Re: Newbie Thinkpad question
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Paul Johnson wrote: Once the floppies are used on bootup, I believe they are not needed again (Makes a ramdisk). So you would boot with the floppy, and do that stuff, then put CD drive in when it asks for it.. I guess I didn't make myself clear. You cannot hot-swap the CD-ROM and Floppy drives, so if you boot from the floppy, you can't put the CD in because there is no CD-ROM DRIVE in the machine. If you turn off the ThinkPad and install the CD-ROM DRIVE, you cannot boot from the floppy. Catch 22. My Apologies, I meant as Brandon's reply did.. once the boot floppies are finished, there is no need for them. A reboot, and ta da. I forgot that the floppies themselves install a base system... I did it 9 months ago.. Gosh thats a long time! :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - It works fine except when I am in Windows. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newbie Thinkpad question
I have two questions before I try to install Linux on my Thinkpad 755CD 1. The ~680 Meg hard-disk is currently DoubleSpaced under Windows 95 to look like almost 1.2 Gig. Is there any way I can re-partition it to have a dual boot, or do I need to just scrub it and install Linux (I don't mind too much if the later is the case). 2. I have Linux on CD, but installation instructions refer to making a boot floppy or two. On the Thinkpad, you can either have the CD installed or the floppy. What's going to happen if I try to install from the CD and Linux tries to access (or asks for) the floppy? What's the best way to handle this? Thanks in advance, Paul Paul Johnson Lynx Robotics [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/Ly/LynxRobotics -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Thinkpad question
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Paul Johnson wrote: I have two questions before I try to install Linux on my Thinkpad 755CD 1. The ~680 Meg hard-disk is currently DoubleSpaced under Windows 95 to look like almost 1.2 Gig. Is there any way I can re-partition it to have a dual boot, or do I need to just scrub it and install Linux (I don't mind too much if the later is the case). I would suggest a scrub, but someone else might have a better idea... 2. I have Linux on CD, but installation instructions refer to making a boot floppy or two. On the Thinkpad, you can either have the CD installed or the floppy. What's going to happen if I try to install from the CD and Linux tries to access (or asks for) the floppy? What's the best way to handle this? Once the floppies are used on bootup, I believe they are not needed again (Makes a ramdisk). So you would boot with the floppy, and do that stuff, then put CD drive in when it asks for it.. To make the floppies, copy the rawrite program, and the .bin files to your Win95 drive, put in floppy drive, make floppies, reboot with boot floppy, and repartition the HDD with the linux fdisk that is presented to you. Oh, before you lose the whole DOS thing, try making some tecra boot floppies too... I think the thinkpad needs them. (Instead of the standard ones.) I dont know if they are on the CD, but they are available on the FTP site. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - Documentation - The worst part of programming. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Thinkpad question
Also just to add to what Michael said... If you have any errors with your boot disks, you should try the floppy=thinkpad at the boot prompt. My thinkpad will not work without it (750) and I am pretty sure you will need the same think. As for the compressed Win95 drive... I would backup all your work and redo it. It is dangerious enough to resize a partition, let alone one that you will have to recover from a compressed partition. Seems like it is asking for trouble. Just my 2 cents... --Jay On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Paul Johnson wrote: I have two questions before I try to install Linux on my Thinkpad 755CD 1. The ~680 Meg hard-disk is currently DoubleSpaced under Windows 95 to look like almost 1.2 Gig. Is there any way I can re-partition it to have a dual boot, or do I need to just scrub it and install Linux (I don't mind too much if the later is the case). I would suggest a scrub, but someone else might have a better idea... 2. I have Linux on CD, but installation instructions refer to making a boot floppy or two. On the Thinkpad, you can either have the CD installed or the floppy. What's going to happen if I try to install from the CD and Linux tries to access (or asks for) the floppy? What's the best way to handle this? Once the floppies are used on bootup, I believe they are not needed again (Makes a ramdisk). So you would boot with the floppy, and do that stuff, then put CD drive in when it asks for it.. To make the floppies, copy the rawrite program, and the .bin files to your Win95 drive, put in floppy drive, make floppies, reboot with boot floppy, and repartition the HDD with the linux fdisk that is presented to you. Oh, before you lose the whole DOS thing, try making some tecra boot floppies too... I think the thinkpad needs them. (Instead of the standard ones.) I dont know if they are on the CD, but they are available on the FTP site. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - Documentation - The worst part of programming. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Thinkpad question
Once the floppies are used on bootup, I believe they are not needed again (Makes a ramdisk). So you would boot with the floppy, and do that stuff, then put CD drive in when it asks for it.. I guess I didn't make myself clear. You cannot hot-swap the CD-ROM and Floppy drives, so if you boot from the floppy, you can't put the CD in because there is no CD-ROM DRIVE in the machine. If you turn off the ThinkPad and install the CD-ROM DRIVE, you cannot boot from the floppy. Catch 22. It must be possible to install Linux on a Thinkpad, because I have read that people have done it, but no one has touched on this particula point. Maybe I'm missing something. Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Thinkpad question
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Paul Johnson wrote: I guess I didn't make myself clear. You cannot hot-swap the CD-ROM and Floppy drives, so if you boot from the floppy, you can't put the CD in because there is no CD-ROM DRIVE in the machine. If you turn off the ThinkPad and install the CD-ROM DRIVE, you cannot boot from the floppy. Catch 22. Make your floppies, install from floppy disk drive. Before the end of the installation, select lilo or make system bootable from harddrive. Put in your cdrom and boot the system, ta da. Note, that it's good to have a spare machine with all the floppy images and base disks so you can remake them when you realize you have a bad floppy. It must be possible to install Linux on a Thinkpad, because I have read that people have done it, but no one has touched on this particula point. Maybe I'm missing something. They are probably the hardest installation because it requires the tecra disks and sometimes the floppy=thinkpad option. Also, once some people have done it, we never hear from them again, so it makes to hard to know if they gave up on linux, or just decided to not report the successful install. HTH, Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Thinkpad question
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Paul Johnson wrote: Once the floppies are used on bootup, I believe they are not needed again (Makes a ramdisk). So you would boot with the floppy, and do that stuff, then put CD drive in when it asks for it.. I guess I didn't make myself clear. You cannot hot-swap the CD-ROM and Floppy drives, so if you boot from the floppy, you can't put the CD in because there is no CD-ROM DRIVE in the machine. If you turn off the ThinkPad and install the CD-ROM DRIVE, you cannot boot from the floppy. Catch 22. It must be possible to install Linux on a Thinkpad, because I have read that people have done it, but no one has touched on this particula point. Maybe I'm missing something. I have Thinkpad 770 with Debian linux 2.0. (hamm). The floppy disk is a problem. Infact this damn think won't boot correctly from install diskettes. The solution is to use dos partition and loadlin. After you've made up the kernel you wanted you can of course make the linux bootable directly from hard disk. Installing debian on Thinkpad requires some pioneer mentality, but I can assure you that it's well worth of it. If you have any debian on Thinkpad related stuff. I can try to help you. Yours, Timo Multamaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Specialist +358-40-5479523 (Mobile, 24h on) Data Fellows Ltd.LARP RPG Freak, check www.wanderer.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Thinkpad question
I installed debian 1.3 on my thinkpad 760xl and as I recall it wasn't that bad if you had the external floppy drive using a port replicator. so that's about extra $300 or $400 or something (I don't remember) but the drive was (and is) recognized by debian instantly and then I was able to install the whole thing in one shot. I used the tecra disks, by the way. HTH - John Kloss -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
