Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 18:14 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > I can't find the reply about Telegram being a snap and LXDE.. It > totally went poof! > > But how do I get Telegram to show up in the start menu? To get my programs to appear in the desktop menu I create a 'desktop' file in ~/.local/share/applications. The Arch Wiki site is a good place for info desktop files: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/desktop_entries Using Google I found an answer to your specific question about Telegram: https://askubuntu.com/questions/650180/how-to-get-telegram-to-show-up-in-dash -- Tixy
Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
On Sun, 2022-01-16 at 06:02 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 16/1/22 5:08 am, Tixy wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 14:45 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > > > Are there any LXDE users STILL out there? > > > > Yes, it's the desktop environment I use on both my Debian Bullseye > > computers. I moved to LXDE when Gnome went to version 3. I tried > > XFCE > > at that time but didn't like it, so went with LXDE. > > > > Had you tried MATE? I haven't. LXDE suits my purpose so have no reason to try other desktops. But should LXDE removed from Debian, or get some annoying bugs, I'll add MATE to the list to try. -- Tixy
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Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 06:55:45 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > Since you have entered into the realm of grammar and grammatical > corrections... > > I believe that the "do" that you originally used, is as correct as > the "DID" that you (incorrectly) corrected - the poster will still > mean what the person originally meant, so both present and past tense > could be said to be correct (although, the use of the uppercase > characters, in the "DID" that you did post, is questionable). > > Of more concern, and, something for you to consider, in considering > your grammar, is the "should of been" in your "corrective" post, > which instead, should have been "should have been"... > > :) > CRIKEY! lol sorry I couldn't resist after seeing your signature! :) Sometimes that happens to the best of us, we read something and we're like " That doesn't sound right to me, let me change it". You then correct what you said and read it out loud before hitting send and your mind is like " That sounds a lot better" when its ACTUALLY WRONG! :( haha! Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com Debian 11 Gnome 3
Re: Default sound level always zero for externally plugged usb sound system
Needing sound as much as I do and having used usb sound systems, I'll add one more suggested precaution to this info. Sometimes alsa makes .lock files in /var/lock and these will block alsactl from working. So check for those and delete as necessary then run alsactl store and alsa will make those lock files for you again but with your desired settings in place. On Sat, 15 Jan 2022, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 06:51:28PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 15 ian 22, 10:30:50, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > Try `alsactl store` > > > > > > Didn't know that one, thanks. Do you happen to know if they deliver to > > > Canada? > > > > > > > (might need root). > > > > > > Hmm... I only have dollars and francs :-( > > > > As far as I know it takes only altairian dollars, but you might get away > > with reciting some Vogon poetry instead (if you're not thrown out > > first). > > But, but. > > If you're sudo [1] anyway, it might even take crypto. Or NFT. > > Cheers > > [1] https://xkcd.com/149/ > >
Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
I can't find the reply about Telegram being a snap and LXDE.. It totally went poof! But how do I get Telegram to show up in the start menu? Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com Debian 11 Gnome 3
Re: Problème de lecture vidéo (trop rapide)
Le 15/01/2022 à 22:27, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : Bonjour à tous, J'utilise une debian/stable comme lecteur multimédia. Cette machine fonctionnait très bien avec oldstable mais je l'ai mise à jour récemment vers stable. Depuis, les vidéos sont lues trop vite. Toutes les vidéos, quelle que soit la source et le logiciel utilisé. Un replay dans firefox tourne à peu près deux fois trop vite. Idem dans mplayer. Dans vlc, c'est un peu différent : vlc essaye de synchroniser le nombre d'images par seconde et le son ne suit pas (il est saccadé). En d'autres termes, vlc se débrouille pour synchroniser l'image sur le temps réel, mais le son est produit par à-coups. La machine possède 8Go de mémoire (pas de swap) et le cpu est un i5/4xxx (2900 MHz), ce qui est normalement bien assez puissant pour lire des vidéos, même avec le GPU intégré. La distribution est une stable à jour (noyau 5.10). J'avoue ne pas savoir où chercher, le problème ne semble pas provenir d'un logiciel en particulier, mais du système. Il doit peut être te rester des scories de l'ancien système ? Est-ce que tu peux booter la machine sur un live cd récent et lire les vidéos ? Pour voir si ça vient de la machine ou de la mise à jour ? -- == | FRÉDÉRIC MASSOT | | http://www.juliana-multimedia.com | | mailto:frede...@juliana-multimedia.com | | +33.(0)2.97.54.77.94 +33.(0)6.67.19.95.69 | ===Debian=GNU/Linux===
Re: Fw: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
On 16/1/22 6:41 am, c. marlow wrote: Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:17:21 -0600 From: "c. marlow" To: "c. marlow" Subject: Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? Oops.. I accidentally replied this back to myself LOL! On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:15:46 -0600 "c. marlow" wrote: Oops: Or do you mean that as in, LXDE has matured enough to where it doesn't need new features? Should of been: Or DID* you mean that as in, LXDE has matured enough to where it doesn't need new features? Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com Debian 11 Gnome 3 Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com Debian 11 Gnome 3 Since you have entered into the realm of grammar and grammatical corrections... I believe that the "do" that you originally used, is as correct as the "DID" that you (incorrectly) corrected - the poster will still mean what the person originally meant, so both present and past tense could be said to be correct (although, the use of the uppercase characters, in the "DID" that you did post, is questionable). Of more concern, and, something for you to consider, in considering your grammar, is the "should of been" in your "corrective" post, which instead, should have been "should have been"... :) -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Fw: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:17:21 -0600 From: "c. marlow" To: "c. marlow" Subject: Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? Oops.. I accidentally replied this back to myself LOL! On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:15:46 -0600 "c. marlow" wrote: Oops: Or do you mean that as in, LXDE has matured enough to where it doesn't > need new features? Should of been: Or DID* you mean that as in, LXDE has matured enough to where it doesn't need new features? Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com Debian 11 Gnome 3 Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com Debian 11 Gnome 3
Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 06:02:58 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 16/1/22 5:08 am, Tixy wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 14:45 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > >> Are there any LXDE users STILL out there? > > > > Yes, it's the desktop environment I use on both my Debian Bullseye > > computers. I moved to LXDE when Gnome went to version 3. I tried > > XFCE at that time but didn't like it, so went with LXDE. > > > > Had you tried MATE? > > I have been using MATE since the gnomes abandoned the users and > imposed gnome3. > > I have MATE configured so that the interface is like (I believe) > gnome 2 or MS Win95 or fvwm (as it was back in about 1993). > Yes, MATE is a favorite of mine :) Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com Debian 11 Gnome 3
Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
On 16/1/22 5:08 am, Tixy wrote: On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 14:45 -0600, c. marlow wrote: Are there any LXDE users STILL out there? Yes, it's the desktop environment I use on both my Debian Bullseye computers. I moved to LXDE when Gnome went to version 3. I tried XFCE at that time but didn't like it, so went with LXDE. Had you tried MATE? I have been using MATE since the gnomes abandoned the users and imposed gnome3. I have MATE configured so that the interface is like (I believe) gnome 2 or MS Win95 or fvwm (as it was back in about 1993). -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:55:11 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > > Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new > > features > > That *is* a feature. Huh? Or do you mean that as in, LXDE has matured enough to where it doesn't need new features? Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com Debian 11 Gnome 3
Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 21:08:05 + Tixy wrote: > On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 14:45 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > > Are there any LXDE users STILL out there? > > Yes, it's the desktop environment I use on both my Debian Bullseye > computers. I moved to LXDE when Gnome went to version 3. I tried XFCE > at that time but didn't like it, so went with LXDE. > WOW! I haven't used LXDE much today. I am currently logged into Gnome right now due to that's where all of my nextcloud files are.. I am going to have to download them on the LXDE account. Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com Debian 11 Gnome 3
Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:45:04 -0600 "c. marlow" wrote: > Are there any LXDE users STILL out there? > > Today, I have been having this discussion on Debian's Reddit about > LXDE and it's future. > > Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new > features, I just learned today that LXDE just got a update for > LXterminal just a month or so ago. So LXDE is still getting small bug > fixes from time to time. > > I have LXDE installed on a separate user... Meaning I created a new > account and then installed LXDE from that account. So my CHRIS account > is strictly used with GNOME and the LXDE account is strictly used for > LXDE. > > I guess that its good to have SOMETHING installed as a backup just in > case Gnome takes a poop. > I used to use it, as it was one of the "slimest" desktops and I don't want a lot of graphical glitz. Then I found and switched to i3, and now I use LXDE as a backup, in case i3 takes a dump or something. There are probably a lot more packages like this out there. I use MOC for playing music, and I don't think it's been updated (upstream) in years. Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com http://quillandmouse.com
Re: SD card, exfat, file mtime wrong
On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 10:32:08AM +0100, Reiner wrote: > the timestamp problematic is still not solved in the upstream linux kernel. > > As a workaround you could use the exfat-fuse implementation, but it must be > a newer version then the latest stable in debian. > > There is no newer stable release in upstream either. Must be build from git! Hi, I'm a bit late but I took this thread as motivation to upload a snapshot of the exfat fuse driver to experimental. The package should also build on bullseye if that is a target platform for you. I still plan to drop the package asap from the Debian archive, because I believe the in kernel driver is the way to move on, but for now there might be a niche case for the fuse driver. If you can give it a try please let me know if it works for you. Sven
Problème de lecture vidéo (trop rapide)
Bonjour à tous, J'utilise une debian/stable comme lecteur multimédia. Cette machine fonctionnait très bien avec oldstable mais je l'ai mise à jour récemment vers stable. Depuis, les vidéos sont lues trop vite. Toutes les vidéos, quelle que soit la source et le logiciel utilisé. Un replay dans firefox tourne à peu près deux fois trop vite. Idem dans mplayer. Dans vlc, c'est un peu différent : vlc essaye de synchroniser le nombre d'images par seconde et le son ne suit pas (il est saccadé). En d'autres termes, vlc se débrouille pour synchroniser l'image sur le temps réel, mais le son est produit par à-coups. La machine possède 8Go de mémoire (pas de swap) et le cpu est un i5/4xxx (2900 MHz), ce qui est normalement bien assez puissant pour lire des vidéos, même avec le GPU intégré. La distribution est une stable à jour (noyau 5.10). J'avoue ne pas savoir où chercher, le problème ne semble pas provenir d'un logiciel en particulier, mais du système. Je prends donc toute idée ;-) Merci par avance, JKB
Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release
On 15/01/2022 16:50, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 15 ian 22, 13:48:39, piorunz wrote: And lastly, Debian archive nowhere says and/or guarantees that files will be kept there forever. "forever" is a very, very, very long time ;) Who can guarantee something like this, and if anyone would, why would you believe them? Kind regards, Andrei Of course, it's just a play of words. That being said, we all know older releases aren't supported in any way, and it's just Debian's courtesy that files are kept online and available. -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄
Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 14:45 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > Are there any LXDE users STILL out there? Yes, it's the desktop environment I use on both my Debian Bullseye computers. I moved to LXDE when Gnome went to version 3. I tried XFCE at that time but didn't like it, so went with LXDE. -- Tixy
Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
c. marlow writes: > Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new > features That *is* a feature. I have it on my laptop, which I use a few times a year. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA
Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
Are there any LXDE users STILL out there? Today, I have been having this discussion on Debian's Reddit about LXDE and it's future. Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new features, I just learned today that LXDE just got a update for LXterminal just a month or so ago. So LXDE is still getting small bug fixes from time to time. I have LXDE installed on a separate user... Meaning I created a new account and then installed LXDE from that account. So my CHRIS account is strictly used with GNOME and the LXDE account is strictly used for LXDE. I guess that its good to have SOMETHING installed as a backup just in case Gnome takes a poop. Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com Debian 11 Gnome 3
Re: Default sound level always zero for externally plugged usb sound system
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 06:51:28PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 15 ian 22, 10:30:50, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Try `alsactl store` > > > > Didn't know that one, thanks. Do you happen to know if they deliver to > > Canada? > > > > > (might need root). > > > > Hmm... I only have dollars and francs :-( > > As far as I know it takes only altairian dollars, but you might get away > with reciting some Vogon poetry instead (if you're not thrown out > first). But, but. If you're sudo [1] anyway, it might even take crypto. Or NFT. Cheers [1] https://xkcd.com/149/ -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: How do I change disk ?
On Ma, 11 ian 22, 17:22:08, Pierre Couderc wrote: > Thank you. I am surprised; update-grub is enough to install grub correctly > on all drives...?? No, 'update-grub' is only used to update /boot/grub/grub.cfg. > > - install grub on the new harddrive (grub --install /dev/sdb or > > update-grub might do it) You will need 'grub-install /dev/sdb' or something like that, though you might need to run 'update-grub' afterwards. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Bullseye default swap partition size?
