, Smith,and Daconta. The table of contents lists "Appendix A: XUL Programmer'sReference", but I don't see anything that looks like an entityreference.http://www.wiley.com/Corporate/Website/Objects/Products/0,9049,89266,00.htmlhttp://www.wiley.com/Corporate/Website/Objects/Products/0,9049,1775290,00.htmlGoing to the Mozilla FAQ leads on to "The XPToolkit"http://www.mozilla.org/xpfe/xptoolkit/Again, no entity reference.Links point to "Introduction to XUL"http://www.mozilla.org/xpfe/xptoolkit/xulintro.htmlhttp://www.mozilla.org/xpfe/index.htmlHmmm...stabbing around more-or-less at random, I've stumbled across theCSS2 Specification:http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/...which includes certain elements such as "font-face" and "font-size".Interesti
ngly, the first example for font-size is specified as points'pt':http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/fonts.html#font-size-propsSo, CSS2 (plus or minus a version) seems to supply the entity attributesfor XUL. Next question is: where do we find out what the fuck we canconfigure? - "A XUL Bestiary" isn't:http://www.mozilla.org/docs/xul/xulnotes/xulnote_beasts.html - The "XUL Widget Cheatsheet" comes close, though it's incomplete (nomention of windows, font-size:http://www.mozilla.org/xpfe/xptoolkit/ - The "XUL Programmer's Reference" raises the meaning of "contentfree" to new heights:http://www.mozilla.org/xpfe/xulrefAs I've copied a few Moz folk on this, I'd be very interested to know: - Where the DTD and all attributes are defined. - Why this isn't in the documentation. - If there's no comprehensive attributes listing, an explanation ofwhy not. This should be prominantly featured early in the availableonline XUL docs.
Until I saw your example, I didn't even know that you could specifyfont sizes in points!
I wung[1] that one, then searched Google and local configs under/usr/lib/mozilla* for various combinations of 'font-size' to see whatthe points argument was.
The only examples I had seen used "mm" as the unit of measurement.
On the one hand, reasonable if your display measures true, OTOH, I'mused to specifying *everything* in points, and have no idea what thecorresponding mm measurement is.I've cc:'d [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Dave Hyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]on this post.All please note reply-to set to debian-user.Notes:1. Past tense of "wing".
Re: getting woody
David == David Dayan-Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Hi all, I am trying to get woody but could not find out how David to do that. Are there some ISOs available ? I don't think Debian releases testing or unstable ISO's your best bet is probably getting a potatoe ISO and apt-get dist-upgrade'ing to woody. or last time I looked Linux System Labs Australia (http://www.lsl.com.au) sold a unstable snap shot ISO, you'd have to ask them to find out how up to date it is. -- Joel
Package Request
To whom could I make a request for a new Debian package?
Re: Package Request
File a bug with [EMAIL PROTECTED] pseudo-package wnpp. On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Brad Rhodes wrote: To whom could I make a request for a new Debian package? -- There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with suitable application of High Explosives. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Help: DVDs players and Linux
Dear All, Last week, I bought myself a new DVD drive, an Asus E608, which is a RPC1 drive. Being a new technology for me, I only have two DVDs to play with it (G3: Live in Concert and Elvis Presley's comeback special). Of course, the first thing I did was to just compile a new 2.4.7 (at the time) kernel with the new ioctl interface for DVDs for a sid install that I have. I started searching the Debian repositories for DVD players and I've found two players that seemed to do the job (reading their descriptions on their respective sites): xine and videolan (vlc). I installed everything and started watching the DVDs, but then I got two little surprises: 1 - the DVD playback didn't include subtitles (I later tested this on another movie that I rented at a local Blockbuster), which are very important for me, since English is not my first language and I can't understand it very well (I can not even write correctly in English, much less listen to people speaking it). 2 - the DVD playback shows a lot of artifacts, especially during fast-moving scenes, with the two players showing the same problems. The effect that I saw was that output of the DVD players had an interlaced display: I saw the even lines not aligned with the odd lines, which was a bit distracting. Unfortunately, using PowerDVD 2.x under Windows/98, everything run fine and the problems above didn't appear. So, I guess that the hardware is working fine. Reading through some sites, I discovered that Linux players have problems displaying subtitles in overlay mode (which I don't even know what means) and tried to run vlc without it, by invoking vlc (0.2.82) with the vlc_overlay option disabled (set to 0), but as soon as I opened the DVD (using the gnome plugin), it crashed with a segmentation fault. :-( Is this a known problem? Also, I have a question regarding zones: will I be able to watch DVDs without ever worrying about zones? Is it handled transparently by the drive (which ignores the zones -- or so I've been told)? Do xine or vlc take care of that or should I use a program to set the current region of the drive? I'm a little bit lost here with regards of DVDs and I'd appreciate any help. Thank you very much in advance, Roger... P.S.: I'm using the latest versions of all programs from today's update of sid. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogério Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Mozilla: configure menu fonts?
on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 11:09:54PM -0700, Aaron Leventhal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 08:28:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is there any real documentation on this anywhere? AFAICT, no, which was one of the things I was starting to curse creatively whilst looking for a solution last night. http://www.xulplanet.com (Use of text and postfix quoting are encouraged.) Note in particular: Mozilla XUL and Script Reference http://www.xulplanet.com/tutorials/xultu/elemref/mxdref.html However, getting back to the menubar page: http://www.xulplanet.com/tutorials/xultu/elemref/ref_menubar.html ...we don't find the attributed font-family, font-style, font-weight, or font-size specified. Nor are they specified on the inherited attributes page: http://www.xulplanet.com/tutorials/xultu/elemref/ref_XULElement.html#attrblk Using the site's search engine to locate references to 'font-face' are unsuccessful. So the question remains: how is the developer, or even casual user, supposed to know or research attributes of objects within XUL? -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA!http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hirehttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgpvFc4fvOLvd.pgp Description: PGP signature
gnome is gone!
