128-bit encryption netscape
Hey people. I'm running netscape 4.75 from the security site, which has 128-bit encryption. I want to upgrade to potato r2 from r1, and it's going to upgrade netscape. So, how do you tell if the version you're about to upgrade to has 128 bit encryption support? I've looked in all of the descriptions and I don't see anything there. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX PGP Public Key: http://24.43.42.96/email.phtml pgppEgAT8mZMG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 128-bit encryption netscape
Don't worry, netscape 4.76 comes with 128-bit encryption. Just type about: into the location and look for U.S. security. International security netscapes come with only 56 (64?) bits of encryption. Diego Biurrun On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 10:16:59AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Hey people. I'm running netscape 4.75 from the security site, which has 128-bit encryption. I want to upgrade to potato r2 from r1, and it's going to upgrade netscape. So, how do you tell if the version you're about to upgrade to has 128 bit encryption support? I've looked in all of the descriptions and I don't see anything there.
Re: 128-bit encryption netscape
I have the 2.2_r2 CD's. Netscape 4.75 128bit is on the CD's already. -- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Current O/S: FreeBSD 4.2 RELEASE On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Michael P. Soulier wrote: -Hey people. I'm running netscape 4.75 from the security site, which has -128-bit encryption. I want to upgrade to potato r2 from r1, and it's going to -upgrade netscape. So, how do you tell if the version you're about to upgrade -to has 128 bit encryption support? I've looked in all of the descriptions and -I don't see anything there. - -Mike - --- -Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount -of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX -PGP Public Key: http://24.43.42.96/email.phtml -
Re: 128-bit encryption netscape
Granted, but how do I know this before I install? Should this not be in the description? Mike On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 05:13:34PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: Don't worry, netscape 4.76 comes with 128-bit encryption. Just type about: into the location and look for U.S. security. International security netscapes come with only 56 (64?) bits of encryption. -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX PGP Public Key: http://24.43.42.96/email.phtml pgpMMGcDGhjQx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 128-bit encryption netscape
Lo, on Sunday, January 21, Michael P. Soulier did write: Granted, but how do I know this before I install? Should this not be in the description? Mike I'd think so, yes. Log a bug against the netscape package. Richard
Re: 128-bit encryption netscape
Michael P. Soulier wrote: Hey people. I'm running netscape 4.75 from the security site, which has 128-bit encryption. I want to upgrade to potato r2 from r1, and it's going to upgrade netscape. So, how do you tell if the version you're about to upgrade to has 128 bit encryption support? I've looked in all of the descriptions and I don't see anything there. i use www.fortify.net they have a SSL check there that shows what cipher and how many bits your browser(any SSL browser) supports. course u gotta install the browser to test it :/ nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 128-bit encryption netscape
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Nate Amsden wrote: -Michael P. Soulier wrote: - - Hey people. I'm running netscape 4.75 from the security site, which has - 128-bit encryption. I want to upgrade to potato r2 from r1, and it's going to - upgrade netscape. So, how do you tell if the version you're about to upgrade - to has 128 bit encryption support? I've looked in all of the descriptions and - I don't see anything there. - -i use www.fortify.net they have a SSL check there that shows what cipher -and how many bits your browser(any SSL browser) supports. - -course u gotta install the browser to test it :/ - -nate - Well if you have to install it, then just pick: Help -- About Communicator. On the left side, where it talks about security, look for DES-.. If the DES-... is listed you have 128 bit secutrity !! -- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Current O/S: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2_r2
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
