Re: Looking for advise to replacy Pan newsreader

[Patrick Bartek]

On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 04:05:47 - (UTC)
"Juan R. de Silva"  wrote:

> Pan newsreader,which I used happily for several years, lately get buggy 
> as hell and cannot be used any longer at all.
> 
> I tried Thunderbird from Debian repo and found that the pure thing is not 
> capable to keep a uniform font size through all posts. That is, the font 
> size changes as soon as I try to advance either to a next post or to another 
> group. 
> 
> Can your share with me what do you use for newsgroups reading. I do not care 
> about binaries. All I want to follow several Linux usenet newsgroups. Plain 
> text reading.

Claws-mail besides being a text-based only email client can also access
NNTP news accounts, too. Although, I've never done so.  Abandoned NNTP
and pan a year ago.

B

Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

[Celejar]

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:03:14 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev"  wrote:

> On 15.02.2019 11:44, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
> >
> > Here are some important factors to consider:

...

> > 2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have
> > super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated
> > from the National University of Singapore in 2007.

> I don't think there are any kind of storage service available for that
> kind of storage demand and costs a few tenners.
> 50 TB is no joke and even basic calculation gives values around $1300
> per month.

Much cheaper services are available, e.g., Wasabi, for $250:

https://wasabi.com/pricing/

Celejar

Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

[Celejar]

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:52:55 - (UTC)
Curt  wrote:

> On 2019-02-15, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming  wrote:
> >
> > Basically personal data. I don't intend to access the data in the
> > Cloud often. Just want to park it permanently in the Cloud. Maybe I
> > can access the Cloud from anywhere in the world?
> >
> 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Glacier

Depending on how often / how fast the storage will need to be accessed,
C14 can be cheaper:

https://www.online.net/en/c14#pricing

Celejar

Looking for advise to replacy Pan newsreader

[Juan R. de Silva]

Pan newsreader,which I used happily for several years, lately get buggy 
as hell and cannot be used any longer at all.

I tried Thunderbird from Debian repo and found that the pure thing is not 
capable to keep a uniform font size through all posts. That is, the font 
size changes as soon as I try to advance either to a next post or to another 
group. 

Can your share with me what do you use for newsgroups reading. I do not care 
about binaries. All I want to follow several Linux usenet newsgroups. Plain 
text reading.

Thanks

Re: get my ip address

[John Crawley]

On 16/02/2019 14.28, David Wright wrote:

On Sat 16 Feb 2019 at 11:10:32 (+0900), John Crawley wrote:

On 16/02/2019 08.54, David Wright wrote:

On Fri 15 Feb 2019 at 22:04:42 (+), Darac Marjal wrote:

If you're going to recommend parsing `ip`, the -j option may be more
amenable to scripting. (JSON output)

---

(Sorry if I was expected to explicitly write "shell scripting".)
… I don't think that JSON would be any help: rather, the opposite.


Though a call to jq makes parsing json very easy for shell scripts.


I'm not sure I understand why you'd ask ip to write JSON, and then
post-process it with jq to filter it to different JSON, and then
parse it in a shell, rather than just parsing something as simple as
the oneline format using the tools that every system has installed


jq can pull out the exact element of the json that you want, making 
further shell parsing unnecessary.

Totally unrelated example, (Adobe flash player downloads)
this query:
curl -s 
"https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/webservices/json/?platform_type=Linux_arch=x86-32_dist=Chrome; 
| jq -r '.[0].download_url'

returns:
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/pub/flashplayer/pdc/32.0.0.142/flash_player_ppapi_linux.i386.tar.gz

--
John

GnuBee: freedom-respecting Network Attached Storage (was: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data)

[Ben Finney]

Andy Smith  writes:

> If all you require is access to your data when you are out and about,
> and you do currently have always-on Internet at home, you could build
> a cheap server, attach your existing USB storage to it, and serve it
> with owncloud or something.

This sometimes goes by the (IMO stupidly misleading) name of “personal
cloud”, but “cloud” is a useless word for all of this. It's simply an
always-on server for file storage and maybe some other services.

When the primary purpose is network-attached file storage, as the
original poster is requesting, the term to search for is Network
Attached Storage (NAS).

In other words, it's what used to be quite normal for many people,
before the internet was centralised :-) and is a great step to
re-decentralising the net [0]. One downside is, as pointed out earlier,
you must (yourself, or convince someone else to) take on the job of
system administrator for your network.

There is a good free-software-respecting hardware solution for building
a bare-bones server for running at a home or small office, the GnuBee
https://www.crowdsupply.com/gnubee/>.

It runs a full-blown GNU+Linux operating system under your full control,
so you could set it up to also run services along the line of nextCloud
or the like.


