Re: [HS] Iceweasel et Thunderbird avec deux dictionnaires

2012-09-28 Thread Stephane Ascoet

Le 27/09/2012 19:12, maderios a écrit :

Bonjour
Icewesel m'interdit d'utiliser deux dico en même temps, français et anglais. 
Idem pour Thunderbird.
J'ai donc le droit à des surlignages rouges partout
Quelqu'un aurait il une solution, quitte à changer de navigateur et de client 
mail ?

Cordialement




Bonjour, ce n'est pas vraiment le sujet de la liste... On peut choisir le 
dictionnaire actif avec le clic-droit.

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Bonnes pratiques d'administration de Debian côté sécurité

2012-09-28 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

Comme je ne suis certainement pas le premier à me pencher sur ce sujet,
je me permets de faire appel à vos lumières (et surtout à votre
expérience ;-))...

Donc, au sein de vos entreprises, vous avez sûrement des serveurs
Debian géographiquement éloignés. Comment vous y connectez-vous ?
Directement en root ? Via un compte de service (générique et
utilisé par plusieurs personnes) ? Avec un identifiant personnalisé ?
Dans ces 2 derniers cas, quand vous devez passer root, vous fournissez
un mot de passe. Comment ceux-ci sont-ils gérés ?
Et quand une personne change de service (ou quitte l'entreprise),
avez-vous des mesures spécifiques quant aux mots de passe connus ? Aux
clés SSH en sa possession ?

Merci d'avance pour vos bons conseils...

David.

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Re: Bonnes pratiques d'administration de Debian côté sécurité

2012-09-28 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 28/09/2012 11:21, David BERCOT a écrit :

Bonjour,


Bonjour


Comme je ne suis certainement pas le premier à me pencher sur ce sujet,
je me permets de faire appel à vos lumières (et surtout à votre
expérience ;-))...

Donc, au sein de vos entreprises, vous avez sûrement des serveurs
Debian géographiquement éloignés. Comment vous y connectez-vous ?
Directement en root ?


Jamais


  Via un compte de service (générique et
utilisé par plusieurs personnes) ?


Jamais


  Avec un identifiant personnalisé ?


Oui


Dans ces 2 derniers cas, quand vous devez passer root, vous fournissez
un mot de passe. Comment ceux-ci sont-ils gérés ?


sudo


Et quand une personne change de service (ou quitte l'entreprise),
avez-vous des mesures spécifiques quant aux mots de passe connus ? Aux
clés SSH en sa possession ?


Openvpn, révocation des certificats. Suppression du/des comptes de 
l'utilisateur.


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Re: Iceweasel et Thunderbird avec deux dictionnaires

2012-09-28 Thread maderios

On 09/27/2012 07:52 PM, Bzzz wrote:


Pour le MUA, claws-mail permet de désigner 2 dicos et s'en accommode
Tbien.

Nuance concernant ma dernière appréciation concernant claws-mail: il est 
très bien pour utiliser deux dictionnaires en même temps, par contre, 
pour l'imap, ce n'est pas le top. Très lent et j'ai un freeze qui dure 
depuis 5 mn...


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Re: Bonnes pratiques d'administration de Debian côté sécurité

2012-09-28 Thread David BERCOT
Le Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:28:55 +0200,
daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit :
Le 28/09/2012 11:21, David BERCOT a écrit :
 Bonjour,
Bonjour

 Comme je ne suis certainement pas le premier à me pencher sur ce
 sujet, je me permets de faire appel à vos lumières (et surtout à
 votre expérience ;-))...

 Donc, au sein de vos entreprises, vous avez sûrement des serveurs
 Debian géographiquement éloignés. Comment vous y connectez-vous ?
 Directement en root ?

Jamais

   Via un compte de service (générique et
 utilisé par plusieurs personnes) ?

Jamais

   Avec un identifiant personnalisé ?

Oui

Bon, sur ces principes, ça me paraît logique. Maintenant, concrètement,
ça me paraît plus délicat. En effet, si un nouvel administrateur
arrive, comment ajouter facilement son compte et sa clé sur les 50
(chiffres au hasard mais, potentiellement, ça pourrait même être plus)
serveurs locaux  distants qu'il doit gérer ?

 Dans ces 2 derniers cas, quand vous devez passer root, vous
 fournissez un mot de passe. Comment ceux-ci sont-ils gérés ?

sudo

OK.

 Et quand une personne change de service (ou quitte l'entreprise),
 avez-vous des mesures spécifiques quant aux mots de passe connus ?
 Aux clés SSH en sa possession ?

Openvpn, révocation des certificats. Suppression du/des comptes de 
l'utilisateur.

Là encore, ça paraît logique même si ce n'est pas trivial de supprimer
un compte sur 50 serveurs (il faut être sûr de ne pas en oublier)...

Merci.

David.

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Re: Iceweasel et Thunderbird avec deux dictionnaires

2012-09-28 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:35:52 +0200
maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote:


 Nuance concernant ma dernière appréciation concernant claws-mail:
 il est très bien pour utiliser deux dictionnaires en même temps,
 par contre, pour l'imap, ce n'est pas le top. Très lent et j'ai un
 freeze qui dure depuis 5 mn...

Hmm, jamais eu ça s/s sid (avec dovecot), tu es sûr que tu n'oublies
pas qu'au 1er accès d'un dossier il télécharge tous ses en-têtes?
et que tu ne synchronises pas pour le mode hors connexion?

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Re: Bonnes pratiques d'administration de Debian côté sécurité

2012-09-28 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:21:04 +0200
David BERCOT deb...@bercot.org wrote:

 Donc, au sein de vos entreprises, vous avez sûrement des serveurs
 Debian géographiquement éloignés. Comment vous y connectez-vous ?

En SSH s/s root avec identification par clé.

 gérés ? Et quand une personne change de service (ou quitte
 l'entreprise), avez-vous des mesures spécifiques quant aux mots de
 passe connus ? Aux clés SSH en sa possession ?

Changement de proprio pour les fichiers devant perdurer puis
destruction du compte (avec élimination de tous ses fichiers).

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Re: Bonnes pratiques d'administration de Debian côté sécurité

2012-09-28 Thread Dominique Asselineau
David BERCOT wrote on Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:48:25AM +0200
 Le Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:28:55 +0200,
 daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit :
 Le 28/09/2012 11:21, David BERCOT a écrit :
  Bonjour,
 Bonjour
 
  Comme je ne suis certainement pas le premier à me pencher sur ce
  sujet, je me permets de faire appel à vos lumières (et surtout à
  votre expérience ;-))...
 
  Donc, au sein de vos entreprises, vous avez sûrement des serveurs
  Debian géographiquement éloignés. Comment vous y connectez-vous ?
  Directement en root ?
 
 Jamais
 
Via un compte de service (générique et
  utilisé par plusieurs personnes) ?
 
 Jamais
 
Avec un identifiant personnalisé ?
 
 Oui
 
 Bon, sur ces principes, ça me paraît logique. Maintenant, concrètement,
 ça me paraît plus délicat. En effet, si un nouvel administrateur
 arrive, comment ajouter facilement son compte et sa clé sur les 50
 (chiffres au hasard mais, potentiellement, ça pourrait même être plus)
 serveurs locaux  distants qu'il doit gérer ?
 
  Dans ces 2 derniers cas, quand vous devez passer root, vous
  fournissez un mot de passe. Comment ceux-ci sont-ils gérés ?
 
 sudo
 
 OK.
 
  Et quand une personne change de service (ou quitte l'entreprise),
  avez-vous des mesures spécifiques quant aux mots de passe connus ?
  Aux clés SSH en sa possession ?
 
 Openvpn, révocation des certificats. Suppression du/des comptes de 
 l'utilisateur.
 
 Là encore, ça paraît logique même si ce n'est pas trivial de supprimer
 un compte sur 50 serveurs (il faut être sûr de ne pas en oublier)...

Utilisation d'un serveur LDAP ?

dom
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Re: Bonnes pratiques d'administration de Debian côté sécurité

2012-09-28 Thread Jean Baptiste Favre

Bonjour,

On 9/28/12 11:21 AM, David BERCOT wrote:

Bonjour,

Comme je ne suis certainement pas le premier à me pencher sur ce sujet,
je me permets de faire appel à vos lumières (et surtout à votre
expérience ;-))...

Donc, au sein de vos entreprises, vous avez sûrement des serveurs
Debian géographiquement éloignés. Comment vous y connectez-vous ?

SSH


Directement en root ? Via un compte de service (générique et
utilisé par plusieurs personnes) ? Avec un identifiant personnalisé ?

Jamais en root, login nominatif


Dans ces 2 derniers cas, quand vous devez passer root, vous fournissez
un mot de passe. Comment ceux-ci sont-ils gérés ?

Industrialisation avec Puppet


Et quand une personne change de service (ou quitte l'entreprise),
avez-vous des mesures spécifiques quant aux mots de passe connus ? Aux
clés SSH en sa possession ?

Idem, puppet fait le ménage qui s'impose



Merci d'avance pour vos bons conseils...

David.



Cordialement,
JB

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Re: Bonnes pratiques d'administration de Debian côté sécurité

2012-09-28 Thread Erwan David
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:48:25AM CEST, David BERCOT deb...@bercot.org said:
 Le Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:28:55 +0200,
 daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit :
 Le 28/09/2012 11:21, David BERCOT a écrit :
  Bonjour,
 Bonjour
 
  Comme je ne suis certainement pas le premier à me pencher sur ce
  sujet, je me permets de faire appel à vos lumières (et surtout à
  votre expérience ;-))...
 
  Donc, au sein de vos entreprises, vous avez sûrement des serveurs
  Debian géographiquement éloignés. Comment vous y connectez-vous ?
  Directement en root ?
 
 Jamais
 
Via un compte de service (générique et
  utilisé par plusieurs personnes) ?
 
 Jamais
 
Avec un identifiant personnalisé ?
 
 Oui
 
 Bon, sur ces principes, ça me paraît logique. Maintenant, concrètement,
 ça me paraît plus délicat. En effet, si un nouvel administrateur
 arrive, comment ajouter facilement son compte et sa clé sur les 50
 (chiffres au hasard mais, potentiellement, ça pourrait même être plus)
 serveurs locaux  distants qu'il doit gérer ?

Ça me semble un boulot pour puppet/chef/cfengine ou tout autre système
de gestion d'ensemble de machines.

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Re: Iceweasel et Thunderbird avec deux dictionnaires

2012-09-28 Thread maderios

On 09/28/2012 12:07 PM, Bzzz wrote:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:35:52 +0200
maderiosmader...@gmail.com  wrote:



Nuance concernant ma dernière appréciation concernant claws-mail:
il est très bien pour utiliser deux dictionnaires en même temps,
par contre, pour l'imap, ce n'est pas le top. Très lent et j'ai un
freeze qui dure depuis 5 mn...


Hmm, jamais eu ça s/s sid (avec dovecot), tu es sûr que tu n'oublies
pas qu'au 1er accès d'un dossier il télécharge tous ses en-têtes?


Je suis en Imap avec Icedove, et ça marche bien,  avec un délai normal 
pour récupérer les en-tête, quelques secondes, même avec des milliers de 
messages.
J'ai peut-être trouvé une des causes de la lenteur de claws-mail_imap: 
en désactivant edit account - user - allow filtering using plug-ins on 
receiving, le chargement est plus rapide. Malgré cela, Icedove est plus 
rapide.




et que tu ne synchronises pas pour le mode hors connexion?


Non
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Re: Bonnes pratiques d'administration de Debian côté sécurité

2012-09-28 Thread David BERCOT
Merci pour vos différents retours.

