OT: Hard drive backup plan
My /dev/hda hard drive is on the way out, and I just wanted to run my backup plan past you all, to minimise any pain if/when it's replaced... My setup is as follows: Running Debian woody with a few backported newer packages. 40G /dev/hda split between an ext3 root partition (about 20Gb), a swap partition, and a Windows 2000 partition (about 20Gb) 40G /dev/hdb, the whole of which is dedicated to an LVM volume group. The only stuff on there I really want to keep is the approx 6Gb of digital photos I've amassed. So, my plan is to: 1. Copy the entire contents of the ext3 root partition minus /proc to an LVM logical volume on /dev/hdb (using cp -a or tar) 2. Copy any windows documents to CD-R and/or /dev/hdb (don't really have the spare space or inclination to do a complete Windows backup). 3. Swap the hard drives 4. Partition the new hard drive with a similar layout to before, and reinstall Windows 2000 (since it affects the MBR). 5. Use Knoppix/LNX-BBC/Eduard Bloch's boot disk to copy the files from the LVM logical volume to the ext3 partition on /dev/hda(got all three, not sure if Knoppix supports LVM though) 6. Use the Debian rescue disk with rescue root =/dev/hda? and then run lilo to write the MBR. Does this sound feasible? I've never tried boot disks with LVM support, so the only tweak I could see is to backup the photos somewhere else, and backup everything to a big ext3 partition on /dev/hdb. Only trouble is I don't really want to have critical stuff only on /dev/hda, and backing up to 10+ CD-Rs would be a bit time consuming. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian mutt questions
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 07:52:14AM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote: can anybody tell me whether the debian mutt package is configured to enable fetching from one's pop server. I get errors when I try to use the pop_host or pop_user variables in my .muttrc. I'm not sure of the answer to your question, but a lot of people use fetchmail or getmail to retrieve the mail from the POP server. Perhaps fetchmail might work in your case. It's also handy if you want to do mail filtering/sorting later down the track, because then you simply insert procmail (or similar) into the mix. I'd guess that most mutt users use it as a user agent only, without using it to pull messages from the mail server. Also, I am a bit confused about sending mail in mutt in debian. All the examples I see have sendmail in the .muttrc; some have /usr/lib/sendmail and some have /usr/sbin/sendmail; both paths are on my system, but should I be using sendmail directly or should I be including exim somewhere in my .muttrc entries? exim has a sendmail compatible mode in which it pretends to be sendmail. If you do ls -l /usr/lib/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail you'll probably find that they both point to exim via symlinks. In other words, any examples using sendmail should work OK with exim. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NNTP to email?
I'm rather fond of mutt as an email client, and would like to use it to read Usenet articles too. I've been using a Python based NNTP downloader, but it's a bit slow, and doesn't seem to handle errors/failures very well. Does anyone have a suggestion as to a good way to achieve this using Debian (running mostly stable, with a few add ons)? I'm aware that there's a NNTP patch for mutt, but thought there is probably an easier way than a self-built mutt package (then I have to maintain it as mutt is updated, unless the NNTP patch makes it into mutt proper). - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flphoto program to deb?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 07:47:47PM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 09:28:49AM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote: BTW, I have not yet tried flphoto's rotation. Will come back after some more experiments :-) Am back after my trials with flphoto. It rotates in a lossless fashion and has an option of storing the exif data. Checked it and it tallied exactly with the original. A fall out of this, I do not have to go to the other os to rotate my images losslessly retaining the exif data. You can also rotate losslessly via jpegtran in libjpeg-progs (or libjpeg-mmx-progs. It also can preserve the EXIF data if passed the -copy all option. Works fine in the stable version of jpegtran. If only, I could get the gphoto2 cvs debs, then my Canon A70 would be easily recognised. I've got my A70 working under 2.0final-4 which is the version in stable. The trick is to have all the right USB modules loaded, and pass a fudged command line to gphoto2 (trick it into thinking it's a different camera) Try gphoto2 --usbid 0x4a9:0x3073=0x4a9:0x3056 --camera Canon Powershot S40 -P This causes all the photos to be downloaded to the current directory. Note that while retrieving photos works fine, other functions like remote capture aren't guaranteed to work correctly with the A70 under Linux. I found this information on this page: http://pto.linuxbog.dk/Canon_PowerShot_A70_Linux I didn't manage to get the hotplug usermap thing going, so I just have a little script to run that command I mentioned earlier when I want to upload photos. hth, - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JPG's poor quality
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 04:11:42PM -0500, Charles Logan wrote: I'm not sure when this little problem began, but the only system changes have been updates from security.debian. The system is an all stable Woody box. The problem is that images saved in the jpg format appear horribly blurred and smudged. This is true no matter which application saves the image. Gimp, Kpaint, Xv, etc all exhibit the same behavior. If an image is saved in any other format, gif, png, bmp, xbm, etc, when displayed, it looks fine. The problem is most noticeable if text is used, but any object placed on a canvas with any drawing program will have a smudgy, ghost like shadow 20-40 pixels around the object, as well as washed out and blotchy looking color in the object itself. I made a simple black text on white back ground image with Gimp and saved it in jpg, gif, and tif formats. gif and tif look nice and crisp and clean when the image is viewed with a web browser or a image viewing program, but the jpg version looks terrible. Other jpg images from other sources appear fine, so it has to be something happening when a program on this system saves a jpg image. My default desktop is KDE 2.2.2, with X11 4.2.0. I have also tried other window managers, Gnome, Fvwm, IceWm but the same results occur no matter what. All other graphics related items seem to be fine. The default desktop is 800x600 with 24 bit depth, although I have also tried lower resolutions and color depth with no change. The video card is a Trident CyberBlade AGP. I'm quite sure that this problem is something fairly new as I have used Gimp previously to create many web images that were saved in jpg format without this happening. Any ideas as to what might be causing this?Thanks! Hmm, the symptoms sound to me like artifacts of the JPEG compression itself. You didn't mention trying different JPEG quality settings, so I'd try that first. What settings did you use in the JPEG save dialog box in gimp? You should see one if you try and resave a non JPEG image into jpeg (eg save myfile.tiff as myfile.jpg). Also, what happens if you use imagemagick to convert, like so: convert -quality 100 myfile.tiff myfile.jpg The other thing is that since jpeg compression is lossy, repeated saves of the same file will cause it to lose quality. Where possible, try to edit the file in a lossless format (like tiff or xcf) and then convert to JPEG at the end of the cycle. And keep a non lossy version around in case you need to edit it again later. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Belkin CompactFlash reader problems
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 10:53:20AM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 11:52:02PM +1000, Chris Kenrick wrote.. Hi all, I've got a Belkin compact flash card reader connected to my USB port. Works fine under Win2K even with plug and play, so the hardware is OK. I think I've got all the right modules loaded. The reader seems to be picked up [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: OEI-USB Model: CompactFlash Rev: 5.01 Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 But, /var/log/messages reports errors... May 25 23:29:29 gandalf kernel: SCSI device sda: 31488 512-byte hdwr sectors (16 MB) May 25 23:29:29 gandalf kernel: sda: Write Protect is off May 25 23:29:29 gandalf kernel: sda: sda1 May 25 23:29:29 gandalf kernel: SCSI error: host 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 802 I'm guessing that the reader doesn't work with Linux (says it is mass storage compliant, though). Anyone have any bright ideas? lsmod to see what is loaded. You potentially need: usb-storage usbcore scsi_mod sd_mod usb-uhci input sr_mod Yep, got all those (now). apt-get install sg3-utils and then use: sg_scan -i // to see scsi type devices sg_map // to see device associations /dev/sg1: scsi1 channel=0 id=0 lun=0 [em] type=0 OEI-USB CompactFlash 5.01 [wide=0 sync=0 cmdq=0 sftre=0 pq=0x0] ...and... /dev/sg1 /dev/sda Mount the drive found (should be a SCSI drive): mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /home/kevin/mnt/usbdevice // i have 2 scsi HD's, hence my reader is /dev/sdc1 Gives: mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device Diagnose by checking: /var/log/messages Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: ^ISense class 7, sense error 0, extended sense 0Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: SCSI device sda: 31488 512-byte hdwr sectors (16 MB) Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 3, frame# 1878 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: sda: I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: unable to read partition table Doesn't look to be picking up the partition table /var/log/syslog Whole bunch of messages like these: Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: queuecommand() called Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: *** thread awakened. Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: Command MODE_SENSE (6 bytes) Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: 1a 00 3f 00 ff 00 00 00 00 00 61 ccJun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: Bulk command S 0x43425355 T 0x7d Trg 0 LUN 0 L 255 F 128 CL 6 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: Bulk command transfer result=0 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: usb_stor_transfer_partial(): xfer 255 bytes Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_msg() returned 0 xferred 12/255 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: Bulk data transfer result 0x1 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: Attempting to get CSW... Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 3, frame# 1878 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: clearing endpoint halt for pipe 0xc0010280 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: usb_stor_clear_halt: result=0 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: Attempting to get CSW (2nd try)... Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: Bulk status result = 0 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: Bulk status Sig 0x53425355 T 0x7d R 243 Stat 0x0 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: scsi cmd done, result=0x0 Jun 1 00:14:11 gandalf kernel: usb-storage: *** thread sleeping. /proc/bus/usb // shows what's been seen Checked, it's there. Didn't include the output for brevity's sake /proc/scsi/scsi // to see what scsi devices are there Same output as the sg_scan -i above Notes: Like any other hard drive, you can use other commands on your mounted USB storage device: fdisk /dev/sdc1 // play with partitions If I try this with -l to list the partitions, there is no output and the log file records an error message. Not looking promising. Any further ideas, anyone? - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why am I no longer receiving the digest?