[0] 
https://www.economist.com/special-report/2018/06/28/how-to-fix-what-has-gone-wrong-with-the-internet>
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/tim-berners-lee-reclaim-the-web>

-- 
 \  “Every valuable human being must be a radical and a rebel, for |
  `\  what he must aim at is to make things better than they are.” |
_o__)  —Niels Bohr |
Ben Finney

eric Python IDE minor warnings

[Kent West]

I'm running unstable; don't know much about python or eric (an IDE for
python), just enough to maybe do a "Hello, World" or copy/paste something a
little bigger.

I did (IIRC):

aptitude upgrade
aptitude full-upgrade
aptitude install eric
aptitude install python-tk

I think all is basically working, but when I start eric, I get two warnings:

In the upper-right corner the "Code Info Provider" field is set to disabled
with a pink box beneath that says "No source code documentation provider
has been registered. This function has been disabled."

and the center lower pane says:
"Warning: translation file 'git_en_US' could not be loaded.

Using default."

Not show-stoppers, but I'd like to clear out these warnings and don't know
how to do so. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

-- 
Kent West<")))><
Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com

Re: Can't scan new disk

[David Christensen]

On 2/16/19 12:30 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 2/15/19 9:12 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 2/15/19 3:24 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
I just bought a new backup disk, and I want to check it. It's mounted 
in a USB dock.


Running the following gives an error:

root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

What's causing this and how do I fix it?  It's not MATE; I tried 
rebooting to rescue mode, but that didn't help.



On 2/15/19 5:37 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
 > ... Seagate IronWolf Pro 12 TB


What is the make and model of the USB dock, and is it rated for 12 TB?


It is an Orico, I don't know the model, and I was not aware there was a 
"rating" for disk sizes.


Everything has limitations.  Figure out the model number, part number, 
whatever, and research its specifications -- there's no point trying to 
use a 12 TB drive in a dock that is rated for something elss.




Does e2fsck work when the drive is connected to an internal SATA port?


Hasn't been tried, as I was not aware there was a difference between USB 
SATA and internal SATA. 


The more layers of hardware, software, and/or firmware between the CPU 
and the SATA port on the drive, the more opportunities for Murphy's Law. 
 When a drive is mounted internally, the connection is something like 
motherboard CPU -> motherboard PCIe -> motherboard SATA chip -> drive. 
But for an external USB dock, the connect becomes motherboard CPU -> 
motherboard PCIe -> motherboard USB chip -> dock USB chip -> dock CPU -> 
dock SATA chip -> drive.  While the motherboard stuff can be FOSS based 
upon manufacturer supplied reference source code (e.g. Intel), USB drive 
docks are typically proprietary and closed-source.  This makes USB docks 
next to impossible to trouble-shoot or bug-fix for end-users or FOSS 
distributors.



Also, it would be highly inconvenient.  I'd 
like to try other possible solutions first.



The idea is to devise a process of elimination to see if the problem is 
the drive, the USB dock, Debian, etc..


1.  Try another drive using that dock and Debian.

2.  Try another connection using that drive and Debian.

3.  Try another OS using that drive and dock.


David

Re: puzzled: debian 9.8 already?

[Steve McIntyre]

Andrea wrote:
>Hi.
>
>apt-get just gave me this warning:
>N: Il repository "http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch 
>Release" ha modificato il valore "Version" da "9.7" a "9.8"
>(In Italian, that is "value for version changed from 9.7 to 9.8")
>
>Given that 9.7 was just released (I checked the website), is it just 
>part of a normal preparation for the next point release or what else?
>I have a mixed stable / testing setup.

This weekend's point release had been planned for a long time, and was
originally going to be called 9.7. But then due to the major security
fix needed for apt [1] and the new installation media etc. also
needed, we decided to publish a minimal 9.7 release out of sequence
with just that change. What was going to be 9.7 became 9.8 instead.

[1] https://www.debian.org/security/2019/dsa-4371

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com
  Armed with "Valor": "Centurion" represents quality of Discipline,
  Honor, Integrity and Loyalty. Now you don't have to be a Caesar to
  concord the digital world while feeling safe and proud.

Re: ejecución de un cron

[Toni Mas i Soler]

Buenas,
Mírate el fichero /etc/default/cron
La opción EXTRA_OPTS puede contener  opciones adicionales del estilo "-L X"
donde X puede ser, según el man del cron:
   -L loglevel
   Tell cron what to log about jobs (errors are logged
regardless of this value) as the sum of the following values:

   1  will log the start of all cron jobs

   2  will log the end of all cron jobs

   4  will log all failed jobs (exit status != 0)

   8  will log the process number of all cron jobs

   The default is to log the start of all jobs (1).
Logging will be disabled if levels is set to zero (0). A  value  of
   fifteen (15) will select all options.