i recently tried (and so far failed) to install printtool... and in the process i seemed to have wiped out gnome... here's what happened: i'm running 2.2r3 so i had to upgrade a lot of libraries, ect. to get to the point where i had all the nessicary files to dpkg printtool... (one file that printtool required would require 2 or 3 more files of its own) and somewhere between installing some new c libraries and lpr-ppd i seem to have removed some important gnome packages. I tried to dselect the packages to reinstall but it keeps getting hung up by the fact that i don't have this library that it needs: 'libdb.so.3' i've searched the package directory for it as well as 'libdb.so' and gotten nothing... libdb returns like 700 results and i can't browse all of those for something resembling that library. so here's what i need to know: 1. where do i get that library 2. since i've got lines in .xinitrc to start gmc and the toolbar and neither one of them start, what's the most likely file that would've gotten uninstalled by dselect while installing some c libraries and printtool (and its reqired files)? well, i guess that last one isn't essential, but i'm really starting to get bothered by this printer that linuxdoc.org says will work 'perfectly' but won't even do an 'lptest /dev/usb/lp0' ... did that letter i sent a/b it earlier make it through my slow connection? anyway, i'm almost as confused as i was when i first started installing this crazy OS, so any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
gnome is gone!
i recently tried (and so far failed) to install printtool... and in the process i seemed to have wiped out gnome... here's what happened: i'm running 2.2r3 so i had to upgrade a lot of libraries, ect. to get to the point where i had all the nessicary files to dpkg printtool... (one file that printtool required would require 2 or 3 more files of its own) and somewhere between installing some new c libraries and lpr-ppd i seem to have removed some important gnome packages. I tried to dselect the packages to reinstall but it keeps getting hung up by the fact that i don't have this library that it needs: 'libdb.so.3' i've searched the package directory for it as well as 'libdb.so' and gotten nothing... libdb returns like 700 results and i can't browse all of those for something resembling that library. so here's what i need to know: 1. where do i get that library 2. since i've got lines in .xinitrc to start gmc and the toolbar and neither one of them start, what's the most likely file that would've gotten uninstalled by dselect while installing some c libraries and printtool (and its reqired files)? well, i guess that last one isn't essential, but i'm really starting to get bothered by this printer that linuxprinting.org says will work 'perfectly' but won't even do an 'lptest /dev/usb/lp0' ... did that e-mail i sent a/b it earlier make it through my slow connection, by the way? b/c i didn't get any responses anyway, i'm almost as confused as i was when i first started installing this crazy OS, so any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Re: Reading a mac disk
High, On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, William T Wilson wrote: I want to take a Macintosh IDE hard drive (System 8.6), connect it to my x86 Linux system and read the data off of it. (In a pinch, I could use a Windows system too, but that looks harder). Do I have a prayer? :} Yes ;-). You have to compile a kernel which supports the mac partition table (CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION=y) and support for the hfs filesystem (CONFIG_HFS_FS=m). Then you should be able to mount the drive with: mount -t hfs /dev/sdb3 /mnt I've used mtools to read Mac floppies, but as far as I know these are no use for reading hard drive data. If you are running Linux on a Mac, there is a package called 'htools'. Perhaps this also works on PC reading Mac disks. Greetz, Sebastiaan
Re: gnome is gone!
The library you need is libdb3. After you get libdb3 installed, I'd say your next target is perl. potato-woody hangs up nowadays on the libdb3 transition, making perl 5.6 a PITA, but everything that uses perl is moved to perl 5.6. I'm thinking you'll be able to go along nicely with libdb3. On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i recently tried (and so far failed) to install printtool... and in the process i seemed to have wiped out gnome... here's what happened: i'm running 2.2r3 so i had to upgrade a lot of libraries, ect. to get to the point where i had all the nessicary files to dpkg printtool... (one file that printtool required would require 2 or 3 more files of its own) and somewhere between installing some new c libraries and lpr-ppd i seem to have removed some important gnome packages. I tried to dselect the packages to reinstall but it keeps getting hung up by the fact that i don't have this library that it needs: 'libdb.so.3' i've searched the package directory for it as well as 'libdb.so' and gotten nothing... libdb returns like 700 results and i can't browse all of those for something resembling that library. so here's what i need to know: 1. where do i get that library 2. since i've got lines in .xinitrc to start gmc and the toolbar and neither one of them start, what's the most likely file that would've gotten uninstalled by dselect while installing some c libraries and printtool (and its reqired files)? well, i guess that last one isn't essential, but i'm really starting to get bothered by this printer that linuxdoc.org says will work 'perfectly' but won't even do an 'lptest /dev/usb/lp0' ... did that letter i sent a/b it earlier make it through my slow connection? anyway, i'm almost as confused as i was when i first started installing this crazy OS, so any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks! -- There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with suitable application of High Explosives. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Any way to play midi files?
Is there any way to play midi files on Linux? Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Debian GNU/Linux (Windows-free zone). For electronic books (Homeomythology and The Assassins of Alamut), skeptical essays, and over 130 book reviews, go to http://www.acampbell.org.uk/ Disasters do happen in life, but the disasters that happen are never those that you were worried about. [my father]
Re: consolehelper??
Micke H took 5 tacks to pin this to the wall of linux.debian.user Is consolehelper something that i can find for a debian system? /m apt-cache search consolehelper returned nothing, so it's not in the distro. What is it? Yours in total sincerity, Aquarion -- Official Duck Pond of this village. No tires please, and shopping trollies only by appointment
Re: Can't post to newsgroups . . . at wits end!
On Thu, 09 Aug 2001 21:18:00 GMT, in linux.debian.user you wrote: Talk about your Catch-22's!! I'm at my brother's housesitting for him. He's got 6 computers sharing an @home cable account via a pre-potato firewall/router. I brought my laptop (yellowdog) to do work, and can surf, send and receive email, and receive news postings. But I cannot post myself I get Error 440: Posting Not Allowed. I figure it has something to do with his firewall. Any idea? Are you using the @home newsswerver(a), or the one on your brother's network(b)? If A: Possibly an ISP problem, try from one of the boxes on the network (assumably *he* can use Usenet) If B: He has configured his servers not to let anyone outside his local network post to the server, for Sensible and Correct reasons. Since your laptop isn't on the list of Allowed People, you can't post. *probably* Yours In Total Sincerity Aquarion/Nick Avenell Nick/Aquarion/Belzedar/Touchstone Webperson/PantoPrince/Duckpond/Froupy Http://www.aquarionics.com http://www.terraincognita.org.uk
Re: Any way to play midi files?