Pollywog == Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pollywog On 30-Jul-2000 Mathew Johnston wrote: is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant find it in my packages list. Pollywog Sounds as though you are looking for the 'Fortify' Pollywog package. ...except fortify does not work with Netscape 4.73 or above. (unless this has been fixed...) -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 03:07:22PM +1000, Brian May wrote: ...except fortify does not work with Netscape 4.73 or above. (unless this has been fixed...) correct, and i don't think they plan on fixing it since anyone can freely download the strong crypto enabled netscape binaries. my opinion on the matter is that debian should create a navigator-smotif-blah-128.deb and toss it in non-US/non-free. but i will leave that to debian-legal to decide. does anyone know if debian is going to package 4.74 netscape binaries? -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpAAHcpjdsrQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Take a look at the News section at the fortify site here: http://www.fortify.net/intro.html This says that Fortify is on hold, since 128bit Netscape is available worldwide. I knew that already. What I was asking was why the Debian packages don't offer the 128bit version, even though the changelog implies that they do (or so it seems to me---am I misreading it?).. It means that (for non-US people) there's no apt-get way of getting a 128bit Netscape 4.73, whereas there is for 4.72. Presumably there's no change for US people? Bruce Stephens wrote: [...] It seems at odds with the Debian changelog (see 4.73-17) URL:http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=netscape-base-473,
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
Bruce Stephens wrote: Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Take a look at the News section at the fortify site here: http://www.fortify.net/intro.html This says that Fortify is on hold, since 128bit Netscape is available worldwide. I knew that already. What I was asking was why the Debian packages don't offer the 128bit version, even though the changelog implies that they do (or so it seems to me---am I misreading it?).. It means that (for non-US people) there's no apt-get way of getting a 128bit Netscape 4.73, whereas there is for 4.72. Presumably there's no change for US people? It's the same situation for all of us. The 4.73 communicator package doesn't get you 128 bit encryption, and requires the extra step of replacing the 56 bit binary with the 128 bit binary from the tar.gz installation. For what it's worth, that changelog is for the netscape-base-473 package. That package doesn't install any Netscape binaries: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dpkg -L netscape-base-473 /. /usr /usr/share /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/netscape-base-473 /usr/share/doc/netscape-base-473/copyright.end-user /usr/share/doc/netscape-base-473/copyright.distributor.html /usr/share/doc/netscape-base-473/copyright /usr/share/doc/netscape-base-473/changelog.Debian.gz /usr/lib /usr/lib/netscape /usr/lib/netscape/473 /usr/lib/netscape/473/netscape I don't know if there are any plans to package the 128 bit version Tom
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
Tom == Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom It's the same situation for all of us. The 4.73 communicator Tom package doesn't get you 128 bit encryption, and requires the Tom extra step of replacing the 56 bit binary with the 128 bit This means you have to download a huge binary (and other files) twice. Yuck. Tom I don't know if there are any plans to package the 128 bit Tom version I hope so... -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
128 bit encryption netscape?
is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant find it in my packages list. Thanks :) Mat.
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
download the linux binary from the download page at home.netscape.com. http://home.netscape.com/download/0718100/1-en-linux2.2-4.74-complete-128_qual.html On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:01:43PM -0400, Mathew Johnston wrote: is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant find it in my packages list. Thanks :) Mat. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- As a general rule, if you have trouble with the binary system, then probably it is because you do not really understand the decimal system ... R.W. Hamming
RE: 128 bit encryption netscape?
