Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 17 ian 21, 17:44:28, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> Hi,
> The Asus that I have is G75V series. It has 2 hdd bays onboard. The
> 500mv is the drive that is current installed and Debian 10.7 is
> installed. I have purchased another 2T Segate drive that will go into
> the empty bay.
> 
> I don't want to do anything fancy, just install and update fstat. The
> question is what do I do in fstat to set it up. Currently the fstab file
> reads as follows.

1. Install GParted

2. Install the new drive

3. Open GParted and partition the new drive as you choose

   Be very careful to select the correct drive, it should be the large 
   empty one ;)

   Make sure you set a label for every (new) partition, e.g. depending 
   on what you intend to store on that partition. Labels should be 
   unique among all your partitions, choose carefully.

4. Add the new partition(s) to fstab with something like

LABEL=big-downloads   /media/big-dl   ext4   defaults   01

5. mkdir /media/big-stuff

6. Test with 'mount /media/big-dl'

7. Reboot and check the new partition(s) are where you expect them to be

8. Enjoy!

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: problem with wifi

[David Christensen]

On 2021-01-17 12:15, Long Wind wrote:

wifi is ok with cell phone, it isn't with buster
allow-hotplug  wlx0022c0001a59
iface wlx0022c0001a59 inet dhcp
wireless-essid JHotel

buster can connect to wifi with above
but after some time, connection is lost
i have to run ifdown/ifup again

any idea? Thanks!



What is the make and model of the device that serves as your Wi-Fi 
access point (AP)?



Does the AP have the ability to do a radio channel congestion survey?


Is the AP configured to automatically select a low-congestion channel?


Is the AP stationary?


What is the make and model of the computer "buster"?


What is the make and model of the Wi-Fi interface in "buster"?


Is "buster" stationary?


Please run the following commands as root and post:

# cat /etc/debian_version

# uname -a


On "buster", I would look for clues in /var/log .  Post any interesting 
snippets.



David

Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Keith Bainbridge]

On 18/1/21 10:09 am, Stefan Monnier wrote:

No, this drive will be recognized, after you plug it in, as
/dev/sdb, and will have whatever partitions you create on it.


Hmm... actually, there's a risk that the new drive gets assigned the
name `sda` and the "old" one gets renamed to `sdb`.


 Stefan




YES

This has happened to me. I suspect because the system recognises the
conventional drive before the m.2, but not positive.

I had to set the m.2 as the boot in cmos.  And remove the conventional
drive when I want to install a new OS.

--
Keith Bainbridge

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Re: sharing a network connection from debian to non-debian

[David Christensen]

On 2021-01-16 10:28, Dan Hitt wrote:


Regarding Andrei's suggestion of using nm-connection-editor, ...



GUI tools can be nice when you have an idea of what they are doing 
"under the hood".  With networking, multiple hoods are involved and many 
are inaccessible (notably your ISP and the Internet).



I recommend that you start by buying and reading "Networking for Systems 
Administrators" by Lucas:


https://mwl.io/nonfiction/networking#n4sa



David --- thanks for all the information.  The UNIfi system looks
good and is not very expensive.I would have to investigate it
carefully though, because my ancient hardware is very sensitive to
something about the electrical environment of the network (otherwise
i'd just hook it into my internet-modem-router).



Unless your hardware is broken, the most likely cause of network 
problems is misconfiguration.  Given dozens settings or more per device, 
the number of combinations across even a small network grows 
astronomically.  The most direct path to a working configuration on an 
X86 PC is to do a fresh install of Debian.  I would remove the drives in 
a problem PC, install a blank drive, do fresh install of Debian 9, and 
see if that works.



David

Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k)

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 17 ian 21, 20:12:38, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 16 Jan 2021 at 20:57:19 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 01:19:21PM -0500, Steven Mainor wrote:
> > > My main concern for the laptop in question is security. So from a
> > > security standpoint, what is the difference between using a wifi
> > > card with built in closed source firmware, and closed source
> > > firmware that is loaded by the kernel like ath10k. Either way the
> > > firmware is only running on the card, Not the CPU, correct?
> > 
> > The difference between burnt-in and loadable firmware is that the
> > second can change under you at the manufacturer's whim [1]. This
> > may have advantages and disadvantages, but you don't get to control
> > those :)
> 
> In terms of control, the burnt-in firmware cannot cannot be controlled
> either. I do not know where this gets us.

Besides, the manufacturer might even fix some bugs in the firmware.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k)

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Du, 17 ian 21, 12:43:26, Darac Marjal wrote:
> 
> In theory, I imagine it would be possible to make some sort of hook for
> apt here. That is, in the same way that apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges
> fire off before apt runs and as "Are you still sure you want to install
> these packages?", it might be possible to do the same with vrms.
> 
> Oh, yes, here's a wishlist bug from 2014 requesting this functionality:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742854

A slightly different approach (Bcc'd to the bug):


Explanation: disable automatic installation of packages from non-free
Package: *
Pin: release c=non-free
Pin-Priority: -1


Explanation: allow installation and updates (USB ethernet adapter)
Package: firmware-realtek
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: 100


Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k)

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Sb, 16 ian 21, 17:04:54, The Wanderer wrote:
> 
> Nothing immediate for the former, but for the latter, you may want to
> look at the 'vrms' package.
> 
> It stands for 'virtual Richard M. Stallman', in honor of RMS' role as
> the orienting compass of the Free Software movement (although its
> criteria are based on the DFSG instead of RMS' own views), and what it
> does is to scan the installed packages and report any which are from
> contrib or non-free.

aptitude search '?installed?section(contrib~|non-free)'
 
Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: [HS] Onduleur

[Sébastien Dinot]

Bonjour,

Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
> Je cherche un onduleur pour protéger à la fois mon NAS et mon PC fixe.

Étant donné que l'onduleur Eaton que je viens de commander est encore
dans son carton, il est trop tôt pour que je puisse faire un retour
d'expérience direct, mais j'ai choisi cet onduleur de type « in-line »
(aussi dit « line interactive ») entre autres parce qu'il était supporté
par NUT :

https://networkupstools.org/

NUT dispose d'un mode client/serveur qui permet à la machine connectée
à l'onduleur par USB d'informer les autres de l'état de l'alimentation
et donc, de faire en sorte que toutes s'arrêtent proprement lorsque
l'onduleur a pris le relais et que ses batteries faiblissent.

Sébastien

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http://www.palabritudes.net/
Ne goûtez pas au logiciel libre, vous ne pourriez plus vous en passer !

What is the command to access the temp sensors in a rpi4?

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all;

ISTR there is a "vcg*" sort of thing to read that stuff, but have lost it 
in the fog of time.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re : [HS] Onduleur

[k6dedijon]

Bonjour Gaëtan,
Il y a plusieurs modèles et types d'onduleurs.
Il est préférable d'avoir un onduleur "on-line" qui est toujours en 
inter-action alors qu'un onduleur "off-line" ou "hybride" ne s'active qu'en cas 
de problème. Avec le temps, poussières, vieillissement des composants, ces deux 
derniers type peuvent poser des problèmes.
Certains modèles proposent 4 prises de courant et une prise de contrôle (par 
exemple USB) pour arrêter un serveur après un certain temps de coupure du 
réseau électrique.
Dans tous les cas, il est nécessaire de mettre une protection contre les 
surtensions pour l'ensemble des appareils informatiques. Ces appareils sont 
souvent vendu incorporés à une multiprise.

Tout dépend de votre usage et de vos besoins.
Si vous voulez protéger votre PC, votre imprimante, votre scanner, un serveur, 
... Vous devrez faire un choix de ce qui doit être protégé, c'est à dire quels 
appareils doivent continuer à fonctionner et pendant combien de temps en cas de 
problèmes.
En fonction de ce choix, vous pourrez calculer la puissance à protéger et 
dimensionner votre onduleur.

Bon courage
Cassis




- Mail d'origine -
De: Gaëtan Perrier 
À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Envoyé: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 01:58:26 +0100 (CET)
Objet: [HS] Onduleur

Bonjour,

Désolé pour le HS mais je pense que sur la liste se trouvent des personnes
compétentes sur le sujet ;)

Voilà mon problème:

Je cherche un onduleur pour protéger à la fois mon NAS et mon PC fixe. Or à ce
que je vois sur les modèles que j'ai vu c'est que la connexion pour communiquer
avec le dispositif à protéger se fait par USB et que donc seul un dispositif
peut être relié.
Est-ce que ça veut dire qu'il me faut 2 onduleurs ou bien est-ce qu'il existe
des onduleurs avec 2 ports USB ou qui se connectent via le réseau par exemple
ce qui permettrait de piloter plusieurs périphériques à protéger avec un seul
onduleur ?

Gaëtan

zoom

[diego leon giraldo garcia]

ok muchas gracias al amigo Camaleón. ya tengo zoom instalado y funcionando.

