Re: utiliser correctement hosts.deny sur un NAS à base debian

2010-06-19 Thread giggz
Le 18/06/2010 15:26, fabrice régnier a écrit :
 'lut,
 
 J'ai un NAS
 [zap]
 connecte sans problème... ???!!!??? et là je ne comprends plus...faut il
 redémarer apache ? y a t il une subtile option à faire passer à apache
 pour lui dire de lire les fichiers hosts.allow et deny ?
 De mémoire, je crois qu'Apache ne supporte pas un tcp wrapper du genre
 hosts.allow/hosts.deny. Peut-être que si tu lui rajoute une extension ?
 

bon j'ai désactiver apache...et mis en place un ftp...au moins j'ai les
bons droits maintenant!

pour ce que ça intéresse et qui ne le savent déjà pas (en gros les
novices comme moi :D ), le seul moyen que j'ai trouvé pour faire
cohabiter 3 pc sous debian, 2 pc sous windows et 1 pc distant sous linux
c'est de mettre en place un ftp accessible de partout (ça va gérer les
droits correctement), du cifs en local pour windows (ça gère les droits
à peu près) et du NFS en local pour la lecture rapide.

Bye

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Mon joypad fait bouger ma souris...

2010-06-19 Thread giggz
Bonjour,

j'ai installé l'émulateur supernes sur ma debian instable. Je branche
donc mon joypad et là qd je joue avec les flèches de mon joypad ça fait
bouger ma souris :'(...comme qd j'arrive en bout de bureau, je change
sur celui d'a coté...vous comprenez facilement que je ne peux pas jouer.
savez vous comment modifier ce comportement ??? sans doute une modif à
la noix dans xorg.conf...mais j'ai po trouvé...

Merci d'avance,
Guillaume

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Re: [ubuntu-bo] Desconfiguración al conectrar lapto p a la tele :S

2010-06-19 Thread Tn 4dm1n
una cosa tienes que tener en cuenta que para que lso menus se acomoden a la
resolucion del pantalla de 32 de pulgadas tienes que incrementar el tamaño

tu laptop debe ser de 17 o 19 pulgadas no?

para 17 o 19 pulgadas va perfecto 1280x768  pero para un monitor de 32
tienes que aumetnar proporcionalmente el tamaño

a por ejemplo
un
2560 X 1536
algo parecido
tendrias que aumentar la resolucion de la pantalla a una mayor
en este caso no se si exista la posibilidad de usar 2 configuraciones
distintas por pantalla


El 17 de junio de 2010 12:51, Jhonatan jh...@jhtan.com escribió:

 HOla listas.
 Generalmente no escribo para solucionar mis problemas, pero ahora si que
 me paso algo que no entiendo y me gustaría que me dieran una manito si
 han tenido una experiencia como la mía..., bueno..
 Tengo una laptop HP 550 con resolución de 1280x768 con Debian Lenny 5.04
 y la conecté con un cable vga(los que se usan para los data shows) a un
 televisor Sony pantalla plana de 32 pulgadas... la resolución se acomodó
 bastante bien, pero las letras de los menús, iconos y todo eran
 gigantes, así que fui a
 Sistema-Administración-Preferencias-Tipografías y en vez de los
 valores que por defecto estaban en 10, puse 2, y ya se veía bien en el
 televisor (aunque las letras del menú de google-earth todavía estaban
 muy grandes). Luego cuando traté de utilizar la laptop normalmente,
 volví a cambiar todos los valores de las tipografías a 10(como estaban
 antes) e igual se ve todo gigantesco en la pantalla, y aunque retorne
 los valores a 2 como lo hice para que funcione en el televisor algunos
 menús son muy grandes, por ejemplo el de mi iceweasel(firefox), asi que
 no puedo ni navegar :'(. Ya revisé el xorg.conf y está igual que antes,
 es seguro que algo se desconfiguró pero no se donde..
 Heeelp!!..

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diabetico o insulino dependiente

2010-06-19 Thread paola sosa
Si eres Diabetico o Insulino Dependiente

Llamanos

Tratamiento para el control de la diabetes tipo 1 y 2
Uso: 4 meses y  en dosis de 2 cápsulas  en cada comida
el tratamiento Kit 4 es  de $1000 pesos su costo, ya incluye el envió.

 El neem funciona en pacientes diabéticos con altos niveles  de glucosa , lo 
que hace neem es normalizar al paciente diabético sin efectos secundarios 
adversos. ya que corrige el alta de glucosa, colesterol, ácido úrico a niveles 
normales. evitando así mas complicaciones y el uso de insulina. También 
previene al paciente del glaucoma, protege al organismo y la piel de 
infecciones de cualquier tipo, mejora la circulación general, ayuda a pacientes 
hipertensos. En la gran mayoría de los casos también se logra recuperar su 
vigor sexual.

 

Si todavía no utiliza insulina es preferible que tome el tratamiento Kit 4 de 
diabetes para pacientes con diabetes tipo 2. en dosis moderada .

 

Ya que en el  paquete van las instrucciones de uso y su dosis según los niveles 
que presente de glucosa. 

 

Todos los envíos a domicilio son prepagados en banco y la mensajería corre por 
nuestra cuenta ya que es más económica.

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Mouse Travando

2010-06-19 Thread Eduardo Santos Nascimento
Olá, pessoal!

Às vezes o mouse trava no debian 5. O que deve ser?


Re: iPod Nano - Ubuntu e Debian

2010-06-19 Thread Caio Abreu Ferreira
Prezado Leandro

Quando eu conecto o iPod Nano na máquina virtual Ubuntu e ativo 
o software rhythmobox consigo visualizar as músicas que estão no iPod e 
inclusive consigo adicionar e remover as músicas. Já no rhythmbox eu nem
consigo visualizar as músicas que estão gravadas. Os seguintes softwares
estão instalado tanto no ubuntu quanto no debian

ii  rhythmbox0.12.8-1+b1
ii  rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder  0.12.8-1+b1
ii  rhythmbox-plugins0.12.8-1+b1

Resultado do dmesg do Debian.

[85594.131744] usb 1-8: USB disconnect, address 5
[85598.984016] usb 1-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address
[85599.117304] usb 1-8: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1265
[85599.117309] usb 1-8: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
[85599.117313] usb 1-8: Product: iPod
[85599.117315] usb 1-8: Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
[85599.117318] usb 1-8: SerialNumber: 000A27001E96F20F
[85599.117429] usb 1-8: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
[85599.124201] scsi8 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[85599.124483] usb-storage: device found at 6
[85599.124486] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[85604.120128] usb-storage: device scan complete
[85604.122749] scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access Apple iPod 1.70 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[85604.125104] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[85604.125108] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 68 00 00 08
[85604.125111] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
[85604.127508] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] 1937856 4096-byte logical blocks: (7.93
GB/7.39 GiB)
[85604.128274] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
[85604.128279] sdc: sdc1
[85604.131355] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
[85604.131360] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
[85604.605057] FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems,
filesystem will be case sensitive!
[85605.180070] FAT: Filesystem error (dev sdc1)
[85605.180074] fat_free_clusters: deleting FAT entry beyond EOF
[85605.180078] File system has been set read-only

Resultado do dmesg do Ubuntu.

[  197.374324] usb-storage: device found at 3
[  197.374340] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[  202.375161] usb-storage: device scan complete
[  202.386849] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access AppleiPod 1.70 
PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[  202.401108] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[  202.413846] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 1937856 4096-byte logical blocks: (7.93 
GB/7.39 GiB)
[  202.417523] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[  202.417566] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 68 00 00 08
[  202.417616] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  202.428811] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 1937856 4096-byte logical blocks: (7.93 
GB/7.39 GiB)
[  202.434229] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  202.434416]  sdb: sdb1
[  202.460553] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 1937856 4096-byte logical blocks: (7.93 
GB/7.39 GiB)
[  202.463947] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  202.464072] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[  606.991765] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
[  618.588337] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[  618.984615] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
[  619.001584] scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[  619.006765] usb-storage: device found at 4
[  619.006768] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[  624.015654] usb-storage: device scan complete
[  624.020423] scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access AppleiPod 1.70 
PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[  624.025136] sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[  624.035920] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 1937856 4096-byte logical blocks: (7.93 
GB/7.39 GiB)
[  624.039665] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[  624.039675] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 68 00 00 08
[  624.039680] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  624.047812] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 1937856 4096-byte logical blocks: (7.93 
GB/7.39 GiB)
[  624.050698] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  624.050713]  sdb: sdb1
[  624.063199] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 1937856 4096-byte logical blocks: (7.93 
GB/7.39 GiB)
[  624.066119] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  624.066130] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[  624.642306] FAT: Filesystem error (dev sdb1)
[  624.642324] fat_free_clusters: deleting FAT entry beyond EOF
[  624.642384] File system has been set read-only

Alguém teria alguma idéia do que esta faltando?