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 01:41:46PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: Is there some problem with the list servers at the moment? I haven't received a debian-user-digest since March 31st. Yet on visiting lists.debian.org I see there's been plenty of traffic. Has anybody else not received the digest? I'm not currently subscribed to the digest, but have been in the past. Over that time, probably 4 or 5 occurrences of what you describe happened. You get nothing for days on end, then all of a sudden it starts up again. Hence, I'm back to the debian-user over dialup thing too :) BTW, if the digest does get going again, you can use procmail and formail to automatically split it into separate messages again before delivering it to your folder. Makes reading it by thread a whole lot easier. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THANKS
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 09:13:16AM +1000, Lindsay Yardley wrote: G'day All, A very special THANKS to all those who've helped me get started with debian. Unfortunately I don't have the time to cope with the quantity of mail on this list so I'm off to find a quieter one. Thanks again, Glad you liked it. Yes, there's a lot of list posts going through, but I think you'll find it's the most useful mailing list around. My suggestion would be to get the hang of a MUA which supports threading (mutt would be my recommendation). Also, use procmail to sort all your debian list mail into a different folder. Once thats done, you only have to read the list when you get a free moment. You can also quickly skip through threads looking for stuff that interests you. In any case, best of luck with Debian - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: FW: Retrieving mail from a web based mail service?
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:48:13AM +0530, Sharninder wrote: I was wondering if there was nything like fetchmail for web based access? not any AFAIK. All web mail clients might handle and do handle the client side differently even though they might be using the same IMAP or POP protocols on the server. If it's yahoo or hotmail u migth find something of your interest on freshmeat. There's a debian package called gotmail that does this for hotmail, its in stable/testing/unstable. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to duplicate a CD?
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 04:16:27PM +, Shri Shrikumar wrote: On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 03:41, stan wrote: I posted this a few months agoa, and got an answer involving cdparnoia, and cdrecord. But I sem to have lost the emails, and I can't seem to get the mailing list archive search engine to find it :-( So, how can I duplicat an audio CD? I think you can use dd dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cdrom.iso then, you just burn cdrom.iso I know this technique works for data CDs, but does it work for audio CDs too? Anyone actually tried this? - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: email-fax gateway - need suggestions
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 09:36:05PM -0500, Neal Lippman wrote: I was hoping some folks here could give me some suggestions on setting up an email to fax gateway. My project is basically to provide a mechanism so someone can email to a an address in my office (eg [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and have that email automatically faxed out. This idea is to eliminate the manpower requirement for faxing out reports, which is overwhelming our staff who presently have to print the email and manually fax each report, sometimes to multiple recipients. I am aware that this problem has been addressed in various ways using efax or hylafax, but my requirements are a bit unique compared to the solutions I've seen: 1. Most commonly, the document that needs to be faxed will be an MS Word document, send as an attachment to the email message. As a result, simply trying to fax the email body itself won't work. Uh huh. 2. The people generating the email that needs to be faxed will generally know the name of a person (or people) to recieve the fax, but not their fax numbers. We will have an LDAP directory online which will contain fax numbers, so the handler needs to look up the recipient(s) and translate names to fax numbers automatically. Sounds fair... 3. The sender should get back an email acknowledgement so he knows if the fax went through or not. Should be possible to do this. If there's multiple recipients, and it doesn't get through to some of them, how will this look on the report? 4. After the fax is sent, the file itself (word document) needs to be saved on our fileserver for later reference as well. Yep... Our present email implementation uses cyrus-imapd as a mail store. Our email is received at an external pop3 server. We use fetchmail running as a daemon to periodically retrieve email for all accounts and forward the email to cyrus (via an lmtp connection). I was therefore thinking of the following solution: 1. Write a demon that listens for lmtp connections from fetchmail which will forward fax related emails to this demon via lmtp (I am in the process of writing something similar to handle emails and forward them to the printer automatically, so I can reuse this code anyway). 2. The demon can process the email body based on mime-time. For straight text, should assume a first line of the format FAX:recipient[,recipient...]. For MSWord attachments, the process is more complicated: The filename will consist of the local patch to store the file, followed by a list of recipients. Via this mechanism, the demon knows both where to store the file on the file server and to whom the file should be faxed. Why not use the email subject as the recipient list? Might make the parsing a bit easier. 3. Using wv, the file is converted from MS Word to postscript, and can then be fed into efax for transmission. The exit status of efax indicates whether the fax went through, which can be emailed back to the sender. Haven't come across wv, so don't know how good a conversion job it does. Another possibility might be to set up a network printer that when you print a Word document to it, saves the postscript file somewhere, or emails it back to the user. The user then attaches that file to the fax email. I would appreciate anyone who knows of a better / simpler solution, or comments on what I have proposed I would very much appreciate it. Sounds OK to me, still a bit of work to implement though :) nl PS: I am aware that there isn't any security in the above system, and I recognize the opening this gives for someone to use my fax as a forwarding station. I haven't yet decided how to handle security in a meaningful way, but I'm also open to suggestions on this score. I guess examine the email headers, and work out if the request originated within your network, a bit like a firewall might. It might be nice to have some sort of audit trail with who faxed what, when they faxed it, and how many pages it was, too. You could even send a confirmation email back to the email address to prevent address spoofing. Anyway, good luck with it! - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saving mail to another user's account
The story behind this one is that I want to save some emails that come through my POP3 account to my local user to another account (that of my wife). I don't want to forward them, because replying to a forward ends up sending the message to me (in Evolution, anyway). At present I'm manually picking and saving messages from my account into her mail spool. It then occurred to me that there is probably some proper MDA way to do this (and easier than the multiple step process that I currently use). Any ideas, anyone? I'm running exim in daemon mode as my MDA, and mutt as my MUA. - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt question (downgrading and installing from source)
In order to get a few packages to the versions I wanted them at, I ended up using packages from unstable. Unfortunately, I ended up getting libc6 and a few other important ones. Now I'm seeing various errors sporadically that I suspect are related to this upgrade. First question, what's the easiest way of working out what to revert back to? Ideally I need to be able to work out which packages installed on my system don't match the ones in my sources list. Once I do that, I'll get rid of the packages that require libc6 and so on, and manually downgrade. Second question, one I've got back to a stable system, I'm wanting to install some of the unstable packages by downloading unstable source and then compiling it into a custom package. What's the best way to do this, for example, for vorbis-tools? - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Saving mail to another user's account
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 12:39:24PM +, Rus Foster wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Chris Kenrick wrote: The story behind this one is that I want to save some emails that come through my POP3 account to my local user to another account (that of my wife). I don't want to forward them, because replying to a forward ends up sending the message to me (in Evolution, anyway). At present I'm manually picking and saving messages from my account into her mail spool. It then occurred to me that there is probably some proper MDA way to do this (and easier than the multiple step process that I currently use). Any ideas, anyone? I'm running exim in daemon mode as my MDA, and mutt as my MUA. You can try installing procmail and putting in a recipe similar to * ^myregexp.* !otheraccount Guess I could do that. What happens when I already have a message that I decide needs to be copied to my wife's mailbox? Sure, I can update the .procmailrc but that doesn't deal with the existing message. Unless I then pipe the message through procmail and then delete it. - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Saving mail to another user's account
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 01:54:00PM +0100, Bruno Boettcher wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 10:11:44PM +1100, Chris Kenrick wrote: The story behind this one is that I want to save some emails that come through my POP3 account to my local user to another account (that of my uhm? why not configure fetchmail properly then? you know that fetchmail understands 'is user here' ? Note the operative word being _some_ emails, not all. I'm already using the is user here fetchmail feature as it is. - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Saving mail to another user's account
