Recent changes in woody broke vmware: AIO: NOT_IMPLEMENTED?
Hello. I am still using vmware 2.0.4 on a Debian woody system with kernel 2.4.18. I had a working version of vmware, and a recent 'apt-get upgrade' in the last day or two seems to have caused this error when vmware tries to restore the Win98 session: VMware Workstation PANIC: AIO: NOT_IMPLEMENTED F(566): 1081 Does anyone have an idea about what I could try to further diagnose the problem. Like the previous post regarding this problem (for VMware 3.0), I don't know to what AIO refers. Thanks. -- Syrus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent changes in woody broke vmware: AIO: NOT_IMPLEMENTED?
On 7 Apr 2002, Eric Hanchrow wrote: ..this error when vmware tries to restore the Win98 session: VMware Workstation PANIC: AIO: NOT_IMPLEMENTED F(566): 1081 Shoot. I'm having the same problem, and have no solutions. Hello Eric and other Debian users: I have a workaround for users of vmware 2.0.4 who don't want to upgrade to vmware 3.1. This is crude, and from now on vmware must be run as root (unless someone patches the old vmware for the changes to libc6). Copy a libc6 2.2.5-3 binary from somewhere. The file you need is /lib/libc-2.2.5.so. I used a woody machine that has not been upgraded in the last two days. Now, in my personal vmware directory, I made an oldlibs directory: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/vmware/oldlibs$ v total 1148 -rwxr-xr-x 1 syrus syrus 1170812 Apr 7 13:00 libc-2.2.5.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 syrus syrus 15 Apr 7 12:59 libc.so.6 - ./libc-2.2.5.so The following script, run as root (using sudo), will now run vmware: #!/bin/bash # # Preload old libc6 so vmware 2.0.4 will continue to run export LD_PRELOAD=/home/syrus/vmware/oldlibs/libc.so.6 exec /usr/local/bin/vmware -- Syrus -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus C Nemat-Nasser, PhD| Center of Excellence for Advanced Materials UCSD Department of Physics | UCSD Department of Mechanical |and Aerospace Engineering @@ | [Extension: X45119] /(P)\ - - - - /(P)\| ^^ ^ ^ ^ ^/ \ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mystery regarding rendering of ANSI colors in xterm
Hello!
Here is the mystery: When I start Xfree using gdm or kdm, in xterm, the
standard blue (used by default for directories) looks like turquoise or
light blue. However, when I use startx from a VT, the blue is dark as it
is in wterm or on the console. Does anyone here know the reason why?
I'm running an up-to-date woody installation with aa font support through
Xft. I only started using xterm in addition to wterm recently when I
enabled aa fonts, so I don't know if the anti-aliasing support is related.
The xterm colors appear to have this behavior with aa fonts as well as
with standard fixed fonts.
[Please reply directly to me as well as to the list.]
Thanks.
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Re: matlab - scilab
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Eric Richardson wrote:
Timothy J. Ford
you should try octave, it's very good.
How does this compare to Mathematica?
For a GPL symbolic algebra system, you can try Maxima. For a free (as in
beer for non-commercial use) closed source option, look at MuPaD
(http://www.mupad.de/). For a commercial product, look at Maple or
Mathematica itself. Both have native Linux versions.
Octave is nearly syntactically identical to MatLab for numerical
operations. Many matlab scripts can run as is.
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Re: No libforms0.89 - no Lyx
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Glen Snyder wrote:
Thanks to Mike for the tip that got the X4 upgrade in testing working
for me. I'm a happy camper again.
I also noticed that Lyx was removed during a recent upgrade in
testing. I tried to reinstall it but found that it requires
libforms0.89 Since Lyx is (in my opinion) one of the best document
editors around, I was wondering if anyone else had worked around this
problem. libforms0.89-bin and libforms0.89-dev are both listed in the
online list of packages, but just plain libforms0.89 is missing. I
cannot apt-get install any of the 3. Suggestions?
Thanks in advance
Glen
I worked around this problem as follows: I downloaded the source for the
debian libforms0.89 packages and built a new package. The problem is that
libforms explicitly requires xpm4g which has been subsumed into the
xfree86 packages. I had to remove the dependency in the debian/control
file and then rebuild the packages. At that point, I could reinstall
libforms. However, I use LyX quite a bit, and I wanted the latest stable
version which is 1.1.6fix1 as of today. So, I used deb-make to debianize
the latest LyX and installed that as well. Thus, I am not sure if
rebuilding libforms will solve all the dependency problems for LyX. BTW,
I'm sure this problem will be fixed within a couple days. Now that you
have reminded me, I'll write to the libforms maintainer and/or the LyX
maintainer.
Thanks. Syrus.
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Sending hard reset signals to hardware under Linux (fwd)
Hi folks. The forwarded question below is from my friend. I don't know the answer. Can anyone help me out? He's running slink. Thanks. Syrus. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:21:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Rex Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sending hard reset signals to hardware under Linux Syrus, Unfortunately, my CDR occasionally crashes when reading burned CD-ROMs from another CDR. This is highly annoying as it requires me to power down the computer. Any processes performing reads during the crash become unkillable even with -9. Is there a way to send a hardware reset (or simply to kill power) to the drive from within Linux? Thanks. --Rex
Re: LT Winmodem module (ltmodem.o)
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Andrew Whitlock wrote: I am having trouble getting the Lucent Winmodem module to work. I am running Slink (2.1r) with the 2.2.15 kernel. Here is what I enter and the result: -- insmod -f ltmodem.o (kernel mismatch info displayed, already cleared this issue by checking the archives) ltmodem.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hello Andrew, I have a Sceptre 6600 Notebook with a Lucent PCI Winmodem. I was not successful with kernel 2.2.15, so I made a 2.2.12 image and modules to try with the modem. I'm running the latest potato. I installed the Lucent module file manually in the modules directory. I put the ltinst script in /usr/local/bin, and I may have modified it to prevent delection of ltmodem.o from the modules directory. Anyway, it works. Not every time, but nearly everytime. Unfortunately, using the modem still causes occaisonaly hardware lockups, and the module has never been willing to unload. However, I have to say I'm happy. It saved me the cost and the higher power consumption of a hardware pcmcia modem. During the day I use a pcmcia ethernet adapter with the same machine. Like I said, try it with a different kernel. BTW, I added the ESS Maestro module to the 2.2.12 source tree, and I have both the sound and the modem working simultaneously--they share the same IRQ (5). It was necessary to enable serial IRQ sharing in the kernel. Good Luck. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus C Nemat-Nasser, PhD| Center of Excellence for Advanced Materials UCSD Department of Physics | UCSD Department of Mechanical [EMAIL PROTECTED] |and Aerospace Engineering
Re: Notice: GR to remove non-free support from Debian
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: Pardon me, but why do you folks think you will no longer have access to Debianized packages of this non-free software? These packages would simply have to be managed outside of the official Debian infrastructure. Note the _have to_ above. Who will do this? Who maintains those packages now? Debian is a volunteer project! Anyway, since one argument is about the cost of maintaining the archives, perhaps non-free supporters should raise money to pay Debian for hosting those archives and the bug tracking system? not have to be a commercial operation. I use LyX a lot. I also use a lot of other software packages that are not DFSG-free. However, LyX will eventually be GPL clean when it can link against GTK. Or when XForms goes DFSG-compliant. But there's already something missing. What about next year's great tool that we don't have a free replacement for? Here's a thought: users that can't figure out how to install things themselves can pay money to a consultant. If there is enough interest, they can pay a company to certify the quality of some Debian packages. If users step up to the plate, they will have options. But, why should everyone expect a free lunch? Other packages may follow suit because the developers want to be included inside Debian. Why will this change? I don't understand your question. If a developer wants her software in Debian, she might choose to write a DFSG compliant license. Also, it is likely that KDE 2.X will be included in main as well. Insider information? What makes you say this? Have the KDE people indicated they would modify the license? Since I don't actually use KDE, my information may be out of date, but: the new libQT meets DFSG requirements according to Bruce Perens. Since, KDE 2.0 is linked against the new QT libraries, it will be DFSG compliant unless there are still some questions of other license violations in the code. I don't know the details, and I'm not presently up to date on that debate. There are many types of users that depend on Debian. Most of them probably have a mixture of motives that include both the political (DFSG) and the practical (apt rules!). However, the argument that Debian should be worried about keeping all the users is not one that I personally buy. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus C Nemat-Nasser, PhD| Center of Excellence for Advanced Materials UCSD Department of Physics | UCSD Department of Mechanical [EMAIL PROTECTED] |and Aerospace Engineering
Re: Notice: GR to remove non-free support from Debian