Re : [HS] Compte google exigé sur Android

[k6dedijon]

Bonjour,
Il faut savoir qu'il y a plusieurs Android car Android est libre.
L'Android Google est totalement organisé pour nous obliger à nous déclarer, 
pour nous faire tourner sur les sites dépendants de Google ou partenaires de 
Google.
Installer F-Droid devient un parcours du combattant si l'on y arrive.
Les dernière versions Android-Google ne permettent plus son installation. 
Chaque fois, il faut passer par l'APK, c'est à dire une installation de F-Droid 
et surtout utiliser le bouton "ouvrir" présent en fin d'installation pour ne 
pas avoir à relancer l'installation. En effet dès que l'on quitte F-Droid il 
n'est plus installé.

Le mieux est de trouver un Android vraiment libre et de l'installer.
Voir la /e/ fondation :
https://e.foundation/fr/
https://e.foundation/fr/products/
Vous pourrez télécharger la version compatible avec votre smartphone sur cette 
page :
https://doc.e.foundation/devices/

J'utilise ce système depuis plus d'un an sur un galaxy 7 et je n'ai aucun 
problème.

Bon courage
Cassis





- Mail d'origine -
De: ajh-valmer 
À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Envoyé: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 15:17:32 +0100 (CET)
Objet: [HS] Compte google exigé sur Android

Bonjour,

Je rebondis sur un problème de mot de passe chez google.

J'ai un smartphone récent avec (l'éternel) Android.

Je ne peux rien télécharger, ni installer une application,
sans avoir un compte google.
Je n'en ai pas, tant celui que j'avais me poser problème.
Après déplacement en itinérance, à mon retour chez moi, 
le mot de passe était refusé.

Pourtant sur mon ordinateur (sous Debian),
aucun mot de passe ne m'ait demandé pour télécharger 
une application, même depuis la fenêtre google sous Firefox.

Merci,

Bon dimanche,

AJH Valmer

[HS] Onduleur

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Bonjour,

Désolé pour le HS mais je pense que sur la liste se trouvent des personnes
compétentes sur le sujet ;)

Voilà mon problème:

Je cherche un onduleur pour protéger à la fois mon NAS et mon PC fixe. Or à ce
que je vois sur les modèles que j'ai vu c'est que la connexion pour communiquer
avec le dispositif à protéger se fait par USB et que donc seul un dispositif
peut être relié.
Est-ce que ça veut dire qu'il me faut 2 onduleurs ou bien est-ce qu'il existe
des onduleurs avec 2 ports USB ou qui se connectent via le réseau par exemple
ce qui permettrait de piloter plusieurs périphériques à protéger avec un seul
onduleur ?

Gaëtan


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Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Dan Ritter]

Stefan Monnier wrote: 
> > No, this drive will be recognized, after you plug it in, as
> > /dev/sdb, and will have whatever partitions you create on it.
> 
> Hmm... actually, there's a risk that the new drive gets assigned the
> name `sda` and the "old" one gets renamed to `sdb`.
> 

Yes, or stranger things -- which is why 'cat /proc/partitions'
is first on my list of instructions.

-dsr-

Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Stefan Monnier]

> No, this drive will be recognized, after you plug it in, as
> /dev/sdb, and will have whatever partitions you create on it.

Hmm... actually, there's a risk that the new drive gets assigned the
name `sda` and the "old" one gets renamed to `sdb`.


Stefan

Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Dan Ritter]

Jerry Mellon wrote: 
> Hi,
> The Asus that I have is G75V series. It has 2 hdd bays onboard. The
> 500mv is the drive that is current installed and Debian 10.7 is
> installed. I have purchased another 2T Segate drive that will go into
> the empty bay.
> 
> I don't want to do anything fancy, just install and update fstat. The
> question is what do I do in fstat to set it up. Currently the fstab file
> reads as follows.
> 
> Device Boot Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
> /dev/sda1  * 2048 951703551 951701504 453.8G 83 Linux
> /dev/sda2   951705598 976771071  2506547412G  5 Extended
> /dev/sda5   951705600 976771071  2506547212G 82 Linux swap /
> Solaris
> 
> 
> Do I set the new drive as /dev/sda6 , 7 , 8  and would it be a
> single partition?
> 

No, this drive will be recognized, after you plug it in, as
/dev/sdb, and will have whatever partitions you create on it.

To see what it gets called by the operating system:

cat /proc/partitions

To create a new partition

sudo fdisk /dev/sdb

and follow the prompts to write a partition table and create a
partition. The defaults will go to a single giant partition,
sdb1.

To create a filesystem on sdb1:

sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1

To mount the partition temporarily:

sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp
sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/tmp

to unmount it:

sudo umount /dev/sdb1

To make it a normal part of your system, create a directory
where you want it to be -- /data ? /storage ? /backup ?
and then edit /etc/fstab.

-dsr-

Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Jerry Mellon]

Hi,
The Asus that I have is G75V series. It has 2 hdd bays onboard. The
500mv is the drive that is current installed and Debian 10.7 is
installed. I have purchased another 2T Segate drive that will go into
the empty bay.

I don't want to do anything fancy, just install and update fstat. The
question is what do I do in fstat to set it up. Currently the fstab file
reads as follows.



Disk /dev/sda: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Disk model: ST9500325AS 
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x0d0d6868

Device Boot Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  * 2048 951703551 951701504 453.8G 83 Linux
/dev/sda2   951705598 976771071  2506547412G  5 Extended
/dev/sda5   951705600 976771071  2506547212G 82 Linux swap /
Solaris


Do I set the new drive as /dev/sda6 , 7 , 8  and would it be a
single partition?

As always any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jerry





-Original Message-
From: Jerry Mellon 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Add a hard drive to existing system??
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 13:52:06 -0500

Hello,
New to Debian, but have gotten Debian 10.7 loaded on to my system. I
have an ASUS gaming laptop(dont use it for gaming) with 12gb of memory
and intel corei7 and a 500gb hard drive.

My question is what is the best(use dummy for linus statements please)
way to add a second hard drive with 2T of space. I wiil use this to
store photos and documents etc.

Thanks

Re: Some questions around needrestart utility

[l0f4r0]

17 janv. 2021 à 21:50 de didier.gau...@gmail.com:

> from https://github.com/liske/needrestart-session :
>  "needrestart checks which processes need to be restarted after library 
> upgrades. needrestart-session implements a notification of user sessions 
> about their obsolete processes after system upgrades."
>
> In short: automatic notification instead of manual checking :-)
>
Ohh I see. So it's all about notification.

This is the only way you get a notification that some services need to be 
restarted following your unattended-upgrades, right? Otherwise you would get 
nothing as unattended-upgrades is not interactive...

As a single user with only interactive upgrades, I'm not sure 
needrestart-session is useful to me right now. needrestart is probably enough.

Thanks
l0f4r0

Re: Some questions around needrestart utility

[didier gaumet]

Le 17/01/2021 à 21:37, l0f...@tuta.io a écrit :
[...]

I didn't pay attention there is a needrestart-session!

Can you tell me please how it could be useful to me if I have already 
needrestart?
Indeed, needrestart already lists me the "User sessions running outdated 
binaries"... What's more to expect?

[...]

from https://github.com/liske/needrestart-session :
 "needrestart checks which processes need to be restarted after library 
upgrades. needrestart-session implements a notification of user sessions 
about their obsolete processes after system upgrades."


In short: automatic notification instead of manual checking :-)

Re: Some questions around needrestart utility

[l0f4r0]

Hi,

17 janv. 2021 à 19:24 de didier.gau...@gmail.com:

> I installed needrestart (and needrestart-session too) because it is suggested 
> by unattended-upgrades (installed and running on my system, with 
> apt-listbugs), so when something has been upgraded and needs to be restarted, 
> needrestart pops up on my display to warn me
>
I didn't pay attention there is a needrestart-session!

Can you tell me please how it could be useful to me if I have already 
needrestart?
Indeed, needrestart already lists me the "User sessions running outdated 
binaries"... What's more to expect?

17 janv. 2021 à 21:06 de s...@svenhartge.de:

> All this is configured via /etc/needrestart/needrestart.conf.
>
> Services can be blacklisted and will never even show up and services can
> be overridden and will show up but will be deselected, for the admin to
> manually select them to be restarted should they so desire.
>
> The configuration provides a selection of pre-defined overrides, based
> on experience of the author(s), bug reports and input from users.
>
> You will find networking stuff like "NetworkManager" or display managers
> like "lightdm" in there to prevent you from sawing off the branch you
> are sitting on.
>
Ok, I didn't get this is the meaning of "override". Clear now, thanks.
Best regards,
l0f4r0

Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Marc Auslander]

Jerry Mellon  writes:

>Hello,
>New to Debian, but have gotten Debian 10.7 loaded on to my system. I
>have an ASUS gaming laptop(dont use it for gaming) with 12gb of memory
>and intel corei7 and a 500gb hard drive.
>
>My question is what is the best(use dummy for linus statements please)
>way to add a second hard drive with 2T of space. I wiil use this to
>store photos and documents etc.
>
>Thanks

A possible alternative is to see if your router supports storage, and if
not consider an upgrade.  Many modern routers support an attached disk
and provide network storage. Of course a major advantage of this is that
you will be able to carry the laptop around and maintain access to the
storage. An issue is that the storage will probably be Windows
formatted, and thus you will have to deal with incompatible meta
data. And you will have to configure debian access to a windows share.
To be honest, I've never tried this.  My linux sever is the NAS and
windows machines access it.