En tu caso, entiendo que debes informar un 3.
Tienes que rearrancar el demonio cron una vez modificado.

Espero que sea lo que buscas.

Toni Mas

Missatge de miguel angel gonzalez  del dia
dv., 15 de febr. 2019 a les 16:23:
>
> Buenas tardes,
> Os pongo en antecedentes,una máquina por la noche hace unas tareas 
> programadas en cron. Veo en el log tanto en syslog como en /var/log/cron (lo 
> acabo de activar) que sólo registra el inicio de la tarea, pero no el fin. 
> ¿Se ocurre alguna manera de hacerlo?
> Estoy haciendo pruebas de este tipo:
> #35 13  *   *   *   sh /home/parsys/prueba_cron.sh >> 
> /home/parsys/prueba_cron2.out#35 13  *   *   *   sh 
> /home/parsys/prueba_cron.sh >> /home/parsys/prueba_cron2.out#35 13  * 
>   *   *   sh /home/user/prueba_cron.sh >> /home/parsys/ 
> prueba_cron2.out
> En el fichero de salida, sólo muetra la hora de inicio. He puesto una 
> variable llamada date en el script para que me envíe la hora al fichero de 
> salida (prueba_cron2.out), pero nada. Quiero saber cuando finaliza.
> ¿Alguna idea? Muchas gracias de antemano.
> Un saludo.
>
> --
> /m.a.

Re: Quel anti spam serveur ?

[Yann Serre]

Le 16/02/2019 à 18:29, David BERCOT a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je vais ré-installer mon serveur mail (postfix/dovecot/roundcube) et lui
ajouter un anti-spam.
Les quelques recherches effectuées conseillent plutôt spamassassin ou
rspamd.

Est-ce que vous auriez un conseil / retour d'expérience en la matière ?

Il s'agit d'un serveur purement personnel avec des contraintes qui sont
donc plutôt limitées...

Merci d'avance.

David.


Bonjour,
Je prolonge avec :
Quelle solution pour classer les mails sur le serveur (postfix/dovecot 
aussi) ?
Actuellement ce sont les règles de Thunderbird qui s'en chargent sur mon 
PC principal mais j'aimerais centraliser.
Si vous préférez dissocier cette demande de celle de David, pas de 
problème !

Merci,
Yves

web problem

[ghe]

Buster, Firefox 60.5.0esr, T1 connection

It seems...

...that the SSL/TLS handshake is taking too long -- at most sites.
Google, Debian, Cisco, Amazon and some others work fine. DuckDuckGo does
not. The Python docs at New Mexico Tech doesn't.

SMTP and SSH bidirectional and FTP from my server are OK.

Firefox, and other browsers, time out.

The web server in the next room is great on http, but there's a home
made cert for https, and Firefox times out trying to get to the https at
Mozilla so I can tell it it's OK. So I can't check my site's SSL handshake.

When I ping something (default 1 sec TTL) for a long time on the T1,
there are a few 'holes.' I've never seen that before. Traceroute also
has holes, but that's to be expected, and it finishes eventually.

'telnet  25|80|443' seems to be OK. So does a reasonable ping.

The T1 has been solid as a rock for years. It happens with all the boxes
around the apartment. When I use one of the WiFi nets (2) here, they
work fine.

It's just that SSL handshake. It's possible that there are holes in the
TCP (I assume) handshake?

Anybody experienced this? Or know what I can do about it?

-- 
Glenn English

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/15/19 9:12 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 2/15/19 3:24 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
I just bought a new backup disk, and I want to check it. It's mounted 
in a USB dock.


Running the following gives an error:

root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

What's causing this and how do I fix it?  It's not MATE; I tried 
rebooting to rescue mode, but that didn't help.



On 2/15/19 5:37 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
 > ... Seagate IronWolf Pro 12 TB


What is the make and model of the USB dock, and is it rated for 12 TB?


It is an Orico, I don't know the model, and I was not aware there was a 
"rating" for disk sizes.








Does e2fsck work when the drive is connected to an internal SATA port?


Hasn't been tried, as I was not aware there was a difference between USB 
SATA and internal SATA.  Also, it would be highly inconvenient.  I'd 
like to try other possible solutions first.


Thanks,

Mark





I use HDD trays and mobile docks for my backup drives:

https://www.startech.com/HDD/Mobile-Racks/Black-Serial-ATA-Drive-Drawer-with-Shock-Absorbers-Professional-Series~DRW115SATBK 



I will consider this.





David



Thanks a lot,
Mark

Re: puzzled: debian 9.8 already?

[Ryan Campbell Cunningham]

If you would like to, you may read the Debian 9.8 release announcement 
at .