On 30-Jul-2000 Mathew Johnston wrote: is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant find it in my packages list. Sounds as though you are looking for the 'Fortify' package. -- Andrew
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
is there a Package for the 128bit version? Thus spake Patrick Dahiroc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): download the linux binary from the download page at home.netscape.com. http://home.netscape.com/download/0718100/1-en-linux2.2-4.74-complete-128_qual.html On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:01:43PM -0400, Mathew Johnston wrote: is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant find it in my packages list. Thanks :) Mat. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- As a general rule, if you have trouble with the binary system, then probably it is because you do not really understand the decimal system ... R.W. Hamming -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Micros~1 : Senior System Engineer |For when quality, reliability at RnD Consulting | and security just aren't \_ that important! DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
128 bit encryption is not available directly from installing Debian packages. There's a few options as far as getting the 128 bit encryption: 1) Install normally using the Debian package(s). This will install the 56 bit version. Then use the fortify packages (fortify and fortify-linux-x86) to install the 128 bit encryption. The fortify packages are in the non-US distribution, but it only works with versions up to and including 4.72. The Debian packages will install to /usr/lib/netscape. OR 2) Install by downloading the 128 bit version directly from Netscape. This will be in the form of a tar.gz file and after extracting the file to a setup directory, the included 'ns-install' script is run to install the program to /usr/local/netscape (by default). OR 3) If you want to install version 4.73 using Debian packages AND want 128 bit encryption, the fortify packages will not work for that version. What you do can in that case (or with any version) is to also install (temporarily) the 'direct from Netscape' tar.gz version just to get the 128 bit binary. You can then copy that binary over the 56 bit version installed by the Debian package. I just did this today on my potato box with Communicator 4.73. The binary copy was like this: cp /usr/local/netscape/netscape /usr/lib/netscape/473/communicator/communicator-smotif.real Tom Mathew Johnston wrote: is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant find it in my packages list. Thanks :) Mat. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 128 bit encryption is not available directly from installing Debian packages. There's a few options as far as getting the 128 bit encryption: Is there some reason for this? It seems at odds with the Debian changelog (see 4.73-17) URL:http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=netscape-base-473, so obviously someone thought it would be in the package at some point. What went wrong?
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
Take a look at the News section at the fortify site here: http://www.fortify.net/intro.html Tom Bruce Stephens wrote: Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 128 bit encryption is not available directly from installing Debian packages. There's a few options as far as getting the 128 bit encryption: Is there some reason for this? It seems at odds with the Debian changelog (see 4.73-17) URL:http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=netscape-base-473, so obviously someone thought it would be in the package at some point. What went wrong?
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
Actually I kinda went with 2. With Debian, I installed both the debian 473 and the netscape version of 474 (into /usr/local/netscape per default) and then just did an update-alternatives to point to this version. Worked very nice and clean on my desktop and my laptops. Robert Thus spake Tom Pfeifer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): 128 bit encryption is not available directly from installing Debian packages. There's a few options as far as getting the 128 bit encryption: 1) Install normally using the Debian package(s). This will install the 56 bit version. Then use the fortify packages (fortify and fortify-linux-x86) to install the 128 bit encryption. The fortify packages are in the non-US distribution, but it only works with versions up to and including 4.72. The Debian packages will install to /usr/lib/netscape. OR 2) Install by downloading the 128 bit version directly from Netscape. This will be in the form of a tar.gz file and after extracting the file to a setup directory, the included 'ns-install' script is run to install the program to /usr/local/netscape (by default). OR 3) If you want to install version 4.73 using Debian packages AND want 128 bit encryption, the fortify packages will not work for that version. What you do can in that case (or with any version) is to also install (temporarily) the 'direct from Netscape' tar.gz version just to get the 128 bit binary. You can then copy that binary over the 56 bit version installed by the Debian package. I just did this today on my potato box with Communicator 4.73. The binary copy was like this: cp /usr/local/netscape/netscape /usr/lib/netscape/473/communicator/communicator-smotif.real Tom Mathew Johnston wrote: is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant find it in my packages list. Thanks :) Mat. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Micros~1 : Senior System Engineer |For when quality, reliability at RnD Consulting | and security just aren't \_ that important! DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?
Once upon a time, I heard Robert L. Harris say Actually I kinda went with 2. With Debian, I installed both the debian 473 and the netscape version of 474 (into /usr/local/netscape per default) and then just did an update-alternatives to point to this version. Worked very nice and clean on my desktop and my laptops. Robert But with only update-alternatives method that point netscape/communicator to your /usr/local/netscape/netscape, you would lost very good wrapper that Adam Heath wrote, e.g. it manage all the plugin installed, mime, and etc... You could do these things by yourself but it's very convenient to use that wrapper. Chanop -- ,. | Just Debian ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `' pgpkGbbb2xpC6.pgp Description: PGP signature