I think creating a linux nas may be too much for you, at least for now. 

Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 17.01.2021 23:52, Jerry Mellon wrote:

Hello,
New to Debian, but have gotten Debian 10.7 loaded on to my system. I
have an ASUS gaming laptop(dont use it for gaming) with 12gb of memory
and intel corei7 and a 500gb hard drive.

My question is what is the best(use dummy for linus statements please)
way to add a second hard drive with 2T of space. I wiil use this to
store photos and documents etc.

Thanks


If you tell us exact model of your laptop, I'll look for information 
about possible storage upgrades.
Some laptops have internal compartments and different kinds of 
connectors (M.2, NGFF, SATA connectors with variety of form factors, etc.),
so upgrading storage could be possible by purchasing few extra parts, 
like flat cable and drive caddy, or in some cases just by installing 
extra drive as is.


Personally, I always prefer storage to be internal, because of the 
mobility, so I buy laptops only with possible future upgrades to storage 
in mind.
I also have external HDD in a case with USB 3.0 interface, which I bring 
along on rare occasions.



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Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k)

[Brian]

On Sat 16 Jan 2021 at 20:57:19 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 01:19:21PM -0500, Steven Mainor wrote:
> > My main concern for the laptop in question is security. So from a
> > security standpoint, what is the difference between using a wifi
> > card with built in closed source firmware, and closed source
> > firmware that is loaded by the kernel like ath10k. Either way the
> > firmware is only running on the card, Not the CPU, correct?
> 
> The difference between burnt-in and loadable firmware is that the
> second can change under you at the manufacturer's whim [1]. This
> may have advantages and disadvantages, but you don't get to control
> those :)

In terms of control, the burnt-in firmware cannot cannot be controlled
either. I do not know where this gets us.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Charles Curley]

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 13:52:06 -0500
Jerry Mellon  wrote:

> I
> have an ASUS gaming laptop(dont use it for gaming) with 12gb of memory
> and intel corei7 and a 500gb hard drive.
> 
> My question is what is the best(use dummy for linus statements please)
> way to add a second hard drive with 2T of space. I wiil use this to
> store photos and documents etc.

I'm guessing you want an external drive for this, even if you have an
empty hard drive bay in the laptop. I'd get a USB 3 external drive. I
have several Seagate Backup Pluses that I use for offsite backups.

I highly recommend you encrypt the partitions on any external drive.

For how to do that, see:
https://charlescurley.com/blog/posts/2019/Nov/29/encrypting-an-external-partition/

Once you've done it, you'll want scripts to mount and unmount the
drive. https://charlescurley.com/blog/tag/backups.html

To back up to the external drive, consider rsnapshot. It will detect a
removable drive and only run if the partition is mounted.

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Re: Some questions around needrestart utility

[Sven Hartge]

l0f...@tuta.io wrote:

> Can someone explain me how needrestart (in interactive advanced mode)
> preselects services to be restarted  please? I mean when I launch it,
> only some services are preselected while others are not.So according
> to what criteria? Does it preselect those whose reboot has  less
> impact on the machine?

All this is configured via /etc/needrestart/needrestart.conf.

Services can be blacklisted and will never even show up and services can
be overridden and will show up but will be deselected, for the admin to
manually select them to be restarted should they so desire.

The configuration provides a selection of pre-defined overrides, based
on experience of the author(s), bug reports and input from users.

You will find networking stuff like "NetworkManager" or display managers
like "lightdm" in there to prevent you from sawing off the branch you
are sitting on.

All this can be of course tailored to your own liking.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Télécharger Signal smartphone à partir de f-droid

[didier gaumet]

a priori pas de Signal sur F-Droid:
 https://search.f-droid.org/?q=signal=fr

tu peux télécharger l'apk Signal sur leur site:
 https://signal.org/android/apk/

Re: Télécharger Signal smartphone à partir de f-droid

[didier gaumet]

https://www.frandroid.com/comment-faire/tutoriaux/184151_comment-installer-un-fichier-apk-sur-son-terminal-android

Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k)

[Brian]

On Sat 16 Jan 2021 at 21:12:54 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

[...]

> https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware is the page giving full details.


That is quite a smart page, explaining the need for firmware during
a Debian installation succinctly. It should have some prominance for
users.

The -devel thread is essentially about the need to make a wireless
chipset usuable when the Debian images do not support this. It is not
really about revisiting the argument about firmware as software of
many years ago. The OP simply wants to get something that works on
his machine without having to jump through Google hoops.

The Debian home page has "Download" as a prominent feature. It leads
to an amd64 netinst iso. Why can it not link to some documentation
(as above), and from there to what is available?

Pragmatism goes a long way to easing the path to installing Debian.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Joe]

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 18:59:18 +
Alain D D Williams  wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 01:52:06PM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> > Hello,
> > New to Debian, but have gotten Debian 10.7 loaded on to my system. I
> > have an ASUS gaming laptop(dont use it for gaming) with 12gb of
> > memory and intel corei7 and a 500gb hard drive.
> > 
> > My question is what is the best(use dummy for linus statements
> > please) way to add a second hard drive with 2T of space. I wiil use
> > this to store photos and documents etc.  
> 
> It is often hard to change the hardware on a laptop. Probably the
> easiest way is to get an external disk with a USB interface, then
> plug the disk in when you need to get/put files to the disk. 
> 

Probably so. But I have a netbook containing a hard-wired SSD but also
a space for a standard drive. That was not advertised by the seller, who
presumably didn't know about it, and it isn't obvious without removing
the bottom cover plate. I had to buy an adaptor cable for the
proprietary interface, but then was able to fit a standard SSD.

But that is probably not a common feature. Look for a USB/drive
interface that uses USB3 and whatever the latest SATA is (seems to
change every week) for maximum speed. Depending on the drive, it may or
may not need an additional power supply. Some can be powered from the
USB connection, but they are likely to be the slowest.

-- 
Joe

Télécharger Signal smartphone à partir de f-droid

[ajh-valmer]

On Sunday 17 January 2021 19:32:12 ajh-valmer wrote:
> On Sunday 17 January 2021 18:24:34 Philippe Gras wrote:
> > Il existe des dépôts alternatifs (j'utilise Aptoïd) où tu trouverais la
> > plupart des applications en usage, et beaucoup de pub :
> 
> Merci à tous pour ces bonnes réponses.
> Je vais essayer.

J'ai téléchargé f-droid, mais comment l'installer ?

Mon but est d'installer Signal messagerie sur mon smartphone.

Merci.

Re: Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Alain D D Williams]

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 01:52:06PM -0500, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> Hello,
> New to Debian, but have gotten Debian 10.7 loaded on to my system. I
> have an ASUS gaming laptop(dont use it for gaming) with 12gb of memory
> and intel corei7 and a 500gb hard drive.
> 
> My question is what is the best(use dummy for linus statements please)
> way to add a second hard drive with 2T of space. I wiil use this to
> store photos and documents etc.

It is often hard to change the hardware on a laptop. Probably the easiest way
is to get an external disk with a USB interface, then plug the disk in when you
need to get/put files to the disk. 

-- 
Alain Williams
Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT 
Lecturer.
+44 (0) 787 668 0256  https://www.phcomp.co.uk/
Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: 
https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html
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Add a hard drive to existing system??

[Jerry Mellon]

Hello,
New to Debian, but have gotten Debian 10.7 loaded on to my system. I
have an ASUS gaming laptop(dont use it for gaming) with 12gb of memory
and intel corei7 and a 500gb hard drive.

My question is what is the best(use dummy for linus statements please)
way to add a second hard drive with 2T of space. I wiil use this to
store photos and documents etc.

Thanks


-- 
Jerry Mellon
501 Los Caminos St.
St. Augustine, FL 32095
(407)461.9216

Re: zoom

[Camaleón]

El 2021-01-17 a las 12:29 -0500, diego leon giraldo garcia escribió:

> buenas tardes lista
> una pregunta muchachos si voy a instalar zoom como root desde
> /tmp/mozilla_diego0 donde tengo zoom_amd64.deb me pregunta donde o el lugar
> de destino, en que directorio del sistema es que debo instalar? pues quiero
> hacerlo por terminal no con Gdebi.

Se instala en /opt, o al menos es lo que se desprende si accedes al 
contenido del paquete «.deb». Entiendo que es una ruta opcional.

Yo suelo instalar los paquetes ajenos a los repositorios de Debian 
(LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird...) en /opt.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 

Re: [HS] Compte google exigé sur Android

[ajh-valmer]

On Sunday 17 January 2021 18:24:34 Philippe Gras wrote:
> Il existe des dépôts alternatifs (j'utilise Aptoïd) où tu trouverais la
> plupart des applications en usage, et beaucoup de pub :

Merci à tous pour ces bonnes réponses.
Je vais essayer.