On (17/06/10 17:04), Leandro Santoro wrote:
 Caio,
 
 veja se ele está formatado como HFS, se sim vc precisa ter os pacotes
 hfsutils, hfsplus e hfsprogs. Ai ele começa a montar em read-only apenas (pq
 a escrita em file systems hfsplus com jornaling ainda não é plenamenta
 suportada), mas vc pode utilizar a opção force na hora de montá-lo (por
 sua conta e risco).
 tipo isso 

Re: iPod Nano - Ubuntu e Debian

2010-06-19 Thread Caio Abreu Ferreira
Prezado Leandro

nenhum dos três pacotes indicados abaixo estão instalados no Ubuntu.

Caio Abreu Ferreira

On (17/06/10 17:04), Leandro Santoro wrote:
 Caio,
 
 veja se ele está formatado como HFS, se sim vc precisa ter os pacotes
 hfsutils, hfsplus e hfsprogs. Ai ele começa a montar em read-only apenas (pq
 a escrita em file systems hfsplus com jornaling ainda não é plenamenta
 suportada), mas vc pode utilizar a opção force na hora de montá-lo (por
 sua conta e risco).
 tipo isso #mount -t hfsplus /dev/seuipod /mnt/seuipod -o force
 
 Posta a saída do seu dmesg que dá para descobrir.
 
 Abr,
 Leandro Santoro.
 
 2010/6/15 Caio Abreu Ferreira i...@terra.com.br
 
 Lista
 
 Estou com problema para fazer o software Rhythmbox reconecer o iPod
  nano.
 
 Tenho instalado no meu computador a versão testing do Debian e
  possuo
  um iPod Nano, a última versão. Quando conecto o ipod no computador, o gnome
  reconhece como uma mídia de armazenamento removível. O software Rhythmbox
  reconhece o iPod, o problema é que o mesmo não esta reconecendo as músicas.
  Para fazer um teste instalei a última versão do Ubuntu em uma máquina
  virtual
  e para a minha surpresa o Rhythmbox do Ubuntu reconheceu o iPod e consegui
  ouvir as músicas e os podcast. Comecei a comparar os plug-ins que estavam
  ativos no ubuntu e no debian e verifiquei que estão iguais. Em relação aos
  pacotes gstreamer0.10 também estão iguais.
 
 Alguém por acaso teria alguma idéia de outros pacotes eu teria que
  instalar, como fazer uma comparação entre o ubuntu e o debian?


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Grub - unaligned pointer - Inicializador não carreg a

2010-06-19 Thread André Nunes
Ola,

Depois da penúltima atualização do grub-pc no debian sid meu grub não
carrega mais. Tudo o que aparece é:

Unaligned pointer 0x4c191bea - press any key

Pressionando uma tecla qualquer ele então diz:

No operation system found

Esse bug já foi relatado por outros aqui:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=586143

Mas a solução de usar o grub-install não funciona para mim.

Já abri novo bug report (
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=586449), mas estou
precisando recuperar meu sistema com urgência então gostaria de saber se
alguém nesta lista pode me dar alguma idéia de como fazê-lo.


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w32codecs

2010-06-19 Thread Carlos Alberto
Não encontro o w32codecs para lenny em nenhum repositorio, o que acontesse?

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Re: w32codecs

2010-06-19 Thread Adauto Serpa
Carlos,

Já verificou no repositório www.debian-multimedia.org ??

att.

Adauto Serpa

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 Não encontro o w32codecs para lenny em nenhum repositorio, o que acontesse?

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Re: Grub - unaligned pointer - Inic ializador não carrega

2010-06-19 Thread Flamarion Jorge
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On 19-06-2010 19:09, André Nunes wrote:
 Ola,
 
 Depois da penúltima atualização do grub-pc no debian sid meu grub não
 carrega mais. Tudo o que aparece é:
 
 Unaligned pointer 0x4c191bea - press any key
 
 Pressionando uma tecla qualquer ele então diz:
 
 No operation system found
 
 Esse bug já foi relatado por outros aqui:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=586143
 
 Mas a solução de usar o grub-install não funciona para mim.
 
 Já abri novo bug report
 (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=586449), mas estou
 precisando recuperar meu sistema com urgência então gostaria de saber se
 alguém nesta lista pode me dar alguma idéia de como fazê-lo.


NÃO SEI SE VAI FUNCIONAR, mas pode tentar assim:

Boota com o cd no modo rescue.

update-grup2
grub-install /dev/sdx

Se não der certo, boota novamente em modo rescue e tenta:

dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc e reconfigura o grub2.

Se não rolar, tenta editar o /etc/default/grub (de acordo com a
documentação) e reinstalar.

Na pior das hipóteses instala o lilo via apt, boota seu sistema,
reinstala o grub e ve se o problema persiste...

Como eu disse no início não sei se vai funcionar, são coisas que eu
tentaria no modo de recuperação.

No mais pode usar a criativiade, dar o boot no sistema você consegue sem
precisar do grub, isso eu tenho certeza.

E agora depois de escrever isso tudo eu li seu bug e vi que tentou
várias das coisas que eu escrevi hehehhe, mas para não perder o email
por completo... dá um confere no  /boot/grub/device.map e ve se está
tudo de acordo.

Quando atualizei meu sid houve uma atualização que dizia respeito a
identificação dos dispositivos e que modificaram meu fstab e meu
device.map (eu acho) e que me deu um pouco de dor de cabeça também.

O que eu fiz foi acertar o device.map, update-grub2 e grub-install
/dev/sdxxx

boa sorte

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tvbrasil no debian

2010-06-19 Thread Carlos Alberto
Pessoal,
alguem consegue assistir a tv brasil no linux, o que faço?

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Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
I can't believe I'm still totally unable to figure out what is going
on here. Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 was unable to handle downloading
torrents. The connection would drop. I tried every torrent client. I
tried lowering the connections. Nothing I tried worked. I ended up
downgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 (then called Remix)  putting 10.04 UNE
on a small (now unused) partition. Strange thing is, while MS Windows
has a limit of 10 1/2 open connections (whatever that actually means)
that can explain why Windows XP has no problems, Ubuntu Netbook 9.10
does not have these limits  torrents work fine! After getting nowhere
with advice, someone suggested Debian stable. I knew Ubuntu was based
on Debian, but had never heard the term stable/unstable. Once I
learned about Debian stable I figured was right up my alley.
Unstable sounds like trouble! After working out all the details of
Debian Lenny on my Acer Aspire One, I'm back to having the same
problem: with Transmission running, at some point, minutes, hours,
I'll loose my internet connection. I just received from a friend an
older desktop. I planned on installing Linux  running torrents off
it. Now I'm back to wondering why I'm not just putting a clean Windows
XP install  being done with it. A computer is a tool after all, not a
love affair. It's like Linux is this VAST toolbox with all these free
tools... except one of the tools I need everyday is broken, un-usable.
I WANT to love Linux... it runs great on my netbook. I have this
feeling Linux could turn out to be important one day  knowing how
to make it work could be a great benefit. As much as I never liked DOS
 don't care for terminal, I could see why learning the terminal could
be a real benefit. But I can't seem to make Linux do something I've
been doing for years with MS XP, easily. I'm sure it's something I'm
not understanding, but I've really done a lot of reading on the net 
I still don't have an answer. It would seem for the 1st time in my
life, I've reached a point were I can't figure something out. Here is
what I've tried:

-Lowered upload speed below 50% of total upload capacity (fail).
-Lowered the number of peers, both overall  per torrent, even 6 (fail).
-Confirmed /etc/resolv.conf is pointing to my ISP, not the router.
-Tried different bit torrent clients
-Debian stable (fail) UNE 10.04 (fail) UNR 9.10 (works) MS XP (works)
-Updated firmware
-Downloading only
-Uploading only

Equipment: WRT54G, Acer Aspire One


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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Nuno Magalhães
1. Try to use the enter key more often.
2. I don't give a rat's ass whether you use GNU/Linux or not.
3. Maybe your hardware is faulty? Do you know what hardware you're
using (nic please)?
4. My heart's not gonna skip a beat if you go back to Windows™.
5. Have you tried tunning your torrent software? Try different
software? mlnet never gave me trouble and it's on 24/7

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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 Send me the torrent and I'll try it out.