#include hallo.h Anthony Campbell wrote on Mon Aug 13, 2001 um 08:50:32AM: Is there any way to play midi files on Linux? ~# apt-cache search MIDI | grep -i play\|seq awe-midi - Linux AWE32 driver MIDI player awe-netscape-libc5 - Linux AWE32 MIDI player Netscape plugin awe-netscape-libc6 - Linux AWE32 MIDI player Netscape plugin (libc6/glibc2.0) brahms - Graphical music editor and MIDI sequencer kmid - midi/karaoke player for KDE kmidi - midi-to-wav player/converter for KDE playmidi - MIDI player pmidi - a command line midi player for ALSA rosegarden - An integrated MIDI sequencer and musical notation editor. sted2 - a fast, functional MIDI sequencer timidity - Software-only MIDI sequencer. timidity-el - An Emacs front end to the timidity software-only MIDI sequencer. timidity-patches - Instrument files for software-only MIDI sequencer. tk707 - TK-707 Drum Sequencer for sound card or MIDI device tse3play - MIDI/TSE3MDL player/converter (tse3play) Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- Diagnose? Erklärungen? Reproduzierbare Lösungen? Sowas wollen nur Leute, die von EDV nichts verstehen.
Re: [ Re: LT WinModem and kernel headers]
Nathan E Norman wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 02:04:24PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: [1] /usr/src has even been deprecated AFAIK. Please post anything you know about this. The Filesystem Hierarechy Standard doesn't mention this. He simply means that you aren't [0] supposed to compile kernels there. I understand compiling and the files involved but I don't yet know where all these files go during a kernel compilation. Doesn't apt-get install put kernel sources in subdirectories of /usr/src ? I guess this is what you mean with your next sentence? /usr/src is under control of the packaging system, so if it were to blow away your source tree you shouldn't be surprised. If I modify the sources and then reinstall them of course I would be in trouble? Thanks, Paul
woody and 2.4.8
Hi, I've got a problem running kernel 2.4.8 with Athlon optimizations turned on. After compiling and restarting the machine I'm not able to load modules. I always get an error that the symbol _mmx_memcpy() could not be resolved. After looking in the sources it seems to be that this module is compiled and exported. When I compiled my kernel withour this optimizations everything is working. Does anyone have a solution for this problem? Thanks in advance. Sven -- Aufgepasst - jetzt viele 11 New WebHosting Pakete ohne Einrichtungsgebuehr + 1 Monat Grundgebuehrbefreiung! http://puretec.de/index.html?ac=OM.PU.PU003K00736T0492a
Re: Upgrading kernel
Daniel == Daniel Toffetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel I never installed a kernel using the woody mirrors Daniel yet. Whenever I upgrade a package using dselect, it simply Daniel unpacks it and configures it. I guess whether the Daniel installation of a kernel package is somewhat different in Daniel that it would require user interactive configuration (in Daniel the middle of dselect activities). Could you please Daniel explain a bit about how would you install and configure Daniel the kernel this way ?? I mean, how do dpkg operates when Daniel the package is a kernel. Hi Daniel, I just went through this process yesterday. It's really pretty easier and as a former RedHat user, it is way cool! First, you want to have the Debian FAQ by your side : www.debian.org/doc/FAQ. Chapter 9 covers kernel stuff. Then grab the package kernel-package. This is the thing that makes upgrading kernels really easy. Now you need kernel source. You can get this from kernel.org, or you can get a deb package containing the source. I did the latter yesterday and upgraded to 2.4.7. Doing an apt-get for the kernel source package just gets you a compressed file for the kernel sources. You have to unpack it by hand. No biggie. Now comes the hard part. You have to select your kernel build options. Do a 'make xconfig' and you'll get a gui that presents you with endless choices to make. If you have a .config file, you can click on the button that reads this file and it will show the options set in your running kernel. If you don't have a .config, then you need to go through each of the choices and decide what you want in your new kernel. The process takes about 10 minutes of clicking. Now, following the faq, you'll do a 'make-kpkg -rev, followed by a dpkg --install, reboot, and you have a new kernel running. Always have a working boot floppy, just in case ;-) -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
SOLVED: Re: gnumeric and gnome-print
This I can confirm by running gnome-font-install -d : What is gnome-font-install missing? Any ideas? Does running /usr/share/doc/libgnomeprint-data/run-gnome-font-install help? Ack, anyone got a fix for this Gnumeric problem? The solution: apt-get install gsfonts I think gnumeric should at least recommend this package, ? Hugo van der Merwe -- To send me private (non-world-readable) mail, GPG encrypt it. 1024D/60715698: 5F2E 8EC2 E0A4 5D25 0569 F281 4A6C D76D 6071 5698 pgpb5M8xovHB5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Which SCSI-Controller?
Hi List Now that I have a real fast CPU and really a lot of RAM, my SCSI-Controller (an old Adaptec 2940-Ultra) is the speed-limit in my box. I have three harddisks, two U-SCSI and one U2W with an adaptor, two SCSI-CD-Roms and an SCSI-scanner. I'm thinking about either a dual-channel controller, which can handle the big fast U2W-drive at full speed on one channel, and the slower devices on the second channel. The other possibility is a new controller for the fast drive, keeping the old one for the other devices. So, what seems to be the best solution to you? A well-supported dual-channel controller, or an additional U2W or U160? thank you joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
linux tag 2001 cd -hisax
hallo! ich hoffe ich bin hier richtig und mein problem liegt nicht meiner unfähigkeit. ich habe mir bei lehmanns die linuxtag 2001 cd gekauft und auf meinen rechner installiert. beim einrichten meiner isdn fritz pci karte kommt unter /var/log/syslog allerdings die meldung "debian kernel: hisax aproval certification failed because of unauthorized suorce code changes" wenn ich den alten kernel auf der cd boote passiert das selbe. über modconf lässt sich hisax laden und lsmod zeigt auch das hisax aktiv ist. ich habe /etc/isdn/ipppd.ippp0 und device.ippp0 richtig konfiguriert, auch resolv.conf und die pap einstellungen vorgenommen. beim starten von isdnutils kommt diem eldung ippp0 device not found (oder so ähnlich). ich komme nicht ins internet. ich hoffe ihr könnt mir helfen. Vielen Dank bernd ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **
Unidentified subject!
