SOLVED: Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 02:00:05 +0100, deloptes wrote:

> Have you found solution to this.

<> 

I finally (today indeed) took the plunge & switched to testing - this 
brought in Linux 4.3 - full/better support for Intel Skylake chips -
and 
lo and behold!  it lives!

If/As I come upon any further issues, I'll follow up, but as of now
I'm 
so pleased to get rid of the USB sound card & little external speaker 
that I haven't even started sparring with nvidia!

Regards & thanks all for help & ideas

D2

Solved: Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 02:00:05 +0100, deloptes wrote:

> Have you found solution to this.

<> 

I finally (today indeed) took the plunge & switched to testing - this 
brought in Linux 4.3 - full/better support for Intel Skylake chips - and 
lo and behold!  it lives!

If/As I come upon any further issues, I'll follow up, but as of now I'm 
so pleased to get rid of the USB sound card & little external speaker 
that I haven't even started sparring with nvidia!

Regards & thanks all for help & ideas

D2

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

(Sorry if this is a re-post ... I've just (I think) re-registered.)

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:10:02 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:


Thanks Darac .. I'm sorry I missed the first part of your response - 
answered here:

<>

>> 
>> daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]:
Intel
>> Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio [8086:a170] (rev 31)
> 
> To check if this card is supported by your kernel, see if:
> # modinfo snd_hda_intel | grep -i '8086.*a170'
> returns anything.
> 

daud@debian:~$ sudo modinfo snd_hda_intel | grep -i '8086.*a170'
alias:  pci:v8086dA170sv*sd*bc*sc*i*

This means nothing to me, I'm afraid. Supported or not?  I'd be pleased 
for any feedback.

(SIDE QUESTION:
If it is not supported, is there any mileage in upgrading to kernel 4.2 
from jessie-backports?  Is this likely to break ore than I want it to?
I 
may start a new thread on that ... )

The unfiltered output (in case it's any help) is:

root@debian:/home/daud# modinfo snd_hda_intel
filename:   /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-
intel.ko
description:Intel HDA driver
license:GPL
alias:  pci:v1022d*sv*sd*bc04sc03i00*
alias:  pci:v1002d*sv*sd*bc04sc03i00*
alias:  pci:v15ADd1977sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v17F3d3010sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1102d0009sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1102d0012sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1102d0010sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v6549d2200sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v6549d1200sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd*sv*sd*bc04sc03i00*
alias:  pci:v10B9d5461sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1039d7502sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1106d9140sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1106d9170sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1106d3288sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAAB0sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAAA8sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAAA0sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d9902sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA98sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA90sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA88sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA80sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA68sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA60sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA58sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA50sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA48sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA40sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA38sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA30sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA28sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA18sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA10sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA08sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA00sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d970Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d960Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d7919sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d793Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1022d780Dsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d4383sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d437Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d*sv*sd*bc04sc03i00*
alias:  pci:v8086d3A6Esv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d3A3Esv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d293Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d293Esv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d284Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d269Asv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d27D8sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d2668sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d2284sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d0F04sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d080Asv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d811Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d3B56sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d160Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d0D0Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d0C0Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d0A0Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d9D70sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086dA170sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d9CA0sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d9C21sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d9C20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d8D21sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d8D20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d8CA0sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d8C20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d1E20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d1D20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:10:02 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:


Thanks Darac .. I'm sorry I missed the first part of your response - 
answered here:

<>

>> 
>> daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel
>> Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio [8086:a170] (rev 31)
> 
> To check if this card is supported by your kernel, see if:
> # modinfo snd_hda_intel | grep -i '8086.*a170'
> returns anything.
> 

daud@debian:~$ sudo modinfo snd_hda_intel | grep -i '8086.*a170'
alias:  pci:v8086dA170sv*sd*bc*sc*i*

This means nothing to me, I'm afraid. Supported or not?  I'd be pleased 
for any feedback.