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 01:21:07PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 10:11:44PM +1100, Chris Kenrick wrote: The story behind this one is that I want to save some emails that come through my POP3 account to my local user to another account (that of my wife). I don't want to forward them, because replying to a forward ends up sending the message to me (in Evolution, anyway). At present I'm manually picking and saving messages from my account into her mail spool. It then occurred to me that there is probably some proper MDA way to do this (and easier than the multiple step process that I currently use). Any ideas, anyone? I'm running exim in daemon mode as my MDA, and mutt as my MUA. If it's just the odd message, use mutt's bounce command, bound to 'b' by default. Brilliant, just what I was looking for. Thanks, Colin and Frank. - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I create a mirror from my CDs
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 05:24:12PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've googled. I've found scripts that don't Work For Me. I've found the APT howto and not understood the little information I could see there. I've got seven CDs burned myself from the ISO images I downloaded. Unpacking them is no problem, I can mount -o loop,ro with the best of them, and from there I can tar cC /mnt/cdrom | tar xpC /var/ftp/pub/linux/debian and recursively chmod and rm TRANS.TBLs. I'm new to Debian, not new to Linux. What I can't figure is precisely how to create those Packages files. What command(s) do I run, and importantly, in what directories? There's a couple of ways to achieve this... 1. Copy the contents of each CD to a separate subdirectory, and add seven entries in your /etc/apt/sources.list. An entry might look something like this: deb file:/home/debcds/disk1 woody contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main 2. Make an empty directory, copy CDs into it. Install apt-utils if not already installed, and run apt-ftparchive to generate Packages.gz and Sources.gz. Add one entry to /etc/apt/sources/list I've done option 1, and it works fine. Option 2 was an alternative suggested when I asked the same question of the list - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accessing linux partitions from windows
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:44:01PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: hello all i do not know if this is a security issue. but this is surprising. there is a win9x application - e2fs that can explore linux partitions on dual boot machines. here is the homepage http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ i have tried the program. basic procedure is boot the machine in windows and run e2fs. you can browse entire linux partition. who cares about file permissions! most importantly, is there a way to prevent this? As others have said, physical access to the machine means problems whichever way. Setting a BIOS password might slow down an attacker somewhat (but they can still take the machine apart and remove the BIOS battery). - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:24:16AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:07:19AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: I'd rather not use mutt because family members do send me funky formatted mail sometimes and I also use multiple From: addresses, depending on which folder I'm in. I'm not following why these are reasons not to use Mutt. Mutt is more than capable of handling the situation you describe. In fact, Mutt is probably the most configurable MUA that you'll find (short of possibly emacs). I'd second that. mutt under cygwin is probably your best bet. On a Unix box, you can just add lines like text/html ; w3m -T text/html ; copiousoutput to your ~/.mailcap file. As for different From address depending on what folder, folder hooks are your best bet. Here's the one I use for this list. folder-hook debian-user 'my_hdr From: Chris Kenrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (above should be all on one line in the file, but wrapped for mail purposes) Sorry to sound like a mutt fanboy, but it really is a nice MUA. - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto add a crontab job ?
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 02:18:45PM -0900, W.D.McKinney wrote: I am new to debian and wondered what's the best way to add a job for crontab (indexmaker for mrtg) ? Write a short shell script to do what you need, looking something like #!/bin/sh mrtg dosomething and put the file in /etc/cron.daily (presuming you want it run once a day). Or, if you want it at a certain time, or whatever, use man crontab to see the file format, and edit /etc/crontab HTH - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetchmail restart or awaken?
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 11:56:04AM +0100, Christian Mascher wrote: Hi, still got the same problem with the way fetchmail is set up in debian (woody): after dialing with pon provider /etc/init.d/fetchmail awaken is called by fetchmail-script in ip-up.d. But fetchmail doesn't fetch mail, declaring a temporary name server error. It does that all the time I'm offline, understandably. What I don't understand is, why it doesn't realize resolve.conf has changed after dialling and just goes on saying it can't resolve even after the awaken signal. If I change awaken to restart fetchmail gets the mail (no problem resolving the mail-provider's address in that case). It seems as if the fetchmail-daemon remembers it couldn't resolve pop.isp.xyz (after getting started on bootup) and thus repeats the error message without even trying, whereas a newly started copy finds out it _can_ resolve. Does anybody have the same problem? Yep, but I took a different approach. I figured that I only wanted fetchmail started while I was dialed up. So I removed all the fetchmail startup links from /etc/rc?.d which seems to work OK. - Chris __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unknown restarts
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 04:44:59PM -0700, Rusty Minden wrote: On Friday 18 October 2002 03:34 pm, Chris Kenrick wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:47:40AM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 13:41, Scott Henson wrote: I reinstalled my system last week with a mix of unstable and experimental(gnome2 packages). Since then I have been experienceing some unexplained restarts. Basically the machine randomly restarts with no explanation in my logs. It only happens while idle. I have yet to have it restart while Im working on it. I will leave it while logged in and then when I come back the computer has restarted. I have left it Well Im thinking this is a hardware problem. The machine restarted under windows while playing GTA3. I have checked the ram and it seems to be good. How did you check it? I'd recommend making a memtest86 boot disk and running that over it for a few hours to make sure - Chris I just fixed a very similar problem my power supply was too small. I had a 250 and now I am running a 400 grunt...grunt... and have not had any trouble since (I have notice a performance boost to?!? Rusty Posted back to list, and changed to bottom posting. - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple HTTP Server Recommendation
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 02:41:55PM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote: Team: I need to put up a simple, HTML-only site. No database/CGI/anything. Apache looks like overkill. Can you recommend a nice, compact, efficient alternative? IIRC there is a Linux kernel based webserver, which can only serve static pages (called tux?). Google should be able to unearth more info... - Chris __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unknown restarts
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:47:40AM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 13:41, Scott Henson wrote: I reinstalled my system last week with a mix of unstable and experimental(gnome2 packages). Since then I have been experienceing some unexplained restarts. Basically the machine randomly restarts with no explanation in my logs. It only happens while idle. I have yet to have it restart while Im working on it. I will leave it while logged in and then when I come back the computer has restarted. I have left it Well Im thinking this is a hardware problem. The machine restarted under windows while playing GTA3. I have checked the ram and it seems to be good. How did you check it? I'd recommend making a memtest86 boot disk and running that over it for a few hours to make sure - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user-digest crippled
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:10:23AM -0700, Johannes Graumann wrote: Hello, Have people aside from me lately had problems with crippled debian-user-digest messages? The digests I get always have less message entries than the TOC says and the number of attached original messages corresponds to the number of entries showing up in the main message (too few as well). Didn't notice that one last time I was on digest. Then again, I used procmail and formail to automagically resplit the digest into individual messages before delivery to my mail folder :) There was a time where the digest wasn't working at all, but that was fixed a short while ago. Are the maintainers reading this? No, probably not. You need to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for that. They're pretty busy from what I gather, so they might take a while to respond... - Chris __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find utility gives segmentation fault
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 12:22:37AM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 28 June 2002 00:06, Larry Smith wrote: I've been having trouble with the find utility in Potato. Often, if I run find as root (so I can have permission to look in all directories), it will run awhile, then die with a segmentation fault. When this happens, I'm unable to do a normal shutdown, the system hangs during shutdown. I use the command: find -name filename You need to specify a directory to start the search in. Try: find / -name filename Uh, no. If you don't give a directory, then find defaults to using the current directory(as per the manpage). I don't think that's the problem in this case. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multiple tape backup?
