Re: Looking for nice, small display manager
Herewidth testifying: My favorite WM (so far) is 'icewm-gnome'. It's main assets to me: - it is small, clean and fast - it's panel shows up to 3 little graphical squares showing system activities: a) system load b) LAN load c) online load - Ctrl-ESC (or mouse-Right) shows main menu - Ctrl-Alt-Left|Right moves easily through my screens - Ctrl-Alt-1 .. 0 switches to the Nth screen - Alt-Tab moves through my windows w/in one screen - a tiny panel icon shows a letter symbol turning green on new mail On my AMD-100 MHz PC, 128 MB RAM, I extended this WM from 4 to 12 screens in order to separate different activities more easily. My main drawback: So far, I did not look for a good config program, I did it manually, mainly by editing the text files in /etc/X11/icewm/ Icons of newly installed programs (e.g. opera.xpm) should be copied to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/icons/ The digital panel clock looks a bit ugly to me but does its job. If anybody knows a usefull configuration program, this nice WM would sure get some more customers. moin, Wilko -- Wilko Fokken Education is a man's going Landschaftspolder 67 from cocksure ignorance D-26831 Dollartto thoughtful uncertainty. Tel. 04953-382 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for nice, small display manager
Incoming from Wilko Fokken: Herewidth testifying: My favorite WM (so far) is 'icewm-gnome'. It's main assets to me: [snip] If anybody knows a usefull configuration program, this nice WM would iceconf, icemc, icepref. Try apt-cache show icepref -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for nice, small display manager
Hi, On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:34:29 +0200, Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys did notice that he is looking for a display manager, not a window manager ;-) the thing that gives the login screen. Thanks! I already got nervous, because all people misunderstood my request. At least one person... :-) I'm looking for a display manager. Examples of a display manager are gdm, kdm, wdm, xdm. The problem with gdm and kdm are only the dependencies! If you install gdm (or kdm), a huge number of libraries are installed (and loaded into RAM!). I'm using xdm now, but it is not as good looking as gdm. The discussion about window managers etc. is interesting, but I'm already used to XFCE4 and really like it. So, if someone is going to build a gdm variant with only GTK+ 2.0, but without all the GNOME libraries, please drop me a message :-) Cheers, WB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for nice, small display manager
On 13 Mar 2004, W. Borgert wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a nice display manager (for XFCE4). My expectations are: * good looking :-) (GTK+ 2 preferred) * small (not hundreds of dependencies on GNOME, KDE, ...) * remote capable (XDMCP support) * system menu (reboot/shutdown) Considered so far: gdm - best so far, but much too many dependencies on GNOME kdm - not installed, too many dependencies on Qt/KDE pdm - seems to be a graphical login w/o XDMCP, still GTK+ 1 wdm - works, but I had problems with system menu, not sure about XDMCP xdm - works, but is ugly, IMHO My preference would be gdm minus GNOME, but maybe other Debian users have better ideas? If nothing helps, I will use xdm. Cheers, WB Icewm? AC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic Windows-free zone || books and skeptical articles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for nice, small display manager
Anthony Campbell wrote: On 13 Mar 2004, W. Borgert wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a nice display manager (for XFCE4). My expectations are: * good looking :-) (GTK+ 2 preferred) * small (not hundreds of dependencies on GNOME, KDE, ...) * remote capable (XDMCP support) * system menu (reboot/shutdown) Considered so far: gdm - best so far, but much too many dependencies on GNOME kdm - not installed, too many dependencies on Qt/KDE pdm - seems to be a graphical login w/o XDMCP, still GTK+ 1 wdm - works, but I had problems with system menu, not sure about XDMCP xdm - works, but is ugly, IMHO My preference would be gdm minus GNOME, but maybe other Debian users have better ideas? If nothing helps, I will use xdm. Cheers, WB Icewm? AC Fluxbox. I moved to it a couple of years ago and can't leave it now. It has features that the hefty wm's don't have (tabbed grouping for applications, mouse wheel switches desktop, and many more). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for nice, small display manager
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 08:28:49AM +, Toby Batch wrote:
On 13 Mar 2004, W. Borgert wrote:
I'm looking for a nice display manager (for XFCE4). My
expectations are:
Fluxbox. I moved to it a couple of years ago and can't leave it now.
It has features that the hefty wm's don't have (tabbed grouping for
applications, mouse wheel switches desktop, and many more).
Try this:
#aptitude install fluxbox gnome-control-center kcontrol
#update-alternatives --remove x-session-manager `which gnome-session`
In your ~/.xsession, use:
gnome-settings-daemon
GSDPID=$!
while lsof -u$USER | awk 'BEGIN { found = 0; }
($2 == '$GSDPID') ($8 ~ /orbit-'$USER'/) { found = 1; next
}
END { exit found }'
do
sleep 1
done
sleep 1
xscreensaver -nosplash
kdeinit
exec fluxbox
You'll get the very speedy and useful Fluxbox, and all the Gnome/KDE
eyecandy your heart desires. Best of three worlds.