El 16/2/19 a las 12:12 p. m., Andrea Borgia escribiￜ:

Hi.

apt-get just gave me this warning:
N: Il repository "http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch 
Release" ha modificato il valore "Version" da "9.7" a "9.8"

(In Italian, that is "value for version changed from 9.7 to 9.8")

Given that 9.7 was just released (I checked the website), is it just 
part of a normal preparation for the next point release or what else?

I have a mixed stable / testing setup.

Thanks,
Andrea.

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/16/19 2:41 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2019-02-15, Mark Allums  wrote:

I just bought a new backup disk, and I want to check it. It's mounted in
a USB dock.

Running the following gives an error:

root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

What's causing this and how do I fix it?  It's not MATE; I tried
rebooting to rescue mode, but that didn't help.

Mark


People sometimes recommend 'fuser' in cases like these in order to
identify processes that might be accessing the drive.

I mean, the message says '/dev/sdb1 is in use.' Perhaps it is indeed.

  fuser -v -m /dev/sdb1

Worth a try, maybe, as no one else seems to have suggested it.


root@martha:~# fuser -v -m /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~#

No results.  Thanks.

Mark

puzzled: debian 9.8 already?

[Andrea Borgia]

Hi.

apt-get just gave me this warning:
N: Il repository "http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch 
Release" ha modificato il valore "Version" da "9.7" a "9.8"

(In Italian, that is "value for version changed from 9.7 to 9.8")

Given that 9.7 was just released (I checked the website), is it just 
part of a normal preparation for the next point release or what else?

I have a mixed stable / testing setup.

Thanks,
Andrea.

Re: Permissions error with Postfix + Cyrus

[Daniel Bareiro]

On 15/2/19 13:59, Reco wrote:

>   Hi.

Hi, Reco. Thanks for your reply.

> Its' expected. /var/run is a symlink to /run, in-memory filesystem
> (tmpfs). Which becomes empty after each reboot.
> Every time you boot, systemd calls systemd-tmpfiles with the
> following config:
> 
> $ cat /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/cyrus-imapd.conf
> #Type Path  Mode UID   GID  Age Argument
> d /run/cyrus0755 cyrus mail -   -
> d /run/cyrus/socket 0750 cyrus mail -   -
> 
> Since dpkg-statoverride is honored only at package installation or
> upgrade, systemd wins ☺.
> 
> And if you're not using systemd - /etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd takes care of
> calling systemd-tmpfiles.

Thanks for the explanation. Maybe I'm confused but I think that in the
upgrade I did from Wheezy to Jessie with systemd I had used
dpkg-statoverride and the changes were persistent in the reboots. That's
why I had thought that upgrading from Jessie to Stretch I would have the
same result.

>> Any idea what could be a definitive solution? Maybe I'm missing
>> something here?

> Try this if you're using systemd:
> 
> cat > /etc/tmpfiles.d/cyrus-imapd.conf << EOF
> #Type Path  Mode UID   GID  Age Argument
> d /run/cyrus0755 cyrus lmtp -   -
> d /run/cyrus/socket 0750 cyrus lmtp -   -
> EOF

Thank you! It worked!

> And you have to dpkg-divert /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/cyrus-imapd.conf if
> you're *not* using systemd, see above.

I'll keep it in mind.

Thank you very much for your time.

Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Indicação Sites de Nuvem

[Edson Copque]

Ou então crie várias contas, acho que não é ilegal nem imoral!

Essa mensagem é destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatário e pode conter
informações confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional ou cuja 
divulgação seja proibida por lei. O uso não autorizado de tais informações é 
proibido e está sujeito às penalidades cabíveis.

This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain 
information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege or 
whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is 
prohibited and subject to applicable penalties.

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 13:39, riesdra  wrote:

> Olá, uso o serviço do megasync há um bom tempo ele vem me dando mensagem que 
> meu armazenamento esta cheio, ele não sincroniza mais as fotos do meu 
> celular, apenas esta sincronizando os arquivos que tenho em meu note, mas 
> desde semana passada venho tendo problemas com ele pois esta me dando erro 
> nas atualizações.
> Gostaria de saber se tem algum outro serviço que rode bem com debian e que eu 
> possa usar para sincronizar fotos do meu celular também, que tenha boa 
> quantidade de espaço disponível e que seja free :)
>
> obs:-
> meu megasync tem apenas 21,58 gb usados, sendo que o espaço que eles liberam 
> é 50 gb.
>
> desde já agradeço a atenção.
>
> --
> Ricardo Libanio

Re: Indicação Sites de Nuvem

[Edson Copque]

Parece que você está pedindo um pouco demais, já que você quer um grátis. Mas 
se quiser um pago, li em alguns fóruns que o SpiderOak é uma boa pedida! ;-)

Essa mensagem é destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatário e pode conter
informações confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional ou cuja 
divulgação seja proibida por lei. O uso não autorizado de tais informações é 
proibido e está sujeito às penalidades cabíveis.

