Re: linphone et routeur

2011-04-22 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 22/04/2011 06:50, Antoine Vagabonddurail a écrit :

Bonjour,

Bonjour

[...]
En regardant sur le net, j'ai vu qu'en effet il était mieux de
sésactiver l'option de gestion du SIP pour faire fonctionner
linphone. Pourquoi ?
Le problème n'existe pas seulement avec Linphone: le signal SIP passe 
par le port 5060. Si Linphone utilise ce port en local et que ton NAT 
est symetrique on aura


Linphone (port 5060) - modem qui gere SIP (port 5060) - Freephonie.

Tu remarqueras que le signaling en retour entrera dans le port 5060 du 
modem qui fera je ne sais quoi, ce qui fait que cela ne fontionne pas.


Une solution: configure Linphone afin qu'il utilise le port 12345 par 
exemple, cela devrait fonctionner. Cependant personne ne pourra 
t'appeller en direct à moins de dire à ton modem de forwarder le port 
5060 en entrée vers IP Linphone:port 12345


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Re: linphone et routeur

2011-04-22 Thread Antoine Vagabonddurail
Bonjour,

je vois le principe, c'est un peu le raisonnement que je me faisais, à
la limite prêt que le test
que j'ai trouvé sur le net à ce sujet, indique le type passe en sip
depuis un client sous windows.
Il ne parle pas du fait que ce client à modifier ses ports. Après
c'est peut-être
un oublie de sa part dans son test.

Merci en tout cas !
Amicalement,
Antoine.

Le 21/04/11, Antoine Vagabonddurailvagabonddur...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 j'utilise linphone pour me connecter au service sip de free
 (freephonie.net).
 Je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes jusqu'à il y a peu quand j'ai disposé
 d'un nouveau routeur dsl.
 C'est un speedstream 5200.
 J'ai d'abord pensé à un problème de firewall et je l'ai désactivé mais
 rien a changé.
 Peut-être un problème avec la translation NAPT que j'utilise ?
 Je n'ai rien trouvé à ce sujet sur le net.
 Quelqu'un aurait-il une idée ?

 Amicalement,
 Antoine.


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Re: linphone et routeur

2011-04-22 Thread Anthony Bourguignon

Le 22/04/11 09:23, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

Le 22/04/2011 06:50, Antoine Vagabonddurail a écrit :

Bonjour,

Bonjour

[...]
En regardant sur le net, j'ai vu qu'en effet il était mieux de
sésactiver l'option de gestion du SIP pour faire fonctionner
linphone. Pourquoi ?

Le problème n'existe pas seulement avec Linphone: le signal SIP passe
par le port 5060. Si Linphone utilise ce port en local et que ton NAT
est symetrique on aura

Linphone (port 5060) - modem qui gere SIP (port 5060) - Freephonie.

Tu remarqueras que le signaling en retour entrera dans le port 5060 du
modem qui fera je ne sais quoi, ce qui fait que cela ne fontionne pas.

Une solution: configure Linphone afin qu'il utilise le port 12345 par
exemple, cela devrait fonctionner. Cependant personne ne pourra
t'appeller en direct à moins de dire à ton modem de forwarder le port
5060 en entrée vers IP Linphone:port 12345

Le problème est encore plus complexe que ça. SIP n'est que le protocole 
de signalisation. En gros, il sert juste à dire que tu es connecté et à 
quelle ip tu es joignable. Les flux audios et vidéos sont alloués sur 
des ports séparés. En ouvrant le port 5060, il est possible de faire 
sonner un téléphone SIP mais la conversation n'aura pas lieu (du moins 
pas sans utiliser d'autres artifices que SIP seul). Ça marche sur le 
même principe que le ftp en somme.


Donc la solution, c'est soit ipv6 (donc on oublie tout de suite), soit 
d'avoir un routeur qui fait du connection tracking et qui ouvre les 
ports rtp à la volée.


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Re: linphone et routeur

2011-04-22 Thread Antoine Vagabonddurail
Bonjour,

je n'ai pas encore testé ta solution Daniel mais quelques réflexions
me font douter, haut homme de peu de foie que je suis
il me semble que le porte forwarding empêchera mon client sip de se
connecter vers
le serveur freephonie et que dans tous les cas le client sip n'agira
pas comme un serveur sip quand on va m'appeler donc
l'appelle ne me parviendrait pas je pense.

Amicalement,
Antoine.

Le 22/04/11, Antoine Vagabonddurailvagabonddur...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 je vois le principe, c'est un peu le raisonnement que je me faisais, à
 la limite prêt que le test
 que j'ai trouvé sur le net à ce sujet, indique le type passe en sip
 depuis un client sous windows.
 Il ne parle pas du fait que ce client à modifier ses ports. Après
 c'est peut-être
 un oublie de sa part dans son test.

 Merci en tout cas !
 Amicalement,
 Antoine.

 Le 21/04/11, Antoine Vagabonddurailvagabonddur...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 j'utilise linphone pour me connecter au service sip de free
 (freephonie.net).
 Je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes jusqu'à il y a peu quand j'ai disposé
 d'un nouveau routeur dsl.
 C'est un speedstream 5200.
 J'ai d'abord pensé à un problème de firewall et je l'ai désactivé mais
 rien a changé.
 Peut-être un problème avec la translation NAPT que j'utilise ?
 Je n'ai rien trouvé à ce sujet sur le net.
 Quelqu'un aurait-il une idée ?

 Amicalement,
 Antoine.



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Re: linphone et routeur

2011-04-22 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 22/04/2011 10:53, Anthony Bourguignon a écrit :

Le 22/04/11 09:23, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

Le 22/04/2011 06:50, Antoine Vagabonddurail a écrit :

Bonjour,

Bonjour

[...]
En regardant sur le net, j'ai vu qu'en effet il était mieux de
sésactiver l'option de gestion du SIP pour faire fonctionner
linphone. Pourquoi ?

Le problème n'existe pas seulement avec Linphone: le signal SIP passe
par le port 5060. Si Linphone utilise ce port en local et que ton NAT
est symetrique on aura

Linphone (port 5060) - modem qui gere SIP (port 5060) - Freephonie.

Tu remarqueras que le signaling en retour entrera dans le port 5060 du
modem qui fera je ne sais quoi, ce qui fait que cela ne fontionne pas.

Une solution: configure Linphone afin qu'il utilise le port 12345 par
exemple, cela devrait fonctionner. Cependant personne ne pourra
t'appeller en direct à moins de dire à ton modem de forwarder le port
5060 en entrée vers IP Linphone:port 12345

Le problème est encore plus complexe que ça. SIP n'est que le 
protocole de signalisation. En gros, il sert juste à dire que tu es 
connecté et à quelle ip tu es joignable. Les flux audios et vidéos 
sont alloués sur des ports séparés. En ouvrant le port 5060, il est 
possible de faire sonner un téléphone SIP mais la conversation n'aura 
pas lieu (du moins pas sans utiliser d'autres artifices que SIP seul). 
Ça marche sur le même principe que le ftp en somme.


Bien sur. Mais tant que le 5060 ne fonctionne pas -et c'est le seul port 
géré par les modems routeurs qui gèrent le SIP puisqu'ils ne savent pas 
quel sera/seront les ports RTP utilisés- il n'y a que ce port à faire 
fonctionner. Pour l'audio on pensera que le modem n'est pas complètement 
stupide. Et si cela ne devait pas fonctionner, Linphone permet aussi de 
figer son port UDP audio ou video. Ainsi un simple port forwarding sur 
le modem devrait faire fonctionner l'ensemble.


[...]

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HS: Vérification envoi backup rsync

2011-04-22 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Bonjour,

A mon stage, j'ai installé un ordinateur qui servira de serveur sous
Debian squeeze. J'ai besoin d'effectuer une sauvegarde quotidienne
sur un partage w$.

J'ai donc monté avec smbfs ce répertoire.
J'utilise rsync de façon simple, de la même manière qu'un cp.

Mon problème est le suivant :
Comment être sûr que la sauvegarde s'est
bien effectuée ?  Concrètement, si le serveur cible est tombé, je
suppose que le rsync va écrire dans le point de montage, donc sur le
disque dur et non dans le partage, par conséquent, aucun message
d'erreur.

Comment pourrais-je vérifier que la sauvegarde s'est mal passée afin
d'envoyer un mail ? Envoyer un mail, je pense savoir faire :-).

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[no subject]

2011-04-22 Thread Claude Schoen
Bonjour,

Peut on installer DEBIAN 6.0 32 bits sur une architecture amd64 sans 
conséquence notable sur les applications telles qu'Eclipse 32 bits (qui ne 
trouve pas le « ld »)?

Merci,

Claude Schoen





Re: Debian 6.0 32Bits sur AMD64

2011-04-22 Thread Thibault Dupuis

Le 22/04/2011 11:39, Claude Schoen a écrit :


Bonjour,

Peut on installer DEBIAN 6.0 32 bits sur une architecture amd64 sans 
conséquence notable sur les applications telles qu'Eclipse 32 bits 
(qui ne trouve pas le « ld »)?


Merci,

Claude Schoen

**


Bonjour,

Oui vous pouvez installer sans problème une distribution 32 Bits sur une 
architecture AMD64.

Il n'y a aucun problème de ce côté là.

Cordialement.


Re:

2011-04-22 Thread jerome . moliere
Bonjour Claude..
En bref oui a ta question au bemol du support d'un large espace d'adressage 
memoire (plus de 4Go voire 8 Go) a noter que malgre les apparences la version 
32bits semble plus efficiente d'après les benchmarks...
Jerome
 Envoyé avec BlackBerry® d'Orange 

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schoen claude.sch...@esg-france.fr
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:39:37 
To: debian-user-french@lists.debian.orgdebian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Subject:

Bonjour,

Peut on installer DEBIAN 6.0 32 bits sur une architecture amd64 sans 
conséquence notable sur les applications telles qu'Eclipse 32 bits (qui ne 
trouve pas le « ld »)?

Merci,

Claude Schoen






Re: linphone et routeur

2011-04-22 Thread Antoine Vagabonddurail
Bonjour,

en effet, pour téléphoner et établir les connexions audio et vidéo,
linphone passe par rtp sur d'autres ports.
Classiquement le 7078 pour audio et 9078 pour vidéo.
Je ne pense pas pour le moment que cela posera problème une fois que
l'échange sip pour m'identifier au serveur
freephonie sera passée.
Car oui, ça commence mal dès le départ, l'échange SIP avec le serveur
freephonie ne se fait pas.
Je n'en suis donc pas au moment de pouvoir envisager d'appeler.

J'ai testé ta solution Daniel, et cela ne march pas comme mes
réflexions me le faisaient craindre.
J'ai changé le port utilisé par linphone et rien de mieux pour
m'identifier auprès du serveur freephonie.
En fait, en relisant la doc attentivement pour le modem, je pense
qu'il y a peut-être une confusion de vocabulaire.
La seule référence à sip est dans les règles de firewall préconstruits.
Celle-ci disent qu'il autorise en sortie et de fait autorise en entrée
si si cela répond à une sollicitation par une
demande sortante.
Nul part il n'est dit que le sip est géré ou prise en charge.
Y a-t'il distinction ou confusion de ces deux idées ?

Amicalement,
Antoine.

Le 22/04/11, Antoine Vagabonddurailvagabonddur...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 je n'ai pas encore testé ta solution Daniel mais quelques réflexions
 me font douter, haut homme de peu de foie que je suis
 il me semble que le porte forwarding empêchera mon client sip de se
 connecter vers
 le serveur freephonie et que dans tous les cas le client sip n'agira
 pas comme un serveur sip quand on va m'appeler donc
 l'appelle ne me parviendrait pas je pense.

 Amicalement,
 Antoine.

 Le 22/04/11, Antoine Vagabonddurailvagabonddur...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 je vois le principe, c'est un peu le raisonnement que je me faisais, à
 la limite prêt que le test
 que j'ai trouvé sur le net à ce sujet, indique le type passe en sip
 depuis un client sous windows.
 Il ne parle pas du fait que ce client à modifier ses ports. Après
 c'est peut-être
 un oublie de sa part dans son test.

 Merci en tout cas !
 Amicalement,
 Antoine.

 Le 21/04/11, Antoine Vagabonddurailvagabonddur...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 j'utilise linphone pour me connecter au service sip de free
 (freephonie.net).
 Je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes jusqu'à il y a peu quand j'ai disposé
 d'un nouveau routeur dsl.
 C'est un speedstream 5200.
 J'ai d'abord pensé à un problème de firewall et je l'ai désactivé mais
 rien a changé.
 Peut-être un problème avec la translation NAPT que j'utilise ?
 Je n'ai rien trouvé à ce sujet sur le net.
 Quelqu'un aurait-il une idée ?

 Amicalement,
 Antoine.




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Re: Debian x86 sur architecture amd64

2011-04-22 Thread TraydenT
Le Friday 22 April 2011 11:39:37, Claude Schoen a écrit :
 Bonjour,
Bonjour,
 
 Peut on installer DEBIAN 6.0 32 bits sur une architecture amd64 sans
 conséquence notable sur les applications telles qu'Eclipse 32 bits (qui ne
 trouve pas le « ld »)?
L'installation et l'utilisation ne pose pas de poblème (à ma connaissance), 
mais voulez-vous faire cette installation pour résoudre un problème lié à 
Eclipse ne trouvant pas « ld » ? Si c'est le cas, le problème risque de ne pas 
être résolu par cette réinstallation.

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Re: Debian x86 sur architecture amd64

2011-04-22 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 12:05:54 +0200
TraydenT trayd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Le Friday 22 April 2011 11:39:37, Claude Schoen a écrit :
  Peut on installer DEBIAN 6.0 32 bits sur une architecture amd64 sans
  conséquence notable sur les applications telles qu'Eclipse 32 bits (qui ne
  trouve pas le « ld »)?
 L'installation et l'utilisation ne pose pas de poblème (à ma connaissance), 
 mais voulez-vous faire cette installation pour résoudre un problème lié à 
 Eclipse ne trouvant pas « ld » ? Si c'est le cas, le problème risque de ne 
 pas 
 être résolu par cette réinstallation

Je pense aussi que ce problème de ld pas trouvé n'a rien à voir avec
l'architecture 32 ou 64 bits de la distribution. Pour info, le
programme ld est dans le paquet binutils et il faut s'assurer que ce
paquet est bien installé.