Visiblement, il va falloir que je teste puppet ;-)

David.

Le Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:48:24 +0200,
Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org a écrit :
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:48:25AM CEST, David BERCOT
deb...@bercot.org said:
 Le Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:28:55 +0200,
 daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit :
 Le 28/09/2012 11:21, David BERCOT a écrit :
  Bonjour,
 Bonjour
 
  Comme je ne suis certainement pas le premier à me pencher sur ce
  sujet, je me permets de faire appel à vos lumières (et surtout à
  votre expérience ;-))...
 
  Donc, au sein de vos entreprises, vous avez sûrement des serveurs
  Debian géographiquement éloignés. Comment vous y connectez-vous ?
  Directement en root ?
 
 Jamais
 
Via un compte de service (générique et
  utilisé par plusieurs personnes) ?
 
 Jamais
 
Avec un identifiant personnalisé ?
 
 Oui
 
 Bon, sur ces principes, ça me paraît logique. Maintenant,
 concrètement, ça me paraît plus délicat. En effet, si un nouvel
 administrateur arrive, comment ajouter facilement son compte et sa
 clé sur les 50 (chiffres au hasard mais, potentiellement, ça
 pourrait même être plus) serveurs locaux  distants qu'il doit
 gérer ?

Ça me semble un boulot pour puppet/chef/cfengine ou tout autre système
de gestion d'ensemble de machines.

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Re: Bonnes pratiques d'administration de Debian côté sécurité

2012-09-28 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:16:32 +0200
Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote:

J'oubliais: suppression du user et de ses fichiers, mais avec
sauvegarde (6 mois) desdits fichiers au cas où.

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Re: Bonnes pratiques d'administration de Debian côté sécurité

2012-09-28 Thread andre_debian
On Friday 28 September 2012 11:21:04 David BERCOT wrote:
 Donc, au sein de vos entreprises, vous avez sûrement des serveurs
 Debian géographiquement éloignés :
oui

 Comment vous y connectez-vous ? :
via ssh

 Directement en root ? : 
non 

 Via un compte de service (générique et utilisé par plusieurs 
personnes) ? :
non, un user normal (adduser ...)

 Avec un identifiant personnalisé ? :
d'un user.

 Dans ces 2 derniers cas, quand vous devez passer root, vous fournissez
 un mot de passe. Comment ceux-ci sont-ils gérés ? :
une fois loggué en user = root

 Et quand une personne change de service (ou quitte l'entreprise),
 avez-vous des mesures spécifiques quant aux mots de passe connus ? 
 Aux clés SSH en sa possession ?  David :
Mettre un autre port que le 22 (par défaut).

Modifier les mots de passe user 
et root si la personne qui est partie le connaissait.
Si clés SSH, évidemment les modifier.

Pas facile lors d'un départ conflictuel d'un admin-système,
et si des dizaines de personnes se logguent aux serveurs.
(modification de toutes les clés sur les postes clients)

André


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Re: postfix con SASL smtp no autentica

2012-09-28 Thread Juan Antonio
El 28/09/12 02:33, co...@esid.gecgr.co.cu escribió:
 Hola
 
 Necesito que en mi postfix el usuario al hacer smtp autentique cosa que no
 está pasando, es decir pasa como juan por su casa y no pide ningun passwd,
 estoy usando los user del sistema que les cambio a /bin/false
 
 Este es la parte
 
 #SASL
 smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes
 smtp_use_tls = no
 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = no
 #smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
 smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
 #smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $mydomain
 smtpd_sasl_local_domain =
 smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl/sasl_passwd
 smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
 smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes
 smtpd_helo_required = yes
 smtpd_soft_error_limit = 60
 smtpd_hard_error_limit = 10
 disable_vrfy_command = yes
 local_destination_concurrency_limit = 2
 default_destination_concurrency_limit = 10
 inet_interfaces = all
 inet_protocols = ipv4
 disable_dns_lookups = yes
 broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
 
 y en /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf
 pwcheck_method: saslauthd
 mech_list: plain login
 log_level:3
 
 Que me falta???
 
 Que tengo mal??
 
 problemas de permiso???
 
 Agradecería cualquier sugerencia
 
 Salu2
 Cosme
 
 
 
 

Hola,

tienes cobfigurada la restricción?

smtpd_recipient_restrictions=
permit_mynetworks,
permit_sasl_authenticated,
reject_unauth_destination

también es posible que lo estes haciendo desde una red autorizada.

En todo caso, para comprobar si funciona la autenticación, conéctate
directamente al puerto 25 con telnet y autentícate con auth plain

Un saludo.

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Re: postfix con SASL smtp no autentica

2012-09-28 Thread Francesc Guitart
2012/9/28  co...@esid.gecgr.co.cu:
 Hola

 Necesito que en mi postfix el usuario al hacer smtp autentique cosa que no
 está pasando, es decir pasa como juan por su casa y no pide ningun passwd,
 estoy usando los user del sistema que les cambio a /bin/false

 Este es la parte

 #SASL
 smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes
 smtp_use_tls = no
 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = no
 #smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
 smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
 #smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $mydomain
 smtpd_sasl_local_domain =
 smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl/sasl_passwd
 smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
 smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes
 smtpd_helo_required = yes
 smtpd_soft_error_limit = 60
 smtpd_hard_error_limit = 10
 disable_vrfy_command = yes
 local_destination_concurrency_limit = 2
 default_destination_concurrency_limit = 10
 inet_interfaces = all
 inet_protocols = ipv4
 disable_dns_lookups = yes
 broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes

 y en /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf
 pwcheck_method: saslauthd
 mech_list: plain login
 log_level:3

 Que me falta???

 Que tengo mal??

 problemas de permiso???

 Agradecería cualquier sugerencia

Como estas haciendo las pruebas? Si envias mensajes a tu mismo dominio
es normal que no pida autentificarse.


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Re: Firefox en Deian 6

2012-09-28 Thread Víctor Villa
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 De iceweasel: Debian testing y sid tiene actualmente la versión
 10.0.7esr-2. Debian stable tiene actualmente la versión
 3.5.16-18
 
 Es porque estás usando la rama estable de Debian.
 
 Puedes llegar a hacer una NO RECOMENDADA PARA NOVATOS mezcla de 
 repositorios (pero que no es difícil de hacer si uno va con
 cuidado) para instalar esta versión.
 
 Si te animás, te digo paso a paso cómo hacerlo.
 
 JAP
 
 JAP

Sólo por curiosidad (que no me veo en las mismas de Luis), pero
siempre pensé que la maniobra recomendada para estos casos era tirar
de backports en lugar de mezclar stable y testing.

¿No debería haber menos colisiones en las versiones de las librerías
usando backports?

Un saludo

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Re: ¿Linux, para diseño web y diseño grafico?

2012-09-28 Thread Ala de Dragón
El 07/09/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 Te faltará algún buen editor de html del que para linux no conozco
 sustituto comparable al Dreamweaver aunque como te comentaba antes, hoy
 en día ya no hay artesanos del html (nos hemos extinguido cual
 dinosaurios :-P), se hace todo con frameworks online.

 Saludos,

 --
 Camaleón



Pues yo sigo creando el HTML a mano, me cuesta un poco mas de
tiempo pero cuando leo mi codigo fuente y se puede leer y
entender, no se, me entra un gusanillo especial... Ahora voy a pegarle
un vistazo a  frameworks online en google, no veo nada interesante. En
los repos de debian (al menos en PPC) estará Kompozer no es la octava
maravilla del mundo, pero si te acomodas cumple su función.

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 lo que el agua es  para las ninfas


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Re: ¿Linux, para diseño web y diseño grafico?

2012-09-28 Thread Ala de Dragón
No había leído completamente la lista, Jesusda, no puedes imaginarte
la información tan valiosa que acabas de ofrecerme, actualmente sois
mi único canal de información. Con todos mis amigos locos por la play
y el juego de turno recibir información sobre las tendencias en
desarrollo web, tan detallada y bien redactada (obviando el html) es
oro puro en mi pantalla. . Gracias y un saludo.


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Re: ¿Linux, para diseño web y diseño grafico?

2012-09-28 Thread jEsuSdA 8)

El 28/09/12 12:56, Ala de Dragón escribió:

No había leído completamente la lista, Jesusda, no puedes imaginarte
la información tan valiosa que acabas de ofrecerme, actualmente sois
mi único canal de información. Con todos mis amigos locos por la play
y el juego de turno recibir información sobre las tendencias en
desarrollo web, tan detallada y bien redactada (obviando el html) es
oro puro en mi pantalla. . Gracias y un saludo.


Celebro que te haya sido de utilidad y pido de nuevo disculpas por el 
html. A veces se me olvida marcar el sólo texto. :S


Un saludo y aquí me tenéis para cualquier duda!
jEsuSdA 8)


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Re: Firefox en Deian 6

2012-09-28 Thread Debian GMail

El 28/09/12 06:43, Víctor Villa escribió:

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De iceweasel: Debian testing y sid tiene actualmente la versión
10.0.7esr-2. Debian stable tiene actualmente la versión
3.5.16-18

Es porque estás usando la rama estable de Debian.

Puedes llegar a hacer una NO RECOMENDADA PARA NOVATOS mezcla de
repositorios (pero que no es difícil de hacer si uno va con
cuidado) para instalar esta versión.

Si te animás, te digo paso a paso cómo hacerlo.

JAP

JAP


Sólo por curiosidad (que no me veo en las mismas de Luis), pero
siempre pensé que la maniobra recomendada para estos casos era tirar
de backports en lugar de mezclar stable y testing.

¿No debería haber menos colisiones en las versiones de las librerías
usando backports?

Un saludo



En teoría, sí. Los backports son más recomendables.
Pero a veces, a mí personalmente, se me han liado las dependencias 
cuando el paquete es un tanto complejo, pues no siempre en los backports 
están todas las dependencias que se necesitan.

Mientras que en la otra rama, suelen instalarse automáticamente.

JAP


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Re: postfix con SASL smtp no autentica

2012-09-28 Thread JulHer
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El 28/09/12 02:33, co...@esid.gecgr.co.cu escribió:
 Hola
 
 Necesito que en mi postfix el usuario al hacer smtp autentique cosa
 que no está pasando, es decir pasa como juan por su casa y no pide
 ningun passwd, estoy usando los user del sistema que les cambio a
 /bin/false
 
 Este es la parte
 
 #SASL smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes smtp_use_tls = no 
 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = no #smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes 
 smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes #smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $mydomain 
 smtpd_sasl_local_domain = smtp_sasl_password_maps =
 hash:/etc/postfix/sasl/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_options =
 noanonymous smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes 
 smtpd_helo_required = yes smtpd_soft_error_limit = 60 
 smtpd_hard_error_limit = 10 disable_vrfy_command = yes 
 local_destination_concurrency_limit = 2 
 default_destination_concurrency_limit = 10 inet_interfaces = all 
 inet_protocols = ipv4 disable_dns_lookups = yes 
 broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
 
 y en /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf pwcheck_method: saslauthd 
 mech_list: plain login log_level:3
 
 Que me falta???
 
 Que tengo mal??
 
 problemas de permiso???
 
 Agradecería cualquier sugerencia


Hola,

En esos enlaces te describen como hacerlo, el primero es el howto
oficial de postfix, y el segundo es un usuario describiendo como se hace:

http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html
http://jpertuz.wordpress.com/postfix-smtp-autenticado-con-sasl/

Un saludo

JulHer






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Problema instalando paquetes en Debian 6 64bits

2012-09-28 Thread Leosbel Rojas
buenos días, estoy usando Debian 6 pero 64 bits, cada vez que intento 
instalar un paquete, cualquiera que este sea me da el siguiente error.


Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
Reading changelogs... Done
Preconfiguring packages ...
dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 615800:
 field name `Package2' must be followed by colon
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)

Les agradeceria cualquier ayuda que me pudieran brindar.

Atte, Leosbel

attachment: leosbel.vcf

Programa para vídeotutorial

2012-09-28 Thread Marcos Delgado
Hola, he visto recordmydesktop para grabar las acciones en la
computadora, pero quisiera poder añadir texto con las instrucciones de
lo que se va a realizar, ya que no quiero poner audio. ¿Alguien que me
pueda recomendar alguna alternativa?

Saludos.
Marcos Delgado.


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Re: Problema instalando paquetes en Debian 6 64bits

2012-09-28 Thread Debian GMail

El 28/09/12 11:26, Leosbel Rojas escribió:

buenos días, estoy usando Debian 6 pero 64 bits, cada vez que intento
instalar un paquete, cualquiera que este sea me da el siguiente error.

Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
Reading changelogs... Done
Preconfiguring packages ...
dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 615800:
field name `Package2' must be followed by colon
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)

Les agradeceria cualquier ayuda que me pudieran brindar.

Atte, Leosbel




Fijate si esto te sirve. No es exactamente lo mismo, pero te puede dar 
una punta de ovillo.





Re: Problemas al actualizar wheezy [SOLUCIONADO]

To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Problemas al actualizar wheezy [SOLUCIONADO]
From: Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:08:52 -0300
Message-id: 4ff34344.9010...@gmail.com
Reply-to: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
In-reply-to: jsusvs$q1u$6...@dough.gmane.org
References: 4ff2d8e5.9060...@gmail.com jsusvs$q1u$6...@dough.gmane.org

El 03/07/12 10:44, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 03 Jul 2012 08:35:01 -0300, Debian GMail escribió:


Desde hace un par de días, cuando se congeló wheezy, me quedé 
con el

sistema sistema sin poder actualizar, pues dos paquetes tienen
problemas, y me impiden actualizar el resto.

(...)


disco adicional después de esta operación. Configurando util-linux
(2.20.1-5) ... insserv: warning: script 'K01smfpd' missing LSB 
tags and

overrides insserv: warning: script 'smfpd' missing LSB tags and
overrides insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rmnologin and 
therefore on

system facility `$all' which can not be true!

(...)

insserv:  loop involving service mountall-bootclean at depth 1 
insserv:
exiting now without changing boot order! update-rc.d: error: 
insserv

rejected the script header dpkg: error al procesar
keyboard-configuration (--configure):
   el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió 
el código

de salida de error 1
Se encontraron errores al procesar:
   util-linux
   keyboard-configuration

(...)

Mira a ver si lo que comentan aquí te sirve:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=589238

EL bug es antiguo pero el error parece el mismo.

Saludos,


Nuevamente, como ya es costumbre, lo que Camaleón dijo es lo correcto.
Es un bug que se pega en el script /etc/init.d/smfpd

La solución en editar dicho script, y adicionar las líneas que indica el 
reporte


http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=589238
que se aclaran en
http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts

Se debe pegar esto

### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides:  smfpd
# Required-Start:$remote_fs $syslog
# Required-Stop: $remote_fs $syslog
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop:  0 1 6
# Short-Description: Start daemon at boot time
# Description:   Enable service provided by daemon.
### END INIT INFO

antes de la línea que empieza con

SMFPD=/usr/sbin/smfpd

Muchas gracias otra vez.

JAP



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Re: Programa para vídeotutorial

2012-09-28 Thread Sergio Daniel Gomez

El 28/09/12 12:32, Marcos Delgado escribió:

Hola, he visto recordmydesktop para grabar las acciones en la
computadora, pero quisiera poder añadir texto con las instrucciones de
lo que se va a realizar, ya que no quiero poner audio. ¿Alguien que me
pueda recomendar alguna alternativa?

Saludos.
Marcos Delgado.




Necesitás hacer todo en línea? De ser así podrías utilizar webcamstudio 
teniendo antes preparados todos los textos que querés poner.

Si no va a ser todo en línea, podrías pegarle subtítulos (no me acuerdo
cómo) o utilizar algo como cinelerra y hacer una edición del video 
agregándole lo que necesites.

Saludos.

Sergio D. Gómez


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Re: Problema instalando paquetes en Debian 6 64bits

2012-09-28 Thread Evgeny M. Zubok
Leosbel Rojas leos...@pri.inv.cu writes:

 buenos días, estoy usando Debian 6 pero 64 bits, cada vez que intento
 instalar un paquete, cualquiera que este sea me da el siguiente error.

 Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
 Reading changelogs... Done
 Preconfiguring packages ...
 dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 615800:
  field name `Package2' must be followed by colon
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)

 Les agradeceria cualquier ayuda que me pudieran brindar.

Hum, tu archivo /var/lib/dpkg/available es muy grande. El mismo archivo
en mi sistema tiene diez veces menos líneas que 615800. :/

¿Nos podrías mostrar esa línea? Haz desde terminal:

sed -n '615795,615805p' /var/lib/dpkg/available

y pon la salida aquí.


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Re: Firefox en Deian 6

2012-09-28 Thread luis

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 18:11:57 +0400, Evgeny M. Zubok wrote:

Víctor Villa vvil...@gmail.com writes:


Sólo por curiosidad (que no me veo en las mismas de Luis), pero
siempre pensé que la maniobra recomendada para estos casos era tirar
de backports en lugar de mezclar stable y testing.


Sí, creo que es muy mala idea mezclar ramas. Nunca lo hago y siempre 
no

lo recomiendo a nadie precisamente por problemas de colisión. Los
usuarios que instalaron los paquetes desde ramas inestables no 
entienden

por qué las aplicaciones instaladas no funciona bien. A veces tienen
suerte y la aplicación funciona, a veces no. Con estas acciones se 
puede

romper las aplicaciónes de stable, actualizando, por ejemplo, las
bibliotecas importantes (gtk, glib,...) desde testing/sid. El hilo 
[1]
muestra un ejemplo de consecuencias de instalación las bibliotecas 
con

versiones más actualizadas en el sistema estable.

Los 99.9% de mis aplicaciones son de 'stable'. Tengo los 4-5 paquetes
compiladas por mí. Yo personalmente siempre hago backport si no hay 
la

versión o la aplicación en el squeeze-backports: habitualmente yo
descargo las fuentes desde 'sid', modifico las especificaciones en la
cárpeta debian (debian/control, debian/rules, debian/compat, ...),
instalo los paquetes -dev y los paquetes necesarios para compilar la
aplicación, trato de compilar y hacer *.deb con dpkg-buildpackage, 
muevo

automáticamente el paquete o los paquetes a mi repositorio local,
aptitude update, aptitude install. Pero este proceso es muy muy 
defícil

para la mayoría de usuarios y incluso no siempre es posible sin
actualizar (compilar) algunas bibliotecas adicionales (que no están 
en

'stable') o sin parches. Algunas aplicaciones pueden tener las
dependencias muy complejas y pueden requerir la actualización de las
bibliotecas importantes del sistema.


¿No debería haber menos colisiones en las versiones de las librerías
usando backports?


Tienes razón. Mejor usar backports o los repositorios fuera de los
oficiales que tienen los paquetes compilados para 'stable' (creo que
esto último es un poco peligroso).

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2012/08/msg00406.html



Bueno si puedo agregar algo lo que uso es de los sitios oficiales de 
Debian y solo para la versión estable


Tengo poco tiempo en Debian pero me ha gusto todo lo que he logrado 
hasta ahora con estudio y con ayuda tambien de la lista cuando he 
presentado problemas o alguna duda


Nada las gracias a todos por la ayuda, ya he ayudado a unos cuantos 
claro los que no tiene la red ni las posibilidades, teransmitiendoles 
los conocimiento sy programas que necesiten


Saludos a todos


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Re: Problema instalando paquetes en Debian 6 64bits

2012-09-28 Thread Evgeny M. Zubok
Leosbel Rojas leos...@pri.inv.cu writes:

 buenos días, estoy usando Debian 6 pero 64 bits, cada vez que intento
 instalar un paquete, cualquiera que este sea me da el siguiente error.

 Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
 Reading changelogs... Done
 Preconfiguring packages ...
 dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 615800:
  field name `Package2' must be followed by colon
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)

 Les agradeceria cualquier ayuda que me pudieran brindar.

 Atte, Leosbel

Prueba con la siguiente receta. Todas las acciones tienes que hacer como
root:

# dpkg --clear-avail
# apt-get update (o aptitude update)
# apt-get install dctrl-tools (o aptitude install dctrl-tools)
# sync-available

Listo.


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Shows Música para suas comemorações

2012-09-28 Thread Artistas
Queridos Amigos,
Quem é a pessoa responsável por contratar shows, artistas e palestrantes, para 
seus eventos, especialmente as confraternizações de final-de-ano, inaugurações, 
casamentos, aniversários, etc?
Temos um sensacional leque de opções que vão desde de pocket-musicais sobre a 
vida de Elvis Presley e Frank Sinatra, até MPB, Bossa Nova, Jazz, Sertanejo 
Americano, Rock N´Roll, Música Francesa, Grupos de Dança, Palestrantes sobre os 
mais diversos temas empresariais e muito mais!
Como podemos tratar desse assunto?
Atenciosamente,
The-Number-One Atividades Artísticas
i...@the-number-one.org
Atendemos à todo Brasil e Exterior


Vídeos para #globalNOISE Brasil

2012-09-28 Thread Thiago Zoroastro
Olá pessoal!
Gente, dos dias 12 ao 20 de outubro o mundo irá viver uma onda de barulho
conectando pessoas! Mas para você entender o que iremos tentar fazer, seria
muito útil PARA VOCÊ assistir o vídeo da FASE 2 - UNIFICAÇÃO  EDUCAÇÃO
para entender um pouco mais a dinâmica de funcionamento deste enorme
conglomerado de pessoas que se organizam Trabalhando em Rede.
Vídeo 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0jor3Z2IwE

Se você assistiu, você estará melhor preparado para entender qual a
metodologia aplicada nestas práticas e compreenderá para que serve a
construção de web[rede/teia] para o Trabalho em Rede (NetWork).
O vídeo 2 é uma mensagem anônima provavelmente construída pelo código
aberto da internet e que chama-lhes para fazer barulho nas ruas na Semana
de Ação Global 12 a 20 de Outubro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niWVoATtvSE
E o vídeo 3 é outro vídeo sobre #globalNOISE, mas com o Barulho e a
Mensagem da barulheira que as pessoas de todo o mundo estão fazendo
sinalizando para a Revolução do rizoma e chamando para a Semana de Ação
Global 12 a 20 de Outubro para  estabelecer espaços de discussão sobre o
futuro de nossa espécie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X_ORz0eseQ

Compartilhar é um ato de amor! Abraços e REVOLUÇÃO!
A Revolução é começar de novo. Conservar é manter no mesmo.

-- 
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Membro do Centro Acadêmico de Filosofia Leônidas Hegenberg

http://thiago-zoroastro.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/thiagoZoroastro

O mundo cada vez mais está tomando noção de que é um único organismo, e um
organismo que insiste em lutar contra si mesmo, está condenado à
destruição. - Carl Sagan




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destruição. - Carl Sagan


Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread lee
Because your disk is sleeping?
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Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/27/2012 10:07 AM, Jochen Spieker wrote:
 Tony Baldwin:
 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:33:45AM +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote:

 I also had to find the answer for 'IA64 or AMD64?'. AFAIR I used
 google and then I grepped /proc/cpuinfo for 'lm'.