> Bienvenue dans le monde merveilleux d'Androïd :

Mon ex-smartphone est un Nokia (pas système microsoft).
Je le trouvais nettement plus intuitif et facile qu'Androïd.
(question de sa prise en main sur le temps ?)

Bonne soirée.

Re: Some questions around needrestart utility

[didier gaumet]

Hello,

basically it seems to detect which service needs to be restarted after 
an upgrade


I installed needrestart (and needrestart-session too) because it is 
suggested by unattended-upgrades (installed and running on my system, 
with apt-listbugs), so when something has been upgraded and needs to be 
restarted, needrestart pops up on my display to warn me


You may read the README and explore/read the relevant files in /etc

didier@hp-notebook14:~$ apt-file list needrestart
needrestart: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99needrestart
needrestart: /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/needrestart
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/conf.d/README.needrestart
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/hook.d/10-dpkg
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/hook.d/20-rpm
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/hook.d/90-none
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/needrestart.conf
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/notify.conf
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/notify.d/200-write
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/notify.d/400-notify-send
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/notify.d/600-mail
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/notify.d/README.needrestart
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/restart.d/README.needrestart
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/restart.d/dbus.service
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/restart.d/systemd-manager
needrestart: /etc/needrestart/restart.d/sysv-init
needrestart: /usr/lib/needrestart/apt-pinvoke
needrestart: /usr/lib/needrestart/dpkg-status
needrestart: /usr/lib/needrestart/iucode-scan-versions
needrestart: /usr/lib/needrestart/notify.d.sh
needrestart: /usr/lib/needrestart/vmlinuz-get-version
needrestart: /usr/sbin/needrestart
needrestart: /usr/share/bug/needrestart/script
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/NEWS.Debian.gz
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/NEWS.gz
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/README.Cont.md
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/README.Interp.md
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/README.batch.md
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/README.md
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/README.nagios.md
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/README.uCode.md
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/changelog.Debian.gz
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/changelog.gz
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/copyright
needrestart: /usr/share/doc/needrestart/examples/needrestart-nagios
needrestart: /usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/needrestart-notify.mo
needrestart: /usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/needrestart.mo
needrestart: /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/needrestart-notify.mo
needrestart: /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/needrestart.mo
needrestart: /usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/needrestart-notify.mo
needrestart: /usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/needrestart.mo
needrestart: /usr/share/man/man1/needrestart.1.gz
needrestart: /usr/share/needrestart/needrestart.templates
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/CONT.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/CONT/LXC.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/CONT/docker.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/CONT/machined.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/Interp.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/Interp/Java.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/Interp/Perl.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/Interp/Python.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/Interp/Ruby.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/Kernel.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/Kernel/Linux.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/Kernel/kFreeBSD.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/Strings.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/UI.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/UI/Debconf.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/UI/stdio.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/Utils.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/uCode.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/perl5/NeedRestart/uCode/Intel.pm
needrestart: /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/net.fiasko-nw.needrestart.policy

didier@hp-notebook14:~$ apt-file list needrestart-session
needrestart-session: /etc/dbus-1/system.d/net.ibh.NeedRestart.System.conf
needrestart-session: /etc/needrestart/notify.d/300-needrestart-session
needrestart-session: /etc/xdg/autostart/needrestart-dbus-session.desktop
needrestart-session: /usr/bin/needrestart-session
needrestart-session: /usr/lib/needrestart-session/needrestart-dbus-session
needrestart-session: /usr/lib/needrestart-session/needrestart-dbus-system
needrestart-session: /usr/lib/needrestart-session/needrestart-x11
needrestart-session: /usr/share/applications/needrestart-session.desktop
needrestart-session: /usr/share/applications/needrestart.desktop
needrestart-session: 
/usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/net.ibh.NeedRestart.System.service

needrestart-session: /usr/share/doc/needrestart-session/README.md
needrestart-session: /usr/share/doc/needrestart-session/changelog.Debian.gz
needrestart-session: /usr/share/doc/needrestart-session/changelog.gz
needrestart-session: /usr/share/doc/needrestart-session/copyright

Re: (HS) Liste mot de passe

[Georges]

 Re bonjour,

Le Sun, 17 Jan 2021 17:15:29 +0100,

DG a écrit :

> Le 17/01/2021 à 16:39, Georges a écrit :
> [...]
> >   Je ne suis pas arrivé, dans les paramètres de mon compte à
> > éliminer cette liste.
> [...]
> 
> la procédure est expliquée là:
>   https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/1070455?hl=fr
> 
> si tu utilises Chrome/Chromium avec la synchronisation activée, c'est 
> cette procédure qui est adaptée:
>  
> https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95606?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop=fr
> 
> il est peut-être préférable de faire les deux...
> 
  Bon comme je déteste de plus en plus les GAFAM, ni une ni deux j'ai
  tout supprime Compte et boîte au lettre.

  On verra bien si je peu m'en passer ;-)

-- 
Georges

Some questions around needrestart utility

[l0f4r0]

Hi,

Can someone explain me how needrestart (in interactive advanced mode) 
preselects services to be restarted  please? I mean when I launch it, only some 
services are preselected while others are not.So according to what criteria? 
Does it preselect those whose reboot has  less impact on the machine?

It seems to be a great utility (hook with dpkg and configurable).
Did you need some specific configuration or has it been working out of the box 
for you?

Do you have good reasons to use checkrestart instead (in package 
debian-goodies)?

Thanks in advance for your feedback :)

Best regards,
l0f4r0

Re: Problème d'installation deDebian sur un ordinateur portable

[Frederic Zulian]

Oui, de mémoire l'installateur doit te demander si tu n'as pas le driver
sur un autre support comme une clef USB.

Le dim. 17 janv. 2021 à 16:35, Kohler Gerard  a
écrit :

> je suis dans le même cas, mais j'ai contourné le problème en utilisant
> une adaptateur ethernet-usb qui est bien reconnu lors d'une net-install
> (environ une dizaine d'euros)
> sur un portable sans prise Ethernet ça évite bien des problèmes
>
> Gerard
>
> Le 17/01/2021 à 11:35, benoit a écrit :
> >
> > Bonjour à tou·te·s,
> >
> > J’essaye d’installer une debian sur un portable qui n’a pas de carte
> > réseau.
> >
> > Problème 1 : la puce wifi (RTL8821CE) n’est pas reconnue par le
> > processus d’installation.
> >
> > Y a-t-il une solution pour faire fonctionner cette puce wifi ?
> >
> > Pour installer un système « complet » malgré l’absence de réseau, j’ai
> > utilisé l’iso du DVD 1 plutôt que le net install.
> >
>
>

zoom

[diego leon giraldo garcia]

buenas tardes lista
una pregunta muchachos si voy a instalar zoom como root desde
/tmp/mozilla_diego0 donde tengo zoom_amd64.deb me pregunta donde o el lugar
de destino, en que directorio del sistema es que debo instalar? pues quiero
hacerlo por terminal no con Gdebi.
 gracias

Re: [HS] Compte google exigé sur Android

[Philippe]

Salut la liste !

> Ton debian n'utilise pas le Play store de Google. Si tu veux installer un 
> programme sans passer par le Play store, rien ne t'empêche de télécharger les 
> pkg et de les installer a la main, quand tu les trouvés. Ou de rooter ton 
> android, avec les risques que cela comporte.
> Je rebondis sur un problème de mot de passe chez google.

> 
> J'ai un smartphone récent avec (l'éternel) Android.
> 
> Je ne peux rien télécharger, ni installer une application,
> sans avoir un compte google.
> Je n'en ai pas, tant celui que j'avais me poser problème.
> Après déplacement en itinérance, à mon retour chez moi, 
> le mot de passe était refusé.

Il existe des dépôts alternatifs (j'utilise Aptoïd) où tu trouverais la plupart 
des applications en usage, et beaucoup de pub.

Bienvenue dans le monde merveilleux d'Androïd,

Ph. Gras

Re: (HS) Liste mot de passe

[didier gaumet]

Le 17/01/2021 à 16:39, Georges a écrit :
[...]

  Je ne suis pas arrivé, dans les paramètres de mon compte à éliminer
  cette liste.

[...]

la procédure est expliquée là:
 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/1070455?hl=fr

si tu utilises Chrome/Chromium avec la synchronisation activée, c'est 
cette procédure qui est adaptée:


https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95606?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop=fr

il est peut-être préférable de faire les deux...