Enfin, on pourrait même avoir une distribution 32 bits sous une
distribution 64 bits, par exemple en utilisant debootstrap et chroot.

Librement

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Re: HS: Vérification envoi backup rsync

2011-04-22 Thread Julien
Le vendredi 22 avril 2011 à 11:36 +0200, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 A mon stage, j'ai installé un ordinateur qui servira de serveur sous
 Debian squeeze. J'ai besoin d'effectuer une sauvegarde quotidienne
 sur un partage w$.
 
 J'ai donc monté avec smbfs ce répertoire.
 J'utilise rsync de façon simple, de la même manière qu'un cp.
 
 Mon problème est le suivant :
 Comment être sûr que la sauvegarde s'est
 bien effectuée ?  

Je te conseil de monté ton partage samba juste avant de faire la
sauvegarde et de le démonté ensuite. Si ce n'est pas possible, il faut
tester le montage en recherchant par exemple l'espace libre. 

Si ton point de montage est /mnt/backup, une recherche de /mnt/backup en
sorti de commandes 'mount' n'est peut être pas suffisant. Si il y a eu
un pb réseaux, ton point de montage peut être là (il apparaît en sorti
de la commande mount) mais non utilisable/corrompu. 

Si tu monte le partage juste avant la sauvegarde et que tu le démonte
après tu n'auras pas ce problème. Tu peux vérifier le code de retour de
la commande 'mount' pour vérifier que ton montage s'est bien effectuer
(if [ $? -ne 0 ])

Par exemple : 

echo 'Montage du partage samba'
mount /mnt/backup
if [ $? -ne 0 ] 
then
echo Probleme au montage du partage samba
# ici tu peux envoyer ton mail 
exit 1
fi
rsync ...
umount /mnt/backup

Enfin, je te conseil de regarder l'option de rsync --modify-window qui
peut éviter des transferts alors que les fichiers sont les mêmes.

Julien 

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Re: HS: Vérification envoi backup rsync

2011-04-22 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Le 22/04/11, Julienjul...@nura.eu a écrit :
 Je te conseil de monté ton partage samba juste avant de faire la
 sauvegarde et de le démonté ensuite. Si ce n'est pas possible, il
faut

Oui, cette idée m'est venue à la pause de midi. Je me suis posé la
question s'il était indispensable que le partage soit monté
au démarrage.  Finalement, cela était bon quand j'avais à tester des
choses, mais maintenant plus la peine.

 echo 'Montage du partage samba'
 mount /mnt/backup
 if [ $? -ne 0 ]
   then
   echo Probleme au montage du partage samba
   # ici tu peux envoyer ton mail
   exit 1
 fi
 rsync ...
 umount /mnt/backup

J'ai fait ça en effet !

 Enfin, je te conseil de regarder l'option de rsync --modify-window qui
 peut éviter des transferts alors que les fichiers sont les mêmes.

Merci pour le conseil, je vais regarder à quoi correspond la valeur
demandée par ce paramètre.

Grand merci,

Raphaël

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isc-dhcp-server sous squeeze et clients windows 7

2011-04-22 Thread Sylvain MEDEOT

Bonjour à tous,

J'ai un serveur qui fait office de serveur dhcp via isc-dhcp-server sous squeeze. Il 
fonctionne très bien mais je viens de remarquer en branchant un poste sous Windows 7 que 
ce dernier ne prenait pas d'adresse IP.


Avez vous déjà rencontré ce problème ?

ma config :

server-identifier monserveur;

authoritative;
log-facility local7;

ddns-updates on;
ddns-update-style interim;
ddns-domainname mondomaine.fr.;

shared-network data
{
option domain-name mondomaine.fr;
option routers 192.168.1.1;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.3.1;
option ntp-servers 192.168.3.1;
option netbios-name-servers 192.168.3.1;

default-lease-time 28800;
max-lease-time 5;

subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
{
deny unknown-clients;
}

host monposteseven {
hardware ethernet 00:26:9b:05:9f:ee;
fixed-address 192.168.1.20; }
}

Dans les logs, on a :

Apr 22 14:19:06 localhost dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:26:9b:05:9f:ee via eth0.10
Apr 22 14:19:06 localhost dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.20 to 00:26:9b:05:9f:ee 
via eth0.10

Si quelqu'un a des idées, je suis preneur...

Merci d'avance,

Sylvain

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Re: isc-dhcp-server sous squeeze et clients windows 7

2011-04-22 Thread Bruno Muller
Hello,

Le vendredi 22 avril 2011 à 16:35 +0200, Sylvain MEDEOT a écrit : 
 Apr 22 14:19:06 localhost dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:26:9b:05:9f:ee via 
 eth0.10
 Apr 22 14:19:06 localhost dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.20 to 
 00:26:9b:05:9f:ee via eth0.10

Le Windows 7 est bien dans le vlan 10 ?
Un wireshark (ou autre) sur le Windows 7 montre quoi ? le paquet
DHCPOFFER arrive bien ?

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[Un peu HS] Equivalent PostgreSQL du Number d'Oracle

2011-04-22 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

Comme c'est vendredi, veille d'un long week-end de trois jours, je
tente ma question ;-)

Je souhaiterais faire quelques comparaisons entre Oracle  PostgreSQL.
Bien évidemment, dès la reprise d'un script SQL, je tombe sur une
erreur :
ERREUR:  le type « number » n'existe pas
LIGNE 16 :( ID NUMBER(19,0), 

J'ai fait quelques recherches, mais il semblerait que ce ne soit pas
évident. Est-ce que, par hasard, quelqu'un aurait déjà été confronté à
ce problème et aurait une solution ?

Merci d'avance et bonnes fêtes de Pâques.

David.

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[~ résolu] Re: [Un peu HS] Equivalent PostgreSQL du Number d'Oracle

2011-04-22 Thread David BERCOT
Le Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:03:05 +0200,
David BERCOT deb...@bercot.org a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 Comme c'est vendredi, veille d'un long week-end de trois jours, je
 tente ma question ;-)
 
 Je souhaiterais faire quelques comparaisons entre Oracle  PostgreSQL.
 Bien évidemment, dès la reprise d'un script SQL, je tombe sur une
 erreur :
 ERREUR:  le type « number » n'existe pas
 LIGNE 16 :( ID NUMBER(19,0), 

Finalement, il semblerait que le NUMERIC fasse l'affaire...

Désolé pour le dérangement...

David.

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voir la source des mount -n --bind

2011-04-22 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Bonjour,

Avec openvz, j'utilise des 
mount -n --bind $src $dst

On peut voir la destination dans /proc/mounts, mais comment retrouver la source 
utilisée ?
(c'est seulement la partition de la source qui est indiquée dans /proc/mounts).

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Plus d'accès à MySQL

2011-04-22 Thread corbie
Bonsoir,

je n'ai plus d'accès à mes bases de données MySQL :

# mysqlcheck all-databases
mysqlcheck: Got error: 2002: 
Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
'/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) when trying to connect
---

Impossible de les démarrer : 
#service mysql start
et rien ne se passe, bloqué = CTRL-C

Merci beaucoup d'une aide !

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Re: Forzar entrada por SSH de un user a entrar con SCREEN.

2011-04-22 Thread Ramses
Fanfástica explicación la de todos, voy a hacer pruebas y cuento...

Por cierto, en cuanto a lo de evitar que el usuario cierre la sesión de screen 
ejecutando exit, ¿algún comentario?.


Saludos y gracias,

Ramses

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wvdial

2011-04-22 Thread Carlos Alvarez
Saludos a toda la Comunidad Debian Español

Soy usuario Debian desde Lenny, antes de instalar Squeeze, me parece que se
tenia que instalar algunos paquetes para poder conectarse a internet,
mediante los modem zte mf 180, dichos paquetes eran:

wvdial
usb-modeswitch
usb-modeswitch-data

Dicho sea de paso, nunca me conecte desde Lenny a internet. He estado
trabajando con Squeeze, ahora que conecto el modem, automáticamente me
permite configurar la conexión, esto es muy bueno, pero he estado revisando
y al parecer solo tengo instalados los paquetes:

usb-modeswitch
usb-modeswitch-data

No se que cual es el paquete que sustituye a wvdial acá en Squeeze (aunque
wvdial esta incluido en Squeeze pero no lo instala por defecto), me gustaría
saberlo, ya que quiero tratar de optimizar mi conexión. Además me gustaría
que me recomendaran una lectura, en donde pueda encontrar información sobre
configuración de conexión a internet mediante modem usb.

De antemano gracias.

-- 
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Cambiar el parámetro dpi del servidor X.

2011-04-22 Thread AngelD
	Antes, para todas las configuraciones del servidor X se utilizaba 
'/etc/X11/xorg.conf', como por ejemplo las configuraciones del teclado, 
pero ahora parece que se usa dbus pare estos menesteres.


	Ahora quiero cambiar el valor del parámetro dpi de Xorg, ¿hay 
alguna manera de realizarlo sin tocar el /etc/X11/xorg.conf?.


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Re: Evolution y el Navegador asociado a las URLs

2011-04-22 Thread Usuario Debian
El vie, 22-04-2011 a las 00:01 +0200, AngelD escribió:
 Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Camaleón:
 
  El Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:52:41 +0200, AngelD escribió:
 
  En evolution, cuando me llega un correo con un enlace y pincho sobre el,
  éste se abre en una ventana de terminal y elinks.
 
 He tocado todo lo que se me ha ocurrido, realizando un
  update-alternatives --config x-www-browser, cambiando la aplicación
  preferida en gnome-control-center, pero sigue sin hacerme caso,
  abriendo los enlaces en elinks.
 
 He intentado buscar la referencia a elinks en todos los ficheros
  de configuración que se me han ocurrido, y el resultado ha sido nulo.
 
 ¿Dónde está la maldita referencia para poder cambiarla?.
 
  ¿Y sólo te pasa con Evolution o con cualquier aplicación?
 
   Sólo intento abrir los enlaces http que vienen con el evolution. 
 No necesito abrir enlaces desde ninguna otra aplicación. En cuanto vuelva 
 a la máquina (dentro de unos días), hago las pruebas.
 
  Por lo general el navegador predeterminado viene definido según el
  entorno gráfico que uses y se cambia de igual forma, es decir, si tienes
  Gnome desde las aplicaciones preferidas, con KDE desde el centro de
  control, etc...
 
   En WindowMaker no existe nada parecido. Se supone que las 
 aplicaciones gnome utilizan las preferencias de gnome, las de kde,  
 (esto y el módo de utilizar recursos remotos es lo que más me jode de la 
 diversidad escritorios). Como Evolution es de gnome, configuré las 
 preferencias de gnome para que fueran a Firefox, pero el resultado fue el 
 mismo.
 
  ¿Tenías windowmaker, no? :-?
 
   Sip. Alguién tiene que seguir probando un entorno que lleva años 
 sin evolucionar. :-DD
 
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Solo un apunte,, existe un fork de WindowMaker para su continuación!!!


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Re: Evolution y el Navegador asociado a las URLs

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:01:17 +0200, AngelD escribió:

 Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Camaleón:

 Por lo general el navegador predeterminado viene definido según el
 entorno gráfico que uses y se cambia de igual forma, es decir, si
 tienes Gnome desde las aplicaciones preferidas, con KDE desde el centro
 de control, etc...
 
   En WindowMaker no existe nada parecido. Se supone que las
 aplicaciones gnome utilizan las preferencias de gnome, las de kde, 
 (esto y el módo de utilizar recursos remotos es lo que más me jode de la
 diversidad escritorios). Como Evolution es de gnome, configuré las
 preferencias de gnome para que fueran a Firefox, pero el resultado fue
 el mismo.

Ya, pero eso te funcionará si estás dentro de GNOME, cuando cargas WM ni 
GNOME ni KDE pueden gestionar eso, los archivos que modificas no tienen 
ningún efecto.

Tiene que haber alguna forma de decirle a WM qué aplicaciones quieres 
cargar... mira, este mensaje te podría dar alguna pista:

Re: No way to set default applications...
http://lists.windowmaker.info/dev/msg00365.html

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Re: wvdial

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 22 Apr 2011 02:21:20 -0600, Carlos Alvarez escribió:

(...)

 No se que cual es el paquete que sustituye a wvdial acá en Squeeze
 (aunque wvdial esta incluido en Squeeze pero no lo instala por defecto),
 me gustaría saberlo, ya que quiero tratar de optimizar mi conexión.

Puedes instalar wvdial, sigue estando disponible y es de los marcadores 
que mejor funcionan.

Otra opción sería intentar configurar NetworkManager pero sinceramente, 
nunca he logrado que pudiera manejar el módem HSDPA ;-(

 Además me gustaría que me recomendaran una lectura, en donde pueda
 encontrar información sobre configuración de conexión a internet
 mediante modem usb.

http://wiki.debian.org/Modem

Pero instalar estos aparatos suele ser muy sencillo, básicamente que te 
detecte el módem como tal (y no como unidad de almacenamiento) y 
configurar los parámetros del marcador para poder salir a Internet. Y 
poco más :-)

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Re: Cambiar el parámetro dpi del servidor X.

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:34:52 +0200, AngelD escribió:

 Antes, para todas las configuraciones del servidor X se utilizaba
 '/etc/X11/xorg.conf', como por ejemplo las configuraciones del teclado,
 pero ahora parece que se usa dbus pare estos menesteres.
 
   Ahora quiero cambiar el valor del parámetro dpi de Xorg, ¿hay
 alguna manera de realizarlo sin tocar el /etc/X11/xorg.conf?.