I've tried over 20 torrents, they all do the same thing. Thank for
thinking of that though.


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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:02 PM, ABS Doug absd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't believe I'm still totally unable to figure out what is going
 on here.


[snippity snip snip snippin' lots 'o text]

The reality is, you've put in a lot of work and are frustrated.
Understood.  But, this is not the Rants and Raves section of Craigs List,
so keep that in mind.. Nuno mentioned looking at your hardware, and it's
possible the drivers are different in the Ubuntu/XP/Debian platforms that's
causing the dropout.  Is it only with torrents, or is it all downloads?
What if you download a dvd .iso file via jigdo or Iceweasel, does it drop
out there?  Have you checked what drivers and versions are in the differnet
OS's you are using for your ethernet connection, to see if that's the issue?

FWIW, while I would like to run 100% Linux 100% of the time, I am typing
this from within Windows because Netflix's online streaming isn't compatible
with Lenny, even with Moonlight installed, and I just finished watching a
movie on-line.  So, I boot to Windows when I want to watch Netflix.  My
point is, sometimes you adapt and move on if the round peg won't fit in the
square hole.


Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Eero Volotinen
 Equipment: WRT54G, Acer Aspire One

I think your torrent client is killing the router. (filling nat tables
and eating cpu). You should buy more powerful router..

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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fiwrote:

  Equipment: WRT54G, Acer Aspire One

 I think your torrent client is killing the router. (filling nat tables
 and eating cpu). You should buy more powerful router..


Um, no.  I have the identical router and have never had problems with
torrents.


Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Allums

On 6/19/2010 1:02 AM, ABS Doug wrote:

[snip rant]

Torrents are trouble.  Avoid them, if practical.  Your ISP may be 
throttling them, although I can't see what difference the version of 
Ubuntu would make.


However, if a Windows client works, then ask yourself if you need Linux 
for other things, or whether Windows will suit your needs.  (I have two 
machines at home, one with Win, one with Debian Squeeze (testing).  The 
Win machine is set up for those rare times when Debian isn't right for 
the job.)


I think you may not be sure about what we mean by stable/unstable.  The 
Stable distribution is suitable for most needs, but may not be the most 
up-to-date.  Unstable is the place where new programs, or new versions 
of programs, enter the Debian world.  In between is Testing, where 
things reside after they've had some use and are appearing to be 
stable (by your meaning).  The Testing distribution is destined to 
become the new Stable in the fullness of time.  Squeeze is the code name 
for the current Testing.  Sid is the perpetual code name for Unstable.






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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 19. 06. 2010 08:15:01 je Nuno Magalhães napisal(a):

mlnet never gave me trouble and it's on 24/7


I'll second that. The only drawback is, mlnet doesn't implement the  
upload/download ratio required by certain torrents/trackers, so you  
appear to them not to be uploading at all; eventually, they'll shut you  
off as a leecher.


In addition, the multimedia moguls just can't stand the bittorrent  
protocol and will do anything to undermine it. I suspect that's why the  
Internet is swarming with malformed torrents and fake trackers aimed at  
destabilizing torrent clients. Just try downloading a Debian ISO  
torrent (even 100 instances in parallel if you can afford the  
bandwidth): I'll bet your connection won't choke anymore... ;P


Just my 2¢.

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Re: [OT] First computer

2010-06-19 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 19. 06. 2010 06:32:04 je Gerald napisal(a):
Those were the days when men were men and systems were built by  
men.!

Gerald



Yep. As opposed to the Internet Age, in which not only men are men, but  
most of the women are men as well, while little girls are actually FBI  
agents ...


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Re: [OT] First computer (was Re: LVM)

2010-06-19 Thread Miles Fidelman

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 06/19/2010 12:00 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 06/18/2010 11:05 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Right after that, started hacking on MIT's PDP-1 (of Tech Model 
Railroad

Club and Spacewar fame, but at that point free-standing). The really
neat thing about the machine was that hackers were allowed, even
encouraged, to make HARDWARE changes (e.g., wire-wrapping new
instruction codes into the thing). Lots of fun.


That sure plays hell on binary compatibility...

Hmmm... isn't compatability why we have compilers? :-)



But if the opcodes constantly change, you need to modify your compiler 
every time someone makes a h/w change.  And you're screwed if someone 
replaces the opcode your spiffy program replies on.
Well yeah... but we tried very hard to only add new instructions, not 
change ones once created.  As I recall, there was a family of extended 
op codes where all the new instructions went.



Call me old fashioned, but I prefer true high level languages. If you
want serious compatability, use Common Lisp :-)



Nah, COBOL is where it's at for compatibility.


You're probably right.

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Re: [OT] First computer

2010-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/19/2010 03:35 AM, Klistvud wrote:

Dne, 19. 06. 2010 06:32:04 je Gerald napisal(a):

Those were the days when men were men and systems were built by men.!
Gerald



Yep. As opposed to the Internet Age, in which not only men are men, but
most of the women are men as well, while little girls are actually FBI
agents ...



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Corrupted display with ATI 10.6 drivers

2010-06-19 Thread Matteo Riva
I installed ATI proprietary drivers version 10.6 and, while I can get
the system to work, it becomes corrupted quickly.

Example of corruption: while cycling through Iceweasel's open tabs,
parts of them become all black, or white, elements disapper and reappear
when mouseovered, etc.

I'm using the xorg.conf created by aticonfig --initial
xorg version 1.7.5+6

Any particular option I can use to fix this problem?

Thanks.


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logrotate

2010-06-19 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi,

I have set ionice -c3 for logrotate application,what happens when the other
program which has asked for disk IO during this period ?

Thanks

Kaushal


Re: [OT] First computer

2010-06-19 Thread John Hasler
I wrote:
 Go out and run a mile or so.

Andrew Sackville-West writes:
 that'll *really* make him feel old!

Odd.  It has the opposite effect on me.
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Pre-Install Question

2010-06-19 Thread Timothy Schader
Please tell me what the differences are between all the DVD downloads at the
following link. What is contained on each disk/iso?

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/iso-dvd/

Thanks!
Tim


Re: [OT] First computer

2010-06-19 Thread John Hasler
Miles Fidelman writes:
 It continually amazes me that the [Z80 is] still in production and
 widespread use.

I've got a pile of them upstairs.  If I had an EPROM eraser (a
programmer is easy to build) I'd use them instead of Atmel chips.

 It could well be the most popular chip ever made for embedded
 applications.

That would be the Intel MCS48 family and/or the 8051.  The latter is
still in production as an ASIC core.
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Re: Pre-Install Question

2010-06-19 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/6/19 Timothy Schader tscha...@gmail.com:
 Please tell me what the differences are between all the DVD downloads at the
 following link. What is contained on each disk/iso?
 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/iso-dvd/

Well, they contains all Debian software. Mainly you just need first
one, if you can access (fast) internet.

It's a bit hard to list contains of all DVDs.

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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Håkon Alstadheim

Den 19. juni 2010 09:38, skrev Mark:
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Eero Volotinen 
eero.voloti...@iki.fi mailto:eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote:


 Equipment: WRT54G, Acer Aspire One

I think your torrent client is killing the router. (filling nat tables
and eating cpu). You should buy more powerful router..