Re: (HS) Liste mot de passe

[Georges]

 Bonjour et grand merci

Le Sun, 17 Jan 2021 10:25:20 +0100,

DG a écrit :

> Le 17/01/2021 à 07:56, Georges a écrit :
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> >   Incidemment, en voulant installer l'application Signal sur mon
> > téléphone, j'ai découvert sur mon vieux compte Gooog dont j'avais
> > perdu le mot de passe, que ce compte avait la liste complète de TOUS
> > mes mots de passe. Ceux de TOUTES mes boîtes de courrier, de tous
> > les Wiki, Blog, Sites ou j'avais souscrit un abonnement et ceux de
> > TOUS les espaces client créés chez des fournisseurs.
> > Complètement suffoqué, je me demande si j'ai commis une bêtise ou si
> > c'est si facile d'avoir cette liste pour Gooog.
> > Beaucoup disent qu'ils n'ont rien à cacher mais moi je ne supporte
> > pas d'être espionné.
> > Pouvez vous m'éclairer ? Merci par avance.
> 
> Bien que le comportement des Fournisseurs d'Accès Internet et des 
> acteurs d'internet en général ne soit pas toujours très éthique, en 
> l'occurrence, il est ici probable que tu aies autorisé Google à
> stocker tes mots de passe, soit sans comprendre les implications de
> la question qui t'a été posée, soit par commodité et que tu aies
> oublié.
> 
> Concernant Google, de ce que je comprends, tu peux régler ça sur le
> web Google dans les paramètres de ton compte, ou dans les paramètres
> de Chrome/Chromium si tu l'utilises et a activé la synchronisation.
> 
> Tu aurais par exemple le même problème avec Firefox si tu l'utilisais
> et avais activé la synchronisation.
> 
> Et concernant les sauvegardes (backups), si tu sauvegardes tes mots
> de passe, par définition ils figurent sur ton support de sauvegarde
> (qu'il soit physique ou qu'il s'agisse du Cloud). Ce qui représente
> aussi un risque bien que de nature un peu différente.
> 
> Donc tout ça dépend de tes exigences en termes de sécurité, une fois 
> compris que la sécurité totale n'existe pas et qu'assez souvent 
> l'augmentation de la sécurité se fait au détriment de la productivité
> ou du confort d'utilisation, mais que l'absence totale de sécurité
> est un risque avéré.
>   Rajoute le fait que suivant ton humeur et ton état de forme, tes 
> exigences ne sont pas forcément les mêmes...
> :-)
> 
 Je ne suis pas arrivé, dans les paramètres de mon compte à éliminer
 cette liste.
 Mais j'ai bien envi de supprimer ce compte et la boîte de courrier.
 Je vais voir avec Tor si je trouve une solution pour le faire.
 Merci encore pour cette réponse. 

-- 
 Georges

Re: [HS] Compte google exigé sur Android

[François LE GAD]

Le 17/01/2021 à 15:53, François Patte a écrit :


Installe f-droid (https://f-droid.org/fr/)


+1

Et tu trouveras ensuite, dans le dépôt f-droid, qui ne contient que des 
applis libres, l'appli Aurora store, qui donne un accès anonyme au dépôt 
google. Il faut parfois de la patience, il arrive que le serveur 
d'Aurora soit surchargé.


--
François

Re: Problème d'installation deDebian sur un ordinateur portable

[François LE GAD]

Le 17/01/2021 à 11:35, benoit a écrit :
Problème 1 : la puce wifi (RTL8821CE) n’est pas reconnue par le 
processus d’installation.


Installe le paquet firmware-realtek. Ton modèle du puce n'est pas dans 
la liste, mais ça pourrait marcher avec un peu de chance.


--
François

Re: Problème d'installation deDebian sur un ordinateur portable

[Kohler Gerard]

je suis dans le même cas, mais j'ai contourné le problème en utilisant 
une adaptateur ethernet-usb qui est bien reconnu lors d'une net-install 
(environ une dizaine d'euros)

sur un portable sans prise Ethernet ça évite bien des problèmes

Gerard

Le 17/01/2021 à 11:35, benoit a écrit :


Bonjour à tou·te·s,

J’essaye d’installer une debian sur un portable qui n’a pas de carte 
réseau.


Problème 1 : la puce wifi (RTL8821CE) n’est pas reconnue par le 
processus d’installation.


Y a-t-il une solution pour faire fonctionner cette puce wifi ?

Pour installer un système « complet » malgré l’absence de réseau, j’ai 
utilisé l’iso du DVD 1 plutôt que le net install.

Re: Debian and Android

[Peter Ehlert]

On 1/17/21 6:57 AM, Celejar wrote:

On 17 Jan 2021 10:41:07 GMT
Curt  wrote:


On 2021-01-16, Dale Amon  wrote:

I simply want to drag my photos from the phone over a USB mount
and store them on my laptop.


If both your phone and your laptop are on the same LAN:

https://snapdrop.net/

https://github.com/RobinLinus/snapdrop/blob/master/docs/faq.md

Convenient and easy to use, so probably will be detested by the usual
curmudgeons of the group.

Security concerns do seem minimal, though, and I tried the app a couple
of times and it did work simply and nicely.

Huh - that looks neat! I have Syncthing set up to do my file
transferring between phone, laptop, and servers,

+1 Syncthing

but this certainly
looks like a useful solution for situations where one just needs a
quick and simple way to do a file transfer.

Thanks,

Celejar

Re: [HS] Compte google exigé sur Android

[Tulum]

Le dimanche 17 janvier 2021, 15:17:32 CET ajh-valmer a écrit :
> Bonjour,
> 
> Je rebondis sur un problème de mot de passe chez google.
> 
> J'ai un smartphone récent avec (l'éternel) Android.
> 
> Je ne peux rien télécharger, ni installer une application,
> sans avoir un compte google.
> Je n'en ai pas, tant celui que j'avais me poser problème.
> Après déplacement en itinérance, à mon retour chez moi,
> le mot de passe était refusé.
> 
> Pourtant sur mon ordinateur (sous Debian),
> aucun mot de passe ne m'ait demandé pour télécharger
> une application, même depuis la fenêtre google sous Firefox.
> 
> Merci,
> 
> Bon dimanche,
> 
> AJH Valmer
Bonjour,

tu peux utiliser le magasin f-droid qui te permet d'installer plusieurs applis 
sans avoir de compte google et d'avoir un téléphone android "dégooglisé".
/e/ me semble la meilleure alternative à l'android de google (si ton téléphone 
est compatible)
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Re: Debian and Android

[Celejar]

On 17 Jan 2021 10:41:07 GMT
Curt  wrote:

> On 2021-01-16, Dale Amon  wrote:
> >
> > I simply want to drag my photos from the phone over a USB mount
> > and store them on my laptop.
> >
> 
> If both your phone and your laptop are on the same LAN:
> 
> https://snapdrop.net/
> 
> https://github.com/RobinLinus/snapdrop/blob/master/docs/faq.md
> 
> Convenient and easy to use, so probably will be detested by the usual
> curmudgeons of the group.
> 
> Security concerns do seem minimal, though, and I tried the app a couple
> of times and it did work simply and nicely.

Huh - that looks neat! I have Syncthing set up to do my file
transferring between phone, laptop, and servers, but this certainly
looks like a useful solution for situations where one just needs a
quick and simple way to do a file transfer.

Thanks,

Celejar

Re: [HS] Compte google exigé sur Android

[François Patte]

Le 17/01/2021 à 15:17, ajh-valmer a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je rebondis sur un problème de mot de passe chez google.

J'ai un smartphone récent avec (l'éternel) Android.

Je ne peux rien télécharger, ni installer une application,
sans avoir un compte google.
Je n'en ai pas, tant celui que j'avais me poser problème.
Après déplacement en itinérance, à mon retour chez moi,
le mot de passe était refusé.

Pourtant sur mon ordinateur (sous Debian),
aucun mot de passe ne m'ait demandé pour télécharger
une application, même depuis la fenêtre google sous Firefox.


Installe f-droid (https://f-droid.org/fr/)  et/ou apkpure 
(https://apkpure.com/) tu y trouveras des tas d'applications pour 
android sans passer par google.


f-droid est "libre", pas apkpure mais les deux sont gratos.

--
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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Re: sharing a network connection from debian to non-debian

[Celejar]

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 09:25:31 +0200
Andrei POPESCU  wrote:

...

> Look for a router supported by OpenWrt. They are typically more 
> expensive, but could very well be worth the investment in the long run, 
> especially if it would work also with your older boxes.

You might be surprised at how affordable OpenWrt compatible gear can
be. Look at brands like GL.iNet - they sell units with OpenWrt
installed for as little as ~$20 (802.11n) / ~$40 (low-end 802.11ac).

The big problem with OpenWrt, as I was just reminded while searching
for easily accesible information about budget OpenWrt routers, is that
there's no reliable, comprehensive, up-to-date documentation on
currently available models and their OpenWrt compatibility, and so
trying to to find the best unit to purchase for ones needs / budget
can mean wading through forum threads often full of outdated
information (or just asking your own question on the forums).

FWIW, I've been using a TP-Link AC2600 with OpenWrt for years, and I've
been pretty satisfied with it.

Celejar

Re: [HS] Compte google exigé sur Android

[Olivier Lange]

Ton debian n'utilise pas le Play store de Google. Si tu veux installer un
programme sans passer par le Play store, rien ne t'empêche de télécharger
les pkg et de les installer a la main, quand tu les trouvés. Ou de rooter
ton android, avec les risques que cela comporte.