On Du, 09 ian 22, 08:58:35, John Conover wrote: > Andrew M.A. Cater writes: > > On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 08:54:43AM -0800, John Conover wrote: > > > > > > I just installed Bullseye, using default "use entire disk" as the HD > > > configuration from the Graphical Install option on a Live USB SD. > > > > > > The swap partition size installed on the HD is 1 GB. > > > > > > Buster, etc., used to be about the size of memory, (8 GB in my case,) > > > for the swap partition size. > > > > > > > Changed with Bullesye as the default. Rarely, if ever,will a system with > > a significant amount of memory hit swap so 2x memory is probably overkill > > Hibernation on a laptop is the only thing that might be affected, I think, > > and even then,m that's generally to a file rather than generic swap. > > What I was concerned about is the caching pushing the machine into > memory overflow. Is the caching LRU gets replaced? What about mmap(2) > used by many encryption/signature programs for file access pushing the > the machine into memory overflow when cached, etc.? I'd reword Andy's "a system with a significant amount of memory" to something like "unless the system is seriously RAM constrained". $ free -m totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 39381481 984 27714722150 Swap: 2047 02047 $ /sbin/swapon -s FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority /dev/zram0 partition 524284 0 100 /dev/zram1 partition 524284 0 100 /dev/zram2 partition 524284 0 100 /dev/zram3 partition 524284 0 100 This is an ARM64 laptop running LXDE with two instances of xfce4-terminal each with its own tmux (one of them running two instances of neomutt), plus Firefox with lots of tabs (admittedly most of them inactive -- 20 or so active tabs is the usability limit) everything running from a 32GB USB stick. The electricity consumption is probably minimal, so I never bothered with hibernating, I only let lightdm turn of the screen when it's not in use. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Defaulting sound output to HDMI port
On Vi, 07 ian 22, 11:43:34, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I have a computer in the living room which is hooked up to our TV > via an HDMI cable. I use it to play MP3s, videos, and games. > Our TV is hooked to our stereo system to get good-quality sound. > However, audio isn't passing through the HDMI connection from the > computer; to get sound I've run a separate cable from the computer's > headphone jack to an auxiliary input on the stereo system, and I have > to switch the stereo to this input to get sound. It's not the end of > the world, but it would be nice to send the audio via HDMI so I can > just switch the TV's input and leave the stereo set to the TV. > > I'm running Buster with xfce. Here's some system information: > > cjg@dragon:~$ uname -a > Linux dragon 4.19.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.67-2+deb10u1 (2019-09-20) > x86_64 GNU/Linux > cjg@dragon:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards > 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel > HDA Intel at 0xe532 irq 27 > 1 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia > HDA NVidia at 0xe500 irq 17 > 2 [IVTV1 ]: CX2341[56] - IVTV-1 > CX2341[56] #1 WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2) TV/FM > Radio/Line-In Capture > 3 [IVTV0 ]: CX2341[56] - IVTV-0 > CX2341[56] #0 WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1) TV/FM > Radio/Line-In Capture > cjg@dragon:~$ aplay -l > List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices > card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC9271D Analog [STAC9271D Analog] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: STAC9271D Digital [STAC9271D Digital] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > After searching the web and mpv's man page, I found that the following > command would play sound through the computer's HDMI port: > > cjg@dragon:~$ mpv --audio-device=alsa/hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0 foo.mp3 > > Obviously there's nothing wrong with my hardware. Is there any > setting that will make audio output default to the HDMI port? From memory, there are actually several ways to do this. My preferred method is via kernel module options. E.g. for a system where I had the opposite problem (sound would default to HDMI instead of the on-board sound, both handled by the snd-hda-intel module) I have this: $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel-index.conf # change order of devices options snd-hda-intel index=1,0 (a rebuild of the initramfs and a reboot is required as far as I recall) There are various other values possible, including negative (e.g. if a specific device should always have lower priority). The same should be possible by (re-)defining the 'default' output in ALSA, usually with some /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc magic (a quick search points to the same entries you already tried), though I'm not sure how that will interact with PulseAudio and/or various applications using ALSA directly. Hope this helps, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Problème de permissions dans Debian ?
ici Bullseye+Gnome, ça marche $ sudo apt install okular me propose d'installe un tas de paquets (grrr, après va falloir que je nettoie), je valide j'exécute Okular sous Gnome (Classic (donc Xorg au lieu de Wayland)), je vais dans "configuration", "configurer les raccourcis clavier", "gérer les schémas", "nouveau" (modèle), je crée un modèle "Perso", dans le modèle "Perso" je prends la ligne "à propos de Okular", je crée un raccourci ALTGR+a, je clique sur "plus d'actions" puis "enregistrer les racourcis dans le modèle", je ferme la fenêtre de config, je teste le raccourci ALTGR+a (æ)(j'ai choisi une combinaison de touches pas déjà affectée) qui m'affiche un joli cartouche "à propos de Okular". Je ferme Okular, je rouvre Okular et je teste le raccourci. Je recommance plusieurs fois: ça marche. Les schémas de raccourcis claviers d'Okular sont enregistrés dans ~/.local/share/okular/shortcuts didier@hp-notebook14:~$ ls -al ~/.local/share/okular/shortcuts total 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 didier didier 4096 15 janv. 18:36 . drwxr-xr-x 3 didier didier 4096 15 janv. 18:33 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 didier didier 3464 15 janv. 18:36 Default -rw-r--r-- 1 didier didier 132 15 janv. 18:53 Perso la seule chose bizarre chez moi c'est que le raccourci que j'ai créé devrait juste figurer dans le schéma "Perso" et pas dans le schéma "Default", mais figure dans les deux... didier@hp-notebook14:~$ cat ~/.local/share/okular/shortcuts/Default [...] didier@hp-notebook14:~$ cat ~/.local/share/okular/shortcuts/Perso => les permissions sont bonnes sur le répertoires des schémas? que donne un $ ls -al ~/.local/share/okular/shortcuts ?
Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...
On Vi, 07 ian 22, 20:50:20, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > What you do on your host machine doesn't affect what goes on inside the > virtual system (machine inside virtual box). In case this wasn't obvious. I'd bet that e.g. upgrading the virtualization software can (and probably often does) affect the guest system. BIOS/UEFI settings/upgrades and kernel upgrades might have an effect as well for virtualization supported by hardware. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Default sound level always zero for externally plugged usb sound system
On Sb, 15 ian 22, 10:30:50, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Try `alsactl store` > > Didn't know that one, thanks. Do you happen to know if they deliver to > Canada? > > > (might need root). > > Hmm... I only have dollars and francs :-( As far as I know it takes only altairian dollars, but you might get away with reciting some Vogon poetry instead (if you're not thrown out first). Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: python-apt create_pin question
On Vi, 14 ian 22, 08:09:30, Antonio Russo wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm trying to use apt_pkg to get a "best candidate" for a package, but with
> slightly different constraints than I have set up in /etc/apt/preferences.d.
>
> I am trying to use Policy.create_pin to do so, but cannot seem to get it
> working:
>
> import apt_pkg
>
> apt_pkg.init()
> cache = apt_pkg.Cache(progress=None)
> policy = apt_pkg.Policy(cache)
> #policy.create_pin('origin', '', 'Debian', -1)
> policy.create_pin('origin', 'apt', 'Debian', -1)
> policy.init_defaults()
>
> print([ (v, policy.get_priority(v)) for v in cache['apt'].version_list ])
>
>
> All calls to get_priority return 500---not -1, as I am trying to get here.