 Isn't this just a question of whether you have a Pentium/Intel 64bit
 processor, or an AMD64?
 
 No, it isn't. And I am sure this exact misconception has already been
 resolved in this very thread.

Yes, it was, very early, by yours truly.

The only permanent solution to this confusion is for Debian to rename
the IA64 port to Itanium and rename the AMD64 port to something like
AMDINTL64.

The conventions Debian uses are based on the microarchitecture names,
which back in the day worked fine and were self explanatory:  i386,
IA64, 680x0, MIPS, ALPHA, SPARC, PPC, etc.

But when AMD released the x86-64 architecture in 2002, and Intel copied
it, creating two 64 bit chip families from Intel, the old naming
convention fell apart, as many laypeople can't make sense of it.

Granted the number of people unable/unwilling to figure this out on
their own is rather small, so those in charge simply haven't addressed
the issue.  Given how often this question is asked, I think changes
should be made to fix this.

Maybe we could start some kind of petition for Itanium and
AMDINTL64.  I think these tell everyone at a glance what they need to
know when selecting a port, and would completely eliminate the confusion.

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Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 20:27 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
 Try:
 
 $clive -f best http://vimeo.com/24972836;

Does it download and convert long YouTube videos on the fly or does it
take hours?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KufCS2ad0eE

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Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday, September 28, 2012 02:35:49 AM Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 The only permanent solution to this confusion is for Debian to rename
 the IA64 port to Itanium and rename the AMD64 port to something like
 AMDINTL64.

Something wrong with 'x86_64'?


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Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 02:52 -0400, Neal Murphy wrote:
 On Friday, September 28, 2012 02:35:49 AM Stan Hoeppner wrote:
  The only permanent solution to this confusion is for Debian to rename
  the IA64 port to Itanium and rename the AMD64 port to something like
  AMDINTL64.
 
 Something wrong with 'x86_64'?

FWIW I never noticed a difference between CONFIG_MK8 yes and not set for
real-time kernels. This x86_64 vs amd64 thingy does confuse newbies, but
after a while everybody understands why there are those name. i368? What
is it for? I only know 80386, never heard about 80368 ;). There are
enough explanations available regarding to the names. Changing names
only will cause more confusion.

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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Jude DaShiell
Could it be a missing swap partition is slowing down drive access?  I 
don't know if you were connected to the internet when you did this run, 
but if so, you might disconnect from the internet and run fdisk -l again 
and compare speeds.  It could be fdisk is checking for remote disks as 
well but I don't know that for sure.  hth.



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KDevelop Problem

2012-09-28 Thread Pietro Paolini
Hello,

I would like use KDevelop for browse souce code using the CTAGS, since now I 
had just use vi but now I need a GUI tools, my PC is running a Debian 6.0.5 32 
bit with GNOME.

My problem is that when I import a new project I can select the folder 
correctly but after that I see KDevelop bar working and after program simply 
show me nothing, no file directory tree no source, nothing!

Maybe someone can help me ?

Many Thanks,
Pietro .



Wacom Intuos dies after system suspend

2012-09-28 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
Hi!

I have a Wacom Intuos 2 Graphic Tablet connected through USB. When I
wake up the system after it's been in suspend-mode, the Wacom doesn't
work. According to Gimp it's still connected and checking with with
xinput gives me:

$ xinput --list --short
⎡ Virtual core pointer  id=2[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointerid=4[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Microsoft Microsoft Optical Mouse with Tilt Wheel id=10   [slave
pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3[master keyboard (2)]
↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard   id=5[slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button  id=6[slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button  id=7[slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ Logitech Logitech USB Keyboardid=8[slave  keyboard (3)]
↳ Logitech Logitech USB Keyboardid=9[slave  keyboard (3)]

But still the tablet doesn't react to the pointer at all, the only way
I can get it going again is by rebooting the system.
This happens in all of my Debian computers, Wheezy and Squeese (also
some Ubuntu derivatives I've tested).

Can someone enlighten me on this? Surely there must be a way to get
this going without rebooting? A command or something?

Cheers,
/Helgi Örn


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Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-28 Thread Siard
Celejar:
 lee:
  Celejar:
   If the website gives you a mms:// url, can wget download the
   content from that (I don't know, I've never tried it)?
  
  You'd have to try, the manpage of wget doesn't say and I don't have
  an URL to try it with.
 
 I'm pretty sure wget doesn't handle such urls.

There is a package named 'mimms' that is designed to download streams
using the MMS protocol.


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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 03:52:26AM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote:
 $ date; fdisk -l; date
 Thu Sep 27 22:48:21 UTC 2012
 
 Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
 Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x00052568
 
Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sda1  633908614419543041c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
 /dev/sda2390861457814015919527007+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
 /dev/sda378140160   23442047978140160   83  Linux
 /dev/sda4   234420480   488396799   1269881605  Extended
 /dev/sda5   234420543   3534259504728+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
 /dev/sda6   353430063   372981104 9775521c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
 /dev/sda7   372981168   392516144 9767488+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
 /dev/sda8   392516208   43157015919526976   83  Linux
 /dev/sda9   431570223   441353744 4891761   83  Linux
 /dev/sda10  441353808   446253569 2449881   83  Linux
 /dev/sda11  446253633   44981 1783183+  83  Linux
 /dev/sda12  449822720   48839679919287040   83  Linux
 Thu Sep 27 22:48:59 UTC 2012

So... fdisk -l took 38 seconds - which is a bit much.

Question: How long does fdisk -l /dev/sda take?  (note: specifying
/dev/sda explicitly, rather than fdisk figure it out)

If this is a lot shorter, then your problem may be related to how
fdisk chooses a default device to look at, and the contents of
/proc/partitions becomes interesting...

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Re: grub2.00-7 from experimental

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 schrieb Valery Mamonov:
 Downgrading grub packages to 1.99-23 from unstable did the trick, as I
 thought.
 System boots and works fine.

Ok, good.

Would be interesting to know what the error was.

In case you spare any free time, I´d look in the shell script update-grub 
or grub-mkconfig for the occurence of a part of the error message and look 
whats going on there.

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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
 Failing boot sector?
 Some other sector it has to read is failing?
 Check the logs. Try (from smartmontools):
~
 I don't know exactly which of your questions/suggestions running:
~
 smartctl -A /dev/sda | egrep -i sector|realloc
~
 relates to, but it didn't report any error message. Without grep I got:
~
$ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sda
smartctl 5.43 2012-05-01 r3539 [i686-linux-3.3.7] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   115   082   006Pre-fail
Always   -   96695847
  3 Spin_Up_Time0x0003   096   095   000Pre-fail
Always   -   0
  4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032   100   100   020Old_age
Always   -   365
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036Pre-fail
Always   -   0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f   075   060   030Pre-fail
Always   -   17316569764
  9 Power_On_Hours  0x0032   097   097   000Old_age
Always   -   2678
 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013   100   100   097Pre-fail
Always   -   0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count   0x0032   100   100   020Old_age
Always   -   395
187 Reported_Uncorrect  0x0032   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   0
189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   059   045   045Old_age
Always   In_the_past 41 (Min/Max 40/41)
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022   041   055   000Old_age
Always   -   41 (0 23 0 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   078   057   000Old_age
Always   -   102323103
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000Old_age
Always   -   0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000Old_age
Offline  -   0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x003e   200   200   000Old_age
Always   -   0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x   100   253   000Old_age
Offline  -   0
202 Data_Address_Mark_Errs  0x0032   100   253   000Old_age
Always   -   0

$

 Because your disk is sleeping?
~
 That I think may be the reason why. I did notice and check that it
always seems to happen after suspending my box, even if you unmount
all drives before, but what I don't get is that may people would be
complaining about that same problem. I have seem people complaining
all the time about hardware-related issues with suspending a box, but
not such delays and I always thought when you awaken your box after
suspending it, it should go to its initial state. Is there a way to
awaken all harddrive/partitions you are using?
~
 Could it be a missing swap partition is slowing down drive access?
~
$ cat /proc/swaps
FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority
/dev/zram0  partition   1942352 0   0
~
 I don't know if you were connected to the internet
~
 I wasn't, but I have notice weird things happening when I am and, of
course, my work horse box I don't connect to the Internet at all
~
 So... fdisk -l took 38 seconds - which is a bit much.
~
 Yep! Exactly 38 seconds!?!
~
$ date; fdisk -l; date
Fri Sep 28 07:13:45 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00052568

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1  633908614419543041c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2390861457814015919527007+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda378140160   23442047978140160   83  Linux
/dev/sda4   234420480   488396799   1269881605  Extended
/dev/sda5   234420543   3534259504728+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda6   353430063   372981104 9775521c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda7   372981168   392516144 9767488+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda8   392516208   43157015919526976   83  Linux
/dev/sda9   431570223   441353744 4891761   83  Linux
/dev/sda10  441353808   446253569 2449881   83  Linux
/dev/sda11  446253633   44981 1783183+  83  Linux
/dev/sda12  449822720   48839679919287040   83  Linux
Fri Sep 28 07:14:23 UTC 2012
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ date; fdisk -l; date
Fri Sep 28 07:14:41 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk 

Re: grub2.00-7 from experimental

2012-09-28 Thread Valery Mamonov
2012/9/28 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de

 Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 schrieb Valery Mamonov:
  Downgrading grub packages to 1.99-23 from unstable did the trick, as I
  thought.
  System boots and works fine.

 Ok, good.

 Would be interesting to know what the error was.

 In case you spare any free time, I´d look in the shell script update-grub
 or grub-mkconfig for the occurence of a part of the error message and look
 whats going on there.

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Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 28. September 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
 On 9/27/2012 10:07 AM, Jochen Spieker wrote:
  Tony Baldwin:
  On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:33:45AM +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer 
wrote:
  I also had to find the answer for 'IA64 or AMD64?'. AFAIR I used
  google and then I grepped /proc/cpuinfo for 'lm'.
  
  Isn't this just a question of whether you have a Pentium/Intel 64bit
  processor, or an AMD64?
 
  
 
  No, it isn't. And I am sure this exact misconception has already been
  resolved in this very thread.
 
 Yes, it was, very early, by yours truly.
 
 The only permanent solution to this confusion is for Debian to rename
 the IA64 port to Itanium and rename the AMD64 port to something like
 AMDINTL64.
 
 The conventions Debian uses are based on the microarchitecture names,
 which back in the day worked fine and were self explanatory:  i386,
 IA64, 680x0, MIPS, ALPHA, SPARC, PPC, etc.
 
 But when AMD released the x86-64 architecture in 2002, and Intel copied
 it, creating two 64 bit chip families from Intel, the old naming
 convention fell apart, as many laypeople can't make sense of it.

AMDINTL64 seems to long for me.

I think x86-64 would make some sense. SUSE for examples uses it.

Or even pc32 and pc64, since that is the classical PC platform.

But then why other workstations on Alpha, SPARC base should not be called 
PCs as well.

So maybe: x86-64 and x86-32. ;)

Similar thing with PowerPC. powerpc-32, powerpc-64?

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Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 28. September 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 02:52 -0400, Neal Murphy wrote:
  On Friday, September 28, 2012 02:35:49 AM Stan Hoeppner wrote:
   The only permanent solution to this confusion is for Debian to
   rename the IA64 port to Itanium and rename the AMD64 port to
   something like AMDINTL64.
  