Dear debian; I would like to learn something about Linux, but I finding it very frustrating, I have visited dozens of sites looking for a OS, and they all seem to be too small (1 or 2 floppies) or too big (over 300 M), or they simply don't specify the systems minimum requirements. I do not want to experiment with the computer I use for work/school, but I have a project computer I would like to install some version of Linux on. 133 Mhz Pentium less than 300 Mb available hard drive 8 Mb mem. All I want is a version of Linux I can install on this machine, that has a graphic interface (I have old/bad memories of DOS), I'm even willing to pay a small amount. I look forward to hearing from you; Gary Largess Tipton, Iowa
Rückruf: linux tag 2001 cd -hisax
Hietler, Bernd möchte die Nachricht linux tag 2001 cd -hisax zurückrufen. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **
Re: Reading a mac disk
Salut, On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 04:32:41PM -0400, William T Wilson wrote: I want to take a Macintosh IDE hard drive (System 8.6), connect it to my x86 Linux system and read the data off of it. (In a pinch, I could use a Windows system too, but that looks harder). Do I have a prayer? :} I've used mtools to read Mac floppies, but as far as I know these are no use for reading hard drive data. You might want to take a look at `apt-cache show hfsutils` and `apt-cache show hfsplus`. jops, Christoph. -- Anything that is good and useful is made of chocolate.
yet another apt question
Hi List Where does apt store the packages.gz files it downloaded when doing apt-get update? My idea is to copy them to another computer (which has no internet access) for doing a dist-upgrade. I think all I need is an up-to-date list of available packages including their dependencies, and the new packages in /var/cache/apt/archives. Is this as easy as I hope? If no, how can I uprgade a totally off-network box? thanks joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: yet another apt question
use download only option for apt-get , debs are already compressed, then transfer - Original Message - From: Joerg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:32 AM Subject: yet another apt question Hi List Where does apt store the packages.gz files it downloaded when doing apt-get update? My idea is to copy them to another computer (which has no internet access) for doing a dist-upgrade. I think all I need is an up-to-date list of available packages including their dependencies, and the new packages in /var/cache/apt/archives. Is this as easy as I hope? If no, how can I uprgade a totally off-network box? thanks joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yet another apt question
Antonio Rodriguez wrote: use download only option for apt-get , debs are already compressed, then transfer NO, you misunderstood my question. I know what to do with the debs, once I have them downloaded. I want to know how to tell the offline-box which debs to use without doing apt-get update (because it's impossible). joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: Installation Problem...Keyboard error
it's definitely not a USB keyboard. I have a USB mouse though. Rick - Original Message - From: Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rick Dunetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Installation Problem...Keyboard error On 12 Aug 2001 22:38:40 -0400, Rick Dunetz wrote: I've done a bunch of Debian installations and I have never seen the error message that comes up on my AMD Athlon 1.33 Gig machine (I also have a maxtor 40 gig 7200 rpm HD with a Windows 98 partition). During the boot disk there is an error message that looks like this: Keyboard: Timeout - AT Keyboard not present? Then when it asks me to put in the root disk and press enter...nothing happens. Probably because my keyboard wasn't recognized. I've tried several different keyboards and I even tried installing slackware 8...but to no avail. The same problem occured. Anyone have any suggestions? I would really appreciate it. Do you have a usb keyboard? If this is the case do you have a spare AT keyboard to get your install done so you can get usb support turned on? --mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: upgrade to testing (woody) -- failed
Hi, I ran into a similar problem going from stable to unstable and updating the basic libraries. The original libdb.so.3 symlink to libdb-2.1.3.so was replaced by a symlink pointing to libdb-old.so, which didn't exist. Replacing the original symlink seemed to fix it. Got a bit scary there for a moment, since apt relied on perl to run, and perl didn't work because of the missing library. :-) Regards, Peter. -Original Message- From: John Bagdanoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Sent: maandag 13 augustus 2001 04:05 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: upgrade to testing (woody) -- failed On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 01:28:28AM +, nestea wrote: hi all, tonight when i tried to upgrade a few boxes to woody, i received the following error message. any idea? --- perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory E: Write error - write (32 Broken pipe) E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt --- I ran into the same problem a few days ago, I took the file from another woody box added it to the one I just upgraded. That got me past the upgrade But, then ldconfig c/o /lib/libdb.so.3 was not a link. So I renamed it, then linked it with libdb.so.3. Works for now anyway. john -- -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Using [Debian] Linux _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get packages via a Windows box
I've installed the base Debian system as a dual with MS Windows. I want to install X-Window from the Debian web site. The lab where I'm 'working' has a DSL connection, however, I can only get it to work with Windows. Currently, I'm downloading files via IE to the Dos partition, rebooting to Linux and finishing the install there. For small stuff, I can tolerate this. For X-window, I need to do something better. I've been trying to setup a network connection on the Linux side via pppoe, but I have no support here and it looks like a dead end. I'm thinking of a Windows version of atp-get. If I had that, I could bring down all the packages for X-window create a local mirror on my dos partition and then run atp-get under Linux this time the local mirror is my source). Has this been done before? Are there binaries I can grab? Do you have any helpful suggestions?