¿Por qué no quieres tocar los archivos de configuración de xorg? :-?

De nuevo te digo que de eso se encarga el entorno gráfico, y si tienes 
window maker, tendrás que o bien configurarlo desde ahí (si WM lo 
permite) o bien tirar de xorg :-P

En GNOME lo puedes definir desde el editor de configuración (clave: /
desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi valor: 96) pero ya te digo, 
¿respetará/aplicará WM esta configuración?

Otra opción sería intentar pasarle el parámetro al iniciarlo, p. ej., con 
startx:

startx WindowMaker -- -dpi 96

Saludos,

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Re: [OT] El smtp de Gmail (era: icedove no me descarga los mensajes que yo envío a la lista)

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:49:38 -0430, Juan Lavieri escribió:

 El 21/04/11 12:30, Camaleón escribió:

 ¿Con qué finalidad, si no es indiscreción? :-?
 
 Por lo mismo que dijiste en el párrafo anterior.  

(...)

Pero es que no vas a poder :-P

De nada sirve que te envíes una copia a ti mismo porque no pasará por el 
servidor de la lista, es directo, y seguramente Gmail volverá a hacer lo 
mismo (eliminará el original y te mantendrá el local).

 Con IMAP no te descarga nada, los mensajes se quedan en el servidor
 hasta que decidas borrarlos. Si activas el IMAP, desde el cliente de
 correo verás las carpetas tal cual las tienes en el webmail, bandeja de
 entrada (inbox), todos, enviados, borradores... y te podrás suscribir
 (recibir notificaciones) de las que quieras.
 
 Me parece que voy a tener que leer sobre IMAP, de verdad no tengo idea
 de como funciona...  El día debería tener unas 43 horas para que
 alcancen para todo;  es mucho lo que hay que aprender.

IMAP es similar al webmail con la ventaja de que puedes copiar los 
mensajes que quieras a tu disco duro para mantener una copia local de los 
correos (emulando al POP3).

 [OT] Por cierto ¡!¡Felicidades a los madrilistas!!! o como quiera que se
 llamen.
 
 Ya era hora ¿no?

Sip, bueno, la verdad es que desde mi punto de vista creo que jugaron 
mejor.

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Re: Cambiar el parámetro dpi del servidor X.

2011-04-22 Thread AngelD

Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Camaleón:


El Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:34:52 +0200, AngelD escribió:


Antes, para todas las configuraciones del servidor X se utilizaba
'/etc/X11/xorg.conf', como por ejemplo las configuraciones del teclado,
pero ahora parece que se usa dbus pare estos menesteres.

Ahora quiero cambiar el valor del parámetro dpi de Xorg, ¿hay
alguna manera de realizarlo sin tocar el /etc/X11/xorg.conf?.


¿Por qué no quieres tocar los archivos de configuración de xorg? :-?


	Si se ha eliminado la configuración del teclado de éste fichero, 
se podrán elininar otras configuraciones.



De nuevo te digo que de eso se encarga el entorno gráfico, y si tienes
window maker, tendrás que o bien configurarlo desde ahí (si WM lo
permite) o bien tirar de xorg :-P


No lo permite, y la idea es tirar de Xorg sin xorg.conf


En GNOME lo puedes definir desde el editor de configuración (clave: /
desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi valor: 96) pero ya te digo,
¿respetará/aplicará WM esta configuración?


No, no la respeta.


Otra opción sería intentar pasarle el parámetro al iniciarlo, p. ej., con
startx:


No es una opción.
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Re: OpenOffice 3.3 [desẗrolliandonos]

2011-04-22 Thread Horacio
 Por mucho menos que esto es para que te eliminen en la lista.

 Que le pasa al administrador de la lista que no le pone coto a esto?
 Hasta cuando tendremos que estar recibiendo este tipo de mensaje?

Habla inglés, es yanky y no simpatiza con los *.cu


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Re: Forzar entrada por SSH de un user a entrar con SCREEN.

2011-04-22 Thread David Guillermo
2011/4/22 Ramses ramses.sevi...@gmail.com

 Fanfástica explicación la de todos, voy a hacer pruebas y cuento...

 Por cierto, en cuanto a lo de evitar que el usuario cierre la sesión de
 screen ejecutando exit, ¿algún comentario?.


 Saludos y gracias,

 Ramses


Porque no usas 'script' es para loguear, tirando de tail -f puedes verlo en
tiempo real... (no soy partidario de sudo, no nos soportamos ni él a mi ni
yo a él...  feeling)


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Re: OpenOffice 3.3 [desẗrolliandonos]

2011-04-22 Thread Ismael L. Donis García
- Original Message - 
From: Horacio horacio9...@gmail.com

To: Debian Lista debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.3 [desẗrolliandonos]



Por mucho menos que esto es para que te eliminen en la lista.

Que le pasa al administrador de la lista que no le pone coto a esto?
Hasta cuando tendremos que estar recibiendo este tipo de mensaje?


Habla inglés, es yanky y no simpatiza con los *.cu
--

Talves porque hemos sido los únicos que le dimos por dande el dijo y 
tuvieron que salir de aquí con eso dentro de las patas, ahora recientemente 
conmemoramos un aniversario más de la derrota de playa girón y hemos sido 
referencia para el resto del mundo por muchos años.


Ellos que proclaman la libertad nos impiden que descargemos hasta los soft 
completamente libres bloqueando sus páginas de descarga. Un ejemplo muy 
claro está en sourceforgue o Java.


Saludos Cordiales
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Re: Cambiar el parámetro dpi del servidor X.

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:37:32 +0200, AngelD escribió:

 Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Camaleón:

 ¿Por qué no quieres tocar los archivos de configuración de xorg? :-?
 
   Si se ha eliminado la configuración del teclado de éste fichero,
 se podrán elininar otras configuraciones.

No entiendo... aún sigue siendo posible configurar manualmente los 
parámetros de Xorg mediante el (o los) archivo de configuración. No se ha 
eliminado nada :-?

 De nuevo te digo que de eso se encarga el entorno gráfico, y si tienes
 window maker, tendrás que o bien configurarlo desde ahí (si WM lo
 permite) o bien tirar de xorg :-P
 
   No lo permite, y la idea es tirar de Xorg sin xorg.conf

Pus si WM no lo permite y no quieres tirar de Xorg ¿cómo piensas 
hacerlo? :-)

 En GNOME lo puedes definir desde el editor de configuración (clave: /
 desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi valor: 96) pero ya te digo,
 ¿respetará/aplicará WM esta configuración?
 
   No, no la respeta.
 
 Otra opción sería intentar pasarle el parámetro al iniciarlo, p. ej.,
 con startx:
 
   No es una opción.

¿Por algún motivo en concreto? 

Tiene que haber algún archivo en WM donde se pueda definir los parámetros 
de inicio y por ende, establecer el valor del dpi.

Saludos,

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Re: OpenOffice 3.3 [desẗrolliandonos]

2011-04-22 Thread Felix Perez
El día 22 de abril de 2011 08:39, Horacio horacio9...@gmail.com escribió:
 Por mucho menos que esto es para que te eliminen en la lista.

 Que le pasa al administrador de la lista que no le pone coto a esto?
 Hasta cuando tendremos que estar recibiendo este tipo de mensaje?

 Habla inglés, es yanky y no simpatiza con los *.cu



33 mensajes a la lista en 6 años y te atreves a escribir esto.

Que estupideces hay que leer de vez en cuando por aquí.




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Re: OpenOffice 3.3 [desẗrolliandonos]

2011-04-22 Thread Felix Perez
El día 22 de abril de 2011 09:16, Ismael L. Donis García
ism...@citricos.co.cu escribió:
 - Original Message - From: Horacio horacio9...@gmail.com
 To: Debian Lista debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:39 AM
 Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.3 [desẗrolliandonos]


 Por mucho menos que esto es para que te eliminen en la lista.

 Que le pasa al administrador de la lista que no le pone coto a esto?
 Hasta cuando tendremos que estar recibiendo este tipo de mensaje?

 Habla inglés, es yanky y no simpatiza con los *.cu
 --

 Talves porque hemos sido los únicos que le dimos por dande el dijo y
 tuvieron que salir de aquí con eso dentro de las patas, ahora recientemente
 conmemoramos un aniversario más de la derrota de playa girón y hemos sido
 referencia para el resto del mundo por muchos años.

Cuendo expreses mejor la idea tal vez pueda entenderte.


 Ellos que proclaman la libertad nos impiden que descargemos hasta los soft
 completamente libres bloqueando sus páginas de descarga. Un ejemplo muy
 claro está en sourceforgue o Java.

Y acaso ustedes tiene los dedos crespos? como decimos por acá, se
les ha ofrecido ayuda hasta el cansancio, incluso para crear un repo
local, son ustedes los que deben abrirse al mundo, que no puden tirar
de sourceforge, pues no lo usen, que no hay java, pues no lo usen,
desarrollen ustedes mismos lo que necesitan, tienen las herramientas,
pues ahora usenlas,  ¿que más quieren? ¿Libertad? No es a la lista la
que deben reclamar eso, ustedes saben bien a quien deben reclamar,
ahora si no la hacen, no pueden o no saben, no es problema nuestro.
 Por favor ya paren con el llanterío, así como se levantaron el 59 no
veo como no lo hacen ahora.

Disculpen si ofendí a alguién, no ha sido mi intención.

Saludos y suerte.

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Re: OpenOffice 3.3 [desẗrolliandonos]

2011-04-22 Thread BasaBuru
On Viernes 22 Abril 2011 15:16:05 Ismael L. Donis García escribió:

 Habla inglés, es yanky y no simpatiza con los *.cu
 --

Ismael por mucho que te joda este comportamiento ofensivo e insultante no 
respondas a los trolls

por cierto el listmaster es un grupo y no hay ningun yanqui que yo sepa. 
Listo.

Que viva playa giron, Una buena golpe en todos los morros a los gusanos y los 
putos yanquis.

Un abrazo

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Re: Forzar entrada por SSH de un user a entrar con SCREEN.

2011-04-22 Thread Ramses
 El día 21 de abril de 2011 23:35, Raul Hormazabal rhorm...@gmail.com 
 escribió:
 
 
 2011/4/21 Ramses ramses.sevi...@gmail.com
 
 El tema es que para conectarme a esa sesión tengo que estar logado con el
 mismo user y hacer un screen -x o ver el listado y conectar a la que
 quiera. ¿No podría hacerlo desde otro user?
 
 screen permite reattach a window por differentes usuarios...hechele un
 vistazo a la documentacion official..
 http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html#Multiuser-Session
 
 Yo te driría que uses sudo, en debian para instalarlo:
 
 # apt-get install sudo
 
 Vos podés crear un usuario normal, sin grupo root, y que ese usuario
 este en la lista de sudoers (/etc/sudoers), ahí podés agregar a un
 usuario en particular, o todo un grupo anteponiendo %, podes
 porjemplo crear un grupo admins:
 
 # groupadd admins
 
 y luego asignarlo como grupo al usuario en cuestion:
 
 # usermod -G admins
 
 Y en /etc/sudoers pone:
 
 %admins ALL=(ALL) ALL
 
 de esa forma el usuario ya va a poder usar el comando sudo, con su
 contraseña para ejecutar comandos en modo root, si en el archivo de
 inicio le ponés:
 
 sudo screen
 
 Estaria arrancando screens como root, lo malo es que el usuario
 después de loguearse tendría que poner nuevamente su contraseña.
 
 Ya para ver las sesiones abiertas solo listas las de usuario root.
 
 Si querés tenes un control mas sobre usuario podes arrancar el
 screen sin sudo (y que el usuario tenga que usarlo una vez ya
 logueado)., para ejecutar screen con ese usuario, desde otro,
 preferentemente root, podes usar su:
 
 # su -c usuario screen -x
 
 El parametro -c ejecuta un programa con el usuario pedido, en caso
 de ser root, no te va a pedir password, en caso de hacerlo desde otro
 usuario vas a tener que saber el pass de ese usuario, y hay sitemas
 que no lo permiten como FreeBSD donde si o si tenes que ser Root para
 eejcutar su con el parametro -c.

Buenas,

Creo que lo he hecho todo tal como comentaban:

- Crear el user pruebas
- Crear el group admin
- Hacer pertenecer pruebas al grupo admin
- Meter en el /etc/sudoers el grupo admin con lo del ALL
- En el bash de pruebas lo de: sudo screen -S Support

Me conecto con el user pruebas y me inicia el screen con la sesión Support.

Hasta ahí, todo bien.

Ahora, inicio, por ejemplo, una sesión con root y hago un: su pruebas -c 
screen -ls

Y me lista la sesión Support.

Pero cuando hago un: su pruebas -c screen -r Support

Me da un error diciendo algo así como:

Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pst/5'. Check

O algo así.

¿Donde me he perdido?

¿Tengo que hacer pertenecer el user pruebas a más grupos?


Saludos y gracias,

Ramses


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Re: Evolution y el Navegador asociado a las URLs

2011-04-22 Thread AngelD

Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Camaleón:


El Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:01:17 +0200, AngelD escribió:


Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Camaleón:



Por lo general el navegador predeterminado viene definido según el
entorno gráfico que uses y se cambia de igual forma, es decir, si
tienes Gnome desde las aplicaciones preferidas, con KDE desde el centro
de control, etc...


En WindowMaker no existe nada parecido. Se supone que las
aplicaciones gnome utilizan las preferencias de gnome, las de kde, 
(esto y el módo de utilizar recursos remotos es lo que más me jode de la
diversidad escritorios). Como Evolution es de gnome, configuré las
preferencias de gnome para que fueran a Firefox, pero el resultado fue
el mismo.


Ya, pero eso te funcionará si estás dentro de GNOME, cuando cargas WM ni
GNOME ni KDE pueden gestionar eso, los archivos que modificas no tienen
ningún efecto.