This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain 
information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege or 
whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is 
prohibited and subject to applicable penalties.

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 13:39, riesdra  wrote:

> Olá, uso o serviço do megasync há um bom tempo ele vem me dando mensagem que 
> meu armazenamento esta cheio, ele não sincroniza mais as fotos do meu 
> celular, apenas esta sincronizando os arquivos que tenho em meu note, mas 
> desde semana passada venho tendo problemas com ele pois esta me dando erro 
> nas atualizações.
> Gostaria de saber se tem algum outro serviço que rode bem com debian e que eu 
> possa usar para sincronizar fotos do meu celular também, que tenha boa 
> quantidade de espaço disponível e que seja free :)
>
> obs:-
> meu megasync tem apenas 21,58 gb usados, sendo que o espaço que eles liberam 
> é 50 gb.
>
> desde já agradeço a atenção.
>
> --
> Ricardo Libanio

Quel anti spam serveur ?

[David BERCOT]

Bonjour,

Je vais ré-installer mon serveur mail (postfix/dovecot/roundcube) et lui
ajouter un anti-spam.
Les quelques recherches effectuées conseillent plutôt spamassassin ou
rspamd.

Est-ce que vous auriez un conseil / retour d'expérience en la matière ?

Il s'agit d'un serveur purement personnel avec des contraintes qui sont
donc plutôt limitées...

Merci d'avance.

David.

Indicação Sites de Nuvem

[riesdra]

Olá, uso o serviço do megasync há um bom tempo ele vem me dando mensagem que 
meu armazenamento esta cheio, ele não sincroniza mais as fotos do meu celular, 
apenas esta sincronizando os arquivos que tenho em meu note, mas desde semana 
passada venho tendo problemas com ele pois esta me dando erro nas atualizações.
Gostaria de saber se tem algum outro serviço que rode bem com debian e que eu 
possa usar para sincronizar fotos do meu celular também, que tenha boa 
quantidade de espaço disponível e que seja free :)
 
obs:-
meu megasync tem apenas 21,58 gb usados, sendo que o espaço que eles liberam é 
50 gb.

desde já agradeço a atenção.




--

Ricardo Libanio

Reporting success info and a bug against a help request from Bits From Debian

[Erkki Lintunen]

Hello,

answering to the following:

Help test initial support for Secure Boot, Bits from Debian, Sat 02 Feb 2019



I had success on my Asus Vivobook E200HA. I tested the Secure Boot 
enabled with both the installed system, Debian Buster/Unstable, and with 
Buster Installer weekly build dated 11.2.2019.




Some minor (I think) quirks encountered

* the detailed instructions told to use up-to-date Unstable, but hit the 
bug below and used instead shim-signed from Buster




* mokutil asked for password, but after complained with two messages 
about failed authorization
* despite proceeded in stage 2 as instructed, BIOS/SB firmware did not 
ask for the given passwords
* again despite of the above I went ahead, enabled Secure Boot and were 
able to boot the system SB enabled

* mokutil confirmed Secure Boot enabled in the installed system
* did boot the Vivobook with the weekly installer from USB key to rescue 
mode, had couple trials to get the SB state, what failed with the following:


~ # /target/usr/bin/mokutil --sb-state
Failed to read SecureBoot



A bug report against the help request

Please include either link to a web page or a paragraph detailing where 
and how (you) devs want to receive these reports to. I think this 
important as wider community (may include non-devs, if not told to 
concern only devs) is asked for testing. I, for one, am not that 
familiar with all the fine methods Debian project has in place to report 
the requested information. I'm aware of reportbug utility (once or twice 
have used it). Did check bugs for shim-signed. Still in this case I was 
puzzled, how and where to report (shim-signed, shim, installer or 
what?). As a last resort I chose this list as told to here:




Hope this info gets from here to where it may be needed, or, possibly, 
this message gets a long tail of reports from others keen on testing and 
getting SB as rock solid as it can get.



Best regards,
Erkki

(Please include my email address, if my attention is further needed, as 
currently haven't subscribed the list.)

Re: Peter -- Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Peter Ehlert]

On 2/16/19 5:41 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, February 15, 2019 10:39:58 PM Peter Ehlert wrote:

I don't really know,

What don't you really know?  It would be a lot easier to know what you're
talking about if you put your answer under the relevant question (i.e., not
top posting)
Pardon me. Sorry I confused you. My email client on my cell phone does 
not have that ability.

it is a net install, draws the current packages
from the repos... so it must have access. no wire was plunged in and my
wifi adapter needed iwiwifi-7260-17.ucode and asked for it.
The installer seems to Only install needed/desired packages.
for example, I did Not want the "default Debian desktop" (gnome) and
wanted only Mate... so I got exactly that, and less cruft.

