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What do you guys think about Apple? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/199926.44903...@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Yum!
Do you know what's really great? Cutting a lemon in half, squeezing the juice, and then filling the glass with orange juice. Mm-mmm! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/59256.70384...@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com
How 'bout that privacy policy?
Ain't it crazy, or what? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/478644.14537...@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Apt-get a life
That's what my brother said once: Apt-get a life. Funny, isn't it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/575301.17738...@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Ever make your own fstab from scratch?
You really gotta know your hardware! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/846392.19621...@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Food poisoning
One time I ate slimy ham. Man was I sick! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/346528.72292...@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com
What kind of music do you like?
Classical, folk, country, metal... what is it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/359178.70379...@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com
xkcd
I'm sure you guys all like it, right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/43395.72289...@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Tv card
How do you set up a tv card in Mythbuntu? Does anyone know? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/453404.83733...@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Joke
Yo Debian, I'm happy for you, and I'ma gonna let you finish, but Ubuntu is the greatest operating system of all time! Or not! What do you think lol? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51990.51896...@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Share your favorite yo mama joke
I'll start: You mamma's so fat, when the cop saw her on the street corner, he said Break it up, you two! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/812233.23120...@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Esperanto
Why is there an esperanto language Debian mailing list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/779707.80017...@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Re: Joke
I, for one, thought it was funny. --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Joke To: Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:34 AM On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com wrote: Yo Debian, I'm happy for you, and I'ma gonna let you finish, but Ubuntu is the greatest operating system of all time! Or not! What do you think lol? Please, stop spamming this list Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/82870.77422...@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Re: Joke
Ok. What I SHOULD have said was: Yo Ubuntu, I'm happy for you, and I'ma gonna let you finish. But DEBIAN is the greatest operating system of all time! --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Joke To: Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:36 AM I, for one, thought it was funny. --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Joke To: Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:34 AM On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com wrote: Yo Debian, I'm happy for you, and I'ma gonna let you finish, but Ubuntu is the greatest operating system of all time! Or not! What do you think lol? Please, stop spamming this list Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/82870.77422...@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/427299.84044...@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Re: Esperanto
Oh, really? I was under the impression that Esperanto was a secondary language, and was kind of falling into disuse. It was an honest question! --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote: From: Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt Subject: Re: Esperanto To: debian-user Debian-User@lists.debian.org Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:45 AM 1. Ĉar kelkaj el ni parolas esperanton. 2. So that people like you can use spamming a mailing-list as an excuse for a social life. -- () ascii-rubanda kampajno - kontraŭ html-a retpoŝto /\ ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/y2g6b1504c41004270145yb9707262jcefe1a00be2b7...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/467102.84452...@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Technical questions
I can see that some people here are boring, and lack a sense of fun. So, technical questions only from here on in. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/650092.93676...@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Re: Esperanto
Now, that's not fair, Mr. Rogers. I also asked about setting up a TV card. You have to admit, it's a good question about Esperanto. --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: From: Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk Subject: Re: Esperanto To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 3:04 AM On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Thomas, It was an honest question! But everything else you've sent to this list would indicate otherwise. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent I don't believe you have to be an idiot to get somewhere these days Bombsite Boy - The Adverts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/296698.69078...@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Re: Joke