Tiene que haber alguna forma de decirle a WM qué aplicaciones quieres
cargar... mira, este mensaje te podría dar alguna pista:

Re: No way to set default applications...
http://lists.windowmaker.info/dev/msg00365.html


	Ya veo, utilizando variables de entorno. En cuanto pueda lo pruebo 
y comento el resultado.


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Re: Evolution y el Navegador asociado a las URLs

2011-04-22 Thread AngelD

Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Usuario Debian:


El vie, 22-04-2011 a las 00:01 +0200, AngelD escribió:

Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Camaleón:


El Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:52:41 +0200, AngelD escribió:


En evolution, cuando me llega un correo con un enlace y pincho sobre el,
éste se abre en una ventana de terminal y elinks.

He tocado todo lo que se me ha ocurrido, realizando un
update-alternatives --config x-www-browser, cambiando la aplicación
preferida en gnome-control-center, pero sigue sin hacerme caso,
abriendo los enlaces en elinks.

He intentado buscar la referencia a elinks en todos los ficheros
de configuración que se me han ocurrido, y el resultado ha sido nulo.

¿Dónde está la maldita referencia para poder cambiarla?.


¿Y sólo te pasa con Evolution o con cualquier aplicación?


Sólo intento abrir los enlaces http que vienen con el evolution.
No necesito abrir enlaces desde ninguna otra aplicación. En cuanto vuelva
a la máquina (dentro de unos días), hago las pruebas.


Por lo general el navegador predeterminado viene definido según el
entorno gráfico que uses y se cambia de igual forma, es decir, si tienes
Gnome desde las aplicaciones preferidas, con KDE desde el centro de
control, etc...


En WindowMaker no existe nada parecido. Se supone que las
aplicaciones gnome utilizan las preferencias de gnome, las de kde, 
(esto y el módo de utilizar recursos remotos es lo que más me jode de la
diversidad escritorios). Como Evolution es de gnome, configuré las
preferencias de gnome para que fueran a Firefox, pero el resultado fue el
mismo.


¿Tenías windowmaker, no? :-?


Sip. Alguién tiene que seguir probando un entorno que lleva años
sin evolucionar. :-DD


Solo un apunte,, existe un fork de WindowMaker para su continuación!!!


	Desconocía de su [1]existencia, y ya lo estoy probando. No parece 
que haya grandes cambios respecto a la versión normal, sino un intento 
de mantener solucionar algunos pequeños problemas y errores.


 [1]http://repo.or.cz/w/wmaker-crm.git

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Re: Hilo Nuevo. Servidores en Debian

2011-04-22 Thread Tio Oscar
El 22 de abril de 2011 02:25, BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org escribió:

 On Viernes 22 Abril 2011 06:56:24 Tio Oscar escribió:
 aupa:

  Lo que si podés hacer como salida rapida a esto, es pedir una maquina
  de bajos recursos (una viejita que ande, o una nueva no muy poderosa
  tipo atom) y montar un firewall, poniéndolo adelante en la red, de esa
  forma puedes natear o proxear (vervos del oficio) los servicios hacia
  los servidores y maquinas ya existentes, por ejemplo, internet podria
  recaer en este FW y de ahí ir al resto de las maquinas, el pueto 80
  por ejemplo natearlo al 80 de la maquina con win y de esa forma el
  server seguiria andando pero desde atras de una maquina con Debian
  (segura).

 Una muy buena solución es soekris. Diseñado especificamente para esto del
 firewall.

 http://soekris.com/

 nosotros la usabamos con openbsd, las reglas de filtrado son mucho más
 faciles
 que con iptables. Y es mas seguro que debian

  :wq!

 ZZ

 :-)

 Un saludo

 BasaBuru


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Yo hace muchos años atras usaba Coyote[1], que era un distro especializada
para firewall y tenia la ventaja de arrancar en desde un disquete, sin
disco, (en esas epocas las live no existian), asi que una mother, ram, 2
placas de red y una disquetera y teníamos un firewall, fácil de configurar y
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se me quedo como vieja la distro, jeje, hasta esta Flisol donde me
comentaron que tenían un coyotelinux andando (desde livecd), la verdad ahora
no se como andará pero en su epoca era un cañito.

1: http://www.coyotelinux.com/

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Re: Cambiar el parámetro dpi del servidor X.

2011-04-22 Thread AngelD

Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Camaleón:


El Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:37:32 +0200, AngelD escribió:


Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Camaleón:



¿Por qué no quieres tocar los archivos de configuración de xorg? :-?


Si se ha eliminado la configuración del teclado de éste fichero,
se podrán elininar otras configuraciones.


No entiendo... aún sigue siendo posible configurar manualmente los
parámetros de Xorg mediante el (o los) archivo de configuración. No se ha
eliminado nada :-?


De nuevo te digo que de eso se encarga el entorno gráfico, y si tienes
window maker, tendrás que o bien configurarlo desde ahí (si WM lo
permite) o bien tirar de xorg :-P


No lo permite, y la idea es tirar de Xorg sin xorg.conf


Pus si WM no lo permite y no quieres tirar de Xorg ¿cómo piensas
hacerlo? :-)


En GNOME lo puedes definir desde el editor de configuración (clave: /
desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi valor: 96) pero ya te digo,
¿respetará/aplicará WM esta configuración?


No, no la respeta.


Otra opción sería intentar pasarle el parámetro al iniciarlo, p. ej.,
con startx:


No es una opción.


¿Por algún motivo en concreto?


	No utiliza startx. Logearme en consola para lanzar el entorno 
gráfico no es una opción que me resulte válida.



Tiene que haber algún archivo en WM donde se pueda definir los parámetros
de inicio y por ende, establecer el valor del dpi.


	Esto lo hace gdm3, pero no encuentro por ningún lado donde poner 
los parámetros. Si miro la línea que lanza gdm3 dice:


 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -audit 0 -novtswitch -auth 
/var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-xu6F5e/database -nolisten tcp vt8


pero, ¿dónde están definidos éstos?.

No los encuantro ni en /etc ni en /var/lib/gdm3 (home de gdm3).
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RE:mensajeria instantanea modo texto

2011-04-22 Thread shinallami shinallami
hola  amigos .
estoy probando la mensajería instantánea en modo texto para eso instale
finch ,
que según tengo entendido es pidgin desde consola o algo así el punto es que
cuando me conecto me  sale  este  mensaje  y no se a que se refiere.
si alguien  sabe  puede  ayudarme ?


RE: mensajería instantánea modo texto

2011-04-22 Thread shinallami shinallami
│hola  amigos .
estoy probando la mensajería instantánea en modo texto para eso instale
finch ,
que según tengo entendido es pidgin desde consola o algo así el punto es que
cuando me conecto me  sale  este  mensaje

(Finch:2001): pidgin-libnotify-plugin-DEBUG: Successfully wrote blacklist
file to
/home/himer/.config/indicators/messages/applications-blacklist/pidgin-libnotify

 y no se a que se refiere.
si alguien  sabe  puede  ayudarme ?


Re: OpenOffice 3.3 [desẗrolliandonos]

2011-04-22 Thread Juan Wifi
El viernes 22 de abril de 2011, BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org escribió:
 On Viernes 22 Abril 2011 15:16:05 Ismael L. Donis García escribió:

 Habla inglés, es yanky y no simpatiza con los *.cu
 --

Este comentario fue una tremenda estupidez. Ahora, los cubanos no se
quejen, ya que la mayoría de las páginas que no pueden acceder están
bloqueadas desde de tro de Cuba y no desde afuera, son ustedes que no
pueden salir y no que  contenido no pueda entrar. Nada mas lejano de
mi intención que dedendar a los yankees, que no se malinterprete.
Saludos
Juan


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Re: OpenOffice 3.3

2011-04-22 Thread Roberto Quiñones
El día 20 de abril de 2011 21:44, consul tores
consultor...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 19 de abril de 2011 22:31, Alejandro Pando Garate
 constructora.pa...@gmail.com escribió:

 para usuarios inteligentes

 Reflautas... mañana mismo me hago un test de inteligencia... ¿cuanto CI
 se exige?


 Hola Alejandro Pando

 Como facilmente te daras cuenta, tu hablas otro lenguaje; dices en
 otro correo cuando inicio debian en forma libre de fallos o algo
 asi; tambien dices Cuanto CI se exige; otra persona dira  en nombre
 de la lista, otro mas dira esta es una lista de ayuda y asi hasta
 el infinito.

 Este lenguaje, se conoce como NO inteligente o ausente de sentido comun.

 Desde hace varios anos, tu actitud ha sido siempre de lamentaciones y
 quejas, de hecho te quejas por lo que no es tuyo, y por todo; tal
 parece que hechas de menos tu windows, usas expresiones que se usan en
 windows pero no en Debian arrancar a prueba de fallos,

 No te es posible usar el sentido comun ni la inteligencia, debido a
 que solo repites todo lo que has escuchado sin ni siquiera revisarlo;
 hablas de respeto y mandas spam como se te antoja; pretendes que los
 demas te obedezcan, como si eso fuera posible; hablas de insultos, y
 no tienes ni idea de lo que es eso (o acaso no es un insulto a la
 inteligencia quejarse de Debian y seguirse sirviendo de el?; hablas
 de moderador, con la insana idea de promoverlo, es que te hace falta
 quien te diga que debes hacer?; en fin, actualmente, tenemos en la
 lista un nivel bajo de inteligencia verdadera y tambien de sentido
 comun. Si queremos cambiar el todo, cambiemos primero las partes!



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Cual es la idea de seguir algo que ya trilla!! de verdad si los que
tuvieron disposición de ayudar contestaron la duda del usuario, cual
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principal que es responde runa simple duda y ayuda, el que encuentra
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punto-

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Re: Placa Atheros como AP

2011-04-22 Thread Moksha Tux
Q

Em 22 de abril de 2011 02:18, tux tux_lit...@yahoo.com escreveu:

 Em Sexta-feira 22 Abril 2011, às 00:50:28, Moksha Tux escreveu:
  Querido Hélio muito obrigado pela resposta!
 
  observando a leitura do arquivo que vc me orientou primeiramente aparece
  isso:
 
  pr 20 13:42:01 router kernel: [222653.554393] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:42:44 router kernel: [222696.003130] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:42:52 router kernel: [222704.699810] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:42:52 router kernel: [222704.763835] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:43:24 router kernel: [222736.678546] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:43:27 router kernel: [222739.618334] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:43:37 router kernel: [222749.741859] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:48:20 router kernel: [223032.507520] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
 
 
  depois aparece isso:
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] [ cut here
  ]
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] WARNING: at
  net/sched/sch_generic.c:222 dev_watchdog+0xa6/0xfb()
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] Modules linked in:
 wlan_wep
  bridge wlan_scan_ap ipt_REDIRECT ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat nf_nat
  nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_conntrack iptable_filter xt_TCPMSS xt_tcpmss
 xt_tcpudp
  iptable_mangle ip_tables x_tables pppoe pppox ppp_generic slhc ipv6 loop
  wlan_scan_sta ath_rate_sample ath_pci wlan ath_hal(P) parport_pc parport
  snd_pcsp k8temp shpchp pci_hotplug snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec ac97_bus
  snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc button i2c_nforce2
 i2c_core
  evdev ext3 jbd mbcache ide_cd_mod cdrom ide_disk ata_generic sata_nv
 libata
  scsi_mod dock 3c59x mii ide_pci_generic amd74xx ide_core forcedeth
 ehci_hcd
  ohci_hcd thermal processor fan thermal_sys [last unloaded:
 scsi_wait_scan]
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] Pid: 0, comm: swapper
  Tainted: P  2.6.26-2-amd64 #1
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] Call Trace:
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  IRQ
  [80234958]
  warn_on_slowpath+0x51/0x7a
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [a01f870f]
 
  :ath_hal:zz00057cd9+0x150/0x15f
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [a01e3e33]
 
  :ath_hal:ath_hal_process_noisefloor+0x14d/0x2fa1
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [a01e3c91]
 
  :ath_hal:zz7c1a+0x1d/0x72
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [a02953d3]
 
  :ath_pci:ath_set_ack_bitrate+0x226/0x233
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [a0276b13]
 
  :ath_pci:ath_reset+0x2c8/0x314
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [803ccc32]
  dev_watchdog+0x0/0xfb
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [803cccd8]
  dev_watchdog+0xa6/0xfb
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [803ccc32]
  dev_watchdog+0x0/0xfb
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8023ca01]
  run_timer_softirq+0x16a/0x1e2
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [802393cd]
  __do_softirq+0x5c/0xd1
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8020d2dc]
  call_softirq+0x1c/0x28
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8020f3e8]
  do_softirq+0x3c/0x81
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8023932b]
  irq_exit+0x3f/0x85
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8021aaab]
  smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x8c/0xa4
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8020b0ae]
  default_idle+0x0/0x46
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8020cd02]
  apic_timer_interrupt+0x72/0x80
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  EOI
  [8021a857]
  lapic_next_event+0x0/0x13
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8021eb64]
  native_safe_halt+0x2/0x3
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8020b0d8]
  default_idle+0x2a/0x46
 
  e em seguida fica tudo assim:
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] ---[ end trace
  6ab9d78664740dd3 ]---
  Apr 20 22:40:42 router kernel: [254974.816007] NETDEV WATCHDOG: wifi0:
  transmit timed out
  Apr 20 22:40:52 router kernel: [254984.816008] NETDEV WATCHDOG: wifi0:
  transmit timed out
  Apr 20 22:41:02 router kernel: [254994.816007] NETDEV WATCHDOG: wifi0:
  transmit timed out
  Apr 20 22:41:17 router kernel: [255009.816007] NETDEV WATCHDOG: 

Re: Placa Atheros como AP

2011-04-22 Thread Moksha Tux
Querido Tux!