Um, no.  I have the identical router and have never had problems with 
torrents.


The router config can make a difference. Switch off firewall etc in the 
router, especially statefull rules. Turn off NAT. That will save a LOT 
of memory in the router.




Re: [OT] First computer

2010-06-19 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 19 Jun 07:10 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 Miles Fidelman writes:
  It continually amazes me that the [Z80 is] still in production and
  widespread use.
 
 I've got a pile of them upstairs.  If I had an EPROM eraser (a
 programmer is easy to build) I'd use them instead of Atmel chips.

Needham's Electronics used to offer them, assuming they're still in
business.  I have one laying around here someplace should I ever need to
burn an EPROM for an amatuer radio application.

As for the first computer, I guess I was a Johnny Come Lately with my
TRS-80 Color Computer 2 with 16k Extended Color BASIC in late 1983.
Over time I upgraded it to 64k, added a 5.25 floppy disk drive, and a
dot matrix printer.  I used it for packet radio for about two years as
well as composing the local radio club's newsletter until I got a PX ZT
clone in 1989 with TWO floppy drives and 640k of memory!

Unfortunately, for most of that time I had a black an white TV hooked to
it.  :-/  I no longer have the machine as I gave it to a friend a number
of years back.  Unfortunately, he passed away a few years ago and it
probably found its way to a dump in Oklahoma.  :-(

- Nate 

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Re: Pre-Install Question

2010-06-19 Thread Huang, Tao
look for the listing in the mirror directory hierarchy.
go up one level and you'll find

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/list-dvd/

btw, the first disc contains the installer and the most frequently
used packages.

Do not post to multiple mailing list.
and this question is totally irrelevant to debian-project.


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On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Timothy Schader tscha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please tell me what the differences are between all the DVD downloads at the
 following link. What is contained on each disk/iso?
 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/iso-dvd/

 Thanks!
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Re: Pre-Install Question

2010-06-19 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 19. 06. 2010 14:13:51 je Eero Volotinen napisal(a):


Well, they contains all Debian software. Mainly you just need first
one, if you can access (fast) internet.

It's a bit hard to list contains of all DVDs.


I'll second that. There are roughly about 25 *thousand* packages in  
Debian, so it's more practical to search them by name on the Debian  
site than it is to list them in extenso. Anyhow, as already said, you  
just need the first DVD in order to install a pretty complete Debian  
system, with Gnome desktop and all. If you happen to need any exotic  
packages (such as, say, ndiswrapper, or some wireless firmware, or the  
like), and do have a working Internet connection, the installer will  
download them for you on-the-fly. If you don't have a working Internet  
connection, you'll have to download such packages beforehand, from the  
Debian site (search 'package name'). It's advisable to provide a  
working Internet connection to the Debian Installer if at all possible,  
though. It makes things *so* much easier...


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How to tune display position on external VGA display

2010-06-19 Thread Matteo Riva
I'm using a laptop which I connect to a plasma TV through a VGA
connection.  I can get the display on the plasma to work at the correct
resolution (1360x768) but the image is shifted on the left so that part
of it is hidden and I have a black bar on the right.

My card is a Radeon Mobility 3430. With the ATI proprietary drivers
(which I cannot use now due to display corruption with the latest
version) I can tweak settings with ATI control panel, but now I'm using
the radeon driver and I don't know what I can use to move the display. I
tried xvidtune but all I get is

Unable to query monitor info

Thanks


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Re: [OT] First computer

2010-06-19 Thread John Hasler
I wrote:
 I've got a pile of them upstairs.  If I had an EPROM eraser (a
 programmer is easy to build) I'd use them instead of Atmel chips.

Nate Bargmann writes:
 Needham's Electronics used to offer them, assuming they're still in
 business.

Oh, I know I could _buy_ one.  However, while I have piles of
microprocessors and EPROMs upstairs, I have yet to locate the piles of
money.  Everything I build must use only scrap and junk.  Fortunately, I
have an adequate supply.
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Re: Pre-Install Question

2010-06-19 Thread Alan Chandler

On 19/06/10 12:52, Timothy Schader wrote:

Please tell me what the differences are between all the DVD downloads at
the following link. What is contained on each disk/iso?

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/iso-dvd/

Thanks!
Tim


As others have implied, but not implicitely said, Debian comes with lots 
of packages, so the DVD or CD sets contain all of them.


In order to do a basic install you normally just need the first CD of 
the set (or first DVD - just as a bit more included).


If you have an internet connection, you don't even need the full CD, and 
that is where the Netinst or Business Card CD's come in.  They get 
started enough to connect to the internet and the rest of the stuff 
needed is downloaded.


Once your system is up and running (and connected to the internet) you 
add and remove packages on the fly from repositories on mirrors around 
the world.


So you only need the remaining CDs or DVDs if you are not, and never 
will be, connected to the internet.


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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Håkon Alstadheim
ha...@alstadheim.priv.nowrote:

  Den 19. juni 2010 09:38, skrev Mark:

 On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fiwrote:

  Equipment: WRT54G, Acer Aspire One

  I think your torrent client is killing the router. (filling nat tables
 and eating cpu). You should buy more powerful router..


 Um, no.  I have the identical router and have never had problems with
 torrents.


 The router config can make a difference. Switch off firewall etc in the
 router, especially statefull rules. Turn off NAT. That will save a LOT of
 memory in the router.


This doesn't make ANY sense because the OP stated he downloads torrents fine
in Windows and Ubuntu 9.04 on the same machine.  Why tell him to waste time
on something that isn't the problem?


Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Zoran Kolic
 Torrents are trouble.  Avoid them, if practical.  Your ISP may be 
 throttling them, although I can't see what difference the version of 
 Ubuntu would make.
 However, if a Windows client works, then ask yourself if you need Linux 
 for other things, or whether Windows will suit your needs.  (I have two 
 machines at home, one with Win, one with Debian Squeeze (testing).  The 
 Win machine is set up for those rare times when Debian isn't right for 
 the job.)

Huh! It is much easier when one makes proper visualisation
of the protocols involved into the task. Peer2peer is not the
devil, but the way to do things. I cannot imagine downloading
debian dvd in one act. What if the line drops?
Seriously, original poster failed to show details. Lenny is
rock stable and there is no way to freeze it other than clogging
i/o. For downloading torrents, isp makes bandwidth rules. Also
for uploading. On some spots on mother earth it is not ligit
to run server aside ones paid to the same isp. Since the port on
which torrent app communicates lives in high range, I doubt
it is the problem. My conclusion would be: some time has to
be spent to learn ins and outs of debian first. Next, to learn
how torrent works, including reading rfc or whatever similar.
Last, choose the application people use and help on forums or
irc channel.
Best reagards

   Zoran


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Re: UUID in fstab? - Gave Up

2010-06-19 Thread Thomas H. George
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 01:15:48PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
 I edited fstab and replaced /dev/sda1 with UUID=507caf8f-f9cd... (i.e.
 an hell of a long string I obtained from blkid /dev/sda1) leaving the
 rest of the line unchanged as /bkups  ext3  rw,user,noauto  0  2
 
 Next I rebooted the system, mounted /bkups (no problem) and entered the
 command df -h.  The ususal list of partitions were listed and /bkups
 still appeared as the mount point for /dev/sda1.
 
 I take it that everything is working ok and if I were to reconnect the
 sata drives in a different order the designation /dev/sda1 might change
 to something else but mounting /bkups would always access the same
 partition?
 
 I raise this question because I am having trouble installing linux-base
 and linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64.  The installation of linux-base asked to
 change fstab entries to UUID identifiers and I told it to do so.  Later
 in the process the installion failed with the message:
 
 
 Writing extended state information...
 Setting up linux-base (2.6.32-15) ...
 Logical sector size (15624 bytes) is not a multiple of the physical sector 
 size.
 dosfslabel failed: 256 at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-base.postinst line 1059, 
 STDIN line 10.
 dpkg: error processing linux-base (--configure):
  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 9
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64:
  linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 depends on linux-base (= 2.6.32-15); however:
   Package linux-base is not configured yet.
 dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 (--configure):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  linux-base
  linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
 
 and, as the installation failed, fstab was unchanged.  Since the
 dosfslabel failed I thought to change the fstab file to use UUID's
 before trying to reinstall linux-base.  
 