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:25:56AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I am planing to backup the /home directory which is around 30GB in size with multiple DDS3 tape--each has 12GB. Is there any tool for easier multiple tape backup like this? I can switch the tape myself. tar has support for multi volume archives, with the -M option. See the tar manpage/infopage/doco for more info, such as how to run a custom script at each volume change. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt and maildir(?)
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 04:48:30PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote: Hi all, I'm trying something New and Different with my mail configuration. Until fairly recently I have used mutt to access an IMAP server. Now I have decided I want procmail, so I am using fetchmail to get the mail, which forwards it to exim, which pipes it through procmail, which dumps each message in a separate file in a directory named like: $HOME/Mail/folder_name/msg.3F7 I gather that this is called a 'maildir' mailbox. I can't get mutt to look at it, though. The closest I could find to a tip about this is that MH mail directories need a .mh_sequences file. Do I just need to create this file (empty) and then everything will work? Or is there some other way to get mutt to read this mail directory? Tom According to the mutt manual: Mutt supports reading and writing of four different mailbox formats: mbox, MMDF, MH and Maildir. The mailbox type is autodetected, so there is no need to use a flag for different mailbox types. When creating new mailboxes, Mutt uses the default specified with the ``$mbox_type'' variable. So there shouldn't be any difference. Have you defined the mailboxes in the mailboxes variable? Does the folder setting point to the right place? What happens when you do a mutt -f $HOME/Mail/folder_name ? - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt and maildir(?)
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 05:49:04PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote: Thanks for the reply, but none of those things help. See below... On 0, Chris Kenrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 04:48:30PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote: Hi all, I'm trying something New and Different with my mail configuration. Until fairly recently I have used mutt to access an IMAP server. Now I have decided I want procmail, so I am using fetchmail to get the mail, which forwards it to exim, which pipes it through procmail, which dumps each message in a separate file in a directory named like: $HOME/Mail/folder_name/msg.3F7 I gather that this is called a 'maildir' mailbox. I can't get mutt to look at it, though. The closest I could find to a tip about this is that MH mail directories need a .mh_sequences file. Do I just need to create this file (empty) and then everything will work? Or is there some other way to get mutt to read this mail directory? Tom According to the mutt manual: Mutt supports reading and writing of four different mailbox formats: mbox, MMDF, MH and Maildir. The mailbox type is autodetected, so there is no need to use a flag for different mailbox types. When creating new mailboxes, Mutt uses the default specified with the ``$mbox_type'' variable. Yes, I read that too. So there shouldn't be any difference. Have you defined the mailboxes in the mailboxes variable? This line appears in .muttrc: mailboxes /home/tkcook/Mail/inbox/ /home/tkcook/Mail/debian-user/ Does the folder setting point to the right place? This line appears in .muttrc: set folder=/home/tkcook/Mail What happens when you do a mutt -f $HOME/Mail/folder_name ? I get an empty mailbox index. No, the mailbox is not empty ;-) Thanks Tom As per previous answers on the list, it sounds like the mailbox is not really in Maildir format. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh update or upgrade required? which is it?
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 06:14:18PM -0700, justin cunningham wrote: Hi list, can you please clarify something for me-- this should be pretty straight forward so sorry if the question seems a bit lame. Can you please reply to the email in addition to the list since I'm not currently subscribed. I read this release http://www.debian.org/security/2002/dsa-134 and it says to upgrade to ssh 3.3p1 for woody and that the package for potato hasn't yet been compiled. On my stable boxes I ran apt-get update and it pulled down some patches from security though the only recent post for security updates is this one so was my open ssh from the potato branch updated proficiently or do I need to install this new version? If I need to install ssh 3.3 and want the rest of my box to stay in stable until woody is complete how do I do this? Thanks, Justin According to my traversing through the security updates section via FTP, the ssh version there for potato i386 is 1.2.3-9.4 So no, you haven't fixed the vulnerability via any apt-get upgrades ... You really have two options: download the ssh source and compile it yourself, or wait until the potato update gets done. I presume potato is still being security patched, at least until a bit after Woody is released. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AWK: adds ^M at the end of line?