Muito obrigado pela sua ajuda e resposta ,vou prosseguir com as suas
sugestões pra ver se dá certo. quanto ao hostapd eu tentei inúmeros
tutoriais da rede e não fui bem sucedido em nenhum, me parece ser um
conjunto de coisas que terei que obedecer cada passo. Vc teria algum
tutorial em que vc mesmo tenha usado no seu ambiente e que esteja em
produção agora? Agradeceria muito essa ajuda. Abraços,

Moksha

Em 22 de abril de 2011 02:18, tux tux_lit...@yahoo.com escreveu:

 Em Sexta-feira 22 Abril 2011, às 00:50:28, Moksha Tux escreveu:
  Querido Hélio muito obrigado pela resposta!
 
  observando a leitura do arquivo que vc me orientou primeiramente aparece
  isso:
 
  pr 20 13:42:01 router kernel: [222653.554393] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:42:44 router kernel: [222696.003130] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:42:52 router kernel: [222704.699810] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:42:52 router kernel: [222704.763835] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:43:24 router kernel: [222736.678546] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:43:27 router kernel: [222739.618334] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:43:37 router kernel: [222749.741859] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
  Apr 20 13:48:20 router kernel: [223032.507520] UDP: bad checksum. From
  186.214.57.238:33622 to 187.14.17.118:61642 ulen 1446
 
 
  depois aparece isso:
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] [ cut here
  ]
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] WARNING: at
  net/sched/sch_generic.c:222 dev_watchdog+0xa6/0xfb()
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] Modules linked in:
 wlan_wep
  bridge wlan_scan_ap ipt_REDIRECT ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat nf_nat
  nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_conntrack iptable_filter xt_TCPMSS xt_tcpmss
 xt_tcpudp
  iptable_mangle ip_tables x_tables pppoe pppox ppp_generic slhc ipv6 loop
  wlan_scan_sta ath_rate_sample ath_pci wlan ath_hal(P) parport_pc parport
  snd_pcsp k8temp shpchp pci_hotplug snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec ac97_bus
  snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc button i2c_nforce2
 i2c_core
  evdev ext3 jbd mbcache ide_cd_mod cdrom ide_disk ata_generic sata_nv
 libata
  scsi_mod dock 3c59x mii ide_pci_generic amd74xx ide_core forcedeth
 ehci_hcd
  ohci_hcd thermal processor fan thermal_sys [last unloaded:
 scsi_wait_scan]
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] Pid: 0, comm: swapper
  Tainted: P  2.6.26-2-amd64 #1
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002] Call Trace:
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  IRQ
  [80234958]
  warn_on_slowpath+0x51/0x7a
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [a01f870f]
 
  :ath_hal:zz00057cd9+0x150/0x15f
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [a01e3e33]
 
  :ath_hal:ath_hal_process_noisefloor+0x14d/0x2fa1
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [a01e3c91]
 
  :ath_hal:zz7c1a+0x1d/0x72
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [a02953d3]
 
  :ath_pci:ath_set_ack_bitrate+0x226/0x233
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [a0276b13]
 
  :ath_pci:ath_reset+0x2c8/0x314
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [803ccc32]
  dev_watchdog+0x0/0xfb
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [803cccd8]
  dev_watchdog+0xa6/0xfb
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [803ccc32]
  dev_watchdog+0x0/0xfb
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8023ca01]
  run_timer_softirq+0x16a/0x1e2
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [802393cd]
  __do_softirq+0x5c/0xd1
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8020d2dc]
  call_softirq+0x1c/0x28
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8020f3e8]
  do_softirq+0x3c/0x81
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8023932b]
  irq_exit+0x3f/0x85
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8021aaab]
  smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x8c/0xa4
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8020b0ae]
  default_idle+0x0/0x46
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8020cd02]
  apic_timer_interrupt+0x72/0x80
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  EOI
  [8021a857]
  lapic_next_event+0x0/0x13
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8021eb64]
  native_safe_halt+0x2/0x3
  Apr 20 22:40:32 router kernel: [254964.820002]  [8020b0d8]
  default_idle+0x2a/0x46
 
  e em seguida fica tudo assim:
 
  Apr 20 22:40:32 

Re: Wireless kurulum desteği

2011-04-22 Thread Ramazan Gürbüz

Merhaba yeniden,

Özellikle firmware-iwlwifi paketinin yüklü olduğuna emin misiniz 
acaba? Gözünüzden kaçmış olabilir çünkü şu aşağıdaki adrese bakarsanız 
aynı hatayı bu paketi kurmadığı için almışlar.


http://doctus.org/showthread.php?t=50676

firmware-iwlwifi paketini yüklemek için squeeze main contrib non-free 
depolarının da aktif olması gerekiyor. Yani


/etc/apt/sources.list dosyası içerisinde

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free

depolarıda görünmeli (başında # işareti varsa kaldırın). Sonra sudo 
yüklenmişse;


sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi

Sudo kullanmıyorsanız da:

su
apt-get update
apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi

dediğinizde aynı yolla ya da belki fazladan bir şey yapmanıza gerek 
kalmadan wireless'ınızı kullanabilmeniz lazım.




21-04-2011 16:20, Mehmet AK yazmış:

Selam . aşağıda en son sonuçlar mevcut

mehmetak:/home/mehmet# modprobe iwlagn
mehmetak:/home/mehmet# iwconfig
lo no wireless extensions.

eth0 no wireless extensions.

wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:off/any
Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=0 dBm
Retry long limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Encryption key:off
Power Management:off
pan0 no wireless extensions.

vboxnet0 no wireless extensions.

mehmetak:/home/mehmet# ifconfig wlan0 up
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Böyle bir dosya ya da dizin yok


  Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:18:57 +0300
  From: rama...@evdoxia.net
  To: debian-user-turkish@lists.debian.org
  CC: ak.meh...@windowslive.com
  Subject: Re: virtualBox kurulum hakkında yardım isteği
 
  Merhaba,
 
  Intel marka bir wireless kartınız varsa ışık yansada sürücüleri
  yüklemeden çalışmayacaktır. Bunun için öncelikle:
 
  apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi wireless-tools
 
  ile iwlang yüklemesi yapmanız lazım. Gerekli kernel modülü
  yüklenecektir ama eğer aktifleşmiyorsa:
 
  modprobe iwlagn
 
  ile çalıştırabilirsiniz. Daha sonra,
 
  iwconfig
 
  ile de çalışıp çalışmadığını görebilirsiniz. Sürücü bilgileri görünmeli
  bu komut ile. Diyelim ki bu çıktıda wlan0 altında bilgiler görüyorsunuz.
  Bu durumda da,
 
  ifconfig wlan0 up
 
  dediğinizde wireless kartınızın artık çalışıyor olması gerek.
 
 
  20-04-2011 18:40, Mehmet AK yazmış:
   Selam .
  
   lenny den Squeze upgrade yapmıştım ve Grub açılışına liste olarak en
   başta eski sürüm geliyormuş dikkat etmemiştim. Upgrade edilen çekirdek
   üzerinden açılınca virtualbox kullanmaya başladım.
  
   Yılın Acemi Debian cısı olarak ilan ediyorum kendimi
  
   bir arkadaşın lenova notebook üzerine debian kurdum. wireless ayarları
   için gerekli olan programları yükledim
  
   donanımsal olarak wireless ışığı açık olmasına rağmen yazılımda offline
   görünüyor.
  
   yardımlarınız için şimdiden teşekkür ederim
  
   Allah işlerinizde kolaylıklar versin
  
   İyi çalışmalar
  
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 15:30:19 +0300
From: goksin.akde...@gmail.com
To: debian-user-turkish@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: virtualBox kurulum hakkında yardım isteği
   
16/04/2011 13:06, Mehmet AK yazmış:
 kernel headers paketini kurmak istediğimde şöyle bir hata mesajı
 alıyorum malesef :(

 mehmetak:/home/mehmet# apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64
 E: Couldn't find any package by regex
   'linux-headers-2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64'
 mehmetak:/home/mehmet# ;

   
bpo gördüğümde aklıma backports.org geliyor. Aratınca Debian eski
kararlı sürümü olan lenny için hazırlınamış olan backports paketleri
geldi. Arkadaş Lenny ve resmi depolar yanında backports.org deposunu
kullanıyor sanırım.
   
Lenny kullanmak yerine Squeeze karalı sürümüne terfi edip depodan
güncel
bir Virtualbox sürümü kurabilirsiniz. işiniz daha kolay olur.
   
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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light?

2011-04-22 Thread James Robertson
I'm taking a stab in the dark here (pun intended)...

do you happen to have a /run directory?

I had some issues with devices not being detected on boot recently which
turned out to be related to udev attempting to read from /run.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621036

In my case I removed /run and everything was back to normal.  If you have no
/run then sorry for the dull response :)


Re: uid gid problem restoring ubuntu made backup to new squeeze install

2011-04-22 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 21. 04. 2011 23:36:55 je Juan R. de Silva napisal(a):

I'm in the process of moving from Ubuntu to Debian. I've installed
squeeze and want to restore some of 2 users home files and directories
from a backup made in Ubuntu. There are also some files from /etc  
needed

to be restored.

I preserved the user names for both of users in a new squeeze
installation but UID and GID are different.


How different? In Debian, the user numbers start at 1000 and go  
upwards. The user 1000 will be the first user you created (usually gets  
created during the installation of the OS). Then, once your OS is up  
and running, you can create new users with the GUI tool or with issuing  
the command 'adduser' (you must have root privileges to do that). The  
new users will start at 1001, then go to 1002, 1003 and so on. So just  
by creating them in a convenient order, you may get the UIDs you want  
(assuming that Ubuntu uses the same numbering schema, i.e. starting  
from 1000 up).


If Ubuntu uses another schema (say, from  down), the 'adduser --uid  
100x' form should help. If you've just created your Debian users, then  
nothing will be lost by deleting them by issuing 'deluser  
--remove-all-files', and creating them from scratch with either of the  
methods above. Once you get your uids straight, you can start copying  
over the contents of the Ubuntu home dirs to Debian. Personally, I  
wouldn't copy them in bulk -- there's bound to be some useless cruft  
and old leftovers there. I'd copy them subdir by subdir, as needed. For  
example,after installing Wine, I'd copy over their respective .wine  
subdirs; and so on.



So, by simply using 'cp -
a' (or rsync) I would run into problem of their mismatch.

Is there a simple and quick way to resolve it or I'll have to go  
trough

this mess manually one step at a time?

I know I could change UID and GID in Debian to Ubuntu values but I am
quite reluctant to go this way.

Thank you.


HTH

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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light?

2011-04-22 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk 
wrote:
 My HP laptop tends to boot with a dim screen. I can fix this with

   echo 10  /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness

 which I run from /etc/rc,local.


the right way would be to use sysctl. that said, i always do things
the way you've done it :)

 It works well with all kernels up to 2.6.37. With 2.6.38 there is
 usually no /sys/devices/virtual/backlight... so the above command
 can't work.


i'd check the kernel changelog or maybe the debian kernel package
changelog and see if something was changed for sysfs and see why. i'm
not sure whether this line of question is appropriate for that forum,
but if it is, someone on debian-dev should know. (reading through the
archives, they seem to be hard asses on topicality, so i'd do my
research first). also, you could try to ask on irc in #kernel

 What is really odd is that if I first boot with a 2.6.37 kernel and then
 reboot with a 2.6.38 version, everything works correctly. The file I
 need to modify is there and there is full brightness.


iirc, this is stored in ram. i'll bet if you booted in the one kernel,
and then did a shutdown -h and immediately powered up into the newer
kernel, you'd notice a fail. that said, i think this is improper
behavior. you didn't mention what version of debian you're running?
ie, i don't think this happens onstable (than again, i'm only on .32,
so...)

 Is this perhaps something to do with udev?  I've found ubuntu bug
 reports describing somewhat similar problems but mostly with backlight
 being too bright rather than too dim.


i would think it is more in the kernel than in udev. (i think udev
gets its info from sysfs and proc - that's probably a bad way of
stating this though. it's fron the kernel at any rate)

 I would make a bug report if I knew which package was at fault. Can
 anyone shed any light (literally)? It's an annoyance rather than a major
 problem but I've been trying to figure it out for at least two weeks
 wthout success,


this does sound like a bug. it's at least an issue with some default
config. if you can, swap out discs and do a fresh install and see what
happens. i'm pretty sure you'll notice the same thing. however, that
would be the right thing to do before putting in a bug report (and it
would be great of you to follow up on this - helps the community and
all)


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Re: pci 0000:01:00.0: BAR 6: no parent found for of device [0xfffe0000-0xffffffff]

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:06:14 +0700, Hoang Le wrote:

(sorry for the delay, I've been a bit overflowed at work)

 How can I know what package the bug belongs to? For now, all I know is
 that that message can be found in kern.log file

I'd say those messages come from kernel, so running the command I said 
before (dpkg -l | grep linux-image) should be enough to fill the bug 
report :-)

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Re: Remove an Always Trust permission from OpenJDK/IcedTea Plugin

2011-04-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:57 PM, adris adr...@t-online.de wrote:
 Hi,

 thanks for the help.

 Am Montag, den 18.04.2011, 20:34 +0900 schrieb Joel Rees:
 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:06 PM, adris adr...@t-online.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  how can you undo the permission Always Trust this Publisher, once you
  checked that box for a signed applet in Iceweasel.

 (Shooting from the hip, here, but, ...) I think the quickest way is to
 remove the corresponding certificate.

 You go to the settings item in the edit menu, I don't remember the
 name of the group in English, but it should be something like
 miscellaneous or high-level or advanced or something. It's not in the
 security, contents, program, or privacy group, where you might expect
 it.

I'm logged into an English session now and here's where it is:

Edit menu - Preferences - Advanced - (button) View Certificates

There also buttons there for revocation lists and validation, which
you might be interested in, and security devices.

 I also first thought that this certificate got installed in Iceaweasel,
 but I did not find it listed among all the available options.

You say options, does that mean you did or did not find the browser
certificate store dialog?

(I'm trying to remember the pseudo-url for getting at the browser's
settings that it doesn't expose via GUI interfaces, and it's not
coming t mind.)

