Re: smail won't send mail
Adam Klein writes: It turns out I had my visible_name set to my hostname, which I figured wouldn't be a problem because I was using the special smail tranport. And it seems that for a while at least, it didn't matter. Then my ISP must have changed something, and all of a sudden, I needed to use the correct value of $visible_name. Exactly the same thing happened to me last month. It turns out that the FROM address in the smtp transaction must read [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I'd guess that this is the latest thing in anti-spam-relay techniques. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail won't send mail
On Mon, Dec 08, 1997 at 03:02:09PM -0500, Daniel Martin wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Adam Klein wrote: On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Daniel Martin wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Adam Klein wrote: In the past few days, smail has stopped non-local mail. It returns a message from MAILER-DAEMON saying something like `551: Have you read DNS + BIND'. What's going on? Adam Klein (some stuff I said, leading up to a plug for http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/mybox.html) I'm already using the smail setup described on your page, and it was working great, until a few days ago. Thanks. Ok; hmm... Well, I'm willing to bet that it's still some change your ISP did. Try going through a session manually: After ppp is up, see what value you have for visible_name in /etc/smail/config (when I use $visible_name$ below, I mean for you to use this value). Now see what value you have for the smarthost path variable in /etc/smail/routers. (when I use $smarthost$ below, this is what I mean for you to actually type) [testing suggestion snipped] Now, here's the thing - at some point in this little scenario, you should get the 551 message that smail keeps complaining about. Assuming you do, telling people on the list where the error happens might result in someone being able to solve your problem. However, if you don't get the error message, then something's really screwy, and I'll have to think about how you'd go tracking it down in that case. Thanks! It turns out I had my visible_name set to my hostname, which I figured wouldn't be a problem because I was using the special smail tranport. And it seems that for a while at least, it didn't matter. Then my ISP must have changed something, and all of a sudden, I needed to use the correct value of $visible_name. Thanks again, Adam Klein -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail won't send mail
On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Daniel Martin wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Adam Klein wrote: In the past few days, smail has stopped non-local mail. It returns a message from MAILER-DAEMON saying something like `551: Have you read DNS + BIND'. What's going on? Adam Klein Well, since this problem apparently just came up, it's probably not something you did but rather something your ISP did. Tell me, is the visible name as defined in your /etc/smail/config file a name that corresponds to your machine in the DNS? That is, if your ISP were to do nslookup visible_name would they get your machine's IP address? If your visible name is not something that directly corresponds to your IP address, then your ISP may be doing some kind of weird anti-spam thing which prevents smail from sending outgoing mail. I use ppp, and so have a dynamic IP address. I still manage to set my visible_name so that it looks ok from the outside, though - see http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/mybox.html for for I do it. I'm already using the smail setup described on your page, and it was working great, until a few days ago. Thanks. Adam Klein -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail won't send mail
On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Adam Klein wrote: On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Daniel Martin wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Adam Klein wrote: In the past few days, smail has stopped non-local mail. It returns a message from MAILER-DAEMON saying something like `551: Have you read DNS + BIND'. What's going on? Adam Klein (some stuff I said, leading up to a plug for http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/mybox.html) I'm already using the smail setup described on your page, and it was working great, until a few days ago. Thanks. Ok; hmm... Well, I'm willing to bet that it's still some change your ISP did. Try going through a session manually: After ppp is up, see what value you have for visible_name in /etc/smail/config (when I use $visible_name$ below, I mean for you to use this value). Now see what value you have for the smarthost path variable in /etc/smail/routers. (when I use $smarthost$ below, this is what I mean for you to actually type) Then do: (the parentheses are instructions) telnet $smarthost$ 25 (after you get connected and get the greeting beginning with 220) HELO $visible_name$ (you should get a response beginning with 250) MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (you should get a 250 response, Sender ok) RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (another 250 response, recipient ok) DATA (You should get a 354 response) Subject: Testing mail manually From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is test message text. . (after the line with the period, you should get a 250 response) QUIT (you should get a 221 response and then have the connection close on you) Now, here's the thing - at some point in this little scenario, you should get the 551 message that smail keeps complaining about. Assuming you do, telling people on the list where the error happens might result in someone being able to solve your problem. However, if you don't get the error message, then something's really screwy, and I'll have to think about how you'd go tracking it down in that case. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail won't send mail
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Adam Klein wrote: In the past few days, smail has stopped non-local mail. It returns a message from MAILER-DAEMON saying something like `551: Have you read DNS + BIND'. What's going on? Adam Klein Well, since this problem apparently just came up, it's probably not something you did but rather something your ISP did. Tell me, is the visible name as defined in your /etc/smail/config file a name that corresponds to your machine in the DNS? That is, if your ISP were to do nslookup visible_name would they get your machine's IP address? If your visible name is not something that directly corresponds to your IP address, then your ISP may be doing some kind of weird anti-spam thing which prevents smail from sending outgoing mail. I use ppp, and so have a dynamic IP address. I still manage to set my visible_name so that it looks ok from the outside, though - see http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/mybox.html for for I do it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
