Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-19 Thread Reco 
Hi.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 03:36:12PM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 08:00:10PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Le decadi 30 messidor, an CCXXV, mar...@martinbrandenburg.com a
> > ecrit:
> > > I don't read messages from you or in fact anyone at your domain,
> > > except
> > > this one, because they're written in base64.
> >
> > If you see the base64, then your mail software is broken or
> > hopelessly outdated. Technically, this mail was conform to the
> > standards: even though the base64 encoding was not necessary, it
> > was perfectly legal.
> >
> > That does not mean you should read Fungi4All's mails, though. But do
> > not blame the form, blame the substance.
>
> Well, the OP complaining about HTML and using himself an equally
> stupid encoding had it coming and deserves any critique just for being
> hypocritical.

The encoding in OP's e-mail works just fine for me.
Sending pure HTML e-mail on the other hand in explicitly forbidden by
[1].


> And btw. posting to a high volume mailinglist should always be ASCII
> only and interwoven.

Are you aware that your e-mail contains this wonderful header:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


[1] https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/

Reco

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Joel Rees 
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:58 AM, Dominik George  wrote:
> it? Thanks!
> topic and stop
> gone horribly off-
> that this thread has
> all just agree
> So, can we
> Sent from my very colourful mailer which encodes as it pleases.
>

ROFCOL :)

Just for reference, this thread just misses paralleling a thread on
misc@openbsd:

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc=149984510728808=2

-- 
Joel Rees

One of these days I'll get someone to pay me
to design a language that combines the best of Forth and C.
Then I'll be able to leap wide instruction sets with a single #ifdef,
run faster than a speeding infinite loop with a #define,
and stop all integer size bugs with my bare cast.
http://defining-computers.blogspot.com/2017/06/reinventing-computers.html

More of my delusions:
http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2017/05/do-not-pay-modern-danegeld-ransomware.html
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/p/novels-i-am-writing.html

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Dominik George 
it? Thanks!
topic and stop
gone horribly off-
that this thread has
all just agree
So, can we
Sent from my very colourful mailer which encodes as it pleases.

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Henning Follmann 
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 08:00:10PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le decadi 30 messidor, an CCXXV, mar...@martinbrandenburg.com a écrit :
> > I don't read messages from you or in fact anyone at your domain, except
> > this one, because they're written in base64.
> 
> If you see the base64, then your mail software is broken or hopelessly
> outdated. Technically, this mail was conform to the standards: even
> though the base64 encoding was not necessary, it was perfectly legal.
> 
> That does not mean you should read Fungi4All's mails, though. But do not
> blame the form, blame the substance.
> 

Well, the OP complaining about HTML and using himself an equally stupid
encoding had it coming and deserves any critique just for being
hypocritical.
And btw. posting to a high volume mailinglist should always be ASCII only
and interwoven. 

-H


-- 
Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Fungi4All 
From: geo...@nsup.org
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Le decadi 30 messidor, an CCXXV, mar...@martinbrandenburg.com a écrit :
> I don"t read messages from you or in fact anyone at your domain, except
> this one, because they"re written in base64.
=If you see the base64, then your mail software is broken or hopelessly
=outdated. Technically, this mail was conform to the standards: even
=though the base64 encoding was not necessary, it was perfectly legal.
=
=That does not mean you should read Fungi4All"s mails, though. But do not
=blame the form, blame the substance.
How do you say passive-agressive-psychopath in french? Tell me, I really
like to know!
=Regards,
=
=--
=Nicolas George

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Nicolas George 
Le decadi 30 messidor, an CCXXV, mar...@martinbrandenburg.com a écrit :
> I don't read messages from you or in fact anyone at your domain, except
> this one, because they're written in base64.

If you see the base64, then your mail software is broken or hopelessly
outdated. Technically, this mail was conform to the standards: even
though the base64 encoding was not necessary, it was perfectly legal.