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:08:34PM +1000, Matthew Dalton wrote: On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 05:10:15AM -0400, Abdul Latip wrote: What file are you trying to read. If it is mail coming from fetchmail, there were some change which causes ^M in mail file. It is ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc-index.txt I believe that that file does not have ^Ms. Basically, what I am doing (once in a while), to get a recent rfc-index file, and merging each rfc description (1-3 lines) into one line. The script is actually simple and stupid. The original file is a dos format text file. Dos text files have CR-LF at the end of every line, whereas unix files only have LF. The extra CR is the ^M you're seeing. Obviously awk (mawk?) is not handling the text format properly, instead assuming it is a unix format file. Your belief that the original file does not have ^Ms is incorrect. It does have them, but they just don't show up on most editors. If you edit it with nvi, you'll see them there. I'd suggest one of two things: 1. If your awk is mawk, try installing gawk (GNU awk) and see if that handles dos text files better. 2. Convert the files by removing the ^Ms before running awk on them. This is basically a compatibility problem, not a bug in awk. Matthew I'd add a third option. Assuming the FTP server is configured properly, transfer the file as ascii rather than binary, and it should do the conversion properly for you. I tested with this particular file transferring as ASCII, and it worked transparently. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh update or upgrade required? which is it? [now restricting ssh]
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 07:32:45PM -0700, justin cunningham wrote: If I wanted to restrict ssh to only listen for my office's ip until it gets patched how do I do this? I tried editing sshd_config and putting my office ip as the listenaddress but it didn't work. What did I do incorrectly? Thanks, Justin ps: please reply to email address as well as deb list. According to sshd manpage (well at least here on Redhat), if ssh has been compiled with LIBWRAP support, then you can use /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny to achieve what you want. See man 5 hosts_access. Someone else might be so kind as to post the exact syntax. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix 101: ls with file count
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 10:41:48PM -0500, Kent West wrote: Okay, back to Unix 101 for me. How do I produce a directory listing followed by a count of files and directories? ls | wc only produces a count without listing the files, and it doesn't distinguish between files and directories. What I'd like is something like this: westk03[westk]:/home/westk ls DOCS evolution Desktop lang HOCHZEIT.MPG lynx_bookmarks.html INSTALLERSmbox MMEDIAmnt Mail nsmail Nautilus oh brother where art thou - down by the river allison kra.wav PILOT plugin130_01.trace bin progtool calc.perl tmp clock vmware doc www 16 directories 8 files 24 total Thanks! Kent Probably best to do it in two steps. 1) Simply call ls to do the first bit 2) Calculating the totals. Read the bash manpage for how to use variables and how to add them together. You'll probably want to use something like `find . -type d -maxdepth 1 | wc -l` to count directories and `find . -type f -maxdepth 1 | wc -l` to count files. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i made a boo-boo
On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 11:31:08PM -0700, alephtnull wrote: Hi, I have made a boo-boo. I recompiled my kernel (after 5 months doing make dep,make clean, make modules and make modules_install) then make bzImage then copied bzImage to vmlinuz and backed up vmlinuz (just in case something goes wrong) then issued the command lilo to update my changes then rebooted... everything should be ok but when I rebooted, after lilo starts loading it reboots again and when lilo starts loading, it does this again and again... Unfortunately, I lost my rescue disk...help! Well, you're in a bit of a pickle. For next time, its a good idea to make a separate LILO entry for the new kernel so you can easily revert back to the old one if things go wrong. I would suggest downloading the Debian rescue disk again (or tomsrtbt), then use that to revert back to the old kernel (ie mount drive, copy old kernel back to vmlinuz, etc). - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i made a boo-boo
Mail forwarded back to list - Chris - Forwarded message from Larry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: i made a boo-boo To: Chris Kenrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think this may have happened: The LILO entry is the name of a link in the root directory. It links to an actual kernel file in the boot directory. If you copy over the file in the /boot directory with a new kernel, I think you need to remove and remake the link in the root directory. Something like this: ln -s /boot/vmlinuz_2.2.19 vmlinuz You'll need to boot from the CD or a boot floppy to get to your hard disk, then maybe this will solve your problem. As has been suggested, it's best to make your new kernal a different LILO entry, leaving you the option to boot back to your original kernel. If you do that, copy your new kernel into the /boot directory by some name you choose, make a link to it in the root directory (/), and use the root name as the LILO entry, giving in a different label, like new or something. --- Chris Kenrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 11:31:08PM -0700, alephtnull wrote: Hi, I have made a boo-boo. I recompiled my kernel (after 5 months doing make dep,make clean, make modules and make modules_install) then make bzImage then copied bzImage to vmlinuz and backed up vmlinuz (just in case something goes wrong) then issued the command lilo to update my changes then rebooted... everything should be ok but when I rebooted, after lilo starts loading it reboots again and when lilo starts loading, it does this again and again... Unfortunately, I lost my rescue disk...help! Well, you're in a bit of a pickle. For next time, its a good idea to make a separate LILO entry for the new kernel so you can easily revert back to the old one if things go wrong. I would suggest downloading the Debian rescue disk again (or tomsrtbt), then use that to revert back to the old kernel (ie mount drive, copy old kernel back to vmlinuz, etc). - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - End forwarded message - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't reach master.debian.org
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 08:14:10PM -0400, Tom Zych wrote: Colin Watson wrote: Can you get there now? brainfood.com, its host, was off the network for a few minutes earlier today. Sorry, I forgot to say this is an ongoing problem. Started a couple of months ago, I guess. ping gives me 216.234.231.5 as the IP address, does this match what ping tells you? dig master.debian.org gives 65.125.64.135 here. dig -x 216.234.231.5 doesn't give an answer, so not sure what that address is :) - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT?] Digest version available?
On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 02:25:39AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [sot of off topic] is there a digest version available of debian-user? Couldn't find one on the mailing list pages.. Jani Well, there is debian-user-digest (or at least was). However, it was broken last time I looked... Try sending a subscribe request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT?] Digest version available?
On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:55:31AM +1000, Chris Kenrick wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 02:25:39AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [sot of off topic] is there a digest version available of debian-user? Couldn't find one on the mailing list pages.. Jani Well, there is debian-user-digest (or at least was). However, it was broken last time I looked... Try sending a subscribe request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ack, sorry about that folks. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. Seems that mail sent to debian-user-digest comes back through debian-user itself... - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: How to find a modem that works with Linux...
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 06:04:26PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 05:58:36PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: Funny, I've heard this external-is-better for years, but I've been using internals for more than a decade and never had problems with them. An external is just one more box taking up space somewhere on my crowded table. True. As for lights, I don't have that problem, the lights are on the command bar at the bottom, either in Windows or Linux/X/KDE. Where? I haven't seen any lights in windows (back when I used it, and also had dial-up). I haven't looked for lights linux. Lights aren't that helpful anyway, they can't tell you whether the delay is temporary or your ISP connection is hung permanently. The lights are helpful to show whether or not you have a dial-tone, etc. In addition, if the modem has a digital display, it can give more informative information or error codes. A good internal one is just as good, and a tad cheaper, than an external one. The difficulty with internal modems is finding the good to go with it :-). With external modems, you *know* immediately that it isn't a winmodem. Another point to consider, an internal modem takes up an extra ISA/PCI slot in your machine. An external one only uses a serial port, which are not commonly used anymore anyways. (well, I've mainly only seen modems, old mice, and old printers that used the serial port. Most people don't have a Lucent phone switch in their house to get SMDR logging from, and an org. large enough to have their own can spare some extra serial ports :-)) I've potentially got three devices that could all use the serial port .. palm sync, IR sensor for remote control and the modem. That's another problem I hadn't thought of... Either style modem is fine, as long as it works. This is true. Consensus on this thread so far seems to suggest that the external USR modems are of good quality. Unfortunately, these are not quite so common as other brands here in .au, and the ones I've seen are hellishly expensive and/or come with unneeded features such as a built in digital answering machine. There is however a Mitsubishi external that's advertised as supporting Linux, anyone tried it? (The other brands advertised commonly are D-Link,Swann,Netcomm and the like) - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tar question from newbie
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 07:23:00PM -0700, Abner Gershon wrote: This is very frustrating. I have 3 Linux books that I have consulted as well as the man page and I can't figure out how to use tar to back up my /home directory from where it resides on /dev/hdd to my other hard drive /dev/hdb7. I accidentaly ran fsck today without making the file system read only which I later read was a no no and I am wondering if this may have lead to a problem. I never received any message that any of the files were damaged though. Anyway I change to my home directory, cd /home. Then type tar -cf /mnt/abner (I previously mounted /dev/hdb7 to /mnt) Then I get the error message,tar: Cowardly refusing to create and empty archive. I fooled around for a couple of hours with different sources and destinations for tar file but always got the same error message. Aaargh!! By the way I am logged on as root if this helps. I desperately await your replies. Thanks. Presuming you just want to create the tar file as abner.tar in the root directory of the /dev/hdb7 partition... tar -cf /mnt/abner.tar /home should do the job. If you want to compress the tar file to save space, add -z to the switches. Note that this will tar the directories and files as home/dir1, home/dir2/file1, and so on. If that's not quite what you want, then it can be tweaked a little bit. Of course, the above assumes that /dev/hdb7 is mounted at the time... - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: How to find a modem that works with Linux...
I'm just about to do a motherboard upgrade, and that will mean replacing my current modem, which is unfortunately ISA based. Anyone able to recommend options for a replacement? I know that the cheaper internal modems are very likely to be winmodems, and (possibly) unsupported, but I'm not so sure about the others. Note that even though I've heard arguments that external modems are much better than internal because you can see what's happening with the lights, I've never really had trouble with the internal one as such, and not having to find space for YAP (yet another peripheral) is a good thing. If external is better to guarantee that it works with Linux, then that's fine too. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian is neat but how do I turn the computer off?