I do like Buster, and it will be the new "stable" in a few months.
Buster is running on one of my machines, and has had no problems for
several months.
There is a lot of vetting to even get to "testing" aka Buster, I suspect
there will be little change before it goes mainstream.

On 2/15/19 8:49 AM, deb wrote:

On 2/15/2019 11:01 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:

Buster install on 820 Friday, February 15 2019
on USB #1: firmware-buster-DI-alpha5-amd64-netinst.iso
I also have on USB #2: firmware-9.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso

booted with #1, ... It did ask for firmware, I put #2 in and pressed
"continue" and install continued and I was able to select my wifi

Hopefully the same will work for you

Thanks Peter

This will be my fallback.

It will ask me if it then uses those ISOs to install OTHER firmware
things, correct?


I don't want an Ubuntu-scenario, where it just dumps in all kinds of
non-free things to make a nice "user experience".


ps

How's Buster overall?

Should I just jump to that?


Thanks!

Re: Widevine werkt niet meer in Firefox-esr

[Dirk Ruijne]

Paul van der Vlis schreef op do 14-02-2019 om 12:59 [+0100]:
> Op 14-02-19 om 12:23 schreef Paul van der Vlis:
> > Op 13-02-19 om 21:44 schreef Dirk Ruijne:
> > > Dag Paul,
> > > 
> > > Paul van der Vlis schreef op di 12-02-2019 om 01:14 [+0100]:
> > > > Op 06-02-19 om 09:46 schreef Paul van der Vlis:
> > > > > Hoi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Onlangs melde ik dat npostart.nl niet meer functioneerde.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In de tussentijd is er een nieuwe versie van Firefox-esr
> > > > > gekomen in
> > > > > Debian, en er is wat veranderd. Nu wordt er een poging gedaan
> > > > > Widevine
> > > > > te installeren (gele balk boven), maar dit duurt eindeloos en
> > > > > lukt
> > > > > niet.
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > Ik kreeg deze gele balk ook. Maar blijkbaar is het bij mij wel
> > > gelukt.
> > > De gele balk is verdwenen en NPOstart doet het weer.
> > 
> > Als je verder niets speciaals hebt gedaan, dan denk ik eigenlijk
> > dat je
> > geen firefox-esr van Debian 9 of 10 gebruikt. Kijk eens in "help |
> > over
> > Firefox". De versie in Debian is 60.5.0esr, en niet 65.x.
> 
> Het probleem is nu wel opgelost in firsfox-esr 60.5.1esr-1, maar dat
> wordt op dit moment nog gebouwd:
> https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=firefox-esr
> 
Nog eens gekeken:
Ik heb 60.5.1esr (64 bits)
Widevine is het laatst bijgewerkt op: 15 februari.
Maar ik weet zeker, dat hier hiervoor ook al werkte.

Debian versie:
cat /etc/debian_version
9.7

firefox --version
Mozilla Firefox 60.5.1

Groeten,

Dirk

> Groet,
> Paul
> 
> 
> 

Re: Peter -- Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[rhkramer]

On Friday, February 15, 2019 10:39:58 PM Peter Ehlert wrote:
> I don't really know, 

What don't you really know?  It would be a lot easier to know what you're 
talking about if you put your answer under the relevant question (i.e., not 
top posting)

> it is a net install, draws the current packages
> from the repos... so it must have access. no wire was plunged in and my
> wifi adapter needed iwiwifi-7260-17.ucode and asked for it.
> The installer seems to Only install needed/desired packages.
> for example, I did Not want the "default Debian desktop" (gnome) and
> wanted only Mate... so I got exactly that, and less cruft.
> 
> I do like Buster, and it will be the new "stable" in a few months.
> Buster is running on one of my machines, and has had no problems for
> several months.
> There is a lot of vetting to even get to "testing" aka Buster, I suspect
> there will be little change before it goes mainstream.
> 
> On 2/15/19 8:49 AM, deb wrote:
> > On 2/15/2019 11:01 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> >> Buster install on 820 Friday, February 15 2019
> >> on USB #1: firmware-buster-DI-alpha5-amd64-netinst.iso
> >> I also have on USB #2: firmware-9.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
> >> 
> >> booted with #1, ... It did ask for firmware, I put #2 in and pressed
> >> "continue" and install continued and I was able to select my wifi
> >> 
> >> Hopefully the same will work for you
> > 
> > Thanks Peter
> > 
> > This will be my fallback.
> > 
> > It will ask me if it then uses those ISOs to install OTHER firmware
> > things, correct?
> > 
> > 
> > I don't want an Ubuntu-scenario, where it just dumps in all kinds of
> > non-free things to make a nice "user experience".
> > 
> > 
> > ps
> > 
> > How's Buster overall?
> > 
> > Should I just jump to that?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!