Olivier

Le dim. 17 janv. 2021 09 h 17, ajh-valmer  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> Je rebondis sur un problème de mot de passe chez google.
>
> J'ai un smartphone récent avec (l'éternel) Android.
>
> Je ne peux rien télécharger, ni installer une application,
> sans avoir un compte google.
> Je n'en ai pas, tant celui que j'avais me poser problème.
> Après déplacement en itinérance, à mon retour chez moi,
> le mot de passe était refusé.
>
> Pourtant sur mon ordinateur (sous Debian),
> aucun mot de passe ne m'ait demandé pour télécharger
> une application, même depuis la fenêtre google sous Firefox.
>
> Merci,
>
> Bon dimanche,
>
> AJH Valmer
>
>

[HS] Compte google exigé sur Android

[ajh-valmer]

Bonjour,

Je rebondis sur un problème de mot de passe chez google.

J'ai un smartphone récent avec (l'éternel) Android.

Je ne peux rien télécharger, ni installer une application,
sans avoir un compte google.
Je n'en ai pas, tant celui que j'avais me poser problème.
Après déplacement en itinérance, à mon retour chez moi, 
le mot de passe était refusé.

Pourtant sur mon ordinateur (sous Debian),
aucun mot de passe ne m'ait demandé pour télécharger 
une application, même depuis la fenêtre google sous Firefox.

Merci,

Bon dimanche,

AJH Valmer

Re: Cookies and so-called Privacy Policy [was: Debian and Android]

[tomas]

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 02:32:12PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > One of the bigger hosting providers here in Germany [...]

> Oh, you noticed this too

I sure did :)

>  It started may be 1-2 months ago. This is why I
> discussed this with my peers in the EU commission and she said they know of
> these developments and are monitoring them - whatever it means.

Thanks for raising awareness!

> > Yeah, GDPR is fun. But I'm glad we have (at least) that.
> > 
> 
> yes, true - I just wonder if it helps though, because it is only few crazy
> people like you and me that bother to look into this.

Don't underestimate what a bunch of crazy folks are capable of. GPL and
Linux are possible outcomes!

> Yup, fully agree - the problem is the people who "simply don't have to hide
> anything"

Talking helps. It's "small work", and much of it is needed.

Cheers
 - tomás


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Re: Cookies and so-called Privacy Policy [was: Debian and Android]

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> One of the bigger hosting providers here in Germany, for its admin
> interface, has one of those cookies thingy: either you say "accept all"
> (that's the bright green button) or you say "edit preferences" (the light
> grey button which nearly fades into the background).
> 
> So far, so normal. Now, you choose "edit" and disable everything you can
> disable (a hassle, because there are like 5 checkboxes, from targeted
> ads to affiliate networks).
> 
> There are then two buttons. Guess... The default one, again bright green
> says "accept all cookies anyway", the grey one says "confirm settings".
> 

Oh, you noticed this too. It started may be 1-2 months ago. This is why I
discussed this with my peers in the EU commission and she said they know of
these developments and are monitoring them - whatever it means.

> Yeah, GDPR is fun. But I'm glad we have (at least) that.
> 

yes, true - I just wonder if it helps though, because it is only few crazy
people like you and me that bother to look into this.

>> > Interesting times, for sure.
>>
>> yes indeed - from some personal sources in the EU commission they are
>> watching these developments, but you know "International corporate
>> law ..." - seems like they do not have many options or capacity to deal
>> with the big brothers.
>> 
>> Interesting times indeed
> 
> They'll put up a fight, for sure. And they have lots of money, too. But
> their money is pretty volatile (watch twitter losing 20% of their market
> value after they kicked Trump), and they are extremely dependent on
> public perception (they are all ad companies, after all).
> 
> Cheers
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern

Yup, fully agree - the problem is the people who "simply don't have to hide
anything"

regards

Algú vol col·laborar en aquest projecte?

[Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda]

Benvolgut Joan,

El 14/1/21 a les 20:48, Joan Baptista ha escrit:
> 
> Llegeixo i gaudeixo aquesta llista de fa bastants anys i tinc clar que
> ni soc dels que mes ni dels que menys sap d’informàtica i
> telecomunicacions, ni de Linux, ni de Debian dintre d’aquesta llista.

Molt bé. Jo també estic com tu, però això és una arma de doble fil:
moltes vegades podem saber molt d'un tema però molt poc d'una altre.

> 
> Aquesta es la primera vegada que escric demanant ajuda, 

Jo n'he demanat un munt.


> ja que em dol
> molt portar mesos sense trobar gent que ni provi, ni utilitzi ni millori
> el millor programa que mai he fet i faré a la meva vida, 

Uff, em sembla que aquí es barregen moltes coses. Si m'ho permets, amb
tot el respecte del món et diria que:

- Puc entendre que si fas alguna cosa i ho poses a la comunitat tinguis
ganes de tenir un cert "retorn", però la comunitat no està obligada a
fer-ho. Si ho fas és per que "vols". Ningú t'obliga. Per altra banda,
tampoc ningú té l'obligació d'utilitzar el teu programa, ni de millorar-ho.

- Crec que cap de nosaltres tenim una bola per endevinar el futur
i per tant és molt categòric fer aquestes afirmacions respecte del que
faràs a la teva vida.

> que tot i tenir
> clar que no es cap gran meravella, si considero que el objectiu d’aquest
> programa es digne d’una mica mes d’atenció i feina (promoció, fer un
> manual, actualitzar versions de sistemes operatius, traduir a mes
> idiomes i/o qualsevol altra cosa) i per això avui he decidit que potser
> algú d’aquesta llista em pot ajudar, encara que només fos posant-me en
> contacte amb algú a qui li podria interessar.

No crec que siguin les formes més adequades però. Aquest tipus de coses
no tenen perquè tenir èxit a la primera ni molt menys.


> El objectiu de Tria S.O. 1.2.12 (tant la versió per Windows, com per
> GNU/Linux) es ajudar al màxim de gent possible de tot el mon a descobrir
> i utilitzar GNU/Linux (preferentment Debian o derivats, però he volgut
> donar el màxim de llibertat possible a qui utilitzi el programa)
> recomanant els sistemes operatius d’escriptori (privatiu, lliure i fins
> i tot un de cada) que poden provocar el millor rendiment a qualsevol pc
> que tingui menys de 25 anys d’antiguitat, tant si es tracta
> d’ordinador(s) molt potent(s) com si no.

Mira, si et dic la veritat no entenc molt bé l'objectiu del teu
programa. Jo voldria que es fes servir GNU/Linux i en concret Debian.
Fins a cert punt m'importa un rave si el seu rendiment és millor en
Windows o pitjor.

De totes maneres, tampoc trobo sentit a aquest programa. Poses aquest
programa a una màquina i en funció, entenc de CPU, Memòria, Disc, etc
fent servir algun criteri et diu quin SO li convé més ... però per què?

Són els usuaris amb les seves necessitats els que determinen què posar a
les màquines. Si el teu programa li diu que el millor per aquella
màquina és un GNU/Linux, bla, bla però aquella persona necessita un
programa que _només_ funciona en Windows, no ha servit de res.

> A https://tria-s-o-1-2.sourceforge.io
>  no només hi trobareu els 2
> programes i el codi font (unes 1.000 línies aproximadament, tant codi
> Visual Basic com codi Gambas) sinó també els documents que vaig crear
> prèviament per poder començar a programar.

Aquí hi ha segons la meva opinió dos erros greus. El primer és estar
només a Sourceforge. Sourceforge va ser una peça clau anys enrere però
ara, pel meu gust, està totalment desfasat. Com a plataforma pel
desenvolupament el proposaria github o fins i tot gitlab.

I el segon és el llenguatge de programació. Fer servir Visual Basic (o
Gambas) pot estar molt bé com a exercici d'aprenentatge i per alguna
aplicació molt concreta, però es fa servir molt poc. No pretenguis que
algú tinguis ganes de posar-s'hi. Mira't [1].

Mirant per sobre el codi, et diria:

- Elimina tots els fitxers ~ . Són còpies antigues i queda molt lleig
posar-les. Denota codi mal cuidat.

- No hi ha cap instrucció (o jo no n'he trobat) que expliqui com
construir el projecte. Ni els requeriments. Cap Makefile, CMake, Build
instruccions, etc. Només si ja el tens construït.

- Els fitxers que comencen per punt són ocults a Unix. Perquè n'hi ha un
munt? Quin sentit tenen?

- El formulari principal és infumable. Massa informació, no és fàcil de
llegir i no s'entén.

- Tens un fitxer de puntuació amb uns criteris. Com has triat aquests
criteris i no us altres? Per què ATI 2 punts i Nvidia 2,5. Per què
valores igual un SSD que un M.2? Jo no estic d'acord. Un M.2 PCI va molt
més ràpid que un M.2 amb interface SATA o un SSD and Sata.

- Desacobla la part gràfica de la lògica del programa. Una cosa és la
lògica del teu programa i l'altre com exposes els resultats.

Jo et proposaria que partint de la teva experiència facis:

- Una nova versió en Python. Si no en saps et serveix d'excusa per
aprendre'n.