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 08:12:35AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: poweroff just does the same as shutdown -h now for me: turns off the disks only. On mandrake 7.2 however, shutdown -h now does indeed turn off the whole computer, cold, quiet. So what have I not adjusted? You need to turn on APM support in the kernel. Presuming you are using LILO as your bootloader, adding append = apm = on to /etc/lilo.conf should do the trick. If you're running GRUB, add apm=on to the parameters of the kernel line in /etc/grub.conf - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dependancy Analysis
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 09:48:49PM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: All, I recalled a package (in woody) that would analyze your dependancies and point out unused libraries, etc. Does anyone recall what the name of that package is? deborphan? - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: utempter.h ?
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:13:55PM -0500, Ted Goodridge, Jr wrote: Which package is utempter.h in? X needs it to build xterm... Thanks in advance, None of them, according to http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages. At the bottom of that page, you'll find a facility that allows you to search the package contents for given files, and no joy in this case. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pentium optimised vs not
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:58:18AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: Hi, I'm working in what is a Mandrake shop, but relatively open minded about Debian. I'm already making inroads into getting Debian used as the distro of choice for infrastructure boxes. Thanks to FAI. Nice work Thomas. Mandrake alledgedly compile all their binaries with Pentium optimisation. I was recently asked if Debian's binaries were optimised. I didn't think they were. I was wondering, in reality, if there were any significant performance gain from doing it? Let's say I wanted to keep a local package repository build from the source packages, how trivial is it when (re) building the packages to enable Pentium optimisation? Take a look at the pentium-builder package. Once installed, it just requires setting an environment variable to force pentium optimisation during compilation. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: in case you missed this from ponik
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 10:39:02PM -0700, Brian Dessent wrote: Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: Blocking his posts to the list while the listmaster tries to help him could help -- if the listmaster has the time to do that, of course! That would save a lot of bandwidth (the offending posts *and* the discussion about them would at least not last too long), but this can't be easily done automatically [1]. It seems to me that the most common problem with mailing lists occurs when someone receives messages to an address of which they are unaware. The incident with Declan McCullagh/Politech/well.com and Fleishman-Hillard is a good example (see http://www.politechbot.com/p-03395.html for details.) To me, the best solution to this would be to customize the tagline on each outgoing message, so that it would read something like you are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED], to remove send a message _from that address_ to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the magic word. That way, the clueless would have a fighting chance at getting off the list. If they are still incapable, perhaps they will include the tagline in their quoted reply so that others can take the appropriate action. I don't know how hard or easy this would be to implement, but it sounds nontrivial. I suppose there are some privacy / archival issues, such as the desire to scrub mailing list archives of email addresses to foil spambots. But that information is available within the list emails, albeit hidden away in the full headers. Maybe better education on how to find and examine email headers in these sort of situations is in order. In any case, idiots who auto-reply to every list mail they receive until they get their way are not easily defeated by any technological solution. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: in case you missed this from ponik
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:15:27PM -0700, ben wrote: allegedly the last email from ponik the slovakian bofh It is my last mail for you. Thank everybody for help. (Problem was with forwarding every mails from debian-user@lists.debian.org to my mail with anonymous man or woman through mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know, who it is.) One more, excuse me for troubles. Lot of luck. Good bye. pono while his response to the situation was obviously ridiculous, if this statement above is true, it seems that there's some kinda bug in the list management. something similar happened in debian-kde just recently. in the interest of preventing anymore of the same in the future, anybody want to offer conjecture on how this could happen? Technically speaking, someone could subscribe to debian-user as [EMAIL PROTECTED], THEN activate forwarding from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the real address. Most email services don't confirm that a person owns the address that they're forwarding to (although some now do). As to why someone would do it .. I dunno, grudge, sick practical joke, whatever... - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: in case you missed this from ponik
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:25:14AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:15:27PM -0700, ben wrote: while his response to the situation was obviously ridiculous, if this statement above is true, it seems that there's some kinda bug in the list management. something similar happened in debian-kde just recently. in the interest of preventing anymore of the same in the future, anybody want to offer conjecture on how this could happen? There was some discussion about it on IRC, and somebody pointed out that toughguy.net is an e-mail forwarding service. If that's the case, then it's possible to point the forwarder at yourself, subscribe to a few mailing lists, and then maliciously alter the forwarding address. It's not clear what can be done about this at Debian's end other than to encourage people to post full headers whenever anything goes wrong. Has anyone contacted the abuse department of the provider of toughguy.net? According to their web site, they are anti spam, and therefore might consider action... - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: mutt and followup_to
According to mutt doco, if one sets followup_to to yes, and adds a mailing list definition eg subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED], then mutt will automagically add the Mail-Followup-To header to mails sent to that list. At what point does the header get added? When I use E to edit the message with full headers just prior to sending, I don't see it. Does it get added later, or is there something I'm missing? - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP + fetchmail + procmail
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 09:38:37PM -0400, Jason Bleazard wrote: I've found a lot of good documentation about IMAP, fetchmail and procmail individually. However, I'm trying to figure out how to make them all work together and I'm afraid I don't quite get it. I've tried some Google searches and found myself overwhelmed with information that didn't really apply to my situation. If anyone could point me toward some good documents or offer a few pointers, I'd sure appreciate it. I'm just looking to download from three POP3 accounts and serve e-mail to two users (myself and my wife), so I don't need a large capacity setup. Read further if you want to know more details of what I want to do. We have a (modest :-) home network of four machines scattered around the house, running a mix of Debian and Windows. I'm building a fifth to act as a central file server, and I'd like to put our e-mail on there as well. Our ISP has their e-mail set up with POP access for downloading and an SMTP server for sending. Pretty standard stuff. Their setup guide just tells us to configure these servers directly in Outlook or Netscape. This works okay, but it pretty well ties my e-mail to one machine, mail program and/or operating system on our network. I figure the best way to centrailize our mail is to set up an IMAP server. I know that I need fetchmail to bring our mail in from our ISP. I also know that I can use procmail to filter incoming messages to different folders (for example, I want debian-user messages to go to their own directory). It's a DSL connection that's active pretty much all the time, so I don't need to worry about triggering it manually. I can just let it grab stuff every so often. Unfortunately, I can't grasp how to get everything working together. Does fetchmail automagically filter things through procmail once the latter is set up? How do I get procmail to play nice with IMAP folders? Does it matter if I use mbox or maildir format? AFAIK the standard way to pass mail to procmail is via .forward which is heeded by local MDA. A line such as |/usr/local/bin/procmail should do the trick. I don't know a lot about IMAP servers, but it depends on how they implement their mail storage. At a guess, mbox format might play nice with procmail. Also, I'm not sure how to set up exim, or if there's another alternative that would be better suited for what I want to do. I've noticed that if I get any mail from cron it sits in my local mailbox on each machine, so I get the new mail notice when I log in to that machine. It would be nice if all the machines on the network could send stuff to my central IMAP inbox. Should be possible via a .forward or similar Do I need to really worry about remote mail routing, or should I just tell my mail client to connect directly to my ISP's SMTP server (the way it is now)? With only two users, I can't really think of a reason I'd need to send mail internally other than messages from cron, and they don't use my mail client anyway. Our ISP gives us up to 6 e-mail accounts. One thing I'd like to do is set up one or more of them so that any mail sent to that address will be forwarded to both of us. My thinking is to create a dummy user account that receives the e-mail from the special address, then that account's procmail settings forward the message to both of our regular accounts. I want two copies, not just a single IMAP inbox that we both access (then we get questions like did you read that? Can I delete it?) I'd be doing something pretty close to that, fetchmail to a special user account, then .forward from that account to the other two normal accounts. The reason I want to use procmail is I'm hoping once I get that set up, I can then do some intelligent filtering on messages. Some things should go to me, some things to my wife, and some things to both of us. The trick will be to avoid duplication of effort. Hopefully you can find a way to do some common filtering that applies to all your mail, and then apply specific filtering to your mail individually. Others might have some ideas on this... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modules at boot time
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:33:55PM -0400, Kapil Khosla wrote: Hi, I got my sound card to work by doing modprobe trident modprobe sound but I have to do this everytime at boot time. I also did update-modules expecting that it will modify the .conf file and I will be all set but that doesnt seem to be the case, How should I proceed from here, Thanks Kapil Please set your mailer/editor linewrap from 68-75 chars. 72 is a good default. You have a couple of options ... You could run modconf(same utility as runs during the Debian install), which will then write the changes permanently for you. Or just manually edit /etc/modules and add those two lines (trident and sound). More detailed info on how it all works can apparently be found in /usr/share/doc/modutils - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Monitoring CPU usage of a process
You've probably already thought of this, but would a simple shell script do the trick... eg while [ true ] do ps aux | grep [s]omeprocess somelogfile sleep 60; done Note that the using the square brackets around the first letter of the process name is just a neat trick to stop the grep process itself from being picked up in the output. - Chris On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:23:13PM -0700, Adar Dembo wrote: Won't gkrellm require X? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show gkrellm Package: gkrellm Priority: optional Section: x11 ... Depends: gdk-imlib1, libc6 (= 2.2.4-4), libglib1.2 (= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (= 1.2.10-4), xlibs ( 4.1.0) ... Like I said, I have no GUI, this is a completely console-based system. No X, no KDE, no GNOME, nothing. Thanks for the suggestion, however. -Adar Dembo - Original Message - From: David Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adar Dembo [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU usage of a process Hello, Try gkrellm. Regards, David. On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 09:32, Adar Dembo wrote: I have some processes whose cpu usage I would like to monitor, and pipe into a file. As far as I know, top can't monitor a single process and send its cpu usage into a file, so I'm wondering what other programs might do this. This is a testing installation, on a computer without any GUI or anything sophisticated like that. Any help is greatly appreciated. -Adar Dembo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restore CD image equiv.