 I just gave it a try and removed the whole ~/.mozilla folder.
 Nevertheless this certificated still seems to be trusted.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that would not work. Even though the dialog is
the browser's, the certificate store is not. I'm trying to remember
what is where, though and I'm drawing blanks. I hate getting old.

 Therefore I think that the certificate is marked trusted by OpenJDK.
 But I'm unable to find the default keystore.

Have you tried installing the openJDK Policy Tool (GUI) and/or
Monitoring and Management Console (JConsole)?

 It should be possible to add and remove trusted certificates with the
 keytool command, but I have to specify the keystore.

 Any idea where OpenJDK might have it's default keystore?
 Or am I looking the wrong way at that problem?

I think the policy tool can tell you what it's using. Then again, I
thnk the command line policy tool should use the default if it's going
to use the default.

Gnome has its own keystore, for what it's worth.

Sorry I'm not much help today.


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Re: firefox gimp buttons missing - gtk issue?

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:12:03 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:

 Sven Joachim wrote: SJ On 2011-04-11 20:06 +0200,
 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:12:40 +, i'll teach you to turn away.
 wrote:
 hi guys. i'm having some trouble with what appears to be a gtk issue
 with firefox  gimp. in short, buttons are missing. the firefox one
 is
 Missing icons
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629878 Missing icons with
 gtk+-2.22
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=621962
 SJ Almost surely yes.  This has also been reported in the Debian BTS
 SJ already: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=597694.
 SJ
 SJ See the end of the bug log for a workaround that yours truly has SJ
 chosen.
 
   yes, i found those bug reports... but there's no mention of gimp
 being affected. i'm REALLY loathe to install more gnome stuff if it's
 not going to solve all of the issues.

Installing the suggested package will not have any bad consequences (it 
will take about ~10 MiB of disk space but nothing more).

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Re: File a Bug Against GlobalMenu or Guayadeque?

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:08:52 -0700, Freeman wrote:

 In Guayadeque 0.2.9, the file menu is not present when gnome globalmenu
 0.7.9 packages are installed.
 
 How can I decide or diagnose which package has the bug?

Don't bother about that, just report against the more natural one 
(Guayadeque) and let devels decide if it fits in another place.

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BUG DOSEMU I can't understand this but still exist

2011-04-22 Thread lemonnier
Hello Sir
I don't understand that Debian provides version
of dosemu_1.4.0
+svn.1999-2_i386.deb in stable packages.
So many people have found a bug with the
programs written in PASCALPrograms developed for
the real mode in turbo pascal work correctly.

But programs developed in 16-bit protected
(DPMI) don't work.


I have tried this version on dosemu with
different configarations of
ubuntu and it never works in Turbo Pascal

Can you tell me where does the bug come and in
any case dosemu_1.4.0
+svn.1999-2_i386.deb is not stable dosemu

Sincerely
Patrice Lemonnier




Programs developed for the real mode in turbo
pascal work correctly.

But programs developed in 16-bit protected
(DPMI) don't work.




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Re: file systems

2011-04-22 Thread PMA

Wonder if Reiser's FS inspired his decision where to stash his wife.


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Re: file systems

2011-04-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:34:24 +1000, Andrew wrote in message 
4db04070.1030...@affinityvision.com.au:

 Hi,
 
 Heddle Weaver wrote:
  *http://tinyurl.com/3tu3ww9
 
 That's a pretty old reference, but an interesting read.
 
 Important note:
 These tests were done with a 2.4 kernel. They should be repeated to
 see if they still apply with modern 2.6.18+ kernels in use today.
 
 
  *And this example is somewhat dated, but illustrates one such
  instance:*
  
  **http://tinyurl.com/3qjtj82
 
 That's pretty old too but to me seems much less worthwhile reading.
 
 In any case, I would say that both of those references are too old to
 be of much real use to any argument today.
 

..I've had about half a dozen crashes on ext3 where the journal 
was written to disk but not the data, so the journal trashed my 
old data that were gone according to the journal, on the next 
fsck.  

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Re: file systems

2011-04-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:14:32 -0700, prad wrote in message 
87bozzfmcn@towardsfreedom.com:

 Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes:
 
  prad put forth on 4/20/2011 11:43 PM:
 
  we want to run our servers through virtual box off usb drives
  which is a total departure from what we've done over the years. so
  might as well throw in a new fs too. :D
 
  Why USB?
 
 since our volume is pretty small we only require around 10G.

..hum, small enough for ramdisk. ;o)

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Re: BUG DOSEMU I can't understand this but still exist

2011-04-22 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 22, 2011 8:45 AM, lemonnier p.lemonni...@free.fr wrote:


Programs developed for the real mode in turbo
pascal work correctly.

But programs developed in 16-bit protected
(DPMI) don't work.

I'm not sure what the difference between turbo pascal and any other version
is. However, what its saying is that you can't write to OS memory within
dosemu (with pascal?). So, if you try to access dma address space (or maybe
even elevate to a higher ring of the processor) it will fail.

Someone here might be able to give you better feedback. However I'd suggest
you look for a dosemu mailing list or other forum for that discussion.


Re: X EDID reads fail after recent sid update

2011-04-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:21:17 +0200, Sven wrote in message 
87ipu8ch82@turtle.gmx.de:

 On 2011-04-21 05:54 +0200, Joe Neal wrote:
 
  I recently upgraded my sid box with a Gforce 8600.  Following a
  reboot the binary nvidia drivers would only give me a screen
  resolution so small it was unusable and nouveau failed to find any
  usable resolutions at all.  Analysis of recent X logs indicated
  that in the case of both drivers, EDID reads were failing,
  providing X with no data.  When testing with a GRML live CD, EDID
  data was returned using nouveau, so this isn't a hardware problem.  
 
  Since the problem occurs with both nvidia drivers, it's not a driver
  problem.  Since EDID reads work properly with the GRML live CD it's
  not a hardware problem.  I don't think any X packages have been
  upgraded at all since the last boot that could have caused the
  problem.  I'm at a loss as to where the problem is coming from.
 
  Any guesses?
 
 I don't really have an idea myself, but some people reported a problem
 with corrupted EDID on
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34554. The information
 in that bug may be useful.
 
 Sven
 
 

..in WAG mode, I use radeon on all my graphics HW, and have these on my 
lab laptop (or labtop ;o)), you want ditto for nouveau, or use nvidea:
arnt@celsius:~/Documents$ dpkg -l |grep radeon |fmt -tu
ii libdrm-radeon1 2.4.25-1 Userspace interface to radeon-specific kernel
   DRM services -- runtime
ii radeontool 1.6.1-1 utility to control ATI Radeon backlight functions
   on laptops
ii xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.14.1-1+exp1 X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI
   Radeon display driver
arnt@celsius:~/Documents$ dpkg -l |grep drm |fmt -tu
ii libdrm-intel1 2.4.25-1 Userspace interface to intel-specific kernel
   DRM services -- runtime
rc libdrm-nouveau1 2.4.22-2 Userspace interface to nouveau-specific
   kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii libdrm-nouveau1a 2.4.25-1 Userspace interface to nouveau-specific
   kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii libdrm-radeon1 2.4.25-1 Userspace interface to radeon-specific kernel
   DRM services -- runtime
ii libdrm2 2.4.25-1 Userspace interface to kernel DRM services --
   runtime 
rc plymouth-drm 0.8.3-18 Graphical Boot Animation and Logger (DRM) 
arnt@celsius:~/Documents$ 


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Re: uid gid problem restoring ubuntu made backup to new squeeze install

2011-04-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:36:55 + (UTC), Juan wrote in message 
ioq81m$v83$1...@dough.gmane.org:

 I'm in the process of moving from Ubuntu to Debian. I've installed 
 squeeze and want to restore some of 2 users home files and
 directories from a backup made in Ubuntu. There are also some files
 from /etc needed to be restored.
 
 I preserved the user names for both of users in a new squeeze 
 installation but UID and GID are different. So, by simply using 'cp -
 a' (or rsync) I would run into problem of their mismatch.
 
 Is there a simple and quick way to resolve it or I'll have to go
 trough this mess manually one step at a time?
 
 I know I could change UID and GID in Debian to Ubuntu values but I am 
 quite reluctant to go this way.

..read output of 'chown --help '. ;o)

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Re: powerdown harddisk

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:06:33 -0700, geertsky wrote:

 I want to powerdown my ide harddisk completly. I'm booting from a usb
 stick so the IDE disk is CONSUMING... I have an old laptop so I'd like
 to preserver as much as possible.
 
 I tried hdparm -Y /dev/sda but hdparm -C /dev/sda reports it's only in
 standby...
 And actually I can hear it spinning... It must be possible to power it
 down completly no?
 
 Any ideas?

How about unmounting the device?

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Re: powerdown harddisk

2011-04-22 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List,

On 22/04/11 16:25, Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:06:33 -0700, geertsky wrote:


I want to powerdown my ide harddisk completly. I'm booting from a usb
stick so the IDE disk is CONSUMING... I have an old laptop so I'd like
to preserver as much as possible.

I tried hdparm -Y /dev/sda but hdparm -C /dev/sda reports it's only in
standby...
And actually I can hear it spinning... It must be possible to power it
down completly no?

Any ideas?


How about unmounting the device?


powertop may give some hints.

hth
Jerome



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Re: Please recommend an external HDD enclosure

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:12:50 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:

 I made the mistake of purchasing an external HDD enclosure without
 researching first. The enclosure wouldn't be recognized in Debian
 Squeeze or Wheezy with errors that are not relevant since I've returned
 it to the shop.

(...)

I've had no problems with any of my hdd external cases so may I ask you 
about brand and model of yours?

Anyway, you can get some useful feedback from New Egg's users comments:

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=92name=External-Enclosures

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Re: taskbar is missing

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:33:46 +0200, Engi Zoltán wrote:

 I upgraded to Debian 6.0. After upgrading the taskbar is missing. I can
 get back it with killall gnome-panel command.
 
 What is wrong?

Try by login with another user and check if the error persists. 

Sometimes GNOME settings are badly messed up after performing an upgrade 
(usually involving some core components) and a new and clean environment 
solves the problem.

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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light?

2011-04-22 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 22 Apr 2011, James Robertson wrote:
I'm taking a stab in the dark here (pun intended)...
do you happen to have a /run directory?
I had some issues with devices not being detected on boot recently which
turned out to be related to udev attempting to read from /run.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621036
In my case I removed /run and everything was back to normal. A If you have
no /run then sorry for the dull response :)

Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately I don't have /run so it
isn't that in my case.

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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light?

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:14:35 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:

 My HP laptop tends to boot with a dim screen. 

(...)

Hum... some of the new HP notebooks have a sensor that automatically 
adjusts the brightness of the screen depending on the ambient light. This 
can be turned off in windows but I dunno if there is such utility for 
linux :-?

What video driver are you loading?

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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light?

2011-04-22 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 22 Apr 2011, shawn wilson wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk 
 wrote:
  My HP laptop tends to boot with a dim screen. I can fix this with
 
    echo 10  /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
 
  which I run from /etc/rc,local.
 
 
 the right way would be to use sysctl. that said, i always do things
 the way you've done it :)
 
  It works well with all kernels up to 2.6.37. With 2.6.38 there is
  usually no /sys/devices/virtual/backlight... so the above command
  can't work.
 
 
 i'd check the kernel changelog or maybe the debian kernel package
 changelog and see if something was changed for sysfs and see why. i'm
 not sure whether this line of question is appropriate for that forum,
 but if it is, someone on debian-dev should know. (reading through the
 archives, they seem to be hard asses on topicality, so i'd do my
 research first). also, you could try to ask on irc in #kernel
 
  What is really odd is that if I first boot with a 2.6.37 kernel and then
  reboot with a 2.6.38 version, everything works correctly. The file I
  need to modify is there and there is full brightness.
 
 
 iirc, this is stored in ram. i'll bet if you booted in the one kernel,
 and then did a shutdown -h and immediately powered up into the newer
 kernel, you'd notice a fail. that said, i think this is improper
 behavior. you didn't mention what version of debian you're running?
 ie, i don't think this happens onstable (than again, i'm only on .32,
 so...)
 
  Is this perhaps something to do with udev?  I've found ubuntu bug
  reports describing somewhat similar problems but mostly with backlight
  being too bright rather than too dim.
 
 
 i would think it is more in the kernel than in udev. (i think udev
 gets its info from sysfs and proc - that's probably a bad way of
 stating this though. it's fron the kernel at any rate)
 
  I would make a bug report if I knew which package was at fault. Can
  anyone shed any light (literally)? It's an annoyance rather than a major
  problem but I've been trying to figure it out for at least two weeks
  wthout success,
 
 
 this does sound like a bug. it's at least an issue with some default
 config. if you can, swap out discs and do a fresh install and see what
 happens. i'm pretty sure you'll notice the same thing. however, that
 would be the right thing to do before putting in a bug report (and it
 would be great of you to follow up on this - helps the community and
 all)
 

Many thanks for these comments. I'll look into the kernel changelog
files though I find them pretty intimidating these days. Time was when I
used to compile my own kernels, but for a long time now I've settled for
a quiet life and just install the standard Debian kernels. But you are
probably right to say that it's a kernel problem. When it goes wrong, it
starts up bright but then goes dim at a certain point in the boot
process. I couldn't see anything in dmesg to explain this but I'll have
another look.

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Re: file systems

2011-04-22 Thread Ron Johnson

On 04/22/2011 08:12 AM, PMA wrote:

Wonder if Reiser's FS inspired his decision where to stash his wife.



In a tree?

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Re: Result of entering 'v' within mutt

2011-04-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110421_173702, Alan McConnell wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:30:38AM -0500, green wrote:
  Alan McConnell wrote at 2011-04-21 09:34 -0500:
   I have looked at /etc/mailcap in my new squeeze, and also
   at the mailcap in my backup of my etc etc.  They seem to be
   different files.  I have greped new-tab in both and 
   it isn't to be found
  
  No, you need to add it.  And the file to edit is probably: ~/.mailcap
  Add a line like:
  text/html; iceweasel -new-tab '%s'; test=test -n $DISPLAY; 
  nametemplate=%s.html
  
  If another text/html; entry exists, you may need to comment (#) it.
Bingo!  I didn't have a .mailcap in my home directory, I
just created it populated with the line above.  And now
my mutt puts the stuff into a Tab just like I wanted.
Mr Green is herewith added to my growing list of Geniuses!
 