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Peter S Galbraith wrote: There are many types of users that depend on Debian. Most of them probably have a mixture of motives that include both the political (DFSG) and the practical (apt rules!). However, the argument that Debian should be worried about keeping all the users is not one that I personally buy. I'm worried about loosing contrib, waisting _more_ time supporting some non-free or contrib software, and the explosions of badly-made and incompatible deb packages that may result. Point taken. I, however, am not worried about this at all. If the core Debian distribution is bulletproof, other distributions can choose to provide added value such as those extra packages that you might need. Although this has been debated a lot, back when Bruce Perens was running the show, there was an idea that Debian should be a completely free (as in DFSG) base than anyone could use to build other distributions, either commercial or non-commercial. That is not the Debian of today. I like today's Debian because it provides the best support for scientific computing that I have found. I have always liked Debian because of the commitment to free software. Anyway, whatever the outcome of this GR, I will still be using Debian. I won't worry about what others might do when I make up my own mind. Cheers. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus C Nemat-Nasser, PhD| Center of Excellence for Advanced Materials UCSD Department of Physics | UCSD Department of Mechanical [EMAIL PROTECTED] |and Aerospace Engineering
RE: Notice: GR to remove non-free support from Debian
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Moore, Paul wrote: From: Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] While getting rid of non-free is a noble goal, i don't feel that Debian can do it now without losing support from some parts of the Free Software community (look at the reaction over KDE, and then think of Netscape, LyX, etc etc etc) and without losing a good measure of functionality. i also question the removal of software that is open source but not DFSG free because of restrictions on commercial sale. I agree with this sentiment. Debian is by far my preferred Linux distribution, but the DFSG free or nothing attitude is a little hard-core for me. I don't see any problem with segregating non-DFSG-free stuff from the fully DFSG-free software, but rejecting it altogether from Debian does little to help. Pardon me, but why do you folks think you will no longer have access to Debianized packages of this non-free software? These packages would simply have to be managed outside of the official Debian infrastructure. It does not have to be a commercial operation. I use LyX a lot. I also use a lot of other software packages that are not DFSG-free. However, LyX will eventually be GPL clean when it can link against GTK. Other packages may follow suit because the developers want to be included inside Debian. Also, it is likely that KDE 2.X will be included in main as well. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus C Nemat-Nasser, PhD| Center of Excellence for Advanced Materials UCSD Department of Physics | UCSD Department of Mechanical [EMAIL PROTECTED] |and Aerospace Engineering
Re: Notice: GR to remove non-free support from Debian
On 8 Jun 2000, Chuan-kai Lin wrote: There is a General Resolution proposed by developer John Goerzen that is under discussion on both debian-devel and debian-project, maybe also a few others that I am not aware of. The nature of the GR is to amend the Social Contract so that Debian will stop distributing non-free packages. If the GR is passed, then Debian will no longer provide the storage, bandwidth, and bug tracking facilities for non-free packages, including acroread, blender, netscape, jdk, povray, trn, and xanim. This may be a good time to transition support for the non-free packages to an organization outside Debian. I imagine that a number of companies would jump at the chance to host the bug tracking system for Debian non-free. Think about this: With the distribution of tools such as Borland's Kylix, there may soon be a flood of non-free Linux applications. Many of these may use a shareware or demo-ware distribution strategy to maximize exposure. Also, with Debian and Debian-derived distributions becoming more popular, there should be Debianized versions of most commercial offerings. Given the fact that Mozilla will be available in main, this might be the right time for this step. I use non-free packages such as Acroread. I also use non-free software in non-Debian formats such as Mupad, Maple, and Staroffice. I have no objections whatever the outcome of this proposal. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus C Nemat-Nasser, PhD| Center of Excellence for Advanced Materials UCSD Department of Physics | UCSD Department of Mechanical [EMAIL PROTECTED] |and Aerospace Engineering
Re: Questions from a new debian user
Hi! To shut down X temporarily, you can do the following: * Switch to a virtual console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and log in as root. * Execute the command '/etc/init.d/xdm stop' or '/etc/init.d/kdm stop'. * Now, do whatever (you can even test X using 'startx' from a virtual console). * When you're ready to run xdm or kdm again, execute '/etc/init.d/xdm start' as root. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
How to define vi keys for Netscape (hjkl cursor movement)?
Hey! Does anyone here know how I can configure things so the 'hjkl' keys are the same as the left, down, up, and right arrows in Netscape? I read somewhere that this is possible, but cannot find the reference. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: [*}How to install LyX
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, debian_hurd wrote: hello everybody; i had try to install LyX from my Debian CDs, use deselect, deselect told me LyX need libforms.so.0.88, but i can't not find this in my Debian CDS.I have two Debian CDs, one is :Debian GNU/Linux slink (2.1_r4) 1/4 main binary-i386 section 1 SAM19991218 the other is Debian GNU/Linux slink (2.1_r4) 2/4 main binary-i386 section 2, contrib SAM19991218.When i use deselect, it report without non_free,non_USA,and local. any advice? thany you very much. Your CD does not include the non_free section. The libforms-0.88 package is in non-free. If you have an internet connection, then you can get the packages either automatically with apt (or dselect), or manually by ftp. To use apt, you'll need to have an appropriate sources list (/etc/apt/sources.list), e.g. long:syrus$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free deb http://conan.eecg.toronto.edu/debian slink non-US deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/ If you use apt, installing lyx will be as simple as editing your sources.list file, and then using a command like this: root$ apt-get update ; apt-get install lyx apt should take care of all the dependencies. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: need XF86Config for ThinkPad 560
On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Mike Werner wrote: Pollywog wrote: I can't seem to cook up a working XF86Config for my ThinkPad 560 this time around. On prior installs, the Debian install seemed to do this for me but it did not happen this time and without the specs, I can't seem to be able to do it. Does anyone have a working config they would share? Hi! I missed the first message, so this is just to the list. I'm including a working XF86Config for an original P120 TP560 with a 12.1 Active Matrix screen. Don't use this config for the dual scan version. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. # # XFree86 configuration for IBM ThinkPad 560 # Renaud Waldura 2/5/99 # Adapted from others, see http://www.artic.org/~dgaudet/tp560/ # Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ EndSection Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard AutoRepeat 500 5 EndSection Section Pointer ProtocolPS/2 Device /dev/mouse Emulate3Buttons Emulate3Timeout 50 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier ThinkPad VendorName IBM ModelName 560 HorizSync 25-79 VertRefresh 20-76 Modeline640x480 28.32 640 664 760 800480 491 493 525 ModeLine800x600 28.32 800 808 1024 1040 600 600 626 640 +hsync +vsync EndSection Section Device Identifier GUI VendorName Trident BoardName 9385 Option noaccel EndSection Section Device Identifier svga VendorName IBM BoardName bar Chipset generic ClockChip tgui VideoRam1024 EndSection Section Screen Driver svga Device GUI Monitor ThinkPad DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection Display Depth 8 Modes 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 32 Modes 640x400 EndSubsection EndSection Section Screen Driver VGA16 Device svga Monitor ThinkPad SubSection Display Depth 4 Modes 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection
Re: Debian GNU/Linux Supported Laptops?
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Gary Pinkerton wrote: I am a reseller of COMPAQ, HP, IBM and Toshiba laptops, and would like to know if their current products are compatible with Debian GNU/Linux ? I have been able to install Debian on several laptop models (see, for instance, http://sdss.ucsd.edu/~vaio). However, Debian is not a commercial distribution, and I doubt that Debian will ever certify installation on a specific commercial product. It is up to a company like yours to make such a certification, or for a company that packages a Debian-based commercial distribution. An example of a company that will (in theory) sell Debian pre-installed is at www.linuxlaptops.com. Basically, any computer that is compatible with the Linux kernel is also compatible with Debian. The question is really one of hardware support. Many laptops have hardware that is not Linux kernel compatible. For example, there are Winmodems that are software modems using proprietary drivers. Also, newer technologies such as USB are only supported in the unstable kernel tree at present. To find out (in general) about Linux on laptop computers, you should also look at this URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ While I wish anyone luck at building a business pre-installing Debian on laptop computers, there are going to be issues that require a high level of expertise at this point in time. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: safe to upgrade slink to potato?