(The gnome-settings-daemon blocking code was suggested by Gregory
Seidman:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/debian-user-200402/msg05152.html).
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Re: Looking for nice, small display manager
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 08:28:49AM +, Toby Batch wrote: Anthony Campbell wrote: On 13 Mar 2004, W. Borgert wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a nice display manager (for XFCE4). My expectations are: * good looking :-) (GTK+ 2 preferred) * small (not hundreds of dependencies on GNOME, KDE, ...) * remote capable (XDMCP support) * system menu (reboot/shutdown) Considered so far: gdm - best so far, but much too many dependencies on GNOME kdm - not installed, too many dependencies on Qt/KDE pdm - seems to be a graphical login w/o XDMCP, still GTK+ 1 wdm - works, but I had problems with system menu, not sure about XDMCP xdm - works, but is ugly, IMHO My preference would be gdm minus GNOME, but maybe other Debian users have better ideas? If nothing helps, I will use xdm. Cheers, WB Icewm? AC Fluxbox. I moved to it a couple of years ago and can't leave it now. It has features that the hefty wm's don't have (tabbed grouping for applications, mouse wheel switches desktop, and many more). You guys did notice that he is looking for a display manager, not a window manager ;-) the thing that gives the login screen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] +++ This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System at the Tel-Aviv University CC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for nice, small display manager
On 13 Mar 2004, W. Borgert wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a nice display manager (for XFCE4). My expectations are: * good looking :-) (GTK+ 2 preferred) * small (not hundreds of dependencies on GNOME, KDE, ...) * remote capable (XDMCP support) * system menu (reboot/shutdown) Considered so far: gdm - best so far, but much too many dependencies on GNOME kdm - not installed, too many dependencies on Qt/KDE pdm - seems to be a graphical login w/o XDMCP, still GTK+ 1 wdm - works, but I had problems with system menu, not sure about XDMCP xdm - works, but is ugly, IMHO My preference would be gdm minus GNOME, but maybe other Debian users have better ideas? If nothing helps, I will use xdm. Cheers, WB Icewm? AC Anthony Campbell wrote: Fluxbox. I moved to it a couple of years ago and can't leave it now. It has features that the hefty wm's don't have (tabbed grouping for applications, mouse wheel switches desktop, and many more). You should try Fluxbox with Rox filer, and Rox Session. You can put icons on your desktop very easy, and have one of the best file managers arround with Rox Filer. I find this to be one of the best combo's, also Rox filer can be used with different WM's but I must say Fluxbox is very nice. Only thing I wish it had was an easier way to save sessions, like KDE does, but I guess that is what start up scripts are for. Rthoreau -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looking for nice, small display manager
Hi, I'm looking for a nice display manager (for XFCE4). My expectations are: * good looking :-) (GTK+ 2 preferred) * small (not hundreds of dependencies on GNOME, KDE, ...) * remote capable (XDMCP support) * system menu (reboot/shutdown) Considered so far: gdm - best so far, but much too many dependencies on GNOME kdm - not installed, too many dependencies on Qt/KDE pdm - seems to be a graphical login w/o XDMCP, still GTK+ 1 wdm - works, but I had problems with system menu, not sure about XDMCP xdm - works, but is ugly, IMHO My preference would be gdm minus GNOME, but maybe other Debian users have better ideas? If nothing helps, I will use xdm. Cheers, WB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for nice, small display manager
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 05:00:01PM +, W. Borgert wrote: I'm looking for a nice display manager (for XFCE4). My expectations are: * good looking :-) (GTK+ 2 preferred) * small (not hundreds of dependencies on GNOME, KDE, ...) * remote capable (XDMCP support) * system menu (reboot/shutdown) Considered so far: (snip) wdm - works, but I had problems with system menu, not sure about XDMCP What problems did you have with wdm? XDMCP works fine. -- Jamin W. Collins Remember, root always has a loaded gun. Don't run around with it unless you absolutely need it. -- Vineet Kumar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for nice, small display manager
W. Borgert wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a nice display manager (for XFCE4). My expectations are: * good looking :-) (GTK+ 2 preferred) * small (not hundreds of dependencies on GNOME, KDE, ...) * remote capable (XDMCP support) * system menu (reboot/shutdown) Considered so far: gdm - best so far, but much too many dependencies on GNOME kdm - not installed, too many dependencies on Qt/KDE pdm - seems to be a graphical login w/o XDMCP, still GTK+ 1 wdm - works, but I had problems with system menu, not sure about XDMCP xdm - works, but is ugly, IMHO My preference would be gdm minus GNOME, but maybe other Debian users have better ideas? If nothing helps, I will use xdm. Cheers, WB I use gdm because I start multiple X servers to support multiple users with Backstreet Ruby. It is the only display manager who does that right. (i.e. not all at once and when stopping in reverse not all at once) I don't have gnome installed as session manager but fvwm as window manager. I just install gdm and that's all. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