 Note: I have run dosfsck on the one vfat partition and fskck on the ext3
 partitions and the checks found no errors on any of the partitions.
 
 I would appreciate any comments or suggestions regarding this problem

I deleted the vfat partition and created a new ext2 partition in its
place.  Ran e2fsck on all of my partitions.  The result was clean in
every case.  Tried to install linux-base and the installation failed
with the same dosfslabel message.  Filed bug report.

My problems actually started a couple of days ago when I ran a
dist-upgrade.  In addition to the failure to install linux-base
something in the upgrade locked the resolution of X windows at 640x480.
The internet became almost unuseable as only a fraction of the window
fit in the display.  Some months ago we were told xorg.conf was no
longer needed.  Fortunately I had saved a copy so I put an old
version of xorg.conf in /etc/X11.  Result: display is back to high
resolution, better in fact than it was without xorg.conf before the
dist-upgrade forced the display resolution to 640x480. Conclusion: stick
with linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64 until problems goes away.
 
 Tom
 
 
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Rfkill not fully working on Dell Mini 1012

2010-06-19 Thread Jack Malmostoso
Hello List,

I had a morning of terror with my Debian Sid on my new Dell Mini (v. 
1012). The laptop has a broadcom 4312 Wifi card that works with the 
module b43. I had to find the right combination of firmware and fwcutter 
to make it work reliably, but that's another story. I am running 2.6.34 
from experimental.

The multimedia keys on the keyboard work nicely: when I pressed the 
antenna button (F2) the Wifi was switched off. Running

# rfkill list

showed that Soft and Hard block were ON.
However, pressing the button again didn't do anything, and running:

# rfkill unblock all

only changed the soft block. Since that is the only hardware button 
available, and I have no Windows installed on the machine, I did the next 
best thing and ran a liveUSB with Ubuntu.
There I loaded first the b43 module, and the wifi connection was 
unavailable. Then I loaded the proprietary STA module and that worked, 
effectively unblocking the card.
Rebooting in Debian showed the card unlocked, and I could use the laptop 
normally.

I would like to file a bug against this behaviour, but I am confused as 
on whose fault is it: is it b43 (so file against the kernel), is it the 
firmware (so don't file), or is it hal?

Thanks for any advice and sorry for the long message.

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Re: How to tune display position on external VGA display

2010-06-19 Thread Wackojacko

On 19/06/10 14:31, Matteo Riva wrote:

I'm using a laptop which I connect to a plasma TV through a VGA
connection.  I can get the display on the plasma to work at the correct
resolution (1360x768) but the image is shifted on the left so that part
of it is hidden and I have a black bar on the right.

My card is a Radeon Mobility 3430. With the ATI proprietary drivers
(which I cannot use now due to display corruption with the latest
version) I can tweak settings with ATI control panel, but now I'm using
the radeon driver and I don't know what I can use to move the display. I
tried xvidtune but all I get is

 Unable to query monitor info

Thanks


Try this website 
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Working_with_Modelines#Getting_rid_of_overscan_and_centering_the_image 
it was a lot of help recently in creating a custom modeline for my 
Panasonic Plasma.


HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: debian architecture history question

2010-06-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 11 iun 10, 11:09:18, Aaron Toponce wrote:
 
 Other than the kernel, which is compiled for 686 instruction sets, and
 maybe a few core packages that would benefit from targeting the 686
 architecture, Debian compiles the rest of the packages against 386.

AFAIR support for 386 was dropped a while ago and all packages are now 
compiled for 486. There was even some announcement, but can't find it 
now...

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fp10.amd64.pgp.asc.INSECURE?

2010-06-19 Thread Jozsi Avadkan
# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
...
wget failed to download
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.amd64.pgp.asc
Try again later with update-flashplugin-nonfree --install.




Under Debian Lenny.

Why?


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Re: fp10.amd64.pgp.asc.INSECURE?

2010-06-19 Thread Erwan David
Le Sat 19/06/2010, Jozsi Avadkan disait
 # apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
 ...
 wget failed to download
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.amd64.pgp.asc
 Try again later with update-flashplugin-nonfree --install.
 
 
 
 
 Under Debian Lenny.
 
 Why?
 

are you sure your root users has his proxy correctly set ?


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Re: [ubuntu-bo] Desconfiguración al conectrar lapto p a la tele :S

2010-06-19 Thread Tn 4dm1n
una cosa tienes que tener en cuenta que para que lso menus se acomoden a la
resolucion del pantalla de 32 de pulgadas tienes que incrementar el tamaño

tu laptop debe ser de 17 o 19 pulgadas no?

para 17 o 19 pulgadas va perfecto 1280x768  pero para un monitor de 32
tienes que aumetnar proporcionalmente el tamaño

a por ejemplo
un
2560 X 1536
algo parecido
tendrias que aumentar la resolucion de la pantalla a una mayor
en este caso no se si exista la posibilidad de usar 2 configuraciones
distintas por pantalla


El 17 de junio de 2010 12:51, Jhonatan jh...@jhtan.com escribió:

 HOla listas.
 Generalmente no escribo para solucionar mis problemas, pero ahora si que
 me paso algo que no entiendo y me gustaría que me dieran una manito si
 han tenido una experiencia como la mía..., bueno..
 Tengo una laptop HP 550 con resolución de 1280x768 con Debian Lenny 5.04
 y la conecté con un cable vga(los que se usan para los data shows) a un
 televisor Sony pantalla plana de 32 pulgadas... la resolución se acomodó
 bastante bien, pero las letras de los menús, iconos y todo eran
 gigantes, así que fui a
 Sistema-Administración-Preferencias-Tipografías y en vez de los
 valores que por defecto estaban en 10, puse 2, y ya se veía bien en el
 televisor (aunque las letras del menú de google-earth todavía estaban
 muy grandes). Luego cuando traté de utilizar la laptop normalmente,
 volví a cambiar todos los valores de las tipografías a 10(como estaban
 antes) e igual se ve todo gigantesco en la pantalla, y aunque retorne
 los valores a 2 como lo hice para que funcione en el televisor algunos
 menús son muy grandes, por ejemplo el de mi iceweasel(firefox), asi que
 no puedo ni navegar :'(. Ya revisé el xorg.conf y está igual que antes,
 es seguro que algo se desconfiguró pero no se donde..
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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Tim Clewlow
 at some point, minutes, hours,
 I'll loose my internet connection.
.

What do you have to do to get the connection back? Restart
networking on the torrent client computer, or, restart the
modem/router, or perhaps you have a separate firewall that requires
a (networking) restart. The answer to this question will help
determine where the problem is.

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Re: fp10.amd64.pgp.asc.INSECURE?

2010-06-19 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 07:20:16PM +0200, Jozsi Avadkan wrote:
 # apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
 ...
 wget failed to download
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.amd64.pgp.asc
 Try again later with update-flashplugin-nonfree --install.
 
 
 
 
 Under Debian Lenny.
 
 Why?

Because Adobe doesn't provide the 64bit beta plugin anymore.
unstable got a new flashplugin-nonfree upload recently to warn you but
I'm not sure if it already got uploaded to backports.org aswell.
See also http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer#Troubleshooting

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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Robert S wrote:
I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the 
entire system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor 
(so Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually 
bails out before it completes the backup.