  Something wrong with 'x86_64'?
 
 FWIW I never noticed a difference between CONFIG_MK8 yes and not set
 for real-time kernels. This x86_64 vs amd64 thingy does confuse
 newbies, but after a while everybody understands why there are those
 name. i368? What is it for? I only know 80386, never heard about 80368
 ;). There are enough explanations available regarding to the names.
 Changing names only will cause more confusion.

Hmmm, the thing is named i386, huh?

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Re: Two cronjobs for apticron?

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 schrieb Stephan Seitz:
 Hi!
 
 System: Debian Squeeze
 
 After the installation of apticron I noticed I have two cronjobs.
 One belongs to the package and is installed in /etc/cron.daily. It
 calls apticron without options.
 The other one is created by the postinst script in /etc/cron.d with
 a random start time. It calls apticron with the -cron option which
 creates a status file in /var, so that apticron only runs once a day.
 
 Since the first cronjob calls apticron without an option, apticron will
 run twice a day. Does anyone know the reason for this behaviour?

Maybe not.

Does apticron -cron yield a full apticron run or just update that status 
file?

Anything in /usr/share/doc/apticron/README.Debian.gz?

I use cronapt.

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Elegant solution for network-dependent cifs/smb mounting?

2012-09-28 Thread Johannes Graumann
Hi,

I am looking for a debian- (and optimally kde-) compatible solution that 
would allow me to mount cifs/smb network drives ONLY if on the network where 
they are expected to exist.

I there was a solution that would upon attempted access to adrive
a) check whether on the right network
b) check whether the corresponding server is up
c) if not b) was able to WakeOnLan the server - and wait for/monitor its 
sucessful boot
d) mount the drive

That would be the perfect solution ...

Thanks for any pointers.

Sincerely, Joh



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Re: Elegant solution for network-dependent cifs/smb mounting?

2012-09-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 02:45:26PM +0300, Johannes Graumann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am looking for a debian- (and optimally kde-) compatible solution that 
 would allow me to mount cifs/smb network drives ONLY if on the network where 
 they are expected to exist.
 
 I there was a solution that would upon attempted access to adrive
 a) check whether on the right network
 b) check whether the corresponding server is up
 c) if not b) was able to WakeOnLan the server - and wait for/monitor its 
 sucessful boot
 d) mount the drive
 
 That would be the perfect solution ...

Perhaps have a look at whereami. That is a set of scripts that fire when
you connect to a network. It can identify which network you're on (for
example, you got a DHCP response and it was in the range x.x.x.x to
x.x.x.y). I'm fairly certain there are tests for can I reach server
Foo?, and it wouldn't be too hard to add can I etherwake server Foo?.



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Re: Two cronjobs for apticron?

2012-09-28 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:37:09PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 schrieb Stephan Seitz:
Since the first cronjob calls apticron without an option, apticron 
will run twice a day. Does anyone know the reason for this behaviour?

Maybe not.
Does apticron -cron yield a full apticron run or just update that status
file?


No, it’s a full run. From the manpage:

The --cron option is only meant to be used when invoked by cron/anacron 
in order to run no more than once a day.



Anything in /usr/share/doc/apticron/README.Debian.gz?


Nope, nothing.


I use cronapt.


cron-apt? I didn’t find anything in its configuration, so that it would 
send the changelog as well.


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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Dom

On 28/09/12 11:30, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:

Hi

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 03:52:26AM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote:

$ date; fdisk -l; date
Thu Sep 27 22:48:21 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00052568

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1  633908614419543041c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2390861457814015919527007+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda378140160   23442047978140160   83  Linux
/dev/sda4   234420480   488396799   1269881605  Extended
/dev/sda5   234420543   3534259504728+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda6   353430063   372981104 9775521c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda7   372981168   392516144 9767488+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda8   392516208   43157015919526976   83  Linux
/dev/sda9   431570223   441353744 4891761   83  Linux
/dev/sda10  441353808   446253569 2449881   83  Linux
/dev/sda11  446253633   44981 1783183+  83  Linux
/dev/sda12  449822720   48839679919287040   83  Linux
Thu Sep 27 22:48:59 UTC 2012


So... fdisk -l took 38 seconds - which is a bit much.

Question: How long does fdisk -l /dev/sda take?  (note: specifying
/dev/sda explicitly, rather than fdisk figure it out)

If this is a lot shorter, then your problem may be related to how
fdisk chooses a default device to look at, and the contents of
/proc/partitions becomes interesting...

Hope this help


Also, try using time fdisk -l. The time command gives a slightly 
better idea of where the time is being spent that just using date before 
and after.


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Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-28 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:24:12 +0200
Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote:

 Celejar:
  lee:
   Celejar:
If the website gives you a mms:// url, can wget download the
content from that (I don't know, I've never tried it)?
   
   You'd have to try, the manpage of wget doesn't say and I don't have
   an URL to try it with.
  
  I'm pretty sure wget doesn't handle such urls.
 
 There is a package named 'mimms' that is designed to download streams
 using the MMS protocol.

Thanks - I usually just use vlc, which works well.

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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Dom

On 28/09/12 12:27, Albretch Mueller wrote:

Failing boot sector?
Some other sector it has to read is failing?
Check the logs. Try (from smartmontools):

~
  I don't know exactly which of your questions/suggestions running:
~
  smartctl -A /dev/sda | egrep -i sector|realloc
~
  relates to, but it didn't report any error message. Without grep I got:
~
$ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sda
smartctl 5.43 2012-05-01 r3539 [i686-linux-3.3.7] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   115   082   006Pre-fail
Always   -   96695847


Ok, your disk is dying. The Raw_Read_Error_Rate should be zero, or very low.


   7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f   075   060   030Pre-fail
Always   -   17316569764


That is also seriously bad.


   9 Power_On_Hours  0x0032   097   097   000Old_age
Always   -   2678


Is this a fairly new disk? Only 2678 hours use.


195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   078   057   000Old_age
Always   -   102323103


It looks like many errors have been recovered using ECC, so you probably 
wouldn't have noticed those.


It *is* possible that smartctl is mis-interpretting the status of your 
disk, but given your slow fdisk command I suspect not.


Time to backup, backup, backup, buy a new disk and transfer the data 
over asap.


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aptitude interpretation of dialog

2012-09-28 Thread james gray
after the initial dialog received from #aptitude safe-upgrade there was at
the end.

the following :


Need to get O B of archives. After unpacking O B will be used.


after that dialog, the command line was handed back


Question: what is O B.



I am working with the Debian Net Install 6.0 Squeeze. No GUI.

Thank you


Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:23:59PM +0100, Dom wrote:
 It *is* possible that smartctl is mis-interpretting the status of
 your disk, but given your slow fdisk command I suspect not.
 
 Time to backup, backup, backup, buy a new disk and transfer the data
 over asap.

YES to backup, but it's worth changing your SATA cable before investing
in a new disk, or at least ensuring your current one is seated properly.
Try to measure the *rate* that Hardware_ECC_Recovered is increasing over
a set period of time, check/replace cable, measure again.


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Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:35:49AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 Maybe we could start some kind of petition for Itanium and
 AMDINTL64.  I think these tell everyone at a glance what they need to
 know when selecting a port, and would completely eliminate the confusion.

Itanium will probably disappear as a supported release architecture sooner than
it would take to convince enough people it was worth renaming.


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Re: aptitude interpretation of dialog

2012-09-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 05:49:29AM -0700, james gray wrote:
after the initial dialog received from #aptitude safe-upgrade there was at
the end.�
 
the following :
 
Need to get O B of archives. After unpacking O B will be used.
 
after that dialog, the command line was handed back�
 
Question: what is O B.

Zero bytes. In other words, nothing needed to be downloaded and, after
installation (of nothing), no extra space would be needed.

This either means there are no new packages, or that you've already
downloaded the packages and the new packages won't take up any extra
space on your drive.



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Re: grub2.00-7 from experimental

2012-09-28 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 schrieb Valery Mamonov:

 Downgrading grub packages to 1.99-23 from unstable did the trick, as I
 thought.
 System boots and works fine.

 Ok, good.

 Would be interesting to know what the error was.

 In case you spare any free time, I´d look in the shell script update-grub
 or grub-mkconfig for the occurence of a part of the error message and look
 whats going on there.

(FYI, update-grub just calls grub-mkconfig)

I've just looked at Debian's grub2 source and there's a Debian
grub-mkconfig patch, mkconfig_mid_upgrade.patch:

Description: Bail out if trying to run grub-mkconfig during upgrade to 2.00
 Since files in /etc/grub.d/ are conffiles, they are not put in place until
 grub-common is configured, meaning that they may be out of sync with the
 parts of grub-mkconfig that reside in /usr/. In GRUB 1.99,
 /etc/grub.d/00_header contained a reference to ${GRUB_PREFIX}/video.lst.
 This and other code from 1.99 breaks with 2.00's grub-mkconfig. Deferring
 this to when grub-PLATFORM.postinst eventually runs is safe and avoids this
 problem.
Author: Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com
Forwarded: no
Last-Update: 2012-09-13

Index: b/util/grub-mkconfig.in
===
--- a/util/grub-mkconfig.in
+++ b/util/grub-mkconfig.in
@@ -99,6 +99,13 @@
 esac
 done

+if fgrep -qs '${GRUB_PREFIX}/video.lst' ${grub_mkconfig_dir}/00_header; then
+  echo GRUB = 2.00 has been unpacked but not yet configured. 2
+  echo grub-mkconfig will not work until the upgrade is complete. 2
+  echo It should run later as part of configuring the new GRUB packages. 2
+  exit 0
+fi
+
 if [ x$EUID = x ] ; then
   EUID=`id -u`
 fi


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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread lee
Albretch Mueller lbrt...@gmail.com writes:

 Because your disk is sleeping?
 ~
  That I think may be the reason why. I did notice and check that it
 always seems to happen after suspending my box, even if you unmount
 all drives before, but what I don't get is that may people would be
 complaining about that same problem. I have seem people complaining
 all the time about hardware-related issues with suspending a box, but
 not such delays and I always thought when you awaken your box after
 suspending it, it should go to its initial state.

It should go back to where you suspended or hibernated it, and it
doesn't.  If your disk is sleeping because its power management decided
to turn it off, it can take a while for it to wake up.  It might be a
good idea to check the power management settings with something like
hdparm.

 Is there a way to awaken all harddrive/partitions you are using?

fdisk -l seems to do that.  However, it's difficult to reasonably put to
sleep a disk which has partitions on it that are mounted, and it's very
questionable if it's reasonable to do so (unless it's an SSD maybe, if
those can be put to sleep at all).


How much money and energy do you actually save by putting disks to sleep
when you consider the possibility of increased wear and perhaps having
to replace them sooner than would otherwise be necessary?  Are there any
good studies aimed to answer this question?


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Re: Wacom Intuos dies after system suspend

2012-09-28 Thread lee
Helgi Örn Helgason sacredea...@gmail.com writes:

 Can someone enlighten me on this? Surely there must be a way to get
 this going without rebooting? A command or something?

Unplug it before suspend and plug it back in after waking up, or unplug
it and plug it back in after waking up?  Or don't suspend ...


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Re: Two cronjobs for apticron?

2012-09-28 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 08:30:36PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:

System: Debian Squeeze
After the installation of apticron I noticed I have two cronjobs.


This is fixed in Testing as I have noticed. The package apticron doesn’t 
ship a file in /etc/cron.daily anymore but only creates one in 
/etc/cron.d.