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Pollywog wrote: On 27-Dec-1999 Nathan O. Siemers wrote: One apparrent success: apt-get dist-upgrade slink - potato on an old ast laptop. The kernel is actually 2.0.29 and hasn't been changed for a long time! (I still have it so I don't break my pcmcia ethernet, mostly due to laziness). I broke my pcmcia stuff and I am unable to fix it. I think it has to do with trying to install a kernel the Debian way. I will trying reinstalling a small slink system and then upgrade via ppp. If that does not work, I will have to wait for Potato CD's to be released. Could you describe the problem? I upgraded my Thinkpad 560 to potato 4 weeks ago. However, I normally network the machine with a Dlink pcmcia ethernet card which still works fine. What's broken is my ability to use a standard USR 28.8 pcmcia serial modem card. The kernel reports that the card is identified properly, the light is on, but the modem is not detected. It would be great to solve this one. BTW, I didn't know about the debian-laptop list until today. That might be the best place to discuss this. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: FrameMaker 5.5.6 for LINUX
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Phillip Deackes wrote: Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. Framemaker is running fine on my potato system. It does not seem to run over remote X, at least to a system running in 16 bit color depth. However, it certainly works under the correct set of circumstances. The problem is not with the potato libc. Also, so far the application has not crashed on me. That's surprising for any beta. I'm just not sure I need it for anything since this one cannot edit postscript files. Syrus, could you please tell us how you got FrameMaker running? I have a potato system, upgraded weekely using apt-get. FrameMaker will not run at all, I get no error messages, I just get the $ prompt back again. Am I perhaps missing some vital library? I added my license OK as described in the text which came back with the license number. Hi Phillip, I sent Paul Seelig the output from 'dpkg -l' on my system that is running FrameMaker. I'll attach it here as well since it's a small file. I didn't do anything special, but here is the output from ldd: syrus$ ldd maker5X.exe libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40019000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40036000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40112000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) I've heard that FM will only run in 8-bit or 24-bit color. I've got XFREE86 running in 32 bit mode which I think is equivalent to true 24bit color. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- rc a2ps4.10.3-1 Anything to PostScript converter and pretty- ii aalib1 1.2-25 ascii art library ii acroread4.0-1 Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Form ii adduser 3.11.1 Add users and groups to the system. ii ae 962-26 Anthony's Editor -- a tiny full-screen edito ii afterstep 1.6.10-1 A window manager with the NEXTSTEP look and ii anacron 2.1-5 a cron-like program that doesn't go by time ii apmd3.0beta9-2 Utilities for Advanced Power Management (APM ii apt 0.3.15 Advanced front-end for dpkg ii asclock 2.0.11-3 A clock designed with the NeXTStep look ii asmodem 0.60-2 AfterStep modem monitor ii at 3.1.8-7.1 Delayed job execution and batch processing rc auctex 9.9p-12An integrated environment for writing TeX/La ii autoconf2.13-14automatic configure script builder ii automake1.4-6 A tool for generating GNU Standards-complian ii base-files 2.1.11 Debian Base System Miscellaneous Files ii base-passwd 3.1.5 Debian Base System Password/Group Files ii bash2.03-2 The GNU Bourne Again SHell ii bc 1.05a-9The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator la ii biff0.10-3 a mail notification tool ii bin86 0.14.9-2 16-bit assembler and loader ii binutils2.9.5.0.22-1 The GNU assembler, linker and binary utiliti ii bison 1.28-3 A parser generator that is compatible with Y ii bootpc 0.64-1 bootp client ii bsdmainutils4.6More utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite. ii bsdutils2.10d-2Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite. ii bzip2 0.9.5d-2 A high-quality block-sorting file compressor ii cdda2wav1.8a30-1 Creates WAV files from audio cd's ii cddb2.5-6 CD DataBase support tools ii cdparanoia 3a9.7-1An audio extraction tool for sampling CDs. ii cdtool 2.1.5-4some text-based commands for managing a CD ii chos0.84-6 Easy Boot loader with a Boot-Menu ii cmucl 2.4.17 The CMUCL lisp compiler and development syst ii cmucl-safe 2.4.17 A lisp core that is compiled with safe optio rc communicator-sm 4.5-1 Popular World-Wide-Web browser software (ful ii console-data1999.08.29-8 Keymaps, fonts, charset maps, fallback table ii cpio2.4.2-29 GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of ii cpp 2.95.2-3 The GNU C preprocessor. rc cracklib2 2.7-5 A pro-active password checker library ii cron3.0pl1-55 management of regular background processing ii cvs 1.10.7-2.2 Concurrent Versions System ii dc 1.05a-9The GNU dc arbitrary precision
Re: SSH deb for slink
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, M.K.Pai wrote: Guys, I can't find a deb for the slink ssh on the debian site. Any pointers ? Point to: http://nonus.debian.org Since ssh implements strong crypto, it cannot be distributed from inside the US. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Mailing list archives search always fails?
Hello all, Has anyone else noticed that lately the mailing list archive search function always seems to fail? I've been getting the file not found error on every search, it seems. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Foiltex not available in potato tetex distibutions?
Hello! I recently upgraded several machines to potato, but just noticed to my dismay that foiltex is no longer installed. Has it been removed from the tetex packages? Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Foiltex not available in potato tetex distibutions?
On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: Hello! I recently upgraded several machines to potato, but just noticed to my dismay that foiltex is no longer installed. Has it been removed from the tetex packages? Thanks. Syrus. I can answer my own question: Foiltex has a you must not sell this clause in its license which has prompted the tetex maintainer (not the Debian maintainer, but the maintainer of tetex in general) to remove Foiltex from tetex 1.0. Since version 1.0 of tetex is in potato, there is no more Foiltex in Debian. For now, I will download foiltex from ctan, but I suppose someone might eventually package it in non-free as an add-on to the main TeX distributions. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
apt mirror list for Debian KDE packages?
Hi all, Can someone point me to a list of working mirrors for the slink and potato kde distributions? Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Can someone explain this kernel panic error message? [fwd]
Hello folks. This is not Debian-specific, but my brother-in-law got a kernel panic while booting of a Linux installation CD: I got the following booting off of a CD while installing on a new machine. VFS: Cannot open root device 08:21 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:21 Have you ever seen a kernel panic booting off of a CD. It's just a dell machine like a lot of my others. It's got a SCSI 2940 but I don't know that this should cause problems. Any ideas? Bios Setup? I don't know what to tell him. I don't have any SCSI devices on my machines. He's probably using Red Hat although I've suggested Debian several times, of course. :-) Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
What is the status of GNOME for slink.
Hello all. Recently, the GNOME project stopped mirroring the debianized packages of GNOME because GNOME has been included in the main Debian distribution. This is fine for potato users. However, I have Gnumeric 0.25 installed on my slink machine. I would like to use 0.38 because of many improvements. Compiling the GNOME packages myself is not a realistic option. Are there any updated GNOME packages available for slink? If so, where do I point my apt sources.list? Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: A GnuPG package for stable?
On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote: I have gpg as well as a few other potato packages compiled for slink at http://www.pobox.com/~epg/debian -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric, Be careful about distribution of gpg by anonymous access. The US government still prohits the export of strong crypto. I realize that gpg is freely available from international sources, but re-export in a modified form (i.e. deb package) may still be considered a crime if they want to make a point. Disclaimer: IANAL (I am not a lawyer). Cheers. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Got TP-560 to work in 800x600 256 colors! (with Debian 2.1 included X)
On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, John Miskinis wrote: Many thanks to all those who helped. I am now up and running 2.1 debian, using full 800x600 and 256 colors on my Thinkpad 560. I am using the X that comes with 2.1, and it's fine. I'm glad you got it working. If possible, you'll want to get 16bit color depth--things will look a lot better. I'll give you my XF86Config if you want, but I've got the TFT active display so it may not help. Cheers. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: IBM Thinkpad 560 - Nothing but problems installing (I got CDs today)
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, John Miskinis wrote: Hi, Hi again John. I installed Debian 2.1 to my Thinkpad 560 using a Dlink ethernet adapter on a T1 line. The pcmcia-cs package included in the base install automagically detected the card and set it to eth0. No matter what I do, it won't see my CDROM during the install. It says Oh, I see you have a /dev/cdrom, but it doesn't see the darn thing. I have the H45 QuickCD PCMCIA version. When I boot up from /hda5 the base system comes up, and the darn CD spins up for a couple seconds (?) and mentioned that tray error. I can't understand how it sees the CD. During the install, the PCMCIA config fails regarding an /sbin/cardmgr error. /dev/cdrom is usually just a symbolic link. It sounds like a problem with detection and configuration of the interface card. I suggest trying the other drive with the SCSI card. Then, you'll need to look at the messages from pcmcia-cs (either using 'dmesg' or 'cat /var/log/messages') to see if the drive is identified and given a device address. I think the /dev/cdrom link is probably a red herring. As always, good luck. Cheers. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: IBM Thinkpad 560, tried JVC drive, can't install BUT SEEN AT BOOTUP
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, John Miskinis wrote: Again, I could not use the CDROM for install. I configured just about all of the SCSI device drivers, and PCMCIA controller. Now when I boot, I see some info about the JVC drive though: It mentions the aha152x adapter BIOS test passes, detected 1 contoller It Identifies the JVC correctly as an XR-W2040. IRQ=3 SCSI ID=7 Detected SCSI CD-ROM at scsi0 channel0 ID3 LUN0 I can't mount /dev/cdrom (or even /dev/hda1) complains about no fstab entry. The peanut linux I had running would at least allow me to mount C: by mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /DOS. I doubt that /dev/cdrom automagically points to the scsi0 device. I'm guessing that you need to try /dev/scd0 or whatever the first scsi device is called. (I don't use scsi interfaces on my machines.) Is there a way to mount /dev/hda1 and /dev/cdrom without an fstab entry? If not, what is the syntax of the fstab entry I should add? Unless there is some new bug in the base system (which I doubt), you should be able to mount /dev/hda1 with the following command: mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt Of course, if you failed to install the vfat module or at least the msdos filesystem module, then you're going to have a problem. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: IBM Thinkpad 560 install problem (debian 1.3)
On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, John Miskinis wrote: Hello, I have been reading much information about the Thinkpad 560 and linux, but have not come across anything that relates to MY problem. Have you read URL=http://www.netsurf.org/~renaud/unix/linux-tp560.html which is Debian specific? This is my first attempt to install linux ever. I only have a 1.3 debian distribution on CD, from Boot magazine, from 1996. It may be that this version will never run on my system, or perhaps someone out there can help me. The kernel is 2.0.29_2.0.29-7 It's pretty brutal to do your first ever install with a three-year-old distribution on a laptop! I suggest using Debian 2.1, the current stable release. I don't believe that kernel 2.0.29 has the Thinkpad 560 APM patch. Also, make sure you know what hardware you're dealing with--is it an original Thinkpad 560, or is it a 560E, 560X, etc? When I boot from the rescue disk to perform the install, I type linux floppy=thinkpad at the boot: prompt. I then see: The 560 does not require the floppy=thinkpad option. In fact, that option will probably make the floppy fail after the first disk is read. Also, you'll need the tecra disks instead of the standard install disks (I'm not sure if this was true for Debian 1.3, but it is true for 2.0 and beyond for certain.) Any and all help is greatly appreciated, I really want to run linux! I have a 2.1G drive, that I partitioned with DOS fdisk, to have 1G, 900M, and 112M. I hope to leave Windows95 on the 1G (for now) put linux on the 900M, and it's swap on the 112M, if that makes sense. Since the original 560 can have a maximum of 40M RAM, 112M swap is overkill. I use 40M RAM and 40M swap on my 560 which is running Debian 2.1 with kernel 2.2.5 (from proposed updates) and the pcmcia packages from the unstable release custom compiled. You would probably want to use the default kernel (2.0.36?) which should work fine with the 560. Debian is not the easiest distribution to install for a beginner, and the Thinkpad 560 is definitely not the easiest machine to install it on. It's going to take some patience and determination. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: laptop: my own kernels don't work
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Pollywog wrote: I installed Slink on a ThinkPad 560 and all is well, but if I install my own kernel source in /usr/src/linux and compile it, this kernel will not work; the machine goes into endless reboots even though I used 'make bzImage'. It will boot from floppy and also from hard drive when I use the kernel built as part of the Debian installation. I am using kernel 2.0.36 on the laptop. Any ideas what the problem might be? I did not use kernel package, I compiled this kernel the old fashioned way. Hi Andrew, I recently installed slink on a Thinkpad 560 too. I'm using kernel 2.2.5 however, I think your problem could just be the bzImage. Have you tried using a zImage instead? Many laptops have a problem loading the bzImage compressed kernels--I believe that the tecra boot disk uses a zImage. Anyway, I use my own customized kernel 2.2.5 with pcmcia-modules and pcmcia-cs packages compiled from the pcmcia-source package in potato. That's because the version of pcmcia-source in slink does not support the 2.2.x kernels. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: xawtv (no /dev/video)
On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, NatePuri wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 04:48:21AM +0200, Bernhard Rieder wrote: ln -s /dev/video0 /dev/video I don't have /dev/video0 either. Did you compile your kernel with support for your video grabber card? Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: xawtv (no /dev/video)
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, NatePuri wrote: On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 10:19:40PM -0700, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, NatePuri wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 04:48:21AM +0200, Bernhard Rieder wrote: ln -s /dev/video0 /dev/video I don't have /dev/video0 either. Did you compile your kernel with support for your video grabber card? I compiled the kernel to have support of the bttv driver as a module. Have you checked to see that the module is loaded and the card identified? After that, I think that the correct device file may be /dev/bttv0 rather than /dev/video0. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Can I change the menu font size in a statically linked Motif app?