(SIDE QUESTION:
If it is not supported, is there any mileage in upgrading to kernel 4.2 
from jessie-backports?  Is this likely to break ore than I want it to? I 
may start a new thread on that ... )

The unfiltered output (in case it's any help) is:

root@debian:/home/daud# modinfo snd_hda_intel
filename:   /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-
intel.ko
description:Intel HDA driver
license:GPL
alias:  pci:v1022d*sv*sd*bc04sc03i00*
alias:  pci:v1002d*sv*sd*bc04sc03i00*
alias:  pci:v15ADd1977sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v17F3d3010sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1102d0009sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1102d0012sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1102d0010sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v6549d2200sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v6549d1200sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd*sv*sd*bc04sc03i00*
alias:  pci:v10B9d5461sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1039d7502sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1106d9140sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1106d9170sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1106d3288sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAAB0sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAAA8sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAAA0sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d9902sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA98sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA90sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA88sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA80sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA68sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA60sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA58sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA50sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA48sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA40sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA38sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA30sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA28sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA18sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA10sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA08sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002dAA00sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d970Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d960Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d7919sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d793Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1022d780Dsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d4383sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v1002d437Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d*sv*sd*bc04sc03i00*
alias:  pci:v8086d3A6Esv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d3A3Esv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d293Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d293Esv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d284Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d269Asv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d27D8sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d2668sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d2284sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d0F04sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d080Asv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d811Bsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d3B56sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d160Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d0D0Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d0C0Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d0A0Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d9D70sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086dA170sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d9CA0sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d9C21sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d9C20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d8D21sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d8D20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d8CA0sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d8C20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d1E20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d1D20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v8086d1C20sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
depends:

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Chris Bannister]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 03:33:13PM +, David Parfitt wrote:
> 
> I've often noticed recommendations to uninstall pulseaudio but never seen 
> a case where it has been reported to work :)  apt-get purge pulseaudio 
> wants to take gnome & lots of other stuff with it :((

JFTR, it worked for me, but I don't run GNOME. 

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Chris Bannister]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:56:32PM +, David Parfitt wrote:
> [This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

Ummm, aren't they all eventually?

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Ric Moore]

On 11/19/2015 01:32 PM, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:

On Thu, November 19, 2015 4:38 am, David Parfitt wrote:

I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of online
research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical ideas,
please.


In my experience, a good work-around is to use an external, usb audio
interface, such as the Lexcon Alpha, which costs about $50 and provides
several significant benefits over on-board sound, whether for laptop or
desktop.  The Alpha is powered off the usb, and typically "just works".


I agree, I'm using nothing but USB sound devices now. The built-in sound 
on my laptop sux, so I use USB headphones when I travel with it. I also 
use them on my desktop, plus a 7.1 sound device, and either works a 
charm switching between them with pavucontrol. I spent less than $30 
each. Happy happy. Ric



--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 17:01 +, David Parfitt wrote:
> I was coming to that conclusion myself, but was hoping upon hope that
> I 
> had just missed something.  It also means, I suppose I have to read
> up on 
> the vagaries of UEFI & installing/running second distros.  Debian was
> straightforward - it even thought to warn me that it wasn't a good
> idea 
> to overwrite the EFI partitiion :)  
> Old dogs :(
> Regards
> Daud2

Not really, just try a live cd/usb first. 

If it works with a later kernel or ALSA it can either be added to your
system, or if testing is preferable it's just a dist-upgrade away. No
need to do another installation. 

That is if you really need more recent drivers, I just skimmed your
message and made a few searches on Google.

(No need to cc me, I'm subscribed!)


-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5





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Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[rlharris]

On Thu, November 19, 2015 12:50 pm, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> Doesn't lugging that thing around defeat the purpose of having a
> laptop? :)

6 inches by 6 inches by 1.5 inches, knobs and all.  To me, the added
package is a small price for features such as headphone jack plus RCA

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[rlharris]

On Thu, November 19, 2015 4:38 am, David Parfitt wrote:
> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of online
> research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical ideas,
> please.

In my experience, a good work-around is to use an external, usb audio
interface, such as the Lexcon Alpha, which costs about $50 and provides
several significant benefits over on-board sound, whether for laptop or
desktop.  The Alpha is powered off the usb, and typically "just works".