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Fwd: mounting extern FREECOM HD in squeeze

2012-09-28 Thread Filipe Freire
Hi
resending as it did not seem to reach the list.  Sorry if this was not the
case.-
Filipe

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From: Filipe Freire freire...@gmail.com
Date: 27 September 2012 12:42
Subject: mounting extern FREECOM HD in squeeze
To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org


Dear All!

I am having problems getting a stable mount of an extern FREECOM HD on
debian squeeze.

Sometimes it mounts and by running
# blkid -o list -c /dev/null

get

/dev/sdb1  vfatFREECOM HDD /media/FREECOM HDD 13EC-4051

but it often umounts while copying files and can not mount it again.  Tried
placing the line in fstab

UUID=13EC-4051  /media/Ext-HD vfat defaults,auto,exec,users,rw 0 0

but get

mount: special device UUID=13EC-4051 does not exist

also /dev/sdb1 is gone.

Any missing mod that I should look for?

Any ideas are welcome.

Thank you in advance,
Filipe


PS what should be a relevant part from running dmesg is:

[  193.043620] USB Mass Storage support registered.
[  194.046020] scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access Freecom  Hard Drive XS
 1.00 PQ
: 0 ANSI: 4
[  194.046736] sd 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[  194.047446] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] 3907029168 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00
TB/1.
81 TiB)
[  194.053731] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[  194.053734] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 38 00 00 00
[  194.060095] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[  194.060099] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  194.073837] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[  194.073840] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  194.090570]  sdb: sdb1
[  194.105295] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[  194.105298] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  194.105300] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[  195.430432] FAT-fs (sdb1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT
filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[  291.152427] usb 4-1.1: USB disconnect, device number 7
[  291.152801] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled error code
[  291.152803] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb]  Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT
driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[  291.152806] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 03 20 f0 7f 00 00 f0
00
[  291.152811] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 52490367
[  291.152830] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled error code
[  291.152831] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb]  Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT
driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[  291.152833] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 03 20 f1 6f 00 00 10
00
[  291.152837] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 52490607
[  291.275859] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 8 using ehci_hcd
[  291.347612] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  291.523504] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  291.699237] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 9 using ehci_hcd
[  291.771127] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  291.946866] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  292.122578] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 10 using ehci_hcd
[  292.529829] usb 4-1.1: device not accepting address 10, error -32
[  292.601888] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 11 using ehci_hcd
[  293.009116] usb 4-1.1: device not accepting address 11, error -32
[  293.009290] hub 4-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[  299.624267] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556096) failed
[  299.624271] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556097) failed
[  299.624274] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556098) failed
[  299.624276] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556099) failed
[  299.624278] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556100) failed
...

[  299.624403] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556158) failed
[  299.624405] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556159) failed
[  347.480149] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 12 using ehci_hcd
[  347.552040] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  347.72] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  347.903515] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 13 using ehci_hcd
[  347.975405] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  348.151145] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32


Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
 I just backed up all the data
~
 Yet, it seems something else may be (also?) somehow relating to those
delays. Since I start knoppix 7.0.2 as:
~
 knoppix no3d fromhd=/dev/sda9
~
 could these issues/problems relate to the fact that /dev/sda9 is
mounted read-only and knoppix keeps it to itself throughout its
running time?
~
 See bellow the fdisk -l timings when I run knoppix from the dvd
~
 lbrtchx

// __ fdisk -l

$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:20:26 UTC 2012
real 0m0.014s
$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:20:28 UTC 2012
real 0m0.012s
$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:20:29 UTC 2012
real 0m0.012s
$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:20:29 UTC 2012
real 0m0.013s

// __ fdisk -l /dev/sda

$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l /dev/sda) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:20:35 UTC 2012
real 0m0.002s
$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l /dev/sda) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:20:36 UTC 2012
real 0m0.002s
$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l /dev/sda) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:20:37 UTC 2012
real 0m0.002s
$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l /dev/sda) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:20:38 UTC 2012
real 0m0.002s


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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Dom

On 28/09/12 13:52, Jon Dowland wrote:

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:23:59PM +0100, Dom wrote:

It *is* possible that smartctl is mis-interpretting the status of
your disk, but given your slow fdisk command I suspect not.

Time to backup, backup, backup, buy a new disk and transfer the data
over asap.


YES to backup, but it's worth changing your SATA cable before investing
in a new disk, or at least ensuring your current one is seated properly.
Try to measure the *rate* that Hardware_ECC_Recovered is increasing over
a set period of time, check/replace cable, measure again.



Good points, which I did think of *after* I'd posted my comment.

Good catch. :-)

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RE: Is it possible to monitor VTs via ssh?

2012-09-28 Thread craig
Good morning,  When I ssh into a remote system, I am able to see what is 
happening on VT2 by entering the command 'cat /dev/vcs2'. I tried using tail -f 
to get a continuous output of the console, but it fails to ever update. Is it 
possible to watch another VT in real time over ssh?  Thanks, Craig



What I am trying to do is monitor logs on a remote system. I have the log 
entries going
to the log files as well as VT2. If I ssh into the machine and tail -f the 
system log,
it quits updating when the log is rotated. So I figured if I could watch the 
second
console in real time I would be able to see the same thing without interruption 
when
the log file rotates. Is this possible? Is there a better way to do it?


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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
 in a box in which I use the fromhd stanza using a disk which smartclt
reports as being fine the results before and after suspending are the
same
~
 this is what the dying disk reports
~
$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:52:58 UTC 2012
real 0m0.191s
$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:52:59 UTC 2012
real 0m0.055s
$ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X
Fri Sep 28 10:53:00 UTC 2012
real 0m0.052s
~
 it then stabilize around 0.050s
~
 For the good ones time consistently reports 0.003s
~
 the thing is (for more than one reason) I use a crappy box to go online
~
 Also, any comprehensive documentation regarding hd's health?
smartctl's is OK to get by, but you are telling me about logs I don't
know about and I would like to know more about the physics of it
~
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Re: Is it possible to monitor VTs via ssh?

2012-09-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:20:16AM -0500, cr...@gtek.biz wrote:
 Good morning,  When I ssh into a remote system, I am able to see what is 
 happening on VT2 by entering the command 'cat /dev/vcs2'. I tried using tail 
 -f to get a continuous output of the console, but it fails to ever update. Is 
 it possible to watch another VT in real time over ssh?  Thanks, Craig

Try the vtgrab package.



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Re: Is it possible to monitor VTs via ssh?

2012-09-28 Thread craig


On Friday, September 28, 2012 10:29, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk 
said:

 On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:20:16AM -0500, cr...@gtek.biz wrote:
 Good morning,  When I ssh into a remote system, I am able to see what is
 happening on VT2 by entering the command 'cat /dev/vcs2'. I tried using tail 
 -f
 to get a continuous output of the console, but it fails to ever update. Is it
 possible to watch another VT in real time over ssh?  Thanks, Craig
 
 Try the vtgrab package.
 
 
Bingo! Thank you so much. I didn't even think of a vnc like console solution.
I was focused on ssh. Your reply is much appreciated.


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Re: Is it possible to monitor VTs via ssh?

2012-09-28 Thread Dom

On 28/09/12 16:20, cr...@gtek.biz wrote:

Good morning,  When I ssh into a remote system, I am able to see what is 
happening on VT2 by entering the command 'cat /dev/vcs2'. I tried using tail -f 
to get a continuous output of the console, but it fails to ever update. Is it 
possible to watch another VT in real time over ssh?  Thanks, Craig



What I am trying to do is monitor logs on a remote system. I have the log 
entries going
to the log files as well as VT2. If I ssh into the machine and tail -f the 
system log,
it quits updating when the log is rotated. So I figured if I could watch the 
second
console in real time I would be able to see the same thing without interruption 
when
the log file rotates. Is this possible? Is there a better way to do it?


Try tail --follow=mylogfile, this will followed the currently named 
mylogfile even if the old file is renamed and a new one opened, rather 
than following the old file which -f does.


Also the -F option will do similar, but won't fail if the file is 
inaccessible for a while.


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Re: Is it possible to monitor VTs via ssh?

2012-09-28 Thread shawn wilson
On Sep 28, 2012 11:30 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:20:16AM -0500, cr...@gtek.biz wrote:
  Good morning,  When I ssh into a remote system, I am able to see what
is happening on VT2 by entering the command 'cat /dev/vcs2'. I tried using
tail -f to get a continuous output of the console, but it fails to ever
update. Is it possible to watch another VT in real time over ssh?  Thanks,
Craig

 Try the vtgrab package.



That would work. However I think you could also have logrotate use a socket
for logging (at least -ng). What you might really want to look into is
splunk or graylog2 (or the other solutions I can never remember).

Also, socat is another solution for playing with device io. I don't believe
dealing with vt is the right solution however. Also keep in mind none of
these solutions will encrypt the stream - use stunnel or similar here.


Re: Two cronjobs for apticron?

2012-09-28 Thread Jacek Politowski
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 03:31:19PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 08:30:36PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:

After the installation of apticron I noticed I have two cronjobs.

This is fixed in Testing as I have noticed. The package apticron
doesn’t ship a file in /etc/cron.daily anymore but only creates one
in /etc/cron.d.

See bug #587597 for more information.


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Re: Is it possible to monitor VTs via ssh?

2012-09-28 Thread craig
 Try tail --follow=mylogfile, this will followed the currently named
 mylogfile even if the old file is renamed and a new one opened, rather
 than following the old file which -f does.
 

smack to the forehead
I used to know that. Sadly, I even looked at the man page yesterday
before posting and still missed that. Thanks for jogging my brain. It
obviously needed it.

FWIW, I will be setting up a log server in the near future, but we need
this production machine now, and I've got a couple of other priorities,
so I just have an xterm open for monitoring it's logs in real time so I
can start to understand what is normal and what is not for now. The log
server will negate this step.

Thanks!


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Re: Is it possible to monitor VTs via ssh?

2012-09-28 Thread craig
 That would work. However I think you could also have logrotate use a socket
 for logging (at least -ng). What you might really want to look into is
 splunk or graylog2 (or the other solutions I can never remember).
 
 Also, socat is another solution for playing with device io. I don't believe
 dealing with vt is the right solution however. Also keep in mind none of
 these solutions will encrypt the stream - use stunnel or similar here.
 

Thanks for the ideas, and the heads up. I'll test my various new options this
afternoon and decide what will work in the interim until I get the log server
set up, probably next week or the week after.


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Re: No shutdown after processor change

2012-09-28 Thread Artifex Maximus
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
 On 9/26/2012 11:14 AM, Artifex Maximus wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Selim T. Erdogan
 se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu wrote:
 Artifex Maximus, 18.09.2012:
 Did you make any software updates to the system?  I have a pretty old
 computer that is using wheezy and as I updated debian within the past
 weeks it went back and forth between turning off properly and stalling
 with system halted on the screen.  I don't remember which one it's
 been doing most recently.

 No I did not upgrade my system that time. Since then I do several
 times but with the same result. The problem probably somewhere else
 because if I am in the BIOS and press power button the system (CPU)
 stops/freeze but the screen remains on and have to switch off with
 power button on PSU. Later the system does not always detect the HDDs
 at system start which is scaring. So I bought a new ASUS G41 board and
 a new PSU. Hope that works. Actually I do not have time for build the
 new system so there will be no new info till Friday. Might I first
 will try to change only the CPU back to E5200 and see the errors gone
 or still there. If gone the problem is clearly CPU related.