Re: dosemu
[EMAIL PROTECTED], It's a dos emulatoryou use like dos... I have a feeling this is not the answer you want. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said thusly on [13/08/01 at 08:40]: How do you use 'dosemu' and what is it ? Thsnks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Shyam Quality can Never be Quantified . It exists by itself and Quantity might hand it an untimely demise if blown out of the very fragile proportions that constitute it . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone who thinks they're important is usually just a pompous moron who can't deal with his or her own pathetic insignificance and the fact that what they do is meaningless and inconsequential... (William Thomas)
Re: How to get packages via a Windows box
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 06:26:23AM -0500, Gary Setter wrote: I've installed the base Debian system as a dual with MS Windows. I want to install X-Window from the Debian web site. The lab where I'm 'working' has a DSL connection, however, I can only get it to work with Windows. Currently, I'm downloading files via IE to the Dos partition, rebooting to Linux and finishing the install there. For small stuff, I can tolerate this. For X-window, I need to do something better. I've been trying to setup a network connection on the Linux side via pppoe, but I have no support here and it looks like a dead end. I'm thinking of a Windows version of atp-get. If I had that, I could bring down all the packages for X-window create a local mirror on my dos partition and then run atp-get under Linux this time the local mirror is my source). Has this been done before? Are there binaries I can grab? Do you have any helpful suggestions? If you're running Woody or Unstable, the easiest is the --print-uris option of apt-get. I use this for example: $ apt-get install aspell --assume-yes --print-uris | sed s/\'//g | grep http | cut -f 1 -d This gives me a list like this: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/aspell/aspell_0.32.6-3.4_i386.deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/aspell/libaspell8_0.32.6-3.4_i386.deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libt/libtool/libltdl3_1.4b-2_i386.deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pspell/libpspell2_0.11.2-2.5_i386.deb There is a script on vim.sf.net to convert this to GetRight whatever files. And you do get wget for windows. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix
Re: How to get packages via a Windows box
I've installed the base Debian system as a dual with MS Windows. I want to install X-Window from the Debian web site. The lab where I'm 'working' has a DSL connection, however, I can only get it to work with Windows. snip I've been trying to setup a network connection on the Linux side via pppoe, but I have no support here and it looks like a dead end. Have you tried Roaring Penguin's PPPoE client ?? It worked *perfectly* for me although I've ran into numerous people who've had trouble with it. In all honesty, I think they were simply newbies (too impatient, didn't read the docs, etc). The website for the utility is here: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ They have a HOW-TO-CONNECT file here: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/how-to-connect.txt Print it out, read it, and keep it handy !! Regards Hall
Where to put stuff .. FHS
Howdy, I'm a newbie. I am installing potato on a box to use for a photo stock house/ web / graphic design operation. I will be maintaining a fairly large and constantly increasing collection of image files, as well as accounting stuff, metadata on image files, directories for client projects etc. I've had a look at some FHS info and am still unclear where the preferred location for my data is, and what the implications are for partitioning disks. I prefer not to restructure later on. I would appreciate any help on how to set up for flexibility in backing up, upgrading hard drives etc. TIA, Kent -- Kent Tenney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/13/2001
Re: How to get packages via a Windows box
Danie Roux wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 06:26:23AM -0500, Gary Setter wrote: I've installed the base Debian system as a dual with MS Windows. I want to install X-Window from the Debian web site. The lab where I'm 'working' has a DSL connection, however, I can only get it to work with Windows. Currently, I'm downloading files via IE to the Dos partition, rebooting to Linux and finishing the install there. For small stuff, I can tolerate this. For X-window, I need to do something better. I've been trying to setup a network connection on the Linux side via pppoe, but I have no support here and it looks like a dead end. I'm thinking of a Windows version of atp-get. If I had that, I could bring down all the packages for X-window create a local mirror on my dos partition and then run atp-get under Linux this time the local mirror is my source). Has this been done before? Are there binaries I can grab? Do you have any helpful suggestions? If you're running Woody or Unstable, the easiest is the --print-uris option of apt-get. I use this for example: $ apt-get install aspell --assume-yes --print-uris | sed s/\'//g | grep http | cut -f 1 -d This gives me a list like this: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/aspell/aspell_0.32.6-3.4_i386.deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/aspell/libaspell8_0.32.6-3.4_i386.deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libt/libtool/libltdl3_1.4b-2_i386.deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pspell/libpspell2_0.11.2-2.5_i386.deb There is a script on vim.sf.net to convert this to GetRight whatever files. And you do get wget for windows. Hmm. This looks good, but I think this guy's biggest problem is to get the packages files. He won't be able to run apt-get update on his box, and so apt won't know the urls for the debs. (This is the same problem I have posted ~1 hour ago -- how to get apt up-to-date on an offline box?) So, if anybody can help us, please.. joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: Unidentified subject!
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 05:48:21AM -0500, gary p largess wrote: Dear debian; I would like to learn something about Linux, but I finding it very frustrating, I have visited dozens of sites looking for a OS, and they all seem to be too small (1 or 2 floppies) or too big (over 300 M), or they simply don't specify the systems minimum requirements. I do not want to experiment with the computer I use for work/school, but I have a project computer I would like to install some version of Linux on. 133 Mhz Pentium less than 300 Mb available hard drive 8 Mb mem. All I want is a version of Linux I can install on this machine, that has a graphic interface (I have old/bad memories of DOS), I'm even willing to pay a small amount. You will have a hard time getting Linux's graphical environment (X Windows) to work on such a machine, if it can be done at all. Not a job for a beginner. I think you can learn a great deal about Linux by installing a base Debian system and working with it. This can be done entirely by floppy. A more complete installation will require cdrom or some kind of network connection. Mike
RE: Debian box unable to HTTP to www.nai.com - FIXED
I thoroughly enjoyed this ripping tale of intrigue, adventure, and romance, but would you mind explaining to a debian-newbie exactly who or what the culprit was? I've been having trouble connecting to various sites (www.ups.com,www.zdnet.com,www.sun.com to name a few) and I have absoluetly no idea why. I've tried with 4 different web browsers, they all begin making the http connection and just hang. Same problem I'm sure. If you've downloaded the kernel source, you can check what the directive is by doing your 'make menuconfig' and looking in the networking section at the help on 'Explicit network congestion notification'. The help states that many firewalls can't handle this yet. The command to turn it off is 'echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn'. You would need to do this at every startup so placing it in one of your rc scripts would be a good idea. I just put it in init.d/bootmisc.sh. Good luck. :) I can ping zdnet and sun but not ups. I also can't ping amazon but I can load it in a web browser. Just as an aside, a lot of sites won't let you ping them...and with good reason. So if you find a site that doesn't reply, it doesn't mean you configured something wrong. It just means they are a little more paranoid about the 'Ping of Death' and other nastiness. In the land of the Internet, villains abound. ;-)
Re: Chrooting a user?
Hallo Sunny, * Sunny schrieb: hey How would i Chroot a user? I want him to be able to log into the machine like any other user, however his home directory would be his root directory, and he could do whatever he wants below it. Something like this .. (must have fixed-width font) /home/user -- / Virtual-Root | |-/bin |-/usr |-/var and so forth. Any ideas or pointers would be really appreciated, thanks. What about openssh with contrib/chroot.diff applied? Search through debian-isp, there is a thread about it. -- bye Waldemar
Re: How to get packages via a Windows box
snip There is a script on vim.sf.net to convert this to GetRight whatever files. And you do get wget for windows. Hmm. This looks good, but I think this guy's biggest problem is to get the packages files. He won't be able to run apt-get update on his box, and so apt won't know the urls for the debs. (This is the same problem I have posted ~1 hour ago -- how to get apt up-to-date on an offline box?) So, if anybody can help us, please.. joerg Install doc-debian. There's a guide in there telling you how (at least I think it's in doc-debian, but the guide exists). -- Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix
Re: IMAP: new mail notification works ONLY for inbox?