Russ

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 12:32 -0600, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> In my experience, a good work-around is to use an external, usb audio
> interface, such as the Lexcon Alpha, which costs about $50 and
> provides
> several significant benefits over on-board sound, whether for laptop
> or
> desktop.  The Alpha is powered off the usb, and typically "just
> works".

Doesn't lugging that thing around defeat the purpose of having a
laptop? :)

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Cheers,
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http://www.whiz.se
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Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

[This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:10:02 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:38:51 + David Parfitt 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all:

>> daud@debian:~$ aplay -l  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
>> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VC Analog [ALC269VC
>> Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
>>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>>   Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> 
> As your soundcard has two outputs, check that you're not outputting
> through the HDMI. In pavucontrol. on the "Configuration" tab, make sure
> the profile is something like "Analog Stereo Duplex" or "Analog Stereo
> Output". Next, go to the "Output" tab and confirm that the port is
> "Speakers" or "Headphones" (as appropriate) and check the volume/muting
> on that tab.
> 

Thx Darac
I'd already checked this.
Regards
Daud2

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Joe]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:50:35 +0100
Sven Arvidsson  wrote:

> On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 12:32 -0600, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> > In my experience, a good work-around is to use an external, usb
> > audio interface, such as the Lexcon Alpha, which costs about $50 and
> > provides
> > several significant benefits over on-board sound, whether for laptop
> > or
> > desktop.  The Alpha is powered off the usb, and typically "just
> > works".  
> 
> Doesn't lugging that thing around defeat the purpose of having a
> laptop? :)
> 

Not really, if you bend your spine carrying a laptop around, it's not
just for email and web surfing. I carry a mains power adaptor, a 12V
adaptor if I'm travelling in someone else's vehicle, various USB cables
and a small hub plus mains power for it, straight and crossover Ethernet
cables plus a back-to-back adaptor, a webcam, a small graphics tablet,
two microcontroller programmers and a USB-serial adaptor cable... and a
small mouse, because I don't get on with those wretched gefingerpoken
devices.

If I just want email and web surfing, I carry a netbook, and only
carry power adaptors if I'm not on foot. Horses, as always, for courses.

-- 
Joe

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Darac Marjal]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:38:51 +
David Parfitt  wrote:

> Hi all:
> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
> online research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical
> ideas, please.
> 
> What I've done:
> 1.  Checked alsamixer & pavucontrol - I can't find anything muted.
> alsamixer shows 'Speakers' as muted at the start of each session.
> Increasing the volume on 'Speakers' (third from left) makes no
> difference.
> 
> The only sound I have achieved at all is when (using alsamixer) I
> raise the levels of 'Mic Boost' high, when I get 'white noise'.  This,
> however, suggests to me that the speakers are functional.
> 
> I even tried these:
> 'The Steve Litt Diagnostic Tools' from
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/sound/downloads/
> unmute_all.sh just hangs after printing its headphones warning.
> 
> 2.  Checked drivers / kernel modules.  These seem to me to be a.
> correct & b. working.  pavumeter shows appropriately fluctuating
> signal levels when I play a track through aplay or through vlc.
> 
> 3.  Torn my hair / crossed my fingers / lost sleep / read a lot - much
> of it outdated (I wish people would date online troubleshooting guides
> etc BEFORE, near the end, it suggests I add (e.g.) etch-backports to
> sources.list).
> 
> I've provided all the relevant information I can think of below - of
> course I'd be happy to provide anything else that would help.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas, please let me know :)  I follow the
> linux.debian.user usenet group on pan regularly, but do not otherwise
> receive e-mails.  You're welcome to e-mail me with any suggestions.
> 
> Regards
> Daud2
> 
> 
> ===
> All the Hardware/Driver/System Info I can think of:
> ===
> 
> daud@debian:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
> 8.2
> 
> daud@debian:~$ uname -a
> Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt17-1 (2015-09-26)
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> daud@debian:~$ gnome-session --version
> gnome-session 3.14.0
> 
> daud@debian:~$ pulseaudio --version
> pulseaudio 5.0
> 
> daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'
> model name: Intel Core i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz
> 
> daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio
> 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD
> Audio [8086:a170] (rev 31)

To check if this card is supported by your kernel, see if:
# modinfo snd_hda_intel | grep -i '8086.*a170'
returns anything.