 Sorry for being late for the game.  In nearly all cases this behavior is
 a result of a new processor and an old BIOS whose code was not written
 for the new processor.  Simply flashing the system with the latest BIOS
 usually fixes such issues.  I don't see that mentioned above.  Before
 installing the new Asus board, I suggest putting the E5200 back in.
 Confirm everything works as it did before relating to power switch,
 device detection, etc.  If it works, flash with the latest BIOS.  Reboot
 and verify new BIOS is working.  If so, power down and install the
 E8400.  The problems should be gone.

Thanks for your answer. I already installed my new board and
everything is fine. I tried E5200 and old motherboard lives again. So
my old board clearly not handle E8400. So bad. My new motherboard
handle E8400 and knows VT which is great.

 I might be able to give you definitive information but you didn't state
 your current mobo make/model.  This problem is likely documented in the
 errata, along with the solution, which is likely upgrade to BIOS
 version x.xx.xxx or later.

It's a Fujitsu-Siemens G31T-M2 manufactured by ECS but no such board
on ECS site. I flashed the last BIOS some years ago as BIOS is from
2008 and no success. Fujitsu support wrote an email that Linux and
E8400 is not supported by them.

Bye,
a


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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday, September 28, 2012 08:23:59 AM Dom wrote:
 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   115   082   006Pre-fail
  
  Always   -   96695847
 
 Ok, your disk is dying. The Raw_Read_Error_Rate should be zero, or very
 low.


Not necessarily. At least one disk mfr (Seagate?) puts large values in these 
fields. Cause me a few moments' consternation the first time I saw it on my 
own drives


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Re: mounting extern FREECOM HD in squeeze

2012-09-28 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

Hi,

On 27/09/12 12:42, Filipe Freire wrote:

Dear All!

I am having problems getting a stable mount of an extern FREECOM HD on
debian squeeze.

Sometimes it mounts and by running
# blkid -o list -c /dev/null

get

/dev/sdb1  vfatFREECOM HDD /media/FREECOM HDD 13EC-4051

but it often umounts while copying files and can not mount it again.  Tried
placing the line in fstab

UUID=13EC-4051  /media/Ext-HD vfat defaults,auto,exec,users,rw 0 0

but get

mount: special device UUID=13EC-4051 does not exist

also /dev/sdb1 is gone.

Any missing mod that I should look for?

Any ideas are welcome.

Thank you in advance,
Filipe


PS what should be a relevant part from running dmesg is:

[  193.043620] USB Mass Storage support registered.
[  194.046020] scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access Freecom  Hard Drive XS
  1.00 PQ
: 0 ANSI: 4
[  194.046736] sd 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[  194.047446] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] 3907029168 512-byte logical blocks:
(2.00 TB/1.
81 TiB)
[  194.053731] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[  194.053734] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 38 00 00 00
[  194.060095] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[  194.060099] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  194.073837] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[  194.073840] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  194.090570]  sdb: sdb1
[  194.105295] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[  194.105298] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  194.105300] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[  195.430432] FAT-fs (sdb1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for
FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[  291.152427] usb 4-1.1: USB disconnect, device number 7
[  291.152801] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled error code
[  291.152803] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb]  Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT
driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[  291.152806] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 03 20 f0 7f 00 00
f0 00
[  291.152811] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 52490367
[  291.152830] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled error code
[  291.152831] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb]  Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT
driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[  291.152833] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 03 20 f1 6f 00 00
10 00
[  291.152837] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 52490607
[  291.275859] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 8 using ehci_hcd
[  291.347612] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  291.523504] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  291.699237] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 9 using ehci_hcd
[  291.771127] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  291.946866] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  292.122578] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 10 using ehci_hcd
[  292.529829] usb 4-1.1: device not accepting address 10, error -32
[  292.601888] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 11 using ehci_hcd
[  293.009116] usb 4-1.1: device not accepting address 11, error -32
[  293.009290] hub 4-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[  299.624267] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556096) failed
[  299.624271] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556097) failed
[  299.624274] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556098) failed
[  299.624276] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556099) failed
[  299.624278] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556100) failed
...

[  299.624403] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556158) failed
[  299.624405] FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 138556159) failed
[  347.480149] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 12 using ehci_hcd
[  347.552040] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  347.72] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  347.903515] usb 4-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 13 using ehci_hcd
[  347.975405] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[  348.151145] usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32


There seem to be quite a bit of error messages, googling the error 
there's a guy claiming that it's actually a hardware problem related to 
consumption...


http://paulphilippov.com/articles/how_to_fix_device_not_accepting_address_error

Lorenzo


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Server upgrade to wheezy failed

2012-09-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
My server upgrade from squeeze to wheezy just failed.  But I'm not 
panicking, I can still dual-boot into a back-up squeeze partition, and 
squeeze still works perfectly.

I just upgraded my server from squeeze to wheezy.  Lots of packages 
failed to upgrade because of dependency problems.  Now it's normal to 
have a few like this in a testing system, as packages leak through from 
sid, so I wasn't too worried about this -- normally just wait a few days 
and the missing dependencies show up.

But enough are missing that wheezy is not really usable.

It fails to recognise any network interfaces.  It used to recognise an 
eth0, an eth1, and a ppp0, but now ifconfig reports nothing.  Of course, 
this might not even be the fault of the missing packages.  Maybe udev is 
wrong.  Yes, I started the upgrade with the kernel and udev.  They should 
match.

I'm not sure where to start looking.

apt-get dist-upgrade just reports a lot of unresolved dependencies.  I'm 
not clear what to do next.  apt-get suggests using apt-get -f install.  
But which packages do I do this to?  Or do I misunderstand? 

And with the net down, even if I figure out what to uninstall (aptitude 
has over 200 candidates for this) there's probably little hope of having 
apt-get download further packages normally.  But if I can figure out what 
to remove, I may well be able to install some that have already been 
downloaded during the dist-upgrade.

Yes, I did use script to log everything.  But the complete output is 
rather lengthy.

I append the messages apt-get dist-upgrade now gives me.  Are any of 
these likely the cause of my problems?  They don't look like trouble to 
me, but what do I know?

-- hendrik

april:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 alacarte : Depends: gir1.2-gtk-3.0 but it is not installed
Depends: gir1.2-gmenu-3.0 but it is not installed
Depends: gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 but it is not installed
 brasero : Depends: libbrasero-media3-1 (= 3.4.1-3) but it is not 
installed
   Depends: libnautilus-extension1a (= 2.91) but it is not 
installed
   Depends: libtotem-plparser17 (= 2.32) but 2.30.3-1 is 
installed
   Depends: libtracker-sparql-0.14-0 (= 0.10.0) but it is not 
installed
 emacs23 : Depends: gconf-service but it is not installed
 gconf2 : Depends: gconf-service (= 3.2.5-1+build1) but it is not 
installed
 gimp : Depends: libgimp2.0 (= 2.8.2) but 2.6.10-1+squeeze3 is installed
Depends: gimp-data (= 2.8.2) but 2.6.10-1+squeeze3 is installed
Depends: libbabl-0.1-0 (= 0.1.10) but it is not installed
Depends: libgegl-0.2-0 (= 0.2.0) but it is not installed
Depends: libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 (= 1.5.1) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libpoppler-glib8 (= 0.18) but it is not installed
Depends: libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 (= 1.3.10) but it is not installed
 gnome-control-center : Depends: libcanberra-gtk3-0 (= 0.25) but it is 
not installed
Depends: libcheese-gtk21 (= 3.4.0) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libcheese3 (= 3.0.1) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libclutter-1.0-0 (= 1.10.0) but it is 
not installed
Depends: libcogl-pango0 (= 1.7.4) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libcogl9 (= 1.7.4) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libgnome-bluetooth10 (= 3.4.0) but it 
is not installed
Depends: libgnome-desktop-3-2 (= 3.2.0) but it 
is not installed
Depends: libgnome-menu-3-0 (= 3.2.0.1) but it is 
not installed
Depends: libgnomekbd7 (= 2.91.91) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libgoa-1.0-0 (= 3.1.1) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libjson-glib-1.0-0 (= 0.12.0) but it is 
not installed
Depends: libnm-glib4 (= 0.8.998) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libnm-gtk0 (= 0.9.1.95) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libnm-util2 (= 0.8.998) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libnotify4 (= 0.7.3) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libpolkit-gobject-1-0 (= 0.99) but 
0.96-4+squeeze2 is installed
Depends: libpulse-mainloop-glib0 (= 0.99.1) but 
0.9.21-3+squeeze1 is installed
Depends: libpulse0 (= 0.99.1) but 0.9.21-3
+squeeze1 is installed
Depends: libsocialweb-client2 (= 0.25.3) but it 
is not installed
Depends: libwacom2 (= 0.3) but it is not 
installed
Depends: accountsservice but it is not installed
Depends: apg but it is not installed

GRUB problem after clone

2012-09-28 Thread Artifex Maximus
Hello!

I would like to move from old 320GB HDD to a new 1TB HDD. I have the
following partition structure:

sda1 - XP
sda2 - Debian 7 x86_64 (boot partition)
sda3 - swap

The GRUB is on the sda2 partition not in the MBR. That's why sda2 is
the boot partition. If I set sda1 as boot partition XP runs. I just do
not want to disturb original MBR loader code.

I clone my system to a new bigger HDD using Clonezilla 2 for Linux. At
start GRUB loader only writes GRUB on the screen and nothing else
happen. If I set sda1 as boot XP load and works fine. I've tried to
reinstall grub under RIPLinux x86_64 with mount sda2 and chroot but no
success. update-grub displays no error but no success. The Linux
filesystem including /boot folder and grub is there. Most likely there
is some missing piece which is not part of filesystem therefore
clonezilla misses that part.

My question is what is the recommended way of reinstall GRUB after
cloning in such situation? Why update-grub does not works? Might try
to copy with dd and resize later?

Bye,
a


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Re: Wacom Intuos dies after system suspend

2012-09-28 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On 28 September 2012 15:26, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
 Helgi Örn Helgason sacredea...@gmail.com writes:

 Can someone enlighten me on this? Surely there must be a way to get
 this going without rebooting? A command or something?

 Unplug it before suspend and plug it back in after waking up, or unplug
 it and plug it back in after waking up?  Or don't suspend ...

Unplugging/replugging has never helped.
If not suspending had been an option then I wouldn't have asked for help.


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Re: Using wget to fill in a form

2012-09-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:01:51 -0500, craig wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 I have a small book collection (~150) that I thought would be neat to
 catalog by the Library of Congress catalog numbers.

This isn't what you asked for at all, but you might consider the BLISS 
classification instead.  It's more modern, and its classification guides 
are legitimately available for free download.  Some are scanned PDFs, 
others are available as source code (XML, I believe).

They've learned a lot about the structure of classification systems since 
LC was set up.

It's used by a number of libraries in England, I believe.

-- hendrik


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Re: Using wget to fill in a form

2012-09-28 Thread John Hasler
Hendrik Boom writes:
 It's more modern, and its classification guides are legitimately
 available for free download.

What about LCC is not in the public domain?

http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/lcco/
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command isn't working in crontab

2012-09-28 Thread Tomas Hulata
Hello, below command works in command line but not as a cronjob can 
someone explain me why?


23 58  * * *   rootcd /some_path/;mkdir CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y);mv 
./CAM1/*.* ./CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)/;mkdir CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y);mv 
./CAM2/*.* ./CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)/


I want to move files from /some_path/CAM1 directory to directory called 
CAM1-'today date' and the  same for /some_path/CAM2 directory


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Re: command isn't working in crontab

2012-09-28 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday, September 28, 2012 07:35:04 PM Tomas Hulata wrote:
 Hello, below command works in command line but not as a cronjob can
 someone explain me why?
 