>
> I must be doing something silly. I'd appreciate any help.
If you don't get an answer in a few more days you should probably try
asking on https://lists.debian.org/deity instead.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Why do experimental packages (e.g. clang-13) get in unstable?
On Vi, 14 ian 22, 15:37:21, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:56:19AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > So clang-13 1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4 testing is in testing/unstable, > > but the changelog says: > > > > llvm-toolchain-13 (1:13.0.1~+rc1-1~exp4) experimental; urgency=medium > > Because despite what the changelog or the version string say, the > maintainer uploaded that version to unstable: > > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1293514/accepted-llvm-toolchain-13-11301rc1-1exp4-source-into-unstable/ In this particular case yes, though as far as I know it's possible that a Maintainer re-uploads the same package to unstable after it's been uploaded to experimental first. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
flock gives me this answer
main.go:203: gathering packages: bufio.Scanner: token too long Hi, Is this a go or a flock problem? Thanks!
Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release
On Sb, 15 ian 22, 13:48:39, piorunz wrote: > > And lastly, Debian archive nowhere says and/or guarantees that files > will be kept there forever. "forever" is a very, very, very long time ;) Who can guarantee something like this, and if anyone would, why would you believe them? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: anybody uses eero 6 WiFi router?
On Mi, 12 ian 22, 21:56:47, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: > Hi folks, > > Shopping for a new ISP came across company that uses exclusively eero 6 > router. Anyone to share your experience/opinion about the thing? > > 2 concerns of mine are: > - cloud based private network management > - Amazon owned Is that just a router or a modem / media converter / whatever[1]? A router should be optional and in most cases it's probably best to avoid it completely and use something with OpenWrt instead. In case it's a modem or media converter check if it is possible *and* allowed to put it in bridge mode, then use your own router connected to it. If bridge mode is not possible (for whatever reason) it's still possible to use your own router, but for some specific use cases (e.g. port forwarding) you will be stuck with whatever the modem's firmware supports. [1] regardless if including a wireless AP or not Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Recommendation for a new Debian laptop
On 2022-01-15 17:13, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 12 ian 22, 08:54:50, john doe wrote: Debians, i've been using a laptop for a fiew years now and before this laptop dies on me I would like to buy a new laptop. I'm thinking about two options: - Buying something of the shelph and installing Debian on it - Buying a pine64 or alike - Any other alternative? The only requirement is to have virtualisation available. Basically, I'm looking for some feedback to have a laptop with Debian on it. Any suggestion is appreciated. Since you didn't mention any kind of budget constraints, you might want to consider Thinkpads (previously IBM, now Lenovo). The build quality is generally high (especially for the more expensive series, like T) and you get detailed manuals on how to take it apart for upgrades or repairs. Compatibility with Linux is also generally very good and there are even some models that come with Linux pre-installed. Many Linux developers like them as well (not least because of the very good keyboards) which only helps with compatibility. If price is a concern, even second-hand / refurbished Thinkpads usually provide good value for the money. Hope this helps, Andrei Just be aware that current Thinkpad compatibility isn't what it was in the past. I am a long-time Thinkpad user (I *think* I started with the T40, not sure anymore) and with the latest models I have had some issues (mostly with external displays). Some were solvable with effort, some not. I do not include the well-known problems with fingerprint readers in this. Those I knew about up front, so that was my own choice. Grx HdV
Re: OT: Recommendation for a new Debian laptop
On Saturday 15 January 2022 11:13:49 am Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 12 ian 22, 08:54:50, john doe wrote: > > Debians, > > > > i've been using a laptop for a fiew years now and before this laptop > > dies on me I would like to buy a new laptop. > > > > I'm thinking about two options: > > - Buying something of the shelph and installing Debian on it > > - Buying a pine64 or alike > > - Any other alternative? > > > > The only requirement is to have virtualisation available. > > > > Basically, I'm looking for some feedback to have a laptop with Debian on it. > > > > Any suggestion is appreciated. > > Since you didn't mention any kind of budget constraints, you might want > to consider Thinkpads (previously IBM, now Lenovo). > > The build quality is generally high (especially for the more expensive > series, like T) and you get detailed manuals on how to take it apart for > upgrades or repairs. > > Compatibility with Linux is also generally very good and there are even > some models that come with Linux pre-installed. > > Many Linux developers like them as well (not least because of the very > good keyboards) which only helps with compatibility. > > If price is a concern, even second-hand / refurbished Thinkpads usually > provide good value for the money. > > > Hope this helps, > Andrei I'll second this. I had a "refurbished" Thinkpad that I used rather extensively for _six years_ before something went wrong with it and gave me a "system board error". No issues with running linux on it at all, though I was running Slackware at the time. -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin
Re: OT: Recommendation for a new Debian laptop
On Mi, 12 ian 22, 08:54:50, john doe wrote: > Debians, > > i've been using a laptop for a fiew years now and before this laptop > dies on me I would like to buy a new laptop. > > I'm thinking about two options: > - Buying something of the shelph and installing Debian on it > - Buying a pine64 or alike > - Any other alternative? > > The only requirement is to have virtualisation available. > > Basically, I'm looking for some feedback to have a laptop with Debian on it. > > Any suggestion is appreciated. Since you didn't mention any kind of budget constraints, you might want to consider Thinkpads (previously IBM, now Lenovo). The build quality is generally high (especially for the more expensive series, like T) and you get detailed manuals on how to take it apart for upgrades or repairs. Compatibility with Linux is also generally very good and there are even some models that come with Linux pre-installed. Many Linux developers like them as well (not least because of the very good keyboards) which only helps with compatibility. If price is a concern, even second-hand / refurbished Thinkpads usually provide good value for the money. Hope this helps, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: freeing up some space
On Ma, 11 ian 22, 16:32:20, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Tuesday 11 January 2022 02:25:47 pm Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > On 1/11/22, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives > > > which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many > > > versions of the same package, some of them many years old, going all the > > > way back to 2013. I guess I've been running debian a little longer than > > > I'd > > > thought... > > > > > > Is it okay to just delete older versions of these files? Or should I be > > > doing something using one of the package management tools? > > Apparently the info about what's in this directory is also stored in > some database somewhere, so just going in there and deleting a bunch > of stuff will probably break something... [citation needed] > Somebody (maybe more than one somebody) suggested a "clean" option, > but apparently that will get rid of *ALL* of those files. I'd kinda > prefer to keep the most recent of any of them that are still being > used. In perusing the docs for aptitude, I see that there's an > option in there to "clean obsolete files", which sounds like it'll do > just that. I don't see such an option in apt-get, or elsewhere (so > far). The manpage for apt-get just doesn't refere to them as "obsolete" but "largely useless"[1]. Regarding aptitude, you might want to take note of the difference between "obsolete files" and "obsolete packages". Both are interesting for your needs, especially after a dist/full-upgrade. [1] just because a package can't be downloaded anymore from any /configured/ repository doesn't actually mean it's useless or obsolete. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Problème de permissions dans Debian ?