Now now... Don't be hatin'. ;) --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: From: Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Joke To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 3:24 AM On Tuesday 27 April 2010 09:34:06 Javier Barroso wrote: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com wrote: Yo Debian, I'm happy for you, and I'ma gonna let you finish, but Ubuntu is the greatest operating system of all time! Or not! What do you think lol? Please, stop spamming this list Javier - Little things please little minds. And I have a delete key. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201004271024.28793.lisi.re...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/690549.67290...@web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Re: Esperanto
No joke! I honestly wondered why there is an Esperanto mailing list. --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Glyn Astill glynast...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Glyn Astill glynast...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: Esperanto To: Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk, Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 3:25 AM It's not that we can't take a joke, in moderation, but this is a serious list for debian users. I'm sure there's plenty of IT joke mailing lists you could join if that's your thing, put please think of the other users before filling the list with these posts. --- On Tue, 27/4/10, Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Esperanto To: Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, 27 April, 2010, 10:11 Now, that's not fair, Mr. Rogers. I also asked about setting up a TV card. You have to admit, it's a good question about Esperanto. --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: From: Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk Subject: Re: Esperanto To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 3:04 AM On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Thomas, It was an honest question! But everything else you've sent to this list would indicate otherwise. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent I don't believe you have to be an idiot to get somewhere these days Bombsite Boy - The Adverts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/296698.69078...@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/739111.13758...@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Re: Tv card
So, about that TV card! I realize this isn't strictly a Debian-related question, as I use Ubuntu on my HTPC, but I'm sure it is the same on a Debian system. Is there an easy way to get the machine to autodetect my antenna? Is there a command to get it to output the name of the device? (The jacks for the antenna are built into my Nvidia graphics card.) Thanks in advance! --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com Subject: Tv card To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 1:47 AM How do you set up a tv card in Mythbuntu? Does anyone know? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/453404.83733...@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/956462.94711...@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Re: Esperanto
There's no need to hurl abuse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto Zamenhof's goal was to create an easy to learn and politically neutral language that would serve as a universal second language to foster peace and international understanding... There is controversy over the number of people who are fluent in Esperanto, with estimates ranging from 10,000 to as high as two million. So it is a secondary language. Everybody who speaks it speaks another, primary, language. Isn't it redundant to have a special mailing list for a group of people who may be as small as 10,000 worldwide, all of whom speak another, major, language? You seem upset that I would ask. I hope you don't mistakenly think I meant Spanish. --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: From: Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca Subject: Re: Esperanto To: Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com Cc: Glyn Astill glynast...@yahoo.co.uk, debian-user@lists.debian.org Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 4:14 AM Quoting Thomas Pomber tompom...@yahoo.com: No joke! I honestly wondered why there is an Esperanto mailing list. For the love of Mutt, will someone please kick this idiot off the list and be done with this? rday -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/348522.12817...@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com
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--- Tom Kuiper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 19:19:06 -0400 From: Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what happened to KDE? ... Hi. First of all, there's no need to CC me with any of this stuff. I read the list, obviously. The way 'elm' parses the header, if I reply only to you, no copy goes to the list. So, I do a 'group reply' to pick up what is on the Cc: line. I think the problems you're having are two separate problems: one having to do with the missing KDE session option in gdm, and the other having to do with KDE being de-installed. OK, you've confirmed my diagnosis. Right now, if you try to get kde back, you won't get the core parts. I trust it will be fixed soon. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE upgrade troubles
Actually, I was wrong. Upgrading kde while in kde makes no difference. Did a fresh install, upgraded kde to unstable in wmaker, same problem. Broken pipe, can't install kdelibs. Then I lose my entire kde menu, except for a couple of things. No programs. --- Thomas Pomber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got the same problem. Mine says it can't install kdelibs because of a broken pipe. Maybe I shouldn't upgrade kde while I'm in kde anymore. --- Jonathan Melhuish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Debian unstable both on my laptop at home and my desktop at work. My desktop upgraded itself to KDE 3.2 a few weeks back. My laptop is still using KDE 3.1 - the only difference I have noticed is that all of my K-menu items have dissappeared! :-( What gives? TIA, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE upgrade troubles