 23 58  * * *   rootcd /some_path/;mkdir CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y);mv
 ./CAM1/*.* ./CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)/;mkdir CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y);mv
 ./CAM2/*.* ./CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)/
 
 I want to move files from /some_path/CAM1 directory to directory called
 CAM1-'today date' and the  same for /some_path/CAM2 directory

Perhaps cron doesn't know how to run those commands. Try:
23 58  * * *   root/bin/bash -c cd /some_path/;mkdir \CAM1-$(date +%d.
%m.%Y)\;mv ./CAM1/*.* ./\CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)\/;mkdir \CAM2-$(date +%d.
%m.%Y)\;mv ./CAM2/*.* ./\CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)\/


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Re: command isn't working in crontab

2012-09-28 Thread Tomas Hulata
double quotes are OK but % is not, it is special character in crontab , 
I have found it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron


On 29.09.2012 02:05, Neal Murphy wrote:

On Friday, September 28, 2012 07:35:04 PM Tomas Hulata wrote:

Hello, below command works in command line but not as a cronjob can
someone explain me why?

23 58  * * *   rootcd /some_path/;mkdir CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y);mv
./CAM1/*.* ./CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)/;mkdir CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y);mv
./CAM2/*.* ./CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)/

I want to move files from /some_path/CAM1 directory to directory called
CAM1-'today date' and the  same for /some_path/CAM2 directory

Perhaps cron doesn't know how to run those commands. Try:
23 58  * * *   root/bin/bash -c cd /some_path/;mkdir \CAM1-$(date +%d.
%m.%Y)\;mv ./CAM1/*.* ./\CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)\/;mkdir \CAM2-$(date +%d.
%m.%Y)\;mv ./CAM2/*.* ./\CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)\/





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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   115   082   006Pre-fail
  
   Always   -   96695847
 
  Ok, your disk is dying. The Raw_Read_Error_Rate should be zero, or very
  low.

 Not necessarily. At least one disk mfr (Seagate?) puts large values in these
 fields. Cause me a few moments' consternation the first time I saw it on my
 own drives
~
 Indeed! Something spooky may be going on. After taking the drive
out in order to back it up, I have run fdisk -l with no disk and
sometimes with a pen drive inserted and these bellow are the results I
got.
~
 Don't you find all of this downright weird?
~
 I don't believe in ghosts ;-) What do you think I could do to
troubleshoot this further?
~
 lbrtchx
~

$ time fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes
39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *806415638527 7815232c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

real0m38.106s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.000s

$ mount /media/sda1

$ time fdisk -l
konqueror(2828)/kdecore (KLibrary) findLibraryInternal: plugins should
not have a 'lib' prefix: libkhtmlpart.so
konqueror(2828)/kdecore (KLibrary) kde4Factory: The library
/usr/lib/kde4/khtml_kget.so does not offer a qt_plugin_instance
function.

Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes
39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *806415638527 7815232c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

real0m38.107s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.000s

$ sudo umount /media/sda1

$ time fdisk -l

real0m38.314s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.000s

$ _DT=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`; dmesg  dmesg_${_DT}.log

$ date; time fdisk -l; date
Fri Sep 28 20:51:09 UTC 2012

real0m38.097s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.000s
Fri Sep 28 20:51:47 UTC 2012

$ _DT=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`; dmesg  dmesg_${_DT}.log

$ ls -l dmesg_*.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 knoppix knoppix 15493 Sep 28 20:50 dmesg_20120928205055.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 knoppix knoppix 15490 Sep 28 20:51 dmesg_20120928205157.log

$ wc -l dmesg_*.log
  298 dmesg_20120928205055.log
  299 dmesg_20120928205157.log
  597 total

$ diff dmesg_20120928205055.log dmesg_20120928205157.log
1c1
 090] ehci_hcd :00:13.2: wake-up capability enabled by ACPI
---
 PI
298a299
 [26607.877660] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
$

$ cat dmesg_20120928205055.log
090] ehci_hcd :00:13.2: wake-up capability enabled by ACPI
[ 4008.172988] ohci_hcd :00:13.1: wake-up capability enabled by ACPI
[ 4008.173025] ohci_hcd :00:13.0: wake-up capability enabled by ACPI
[ 4008.173066] PM: late suspend of devices complete after 13.416 msecs
[ 4008.173239] ACPI: Preparing to enter system sleep state S3
[ 4008.173322] PM: Saving platform NVS memory
[ 4008.173361] Disabling non-boot CPUs ...
[ 4008.173361] ACPI: Low-level resume complete
[ 4008.173361] PM: Restoring platform NVS memory
[ 4008.173361] ACPI: Waking up from system sleep state S3
[ 4008.173361] ohci_hcd :00:13.0: wake-up capability disabled by ACPI
[ 4008.173361] ohci_hcd :00:13.1: wake-up capability disabled by ACPI
[ 4008.173361] ehci_hcd :00:13.2: wake-up capability disabled by ACPI
[ 4008.173361] PM: early resume of devices complete after 0.718 msecs
[ 4008.176363]  pci:00: wake-up capability disabled by ACPI
[ 4008.176442] radeon :01:00.0: f529d800 unpin not necessary
[ 4008.178326] serial 00:08: activated
[ 4008.178771] parport_pc 00:09: activated
[ 4008.189307] [drm] radeon: 1 quad pipes, 1 z pipes initialized.
[ 4008.201519] [drm] PCIE GART of 512M enabled (table at 0x0004).
[ 4008.201531] radeon :01:00.0: WB enabled
[ 4008.201534] [drm] fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 0x1000
and cpu addr 0xff885000
[ 4008.201621] [drm] radeon: ring at 0x10001000
[ 4008.201651] [drm] ring test succeeded in 7 usecs
[ 4008.201667] [drm] ib test succeeded in 0 usecs
[ 4008.496304] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[ 4008.496352] ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[ 4008.600352] ata3.00: ACPI cmd ef/03:0c:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES)
filtered out
[ 4008.600356] ata3.00: ACPI cmd ef/03:42:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES)
filtered out
[ 4008.600360] ata3.00: ACPI cmd f5/00:00:00:00:00:a0 (SECURITY FREEZE
LOCK) filtered out
[ 4008.606911] ata3.00: configured for UDMA/33
[ 4013.233591] psmouse serio1: hgpk: ID: 10 00 64
[ 4015.679626]
[ 4015.679628] floppy driver state
[ 4015.679629] ---
[ 4015.679637] now=1114704 last interrupt=1109734 diff=4970 last
called handler=recal_interrupt
[ 4015.679639] 

Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday, September 28, 2012 08:58:47 PM Albretch Mueller wrote:
   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   115   082   006Pre-fail

Always   -   96695847
   
   Ok, your disk is dying. The Raw_Read_Error_Rate should be zero, or very
   low.
  
  Not necessarily. At least one disk mfr (Seagate?) puts large values in
  these fields. Cause me a few moments' consternation the first time I saw
  it on my own drives
 
 ~
  Indeed! Something spooky may be going on. After taking the drive
 out in order to back it up, I have run fdisk -l with no disk and
 sometimes with a pen drive inserted and these bellow are the results I
 got.
 ~
  Don't you find all of this downright weird?

Not yet.

 ~
  I don't believe in ghosts ;-) What do you think I could do to
 troubleshoot this further?

Have you tried fdisk -l /dev/sda? I think you did, to no avail. It might be 
searching some other drive or type of drive first that is slow to respond.

Check the drive's power state:
  hdparm -C /dev/sda

How about:
  tail -f /var/log/messages  # In a separate window
  time dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=1
  time fdisk -l /dev/sda
to see if the drive is dozing.

Or (from hdparm's man page:  Disable  the  automatic power-saving
function of certain Seagate drives...):
  hdparm -Z /dev/sda


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Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Albretch Mueller
~
 I think there may be a number of things going on here. Let me first
answer Neal's questions:
~
 Have you tried fdisk -l /dev/sda?
~
 Well, there are no disk attached whatsoever to my box. I am using a
bear live CD (knoppix 7.0.2) right off the DVD drive
~
 How about:
   tail -f /var/log/messages  # In a separate window
~
 file seems to be empty
~
$ date; time sudo ls -l /KNOPPIX/var/log/messages
Fri Sep 28 21:55:38 UTC 2012
-rw-r- 1 syslog adm 0 May 13 02:17 /KNOPPIX/var/log/messages

real0m0.012s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.007s
~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~
 Without having any drive attached I booted into init 2 using:
~
 boot: knoppix no3d init 2
~
 and fdisk -l was returning with timings bellow 0.010s. Then I
suspended the box (again no hard drives attached whatsoever) and after
awakening the box fdisk -l started giving me the 38+ seconds
responses
~
 So it may not be a hard drive dying issue after all. Am I the only
debian user suspending his box to whom that happens?
~
 lbrtchx
~
$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:14:08 UTC 2012
real 0m0.009s

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:14:10 UTC 2012
real 0m0.009s

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:14:11 UTC 2012
real 0m0.009s
sys 0m0.003s

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:14:12 UTC 2012
real 0m0.009s

$ sudo mount /media/sda1

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:14:45 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes
39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *806415638527 7815232c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

real 0m0.017s

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:14:49 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes
39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *806415638527 7815232c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

real 0m0.015s

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:14:50 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes
39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *806415638527 7815232c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

real 0m0.013s

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:14:51 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes
39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *806415638527 7815232c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

real 0m0.014s

$ sudo umount /media/sda1

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:15:02 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes
39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *806415638527 7815232c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

real 0m0.025s
user 0m0.003s

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:15:03 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes
39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *806415638527 7815232c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

real 0m0.022s

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:15:04 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes
39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *806415638527 7815232c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

real 0m0.024s

$ date; time fdisk -l
Fri Sep 28 21:15:04 UTC 2012

Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes
39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 

Re: command isn't working in crontab

2012-09-28 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 01:35:04AM +0200, Tomas Hulata wrote:
 Hello, below command works in command line but not as a cronjob can  
 someone explain me why?

 23 58  * * *   rootcd /some_path/;mkdir CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y);mv  
 ./CAM1/*.* ./CAM1-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)/;mkdir CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y);mv  
 ./CAM2/*.* ./CAM2-$(date +%d.%m.%Y)/

 I want to move files from /some_path/CAM1 directory to directory called  
 CAM1-'today date' and the  same for /some_path/CAM2 directory

Dealing with 'crontab', I used the following time/date sequence:

 minutes  hours  day-of-month  month  day-of-week
 --

In your example, you started with hours, followed by minutes.

I hope, my sequence indicated above might work for you.


(Have a nice cron)

Wilko

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Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Allums

On 9/28/2012 1:39 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 20:27 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:

Try:

$clive -f best http://vimeo.com/24972836;


Does it download and convert long YouTube videos on the fly or does it
take hours?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KufCS2ad0eE

Regards,
Ralf




On the fly.  Actually, quite faster than real time, depending on your 
connection speed.


Not all YouTube (or other) videos will be available.  Some will be 
embedded only, or will otherwise result in 403 Forbidden.  YMMV



Mark


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how to vncviewer my home pc from office?

2012-09-28 Thread houkensjtu
I have a debian laptop in my home, which is connected to a router(which is 
connected to my modem). I did ifconfig on my laptop and it gaves me a bunch of 
information and I noticed there is a ip addr. which is 192.168.1.3...And I 
opened a vncserver on my laptop.

I tried to connect my laptop from my office by

vncviewer 192.168.1.3:1

but things not work...by saying

vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: No route to host
Unable to connect to VNC server

I know my question seems stupid but plz help me!


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