Try SystemImager (google for it) - Chris - Original Message - From: Chapman, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:00 AM Subject: Restore CD image equiv. Hi, I would like to know if anyone has something that will work for debian in the following scenario. I build a server with Debian on it as well as a filter (url) and squid for caching. I ship the box. The customer has a hardware issue and replaces bad drive etc. Then needs to restore to the factory defaults. How could I distribute a cd that installs the os and needed packages without the user needing to know linux at all. Much like a Ghost image or DriveImage.??? Any ideas? -matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recommended approach for installing Woody
What's the recommended approach for installing Woody these days? Is is still best to install a minimal Potato then dist-upgrade, or is there a better way. - Chris __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com
Re: FW: Setting up a bunch of boxen at a small school.
whole bunch of stuff snipped Can you name me a single OSS app that can do what Norton does?? Can you name me a single OSS app that can take images of entire hard drivers, or various parts, and send them over the network on the fly?? Can you name me a single OSS app that can multicast to an entire network, there by speeding the time it takes to create computer setups?? Can you name me a single OSS app that can use just about every networking card out there, provided that it has dos drivers?? (99% of all NICs have dos drivers). Can you name me a single OSS app that works on MORE than just UNIX? (windows, 9x, 2000/XP, AtheOS, et al) Actually, SystemImager does most of the above http://systemimager.sourceforge.net - Chris Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Don't understand Unix timestamps
Hi all, I'm a bit confused about Unix timestamps on files. In particular, I want to know what the timestamp on an 'ls -l' or a 'find . -ls' means. On a different but related note, what is the easiest combination of commands to find A) A list of files in a given directory that have been accessed in the last 24 hours B) The total disk usage by the given file list A) - Chris Kenrick Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
RE: How to get a list of minimal Potato packages
What's your specific need or goal? There *are* micro-GNU/Linux distributions out there fitting various goals. Tom's Root/Boot and the new LNX-BBC project are probably two of the best and best known. My goal is to rebuild some servers that are running Woody via Potato. The servers are at the moment running lots of unnecessary crud (installed on top of base), so I needed to derive a list of base packages so I can work out what extra needs installing. Fortunately, Karsten's magic command line suggestion should solve it I think. - Chris Kenrick Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
apt-get without (direct) internet connection?
I have two boxes here, a Debian woody box, not internet connected and a Windows NT box, internet connected. It's not an option to connect the Debian box to the net, but it is an option to connect it to the NT box via a null modem cable... So what I am asking is, how can I get apt to not download anything, including for apt-get update and just print out the download locations? I tried using the --print-uris and -s options, but it still wanted to download the package list files. Up til now I've just been manually downloading packages via the Debian web page links, but there has to be a better way. - Chris Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Is debian-user-digest working? (reposted without rich text and disclaimer)
Sorry about the previous post .. I forgot to turn off RTF and the disclaimer got added automatically by the mail server. Anyway, here goes again... subscribed to debian-user-digest yesterday morning, and the confirmation process went fine. However I haven't received any digests. Is debian-user-digest broken, or is there a problem (mail gateway issue?) on my end? Note that debian-user mails get through to me fine. - Chris Kenrick Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: Next up....Sound..was Re: Next up...printing
Thanks all for the help. CUPS got me fixed right up. Now I'll be trying to configure sound. I have a soundblaster AWE32 sound card. I configured the sound into my kernel during installation. dmesg output: Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996 SB 4.13 detected OK (220) sb: Interrupt test on IRQ7 failed - Probable IRQ conflict I know my sound card used to be IRQ5 in w98. How do I change it in Linux. I am running debian 2.2.18pre21 . any help would be appreciated. I have already read more how-to's and man pages without much success. Thanks, lorens The config file you are looking for is probably either in a file within /etc/modutils or /etc/isapnp.conf. I can't remember offhand whether the installer uses isapnp or not. Incidentally, that output you posted looks like a normal Soundblaster driver. Theres actually a separate driver for AWE based cards. More details are in the SoundBlaster-AWE how to (or something like that), if you haven't come across that yet. Having said that, my own AWE64 card seems to not work when I use the AWE driver, but fine under the normal one. It should only make a difference if you are using some of the more advanced features of your soundcard (like wavetable playback). - Chris _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Getting modules.conf to load sound at startup
I've managed to get sound working on an SB16 sound card (manually modprobing from the command line works), but I'm having trouble trying to get it to load at bootup. Yes, I did run update-modules after each change... but after reboot no sound drivers are present according to lsmod, and dmesg shows no sound-related messages. Must be some nuance I'm missing here... /etc/modutils/sb looks as follows... options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 alias sound sb /etc/modules.conf is: ### This file is automatically generated by update-modules # # Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add # anything please take a look at the files in /etc/modutils and read # the manpage for update-modules. # ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/0keep # DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE! # This file is not marked as conffile to make sure if you upgrade modutils # it will be restored in case some modifications have been made. # # The keep command is necessary to prevent insmod and friends from ignoring # the builtin defaults of a path-statement is encountered. Until all other # packages use the new `add path'-statement this keep-statement is essential # to keep your system working keep ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/0keep ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/aliases # Aliases to tell insmod/modprobe which modules to use # Uncomment the network protocols you don't want loaded: # alias net-pf-1 off# Unix # alias net-pf-2 off# IPv4 # alias net-pf-3 off# Amateur Radio AX.25 # alias net-pf-4 off# IPX # alias net-pf-5 off# DDP / appletalk # alias net-pf-6 off# Amateur Radio NET/ROM # alias net-pf-9 off# X.25 # alias net-pf-10 off # IPv6 # alias net-pf-11 off # ROSE / Amateur Radio X.25 PLP # alias net-pf-19 off # Acorn Econet alias char-major-10-130 softdog alias char-major-10-175 agpgart alias char-major-81 bttv alias char-major-108ppp_generic alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate # Crypto modules (see http://www.kerneli.org/) alias loop-xfer-gen-0 loop_gen alias loop-xfer-3 loop_fish2 alias loop-xfer-gen-10 loop_gen alias cipher-2 des alias cipher-3 fish2 alias cipher-4 blowfish alias cipher-6 idea alias cipher-7 serp6f alias cipher-8 mars6 alias cipher-11 rc62 alias cipher-15 dfc2 alias cipher-16 rijndael alias cipher-17 rc5 ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/aliases ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/eepro options eepro io=0x210 irq=10 ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/eepro ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/paths # This file contains a list of paths that modprobe should scan, # beside the once that are compiled into the modutils tools # themselves. # This used to be quite a list, but upstream merged some Debian patches # so we currently don't need to do anything here ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/paths ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/sb options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 alias sound sb ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/sb ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/setserial # # This is what I wanted to do, but logger is in /usr/bin, which isn't loaded # when the module is first loaded into the kernel at boot time! # #post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial start | logger -p daemon.info -t set serial-module reload #pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial stop | logger -p daemon.info -t setser ial-module uload post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial modload /dev/null 2 /dev/null pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial modsave /dev/null 2 /dev/null ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/setserial ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386 alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc alias char-major-10-144 nvram alias binfmt-0064 binfmt_aout alias char-major-10-135 rtc ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: apt: http vs. ftp?