This worked for me: dpkg -r openoffice-de-en apt-get -f install kde apt-get install openoffice.org Fixed the whole problem. --- Jonathan Melhuish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Debian unstable both on my laptop at home and my desktop at work. My desktop upgraded itself to KDE 3.2 a few weeks back. My laptop is still using KDE 3.1 - the only difference I have noticed is that all of my K-menu items have dissappeared! :-( What gives? TIA, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE upgrade troubles
This worked for me: dpkg -r openoffice-de-en apt-get -f install kde apt-get install openoffice.org Fixed the whole problem. --- Jonathan Melhuish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Debian unstable both on my laptop at home and my desktop at work. My desktop upgraded itself to KDE 3.2 a few weeks back. My laptop is still using KDE 3.1 - the only difference I have noticed is that all of my K-menu items have dissappeared! :-( What gives? TIA, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE upgrade troubles
I've got the same problem. Mine says it can't install kdelibs because of a broken pipe. Maybe I shouldn't upgrade kde while I'm in kde anymore. --- Jonathan Melhuish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Debian unstable both on my laptop at home and my desktop at work. My desktop upgraded itself to KDE 3.2 a few weeks back. My laptop is still using KDE 3.1 - the only difference I have noticed is that all of my K-menu items have dissappeared! :-( What gives? TIA, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: branding debian releases
I think that will only add to the confusion. Operating systems aren't supposed to be esoteric. Pick a good name for each (your future, etc sound good), and then write an easy to understand one-sentence explanation at the download site. --- Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 06:47:42PM -0400, Chris Metzler wrote: This thread got started because people were frustrated about having to explain stable vs. testing vs. unstable to new users trying Debian. But it appears to me that a lot of people with strong ideas on how to fix that don't understand the differences themselves. this is good evidence that there must be a better approach than the one we're currently using. john doe will read stable and might think it means that it's got all the current upstream bug fixes when what we mean by it is we stopped adding new stuff to this one a long time ago, and haven't found any serious conflicts in quite a long time. john doe will read unstable and may think it means not stable, whereas what we mean is probably stable, and we're working on making it more stable. john doe will read testing and may think it means experimental when we intend it to mean whatever isn't stable here will be really soon, and it'll be the new stable version. there's a discrepancy between what a newbie it likely to infer, and what the old hands have learned to interpret. The web page http://www.debian.org/devel/testing explains what testing is. It isn't what many people in this thread seem to be suggesting. exactly this confusion could be alleviated by a better naming scheme. but perhaps we should examine AVOIDING descriptive names altogether... as Tom Massey also has a point: On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 12:14:05AM +1000, Tom Massey wrote: I vaguely suspect that renaming the releases won't actually solve the problem that it's meant to - reducing confusion among new Debian users. You're likely to just end up with a new set of labels to explain. Any name you come up with is going to be too short to fully explain the situation: call stable 'server', testing 'desktop' for example, and you still have to explain that the server release is good for desktops if you prefer stability over new stuff, and the desktop release might be good for a server if you need more recent packages and don't want to search for backports. You can't fit all that info into a short name. I run unstable on my desktop machine, stable on my mail server because I know what the names mean. Education as to what goes in to the various Debian releases is the key, and changing the release names doesn't do much for that. perhaps instead of trying for descriptive-but-too-short a name for each layer (stable/testing/unstable) of release, we should stick to ONLY the colorful code names which will give the newbie NOTHING to assume about current-vs-stable, and then they're more likely to traipse over to the description page to learn what's what. i.e. instead of stable / server / rocksolid testing / workstation / almost unstable / cuttingedge / future maybe we should avoid the descriptive names and use only ...slink ...potato woody sarge sid ? -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux boss 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #101 from Joost Kooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Looking for a way to CREATE A PAGE OF LINKS to all the */index.html that already exist in your /usr/share/doc tree? apt-get install dwww then point your browser to: http://localhost/dwww Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: branding debian releases
Actually, I think Monique is incorrect for once. Unstable is less stable than testing. But it's the only way to go, in my humble opinion. --- Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14 Apr 2004, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: [snip] My understanding of the 'testing' distribution is in conflict with your description. Testing is the last to receive security updates, and I believe it is more prone to wide-ranging package bugs than is unstable. I see it more as a developer sandbox than a live distribution. Am I wrong? I don't know, but I hope so! :) I have to admit to keeping up to date with testing for well over a year, but lacking the courage to make more than occasional forays into unstable. But if you are right, perhaps I ought to change my policy. Anthony -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic Windows-free zone || books and skeptical articles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian has turned unusable.