And what does mondoarchive.log say?



mondoarchive gets up to here then nothing happens (for several hours):

---evalcall---E---
---evalcall---1---  Dividing filelist into sets
---evalcall---2--- TASK:  []  97% done;  0:01 to go
---evalcall---E---
---evalcall---1---  Dividing filelist into sets
---evalcall---2--- TASK:  []  98% done;  0:01 to go
---evalcall---E---
Your backup will occupy one mellion media! (maybe 10)
Done.
Copying Mondo's core files to the scratch directory
Done.
Calling MINDI to create boot+data disks
Your boot loader is GRUB and it boots from /dev/sda
/var/tmp/mondo-temp/tmp.mondo.9418/tmp.mondo.8981

The log gets this far then nothing happens:

# tail /var/log/mondo-archive.log
You are using Mindi-Linux v2.2.0-r881 to make boot+data disks
Analyzing dependency requirements   Done.
Making complete dependency list 100%|cp: 
cannot stat `/usr/games/petris': No such file or directory

Cannot find /usr/games/petris. You will not
be able to play petris during restore.
Done.
Analyzing your keyboard's configuration.

Adding the following keyboard mapping tables:   Done.
Dropping i686-optimized libraries if appropriate.

I am running mondoarchive with the following options:

mondoarchive -OiF -k /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 -d /var/tmp/mondoarchive -S 
/var/tmp/mondo-scratch -T /var/tmp/mondo-temp -E /home /mnt /root/packages 
/var/cache/apt/archives


I get the same result when I run it without the -k option 



I don't know what version that is: I run Mindi v2.0.7.2-r2575 and Mondo 
Archive v2.2.9.3-r2622.

If I were in your situation I would download the latest from upstream:
http://mondorescue.muskokamug.org/debian/5.0/
because Debian is backleveled, do it again, and then save my 
mondoarchive + mindi logs in their entirety and post the error and the 
logs on the mondo forum where the response is excellent:

mondo-de...@lists.sourceforge.net
and also post what you posted here: your calling parameters, and see 
what Bruno Cornec says, he is the lead developer and on top of things.


Hugo





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Re: Enigmail: why couldn't I sign an HTML message?

2010-06-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 13 iun 10, 16:31:01, Camaleón wrote:

 Unfortunately PGP/MIME is not supported by all mailclients; those that 
 currently are compatible with it are Enigmail, Apple Mail, Becky, 
 Evolution, KMail, Mulberry, Sylpheed, and The Bat!.

You missed Claws-Mail and, of course, mutt ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-bo] Desconfiguración al conectrar lapto p a la tele :S

2010-06-19 Thread Huang, Tao
When you use the Reply to all button in Gmail, check the addresses
before hitting Send


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2010/6/20 Tn 4dm1n tuad...@gmail.com:
 una cosa tienes que tener en cuenta que para que lso menus se acomoden a la
 resolucion del pantalla de 32 de pulgadas tienes que incrementar el tamaño

 tu laptop debe ser de 17 o 19 pulgadas no?

 para 17 o 19 pulgadas va perfecto 1280x768  pero para un monitor de 32
 tienes que aumetnar proporcionalmente el tamaño

 a por ejemplo
 un
 2560 X 1536
 algo parecido
 tendrias que aumentar la resolucion de la pantalla a una mayor
 en este caso no se si exista la posibilidad de usar 2 configuraciones
 distintas por pantalla



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Re: Enigmail: why couldn't I sign an HTML message?

2010-06-19 Thread Erwan David
On 19/06/10 20:24, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Du, 13 iun 10, 16:31:01, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Unfortunately PGP/MIME is not supported by all mailclients; those that 
 currently are compatible with it are Enigmail, Apple Mail, Becky, 
 Evolution, KMail, Mulberry, Sylpheed, and The Bat!.
 
 You missed Claws-Mail and, of course, mutt ;)
 
 Regards,
 Andrei

Outlook with gpgOL should work however I have many problems with the
windows port of kleopatra which is used by this distribution.


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mdadm doing strange things

2010-06-19 Thread Alan Chandler


I have a server with a pair of raided (RAID1) disks using partition 1,2 
and 4 as /boot root and and and lvm volume respectively.  The two disks 
are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.  They have just replaced two smaller disks 
where the root partiton was NOT a raid device - it was just /dev/sda2 
although there was a raided boot partition in the first partition. 
Hardware only supports 2 sata channels.


I wanted to revert to root partition to the same state as one I just 
took out, so I failed and removed sdb


mdadm /dev/md0 --fail /dev/sdb1 --remove /dev/sdb1
mdadm /dev/md1 --fail /dev/sdb2 --remove /dev/sdb2
mdadm /dev/md2 --fail /dev/sdb4 --remove /dev/sdb4

for each of the partitions, and shut the machine down.

I unplugged /dev/sdb and plugged in the old disk in its place and booted 
up knoppix.


I asked knoppix to recreate the md devices

mdadm --assemble --scan

and it found 4 raid devices.  The three on sda and the one (from the old 
sda, now on sdb).


So I mounted /dev/md1 and /dev/sdb2 and reverted the root partition.

I shut the machine down again.  I now removed the old disk and plugged 
back in the new /dev/sdb that I had failed and removed in the first step.


HOWEVER (the punch line).  When this system booted, it was not the old 
reverted one but how it was before I started this cycle. In other words 
it looked as though the disk which I had failed and removed was being used


If I did mdadm --detail /dev/md1 (or any of the other devices) it shows 
/dev/sdb as the only device on the raid pair.  To sync up again I am 
having to add in the various /dev/sda partitions.


SO THE QUESTION IS.  What went wrong.  How does a failed device end up 
being used to build the operational arrays, and the other devices end up 
not being included.



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Re: Enigmail: why couldn't I sign an HTML message?

2010-06-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:24:27 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

 On Du, 13 iun 10, 16:31:01, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Unfortunately PGP/MIME is not supported by all mailclients; those that
 currently are compatible with it are Enigmail, Apple Mail, Becky,
 Evolution, KMail, Mulberry, Sylpheed, and The Bat!.
 
 You missed Claws-Mail and, of course, mutt ;)

Me not :-)

That was a statement written in the documentation, I just only copied/
pasted.

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Re: Debian Community Poll

2010-06-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 14 iun 10, 09:52:32, Ron Johnson wrote:
 A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:
 
 Debian Community Poll
 -
 
 After getting the idea during the recent Mini Debian Conference [8] in
 Berlin, Torsten Werner prepared [9] a poll for users of the Debian
 Operating System [10] asking different types of questions like the usage
 of derivatives, about the Debian Free Software Guidelines [11] and
 firmwares and of course releases.
 
8 : http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Miniconf-LT-Berlin/2010
9 : http://twerner.blogspot.com/2010/06/debian-community-poll.html
10 : http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska
11 : http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
 
 The Poll is available at http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska [12]. Torsten
 asks to
 spread the link to as many users as possible.
 
12 : http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska

The poll is closed now. Thanks to all participants! :(

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Re: Debian Community Poll

2010-06-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 09:51:56PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Lu, 14 iun 10, 09:52:32, Ron Johnson wrote:
  A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:
  
  Debian Community Poll
  -
[...]
  
 12 : http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska
 
 The poll is closed now. Thanks to all participants! :(

I'm interested inthe results, and how many responses there were.

A


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Re: Debian Community Poll

2010-06-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-06-19 21:01 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 09:51:56PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Lu, 14 iun 10, 09:52:32, Ron Johnson wrote:
  A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:
  
  Debian Community Poll
  -
 [...]
  
 12 : http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska
 
 The poll is closed now. Thanks to all participants! :(

 I'm interested inthe results, and how many responses there were.

http://twerner.blogspot.com/2010/06/results-from-debian-community-poll.html

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Re: Debian Community Poll

2010-06-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 09:06:32PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2010-06-19 21:01 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
  On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 09:51:56PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  On Lu, 14 iun 10, 09:52:32, Ron Johnson wrote:
   A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:
   
   Debian Community Poll
   -
[...]
  I'm interested inthe results, and how many responses there were.
 
 http://twerner.blogspot.com/2010/06/results-from-debian-community-poll.html

thanks!

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Re: Triple boot with MS XP

2010-06-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 15 iun 10, 21:13:11, ABSDoug wrote:
 If this isn't on topic, sorry ahead of time  perhaps you can point me in the 
 right place?
 
 I've been reading up on having a separate partition for your /home 
 files. For quite some time, I've been using a ntfs partition named 
 storage as it makes re-install or fresh install of OS much easier. 

Yep.