Hello everyone. I'm using Xmgr 4.1.2 statically linked against Motif. I use it because it is more stable than Grace AFAIK. The problem is that the menu and dialog font size is too big to insure that windows will fit on my 800x600 laptop display. Does anyone have a solution to this problem? Can I change the menu font size, or is that strictly a compile time option? Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Debian 2.1 on a Sony Vaio Z505SX -- Success
Hello Folks. I have succeeded in a functional installation of Debian 2.1 on a Vaio z505sx. I have also created a web page about it: http://sdss.ucsd.edu/~vaio I believe someone was asking about this model a few weeks ago. I got this done in the last week. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: vim 5.4m BETA packages
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Vim 5.4 went into beta recently with the release of vim 5.4m. To celebrate this fact I have packaged this version so you can try it without having to build it yourself. I have applied all the official patches that have been released so far, which makes the actual versionnumber 5.4m.17. You can get the packages at http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/debian/stuff/ . The packages follow the same split as the older vim packages: vim - standard vim, GTK frontend vim-perl- vim with perl interpreter, GTK frontend vim-python - vim with python interpreter, GTK frontend vim-tcl - vim with tcl interpreter, GTK frontend vim-tiny- minimal vim, console only vim-rt - runtime files, hightly recommended for all of the above I might create a vim-xaw later, which will be the same as vim but with an Xaw frontend. If you want this please let me know, otherwise I might just take the easy way out and skip it:). Thanks Wichert! I tried to install your version on a slink system (with slink GNOME stuff installed) and it seg faulted. I'm compiling the packages from your source tree now to see if that will work. (Note that vim-rt refused to install due to incompatible dependencies on my slink/GNOME.slink system.) I'm guessing it will work with the recompile--I've been waiting for the gtk interface for vim for a while now. Thanks again for providing a debianized version. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Mattrox Millenium card
On Fri, 28 May 1999, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: I fear it isn't. The G200 is driven by the SVGA X server, and to the best of my knowledge this one doesn't use any acceleration, like e.g. the S3 server. The SVGA server automatically detects supported cards and does have acceleration. A new card like the G200 will only be accelerated on the newer servers (e.g. 3.3.3.x). The Matrox cards are accelerated under the SVGA server (such as my older Millenium AGP). Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: ~/.xawtv file anyone?... Help...
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Paul Nathan Puri wrote: Can anyone attach a working ~/.xawtv file? I'm having a hell of a time figuring out which options I need to make it work correctly... I live in the US (CA) and can't figure out what TV type I use, etc. Help... Thanks... NatePuri Certified Law Student Debian GNU/Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law Sacramento, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] .xawtv file between the lines: mixer=cd norm=ntsc capture=overlay freqtab=ntsc-cable fullscreen=640x480 I'm using a locally compiled xawtv-2.37. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Exim Filter
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Chris Hoover wrote: I'm working on setting up my exim filter to filter all my mail and have run into a couple of questions for which I have not found an answer. 1. Is it possible to have the filter check all incoming fields w/o specifically spelling them out? (something similar to procmails ^TO) 2. How can I have exim dump any mail that passes through all my filters into a special misc folder? I don't want any mail to end up in my /var/spool/mail/user file. Hi Chris, I can answer most of this because I just switched from procmail to exim filtering. You can do everything you want to do, except you'll have to check with someone (or read the docs) on how to do the misc. dumping step. Here's my .forward which tells exim to filter all my mailing lists into their own folders (the first line is required to tell exim that the .forward is an exim-specific filter specification): # Exim filter # take care of mailing list debian-user if $message_headers contains debian-user then save $home/mail/IN.debian-user finish endif # take care of mailing list lyx-users if $message_headers contains lyx-users then save $home/mail/IN.lyx finish endif # deliver personal mail to local account syrus if personal then deliver syrus finish endif if error_message then finish endif So, as you see, $message_headers refers to all the message headers as you asked. The last section on personal mail may be able to do what you want if you simple redirect it to a file using a save command instead of the deliver command, but I'm new at this so I'm not confident. Cheers. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Corel : GNOME vs KDE
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Sami Dalouche wrote: I don't understand why Corel has chosen KDE instead of Gnome. KDE is not free or not fully free. It's worse than Gnome : - it takes more memory - it's not GTK ( I'm a GTk fan) - I will have less apps because Gnome is newer and has, I think, already a lot of apps compared to KDE which is older. - I don't remember other reasons but GNOME is greater ! Perhaps we can leave the GNOME vs. KDE flames on slashdot. However, I am using GNOME because I want to. Howevere, I acknowledge that KDE is relatively stable now and more mature. Definitely the right choice for Corel at this time. KDE is fully free if Corel defines their OS distribution as including QT runtime. Debian simply won't do that because of DFSG, but there's nothing legally wrong with a company like Corel doing so. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: RedHat need not apply
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Jack A Walker wrote: I thought caldera was corel's attempt to commercialize linux. This seems like quite a change for corel. I wonder what, if anything, it means for caldera. Caldera is a completely different company. They have next to nothing to do with Corel. (I know this because I followed them early on.) Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: LyX 1.0 for slink?
On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Jim Foltz wrote: Is there a LyX 1.0 for slink? If so, can I download it from somewhere? It didn't make it in slink, but it's in potato. happy lyx-ing. I don't want to run the unstable tree at this time, thanks. I'll just compile it myself. Not necessary. You can install the lyx binary only from potato. You don't need to install anything else. (This is not allways true, but it is for the latest lyx 1.0.1 deb in potato.) Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Discussion with Pine developers Debian Issues
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Terry Gray wrote: [snip] One difference between sharing patch files vs. redistributing the resulting binaries is that the ultimate user or site administrator will tend to be more conscious of what is standard Pine vs. modified Pine if they go through the process of applying patches themselves. Perhaps the more fundamental point is that without the requirement to get permission before redistributing modified binaries, UW essentially gives up all claim of change control. I take your question to imply that our position would be more consistent if we required everyone under all circumstances to ask permission before they could modify Pine in any way, but that isn't where we wanted to be on the change control continuum. Again, we want to enable end-users and site administrators to make changes necessary for their environment without any hassle about permissions... while at the same time retaining some modicum of change control over Pine as it flows throughout cyberspace. (Some people consider this desire to be unreasonable; we do not.) You are, of course, free to do this. However, because of this policy, I have suggested that our local users switch to mutt, which is a suitable alternative that does not require our administrators to recompile every update themselves. It is your choice as to whether you want Debian to ship your program. I would suggest that you release a version that complies with the DFSG, but I am confident that free alternatives such as mutt will prove to be satisfactory in either case. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Using xawtv
On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Ramiel Givergis wrote: and when I run xawtv from xterm logged in as root or any other user I get: home:~# xawtv this is xawtv-2.19 sh: v4l-conf: command not found v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway DGA: server=1.0, include=1.0 VidMode: server=0.8, include=0.8 available video mode(s): 1024x768 The app-defaults file is not correctly installed. Your fault (core dumped) I did a `find / -name v43-conf` and it returned nothing just as locate and whereis didn't return anything prior to using find If you're using the .deb version of xawtv, then I suggest you deinstall it and download the latest source version. The debian package is old and broken. Then, read the documentation and run program--if you want to run xawtv as a normal user, the v43-conf (or whatever it's called) wants to be installed suid root. The docs will tell you how to avoid the app-defaults error. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
RE: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, David Nelson wrote: Do you reckon it would work with my ATI-TV card? And will xawtv support PAL/SECAM, etc? When I was looking at TV cards, the ATI was not supported, and there were no plans to support it due to NDA requirements, I believe. PAL/SECAM is an option for xawtv, so I think the answer is yes to the second question. I would suggest looking at the bttv web page to see if there is any mention of the ATI--you probably mean the All-in-wonder right? http://www.thp.uni-koeln.de/~rjkm/linux/bttv.html [bttv] http://roadrunner.swansea.uk.linux.org/v4l.shtml [video4linux] Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: GNOME 1.0 .deb package?