Better yet, use Knoppix. Or wait a couple days for the new one. http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-old-en.html Easiest and best Debian available. You're right, though. It's like M$ trying to push 3.1 because it's so old all the bugs have finally been worked out, and it's so stable... Many people would call that obsolete. --- Jim Woodward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest you install sarge and immediately thereafter install kernel 2.6.5 Trollcollect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list, after 3 days of twiddling with a recent copy of debians woody release i need to vent a bit of the anger and frustration that this distribution has caused. I want to start with saying that i was a strong advocate of debian compared to distributions such as RedHat and SuSE. Being a UNIX admin professionally (Solaris mainly), i felt home on a debian system pretty quick, and the packaging method was unique among all linux deriatives i have seen. Also i used to like debians approach of stability before bleeding-edge stuff. However as i have to install a small network now (7 WS's and one server), i have to reconsider this assessment. I downloaded woody (2 failed attempts to get an installation CD with the new jigdo method). What i got after installation was - a 2.2 Kernel without ext3 support - a KDE 2.0 overall totally outdated and useless versions of libraries and software. I then tried to figure out how to update those packages i need in recent versions. As i know KDE from Solaris, i trust enough in their own QA procedure to consider their 3.2.1 stable enough for usage. Why debian believes KDE 2.0 is more stable, or even usable at all, is beyond my understanding. However it turned out that i could not update only selected packages easily. In fact neither of dselect or apt-get seemed to have a method to do this in a sensible way. Now it MAY well be that i am just an idiot who is not capable of doing this, however i asked in a few linux related channels and also at work, noone could tell me how to set up a half-way decent debian without compromising the pkg system. Sure many told me to build it all by hand but then, without the packaging system what good is debian? I hope that whoever is responsible for the direction debian is steering to currently thinks about the target of the whole distribution, which is to provide users with a decent linux system that comes stable, yet with all neccessary parts to be competetive among other distributions. Mit schönen Grüßen von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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xfwm4 crashes at startup
Does anybody else know?klaus imgrund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:45, you wrote: Do you have any idea why the settings manager would suddenly become inoperable in xfwm4? On start-up the background is a black screen, and all the font sizes have gone back to their default sizes. The panel tray that is normally a thin bar across the bottom of the screen has collapsed into a little square that strongly resembles a waffle. It has also migrated to the top of the screen. If I right-click on it, and try to pick any selection from the right-click pop-up menu, the whole window manager crashes and I go into gnome. Is it the wallpaper or something? It keeps happening to me over and over, and I don't know how to correct the problem. It's very frustrating. Thomas Pomber Sorry - can't help you there.Never used it and at the moment I got gentoo with gnome 2.4 on this box which is slightly screwed up anyway.You could try to run xfwm4 directly from the login w/o gnome and see what happens.There seems to be a lot of different things breaking with different distros with all that gtk1/2 migration.Sorry,KlausPost your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)
The return of Christ.Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 10:38:33PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ... After Iraq and Palestine etc is freed, and your traitors and war criminals has been hanged, there may be a new _viable_ chance for peace. Without going into left field, and without saying anything negative,what's your vision of a harmonious world? Use only positive statements.-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
Re: please read this
--- trevor brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi my name is Trevor Brooks. I go to Gardner middle school in Lansing Michigan. We have to do a project with donating a dollar to an organization. we have to know where the dollar goes and how it helps. We have to pretend that we are the dollar and tell where we are going. I was hoping you could give me some info. It would be very much appreciated. THANK YOU! Trevor Brooks Hi Trevor. (I mean 'dollar.') You want to know where you are going. Well, you will be happy to learn that you are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft. Yes! You are helping open-source software, which Microsoft and its dreaded, evil, king, Bill Gates hates. Tell your teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the freedom of computer users everywhere. I hope you get an A. - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: please read this
It's called a joke, dumbass. Not everything revolves around the United States, or the small minority of its citzens who are idiots, such as yourself. Hey Trevor, don't listen to us. I'm a true believer, and this other guy's a retard. I think you better put something else in your assignment. --- Joyce, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Thomas Pomber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 11:03 AM To: trevor brooks; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: please read this --- trevor brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi my name is Trevor Brooks. I go to Gardner middle school in Lansing Michigan. We have to do a project with donating a dollar to an organization. we have to know where the dollar goes and how it helps. We have to pretend that we are the dollar and tell where we are going. I was hoping you could give me some info. It would be very much appreciated. THANK YOU! Trevor Brooks Hi Trevor. (I mean 'dollar.') You want to know where you are going. Well, you will be happy to learn that you