 While it's WAY neat that two different distros of Linux can share 
 the /home partition, I still need MS at times. I figure I can't be the 
 only one, but after looking on the net, I couldn't decide the best 
 way. I could use Linux to pull files off of the MS XP ntfs partition 
 easy enough, but it seems cheesy. All the options to allow XP to see 
 the Linux partition have permission issues as well as hidden 
 extensions that can't be hidden. Dangerous trumps cheesy. It would 
 seem grabbing what I need in XP partition from within Linux is the 
 answer... is there something I've overlooked? I'm gunna get into 
 virtualization at some point, but I'm just not ready to nuke XP, there 
 are times it's the only thing I can get to work (like my Netbook 
 internal 3G)

If this is a single-user system it should be enough to have all the 
shared data on the NTFS partition and have a line like this in fstab:

LABEL=storage  /home/abs/storage ntfs-3g
uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=113,dmask=002,users 0

(labels are safer than device names and I assumed abs is your username)

The uid= and gid= parameters should match your uid and gid. Use 'id' to 
find them out (most probably 1000). Also make sure you install the 
package ntfs-3g. For the other parameters see 'man mount'.

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Re: gettext upgrade woes

2010-06-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 17 iun 10, 15:32:57, Danny wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I am currently on Debian 5.04 and need to upgrade gettext from the current 
 version
 to a newer one (im trying to upgrade DR17, and I get gettext errors).
 
 When I install gettext I get a LOT of dependency errors. Is there a way I can
 get gettext and the needed dependencies in one go?

Exactly how are you trying to upgrade gettext?

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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 19 iun 10, 02:02:17, ABS Doug wrote:

[problems with torrents]

If you're on wireless try a wired connection for a while.

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Re: Debian Community Poll

2010-06-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 19 iun 10, 12:13:11, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 09:06:32PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
  On 2010-06-19 21:01 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 [...]
   I'm interested inthe results, and how many responses there were.
  
  http://twerner.blogspot.com/2010/06/results-from-debian-community-poll.html
 
 thanks!
 
 A

I'm guessing you are the one with the automatic bar tender ;)

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Downgraded Flash Non-Free 32 to Backports

2010-06-19 Thread Freeman
Flashpluggin non-free became very choppy on my 32 bit squeeze install with
an old Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000].  Nothing played smoothly.

It started near-about the recent xserver upgrades: xserver-xorg-core,
xserver-common, xserver-xorg-video-ati, xserver-xorg-video-radeon, mesa
utils. My version of flashpluggin dated back to September, '09.

Upgrading firmware-linux to experimental did not work.

Downgrading flashpluggin non-free to 2.8.0 did not work.

Downgrading to flash to 2.5~bpo50+1, on a lark, did work. But that seems 
temporary at
best.

Is there some possible fix, something else in development or is flash simply
going to be bad solution for old radeons?

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Re: Enigmail: why couldn't I sign an HTML message?

2010-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/19/2010 01:27 PM, Erwan David wrote:

On 19/06/10 20:24, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Du, 13 iun 10, 16:31:01, Camaleón wrote:


Unfortunately PGP/MIME is not supported by all mailclients; those that
currently are compatible with it are Enigmail, Apple Mail, Becky,
Evolution, KMail, Mulberry, Sylpheed, and The Bat!.


You missed Claws-Mail and, of course, mutt ;)

Regards,
Andrei


Outlook with gpgOL should work however I have many problems with the
windows port of kleopatra which is used by this distribution.



We forgive you for mentioning Outlook.  Don't let it happen again, 
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Re: mdadm doing strange things

2010-06-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Alan Chandler put forth on 6/19/2010 1:20 PM:
 
 I have a server with a pair of raided (RAID1) disks using partition 1,2
 and 4 as /boot root and and and lvm volume respectively.  The two disks
 are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.  They have just replaced two smaller disks
 where the root partiton was NOT a raid device - it was just /dev/sda2
 although there was a raided boot partition in the first partition.
 Hardware only supports 2 sata channels.
 
 I wanted to revert to root partition to the same state as one I just
 took out, so I failed and removed sdb

_why_?  This doesn't make any sense.

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Re: Downgraded Flash Non-Free 32 to Backports

2010-06-19 Thread Greg Madden
On Saturday 19 June 2010 14:10:28 Freeman wrote:
 Flashpluggin non-free became very choppy on my 32 bit squeeze install with
 an old Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000].  Nothing played smoothly.

 It started near-about the recent xserver upgrades: xserver-xorg-core,
 xserver-common, xserver-xorg-video-ati, xserver-xorg-video-radeon, mesa
 utils. My version of flashpluggin dated back to September, '09.

 Upgrading firmware-linux to experimental did not work.

 Downgrading flashpluggin non-free to 2.8.0 did not work.

 Downgrading to flash to 2.5~bpo50+1, on a lark, did work. But that seems
 temporary at best.

 Is there some possible fix, something else in development or is flash
 simply going to be bad solution for old radeons?

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 Kind Regards,
 Freeman

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 the answer. --Somebody

Flash won't be fixed :-), and it is not really the issue.  The newer (squeeze) 
radeon driver has spotty support for older ATI adapters. 

My ATI M7 (7500) doesn't work well enough with the radeon driver, I use the 
vesa driver. 

 When I researched the issue it was apparent that old ATI where not supported 
by ATI or the xorg stuff. Seems like the same video adaptor is also different 
depending on the vendor.

 My ATI stuff is a Gateway 450ROG laptop. I have two, one with the M7 an one 
with the Fire GL, the Fire GL one works with the radeon driver but I don't 
use flash on it.

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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Andrew Reid
On Saturday 19 June 2010 02:02:17 ABS Doug wrote:
 I can't believe I'm still totally unable to figure out what is going
 on here. Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 was unable to handle downloading
 torrents. 
  
  [etc.]
 
  Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large
downloads?  What happens if you try to pull a few megs of 
something?

  I've had problems from time to time with MTU auto-discovery
and TCP frame-size negotiations, and the symptoms are generally
that small-packet, low-bandwidth traffic is fine, but big 
downloads stall out all the time.

  Modern routers (including WRT54Gs) are pretty good about this,
but network drivers play a role too, and they do differ between
the various OSs you've tried.

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Re: mdadm doing strange things

2010-06-19 Thread Andrew Reid
On Saturday 19 June 2010 14:20:27 Alan Chandler wrote:

[ Details elided ]

 HOWEVER (the punch line).  When this system booted, it was not the old
 reverted one but how it was before I started this cycle. In other words
 it looked as though the disk which I had failed and removed was being used

 If I did mdadm --detail /dev/md1 (or any of the other devices) it shows
 /dev/sdb as the only device on the raid pair.  To sync up again I am
 having to add in the various /dev/sda partitions.

 SO THE QUESTION IS.  What went wrong.  How does a failed device end up
 being used to build the operational arrays, and the other devices end up
 not being included.

  My understanding of how mdadm re-arranges the array (including for
failures, etc.) is that it writes metadata into the various partitions,
so I agree with you that this is weird -- I would have expected the
RAID array to come up with the sda devices as the only devices present.

  There are two things I can think of, neither quite right, but maybe
they'll motivate someone else to figure it out:

 (1) Device naming can be tricky when you're unplugging drives.  
Maybe the devices now showing up as sdb actually are the original
sda devices.  Can you check UUIDs?  This explanation also requires
that you didn't actually revert the disk, you only thought you did,
but then didn't catch it because the conjectural device-renaming 
convinced you that the RAID was being weird.

 (2) How did you revert the root partition?  If you copied all the 
files, then I have nothing else to add.  If you did dd between the
partitions, however, you may have creamed the md metadata, and caused
the system to think the sdb device was the good one.  This explanation
is unsatisfactory because, even if it's right, it only explains why
that partition should be reversed, not the others, although if you didn't
revert the others, they're copies, and you can't tell them apart anyways.

  Also, what happened to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf on the reverted root
partition?  Is it nonexistent on the one you're now booting from?  
There's potential for confusion there also, although I think the 
initramfs info will suffice until the next kernel update.