That does not mean you should read Fungi4All's mails, though. But do not
blame the form, blame the substance.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread martin 
> From fungil...@protonmail.com Tue Jul 18 13:32:11 2017
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 05:18:19 -0400
> To: debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> From: Fungi4All <fungil...@protonmail.com>
> Reply-To: Fungi4All <fungil...@protonmail.com>
> Subject: Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> --b1_264fd2e3c1fa8c3e05d3f02c07edf0fd
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>
> Q2FuIHlvdSByZWFkIGl0IG5vdz8KTm9ib2R5IGhhcyBldmVyIGNvbXBsYWluZWQgYWJvdXQgdGhl
> IGVuY29kaW5nIG9mIEVuZ2xpc2ggYmVmb3JlLgpVbmxlc3MgeW91IGFyZSB0aGUgc291cmNlIG9m
> IHRoZSBzcGFtIQpGcm9tOiBmdW5naWxpZmVAcHJvdG9ubWFpbC5jb20KSXQgc2VlbXMgdGhlIHZp
> cnVzIGhhcyBtb3ZlZCBub3cgdG8gVHVya2V5J3Mgc21hcnQgcGhvbmUgY29tbXVuaXR5CklmIHdl
> IGRvIHRoZSBzdGF0cyBpbiBhIG1vbnRoIG9yIHR3byB0aGlzIHdpbGwgYmUgOTAlIG9mIHRoZSBk
> YWlseQp0cmFmZmljLiBXaGVuIEkgdXNlIHRvIHJ1biBsaXN0cyBvZmYgb2YgdW5peCBzZXJ2ZXIg
> YW5kIGZyZWUgb3BlbiBzb2Z0d2FyZQppbiB0aGUgcGFzdCBkZWNhZGUgSSBjYW4gYmxvY2sgbWVz
> c2FnZXMgb3IgY29udGVudCBiYXNlZCBvbiBmb3JtYXQKYW5kIGJhc2VkIG9uIGNvbWluZyBmcm9t
> IG5vbi1saXN0IG1lbWJlcnMuIFdoeSBpcyB0aGlzIHNvIGhhcmQgdG8KZG8/
>
>
> --b1_264fd2e3c1fa8c3e05d3f02c07edf0fd
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>
> PGRpdj5DYW4geW91IHJlYWQgaXQgbm93PyZuYnNwOzxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pk5vYm9keSBoYXMg
> ZXZlciBjb21wbGFpbmVkIGFib3V0IHRoZSBlbmNvZGluZyBvZiBFbmdsaXNoIGJlZm9yZS48YnI+
> PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5Vbmxlc3MgeW91IGFyZSB0aGUgc291cmNlIG9mIHRoZSBzcGFtITwvZGl2Pjxk
> aXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+RnJvbTogZnVuZ2lsaWZlQHByb3Rvbm1haWwuY29tPGJyPjwvZGl2
> PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+SXQgc2VlbXMgdGhlIHZpcnVzIGhhcyBtb3ZlZCBub3cgdG8g
> VHVya2V5J3Mgc21hcnQgcGhvbmUgY29tbXVuaXR5PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+SWYgd2UgZG8gdGhl
> IHN0YXRzIGluIGEgbW9udGggb3IgdHdvIHRoaXMgd2lsbCBiZSA5MCUgb2YgdGhlIGRhaWx5Jm5i
> c3A7PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+dHJhZmZpYy4gJm5ic3A7V2hlbiBJIHVzZSB0byBydW4gbGlzdHMg
> b2ZmIG9mIHVuaXggc2VydmVyIGFuZCBmcmVlIG9wZW4gc29mdHdhcmU8YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5p
> biB0aGUgcGFzdCBkZWNhZGUgSSBjYW4gYmxvY2sgbWVzc2FnZXMgb3IgY29udGVudCBiYXNlZCBv
> biBmb3JtYXQ8YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5hbmQgYmFzZWQgb24gY29taW5nIGZyb20gbm9uLWxpc3Qg
> bWVtYmVycy4gJm5ic3A7V2h5IGlzIHRoaXMgc28gaGFyZCB0bzxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PmRvPzxi
> cj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj4=
>
>
>
> --b1_264fd2e3c1fa8c3e05d3f02c07edf0fd--
>
>
>
>

No, I still can't (easily) read it.

I don't read messages from you or in fact anyone at your domain, except
this one, because they're written in base64.  I also ignore the spam,
instead of replying to it creating even more noise.

Your reply quoting is also completely screwed up.  Please quote and reply
inline or at the bottom.  It would be nice to configure your email
client to insert the correct in-reply-to and references headers for
threading.