are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft. Yes! You are helping open-source software, which Microsoft and its dreaded, evil, king, Bill Gates hates. Tell your teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the freedom of computer users everywhere. I hope you get an A. /s/Microsoft/America /s/open-source software/freedom fighter /s/Bill gates/George Bush /s/computer users/true believers You want to know where you are going. Well, you will be happy to learn that you are going toward the destruction of the evil America. Yes! You are helping freedom fighters, which America and its dreaded, evil, king, George bush hates. Tell your teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the freedom of true believers everywhere. /s/Microsoft/Enemies /s/open-source software/Democracy/ etc,etc,etc destruction 2 evil 3 dreaded 1 hates 1 For goodness sake, Debian is a computer operating system, not everything is a fundementalist conflict. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A newbie's confusion about BS
Okay, I'm out. I got too many weirdos emailing me about my dick. Who are these people? Leave me alone! Besides, everybody's picking on the Americans, and that's way too cliche. What are you, jealous? I just feel sorry for them, because they're starting to believe their own BS and are allowing their government to behave like arrogant idiots. Of course Canada is worse (commies), but you still have to call a spade a spade once in a while. Anybody know how to configure the network settings for Xmule? Do I use a text editor, or what? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)
Two-cents-worth from Canada: It's nice being a Canadian because you get a little bit of variety in the propaganda you're exposed to, which lends itself to a more well-rounded brainwashing. You get to pick what bullshit you are going to believe. We sympathize for our brothers in the States who don't have this. If there's a war, you have this thing where all debate is shut down - supposedly to support the troops. But you are being played. There was nothing virtuous or honorable about the war in Iraq. It was a really big guy (the US) picking on a little guy (Iraq). Whether or not Saddam is an asshole is beside the point. Anybody who supports Bush on Iraq is asking their leaders to lie. This thing in Iraq is worse for you than it is for Iraq because you guys - the torch-bearers for freedom and democracy - are selling out that which made you great. And you would prefer to believe your government's BS than think for yourselves. It's pretty sad,really. And the way you permit your President tolie to the entire world (including yourselves) is shameful. In one day, you threw all the integrity and respect youhad out the window -and in the name of blind patriotism you believed the lie. But I suspect American feelings about their militarymight are over-rated. For instance, if they gave a shit, China would kick your ass in a war. America has become a bully. And pride comes before a fall. csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:45:48 +0800,David Palmer. wrote:[...] What started the inciting were bombs dropped on Bin Laden and his Taliban. Up until then, America had been supplying the Taliban with arms, and the C.I.A. had been involved with field assistance. When a gas and oil field was discovered under Kazakstan, Turkmenistan and Northern Afghanistan larger than the Caspian Sea, that all changed. Iraq has 25% of the worlds' oil reserves, and also the refineries so close. Perfect solution to the Texas oil lobby who were running desperately dry.The usual conspiracy theory from the fusion power lobby.-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)
Fuck off! Are you serious? Do you think you've got a bigger dick than me, too, just because you're an American? I was talking to this electrician who just relocated here to Canadafrom Russia, and I was blown away when he told me that they didn't brainwash their people in The CommieDays half as much asthe US does today. Yeah right, I said! But he said that they never had movies where the Americans were depicted as ignorant morons like you guys do. Anyway, to make a long story short, the guy's got a point. If you,as an individual, want to remain ignorant, that's up to you. But don't criticize us for having the courage to think beyond what they tell us on the American news. And it's not about any of that European bullshit either. It's about what's true, and what's right. Peace.Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:26:38PM -0400, Thomas Pomber wrote: But I suspect American feelings about their military might are over-rated. For instance, if they gave a shit, China would kick your ass in a war. America has become a bully. And pride comes before a fall.You haven't seen American military power yet. All of you've seen is us holding back, cause the TV crew is looking.I was on a plane to Cali, sitting next to a guy going to Ft. Pendleton. He was in PsOps -- told me some great stories.One was about Somalia. All you heard on TV was the American getting dragged through the streets. You didn't hear about the next day, when we went in to get some payback: guy told me we fired so many shots, the soldiers gun barrels melted. Killed about 200 civies for payback.Another guy told me the true story abo ut the first gulf war: on TV, you saw pictures of Iraqis surrendering to TV crews. In the radio room, my friend told me stories of Iraqis walking out of bunkers only to be gunned down.So, if you want to get all pissed off, get REALLY pissed off, cause the truth is 500 times worse than your theories, but don't be mistaken that what's going on Iraq is because we couldn't massacre the fuck out of them. We're holding back, trying to be nice.The whole European "we've evolved beyond war" is an illusion - I can't wait for the next good war you get yourselves into. It'll happen. And I'll be there calling you a baby killer.-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
Does anyone know how to...
fix the network settings for Xmule so that it will work properly? I'm running linux out of my xbox using Ed's Debian, which comes with Xmule pre-installed. But it doesn't download. I tried editing the binary file, but it was a weird-looking squiggles.Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