 How did you ever know about this, Mr Green?  is this documented anywhere,
 or did you intuit it?  Maybe you are the mutt developer?  You've

FYI

The developer of Mutt is, I believe, Michael Elkins. He is also a regular
poster on the mutt-us...@mutt.org mailing list. 

My attitude towards Mutt and its setting up is conflicted. On the one hand,
I have never made any serious progress on using any other MUA althougn I
have had several bursts of serious effort. On the other hand, I find the
documentation of Mutt difficult to follow. E.G. I find this little exchange
of emails dificult to follow. Apparently you have gotten something working
that previously you had been unable to configure. What exactly, I'm not
sure, but I'm happy for you. For me, being puzzled by Mutt configuration
is part of the human condition ;^)

 certainly added evidence to my claim, made in a different E-mail,
 that E-mail, the killer app, is by no means a piece of cake to
 set up correctly.
 
 Anyway,  many thanks, and I'll pass this along to the mutt E-list.
 
 Greetings to all!
 
 Alan McConnell, in Silver Spring MD
 
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Re: Problem with udev device identification

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:21:41 -0400, Sebastian Lara wrote:

 I have three different serial devices connected to three usb-serial
 converters (FTDI USB-RS232). If I connect them, I get the generic device
 names /dev/ttyUSBx as expected. When I try to write some udev rules,
 udevadm shows me the same output for the three devices except in some
 device serial id attributes.
 
 Those serial id's will change on every device so if I use a different
 usb-serial converter, my rules won't work anymore. So, I need a way to
 communicate with the specific device connected to the serial converters
 and identify it by its response.

(...)

There must be a string that uniquely identifies the converters despite 
the device being attached on them... for instance, how about the serial 
number? This value shouldn't be shared between the tree devices at all :-?

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BUG DOSEMU I can't understand this but still exist

2011-04-22 Thread Frank Miles

Dosemu should work fine with DPMI memory handling - if configured properly.
Have you checked your dosemu.conf for its cpu_emu setting?

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Re: Result of entering 'v' within mutt -- hopefully not too OT

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:19:54 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 02:35:29PM -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:
 Assembled Wisdom!
 
 I have been running mutt for a good many years from with my Debian
 Linux distribution.  A couple of days ago I upgraded from Debian etch
 to Debian squeeze and got mutt 1.5.20.  It has one behavior that I
 don't like and I hope that it can be changed: when I type 'v' within
 mutt I am given a choice of viewing the message within a browser
 window.  My Firefox is almost always open, and previously mutt would
 display the message within a new Tab.  Now a new Firefox Window is
 opened.  I don't like that! Can I change that behaviour e.g. with a
 command in my .muttrc?
   The above is what I posted to the mutt E-list.  I got one person
   who wrote, yeah, I'd like to know that too; but otherwise
   nothing.
 
   Maybe someone here knows something about configuring mutt?
 
   Failing that, how easy is it to go back to an older version of
   mutt?  My mutt on etch always opened a new Tab.  sigh

You mean you want to get rid of the view attachments window? Well, you 
can tweak the way Mutt handles attachments:

http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html

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gpg: copying secret key

2011-04-22 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I created a secret-public key pair for user A in computer P.  It is one
of two key pairs in file $HOME/.gnupg/secring.gpg.

I would like to copy that key-pair for use by user A computer Q, but als
for use of user B in computer Q. (I want to allow both user A and B to
be able to decrypt files in computer Q which were encrypted by user A
using this particular public key in computer P.)

I looked on the gpg manual page, but I could not find a way to do so.
Is it indeed possible to do what I want to do?  If so I would be
grateful to anyone who can tell me how.

Regards, Ken Heard
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Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

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Re: Anyone using recoll in wheezy or sid?

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:20:33 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:

 I have recoll installed on stable, wheezy and sid.  It is working fine
 on stable but on the other two it indexes fine but is not displaying the
 results.  

(...)

Not using recoll here, but there are some bugs for it:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=recoll;dist=unstable

OTOH, take a quick look into the upstream bugs (solved in 1.15.7):

http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/BUGS.html#b_1_15_2

Also, try with a new user, just in case.

 I am looking for a replacement but have yet to find a worthy one.

GNOME and KDE have both very good search desktop engines focused at them, 
Tracker for the former and Strigi/Nepomuk for the latter.

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Re: file systems

2011-04-22 Thread PMA

hmm.  nevermind.

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/22/2011 08:12 AM, PMA wrote:

Wonder if Reiser's FS inspired his decision where to stash his wife.



In a tree?




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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light?

2011-04-22 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 22, 2011 11:06 AM, Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:

 On 22 Apr 2011, shawn wilson wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk
wrote:
   My HP laptop tends to boot with a dim screen. I can fix this with
  
 echo 10  /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
  
   which I run from /etc/rc,local.
  
 
  the right way would be to use sysctl. that said, i always do things
  the way you've done it :)
 
   It works well with all kernels up to 2.6.37. With 2.6.38 there is
   usually no /sys/devices/virtual/backlight... so the above command
   can't work.
  
 
  i'd check the kernel changelog or maybe the debian kernel package
  changelog and see if something was changed for sysfs and see why. i'm
  not sure whether this line of question is appropriate for that forum,
  but if it is, someone on debian-dev should know. (reading through the
  archives, they seem to be hard asses on topicality, so i'd do my
  research first). also, you could try to ask on irc in #kernel
 
   What is really odd is that if I first boot with a 2.6.37 kernel and
then
   reboot with a 2.6.38 version, everything works correctly. The file I
   need to modify is there and there is full brightness.
  
 
  iirc, this is stored in ram. i'll bet if you booted in the one kernel,
  and then did a shutdown -h and immediately powered up into the newer
  kernel, you'd notice a fail. that said, i think this is improper
  behavior. you didn't mention what version of debian you're running?
  ie, i don't think this happens onstable (than again, i'm only on .32,
  so...)
 
   Is this perhaps something to do with udev?  I've found ubuntu bug
   reports describing somewhat similar problems but mostly with backlight
   being too bright rather than too dim.
  
 
  i would think it is more in the kernel than in udev. (i think udev
  gets its info from sysfs and proc - that's probably a bad way of
  stating this though. it's fron the kernel at any rate)
 
   I would make a bug report if I knew which package was at fault. Can
   anyone shed any light (literally)? It's an annoyance rather than a
major
   problem but I've been trying to figure it out for at least two weeks
   wthout success,
  
 
  this does sound like a bug. it's at least an issue with some default
  config. if you can, swap out discs and do a fresh install and see what
  happens. i'm pretty sure you'll notice the same thing. however, that
  would be the right thing to do before putting in a bug report (and it
  would be great of you to follow up on this - helps the community and
  all)
 

 Many thanks for these comments. I'll look into the kernel changelog
 files though I find them pretty intimidating these days. Time was when I
 used to compile my own kernels, but for a long time now I've settled for
 a quiet life and just install the standard Debian kernels. But you are
 probably right to say that it's a kernel problem. When it goes wrong, it
 starts up bright but then goes dim at a certain point in the boot
 process. I couldn't see anything in dmesg to explain this but I'll have
 another look.


Might try turning on all kernel logging and look to see if there's any
logging hook for proc, sysfs, and udev.

If it is bright when you first turn the machine on and then dims, the goal
would be to synchronize a clock with your computer (ntp?) and look at the
time when it goes dim and see what happened at that point.

It is completely possible that your backlight function got moved  into a
more appropriate place where other utilities know about it and some setting
is too low for you by default.


Re: gpg: copying secret key

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:57:45 -0400, Ken Heard wrote:

 I created a secret-public key pair for user A in computer P.  It is one
 of two key pairs in file $HOME/.gnupg/secring.gpg.
 
 I would like to copy that key-pair for use by user A computer Q, but als
 for use of user B in computer Q. (I want to allow both user A and B to
 be able to decrypt files in computer Q which were encrypted by user A
 using this particular public key in computer P.)

I'm not sure to have correctly understood your goal... basically you want 
to use one key (same passphrase) for two users? If yes, do you think 
doing that is a good idea? User A and B being different in real life will 
become the same to all effects at GPG level and they'll can impersonate 
each other.
 
 I looked on the gpg manual page, but I could not find a way to do so. Is
 it indeed possible to do what I want to do?  If so I would be grateful
 to anyone who can tell me how.

Just thinking loud... couldn't you just export/import the key on the 
desired computer? Most of the DE have utilities to manage that (Keoplatra 
in KDE and Seahorse in GNOME) :-?

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Re: Anyone using recoll in wheezy or sid?

2011-04-22 Thread Wayne Topa

On 04/22/2011 12:19 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:20:33 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:


I have recoll installed on stable, wheezy and sid.  It is working fine
on stable but on the other two it indexes fine but is not displaying the
results.


(...)

Not using recoll here, but there are some bugs for it:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=recoll;dist=unstable

OTOH, take a quick look into the upstream bugs (solved in 1.15.7):


I had a typo in the sid version it IS 1.15.7-2

I relied on apt-list bugs to report any bugs. ;-(  I guess that was a 
mistake!!


Thanks for the link.  I'll go back to using http://bugs.debian.org from
now on.



http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/BUGS.html#b_1_15_2

Also, try with a new user, just in case.


I had tried that to no avail.



I am looking for a replacement but have yet to find a worthy one.


GNOME and KDE have both very good search desktop engines focused at them,
Tracker for the former and Strigi/Nepomuk for the latter.


Thanks, I will have a look at them but I don't use Gnome or KDE so if 
they don't bring in too much overhead they may fill my needs.



Greetings,



Thanks Camaleón.  Have a nice day!!


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Re: Mediawiki extensions for Debian

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:54:11 -0700, Freeman wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 06:51:23PM -0500, John W Foster wrote:
 I'm looking for more Mediawiki extensions packaged for Debian..stable
 Mediawiki 1.1xxx
 
 Any suggestions? And of course I know I can install them myself, just
 lazy  want to keep the system all Debian. TIA:
 John
 
 
  p   mediawiki-extensions- Extensions for MediaWiki -- Meta 
 package  
  
  p   mediawiki-extensions-base   - Extensions for MediaWiki -- Base 
 package  
  p   mediawiki-extensions-collection - Extensions for MediaWiki -- Collection 
 ext

  p   mediawiki-extensions-confirmedi - Extensions for MediaWiki -- 
 ConfirmEdit ex
  p   mediawiki-extensions-fckeditor  - Extensions for MediaWiki -- FCKeditor 
 exte
  p   mediawiki-extensions-geshi  - Extensions for MediaWiki -- 
 SyntaxHighligh
  p   mediawiki-extensions-graphviz   - Extensions for MediaWiki -- GraphViz 
 exten
  p   mediawiki-extensions-ldapauth   - Extensions for MediaWiki -- 
 LdapAuthentica
  p   mediawiki-extensions-openid - Extensions for MediaWiki -- OpenID 
 extensi

  p   mediawiki-math  - math rendering plugin for MediaWiki

  p   mediawiki-metavidwiki   - A MediaWiki extension for associative 
 temp
  p   mediawiki-semediawiki   - Semantic MediaWiki helps to organise 
 and s

Just to add that be above can be easily found using the package search 
engine:

http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mediawikisearchon=namessuite=stablesection=all

Or by typing apt-cache search mediawiki :-)

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Re: Anyone using recoll in wheezy or sid?

2011-04-22 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:20:33 -0400
Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have recoll installed on stable, wheezy and sid.  It is working fine 
 on stable but on the other two it indexes fine but is not displaying the
 results.  I installed the helper files but still no display other then
 
 ---
 Documents 1-8 of at least 230  (query) Next
 
 
 
 
 Next
 
 The recoll in wheezy is 1.15.2-1 and in sid 1.12.7-2
 
 apt-listbugs does not return errors.
 
 If anyone has recoll working on the above I would appreciate it if
 you could let me know.

Recoll working fine here on my uptodate Sid.
 
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[Fwd: Re: gpg: copying secret key]

2011-04-22 Thread Ken Heard
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Sorry, I sent this reply only to Camaleón instead of to the list.
Pushed the Reply button instead of Reply to List.  Apologies.

Regards, Ken Heard

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Camaleón wrote:

 I'm not sure to have correctly understood your goal... basically you want 
 to use one key (same passphrase) for two users? If yes, do you think 
 doing that is a good idea? User A and B being different in real life will 
 become the same to all effects at GPG level and they'll can impersonate 
 each other.

Actually A and B are the same person, namely me.  A has files which I
don't care who sees; all files in B are in encrypted folders which
anybody who cracks the A directories and files does not know the
existence (I hope) of user B.

 Just thinking loud... couldn't you just export/import the key on the 
 desired computer? Most of the DE have utilities to manage that (Keoplatra 
 in KDE and Seahorse in GNOME) :-?

In fact I was able to solve the problem myself.  After I sent my
original post, I googled further and found out how to save the secret
key and then to import and add to the secret keyring of both users A and
B.  Then by assigning to the secret key in both users with the
ultimate trust level -- after all I created them -- I was able to use
them to decrypt files as user B in computer Q files encrypted by user A
on computer P.  After all the imports were finished I shredded the .asc
file containing the private key.

The URL returned by Google which pointed me in the right direction was
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/UsingGpg/CreatingKeys#Creating_GPG_Keys_Using_the_KDE_Desktop.

Thanks anyway for your response.

Regards, Ken Heard
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Re: gpg: copying secret key

2011-04-22 Thread Ken Heard
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Camaleón wrote:

 I'm not sure to have correctly understood your goal... basically you want
 to use one key (same passphrase) for two users? If yes, do you think
 doing that is a good idea? User A and B being different in real life will
 become the same to all effects at GPG level and they'll can impersonate
 each other.