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, William R Pentney wrote: So, does anyone know if and where I could find GNOME 1.0 as a Debian package, by any chance? I could recompile the source, but I already have indeed possible. Are you using apt? Good. Then, put the following line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file (in addition to the existing lines): deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink \ unstable main Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: GNOME 1.0 .deb package?
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Rick Macdonald wrote: On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: So, does anyone know if and where I could find GNOME 1.0 as a Debian package, by any chance? I could recompile the source, but I already have indeed possible. Are you using apt? Good. Then, put the following line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file (in addition to the existing lines): deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink \ unstable main What's the difference between the above and: deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main What should one use for a slink system? Good point. The one I gave is for slink. The other is for potato. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: GNOME 1.0 .deb package?
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Rick Macdonald wrote: On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink \ unstable main What's the difference between the above and: deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main What should one use for a slink system? Good point. The one I gave is for slink. The other is for potato. Ah. Now that I have that fixed, what's the proper place for enlightenment 0.15 debs for slink? The following contains dependencies on glibg6 =2.1 so I think it must be for potato: deb http://www.debian.org/~bma enlightenment/ The enlightenment debs are in the slink GNOME staging area as well. Everything should be fine. It's working for me as my default desktop environment for work. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Ramiel Givergis wrote: I've noticed in the newer kernels there is now support for TV tuners and FM tuner I have one windows machine at home among many which I'm trying to transition to Debian but it has one card that I don't think will work with Debian. It's my Hauppauge WinTV card it's a TV/Radio tuner which works under all the winblows versions I have not seen any docs on this card for linux does anyone know if it's possible to use this under linux? has anyone actualy attempted this? I've got a Hauppauge WinTV card now working under Debian with kernel 2.2.1. I can't give details now because I'm at work (different machine). The trick was to get the correct hardware addressing so both sound and video would work. I got the correct settings from an old archived email on this list. I compiled the kernel with the appropriate video4linux support for my card, and then I custom compiled a recent version of xawtv. The Debian package appears to be broken. Anyway, using xawtv, I can watch TV in a window. It works. It's cool. No more need to reboot to Windows since I've decided to stop using Quicken. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Andrei Ivanov wrote: I have one windows machine at home among many which I'm trying to transition to Debian but it has one card that I don't think will work with Debian. It's my Hauppauge WinTV card it's a TV/Radio tuner which works under all the winblows versions Just because it works with Windows doesnt guarantee it's work with Linux. It's a WinTV card. Basicly, logic suggests it's a Win-hardware, and therefor you can not use it with Linux. Andrew But, this logic doesn't apply to the Hauppauge cards. They use the BT848 chipset which was the first chipset supported under Linux using the bttv driver. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: TrueType Fonts
On Sun, 28 Mar 1999, Doug Dine wrote: Has anyone had success using TrueType fonts in X? I installed the TrueType font server but only received a message that my font database was corrupt. Hi Doug. It works for me. Here's what I did: (1) Install xfstt package (slink installation -- someone said it didn't work with the hamm version xfstt package). (2) Copy .ttf files from somewhere to /usr/share/fonts/truetype. (3) Make sure xfstt is running (should be via the init script a.k.a. /etc/init.d/xfstt start should be executed as root or during system startup). (4) As root, enter the directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype and type the command xfstt --sync. (5) Put the following line in your .xinitrc or .xsession file: xset fp+ unix/:7101 I don't recommend putting a FontPath line in your XF86Config as some suggest because this can cause X to fail if xfstt is not running and using the specified port. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: GNOME 1.0
On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious, how's the .debs of GNOME v1.0 coming? I'm using it for work (keeping my old desktop config around as a backup of course). I like it fine. To try it out, install slink (Debian 2.1) and then add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file: deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink \ unstable main Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: TrueType Fonts
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Doug Dine wrote: Thank you. We're on a roll here now. Only question now is, how do I start xfstt upon boot? That should happen automagically via the script in /etc/init.d. That is to say, the installation of the xfstt deb file should have enabled the automatic startup of xfstt at boot time. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: fortran compilier recommendations
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a large application currently running on Dec Alpha 500/500 machines which we are investigating porting to a Linux platform. It consist of a SmallTalk engine that uses C and Fortran routines to do it's actual work. While all the Fortran compiles with g77/egcs we have some issues with optimization greater than -O0. This code is legacy code originally written on VMS and earlier platforms. We have tried the Portland Group's compiler with only slightly more success. So finally the question: Does any one have a recommendation for a third party compiler for Fortran 77 that has been throughly rung out by the user community? Hi. Are you porting to x86 or Alpha? I've been so happy with eg77 (Debian's g77) on PPro and PII machines that I was able to avoid trying those other choices (Portland, Absoft, etc.). The optimization up to level 3 (-O3) has worked just fine on the Intel platform in my experience, and most f77 programs port without any changes. Of course, Digital's f77 with the -O4 switch produces faster code per MHz on our 600MHz alpha runing DUNIX. Anyway, sorry I can't be of any help, but I'll be following this thread to see if anything interesting comes up. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Gnome 1.0 debs?
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: The staging area is not a secret, it is publically available, too, for developers and testers. Check the dtk-gnome mailling list archiv if you are interested (or devel-announce). Hi Marcus, Do you intend to develop installation instructions for slink users who wish to run GNOME 1.x.x without upgrading the rest of their systems to potato? [I realize that this would be secondary to getting a working group of packages.] I suspect that quite a few programs outside of GNOME would need to be upgraded as well unless gtklib 1.2 and such can coexist with the older versions in slink. Any thoughts? Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Changing IP address: which config files?
Hi! Which files do I neet to edit when changing my hostname and IP address? My machine had a static IP and a T1 connection, and I need to swap the address with another. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Upgrade Instructions for Rex -- Slink?
Hi Folks. I just found a neglected machine that is still running Rex (Debian 1.3) and I'd like to upgrade it to Slink. Are there specific instructions available somewhere in the Debian archives? Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: istaling xfstt - and tt fonts patch for X11
On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Micha Feigin wrote: I managed to start xfstt from inside x using: as root - xfstt --sync (do i need this every time ?) then as normal user: xfstt xset +fp unix/:7100 (I get an error - bad path #48 if i try this before i start xfstt) question is how do i automate the stuff? I'm using xfstt. For me, based on the default debian scripts, the command is xset fp+ unix/:7101 in my .xinitrc file. Debian's default port is 7101 instead of 7100 when using the /etc/init.d/xfstt script to start xfstt. Anyway, on reboot xfstt should start automagically from that script. The first time, I suggest you type (as root): /etc/init.d/xfstt stop /etc/init.d/xfstt start Then, put the xset fp+... line into your X initiallization (such as .xinitrc as I do). That will make everything automatic. You only need to run xfstt --sync when you add new fonts to the truetype directory. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
RE: slashdot poll [Suggestions for improving the installation process]
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, M.C. Vernon wrote: What do people like about RH? Is it worth trying to nick parts of their install? I found it a pain - It wouldn't let me just install individual packages, though I wonder whether some of the modconf stuff could be left out for the initial install. This is an interesting suggestion. Since the kernel on the install floppy has most of the support that a beginner would initially need, we could have a novice install path where the user chooses from a brief list of compound options such as: (1) Basic install with support for serial devices (modems and mice). (2) Basic install with support for serial devices and PS2 mice. (I'm sure that these options would need to be customized for each architecture, but I only have experience with debian X86.) The install script would then install an assumed set of modules to complement the needs of this novice user, bypassing the manual module configuration script. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: What Debian means?
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Eliezer Figueroa wrote: I want to know why our linux is called DEBIAN. Hey, I'm sure I'm not the first to answer but: Debian comes from Deb and Ian as in Debra and Ian Murdock who were co-founders of the project AFAIK. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: HP DeskJets
On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Alec Smith wrote: I use my DeskJet 870Cse with Linux, with good results. A comparable model on the market today would be roughly the 895Cse, so long as you've got the parallel version. Once you have the printer, just use magicfilter's dj550 filter and edit /etc/printcap as you would for any other printer. Does it do a good job with color PS, or just with text? How about printing web pages or pdf files from acroread? Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: 3D software
On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, M.C. Vernon wrote: I want a nice (preferably simple) package to created 3D-scenes (spaceships and the like, so based on geometrical shapes), ideally with flashy raytracing and the like. Any suggestions? Processor,memory and video card no object :) Check out http://linux3d.netpedia.net/ for Linux 3D resources. The easiest IMHO software for geometric creation is AC3D. It is shareware (you must get the licensed version to save your files). The cost is $40 payable over the net. There are others such as Blender and Moonlight Creator. They are free of cost. The latter is open source as well and there is a version that is Debianized. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: where exactly is qt1.42. I cant seem to find it. NFM
Your email was formatted such that pine doesn't like it. However, I did read the subject. qt1.42 is in potato (a.k.a. unstable). Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!!!!!!!!!!