Hallo Erik, * Erik schrieb: I would appreciate clarification of this issue (imap and mail delivery or imap and new mail notification), I have already read the IMAP book and some online docs but haven't found anything about this aspect of imap mail serving. I am not sure what to check so some pointers would be appreciated (I don't even know whether it's problem of MUAs not asking for status of different mailboxes or the above problem of procmail and imap both accessing mailboxes on file level or something else) my system: debian unstable, kernel 2.4.5 uw-imapd-ssl various MUAs (mutt, netscape, mozilla etc.) no problem with mail notifications on my systems here. debian unstable, kernel 2.4.6 courier-imap-ssl mutt .muttrc: mailboxes = imaps://imap/INBOX imaps://imap/INBOX.debian-user ... The difference to your setup is that I'm using procmail to deliver to mailboxes in maildir format. (courier only recognize maildir's ) -- bye Waldemar
Converting ps-file
I have a couple of postscript files that are made for letter-size paper, and I would like to convert these into a4 format before printing them. How would I best go about to do this? TIA Jesper
Re: yet another apt question
On 13 Aug 2001 13:32:48 +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote: Hi List Where does apt store the packages.gz files it downloaded when doing apt-get update? My idea is to copy them to another computer (which has no internet access) for doing a dist-upgrade. I think all I need is an up-to-date list of available packages including their dependencies, and the new packages in /var/cache/apt/archives. Is this as easy as I hope? If no, how can I uprgade a totally off-network box? In sid, apt store the info in /var/lib/apt/lists, don't remember for potato... (something like /var/state/apt/lists, but i could be wrong) Andrea
setting locale fails
Hi there, running apt-get install bla produces this warning: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = de_DE, LANG = de_DE are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). locale sais: LANG=de_DE LC_CTYPE=de_DE LC_NUMERIC=de_DE LC_TIME=de_DE LC_COLLATE=de_DE LC_MONETARY=de_DE LC_MESSAGES=de_DE LC_PAPER=de_DE LC_NAME=de_DE LC_ADDRESS=de_DE LC_TELEPHONE=de_DE LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_DE LC_ALL=de_DE I've installed the package user_de a while ago, but removed it after some time. System: Potato. Thanks, Sven
re: wvdial: pppd connects, but telnet doesn't work
First of all, thanks to several debian-users who tried to help me yesterday with this problem. Sadder but wiser, I was reading mail with an unfamiliar reader, and I managed to delete most of the e-mails. So, my first question today is HOWTO find the debian-user archives. I did read Sebastian's note re telnet before the mailserver crash. So, I tried that in another console - no joy. However, on my office machine with a full install including KDE, Sebastian's method worked. Eg, after establishing dial-up connection, telnet to my ISP will run in a console. And, I can ping ISP. Would appreciate suggestions again about running a connection with the laptop. TIA, dave
Bash/Perl weirdness
Hi, Question: I've got a perl script with the following permissions: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root23980 Aug 13 15:55 data_update.pl the first line in the script is: #!/usr/bin/perl which is where perl lives on Debian potato - perl -V gives the correct reponse ... but # ./data_update.pl gives me: bash: ./data_update.pl: No such file or directory What gives? What obvious thing am I missing here cause other scripts run fine. TAI, Eugene van Zyl
Re: Where to put stuff .. FHS
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 08:15:03AM -0500, Kent Tenney wrote: Howdy, I'm a newbie. I am installing potato on a box to use for a photo stock house/ web / graphic design operation. I will be maintaining a fairly large and constantly increasing collection of image files, as well as accounting stuff, metadata on image files, directories for client projects etc. I've had a look at some FHS info and am still unclear where the preferred location for my data is, and what the implications are for partitioning disks. I prefer not to restructure later on. I would appreciate any help on how to set up for flexibility in backing up, upgrading hard drives etc. I think you should regard your image and accounting data as user data. Hence, the only guidance that FSH provides for this is that it goes somewhere under /home/joeuser/. Your image data will probably be the most valuable and space consuming data on your system. Plan your backup stratagy around that. Ideally, you should be able to backup your largest partition to one tape. You dont have to do this, but it makes things easier. Since 650 MB is prolly too small, you cant use cdrw, you need to spring for a tape drive. Big tape drives cost much more than big hard drives these days. Worse, tape drives are usually promoted using their compressed capacity, which is generally 2X their native capacity. Most of your data will be image files, which (I assume) is already compressed. In this case, the tape drive's hardware compression could actually make the backup file *bigger*. Make your purchase decison based on native capacity. I suggest you proceed as follows: - Decide on a tape drive. - Partition your system as follows: one partition to be mounted as /home, sized according to the native capacity of your backup drive. one swap partition a partition for everything else Well this is how I would do it. I am sure that there are plenty of other opinions and philosophies around. I hope this helps. Mike
Re: Bash/Perl weirdness
Hallo Eugene, * Eugene schrieb: Hi, Question: I've got a perl script with the following permissions: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root23980 Aug 13 15:55 data_update.pl the first line in the script is: #!/usr/bin/perl which is where perl lives on Debian potato - perl -V gives the correct reponse ... but # ./data_update.pl gives me: bash: ./data_update.pl: No such file or directory What gives? What obvious thing am I missing here cause other scripts run fine. Take a look into the script and you will see there is a file or directory missing. To get more warnings use: #!/usr/bin/perl -w -- bye Waldemar
Re: Where to put stuff .. FHS
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 08:15:03AM -0500, Kent Tenney wrote: I will be maintaining a fairly large and constantly increasing collection of image files, as well as accounting stuff, metadata on image files, directories for client projects etc. That all sounds like user data to me. I've had a look at some FHS info and am still unclear where the preferred location for my data is, and what the implications are for partitioning disks. User data goes in your home directory. Make /home big enough to handle all of it. -- With the arrest of Dimitry Sklyarov it has become apparent that it is not safe for non US software engineers to visit the United States. - Alan Cox To prevent unauthorized reading... - Adobe eBook reader license
RE: xfree86 and default font 'fixed'
That won't work, it wasn't there before, I just added that in an attempt to fix that. I probably should have mentioned that. -Original Message- From: Michael Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 13, 2001 5:15 AM To: Jeffrey Drake Subject: Re: xfree86 and default font 'fixed' Quoting Jeffrey Drake on Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 01:53:23AM -0400: FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/local/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath unix/:7100 Try commenting out the last line, unix/:7100, and try to start X again. -- Michael Perry | Do or do not; there is no try Master Yoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.lnxpowered.org
1024 Cylinder Violation
I installed potato on a friend's computer using the CDs and foolishly disregarded the warning telling me the kernel must reside on the first 1024 cylinders. The computer is question is a Pentium 90 with a 10 gig disk, a 2 gig disk and a preexisting Windows 95 installation. I was installing Debian on a couple of unpartitioned gigs at the end of the drive. On boot, now, LILO gets to `LIL' and then quits. I would very much like to restore this system to bootable status without any loss of (Windows) data. Any suggestions on my best course of action? I have access to a Windows machine with net access, the Debian rescue disk, Debian CDs, and a Windows 95 boot disk. Please send replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sincerely, Jonathan Pearce
Re: CrushLink New Password
also sprach Vineet Kumar (on Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:10:48PM -0700): In this case, maybe it'd be better for each of us to implement it at our respective leaf nodes rather than at the listmaster level. This way, one ign'ant post to debian-user would result in HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS (okay, so not that, but some other large number representing the number of subscribers) of PYHO! messages to the sender. sure, but that would be pretty harsh, would it not? especially with people being forced to use OE at work but still subscribing to debian-user. martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- riesco a leggerti i pensieri. dovresti vergognarti. pgpCCXpTDqJ9Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: yet another apt question
Joerg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JJ NO, you misunderstood my question. I know what to do with the debs, once JJ I have them downloaded. I want to know how to tell the offline-box which JJ debs to use without doing apt-get update (because it's JJ impossible). You can just copy the package files from one machine to the other and install them using 'dpkg --install filename.deb'. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell
Re: Is it possible to do this using logrotate?
Steve McWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I looked more closely at what is happening and actually the log file IS being truncated by logrotate, however as soon as the logging process writes to the log file again it is restored to it's original size and grows from there again. The original content of the file is sometimes garbled however, up to the point where it was truncated, which I hadn't noticed originally. [...] If this is the case then I don't see any purpose for the copytruncate option here at all actually. This area is underdocumented, but I ran a few tests: (while true; do sleep 1; date; done) mylog The file will grow always, truncating just zeros what was there already. (while true; do sleep 1; date; done) mylog Truncation works as expected. So I think your program must open the log with O_APPEND and everything should run dandy. Logfiles should probably always be opened this way, i.e. failure to do so can be construed as a bug. -- Robbe signature.ng Description: PGP signature
Re: IP masquerade not working!! :( (fwd)
On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 08:23:40PM -0400, dude wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Roberto Diaz wrote: Does any of this work directly from the gateway box without any MASQ rules loaded? Thank you for your help.. it is some kind of problem with my network cards... It is quite strange.. if I try to send a huge file (using ftp) from my host to the gateway it goes at the speed of light.. but if I try to take a file from the gateway to the host it crawls.. :??? This is not ip-masquerade specific.. but somebody has some idea? Sounds like your gateway does not know its hosts That could be it. Seems to me though that it would only cause it to be slow to connect, but be fine afterwards? I'm not sure on this, but it would help to know what part is slow. If it connects fine and is just slow, it could be any number of other things. Check your logs. Always. :) And look at the settings of course; you may be right that it's the cards. Just a shot in the dark- you mentioned in another message the mtu was set ok, just check that it's the same on both boxes. Sorry I can't be of more help. Maybe if you gave some info on the cards somebody else could help a bit more. HTH, Mike McGuire
Re: Any way to play midi files?
Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AC Is there any way to play midi files on Linux? I tend to use timidity for software-only MIDI playback, but it's computationally intensive and has huge patch files. (The results do sound pretty good, though.) If you have an external MIDI device and have everything else configured properly, something like playmidi might do the job for you too. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell
Re: Converting ps-file
psresize -Pletter -pa4 infile.ps outfile.ps - Original Message - From: Jesper Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:54 AM Subject: Converting ps-file I have a couple of postscript files that are made for letter-size paper, and I would like to convert these into a4 format before printing them. How would I best go about to do this? TIA Jesper -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yet another apt question
David Z. Maze wrote: Joerg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JJ NO, you misunderstood my question. I know what to do with the debs, once JJ I have them downloaded. I want to know how to tell the offline-box which JJ debs to use without doing apt-get update (because it's JJ impossible). You can just copy the package files from one machine to the other and install them using 'dpkg --install filename.deb'. This is ok for installing one or two packages, but it is near impossible for a dist-upgrade. joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: 1024 Cylinder Violation
Jonathan David Pearce wrote: I installed potato on a friend's computer using the CDs and foolishly disregarded the warning telling me the kernel must reside on the first 1024 cylinders. The computer is question is a Pentium 90 with a 10 gig disk, a 2 gig disk and a preexisting Windows 95 installation. I was installing Debian on a couple of unpartitioned gigs at the end of the drive. There are two disks in the computer? On which one you have installed Debian and where have you installed lilo? On boot, now, LILO gets to `LIL' and then quits. I would very much like to restore this system to bootable status without any loss of (Windows) data. Any suggestions on my best course of action? I have access to a Windows machine with net access, the Debian rescue disk, Debian CDs, and a Windows 95 boot disk. To remove lilo, you can boot with a win boot floppy a type fdisk /mbr. This overwrites lilo in mbr and you can boot windows. After that, you can only boot Debian with a boot floppy or rescue disk, so make sure you have one and it works. By, Sven
Re: SOLVED: Re: gnumeric and gnome-print
The solution: apt-get install gsfonts Oh, followed by a dpkg-reconfigure libgnomeprint-data, or the perl /usr/share/doc/libgnomeprint-data/run-* thingy. (What an odd place to put an installation script, eh?) I think gnumeric should at least recommend this package, ? This isn't really gnumeric's problem, is it? Rather, libgnomeprint-data should recommend the gsfonts package? Hugo van der Merwe -- To send me private (non-world-readable) mail, GPG encrypt it. 1024D/60715698: 5F2E 8EC2 E0A4 5D25 0569 F281 4A6C D76D 6071 5698 pgpnEwtmFRJgH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian box unable to HTTP to www.nai.com - FIXED
On Monday 13 August 2001 08:22 am, you wrote: I thoroughly enjoyed this ripping tale of intrigue, adventure, and romance, but would you mind explaining to a debian-newbie exactly who or what the culprit was? I've been having trouble connecting to various sites (www.ups.com,www.zdnet.com,www.sun.com to name a few) and I have absoluetly no idea why. I've tried with 4 different web browsers, they all begin making the http connection and just hang. Same problem I'm sure. If you've downloaded the kernel source, you can check what the directive is by doing your 'make menuconfig' and looking in the networking section at the help on 'Explicit network congestion notification'. The help states that many firewalls can't handle this yet. The command to turn it off is 'echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn'. You would need to do this at every startup so placing it in one of your rc scripts would be a good idea. I just put it in init.d/bootmisc.sh. Thanks for the help. I'm afraid someone beat you to the punch, though. :) I've been happily connecting to all those antiquated servers all weekend. Just a quick note, it seems that Debian provides a means of setting sysctl variables without having to issue such commands in an init script. I have the line net/ipv4/tcp_ecn = 0 in /etc/sysctl.conf. I'm sure the effect is identical, though. Good luck. :) I can ping zdnet and sun but not ups. I also can't ping amazon but I can load it in a web browser. Just as an aside, a lot of sites won't let you ping them...and with good reason. So if you find a site that doesn't reply, it doesn't mean you configured something wrong. It just means they are a little more paranoid about the 'Ping of Death' and other nastiness. Thanks for the info; that makes a lot of sense. In the land of the Internet, villains abound. ;-) Indeed they do; all those NON-Debian boxes! :) Michael
