Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important? - curiosity about origin
From: Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net Was it just an odd perception of how the letters l-i-n-u-x would be pronounced? Well, this poor sap, never having heard the word pronouned, and before hearing the Linn-Uhks vs. Lie-nucks debates, came up with the Lie-nucks pronunciation based on regular American English phonetics. You've got a vowel preceding a single hard consonant which is then followed by a single vowel which is followed by a hard consonant. By default, that first vowel is long (though there are many exceptions). For instance, compare: final, fiddle (special 'le' == 'el' rule), liken, limber; liner,linger; etc... Yeah, that's what I meant by odd perception of how to pronounce it-- not following the base English spelling/pronunciation rules you mention. Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hmm. A little worrisome: http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy http://www.anonymizer.com/snoop.cgi )
Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important? - curiosity about origin
On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:25:30AM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: From: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, native English speakers pronounce Linus as Lie-nus (as in Peanuts).. but Linus Torvalds is pronounced Lee-nus, and he says Linux is Lee-nux. If he doesn't know, nobody does! So I'm with him. Since those would suggest only LIE-nucks and LEE-nucks, I still wonder: Where did LIH-nucks come from? Did the sound come through someone speaking a language that has neither the long-e nor long-i sounds (of English) (so only a short i was perceived and repeated)? Was it just an odd perception of how the letters l-i-n-u-x would be pronounced? Well, this poor sap, never having heard the word pronouned, and before hearing the Linn-Uhks vs. Lie-nucks debates, came up with the Lie-nucks pronunciation based on regular American English phonetics. You've got a vowel preceding a single hard consonant which is then followed by a single vowel which is followed by a hard consonant. By default, that first vowel is long (though there are many exceptions). For instance, compare: final, fiddle (special 'le' == 'el' rule), liken, limber; liner,linger; etc... I have a hard time saying Linn-Ucks, just 'cause it doesn't sound right -- whatever that means in American! Same as I have to remind myself to say Gah-Noo instead of Noo (soft g rule in gn dipthong). So, I for one will continue to say lie-nucks and to hell with the pronunciation police! -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important?
From: Tele2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Naturally, the poor saps at KDE didn't get it right. Any fool can say KDE :-() Well, like, k-DUH! Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hmm. A little worrisome: http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy http://www.anonymizer.com/snoop.cgi )
Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important? - curiosity about origin
From: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, native English speakers pronounce Linus as Lie-nus (as in Peanuts).. but Linus Torvalds is pronounced Lee-nus, and he says Linux is Lee-nux. If he doesn't know, nobody does! So I'm with him. Since those would suggest only LIE-nucks and LEE-nucks, I still wonder: Where did LIH-nucks come from? Did the sound come through someone speaking a language that has neither the long-e nor long-i sounds (of English) (so only a short i was perceived and repeated)? Was it just an odd perception of how the letters l-i-n-u-x would be pronounced? Hey, wait: Might it have come from Minix, which I assume is pronounce MINN-... (as in minimal)? That's what Linus started with, right? Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hmm. A little worrisome: http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy http://www.anonymizer.com/snoop.cgi )
Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important?
Its morning I'm at work and you made me laugh. Thanks. Patrick - Original Message - From: Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 4:56 AM Subject: Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important? From: Tele2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Naturally, the poor saps at KDE didn't get it right. Any fool can say KDE :-() Well, like, k-DUH! Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hmm. A little worrisome: http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy http://www.anonymizer.com/snoop.cgi )
Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important?
On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 04:28:59PM -0500, Bart Szyszka wrote: I just read this article and thought the beginning was rather harsh: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,34079,00.html Is the pronunciation of the word 'Linux' that much of an issue? So Because it's rude to pronounce names wrongly? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.
Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important?
On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 12:59:59AM -0800, George Bonser wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Because it's rude to pronounce names wrongly? Leinux or Lienux though a spelling of Linnux would remove all ambiguity. Well, native English speakers pronounce Linus as Lie-nus (as in Peanuts).. but Linus Torvalds is pronounced Lee-nus, and he says Linux is Lee-nux. If he doesn't know, nobody does! So I'm with him. English is just so weird. Lets not have a big row over it. Good suggestion. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.
Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important?
Linus' own pronunciation of linux is not consistent. I've head him use each of the main pronunciation forms at various times, and often within the same conversation or speech. I say we settle it once and for all, and all agree to pronounce it Fred! Exactly, who really cares HOW you say Debian Gnu/Linux ? getting bent over the pronunciation of a couple of words is, quite frankly, stupid. Really, who cares, pronunce it Deb-Ian Gu-new Lee-Nooks if you want to, caill it DEE-bian NEW LEEN-uhcks if you want to. Does it make any difference in the quality of the software? no, it dosen't, So, untill someone (say Linus) comes out with an authoritative pronunciation, could we just leave this alone and get back to improving the operating system we ALL know as Linux? [1] yours, yowlin' and howlin' matt [1]really, who cares, as long as we all know wehat we're talking about. Just Don't call it Fred, then nobody'll know what we're talking about.[2] [2]as long as we don't call it Red Hat :)=) -- Matthew Navarre[EMAIL PROTECTED] Look out honey, 'cause I'm usin' technology...
Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important?
Exactly, who really cares HOW you say Debian Gnu/Linux ? getting bent over the pronunciation of a couple of words is, quite frankly, stupid. I don't think anyone was doing that in this thread specifically, but I was just wondering if the pronunciations are an issue in the Linux community in general because the article I posted an URL for made it sound that way. -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 GigaBee Interactive http://www.gigabee.com Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ARD582
Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important?
Exactly, who really cares HOW you say Debian Gnu/Linux ? getting bent over the pronunciation of a couple of words is, quite frankly, stupid. I don't think anyone was doing that in this thread specifically, but I was just wondering if the pronunciations are an issue in the Linux community in general because the article I posted an URL for made it sound that way. Apollogies, you're right. I've just gotten fairly sick of the issue, had to many people who can't spell ifconfig correcting me on my pronunciation. I didn't mean to come across as abusive or pissed off, I'm just kind of fed up with the whole How does one pronounce Linux? thing. My answer? however one damn well pleases, as long as the others involved in the conversation know what you're talking about. It's just, well..., a trivial thing to worry about. Calm and *reasonably* collected, Matt -- Matthew Navarre[EMAIL PROTECTED] Look out honey, 'cause I'm usin' technology...
Re: Pronounciation of Linux that important?
Linus' own pronunciation of linux is not consistent. I've head him use each of the main pronunciation forms at various times, and often within the same conversation or speech. I say we settle it once and for all, and all agree to pronounce it Fred! That'll confuse those guys in Redmond, huh! David Kachel