Re: Using a VPN to bypass surveillance and censorship (was: how to find out video memory size?)

[Larry Martell]

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 2:52 AM Long Wind  wrote:

> i had used tor a very long time ago
> i'm afraid it no longer work
>
>
> On Saturday, February 16, 2019 3:46 PM, john doe 
> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/16/2019 7:27 AM, Long Wind wrote:
>
> > Thank Ben!but vpn can also be blocked by Chinese government
> > i've been using some vpn servers for a long timebut they are blocked in
> Spring Festival, which begins in Februaryi believe government increase
> blocking in this period
>
> >
>
> "Tor" or similar.
>

I will be in China next week. I heard bing works there.

>
>
>

Re: Informatique scolaire debian

[Daniel Huhardeaux]

Le 15/02/2019 à 20:43, Francois Meyer a écrit :

Bonjour à tous


Bonjour



Connaissez-vous des boites sérieuses qui pourraient vendre une vingtaine 
d'ulta-portables installés sous debian / ubuntu et assurer un peu de 
maintenance ?


Je sais qu'il y en a mais pas si elles bossent bien.

Je travaille dans un lycée, mais je n'ai pas la main sur le réseau (Dieu 
m'en garde !). Je voudrais des machines sur lesquelles je peux bricoler 
au besoin (installer des applis que je connais, restreindre les 
possibilités de connexion, etc) mais si possible ne pas avoir à me 
farcir trop de maintenance (faire les maj, gérer les pannes).


Actuellement la mode est de distribuer des tablettes apple qui sont 
faites pour le divertissement et remplissent très bien leur fonction au 
détriment de l'éducatif (pardon pour cette petite remarque H-S) et je 
voudrais éviter cela sans renoncer aux bénéfices de l'informatique dans 
l'éducation.


mon entreprise fait cela. Nous avons équipé une école de village avec 
des portables Dell (Ubuntu installé d'origine + suite GCompris), des 
Raspbery Pi (Ubuntu mate + suite GCompris), d'anciens portables HP 
Windows XP passés sous Primtux, l'ensemble relié à un serveur Ubuntu.


Ce setup peut parfaitement être adapté à Debian sachant que Primtux est 
déjà basé sur Debian.


--
Daniel

Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

[Andy Smith]

Hello,

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 01:08:01PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:10 PM Dan Ritter  wrote:
> > 50TB is a lot of data. Do you actually have it right now, or are
> > you projecting into the future? How are you storing it?
> 
> Using external portable USB hard drives.

What then are your goals for cloud storage? The main issue you are
facing is that 50TB is a pretty huge amount of personal user data by
today's standards, so any commercial offering is going to be expensive.

If all you require is access to your data when you are out and about,
and you do currently have always-on Internet at home, you could build a
cheap server, attach your existing USB storage to it, and serve it with
owncloud or something.

Downsides:

- USB storage kind of sucks

- Now you are a sysadmin, congrats

- Maybe your domestic Internet service provider isn't up to the task of
  serving a lot of data

Upsides:

- Access to your data from where you have Internet for a relatively
  modest one off purchase and some sysadmin work.

- Your personal data can stay physically where it is, so no months-long
  upload session.

Depending on what your actual use case is there are many other reasons
why this may not be suitable.

If I had 50TB of valuable personal data I'd also be worrying about how
it's backed up.

Cheers,
Andy

-- 
https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: get my ip address

[Darac Marjal]

On 16/02/2019 05:28, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 16 Feb 2019 at 11:10:32 (+0900), John Crawley wrote:
>> On 16/02/2019 08.54, David Wright wrote:
>>> On Fri 15 Feb 2019 at 22:04:42 (+), Darac Marjal wrote:
 If you're going to recommend parsing `ip`, the -j option may be more
 amenable to scripting. (JSON output)

 On 15/02/2019 15:52, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 15 Feb 2019 at 12:02:20 (+0100), Markus Schönhaber wrote:
>> Tony, 15.2.2019, 11:11:29 +0100:
>>
>>> Debian 9. I need to read my IPv6 address into a python script.
>>>↑
>>> Some of us here are still running stable (stretch) and older. So
>>> perhaps only for buster onwards and, I assume, stretch-backports.
>>> But …
>>>
> [That's probably best if your destination is a Python program. ←snipped]
> Otherwise, for scripting, it's easy to overlook   ip -o a
> which makes parsing much easier.
>>> (Sorry if I was expected to explicitly write "shell scripting".)
>>> … I don't think that JSON would be any help: rather, the opposite.
>> Though a call to jq makes parsing json very easy for shell scripts.
> I'm not sure I understand why you'd ask ip to write JSON, and then
> post-process it with jq to filter it to different JSON, and then
> parse it in a shell, rather than just parsing something as simple as
> the oneline format using the tools that every system has installed
> (like grep, sed).