Actually A and B are the same person, namely me.  A has files which I
don't care who sees; all files in B are in encrypted folders which
anybody who cracks the A directories and files does not know the
existence (I hope) of user B.

 Just thinking loud... couldn't you just export/import the key on the
 desired computer? Most of the DE have utilities to manage that (Keoplatra
 in KDE and Seahorse in GNOME) :-?

In fact I was able to solve the problem myself.  After I sent my
original post, I googled further and found out how to save the secret
key and then to import and add to the secret keyring of both users A and
B.  Then by assigning to the secret key in both users with the
ultimate trust level -- after all I created them -- I was able to use
them to decrypt files as user B in computer Q files encrypted by user A
on computer P.  After all the imports were finished I shredded the .asc
file containing the private key.

The URL returned by Google which pointed me in the right direction was
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/UsingGpg/CreatingKeys#Creating_GPG_Keys_Using_the_KDE_Desktop.

Thanks anyway for your response.

Regards, Ken Heard
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Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
I now know I can use smbclient to read files on an SMB share without having to 
mount it, but I need to do more than that.

I want to be able to access either Java classes or an executable on a shared 
volume on a server without having to mount the volume on the local system. 
(There are a couple reasons for not wanting to mount.)  I know on Windows I can 
list the files on an SMB share on another system and access them using SMB/CIFS 
by just specifying the volume properly on the command line.  I want to do 
something like that on Linux, but do more than just listing the files or 
copying them to the local computer.

I need a way, on Linux, to access files on a network share, which could be SMB 
or NFS (or something else) without mounting the volume.  For example, if I'm on 
System A and I have an executable on System B, and it's on a network share on 
System B, is there any way to run that executable without mounting that share 
as a volume on System A?


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lenny to squeeze dbus-daemon

2011-04-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
I did my first server upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze the other day and
dbus-daemon was installed automatically.  Dbus is strictly for desktops
isn't it?  Is this necessary on a headless server?  Can I safely remove it?

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Re: lenny to squeeze dbus-daemon

2011-04-22 Thread Erwan David
On 22/04/11 19:34, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 I did my first server upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze the other day and
 dbus-daemon was installed automatically.  Dbus is strictly for desktops
 isn't it?  Is this necessary on a headless server?  Can I safely remove it?
 

aptitude why dbus tells me avahi-daemon depends on dbus. And I use avahi
to publish afp (netatalk) and ssh services...


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Re: file systems

2011-04-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Arnt Karlsen put forth on 4/22/2011 8:18 AM:

 ..I've had about half a dozen crashes on ext3 where the journal 
 was written to disk but not the data, so the journal trashed my 
 old data that were gone according to the journal, on the next 
 fsck.

This is a result of using data=writeback journal mode and has been well
known for a long time.  If you use data=ordered mode (the default on
most distros) the journal isn't written until after the data, which
eliminates the problem you've experienced.

https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext3_Data%3DOrdered_vs_Data%3DWriteback_mode

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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Hal Vaughan put forth on 4/22/2011 12:03 PM:
 I now know I can use smbclient to read files on an SMB share without having 
 to mount it, but I need to do more than that.
 
 I want to be able to access either Java classes or an executable on a shared 
 volume on a server without having to mount the volume on the local system. 
 (There are a couple reasons for not wanting to mount.)  I know on Windows I 
 can list the files on an SMB share on another system and access them using 
 SMB/CIFS by just specifying the volume properly on the command line.  I want 
 to do something like that on Linux, but do more than just listing the files 
 or copying them to the local computer.
 
 I need a way, on Linux, to access files on a network share, which could be 
 SMB or NFS (or something else) without mounting the volume.  For example, if 
 I'm on System A and I have an executable on System B, and it's on a network 
 share on System B, is there any way to run that executable without mounting 
 that share as a volume on System A?

If you know the exact path to the file you can use scp to copy it
locally and then execute the local copy.  If you don't need to keep the
binary, simply delete the local copy after use.  Why is this?

The remote filesystem contains execute permission for each file.
Mounting the filesystem requires authentication.  That authentication is
required to determine execute permission.

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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:03:00 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:

(...)

 I need a way, on Linux, to access files on a network share, which could
 be SMB or NFS (or something else) without mounting the volume.  For
 example, if I'm on System A and I have an executable on System B, and
 it's on a network share on System B, is there any way to run that
 executable without mounting that share as a volume on System A?

Hum... I think it could be possible, just ensure that the file in the 
share has the proper rights (that is, it should be executable by the 
user).

As for java files, you could create a launcher on the desktop pointing to 
the file:

java -jar smb://path/to/jar/file.jar

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Re: lenny to squeeze dbus-daemon

2011-04-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Erwan David put forth on 4/22/2011 12:40 PM:
 On 22/04/11 19:34, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 I did my first server upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze the other day and
 dbus-daemon was installed automatically.  Dbus is strictly for desktops
 isn't it?  Is this necessary on a headless server?  Can I safely remove it?

 
 aptitude why dbus tells me avahi-daemon depends on dbus. And I use avahi
 to publish afp (netatalk) and ssh services...

That doesn't really answer my question.

~$ aptitude why dbus
i   libdbus-1-3 Recommends dbus

~$ aptitude why libdbus-1-3
i   dbus Depends libdbus-1-3 (= 1.0.2)

It appears my only dependency is circular.  Aptitude says both are
optional and not installed automatically.  But, considering dbus was not
part of my Lenny system, nor Etch before it, it sure seems that it was
automatically installed by the Squeeze upgrade.

So, my question stands.  Does (headless) Squeeze need the dbus-daemon
for something that Lenny did not, or can I safely remove it?

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Re: lenny to squeeze dbus-daemon

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 12:34:26 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 I did my first server upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze the other day and
 dbus-daemon was installed automatically.  

You should have instructed apt to do not install recommended packages by 
default.

 Dbus is strictly for desktops isn't it?  Is this necessary on a
 headless server?  Can I safely remove it?

You can remove it whenever not required by any other package/application.

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Openjdk vs. sun-java in Debian

2011-04-22 Thread Klistvud

Howdie, fellow Debianites!

I need somebody to explain to me in lay terms what's wrong with Java  
in Debian. I'm running Squeeze and have recently bumped into two  
Java-related issues:


1. The site http://ndt.switch.ch/ warns me about a missing Java Runtime  
Environment and prompts me to install it. I checked with aptitude, and  
sure enough, openjdk-6-jre is installed.


2. The game  
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bp2k6/files/Bolzplatz%202006/Bolzplatz%202006%20v1.0.3/  
won't work, and I'm far too ignorant of Java to find out what exactly  
I'm missing. Is it that I'm running 64-bit and the game is 32-bit? Or  
do I need a particular plugin? Or perhaps just a symlink to the right  
binary somewhere? Or the proprietary Java from Sun? Or something else?


Also, in general, how can I know when something Java-related won't  
work, is it the fault of the open Java I'm using or some wrong  
configuration somewhere in my system?


Is there any simple, yet good howto on this?

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Re: Anyone using recoll in wheezy or sid?

2011-04-22 Thread Wayne Topa

On 04/22/2011 01:01 PM, Celejar wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:20:33 -0400
Wayne Topalinux...@gmail.com  wrote:


I have recoll installed on stable, wheezy and sid.  It is working fine
on stable but on the other two it indexes fine but is not displaying the
results.  I installed the helper files but still no display other then

---
Documents 1-8 of at least 230  (query) Next




Next

The recoll in wheezy is 1.15.2-1 and in sid 1.12.7-2
   ^5
apt-listbugs does not return errors.

If anyone has recoll working on the above I would appreciate it if
you could let me know.


Recoll working fine here on my uptodate Sid.

Celejar


Thanks.  I have it working now on the 3rd new test user.  Weird that 
only 1 out of 3 test users works. I am continuing my testing to see what 
the Heck is going on here.


Wayne


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Re: Openjdk vs. sun-java in Debian

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 20:37:39 +0200, Klistvud wrote:

(...)
 
 Also, in general, how can I know when something Java-related won't work,
 is it the fault of the open Java I'm using or some wrong configuration
 somewhere in my system?
 
 Is there any simple, yet good howto on this?

Hum... simple way I'd say not, because most of the web sites use a 
javascript routine to check the java version installed and they can 
search for any general string like jre or java or they can be more 
specific and look for Sun Java-whatever-version and act accordingly.

To be an online citizen with full rights you need the Sun's java plugin 
most of the times so if you usually browse sites that requires java VM 
just install the Sun's JRE and you're done.

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Re: network-manager and resolv.conf

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:25:36 -0700, tony mollica wrote:

 Using deb6-amd64 and I've searched for an acceptable solution but I find
 none that I like.
 
 The problem is that I would like to have this 'option single-request'
 lline in
 /etc/resolv.conf but network-manager continuously removes the line (and
 anything else it doesn't care for).  There must be a way to identify
 this line
 as a permanent line or add it to the network manager config somewhere so
 it is always added back in when resolv.conf is changed.
 
 Question is:  Where is that setting located?

If you can't beat them, join them :-)

Look at man networkmanager, it seems that you can tell NM to pass some 
values by scripting the desired commands by means of /etc/NetworkManager/
dispatcher.d/ folder. 

Maybe you can create a simple script -carefully look for the script 
requirements- that adds the option single-request value to /etc/
resolv.conf every time NM is in use.

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Re: Re: Why does Linux crash?

2011-04-22 Thread Borden Rhodes
Thank you, Boyd, that was just the sort of answer I was looking for.  I tried 
using Ctrl+Alt+F1 to drop into a terminal but, again, it wasn't responsive.  
I'll commit your suggestions to memory for the next time the system locks up.

You touched on the crux of my complaint: sure, I expect the odd processes to 
get out of control but keyboard/mouse/touchpad/input should still take 
precedence and allow someone to recover a badly crippled system.  I was 
frustrated that Linux doesn't enforce this by default - assuming that it can.  
However, although I summarised my story as 'wait or yank power,' I did try a 
few keyboard interrupts: Ctrl+Alt+Del (possibly disabled), Ctrl+Alt+Backspace 
(probably disabled), and the Ctrl+Alt+F# keys.  Unless the keyboard interrupts 
take special precedence, it's safe to assume that my system, indeed, locked 
up.

I fix computers part time and I've seen first-hand what yanking the power can 
do 
to file system integrity.  The thing to remember is that I'm not as smart as 
most of the people on this list but I'm not completely stupid either.  
Computer competence falls on a spectrum and not simply Beginner, Intermediate 
and Advanced.  However, it's feedback like this which helps me improve my 
skills.

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Re: Openjdk vs. sun-java in Debian

2011-04-22 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 08:37:39PM +0200, Klistvud wrote:

 1. The site http://ndt.switch.ch/ warns me about a missing Java
 Runtime Environment and prompts me to install it. I checked with
 aptitude, and sure enough, openjdk-6-jre is installed.

Works here with the openjdk from Squeeze.
The browser plugin package is called icedtea6-plugin.
In most browsers 'about:plugins' lists all installed plugins, might be worth
to check if it's listed and thus properly installed aswell.

If for any reason it's required to have the 'original' Sun JRE and plugins 
installed you've to add the non-free part of the archive to your sources list.
The browser plugin package is called sun-java6-plugin.

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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-22 Thread Hal Vaughan

On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Camaleón wrote:

 On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:03:00 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
 
 (...)
 
 I need a way, on Linux, to access files on a network share, which could
 be SMB or NFS (or something else) without mounting the volume.  For
 example, if I'm on System A and I have an executable on System B, and
 it's on a network share on System B, is there any way to run that
 executable without mounting that share as a volume on System A?
 
 Hum... I think it could be possible, just ensure that the file in the 
 share has the proper rights (that is, it should be executable by the 
 user).
 
 As for java files, you could create a launcher on the desktop pointing to 
 the file:
 
 java -jar smb://path/to/jar/file.jar

Does Java handle the SMB protocol on its own?  I know I can't list a directory 
that way with ls, even with the Samba client package installed.



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Subject=Re: Re: VirtualBox 4 fails building kernel module (the same with nvidia module)

2011-04-22 Thread Jonas Jensen
I switched to custom kernel and came across this thread. I also use
squeeze and this is what I have found.

First of, Debian has the following versions of nvidia-kernel-dkms packages:

squeeze: 195.36.31-6
sid/wheezy: 260.19.44-1
experimental: 270.30-1

The version in squeeze fail on anything above kernel 2.6.38 and none
will compile on 2.6.39 because of BKL removal; nvidia-kernel-dkms
depends on it; include/linux/smp_lock.h is missing and the driver
will not compile without it.

So I settled for kernel 2.6.38.4 and nvidia-kernel-dkms from
experimental because it compiles without issue. The packages from
sid/wheezy also work but why not use the latest and greatest. Here is
what i did:

cd /usr/src

download the following packages from exerimental:

libgl1-nvidia-glx_270.30-1_amd64.deb
nvidia-glx_270.30-1_amd64.deb
nvidia-kernel-dkms_270.30-1_amd64.deb
nvidia-common_20110213+1_amd64.deb
nvidia-kernel-common_20110213+1_amd64.deb

download, untar and configure kernel 2.6.38.4.

cd linux-2.6.38.4

fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=2.6.38.4+jj
--append_to_version=+jj kernel_image; fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd
--revision=2.6.38.4+jj --append_to_version=+jj kernel_headers

dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.38.4+jj_2.6.38.4+jj_amd64.deb
linux-headers-2.6.38.4+jj_2.6.38.4+jj_amd64.deb

dpkg -i libgl1-nvidia-glx_270.30-1_amd64.deb
nvidia-glx_270.30-1_amd64.deb nvidia-kernel-dkms_270.30-1_amd64.deb
nvidia-common_20110213+1_amd64.deb
nvidia-kernel-common_20110213+1_amd64.deb

dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms


Best regards,
Jonas Jensen


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