Bonjour, Troisièmement, ton message d'erreur Okular dit que /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so n'est pas accessible, donc que donne $ sudo ls -al /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so Les permissions sont bien celles attendues, j'ai oublié de le dire: ~> ls -al /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 104664 Jul 15 2021 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so tu peux éventuellement chercher si tu as des packages à demi-configurés et obsolètes ou locaux par $ sudo aptitude search '~c' et $ sudo aptitude search '~o' Voici les résultats: ~> sudo apt search '~c' Sorting... Done Full Text Search... Done libtext-brew-perl/stable 0.02-1.1 all perl implementation of Brew edit distance ~> sudo apt search '~o' Sorting... Done Full Text Search... Done Ça fait maigre. si il y en a, ce sont potentiellement eux qui empêchent une transition complète de Buster à Bullseye A-t-on une raison de penser que le problème provient de la transition ? J'ai constaté le problème sur deux machines sous Debian 11, une qui avait été mise à jour, l'autre installée à neuf (et depuis repassée en Debian 10 pour une raison sans rapport avec Okular). Sébastien.
Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release
Le samedi 15 janvier 2022 à 13:48 +, piorunz a écrit : [...] > Also, in the archive you have only Debian releases from 3 onwards. > Older releases are not available. [...] True, there are no ISOs to be downloaded, because at the time of release, floppy drives still were more ubiquitous than optical drives, but I think all is there to install 0.93R6 http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/buzz/main/disks-i386/1996_6_16/install.txt
Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 01:48:39PM +, piorunz wrote: > On 15/01/2022 13:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 01:28:16PM +, piorunz wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > But IMHO, burden of keeping all archaeological versions of Debian > > > shouldn't be on Debian Project. There are many volunteers with server > > > storage and bandwidth, they could keep it online, as torrents, etc. > > > > I don't understand: are you arguing for Debian to close its archive [1]? > > > > Because Debian /is/ providing access to its historical releases. Do you > > think it should not? > > > > Cheers > > > > [1] http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/ > > I didn't say that Debian should close the archive. But maybe people > should help with seeding ISO files. I entered random release on archive > page, and I can see that torrents are not available. I don't know why, > that would help reduce costs to Debian. Unless Archive is already hosted > by contributor/volunteer company? That would be great. > > Also, in the archive you have only Debian releases from 3 onwards. Older > releases are not available. > > And lastly, Debian archive nowhere says and/or guarantees that files > will be kept there forever. > > -- > With kindest regards, Piotr. > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ > ⠈⠳⣄ > Somewhere around there exist CD releases for 1.2 and 1.3 but they're on physical media and no-one has uploaded them yet .. :( There's also the problem that the oldest media may now be unstable and there may not be that many copies around. Debian 1.3, for example is one CD of source, one of i386 binaries - I think. Debian 1.2 was similar but smaller in numbers of packages. I've had all of these at one point or another but passed physical copies to someone else - I can ask if they can upload them :) All the very best, as ever, Andy Cater
Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release
On 15/01/2022 13:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 01:28:16PM +, piorunz wrote: [...] But IMHO, burden of keeping all archaeological versions of Debian shouldn't be on Debian Project. There are many volunteers with server storage and bandwidth, they could keep it online, as torrents, etc. I don't understand: are you arguing for Debian to close its archive [1]? Because Debian /is/ providing access to its historical releases. Do you think it should not? Cheers [1] http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/ I didn't say that Debian should close the archive. But maybe people should help with seeding ISO files. I entered random release on archive page, and I can see that torrents are not available. I don't know why, that would help reduce costs to Debian. Unless Archive is already hosted by contributor/volunteer company? That would be great. Also, in the archive you have only Debian releases from 3 onwards. Older releases are not available. And lastly, Debian archive nowhere says and/or guarantees that files will be kept there forever. -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄
Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 01:28:16PM +, piorunz wrote: [...] > But IMHO, burden of keeping all archaeological versions of Debian > shouldn't be on Debian Project. There are many volunteers with server > storage and bandwidth, they could keep it online, as torrents, etc. I don't understand: are you arguing for Debian to close its archive [1]? Because Debian /is/ providing access to its historical releases. Do you think it should not? Cheers [1] http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/ -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Instalacja Debian8 błąd w Release
On 15/01/2022 06:49, Anders Andersson wrote: I would be more surprised if the packages were *not* available somewhere, and I hope they are "guaranteed" the same way as the new packages (that is, no guarantee other than the benevolence of the community members). These things are very important for current and future "software archeology" and for preserving the history and evolution of computing. Heck, I even had to install Debian Sarge a few years ago to try to figure out how a very old piece of software was supposed to be built. It was neat to have the whole ecosystem as a 2005 developer expected and I'm very happy that the old versions were still downloadable! Generally speaking, I agree. Software archaeology is cool and nice thing to have. People still use DOS, and install Windows 95. With Linux not so much, but I understand that even you found personal use for old Linux OS. Sarge actually finished in 2008, that's not that long ago. But IMHO, burden of keeping all archaeological versions of Debian shouldn't be on Debian Project. There are many volunteers with server storage and bandwidth, they could keep it online, as torrents, etc. -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄
Re: Problème de permissions dans Debian ?