Re: 1024 Cylinder Violation
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Sven Garbade wrote: Jonathan David Pearce wrote: I installed potato on a friend's computer using the CDs and foolishly disregarded the warning telling me the kernel must reside on the first 1024 cylinders. The computer is question is a Pentium 90 with a 10 gig disk, a 2 gig disk and a preexisting Windows 95 installation. I was installing Debian on a couple of unpartitioned gigs at the end of the drive. There are two disks in the computer? On which one you have installed Debian and where have you installed lilo? The large disk (10 gig) has both the Debian base system and lilo. The small disk has just (Windows) data; the large disk has the Win95 installation. On boot, now, LILO gets to `LIL' and then quits. I would very much like to restore this system to bootable status without any loss of (Windows) data. Any suggestions on my best course of action? I have access to a Windows machine with net access, the Debian rescue disk, Debian CDs, and a Windows 95 boot disk. To remove lilo, you can boot with a win boot floppy a type fdisk /mbr. This overwrites lilo in mbr and you can boot windows. After that, you can only boot Debian with a boot floppy or rescue disk, so make sure you have one and it works. By, Sven Mmm, sounds good. Will try as soon as I leave work. Sincerely, Jonathan Pearce
Re: How to get packages via a Windows box
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Pac kages - Original Message - From: Joerg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Danie Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:20 AM Subject: Re: How to get packages via a Windows box Danie Roux wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 06:26:23AM -0500, Gary Setter wrote: I've installed the base Debian system as a dual with MS Windows. I want to install X-Window from the Debian web site. The lab where I'm 'working' has a DSL connection, however, I can only get it to work with Windows. Currently, I'm downloading files via IE to the Dos partition, rebooting to Linux and finishing the install there. For small stuff, I can tolerate this. For X-window, I need to do something better. I've been trying to setup a network connection on the Linux side via pppoe, but I have no support here and it looks like a dead end. I'm thinking of a Windows version of atp-get. If I had that, I could bring down all the packages for X-window create a local mirror on my dos partition and then run atp-get under Linux this time the local mirror is my source). Has this been done before? Are there binaries I can grab? Do you have any helpful suggestions? If you're running Woody or Unstable, the easiest is the --print-uris option of apt-get. I use this for example: $ apt-get install aspell --assume-yes --print-uris | sed s/\'//g | grep http | cut -f 1 -d This gives me a list like this: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/aspell/aspell_0.32.6 -3.4_i386.deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/aspell/libaspell8_0. 32.6-3.4_i386.deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libt/libtool/libltdl3_ 1.4b-2_i386.deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pspell/libpspell2_0. 11.2-2.5_i386.deb There is a script on vim.sf.net to convert this to GetRight whatever files. And you do get wget for windows. Hmm. This looks good, but I think this guy's biggest problem is to get the packages files. He won't be able to run apt-get update on his box, and so apt won't know the urls for the debs. (This is the same problem I have posted ~1 hour ago -- how to get apt up-to-date on an offline box?) So, if anybody can help us, please.. joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this the proper list of packages for http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Pac kages that $ apt-get install aspell --assume-yes --print-uris | sed s/\'//g | grep http | cut -f 1 -d needs? If so, where do I put the Packages file? I wanted to stay with potato stable. Do I have a chance? Thanks! Gary
dpkg removal error
Hi, I am trying to remove a program that I installed this morning. The program was snort which I downloaded from the unstable distribution. If I do a apt-get remove snort it return the error Ldconfig not found in path NB: roots PATH should contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and ./sbin I not that these paths are there. Was this because snort required libc6 (=2.2.3). I removed this because it caused all sort of problems with Sendmail Apache etc. Thanks Eileen Orbell ISA Major Capitol College Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.orbell.net
Re: Searching in dselect
The '/' key is helpful in searching for a string in the package name, but it will not search the descriptions of the packages. I seem to remember in a previous version (even before slink) that it used to do this. Hm. Not quite what you were looking for, but 'apt-cache search' does this. As long as apt knows about packages, and if dselect uses apt as its get method or whatever, it does. As for searching descriptions in dselect, I'd like to know too. I'm surprised one of the dselect evangelists hasn't piped up on this yet... ;) HTH, Mike McGuire
Re: yet another apt question
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 03:40:11PM +0200, Andrea Vettorello wrote: In sid, apt store the info in /var/lib/apt/lists, don't remember for potato... (something like /var/state/apt/lists, but i could be wrong) Actually for potato they are in /var/state/apt/lists. In woody and sid they are in /var/lib/apt/lists. Regards, Willi -- i am a sysadmin because i couldn't beat a blind monkey in a coding contest. pgpvF4bHtg773.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 1024 Cylinder Violation
Jonathan David Pearce wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Sven Garbade wrote: Jonathan David Pearce wrote: I installed potato on a friend's computer using the CDs and foolishly disregarded the warning telling me the kernel must reside on the first 1024 cylinders. The computer is question is a Pentium 90 with a 10 gig disk, a 2 gig disk and a preexisting Windows 95 installation. I was installing Debian on a couple of unpartitioned gigs at the end of the drive. There are two disks in the computer? On which one you have installed Debian and where have you installed lilo? The large disk (10 gig) has both the Debian base system and lilo. The small disk has just (Windows) data; the large disk has the Win95 installation. I presume that the small disk is the first disk on the first controler (/dev/hda). Do you have specified the boot device correctly in lilo.conf? boot=/dev/hda By, Sven