> 
> daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
>   HDA Intel PCH at 0xdf42 irq 145
> 
> daud@debian:~$ aplay -l
>  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VC Analog [ALC269VC
> Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

As your soundcard has two outputs, check that you're not outputting
through the HDMI. In pavucontrol. on the "Configuration" tab, make sure
the profile is something like "Analog Stereo Duplex" or "Analog Stereo
Output". Next, go to the "Output" tab and confirm that the port is
"Speakers" or "Headphones" (as appropriate) and check the volume/muting
on that tab.

> 
> daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules
>  0 snd_hda_intel
> 
> daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/version
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version k3.16.0-4-amd64
> 
> daud@debian:~$ lsmod | grep snd
> snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45118  1 
> snd_hda_codec_realtek67127  1 
> snd_hda_codec_generic63181  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
> snd_hda_intel  26327  6 
> snd_hda_controller 26646  1 snd_hda_intel
> snd_hda_codec 104500  5
> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_hwdep  13148  1 snd_hda_codec
> snd_pcm88662  4
> snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
> snd65244  20
> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
> soundcore  13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
> 
> daud@debian:~$ aplay "/home/daud/test.mp3"
> Playing raw data '/home/daud/Downloads/test.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit,
> Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
> daud@debian:~$ aplay "/home/daud/ReminderFox.wav"
> Playing WAVE '/home/daud/FilesToSave/ReminderFox.wav' : Signed 16 bit
> Little Endian, Rate 16000 Hz, Mono
> 
> HARDWARE (Manufacturer's List) ( www.pcspecialist.co.uk )
> Chassis & Display Cosmos Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED
> Widescreen (1920x1080)
> Processor (CPU)   Intel Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ
> (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
> Memory 

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 19:59 +, Joe wrote:
> If I just want email and web surfing, I carry a netbook, and only
> carry power adaptors if I'm not on foot. Horses, as always, for
> courses.

Right, but you need an external sound card for that notebook, remember?
;)

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No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

Hi all:
I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of online
research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical ideas,
please.

What I've done:
1.  Checked alsamixer & pavucontrol - I can't find anything muted.
alsamixer shows 'Speakers' as muted at the start of each session.
Increasing the volume on 'Speakers' (third from left) makes no
difference.

The only sound I have achieved at all is when (using alsamixer) I raise
the levels of 'Mic Boost' high, when I get 'white noise'.  This,
however, suggests to me that the speakers are functional.

I even tried these:
'The Steve Litt Diagnostic Tools' from
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/sound/downloads/
unmute_all.sh just hangs after printing its headphones warning.

2.  Checked drivers / kernel modules.  These seem to me to be a. correct
& b. working.  pavumeter shows appropriately fluctuating signal levels
when I play a track through aplay or through vlc.

3.  Torn my hair / crossed my fingers / lost sleep / read a lot - much
of it outdated (I wish people would date online troubleshooting guides
etc BEFORE, near the end, it suggests I add (e.g.) etch-backports to
sources.list).

I've provided all the relevant information I can think of below - of
course I'd be happy to provide anything else that would help.

If anyone has any ideas, please let me know :)  I follow the
linux.debian.user usenet group on pan regularly, but do not otherwise
receive e-mails.  You're welcome to e-mail me with any suggestions.

Regards
Daud2


===
All the Hardware/Driver/System Info I can think of:
===

daud@debian:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
8.2

daud@debian:~$ uname -a
Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt17-1 (2015-09-26)
x86_64 GNU/Linux

daud@debian:~$ gnome-session --version
gnome-session 3.14.0

daud@debian:~$ pulseaudio --version
pulseaudio 5.0

daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'
model name  : Intel Core i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz

daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio
00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio
[8086:a170] (rev 31)

daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
  HDA Intel PCH at 0xdf42 irq 145

daud@debian:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VC Analog [ALC269VC Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules
 0 snd_hda_intel

daud@debian:~$ cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version k3.16.0-4-amd64