And your reply-to line still breaks the list.

Martin

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-18 Thread Fungi4All 
Can you read it now?
Nobody has ever complained about the encoding of English before.
Unless you are the source of the spam!
From: fungil...@protonmail.com
It seems the virus has moved now to Turkey's smart phone community
If we do the stats in a month or two this will be 90% of the daily
traffic. When I use to run lists off of unix server and free open software
in the past decade I can block messages or content based on format
and based on coming from non-list members. Why is this so hard to
do?

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-17 Thread martin 
> From fungil...@protonmail.com Mon Jul 17 17:27:45 2017
> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:18:46 -0400
> From: Fungi4All <fungil...@protonmail.com>
> Reply-To: Fungi4All <fungil...@protonmail.com>
> Subject: Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> --b1_ef90ae8aa07988aa2420d7889fd62a26
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>
> SXQgc2VlbXMgdGhlIHZpcnVzIGhhcyBtb3ZlZCBub3cgdG8gVHVya2V5J3Mgc21hcnQgcGhvbmUg
> Y29tbXVuaXR5CklmIHdlIGRvIHRoZSBzdGF0cyBpbiBhIG1vbnRoIG9yIHR3byB0aGlzIHdpbGwg
> YmUgOTAlIG9mIHRoZSBkYWlseQp0cmFmZmljLiBXaGVuIEkgdXNlIHRvIHJ1biBsaXN0cyBvZmYg
> b2YgdW5peCBzZXJ2ZXIgYW5kIGZyZWUgb3BlbiBzb2Z0d2FyZQppbiB0aGUgcGFzdCBkZWNhZGUg
> SSBjYW4gYmxvY2sgbWVzc2FnZXMgb3IgY29udGVudCBiYXNlZCBvbiBmb3JtYXQKYW5kIGJhc2Vk
> IG9uIGNvbWluZyBmcm9tIG5vbi1saXN0IG1lbWJlcnMuIFdoeSBpcyB0aGlzIHNvIGhhcmQgdG8K
> ZG8/
>
>
> --b1_ef90ae8aa07988aa2420d7889fd62a26
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>
> PGRpdj5JdCBzZWVtcyB0aGUgdmlydXMgaGFzIG1vdmVkIG5vdyB0byBUdXJrZXkncyBzbWFydCBw
> aG9uZSBjb21tdW5pdHk8YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5JZiB3ZSBkbyB0aGUgc3RhdHMgaW4gYSBtb250
> aCBvciB0d28gdGhpcyB3aWxsIGJlIDkwJSBvZiB0aGUgZGFpbHkmbmJzcDs8YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRp
> dj50cmFmZmljLiAmbmJzcDtXaGVuIEkgdXNlIHRvIHJ1biBsaXN0cyBvZmYgb2YgdW5peCBzZXJ2
> ZXIgYW5kIGZyZWUgb3BlbiBzb2Z0d2FyZTxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PmluIHRoZSBwYXN0IGRlY2Fk
> ZSBJIGNhbiBibG9jayBtZXNzYWdlcyBvciBjb250ZW50IGJhc2VkIG9uIGZvcm1hdDxicj48L2Rp
> dj48ZGl2PmFuZCBiYXNlZCBvbiBjb21pbmcgZnJvbSBub24tbGlzdCBtZW1iZXJzLiAmbmJzcDtX
> aHkgaXMgdGhpcyBzbyBoYXJkIHRvPGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+ZG8/PGJyPjwvZGl2Pg==
>
>
>
> --b1_ef90ae8aa07988aa2420d7889fd62a26--
>
>
>
>

Are you aware that your message complaining about people sending
crazy-encoded emails is crazy-encoded?  If you're just going to use
plain 7-bit ASCII, please send it in plain 7-bit ASCII.

Martin

P.S. You've also screwed up the list with your reply-to line.  I should
not have to manually add the list back to the cc line.

Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-17 Thread Fungi4All 
It seems the virus has moved now to Turkey's smart phone community
If we do the stats in a month or two this will be 90% of the daily
traffic. When I use to run lists off of unix server and free open software
in the past decade I can block messages or content based on format
and based on coming from non-list members. Why is this so hard to
do?