Because JSON gives a standard way to markup data. Grep and sed are
great, no quibbles there, but they work with text streams. Structured
data is more reliable. With JSON, you don't need to know that the  ip
address is the fourth (or is it fifth?) space-separated token in the
twelfth line of the stream. You can actually ask jq "If the interface
name matches /eth\d/, what are the IP addresses for this interface?"
because it's all key:value based.

I don't want to say "don't use grep et al.", because they definitely
have their place. I'm just saying that the world moving toward
structured data brings a lot of robustness.


>
> That is, unless you're already involving jq for something else,
> like the OP is with their Python program. And as we've seen, Python
> has a module or function for just about everything, and may avoid
> having to call ip in the first place.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>

Re: get my ip address

[tony]

On 15/02/2019 16:52, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 15 Feb 2019 at 12:02:20 (+0100), Markus Schönhaber wrote:
>> Tony, 15.2.2019, 11:11:29 +0100:
>>
>>> Debian 9. I need to read my IPv6 address into a python script.
>>>
>>> I am aware that I can call ip a and parse the result. The parsing,
>>> whilst quite achievable, is slightly tricky, but I can manage the RE, so
>>>  that's not my question.
>>>
>>> Is there any other way to obtain this data, maybe from /sys?
>>
>> Take a look at this:
>> https://pypi.org/project/netifaces/
>>
>> This is packaged on stretch as python[3]-netifaces
> 
> That's probably best if your destination is a Python program.
> 
> Otherwise, for scripting, it's easy to overlook   ip -o a
> which makes parsing much easier. But note that you may then
> need to be more specific, eg compare
> 
> $ ip a
> 
> with
> 
> $ ip -o l
> $ ip -o a


Thanks to all who replied, I hadn't expected pointers to the various
python libraries, for which I am very grateful. All I asked for was a
simple way of directly accessing the hardware, but that does not seem to
be available.

Failing that, I had indeed overlooked the -o flag oo ip a, which indeed
makes parsing easier. However, it does appear that netifaces offers  the
most usable solution, so a cigar to David Wright for this suggestion.

Cheers, Tony

Re: Informatique scolaire debian

[Sylvain Caselli]

Bonjour,
dans le même  que toi, j'ai prévu des raspberrys et faire un petit 
réseau local en wifi. Le réseau du lycée étant réservé pour les 
recherches internet et l'échange de fichiers avec les élèves.

Sylvain.



Le 16/02/2019 à 06:13, Nicolas FRANCOIS a écrit :

Le Fri, 15 Feb 2019 20:43:55 +0100,
Francois Meyer  a écrit :


Bonjour à tous

Connaissez-vous des boites sérieuses qui pourraient vendre une
vingtaine d'ulta-portables installés sous debian / ubuntu et assurer
un peu de maintenance ?

Je sais qu'il y en a mais pas si elles bossent bien.

Je travaille dans un lycée, mais je n'ai pas la main sur le réseau
(Dieu m'en garde !). Je voudrais des machines sur lesquelles je peux
bricoler au besoin (installer des applis que je connais, restreindre
les possibilités de connexion, etc) mais si possible ne pas avoir à
me farcir trop de maintenance (faire les maj, gérer les pannes).

Tu as pensé à des Raspberry Pi ? C'est pour SNT/NSI ?

\bye

Re: Permanent Use of IPv4

[Reco]

Hi.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:14:10PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 15/02/2019 à 17:48, Reco a écrit :
> > 
> > Why it is safe - because systemd configures NICs first, starts services
> > next, and then applies kernel knobs (aka sysctl).
> 
> Are you sure ? AFAICS, sysctl is started before networking, and NICs may be
> configured asynchronously if they have allow-auto.

Now that you're asking it - no, I'm not sure.
I guess I've used to specifying assorted net.ipv4.* settings for VLAN
interfaces that do not exist yet at system's boot, as it "works for
me"™.

Reco

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Curt]

On 2019-02-15, Mark Allums  wrote:
> I just bought a new backup disk, and I want to check it. It's mounted in 
> a USB dock.
>
> Running the following gives an error:
>
> root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
> root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
> /dev/sdb1 is in use.
> e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
>
> What's causing this and how do I fix it?  It's not MATE; I tried 
> rebooting to rescue mode, but that didn't help.
>
> Mark

People sometimes recommend 'fuser' in cases like these in order to
identify processes that might be accessing the drive.

I mean, the message says '/dev/sdb1 is in use.' Perhaps it is indeed.

 fuser -v -m /dev/sdb1

Worth a try, maybe, as no one else seems to have suggested it.