Le samedi 15 janvier 2022 à 12:17 +0100, Seb a écrit : > > Bonjour ! > > > Il me semble avoir repéré un problème de permissions. > > Le logiciel dont le comportement me conduit à penser cela est Okular, > mais > le fond du problème n'est peut-être pas lié à ce logiciel. > > En Debian oldstable, je n'avais aucun problème avec Okular. > > En Debian stable, quand je tente de créer un nouveau raccourci > clavier mon > écran virtuel est quasiment gelé. Je ne peux rien faire hormis > cliquer sur > l'icône d'un autre écran virtuel (depuis lequel je peux 'kill'er > Okular). > > En espérant que ce problème serait résolu avec une version ultérieure > d'Okular, j'ai installé sa version testing (apt-get -t testing). Je > rencontre le même problème d'écran virtuel qui gèle, et en plus > Okular ne > parvient plus à enregistrer le fichier PDF sous un autre nom, > j'obtiens le > message suivant: > > File could not be saved in 'file:///raid/home/seb/temp/a.pdf'. Error: > 'Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Error loading > '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so'.'. Try to > save it > to another location > > apt-file m'apprend que kf5/kio/file.so n'existe que dans le package > kio, > qui est bien installé. > > Le point intéressant, c'est que ces deux problèmes disparaissent si > je > lance Okular en sudo. Je peux ajouter un raccourci clavier (et il > fonctionne), enregistrer un fichier PDF sous un autre nom: plus aucun > problème apparent. > > Sauf que le problème sous-jacent est toujours là, et qu'il pourrait > bien > se manifester plus tard d'une autre manière. > > Ma Debian est une stable stock, seul Okular et ses dépendances sont > (maintenant) en testing. > > Le même problème existe-t-il chez quelqu'un d'autre ? > Je précise que mon WM n'est pas KDE mais fvwm. > > J'avais envoyé un report de bug sur Okular en novembre, mais je n'ai > pas > eu de réponse. > > Je joins ci-dessous les informations que 'reportbug' insérerait > (aujourd'hui) pour un nouveau rapport de bug (que je n'ai pas fait). > > > Merci d'avance pour votre aide ! > Sébastien. > > = > == > > -- System Information: > Debian Release: 11.1 > APT prefers stable-updates > APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable') > Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) > > Kernel: Linux 5.10.0-9-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads) > Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, > TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE > Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) (ignored: > LC_ALL set to en_US.iso88591), LANGUAGE=C > Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash > Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) > LSM: AppArmor: enabled > > Versions of packages okular depends on: > ii kinit 5.78.0-2 > ii kio 5.78.0-5 > ii libc6 2.33-1 > ii libfreetype6 2.10.4+dfsg-1 > ii libjpeg62-turbo 1:2.0.6-4 > ii libkf5activities5 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5archive5 5.88.0-1 > ii libkf5bookmarks5 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5codecs5 5.88.0-1 > ii libkf5completion5 5.78.0-3 > ii libkf5configcore5 5.88.0-1 > ii libkf5configgui5 5.88.0-1 > ii libkf5configwidgets5 5.88.0-1 > ii libkf5coreaddons5 5.88.0-1 > ii libkf5crash5 5.88.0-1 > ii libkf5i18n5 5.88.0-2 > ii libkf5itemviews5 5.88.0-1 > ii libkf5jobwidgets5 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5kexiv2-15.0.0 20.12.0-1 > ii libkf5kiocore5 5.78.0-5 > ii libkf5kiowidgets5 5.78.0-5 > ii libkf5parts5 5.78.0-3 > ii libkf5pty5 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5purpose-bin 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5purpose5 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5service-bin 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5service5 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5textwidgets5 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5wallet-bin 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5wallet5 5.78.0-2 > ii libkf5widgetsaddons5 5.88.0-2 > ii libkf5windowsystem5 5.88.0-1 > ii libkf5xmlgui5 5.88.0-1 > ii libokular5core9 4:21.08.3-1 > ii libphonon4qt5-4 4:4.11.1-4 > ii libpoppler-qt5-1 20.09.0-3.1 > ii libqmobipocket2 4:20.12.0-1 > ii libqt5core5a 5.15.2+dfsg-9 > ii libqt5dbus5 5.15.2+dfsg-9 > ii libqt5gui5 5.15.2+dfsg-9 > ii libqt5printsupport5 5.15.2+dfsg-9 > ii libqt5svg5 5.15.2-3 > ii libqt5texttospeech5 5.15.2-2 > ii libqt5widgets5 5.15.2+dfsg-9 > ii libqt5xml5 5.15.2+dfsg-9 > ii libspectre1 0.2.9-1 > ii libstdc++6 11.2.0-13 > ii phonon4qt5 4:4.11.1-4 > ii zlib1g 1:1.2.11.dfsg-2 > > Versions of packages okular recommends: > ii cups-bsd 2.3.3op2-3+deb11u1 > > Versions of packages okular suggests: > ii ghostscript 9.53.3~dfsg-7+deb11u1 > ii okular-extra-backends 4:21.08.3-1 > ii poppler-data 0.4.10-1 > ii texlive-binaries 2020.20200327.54578-7 > pn unrar >
Re: Replace line in file based on pattern
On Du, 02 ian 22, 21:22:33, Paul M. Foster wrote: > > I'm not interested in hacking a bunch of servers. Just one. The whole > purpose here is to restore a system to more or less its original > configuration when a reinstall must occur. A reinstall must occur when there > is a severe hardware failure, or when Debian (or any other operating system) > comes up with a major revision (in Debian's case, every couple of years). > The problem I've seen with just copying an old config file over the top of > the one installed by default is that in some cases, syntax changes or > options are added or deleted in the config files from one version to > another. Thus, my idea of "surgical" alteration of the config files. If I understand correctly you mean: 1. System is installed with package foo version 1.0 2. You customize configuration of package foo 3. At some point in the future a reinstall might be required and you want to restore the system to the state at point 2. If you are still on the same stable release a simple overwrite of the configuration should do it as, by definition, stable shouldn't introduce major changes (like syntax changes in the configuration file[1]). If you want to reinstall the system with a newer release of Debian you are probably better of just going through each and every changed configuration file with something like vimdiff[2]. There are at least two reasons to this: A. As you already noted above, configuration file syntax may change. Any automated method you can think of involves a risk of doing a change that will simply be wrong for the newer version. While examining the situation to tell whether it's safe to do automatically or not you might as well just do the change manually. Tools like vimdiff make it very easy to apply changes selectively. B. On (typically major) upgrades a package might consider your customizations and adapt accordingly, however installing a fresh new version might not. This is because both upstreams and Debian are doing their best to enable in-place upgrades whenever possible, even between major releases. Such mechanisms typically involve having the old configuration already in place, either during the upgrade (if done by package scripts) or at first start of the new software version (if done by the software itself). While it may work if you make sure you replace / edit / whatever the configuration before the first start of the software it can't possibly work if the changes are managed via package scripts (for hopefully obvious reasons). [1] exceptions to this rule might happen, e.g. if the change of configuration (syntax) is required to fix a security issue or in cases where fixing security issues is done by upgrading to newer major versions of the software (as for Firefox, Chrome, etc.). [2] going through the Release Notes and NEWS.Debian first is highly recommended, as these are the places where the need for manual changes are documented. Hope this helps, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why did Norbert Preining (having maintained KDE) left Debian?