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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Allums

On 6/19/2010 9:51 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote:


Torrents are trouble.  Avoid them, if practical.  Your ISP may be
throttling them, although I can't see what difference the version of
Ubuntu would make.


Huh! It is much easier when one makes proper visualisation
of the protocols involved into the task. Peer2peer is not the
devil, but the way to do things. I cannot imagine downloading
debian dvd in one act. What if the line drops?



I agree, in an ideal universe, torrents are a great innovation, and 
should be the standard method.  Alas, in many places, by many ISPs, 
torrents are punished, throttled to the point of uselessness and worse.


I always download my Debian DVDs by http: protocol transfer.  (I have no 
alternative.)  If the connection is dropped, it can easily be resumed, 
because I use a download manager and I download from a mirror that 
supports resuming.





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Re: [OT] First computer

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Allums

On 6/19/2010 4:09 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 06/19/2010 03:35 AM, Klistvud wrote:

Dne, 19. 06. 2010 06:32:04 je Gerald napisal(a):

Those were the days when men were men and systems were built by
men.!
Gerald



Yep. As opposed to the Internet Age, in which not only men are men, but
most of the women are men as well, while little girls are actually FBI
agents ...



My daughter wants to be a Marine, not a Fed...



I think he means G-men posing as little girls in chat rooms.  But, yeah...




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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
 My conclusion would be: some time has to
 be spent to learn ins and outs of debian first. Next, to learn
 how torrent works, including reading rfc or whatever similar.
 Last, choose the application people use and help on forums or
 irc channel.

Or just used Windows. I mean it works  it would seem there are a fair
amount of people that really don't like requests for help on the Linux
E-mail help lists.


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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Mihira Fernando

On 06/20/2010 09:51 AM, Mark Allums wrote:


I agree, in an ideal universe, torrents are a great innovation, and 
should be the standard method.  Alas, in many places, by many ISPs, 
torrents are punished, throttled to the point of uselessness and worse.
Do they throttle torrents when protocol encryption is enabled as well ? 
My isp here does the same thing with unencrypted torrents but no issues 
at all when protocol encryption is turned on.


Mihira.


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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Andrew Reid rei...@bellatlantic.net wrote:
  Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large
 downloads?  What happens if you try to pull a few megs of
 something?

Usenet seems to work fine. But there I'm downloading in pieces of
course. Is the anything else I can put through the paces to trouble
shoot?

  I've had problems from time to time with MTU auto-discovery
 and TCP frame-size negotiations, and the symptoms are generally
 that small-packet, low-bandwidth traffic is fine, but big
 downloads stall out all the time.

I'm getting it with uploading alone, downloading with the connections
set to 6  not going fast either.

  Modern routers (including WRT54Gs) are pretty good about this,
 but network drivers play a role too, and they do differ between
 the various OSs you've tried.

Don't know... is the driver different in UNR 9.10  10.04? How would I check?


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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Mihira Fernando
mihirathe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do they throttle torrents when protocol encryption is enabled as well ? My
 isp here does the same thing with unencrypted torrents but no issues at all
 when protocol encryption is turned on.

Thing is, if I'm getting throttled, how come UNR 9.10 works fine? I
eliminated that as a possible issue, am I missing something?


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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Allums

On 6/19/2010 11:49 PM, Mihira Fernando wrote:

On 06/20/2010 09:51 AM, Mark Allums wrote:


I agree, in an ideal universe, torrents are a great innovation, and
should be the standard method. Alas, in many places, by many ISPs,
torrents are punished, throttled to the point of uselessness and worse.

Do they throttle torrents when protocol encryption is enabled as well ?
My isp here does the same thing with unencrypted torrents but no issues
at all when protocol encryption is turned on.

Mihira.




They can, whether they do is a different story.  They can't in theory 
(supposedly) tell what is going through a VPN, but in practice they have 
found they really can, after all.  Some ISPs are starting to throttle 
all VPNs and encrypted traffic.




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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/19/2010 11:59 PM, ABS Doug wrote:

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Andrew Reidrei...@bellatlantic.net  wrote:

  Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large
downloads?  What happens if you try to pull a few megs of
something?


Usenet seems to work fine. But there I'm downloading in pieces of
course. Is the anything else I can put through the paces to trouble
shoot?


pan2, unrar and par2 got me over my distrust of multi-part downloads.


  I've had problems from time to time with MTU auto-discovery
and TCP frame-size negotiations, and the symptoms are generally
that small-packet, low-bandwidth traffic is fine, but big
downloads stall out all the time.


I'm getting it with uploading alone, downloading with the connections
set to 6  not going fast either.


  Modern routers (including WRT54Gs) are pretty good about this,
but network drivers play a role too, and they do differ between
the various OSs you've tried.


Don't know... is the driver different in UNR 9.10  10.04? How would I check?



Depends on the h/w and kernel version.  First step is:
$ lspci | grep Ethernet

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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Tim Clewlow

 On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Andrew Reid
 rei...@bellatlantic.net wrote:
  Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large
 downloads?  What happens if you try to pull a few megs of
 something?

 Usenet seems to work fine. But there I'm downloading in pieces of
 course. Is the anything else I can put through the paces to trouble
 shoot?
.
torrents have many simultaneous connections open, on a badly
designed modem this will fill the NAT table and cause traffic flow
to become sluggish, or halt completely, on really bad modems they
just crash and need a hard reset - a single connection download will
not replicate this situation. Try dropping the maximum number of
connections setting in the torrent client, perhaps cut in half each
time for test, to see if it is the modems inability to manage a
large NAT table.


  I've had problems from time to time with MTU auto-discovery
 and TCP frame-size negotiations, and the symptoms are generally
 that small-packet, low-bandwidth traffic is fine, but big
 downloads stall out all the time.

 I'm getting it with uploading alone, downloading with the
 connections
 set to 6  not going fast either.
.
If you max out the uploads then the downloads will slow to a crawl
because the notification of receipt of each chunk will be stuck in
the upload queue, and often dropped out if the queue fills, which
means it takes much longer for your client to tell peers it is ready
to receive another chunk. Try dropping max upload to half your real
connection capacity, see what happens.

  Modern routers (including WRT54Gs) are pretty good about this,
 but network drivers play a role too, and they do differ between
 the various OSs you've tried.

 Don't know... is the driver different in UNR 9.10  10.04? How would
 I check?
.
It could also be that *nix torrent clients have much heavier default
settings than windows clients, and so windows clients never ask the
network to do as much work as *nix clients do. Also, the windows
stack itself is fairly lame and so doesnt load the nic as much as
*nix stack does. Again, lower the default settings in your torrent
client and see if that improves things (especially the maximum
overall number of connections)

Tim.


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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Zoran Kolic
 Or just used Windows. I mean it works  it would seem there are a fair
 amount of people that really don't like requests for help on the Linux
 E-mail help lists.

He-he! Contrary.
I assume poster tries to solve the problem himself first.
Aside of being polite, it is a fun to learn new things.
Some lists, like openbsd ones, ask you to do various steps
toward answer to the question. Describing the very problem,
giving data on hardware and software, dmesg etc. It really
helps. Knowning how to ask the question even lets you find
the way to go around. It is not the matter of not wanting
to help. I'm not sure what direction to help. What is the
app for torrenting? Error messages? Dmesg output? If in
any way possible to divide os bug from application behave-
our, might be easier to try #torrent-app irc channel or
my-app forum. If os, at least the way the node connects
to the internet. Wired, wireless? Firewall? Nat?
Best regards

Zoran


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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Allums

On 6/20/2010 12:04 AM, ABS Doug wrote:

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Mihira Fernando
mihirathe...@gmail.com  wrote:


Do they throttle torrents when protocol encryption is enabled as well ? My
isp here does the same thing with unencrypted torrents but no issues at all
when protocol encryption is turned on.


Thing is, if I'm getting throttled, how come UNR 9.10 works fine? I
eliminated that as a possible issue, am I missing something?




Throttling is just one possibility, and maybe (probably) not even the 
best guess.  It's just a suggestion.


I think throttling is more likely if you open lots of connections, so 
try using fewer.  Beyond about four, you won't see much improvement if 
you are already receiving at close to your connection's top speed.




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