daud@debian:~$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45118  1 
snd_hda_codec_realtek67127  1 
snd_hda_codec_generic63181  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel  26327  6 
snd_hda_controller 26646  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 104500  5
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_hwdep  13148  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm88662  4
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
snd65244  20
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
soundcore  13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec

daud@debian:~$ aplay "/home/daud/test.mp3"
Playing raw data '/home/daud/Downloads/test.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate
8000 Hz, Mono
daud@debian:~$ aplay "/home/daud/ReminderFox.wav"
Playing WAVE '/home/daud/FilesToSave/ReminderFox.wav' : Signed 16 bit
Little Endian, Rate 16000 Hz, Mono

HARDWARE (Manufacturer's List) ( www.pcspecialist.co.uk )
Chassis & Display   Cosmos Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED Widescreen
(1920x1080)
Processor (CPU) Intel Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz,
3.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)8GB Kingston SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card   NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M - 2.0GB DDR3 Video RAM - DirectX®
12
Memory - Hard Disk  1TB WD BLUE 2.5" WD10JPVX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 8MB CACHE
(5400 rpm)
mSATA/M.2 SSD Drive 128GB M.2 2280, SATA 6Gb/s (510MB/R, 310MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive   8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)
Memory Card Reader  Internal 9 in 1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD: Mini, XC &
HC/MS: Pro & Duo)
Sound Card  Via 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Bluetooth & WirelessGIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL N-7265 M.2 (300Mbps,
802.11BGN) + BLUETOOTH
USB Options 3 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT AS STANDARD

Audio Chipset   Via™ High Definition Audio Channels 2 channel HD
Audio Connections   Microphone-in and 

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Charlie]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:38:51 + David Parfitt sent:

> Hi all:
> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
> online research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical
> ideas, please.

Sound is a never ending problem with Debian. It's just the way it is,
so I have found it.

Try alsamixer and press F6 and if you have the option of a couple of
sound cards try each one. But it may not stick if you reboot.

Try pulseaudio, you don't always need to use pavucontrol, that works
sometimes but after a reboot it also may fail. Then uninstall it and
try again without and that may work.

Sometimes your headphone jack works and sometimes it doesn't so you
play around with alsamixer and pulseaudio and you can possibly get it
working. I haven't been able to recently.

It's really, try everything till you hit on the combination that works
and depending what audio package you use, you may also have to select
the audio function to get the sound to work. VLC has heaps and you just
work through them till one works. One will probably work?

Or you may plug in a USB stick and get a dialogue up that asks you what
you want to do with the sound configuration, various options. All a bit
hit and miss.

I've never had sound working constantly no matter what brand laptop or
sound card is in the machine. If I want to listen to music or speech on
a video, always have to fiddle to get it working. Done it for so many
years now it has become automagic.

Probably not much help.

Charlie

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Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 10:38 +, David Parfitt wrote:
> Hi all:
> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
> online
> research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical ideas,
> please.
[...]
> 
> daud@debian:~$ uname -a
> Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt17-1 (2015-09-26)
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
[...]
> 
> daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio
> 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD
> Audio
> [8086:a170] (rev 31)

From the above, I would guess that it just isn't supported. Grab a live
cd/usb from something that uses a very recent kernel and see if you get
sound. 

If so, you need to either try a more recent kernel, or maybe even run
testing.

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Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

[This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

Thx for responding, Charlie.

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:30:03 +0100, Charlie wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:38:51 + David Parfitt sent:
> 
>> Hi all:
>> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
>> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
>> online research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical
>> ideas, please.
> 
> Sound is a never ending problem with Debian. It's just the way it is, so
> I have found it.

I never have before.  It's always 'just worked'.  Haven't had a new 
laptop for some time, though.

> 
> Try alsamixer and press F6 and if you have the option of a couple of
> sound cards try each one. But it may not stick if you reboot.

Done & done ... only 'default' and 'HDA Intel PCH' available (and "enter 
device name")

> 
> Try pulseaudio, you don't always need to use pavucontrol, that works
> sometimes but after a reboot it also may fail. Then uninstall it and try
> again without and that may work.