On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, rod peters wrote: I can't find qt1.42 anywhere. What directory under potato is it in? Is that only a partial file name? Is it in an archive file? If I wasn't wearin' my good socks I'd smack my computer up side the head with my wiffle bat. I'm gettin kinda desperate. Please, help me out. Just give me the last known url for this file. In the meantime, I will continue my endless search. It's not in main due to the licence. It's in non-free. Try the libs directory. You may also be interested in the doc and dev packages which are both in non-free/devel for some reason. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Mozilla Help!!!
On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Rod Person wrote: Hey All, I've just spent 5 1/2 hours trying to get ppp and Mozilla up and running. I have successfully gotten ppp to hold the connection, but I can't get Mozilla to load any pages. If I type an address such as www.debian.org I get the error that the DNS does not exist. It doesn't even seem to try and find it. If I type in an address such as 130.149.28.10 it searches, connects, waits for data and give me the 404 error page from my ISP. At the bottom of that page is a hyperlink nack to my ISP's home. if I click on that I get the no DNS name error pop up box. I've read all the ppp readmes and man pages but I can't find a thing on this error. I also got a SOCKET error pop up from Mozilla. it said I may need to set an environmental variable to correct this. Where and how would I do that?? I'm lost...PLEASE HELP!! I'm about the bang my head of my keyboard!! thanks First things first. Given that you have a ppp connection, let's see if you can access a DNS. Try using ping or traceroute to check. Does your /etc/resolv.conf file have valid DNS entries? Here's what mine looks like: nameserver 128.54.16.2 nameserver 132.239.69.26 nameserver 132.239.254.201 nameserver 128.54.16.3 search ucsd.edu [Note, there are no tabs in the actual file.] Then, check that you can ping a known IP address, e.g. ping 128.54.16.2. Finally, I suggest trying a simple, stable browser like lynx to make sure everything is working. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Mozilla Help!!!
On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Rod Person wrote: I still can't get Mozilla to do anything. Once my ppp is up I cant use ftp but that is it. ifconfig reports that I am connected to my isp and returns the address, but still Are you saying that ftp does or doesn't work? To what host can you ftp? Can you use a name such as ftp.debian.org whereas www.debian.org fails? We need to find out whether your problem is a PPP problem or a DNS problem. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Netscape True Type Fonts
On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Sean Johnson wrote: I have TTF support in X-Windows now (via xfstt), but I cannot get Netscape to use them (which was the primary reason for getting them in the first place). I was wondering if anyone has any luck with getting Netscape to recognize the TTFs. It works fine. Are you sure the fonts are recognized by X? You can verify using the following: xlsfonts | grep ttf. If you don't see any fonts, then you need to read the docs for xfstt. (I had to put the following in my .xinitrc to get it working: xset fp+ unix/:7101. Note that you should not put the fontpath for the ttf's into your XF86Config because it can cause X to fail if an error occurs. Anyway, once the fonts were available under X, I had to quit Netscape and restart. Then the fonts were available. (Using Communicator 4.5 128bit.) Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Mozilla Help!!!
On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Rod Person wrote: Took a break from this for awhile now I'm back. I can use ftp and I ftp to 130.149.28.10 but in Mozilla ftp.debian.org still doesn't work. Good. That means PPP is happy. However, if you can't execute ftp ftp.debian.org at the command line, then you still have a DNS problem that is external to Mozilla. Once you can resolve URL's at the shell prompt, I suspect that lynx will work fine. (Text-based, I know, but it is a functional browser.) Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: WP_8 find no X11R5
On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all in LinuxLand I've tried to install WordPerfect 8 No success. The installation program from WP tells me, that it's based on kernel 2 (that's ok) and X11R5 (not ok). I use X11R6 and when I try to launch the program, it says that a file in the R5 directory is missing. What do I do? Install a R5 (how?) or telling the WP to use the R6 directory (how?) Install libc5 and xlib6 (the libc5 version). They are available as debian packages. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: gnome .deb install probs
The stuff you downloaded from ftp.gnome.org was old (however those debs are frozen in slink). However, libglib and libgtk 1.1.13 is new. GNOME is rapidly evolving alpha software. You should not try to use the slink debs if you want to run the latest stuff. Instead, you may look at the newest packages in potato and mix and match to get something working. (Or compile balsa yourself with the potato libraries.) On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Graham Ashton wrote: I've downloaded libgnome0_0.30-1_i386.deb from ftp.gnome.org, and have just tried installing it on my hamm box. I got a load of dependency problems with dpkg, even for things that are installed. I installed libglib1.1.13_1.1.13-1_i386.deb libgtk1.1.13_1.1.13-1_i386.deb without any problem. When trying to install libgnome0, dpkg complains that I don't have (amongst other things) the right versions of libglib and libgtk! I think I do, and am a little confused. humbug:root dpkg -i libgnome0_0.30-1_i386.deb Selecting previously deselected package libgnome0. (Reading database ... 39220 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libgnome0 (from libgnome0_0.30-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libgnome0: libgnome0 depends on gdk-imlib1 (= 1.7); however: Package gdk-imlib1 is not installed. libgnome0 depends on libglib1.1 (= 1.1.3-1); however: Package libglib1.1 is not installed. libgnome0 depends on libgtk1.1 (= 1:1.1.2-1); however: Package libgtk1.1 is not installed. libgnome0 depends on liborbit0 (= 0.3.0-1); however: Package liborbit0 is not installed. libgnome0 depends on libungif3g (= 3.0-2) | giflib3g (= 3.0-5.2); however: Package libungif3g is not installed. Version of giflib3g on system is 3.0-5. dpkg: error processing libgnome0 (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: libgnome0 All I really want to do is to get enough of gnome installed to let me use the balsa mail client. Do I need to install lots of packages from slink or potato to get everything I need? Would I be better off just upgrading to slink right now anyway? I'm really not liking this very much, and am starting to think it's too hard... hello tarball, my old friend... Can anybody point me in the right direction (i.e. should I upgrade the whole box, or should I just go and get specific packages from another distribution?) -- Graham -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Wordperfect 8.0 install
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Brian Morgan wrote: Could someone walk me through how to install the new wp8 suite? I've downloaded the guilg00.gz file, and now I'm not sure what to do. I tried installing this on another machine before, with no luck. I seem to remember a flood of questions about the wp install script and problems it was having early on. I don't want to proceed without some direction here. Any suggestions? Any package dependencies I need to be aware of? I'm running slink, X is running (using icewm). I had no problems, and I used the WP install script(s) as I recall. First, I suggest that you install in /usr/local/wp. Then, /usr/local/wp/bin (or whatever the bin directory is) must be in your path. In order to run wp, you need the libc5 runtime libraries. I already have these installed because I use Maple VR4 for Linux as well. With the proper libc5 support installed you should have no major problems. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Does debian include KDE?
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, duon0035 wrote: Does debian linux include KDE? If it doesn't, then does debian plan to include KDE? and When? I read on Debian webpage that Debian 2.1 will be released in Jan '99. It's mid-Jan now, how come I can't find Debian 2.1 any where on-line? The current QT and KDE licenses prevent Debian from distributing KDE due to the requirements of the DFSG. However, the next major release of QT will have a license that probably complies with the DFSG. At that time, it is likely that KDE will be included in the distribution. Until then, some folks have compiled a fairly complete set of KDE packages that will run with debian slink (a.k.a. pre2.1, a.k.a. frozen). This leads us to the clarification about 2.1. It has not been released, but it is quite stable IMO and I've been running it for 4+ months. It is currently in deep freeze pending the official release. I don't remember the URL for the most recent KDE debs. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Lilo corrupted double-spaced Win95 drive
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Kent West wrote: Upon reboot, lilo came up and gave me my options of linux or Win95, and linux starts just fine. Win95 however does a repeating Loading Windows, LILO, Loading Windows, LILO . When I try to mount the Win partition in Linux, it says there's no msdos type or vfat type partitions. About this time I start remembering that maybe the Win drive is double-spaced. So I boot off a Win95 floppy and try to access the C: drive and get an Invalid media type error. I run Win95's fdisk and it reports the partition as UNKNOWN. Great, I think, just great! Does anyone know how I can recover my Win95 partition so my family can have their toy back? I don't know anything about double space, but the commercial program called Partition Magic has been a lifesaver at times for me on all kinds of systems. Perhaps it recognizes double spaced partitions? Anyway, you could also look at the available disk recovery utilities from Peter Norton. I can't think of an OSS or freeware alternative off the top of my head. [You mean you didn't back up your disk? Tsk tsk... :-)] Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: Unable to delete files with strange ownership and permissions.