Hello, On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 11:28:54AM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: > https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/01/future-of-my-packages-in-debian/ > > I wish that someone could publish some background information, neutral and > respectful and without harming anybody. If Norbert himself did not elaborate then how would it be possible to publish personal information about him in a "neutral and respectful" manner? Debian has disciplinary procedures like any community and the public are not automatically entitled to all of the details of those. I don't know why you assume you should be. Norbert has obviously been subject to some sort of disciplinary action and as a result says he is winding down his efforts within Debian. If he wanted the general public to know more about that then surely he would have said more. Perhaps you can ask him? Your wish can only be properly fulfilled by Norbert. Maybe you just want someone to collate already-public information about this? Having read Norbert's blogs before over the past few years, I feel sure that looking back through his prior posts regarding Debian would give you some idea as to where the points of contention have existed for him (unless he has deleted them; have not checked). Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
Problème de permissions dans Debian ?
Bonjour ! Il me semble avoir repéré un problème de permissions. Le logiciel dont le comportement me conduit à penser cela est Okular, mais le fond du problème n'est peut-être pas lié à ce logiciel. En Debian oldstable, je n'avais aucun problème avec Okular. En Debian stable, quand je tente de créer un nouveau raccourci clavier mon écran virtuel est quasiment gelé. Je ne peux rien faire hormis cliquer sur l'icône d'un autre écran virtuel (depuis lequel je peux 'kill'er Okular). En espérant que ce problème serait résolu avec une version ultérieure d'Okular, j'ai installé sa version testing (apt-get -t testing). Je rencontre le même problème d'écran virtuel qui gèle, et en plus Okular ne parvient plus à enregistrer le fichier PDF sous un autre nom, j'obtiens le message suivant: File could not be saved in 'file:///raid/home/seb/temp/a.pdf'. Error: 'Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Error loading '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so'.'. Try to save it to another location apt-file m'apprend que kf5/kio/file.so n'existe que dans le package kio, qui est bien installé. Le point intéressant, c'est que ces deux problèmes disparaissent si je lance Okular en sudo. Je peux ajouter un raccourci clavier (et il fonctionne), enregistrer un fichier PDF sous un autre nom: plus aucun problème apparent. Sauf que le problème sous-jacent est toujours là, et qu'il pourrait bien se manifester plus tard d'une autre manière. Ma Debian est une stable stock, seul Okular et ses dépendances sont (maintenant) en testing. Le même problème existe-t-il chez quelqu'un d'autre ? Je précise que mon WM n'est pas KDE mais fvwm. J'avais envoyé un report de bug sur Okular en novembre, mais je n'ai pas eu de réponse. Je joins ci-dessous les informations que 'reportbug' insérerait (aujourd'hui) pour un nouveau rapport de bug (que je n'ai pas fait). Merci d'avance pour votre aide ! Sébastien. === -- System Information: Debian Release: 11.1 APT prefers stable-updates APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 5.10.0-9-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads) Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_US.iso88591), LANGUAGE=C Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) LSM: AppArmor: enabled Versions of packages okular depends on: ii kinit 5.78.0-2 ii kio 5.78.0-5 ii libc6 2.33-1 ii libfreetype6 2.10.4+dfsg-1 ii libjpeg62-turbo 1:2.0.6-4 ii libkf5activities5 5.78.0-2 ii libkf5archive55.88.0-1 ii libkf5bookmarks5 5.78.0-2 ii libkf5codecs5 5.88.0-1 ii libkf5completion5 5.78.0-3 ii libkf5configcore5 5.88.0-1 ii libkf5configgui5 5.88.0-1 ii libkf5configwidgets5 5.88.0-1 ii libkf5coreaddons5 5.88.0-1 ii libkf5crash5 5.88.0-1 ii libkf5i18n5 5.88.0-2 ii libkf5itemviews5 5.88.0-1 ii libkf5jobwidgets5 5.78.0-2 ii libkf5kexiv2-15.0.0 20.12.0-1 ii libkf5kiocore55.78.0-5 ii libkf5kiowidgets5 5.78.0-5 ii libkf5parts5 5.78.0-3 ii libkf5pty55.78.0-2 ii libkf5purpose-bin 5.78.0-2 ii libkf5purpose55.78.0-2 ii libkf5service-bin 5.78.0-2 ii libkf5service55.78.0-2 ii libkf5textwidgets55.78.0-2 ii libkf5wallet-bin 5.78.0-2 ii libkf5wallet5 5.78.0-2 ii libkf5widgetsaddons5 5.88.0-2 ii libkf5windowsystem5 5.88.0-1 ii libkf5xmlgui5 5.88.0-1 ii libokular5core9 4:21.08.3-1 ii libphonon4qt5-4 4:4.11.1-4 ii libpoppler-qt5-1 20.09.0-3.1 ii libqmobipocket2 4:20.12.0-1 ii libqt5core5a 5.15.2+dfsg-9 ii libqt5dbus5 5.15.2+dfsg-9 ii libqt5gui55.15.2+dfsg-9 ii libqt5printsupport5 5.15.2+dfsg-9 ii libqt5svg55.15.2-3 ii libqt5texttospeech5 5.15.2-2 ii libqt5widgets55.15.2+dfsg-9 ii libqt5xml55.15.2+dfsg-9 ii libspectre1 0.2.9-1 ii libstdc++611.2.0-13 ii phonon4qt54:4.11.1-4 ii zlib1g1:1.2.11.dfsg-2 Versions of packages okular recommends: ii cups-bsd 2.3.3op2-3+deb11u1 Versions of packages okular suggests: ii ghostscript9.53.3~dfsg-7+deb11u1 ii okular-extra-backends 4:21.08.3-1 ii poppler-data 0.4.10-1 ii texlive-binaries 2020.20200327.54578-7 pn unrar
Re: Default sound level always zero for externally plugged usb sound system
On Jo, 30 dec 21, 19:48:41, Pankaj Jangid wrote: > > Is there a way to tell Debian to save the previous volume level of > externally plugged-in device? Try `alsactl store` (might need root). Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Why did Norbert Preining (having maintained KDE) left Debian?
Does somebody has information about what in the background has happened, which made Norbert leaving the team? Considering that Debian is a community project and myself feeling to be part of the community, although not actively involved in its maintenance and development, I am wondering what is going on in the community after his post from yesterday sounds like there are things happening in the community, which not all the community might be aware of. In his blog he wrote "After having been (again) demoted [...] based on flimsy arguments, I have been forced to rethink the level of contribution I want to do for Debian." https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/01/future-of-my-packages-in-debian/ I wish that someone could publish some background information, neutral and respectful and without harming anybody. I am absolutely not interested to start here in public a war of recriminations. I simply feel that it would be worth for the health of the community to get a more transparent view on what is going on in the community. Do you have some background information which you could share in PLEASE neutral, well thought text, serving the community and its transparency instead of rupturing it? Thanks, Marco.