Re: apt: http vs. ftp? Er, no it isn't. http is faster and better in all cases where there is not a proxy involved. why would http be faster? how much faster you mean? and what makes it better? AFAIK they are about equally good/fast for purpose of file transfer... Presumably the level of overhead that is added to the download by the protocol itself is less for http. This makes me curious .. why would a hypertext transfer protocol have less overhead on file transfers for one designed for transferring files? - Chris
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #704
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #704Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1763925 Did anyone else notice this bit? I had a quick look at the web page, and basically its a pyramid scheme where you get money for signing people up. From the web page: TheMail.com will pay you $0.0025 for each new email read by a referral. TheMail.com will pay you $0.0005 for each new email read by an indirect referral. At first glance this may seem very low and not worth it, but believe me it adds up very quickly! If you have just a few hundred persons in your downline you stand to make about $20 - $30 a month. With a little time and effort $200 - $300 a month is very attainable Looks to me like they were/are trying to get people to join up and thus make money out of them. Explains the blank messages, anyway... - Chris
Re: coping with a high-volume mailing list (like this one)?
Title: Re: coping with a high-volume mailing list (like this one)? I would assume that if you didn't want to leave the mail on the remote server you'd just use fetchmail to download it, although, I *think* gnus has it's own software to download the mail if that's what you want. You can still use fetchmail to get the mail even if you _do_ want to leave it on the IMAP server (can't remember the switch offhand). Although what the original poster _might_ have meant by disconnected mode is that the client only connects to the IMAP server when it wants to do something (send/check mail), and is disconnected otherwise. Maybe some clients keep the IMAP session up all the time? - Chris
Re: Backup packages
Title: Re: Backup packages You could also try the package mirrordir or similar. apt-cache search mirror or apt-cache search backup should give you a good shortlist... :) - Chris On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 11:26:33AM +, Lee Elliott wrote: Hello List, I have several HDDs on my system and use one of them for on-line backups. I was about to start writing a script that I could execute periodically via cron to 1. copy nominated files that have been modified and 2. copy new/modified files in nominated directories to this on-line backup space, when it occurred to me that someone has probably already done it. Does anyone know of any .deb packages that will give me this functionality? TIA LeeE-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- russ
Re: module for usb support
module for usb supportI have a scanner HP5200c connected to a usb port, invisible from debian, which makes me suspect that there is some module for usb that I have not installed. does any one know which? USB is not properly supported in Linux until the 2.4 kernel (the one that still hasn't been officially deemed 'stable'. This gives you two options a) Run a 2.4 series kernel b) Run a 2.2 series kernel with a patch applied to add USB support. The good news is the HP5200C is listed as working in USB mode under linux. Have a surf around http://linux-usb.org and its links to find all the information you should need. - Chris PS: Let us know how you go, I would certainly be interested because I have the same scanner and haven't yet got around to setting it up under Linux :)
Re: How to enable my Linux network for W98 machines?
OT?: How to enable my Linux network for W98 machines?Does someone have a hint on how to set up W98 machines to work in my (small) Linux (eth-based, 100Mbps) network. One Linux box is used as a gateway, the others have their traffic routed using ipchains. Setting up the ipchains rule and the gateway entry in the othe boxes Linux is sufficient. DNS addresses are given in resolv.conf. 1. Which are the corresponding steps in W98? 2. Giving the IP address, gateway address and the host identity of the IP network driver entries for the W98 box I have been able to ftp to the linux box(es). Which steps are necessary to connect to the Internet via the gateway, from W98. Do I have to install bind for DNS services via named? Not sure about this stuff. Probably good to read the Firewall and NAT/IP masquerading howtos (there may be even more applicable ones). There's even been articles on this very topic on Linux web sites, so a web search might be useful. 3. Since I can ftp to my Linux boxes, if the service was enabled I could log in to Linux from W98, using eg telnet, right? Is it possible to do the reverse, i.e. login to the W98 box(es) from Linux box(es), for example to use remote control tools? Are there any open source versions of such tools (not netbus/backorifice?) and SSH servers/clients available? Presuming your Linux boxen are not command line only, then you could try VNC. It's source is available and both client and servers are available across a variety of platforms. I have heard that its possible to use it over SSH, but you might need to do some digging to work out how. 4. For file and printer sharing do I have to install Samba? yes :). Samba howto and docs in /usr/doc/samba are your friend. 5. How to enable automatic dial up for pppd, when traffic is present on the other machines? A dial-up ISDN connection is used for this. I have tried diald but did not like it (too long tineouts before releasing the connection). I don't know for sure, but I would have thought that diald had configurable timeouts? 6. Anything else to think of? That should get you started, anyway :) - Chris
Re: old NIC
Re: old NICOn Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 06:27:40PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Hey guys. I just tossed an older Cicero ISA 10 Meg NIC in my old i486 box. It says that it's ne2k compatible, but that module requires me to figure out what io address and irq it's supposed to use. Any idea how I can find that out? [EMAIL PROTECTED] followed up: try io's between 0x100 and 0x400, steps of 10 (remember this is hex) irq will probably be autodetected Hopefully the isapnp methods described in later replies will work for you. If they don't, be careful with the IRQ selection. In my experience modprobe will bomb if the IO address is wrong, but will 'work' if the IRQ is wrong. You will, however, get some weird error messages when trying to ping or whatever. So if resorting to trial and error, do the IO address first, then the IRQ (there's not too many IRQs anyway...) :) - Chris
TOT: Pointers to good introductory Linux material
One of my ex workmates has shown signs of being interested in experimenting with Linux. She is, however, quite knowledgeable about computers, programming IBM mainframes for some time. I'm planning on giving her one of the 'live CDS', probably either the Linuxcare BBC or the SUSE 7 Live file system CD (not Debian, but _very_ cool nonetheless). Thus she can use it on either her work PC or work provided home PC without reformatting (plus very safe environment .. do something bad as root, reboot, changes gone!). This leads to my question: What can I point her to in order to give her a starting point for 'investigating'? Basically anything that is likely to spark her interest in Linux as a great OS .. given her background she prefers 'hands on' style computing to GUI buried functionality. Any suggestions? - Chris PS: I don't know if I can convince her to buy/use a book, but I'll try if thats the best route :)