Hi folks. A search of the archives suggests to me that the following message was never posted: On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: Hello All. I'm running hamm (unstable) on a PC at home, and I somehow ended up with some apparently corrupted files. I am unable to figure out how to delete them, and dpkg pukes when trying to upgrade the relevant packages. Here's are some examples (using 'ls -l'): br-xr-Sr-- 1 2769529285 51, 46 Mar 28 2031 ChangeLog.gz cr-SrwS-wT 1 2826525203 99, 114 May 9 2031 INSTALL.gz cr-sr-sr-- 1 2853126988104, 46 Aug 16 2027 changelog.Debian.gz c--SrwS-wT 1 1182426207114, 115 Jan 15 2034 copyright I don't understand the permissions or the ownership and group attributes. I cannot do anything with them using rm, chown, or chgrp. Please help. And, please cc to me as I am not currently subscribed to debian-user. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3C509 acting strangely on Win95/Debian dual boot system
On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, Christopher Judd wrote: ... When rebooting into Linux from W95 everything works great. YESS! When rebooting into W95 from Linux, I have to power cycle the machine to get it to recognize my 3C509 ethernet card. I've been doing this for a couple of months now...I'm just now getting tired of this behavior. So far my network admins have suggested that I run their configuration managed linux kernel 2.0.23 or something using loadlin. Didn't work. I'm put LILO back in place. Didn't work. Went back to my 2.0.29 and now 2.0.30 debian kernel. Still doesn't work. ... I have the same problem here. If you solve it please let me know. Hi folks. I've seen this kind of thing before. When possible, the best approach has seemed to be to use the DOS utility to set the 3COM card such that it is _not_ in plug 'n pray mode. Then, force Win '95 to accept a static declaration of the hardware address, interupt, etc. (Note that Windoze often does not want to do this.) If your card is not presently in plug 'n pray mode, then I have no useful suggestion at this time. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mouse/X compatibility problem
On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, Larry Gariepy wrote: [snip] I am a new Debian user. With a great deal of help from a friend (read: he installed and debugged it for me), I now have Debian Linux 1.3.1 on my Pentium 233. It is set up as a dual boot machine, with Win95. My problem is that X Windows doesn't seem to recognize my mouse, though it works under Win95, and you even get a mouse cursor when logged in to a vt100 terminal. The mouse is just a standard Microsoft serial mouse. [snip] Under Win '95, can you go to the system resouce control pannel and check to see which port the mouse is attached to? This should probably be com1 or com2. This will confirm the hardware port for the device (/dev/ttyS0 is for com1, and /dev/ttyS1 is for com2). If by some chance, your mouse is a MS ps2 port mouse, you will need to use a kernel that is compiled with ps2 mouse support. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Richard G. Roberto wrote: [snip] PROPOSAL FOR TERM LIMITS I propose that all elected posts in the Debian organization be subject to the following term limits: [snip] So, Richard. Are you ready to commit a lot of your private time to becoming project leader for a year? Will you step to the plate and pledge away a significant portion of your life to Debian? If not, then I suggest that you retract your proposal. I don't have the time or expertise required to do Bruce's job. Do you? When and if there is a viable candidate that shows the same dedication and resposibility to the project as Bruce, then I will gladly support him or her. Until then, a proposal like this is meaningless IMHO. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo and hamm distributions
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote: When a new version of a program is released, is a copy compiled to bo and another for hamm? .. or is bo left without any updates? The reason I ask is I thinking of re-installing the bo distribution because I can barely compile anything using hamm. -- probably libc6 releated, but it still doesn't work. For the most part, everything is compiled only for hamm. Many (most?) developers don't have access to machines for compiling libc5-based stuff easily anymore, and bo is supposed to be frozen except for security and severe bugfix releases. This is correct. However, it is quite easy to compile hamm packages on a bo machine by recompiling from the source--usually there is no hacking of the debian package files required to do this. However, people without a high-bandwidth net connection will probably not want to do this. Also, some people are not comfortable compiling software, or they have insufficient hardware resources to install all the necessary development libraries. I suggest that for people who fall into these categories who also require a more up to date version of package XXX should post to debian-user and request a libc5-compiled version of package XXX. I have already compiled libc5 versions of the latest Octave and Octave-doc packages since I need to use these on a reliable platform for my work. I am happy to make these packages available to anyone by anonymous FTP upon request (with absolutely no guarantee that they will run on your machine). Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem installing debian
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Hasibul Haque wrote: I have a quantum fireball ST6 IDE hardrive with Pentium II 233 cpu. I have 1 primary partion with win95 and 2 logical drives - one of them is empty for linux install the other one has windows nt. I am able to boot the rescue floppy but at the menu when I choose 'partition hard disk' I am getting a message thats saying hard drive could not be detected and to check cables or change driver settings at boot: prompt or load a driver. Thanks. Hmmm... I've never had a problem detecting an IDE drive, but I've never seen a Pentium II system up close. Dale, do you have any ideas? Could there be a driver incompatibility with the new Pentium II motherboards? I have not yet heard any examples of people running Linux on Pentium II systems. Hasib, I suggest that you search through the newsgroups comp.os.linux.hardware and/or comp.os.linux.setup, comp.os.linux.misc for references to Pentium II systems, and see if there is any useful info. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bypassing xdm?
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Tim Bell wrote: I've configured my machine to boot into xdm. When confronted with the xdm login screen, how can I get to a text virtual console? I've had some success with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, followed shortly aftewards by Alt-F?, but this doesn't always work, and the last time I tried it I managed to hang the machine. There must be a proper way to do this... only I can't find it. Please try Ctrl-Alt-F1 from the xdm login screen (or from a running xsession). Of course, you can normally use F1 through F5. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: killing xdm
On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Paul Miller wrote: How can I kill xdm? I tried finding the pid id and it wasn't listed in 'ps -a' and I don't know how to scroll in 'top'... how? The normal way to stop xdm is /etc/init.d/xdm stop at super user prompt. If this doesn't work, then follow the advice from Dale. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem installing debian
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Hasibul Haque wrote: debian cannot detect my hard drive I'm asked to load a driver or command at boot: how am I supposed to do that? or should I try to install redhat ? any suggestions would be welcome What kind of hard drive do you have? Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Packages
On Thu, 25 Sep 1997, Mark Bellamy wrote: I'm downloading from ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/stable/Packages It says there is no such directory. Packages is a file, not a directory. It contains a listing with descriptions of the individual Debian packages. To install the system, do as Alex suggests and first install the base system. Then you can install the rest of the system in a few different ways. For example, you could use the ftp access method of dselect. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Compiling TWIN
On Sun, 21 Sep 1997, Paul Serice wrote: Has anyone compiled TWIN successfully on a Debian system? I've followed the instructions (I'm pretty sure), but I keep getting errors that ldconfig couldn't find libtwin during the make process because it is trying to link with the library. However, I can't link with the library until I create it, and I can't create the library, according to the make file, until I link it. So it appears to me to be a catch-22. I compiled it successfully on a 1.3.1 system. I downloaded the latest sources and did a ./configure and a make depend; make. Everything worked. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Long FAT filenames and Linux ?
On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Michael Legart wrote: You probably also have msdos fs support which is operating by default. Have you tried specifying the vfat type in your mount command? Yea, I did have msdos fs support, but I disabled that - compiled and installed the kernel again. But it still doesn't work ! I have selected vfat fs support in the configuration. I have a 2.0.30 kernel. If I write mount -t vfat ... I just get the error-message, that the kernel doesn't support vfat! Is there a way to see which options the kernel is compiled with ? I'm suspecting that there is something incomplete in your kernel preparation. If you are compiling vfat support as a module, you should enable loadable module support, and you should uncomment AUTO in your /etc/modules file. Also, you must be sure to make and install the modules in addition to your kernel image. If you compile your kernel by hand like me, you would do the following: make xconfig make dep ; make clean make zImage make modules make modules_install Also, as someone suggested, I would enable both msdos and vfat fs support in your kernel. Good Luck. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Long FAT filenames and Linux ?
On Sun, 7 Sep 1997, Michael Legart wrote: Just wondering if it is possible so make Linux read/write long filenames and a FAT partition ? (FAT16 - with 95win) I have the VFAT module installed, but it doesn't seem to work... You probably also have msdos fs support which is operating by default. Have you tried specifying the vfat type in your mount command? mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt The above command should give you the behavior that you want. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Where's my mouse?
On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Keith Beattie wrote: I'm doing a vanilla install of Debian 1.3.1 and I'm having trouble configuring my mouse. The problem (I believe) first comes in the Install phase of dselect when gpm is being installed The gpm install uses /dev/ttyS0 as the default device for my mouse. I've tried taking stabs at all four ttyS? but no luck. What's the strategy for determining which device is your mouse? What kind of mouse do you have? (What brand? What does is the adapter shaped like, etc?) Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Install problem
On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Volker Bauer wrote: just recieved Debian 1.3.1 and tried to install. I have done it with loadlin under dos and got no problems until dselect. I don't know how to go further. If I try to use access and then cdrom, it is asked for a block device and I really didn't find a clue what to put in there. If I tried mounted and gave in the path to the cd's I got always the response that dev/cdrom/stable 386.gz (or something similar) is not founded there. I checked the cd's for such a file but didn't found it. Any ideas? Thanks a lot in advance. If you have an IDE cdrom, it is probably /dev/hdb, /dev/hdc, or /dev/hdd. The /dev/cdrom device is normally a symbolic link that you would add once you know where your cdrom lives. Do you know what kind of cdrom you have? Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Where's my mouse?