I've often noticed recommendations to uninstall pulseaudio but never seen 
a case where it has been reported to work :)  apt-get purge pulseaudio 
wants to take gnome & lots of other stuff with it :((

> 
> Sometimes your headphone jack works and sometimes it doesn't so you play
> around with alsamixer and pulseaudio and you can possibly get it
> working. I haven't been able to recently.

And so it goes ..

> 
> It's really, try everything till you hit on the combination that works
> and depending what audio package you use, you may also have to select
> the audio function to get the sound to work. VLC has heaps and you just
> work through them till one works. One will probably work?
> 
> Or you may plug in a USB stick
  
What is this?

and get a dialogue up that asks you what
> you want to do with the sound configuration, various options. All a bit
> hit and miss.
> 
> I've never had sound working constantly no matter what brand laptop or
> sound card is in the machine. If I want to listen to music or speech on
> a video, always have to fiddle to get it working. Done it for so many
> years now it has become automagic.
> 
> Probably not much help.

No, in fact, but I'm nonetheless grateful you made the effort.  Thx again.
D2 

> 
> Charlie

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[Ric Moore]

On 11/19/2015 10:33 AM, David Parfitt wrote:

[This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

Thx for responding, Charlie.

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:30:03 +0100, Charlie wrote:


On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:38:51 + David Parfitt sent:


Hi all:
I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
online research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical
ideas, please.


Sound is a never ending problem with Debian. It's just the way it is, so
I have found it.


I never have before.  It's always 'just worked'.  Haven't had a new
laptop for some time, though.



Try alsamixer and press F6 and if you have the option of a couple of
sound cards try each one. But it may not stick if you reboot.


Done & done ... only 'default' and 'HDA Intel PCH' available (and "enter
device name")



Try pulseaudio, you don't always need to use pavucontrol, that works
sometimes but after a reboot it also may fail. Then uninstall it and try
again without and that may work.


I've often noticed recommendations to uninstall pulseaudio but never seen
a case where it has been reported to work :)  apt-get purge pulseaudio
wants to take gnome & lots of other stuff with it :((



Sometimes your headphone jack works and sometimes it doesn't so you play
around with alsamixer and pulseaudio and you can possibly get it
working. I haven't been able to recently.


And so it goes ..


For what it is worth, I have both pulse and my user ric added to the 
audio group in /etc/group. Trouble shooting with a shotgun again. 
Sometimes I get lucky! Ric


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..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

[This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 17:40:02 +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:

> On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 10:38 +, David Parfitt wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> I've newly bought a laptop (details at end) & installed Jessie 8.2.
>> All's well except that I have no sound.  I've done quite a lot of
>> online research but got nowhere.  I'm looking for ANY other practical
>> ideas,
>> please.
> [...]
>> 
>> daud@debian:~$ uname -a Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
>> 3.16.7-ckt17-1 (2015-09-26)
>> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> 
> [...]
>> 
>> daud@debian:~$ lspci -nnk |grep udio 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel
>> Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio [8086:a170] (rev 31)
> 
> From the above, I would guess that it just isn't supported. Grab a live
> cd/usb from something that uses a very recent kernel and see if you get
> sound.
> 
> If so, you need to either try a more recent kernel, or maybe even run
> testing.

Thx Sven.
I was coming to that conclusion myself, but was hoping upon hope that I 
had just missed something.  It also means, I suppose I have to read up on 
the vagaries of UEFI & installing/running second distros.  Debian was 
straightforward - it even thought to warn me that it wasn't a good idea 
to overwrite the EFI partitiion :)  
Old dogs :(
Regards
Daud2

Re: No sound - seeking ideas

[David Parfitt]

[This mail was also posted to linux.debian.user.]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 18:00:02 +0100, Ric Moore wrote:

> 
> For what it is worth, I have both pulse and my user ric added to the
> audio group in /etc/group. Trouble shooting with a shotgun again.
> Sometimes I get lucky! Ric

Thx Ric

Yes I forgot to include that info:

daud@debian:~$ groups
daud cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin scanner 
bluetooth pulse pulse-access

Regards
Daud2