Re: OT: Recommendation for a new Debian laptop
On 15/1/22 5:17 pm, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 15/1/22 2:30 pm, john doe wrote: I've looked a bit online and laptops with a Ryzen CPU (5 .../7 ...) are between 550 and 1000 box or more. is this price range what you were suggesting? IN other words, if you were to buy a new laptop which one would you pick. Thanks all for the model suggestions and ensuring that KVM support is available. -- John Doe There is a resource listing debian compatible devices at https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn A list of PCiE laptops is at https://laptop251.com/ssd-laptops/ (They are all intel though) I use acer as they are well manufactured. I assume ASUS and MSI are similar. I wouldn't use a Dell or HP If I was forced to nominate a single laptop I would say Acer Aspire 7, AMD Ryzen 5-5500U, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Nvidia GTX 1650 This is because it has the right drive type and memory type so it can be upgraded where it matters. It's also reasonably mature so not so pricey and has had time for linux drivers to be developed. This does not exclude countless other options which will certainly be better on some criteria. NB I don't have this device and have chosen it only on the reputation of Acer and the documented upgrade path. -- Jeremy OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OT: Recommendation for a new Debian laptop
On 15/1/22 2:30 pm, john doe wrote: I've looked a bit online and laptops with a Ryzen CPU (5 .../7 ...) are between 550 and 1000 box or more. is this price range what you were suggesting? IN other words, if you were to buy a new laptop which one would you pick. Thanks all for the model suggestions and ensuring that KVM support is available. -- John Doe There is a resource listing debian compatible devices at https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn A list of PCiE laptops is at https://laptop251.com/ssd-laptops/ (They are all intel though) I use acer as they are well manufactured. I assume ASUS and MSI are similar. I wouldn't use a Dell or HP -- Jeremy OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OT: Recommendation for a new Debian laptop
* 2022-01-12 08:54:50+0100, john doe wrote: > Basically, I'm looking for some feedback to have a laptop with Debian > on it. I would probably buy a Tuxedo laptop with preinstalled Tuxedo OS or Ubuntu in it. Debian option is not currently available but I believe Debian 11 will also work because the preinstalled Ubuntu is currently version 20.04 LTS. https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/Linux-Hardware/Linux-Notebooks/Alle.tuxedo I have not purchased anything from Tuxedo Computers so I can't really tell myself. In principle I think it is a good idea to support a real Linux brand. -- /// Teemu Likonen - .-.. https://www.iki.fi/tlikonen/ // OpenPGP: 6965F03973F0D4CA22B9410F0F2CAE0E07608462 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Instalar Bullseye en equipo con placa madre Gigabyte H410M H V3...
El 2022-01-14 a las 20:00 -0300, Walter Omar Dari escribió: > El 14/1/22 a las 06:42, Camaleón escribió: > > El 2022-01-14 a las 06:26 -0300, Walter Omar Dari escribió: > > > > > Hola gente: > > > > > > Alguien logró instalar esta versión de Debian en un equipo con esta placa > > > ? > > > > > > Ya no se que probar. > > > > > > CSM habilitado, CSM deshabilitado, W10, Otro S.O., boot secure > > > deshabilitado... > > > > > > Lo termino de instalar y cuando reinicia se cuelga, no hay imagen. > > > Probé instalarlo sin escritorio para evitar que cargue el modo gráfico por > > > si se trataba de un problema con éste modo, pero tampoco inicia. > > > Muestra un par de líneas de texto y no inicia (las líneas no indican un > > > error). > > > > > > Probé instalar W10 para ver si funcionaba y lo hace, le instalé Bullseye a > > > continuación (en el espacio que quedaba en el disco) y vuelve a hacer > > > exactamente lo mismo. > > > > > > A la placa madre le actualicé la BIOS por si acaso pero hace lo mismo. > > > > > > Agradeceré cualquier pista. > > > > Debe ser por la gráfica... hace poco también se habló de ese asunto por > > la lista, parece que volvemos a los viejos problemas de las > > incompatibilidades con los componentes nuevos :-) > > > > Debian Buster can't open display on the platform: Intel G6400 + > > Gigabyte H410M H motherboard > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/643441/debian-buster-cant-open-display-on-the-platform-intel-g6400-gigabyte-h410m-h > Ultimas novedades... > > Conservo todos los cd's de instalación que voy quemando. > > Encontré y acabo de instalar un Debian Stretch 9.5.0-amd64 (también en modo > UEFI), con el kernel 4.9.0-7 y funcionó ! > > Tengo LXDE en pantalla en estos momentos y corre sin problema. > > Ahora estoy más desconcertado que antes... Debian Stretch lleva una versión del kernel (4.9), más antigua que Bullseye (5.10), quizá el problema radica en lo que indican en ese enlace que te pasé, y con una versión distinta del kernel lo soluciones. Prueba a cargar una LiveCD de testing que lleva una versión ligeramente superior (5.15) a ver si funciona. Saludos, -- Camaleón
Re: Instalar Bullseye en equipo con placa madre Gigabyte H410M H V3...
El 2022-01-14 a las 19:34 -0300, Walter Omar Dari escribió: > El 14/1/22 a las 06:42, Camaleón escribió: > > El 2022-01-14 a las 06:26 -0300, Walter Omar Dari escribió: > > > > > Hola gente: > > > > > > Alguien logró instalar esta versión de Debian en un equipo con esta placa > > > ? > > > > > > Ya no se que probar. > > > > > > CSM habilitado, CSM deshabilitado, W10, Otro S.O., boot secure > > > deshabilitado... > > > > > > Lo termino de instalar y cuando reinicia se cuelga, no hay imagen. > > > Probé instalarlo sin escritorio para evitar que cargue el modo gráfico por > > > si se trataba de un problema con éste modo, pero tampoco inicia. > > > Muestra un par de líneas de texto y no inicia (las líneas no indican un > > > error). > > > > > > Probé instalar W10 para ver si funcionaba y lo hace, le instalé Bullseye a > > > continuación (en el espacio que quedaba en el disco) y vuelve a hacer > > > exactamente lo mismo. > > > > > > A la placa madre le actualicé la BIOS por si acaso pero hace lo mismo. > > > > > > Agradeceré cualquier pista. > > > > Debe ser por la gráfica... hace poco también se habló de ese asunto por > > la lista, parece que volvemos a los viejos problemas de las > > incompatibilidades con los componentes nuevos :-) > > > > Debian Buster can't open display on the platform: Intel G6400 + > > Gigabyte H410M H motherboard > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/643441/debian-buster-cant-open-display-on-the-platform-intel-g6400-gigabyte-h410m-h > Pongo otro dato adicional por acá arriba... > > > Tampoco puedo ingresar en modo "Recovery" en ninguno de los 2 kernel que > quedaron instalados. Eso descartaría un problema con el controlador gráfico porque en el modo de recuperación se cargan las herramientas mínimas (ni X, ni gaitas). Saludos, -- Camaleón