On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Kirk Hogenson wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Keith Beattie wrote: It's a two-button Logitech. (It has MicroSoft printed on it but I think that's just for marketing.) It's got a small round adaptor that plugs into the back of the tower. I assume this all means it's a serial device on the bus, right? It doesn't sound like a serial device from your description of the plug, it sounds more like a PS/2 mouse. Try using /dev/psaux as your mouse device. Right. And, make sure you use a kernel that has PS/2 mouse support compiled in. Preferably, you would not compile it as a module. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Green monitor functions
On 26 Aug 1997, Michael Harnois wrote: Randy Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While running X, Debian blanks my screen just fine. However, what I'd like to do is to convince Debian to handle the green power-saving functions of my video system. This functions well under Win95 and OS/2, but for some reason doesn't seem to work with Debian. It took me forever to figure this out. I have xset s noblank xset s noexpose xset dpms 3600 7200 0 in ~/.xsession. Check the docs for xset to see why. (I believe it requires a recent version.) Just entering xset will give you a list of options. The above syntax seems to be correct for all the xservers as of XFREE3.3, but before that it varied. In addition, one used to add the line 'option power_saver' to the XF86Config file (in the correct device section). This is no longer necessary as far as I can tell, unless you are using XFREE3.x, where x3. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Dave Cinege and Paul Wade
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: [snip] As you can see, Dave hasn't removed his sorry excuse for dialog from debian-user. What do you suggest I do, guys? I suggest that you ask Pete Templin to remove Dave from the debian-user mailing list. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Paul Wade wrote: Good point, John. It seems that the sugar-coated explanation still doesn't taste very good. Hey, users who are listening - Debian 1.3.3 is out but it's still called 1.3.1 so nobody who buys those CD sets will feel inferior? We need someone with a Ph.D. in policy analysis to convince us that it really does taste good. Why don't we just call it Debian GNU/Linux 1.3.1.your_lucky_number? Sorry friend, but this is false. 1.3.1 is out. The few changes that have been made to it were done so in error. I believe that resulted from Guy's absense. But, mistakes will be made occaisionally in any case. None of the packages in bo-updates have been released into the official distribution. In case you haven't noticed, we've been trying to implement some new quality control procedures with 1.3, and it's up to the testing manager, Dale, to approve the packages before they go into the main distribution. This is the first time we've tried this, and it looks like bo-updates was the wrong name for the updates that are not yet approved by the testing group. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
This ugly policy discussion on debian-user.
Hello Dave and Paul. It's nice that you have all this energy available to carry on this discussion, but I've grown quite weary of reading you posts. Thus, I'm probably going to take Dave's advice, from one of his early messages, and make some new entries in my kill file. Before I do kill one or more addresses, I'd like to say a few things. (1) If you want to affect Debian policy decisions, you need to convince the developers, not the users. The user list is busy enough as it is. Why don't you try the debian-devel or debian-policy mailing lists? (2) The developers voted for our Social Contract. We seem to be proceeding within its guidelines. If you two can't stand what's happening, you can feel free to start your own distribution based on the current snapshot of Debian GNU/Linux. (3) The change in the revision name system is truly minor. You guys have just plain blown it up into something to yell about. We will get through the small amount of confusion, and everything will be fine, with or without all the ranting and raving. (4) Regarding the idea of incorporation. You guys missed the boat on that one. The idea was brought up more than a year ago, and was discussed from time to time on the devel list. If you guys wanted a voice in policy, you should have been active on the devel mailing list. If you, Dave, keep bagging on the developers, I doubt that any of them will listen to any points that you might have. You seem to think that yelling at a group of volunteers will get them to do more work for you. Syrus. P.S. You guys make me :-( -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Show me the money Re: Donations to Debian
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Paul Wade wrote: [snip] Then they should have been reversed. If they were done in error, where was the warning message to prevent people from using the 'bad' Debian? Once again, our regular archive maintainer, who is not paid for his time, is on vacation. You sure want to treat us like a commercial corporation, dont' you: Where's the immediate service? Come on guys, you better fix mistakes in the archive before they happen! What, you have to work for a living too? No excuse! You better make me a perfect distribution now! Syrus. P.S. I'm serious, just like they used to tell me on the playground in pre-school. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Proposal: User list forking.
Hello fellow Debian users. I propose that we fork the debian-user list such that there are one or two lists whose content is limited to technical questions and answers. If we had a debian-help list, we could have a rule to keep political/policy discussions off the list. This could be accomplished by giving N warnings to an individual who is misposting, followed by removal from the list. This would allow users who just want to get things done to avoid the occaisional flame war over policy, etc. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: about bo-updates ...
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Carlo U. Segre wrote: I have been following the discussion of the past few days with some interest. One thing that strikes me about the change in the organization of the stable tree is that I have seen no simple instructions on how to make use of the updates in the bo-updates driectory since they are not linked to a version of the stable tree. There has been some mention of using dpkg-ftp but one still has to tell dselect where to find the information about the packages and if they are not in the stable tree, they will not be found. The problem is the same if one (as I do, with my own mirror) use the nfs method. Could someone please explain the new methods? I think we are in limbo on this issue, meaning that it is not resolved. I think that the archive maintainer, the distribution manager, and the testing manager need to decide on a policy and then report it clearly. In addition, the packages in bo-updates are for use at the user's discretion--they have not been formally accepted as updates to the stable distribution AFAIK. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Calamity setting up X! Blank screen!
On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Charles Blair wrote: I have been using Debian on several machines for over a year. I tried to install X on one machine in what was apparently the wrong way. I created a config file using xconfig, and have been bringing in a bunch of packages, unpacking them with dpkg -i. It has seemed that, whenever I started the system, it has tried to launch X, failed, and left me with an apparently normally functioning non-X system. Then the real disaster! I brought in (via modem) a package of base fonts for X. In the middle of depackaging this, the screen went black. Control-alt-backspace has no effect, nor does typing shutdown. Control-alt-del reboots the machine and brings up Lilo. The msdos option seems to work just as it did before. If I try linux, it goes through preliminary messages, types ``starting xdm'' and then I get a blank screen. I have also tried using the boot floppy I created when I installed the system without X a year ago. This again leads to a blank screen. At this point, I am mainly concerned with just getting back the non-X functionality of the machine. Thanks for any help! I suggest booting with a rescue floppy, mounting your hard drive, and editing /mnt/etc/X11/config. Replace start-xdm with no-start-xdm, and replace xdm-start-server with no-xdm-start-server. This should prevent xdm from starting up. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Calamity setting up X! Blank screen!
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Joost Kooij wrote: [snip] To stop xdm from starting after boot, type linux single at lilo's boot: prompt. Alternatively (in case I'm wrong about what's run in single user mode) type linux emergency to bypass nearly all the startup scripts in /etc/init.d/ resp. /etc/rc.* Then edit /etc/X11/config as prescribed. Oops. You're right Joost. This would be easier and probably faster. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: formatting the hard drive
On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro wrote: Hello Debians. Hi. I just purchased a CD with Debian on it and I wanted to install it on my 486DX-2. It has 8 MB of RAM and two HD of 220 MB each. From what I read, it should be just enough for Linux to run. Can anyone confirm/suggest anything with a system this low? I can confirm that it is enough, but that depends on what you want to run on the machine. I suggest that you start with the default packages minus everything related to news such as inews and inn. You probably can install X, but I would keep it light--only one Xserver, and only the minimum in fonts and documentation. Do not install any dev packages unless and until you know you need them. I also have a P133 with 16MB of ram. I originally installed Linux on this machine, but I now need it for CAD. I would like to remove Linux from it but I have been unable via standard methods (ie: bootable floppy to format HD). Any suggestions on how I can format the hard drive so that I can installed (*yikes*) Windows '95? If you can get your hands on some DOS system floppies, you can do the following: boot into DOS, run FDISK.EXE and delete all the partitions on the HD. Rewrite the partition table with one DOS FAT partition. Reboot again so the partition table will be read, and then use the command FORMAT C:. You will need to have a DOS floppy with FDISK and FORMAT. At this point, or even after you simply use FDISK, you should be able to use a Win '95 install floppy for the OEM version or whatever setup disk you might have (DOS, Win 3.1, etc.). There are other radical approaches if you don't want to save any data on your HD. Syrus. P.S. I've been told that you can install DOS, create a file called win386.bin in C:\, and then the Win '95 upgrade CD will install Win '95 with no Win 3.1 present. I've never tried this though, so I don't know if it works. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: formatting the hard drive
On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro wrote: On This Day, In The Year Of Our Lord 19 Aug 97 at 22:15. Re: HELP: formatting the hard drive by Syrus Nemat-Nasser: I can confirm that it is enough, but that depends on what you want to run on the machine. I suggest that you start with the default packages minus everything related to news such as inews and inn. You probably can install X, but I would keep it light--only one Xserver, and only the minimum in fonts and documentation. Do not install any dev packages unless and until you know you need them. It's going to be a single user machine so I guess I'll install the minimal. I like X-Windows but I am afraid it would be impossible with only 8 MB of ram, so I'll stick with the multiple logins =) 8MB is enough to run X. I've done it before. You should use a light window manager such as fvwm (not fvwm2). You should also have at least 20MB of swap, I'd say. Otherwise, just run without X. Of course, it's more fun to run X with 32MB of RAM. :-) Cheers. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
