Re: enlightenment locks system

1999-04-08 Thread Julio Cesar Gazquez
Rob Mahurin wrote:
 
 I had my system choke and die a couple of times for no good reason
 last week (after 51 days of uptime!).  The first time was a blown
 fuse.  The second, I had both WP and staroffice open (dumb) trying to
 read an excel spreadsheet some cretin sent me.  Started hearing a lot
 of disk activity, suddenly the entire system was frozen.  No mouse
 action, couldn't toggle the NumLock, nothing.  Hard reset, no harm
 done, was fine for a day.  I figured I just ran out of memory since I
 had Netscape running in the background also and resolved to pay more
 attention to such things in the future.

When I was just get my X running at early 1997 with 8 megs, I sometimes
suffer similar symptoms. In fact, the program I was using keep running,
but I was unable to do anything else, so I supposed that the windows
manager
was swapped out entirely. Then, no it don't process further messages
from
X server. Sad stuff.



enlightenment locks system

1999-03-29 Thread Daniel J. Brosemer
On the advice of friends I decided to give enlightenment a go. (and I must
say, from what I saw, it's beautiful!)

A strange thing happened, though.  I started netscape to browse the
package list at www.debian.org to look for esd (the sound thing that it
complained about not having at startup) and things were working well, I
went to the full package list, it got about 25% loaded, and I hit Alt-F to
do a search.  I typed enlightenment figuring I might find some other fun
stuff for it too.  Well, I clicked find and my system came to a screeching
halt (mouse wouldn't even move) for about 60sec.  Then it went and found
the first thing with enlightenment in the description... odd... ok, move
the find window from over the description so I can see what it was...
window moves about 20pixels... screeching halt... I gave this one 5
minutes and it still didn't come back.  ERG!

So, I did a hard reset... fsck whined, made me boot single user to fix a
partition, then I rebooted again... tried E once more only this time not
loading netscape... things were fine for about 1/2 hour.  Killed X,
changed my wm back to wmaker, fired up X, started netscape... things fine
for about 1/2 hour... killed X, changed wm back to E, fired up X, started
netscape, 5 minutes, grinding halt... hard reset... fsck whines... now I'm
not bothering with X.

So something weird is going on with E and netscape... any ideas?  I'm
liking the look of E, I think if I can get it working I'll keep it!

TIA!

-Dano

-- 
 As long as each individual is facing the TV tube alone, formal freedom poses
 no threat to privilege.
   --Noam Chomsky


Re: enlightenment locks system

1999-03-29 Thread Rob Mahurin
I had my system choke and die a couple of times for no good reason
last week (after 51 days of uptime!).  The first time was a blown
fuse.  The second, I had both WP and staroffice open (dumb) trying to
read an excel spreadsheet some cretin sent me.  Started hearing a lot
of disk activity, suddenly the entire system was frozen.  No mouse
action, couldn't toggle the NumLock, nothing.  Hard reset, no harm
done, was fine for a day.  I figured I just ran out of memory since I
had Netscape running in the background also and resolved to pay more
attention to such things in the future.

The next day, I was just playing around in Netscape, loading a
sequence of annoyingly graphics-intensive web pages, and started
hearing the disk activity again.  Lagged over to a xterm and hit
free:  I had zero free swap (out of 64MB).  Killed X real quick,
tried again, was fine.

Netscape, in windows, in my experience, always had a tendency to make
a system run progressively slower until either netscape was closed or
everything crashed.  I hadn't seen it under linux and thought it had
gotten fixed, but now I'm not so sure.  Maybe that's what you ran
into, too?

Rob

On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 06:36:34PM -0500, Daniel J. Brosemer wrote:
 On the advice of friends I decided to give enlightenment a go. (and I must
 say, from what I saw, it's beautiful!)
 
 A strange thing happened, though.  I started netscape to browse the
 package list at www.debian.org to look for esd (the sound thing that it
 complained about not having at startup) and things were working well, I
 went to the full package list, it got about 25% loaded, and I hit Alt-F to
 do a search.  I typed enlightenment figuring I might find some other fun
 stuff for it too.  Well, I clicked find and my system came to a screeching
 halt (mouse wouldn't even move) for about 60sec.  Then it went and found
 the first thing with enlightenment in the description... odd... ok, move
 the find window from over the description so I can see what it was...
 window moves about 20pixels... screeching halt... I gave this one 5
 minutes and it still didn't come back.  ERG!
 
 So, I did a hard reset... fsck whined, made me boot single user to fix a
 partition, then I rebooted again... tried E once more only this time not
 loading netscape... things were fine for about 1/2 hour.  Killed X,
 changed my wm back to wmaker, fired up X, started netscape... things fine
 for about 1/2 hour... killed X, changed wm back to E, fired up X, started
 netscape, 5 minutes, grinding halt... hard reset... fsck whines... now I'm
 not bothering with X.
 
 So something weird is going on with E and netscape... any ideas?  I'm
 liking the look of E, I think if I can get it working I'll keep it!
 
 TIA!
 
 -Dano
 
 -- 
  As long as each individual is facing the TV tube alone, formal freedom poses
  no threat to privilege.
--Noam Chomsky

-- 
Summit meetings tend to be like panda matings.  The expectations are always 
high, and the results usually disappointing.
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