- Dissenya una estructura clara on hi hagi unes funcions que et retornin
resultat amb les 

Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k)

[Darac Marjal]

On 17/01/2021 05:03, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Nothing immediate for the former, but for the latter, you may want to
>> look at the 'vrms' package.
> Yes, I use that as well.  But that's an "opt-in", and it's rather crude
> (and operates after the fact).  I think Debian would benefit from having
> this kind of mechanism be much more "in your face" (and more
> informative/educational).  It would make it more acceptable (to me,
> anyway) to distribute install-media with non-free firmwares, knowing that
> those firmware won't be enabled silently).

In theory, I imagine it would be possible to make some sort of hook for
apt here. That is, in the same way that apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges
fire off before apt runs and as "Are you still sure you want to install
these packages?", it might be possible to do the same with vrms.

Oh, yes, here's a wishlist bug from 2014 requesting this functionality:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742854


>
>> On my system (and I believe by default), it's set up with a monthly cron
>> job to send an E-mail with the output of the program. I review that list
>> every time, and there's rarely anything I feel I can clean up from the
>> list, but it has happened a time or two. To the best of my recollection,
>> I've never yet felt the need to run the program by hand.
> FWIW, I only ever run it by hand.  I can't remember disabling any
> monthly cron job nor receiving any email from it, OTOH.  I guess it
> somehow guessed that I'd prefer to run it by hand ;-)
>
>
> Stefan
>



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Re: Disk errors ...

[Dominique Dumont]

On jeudi 14 janvier 2021 00:14:16 CET Michael Stone wrote:
> A more likely source of problems is the fact that the SATA connector is
> actually spec'd for a really low number of cycles.

I also had trouble on an Olimex card. I got error when the cable is not coming 
straight in the connector. 

When viewing the flat side of a SATA cable, any sideway tension on the cable 
would lead to errors.

HTH

Re: Cookies and so-called Privacy Policy [was: Debian and Android]

[tomas]

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 12:13:32PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > A friend of mine once suggested to return /dev/random to a site's
> > cookie request. I'm tempted to try that :-)
> > 
> 
> sounds funny indeed

...and fuzzy (this would be a cookie parser fuzzer :)

> I actually got the message when I refused to concent. Usually it then (in
> most cases) turns the sh*t off and allows you to view the page, but in this
> case it said - "no sorry"

Yes -- I've seen lots of UI fantasy in that context. Mostly variations
on the "dark pattern" [1] theme.

One of the bigger hosting providers here in Germany, for its admin interface,
has one of those cookies thingy: either you say "accept all" (that's the
bright green button) or you say "edit preferences" (the light grey button
which nearly fades into the background).

So far, so normal. Now, you choose "edit" and disable everything you can
disable (a hassle, because there are like 5 checkboxes, from targeted
ads to affiliate networks).

There are then two buttons. Guess... The default one, again bright green
says "accept all cookies anyway", the grey one says "confirm settings".

Yeah, GDPR is fun. But I'm glad we have (at least) that.

> > Interesting times, for sure.
>
> yes indeed - from some personal sources in the EU commission they are
> watching these developments, but you know "International corporate
> law ..." - seems like they do not have many options or capacity to deal
> with the big brothers.
> 
> Interesting times indeed

They'll put up a fight, for sure. And they have lots of money, too. But
their money is pretty volatile (watch twitter losing 20% of their market
value after they kicked Trump), and they are extremely dependent on
public perception (they are all ad companies, after all).

Cheers

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern

 - t


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Re: Debian and Android

[Anssi Saari]

Dale Amon  writes:

> I simply want to drag my photos from the phone over a USB mount
> and store them on my laptop.

Well, if it's just photos then you could try using PTP instead of
MTP. Should be under USB Preferences on the phone and I think Gnome's
file manager should support it out of the box.

Re: Problème d'installation deDebian sur un ordinateur portable

[didier gaumet]

Pour le wifi, j'ai une RTL8821CE dont je ne me sers plus (remplacée par 
une Intel): le driver n'était pas (dans Buster, mais je ne pense pas que 
ça ait déjà changé) dans les sources du noyau Linux, il faut le 
construire à partir des sources (dans mon cas, pinho).

 https://github.com/tomaspinho/rtl8821ce

https://github.com/endlessm/linux/tree/master/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8821ce

Perso, j'ai installé en netinst par une liaison ethernet puis j'ai 
construit le module. Si tu n'as pas de carte ethernet ou de routeur 
accessible par ce moyen, tu peux installer par CD ou DVD.


Pour le graphisme, peut-être voir dans les logs si il ne manque pas un 
firmware, je ne sais pas...

Re: Cookies and so-called Privacy Policy [was: Debian and Android]

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> A friend of mine once suggested to return /dev/random to a site's
> cookie request. I'm tempted to try that :-)
> 

sounds funny indeed

> This is one good effect of EU's GDPR: the data-sucking machines are
> running around like beheaded chicken: fun to watch ;-D
> 

I actually got the message when I refused to concent. Usually it then (in
most cases) turns the sh*t off and allows you to view the page, but in this
case it said - "no sorry"

> The only downside is that the behemoths are much better prepared to
> tackle the situation (even perhaps to take advantage of it). In the
> long term, I fear this may foster concentration (even more).
> 
> Interesting times, for sure.

yes indeed - from some personal sources in the EU commission they are
watching these developments, but you know "International corporate
law ..." - seems like they do not have many options or capacity to deal
with the big brothers.

Interesting times indeed

Re: Problème d'installation deDebian sur un ordinateur portable

[Olivier Humbert]

Le 2021-01-17 11:35, benoit a écrit :

Bonjour à tou·te·s,

J’essaye d’installer une debian sur un portable qui n’a pas de
carte réseau.

Problème 1 : la puce wifi (RTL8821CE) n’est pas reconnue par le
processus d’installation.

Y a-t-il une solution pour faire fonctionner cette puce wifi ?

Pour installer un système « complet » malgré l’absence de
réseau, j’ai utilisé l’iso du DVD 1 plutôt que le net install.


[...]

Une recherche rapide sur le wiki de Debian donne :
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Lenovo/ideapad%20340%20(buster)#Wifi

En espérant que ça t'aide.
Olivier

Re: Debian and Android

[Curt]

On 2021-01-16, Dale Amon  wrote:
>
> I simply want to drag my photos from the phone over a USB mount
> and store them on my laptop.
>

If both your phone and your laptop are on the same LAN:

https://snapdrop.net/

https://github.com/RobinLinus/snapdrop/blob/master/docs/faq.md

Convenient and easy to use, so probably will be detested by the usual
curmudgeons of the group.

Security concerns do seem minimal, though, and I tried the app a couple
of times and it did work simply and nicely.

Re: Problème d'installation deDebian sur un ordinateur portable

[Basile Starynkevitch]

On 1/17/21 11:35 AM, benoit wrote:


Bonjour à tou·te·s,

J’essaye d’installer une debian sur un portable qui n’a pas de carte 
réseau.


Problème 1 : la puce wifi (RTL8821CE) n’est pas reconnue par le 
processus d’installation.


Y a-t-il une solution pour faire fonctionner cette puce wifi ?

Pour installer un système « complet » malgré l’absence de réseau, j’ai 
utilisé l’iso du DVD 1 plutôt que le net install.


Problème 2 : après l’installation la « session graphique » ne démarre pas.

Xorg.0.log :

Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs

--8<--

Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

Dans messages(/var/log/) j’ai eu ceci :

lightdm[689]: Could not enumerate user data directory 
/var/lib/lightdm/data: Error opening directory 
'/var/lib/lightdm/data': No such file or directory


Mais j’ai modifié :

|systemctl set-default multi-user.target|

Pour lancer X manuellement avec startx.

Donc le problème ne vient pas de lightdm…

En redirigeant les erreurs de startx 2> errors.txt :

Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"

xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)



Je crois que dans ce cas la solution est d'avoir un fichier 
/etc/X11/Xorg.conf explicite. Il faut bidouiller en partant de la sortie 
de Xorg -configure


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92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France
web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/

Problème d'installation deDebian sur un ordinateur portable

[benoit]

Bonjour à tou·te·s,

J’essaye d’installer une debian sur un portable qui n’a pas de carte réseau.

Problème 1 : la puce wifi (RTL8821CE) n’est pas reconnue par le processus 
d’installation.

Y a-t-il une solution pour faire fonctionner cette puce wifi ?

Pour installer un système « complet » malgré l’absence de réseau, j’ai utilisé 
l’iso du DVD 1 plutôt que le net install.

Problème 2 : après l’installation la « session graphique » ne démarre pas.

Xorg.0.log :

Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs

--8<--

Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

Dans messages(/var/log/) j’ai eu ceci :

lightdm[689]: Could not enumerate user data directory /var/lib/lightdm/data: 
Error opening directory '/var/lib/lightdm/data': No such file or directory

Mais j’ai modifié :

systemctl set-default multi-user.target

Pour lancer X manuellement avec startx.

Donc le problème ne vient pas de lightdm…

En redirigeant les erreurs de startx 2> errors.txt :

Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"

xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)

(EE)

Fatal server error:

(EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer 
devices

(EE)

(EE)

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at 
[http://wiki.x.org](http://wiki.x.org/) for help.

(EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional 
information.

(EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

xinit: giving up

xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused

xinit: unexpected signal 2

Quelqu’un a une idée ?

Merci d’avance !

--

Benoit

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Cookies and so-called Privacy Policy [was: Debian and Android]

[tomas]

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 10:30:13AM +0100, deloptes wrote:

[...]

> sorry but this is site is crap
> 
> 
> Consent Denied
> 
> You have not agreed to WonderHowTo, Gaget Hacks, & Next Reality's use of
> cookies, Terms of Use Agreement, and/or Privacy Policy [...]

Pfft.

A friend of mine once suggested to return /dev/random to a site's
cookie request. I'm tempted to try that :-)

This is one good effect of EU's GDPR: the data-sucking machines are
running around like beheaded chicken: fun to watch ;-D

The only downside is that the behemoths are much better prepared to
tackle the situation (even perhaps to take advantage of it). In the
long term, I fear this may foster concentration (even more).

Interesting times, for sure.

Cheers
 - t


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Re: Debian and Android

[didier gaumet]

Le 17/01/2021 à 10:30, deloptes a écrit :

didier gaumet wrote:

[...]

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/make-usb-connection-your-android-phone-default-file-transfer-mode-0234540/

sorry but this is site is crap

[...]

OK, my bad, sorry

then let's enounce the steps on my Android phone (translated from french)

 Parameters > System > Developer's options > Default USB Configuration

Re: Debian and Android

[deloptes]

didier gaumet wrote:

> It is probably related to your Android settings and independant of your
> PC OS (Debian):
> 
>
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/make-usb-connection-your-android-phone-default-file-transfer-mode-0234540/

sorry but this is site is crap


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Re: (HS) Liste mot de passe

[didier gaumet]

Le 17/01/2021 à 07:56, Georges a écrit :

Bonjour,

  Incidemment, en voulant installer l'application Signal sur mon
téléphone, j'ai découvert sur mon vieux compte Gooog dont j'avais
perdu le mot de passe, que ce compte avait la liste complète de TOUS
mes mots de passe. Ceux de TOUTES mes boîtes de courrier, de tous les
Wiki, Blog, Sites ou j'avais souscrit un abonnement et ceux de TOUS
les espaces client créés chez des fournisseurs.
Complètement suffoqué, je me demande si j'ai commis une bêtise ou si
c'est si facile d'avoir cette liste pour Gooog.
Beaucoup disent qu'ils n'ont rien à cacher mais moi je ne supporte pas
d'être espionné.
Pouvez vous m'éclairer ? Merci par avance.


Bien que le comportement des Fournisseurs d'Accès Internet et des 
acteurs d'internet en général ne soit pas toujours très éthique, en 
l'occurrence, il est ici probable que tu aies autorisé Google à stocker 
tes mots de passe, soit sans comprendre les implications de la question 
qui t'a été posée, soit par commodité et que tu aies oublié.


Concernant Google, de ce que je comprends, tu peux régler ça sur le web 
Google dans les paramètres de ton compte, ou dans les paramètres de 
Chrome/Chromium si tu l'utilises et a activé la synchronisation.


Tu aurais par exemple le même problème avec Firefox si tu l'utilisais et 
avais activé la synchronisation.


Et concernant les sauvegardes (backups), si tu sauvegardes tes mots de 
passe, par définition ils figurent sur ton support de sauvegarde (qu'il 
soit physique ou qu'il s'agisse du Cloud). Ce qui représente aussi un 
risque bien que de nature un peu différente.


Donc tout ça dépend de tes exigences en termes de sécurité, une fois 
compris que la sécurité totale n'existe pas et qu'assez souvent 
l'augmentation de la sécurité se fait au détriment de la productivité ou 
du confort d'utilisation, mais que l'absence totale de sécurité est un 
risque avéré.
 Rajoute le fait que suivant ton humeur et ton état de forme, tes 
exigences ne sont pas forcément les mêmes...

:-)

Re: Debian and Android

[l0f4r0]

Hi,

I don't know for your exact error message but I can say personally that  I have 
no real issue anymore since I switched to Android File Transfer For Linux...

https://github.com/whoozle/android-file-transfer-linux

You might give it a try.

NB: I'm on Buster.
HTH
Best regards,
l0f4r0

Re: sharing a network connection from debian to non-debian

[john doe]

On 1/17/2021 8:25 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Sb, 16 ian 21, 10:28:43, Dan Hitt wrote:


I made sure that the 'Ethernet' tab had the mac addr of the right device
--- it's a usb/ethernet cable, and has a long name, so it would be hard to
confuse it with enp2s0 (the connection to the 'internet-modem').

In the 'IPv4 Settings' tab, the method i have selected is 'Shared to other
computers'.  There's a text area below, marked 'Address (optional)'.

In that optional area i put the ip address of my debian machine, with '24'
for the netmask.  The ip address for my debian machine, that i want to use
for this LAN, is consistent with what 'ip addr show' displays.  It's kind
of unclear what to write for a gateway --- should i put in the address of
my debian box, or the address of the internet modem (router)?  Anyhow, i
tried them both, and neither one worked.




As the server has already internet and working fine, you don't have to
do anything on the server.


I also tried just deleting the 'Address (optional)' section, since it says
it is optional.  But this also had no effect.

I also added an extra ip address to the usb/ethernet link on my debian
machine, using
sudo ip addr add 10.X.Y.Z/24  dev enx**
and this becomes instantly visible to the other system.   So i think the
other system is properly accessing my debian system.


Looks like it, indeed.



Note that this change is not permanent, thus won't be save while rebooting.


So, thanks for any clarification anybody has to offer on the proper usage
of nm-connection-editor.


As far as I recall (it's been a while) it was as easy as setting the
Shared... in nm-connection-editor. Network Manager should then take care
to enable forwarding in the kernel and run a DHCP/DNS caching server
(probably dnsmasq) on that interface.

How are the other boxes configured? They should either be configured
with DHCP or with static addresses in the same 10.*.*.* network as the
Debian box (mind the netmask!) and Debian's 10.*.*.* IP address as
gateway and DNS server.

It might help to show exactly what the network settings are for the
"internal" connection on Debian and on the other boxes.



In general, if you want to assign one static address per client, the
client would have to use one IP address from the IP subnet used on the
server (10...) in your case).
The gateway and the DNS address would be pointing to the ip of the server.

So in your case something like:
- Server: IP: 10.0.0.1, mask: 255.255.255.0 (CIDR: /24)
- Client1: IP: 10.0.0.2, mask: 255.255.255.0, GW: 10.0.0.1, DNS: 10.0.0.1
- Client2: IP: 10.0.0.3, mask: 255.255.255.0, GW: 10.0.0.1, DNS: 10.0.0.1

Regarding buying a new router, picking one on which you can change the
stock firmware to OpenWrt or alike give you the flexibility of having a
more tweakable router.
One advantage of Dd-Wrt/Tomato or alike is that it is way easier to
reset to factory default incase you screw up! :)

--
John Doe

Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k)

[tomas]

On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 08:40:53PM -0500, Celejar wrote:

[...]

> I think you're conflating two senses of wireless 'firmware' - the kind
> that runs on the wireless chipset itself (i.e., the stuff that Debian
> ships in its free and non-free 'firmware' packages), and the kind that
> runs on the system containing wireless hardware (e.g., WiFi OEM's stock
> firmware, OpenWrt, etc.).

Thanks for /that/ reminder. I totally forgot that, for a "box"
the whole thing (what we consider an operating system) also
runs as "firmware". It's "firmwares all the way down" [1].

> The article you link to was a scare about the latter, which never
> really materialized:

Exactly.

> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/fcc-forces-tp-link-to-support-open-source-firmware-on-routers/

And... to those who now say "but you can't bypass your local
regulations from the OEM stock firmware (what we tend to call
the operating system)". Yes, you can. Just tell  that firmware
downstairs that you are in a different jurisdiction [1], where
you are allowed to spew out a couple of watts more, or use that
nice channel.

Cheers

[1] Technically, this is called "regulatory domain" and search
   engines readily spew out lots of hits for that, e.g.
   https://wifibond.com/2016/10/26/regulatory-domain-and-compliance/
   It's one of those curious cases where legal stakes, sovereignity
   questions, user rights and corporate interests & greed wedge in
   a very strange way.

 - t


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Re: Debian and Android

[didier gaumet]

It is probably related to your Android settings and independant of your 
PC OS (Debian):


https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/make-usb-connection-your-android-phone-default-file-transfer-mode-0234540/

Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k)

[didier gaumet]

Le 16/01/2021 à 22:55, Stefan Monnier a écrit :
[...]

I often enable `non-free` because I need it for one package or another
(GFDL docs for example), but I strongly dislike the fact that as soon as
it's enabled, all its packages become "silently" installable.

[...]

On this particular point, perhaps is it possible to forbid this behavior 
by setting an apt preference with the "component" keyword?

 https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences