Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 12:30:37AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 18/10/21 2:55 am, john doe wrote:
> > With W10 you have also the possibility of using 'WLS' an order
> > alternative would be to install Debian as a VM.
> 
> I think perhaps you mean WSL - Windows Subsystem for Linux?
> 
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install
> 
> I've never used it myself.
> 
> Richard
> 

WSL2 - effectively a layer that sits on Hyper-V shim and can talk to 
Windows subsystems. Allows you to run Debian as a VM, effectively.

Debian WSL2 bundle is maintained by a Debian developer.

Andy C.

Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

[Richard Hector]

On 18/10/21 2:55 am, john doe wrote:

With W10 you have also the possibility of using 'WLS' an order
alternative would be to install Debian as a VM.


I think perhaps you mean WSL - Windows Subsystem for Linux?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install

I've never used it myself.

Richard

Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

[Patrick Bartek]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 09:00:52 -0400
JAMES BOSWELL  wrote:

> if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be
> able to effectively run debian on this laptop?

The best way to find that out is to get a Live version of Debian, and
see if boots and runs without problems.

> Device name LAPTOP-R4DB7V5U
> Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz   2.59 GHz
> Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable)
> Device ID CAACC244-37B7-4294-84E4-E73B9C030FDF
> Product ID 00356-02325-39311-AAOEM
> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
> Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
> 
> Edition Windows 10 Home
> Version 21H1
> Installed on ‎4/‎2/‎2021
> OS build 19043.1288
> Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0
> 
> i know about enough to fill a thimble but i'm hopeful and any guidance
> would be greatly appreciated and i would follow it to the T's

Since your knowledge of Linux admittedly is severely lacking, I would
recommend thoroughly researching Linux, in general, and Debian, in
particularly, BEFORE attempting any install. And the first attempt be
on a system you don't mind trashing.

And always keep in mind: Linux is NOT Windows.  So never assume that
the way you did it on Windows will work on Linux.

Welcome to the neighborhood.

B

Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

[David Christensen]

On 10/17/21 6:00 AM, JAMES BOSWELL wrote:

if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to
effectively run debian on this laptop?

Device name LAPTOP-R4DB7V5U
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz   2.59 GHz
Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable)
Device ID CAACC244-37B7-4294-84E4-E73B9C030FDF
Product ID 00356-02325-39311-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎4/‎2/‎2021
OS build 19043.1288
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0

i know about enough to fill a thimble but i'm hopeful and any guidance
would be greatly appreciated and i would follow it to the T's



You processor has hardware support for virtualization:

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/196451/intel-core-i310110u-processor-4m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz.html

Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡ Yes
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡ Yes
Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡ Yes


I recommend that you install Oracle VirtualBox, create a virtual machine 
(VM), and install Debian GNU/Linux into the VM:


https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads


David

Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

[Jude DaShiell]

I think the o.p. may have got debian linux confused with debian lynx that
makes more sense over here.  Many Linux distros have code words for each
major version of their distributions.  The current stable code word for
debian is bullseye.  I've been installing debian since sarge and remember
no lynx code word attached to any debian version.


On Sun, 17 Oct 2021, Dan Ritter wrote:

> Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > JAMES BOSWELL wrote:
> > > > install debian lynx
> >
> > Dan Ritter
> > > Lynx is a text-mode web browser. Did you mean Debian bullseye,
> >
> > I rather guess that "Debian GNU/Lynx, The Unyversl operating system"
> > is meant. ;-)
> >
>
> Ah, you think it's a spieling error. Reasonable.
>
> -dsr-
>
>

Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

[Dan Ritter]

Thomas Schmitt wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> JAMES BOSWELL wrote:
> > > install debian lynx
> 
> Dan Ritter
> > Lynx is a text-mode web browser. Did you mean Debian bullseye,
> 
> I rather guess that "Debian GNU/Lynx, The Unyversl operating system"
> is meant. ;-)
> 

Ah, you think it's a spieling error. Reasonable.

-dsr-

Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

[David Wright]

On Sun 17 Oct 2021 at 09:00:52 (-0400), JAMES BOSWELL wrote:
> if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to
> effectively run debian on this laptop?

How big is the hard drive, and how much space is currently occupied?

Cheers,
David.

Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

JAMES BOSWELL wrote:
> > install debian lynx

Dan Ritter
> Lynx is a text-mode web browser. Did you mean Debian bullseye,

I rather guess that "Debian GNU/Lynx, The Unyversl operating system"
is meant. ;-)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

[Dan Ritter]

JAMES BOSWELL wrote: 
> if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to
> effectively run debian on this laptop?
> 
> Device name LAPTOP-R4DB7V5U
> Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz   2.59 GHz
> Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable)
> Product ID 00356-02325-39311-AAOEM
> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Lynx is a text-mode web browser. Did you mean Debian bullseye,
which is the current stable version?

Bullseye should not have a problem with this laptop. If you need
to install via wifi rather than wired ethernet, you should start
with the non-free firmware installer:

https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/

-dsr-

Re: question from total newbie. a little help please

[john doe]

On 10/17/2021 3:00 PM, JAMES BOSWELL wrote:

if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to
effectively run debian on this laptop?



You are planning on creating a 'multiboot' with Debian and Windows!

The best thing that I can suggest is to Google 'multiboot Bullseye and
Windows10'.


i know about enough to fill a thimble but i'm hopeful and any guidance
would be greatly appreciated and i would follow it to the T's



With W10 you have also the possibility of using 'WLS' an order
alternative would be to install Debian as a VM.
If you choose to go the VM way Virtualbox and Qemu are working fine on
Windows.

I would say that 'WLS' and 'VB/Qemu' are less prone to crashing your laptop.

--
John Doe

question from total newbie. a little help please

[JAMES BOSWELL]

if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to
effectively run debian on this laptop?

Device name LAPTOP-R4DB7V5U
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz   2.59 GHz
Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable)
Device ID CAACC244-37B7-4294-84E4-E73B9C030FDF
Product ID 00356-02325-39311-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎4/‎2/‎2021
OS build 19043.1288
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0

i know about enough to fill a thimble but i'm hopeful and any guidance
would be greatly appreciated and i would follow it to the T's

Re: Peter -- Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Peter Ehlert]

On 2/16/19 5:41 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, February 15, 2019 10:39:58 PM Peter Ehlert wrote:

I don't really know,

What don't you really know?  It would be a lot easier to know what you're
talking about if you put your answer under the relevant question (i.e., not
top posting)
Pardon me. Sorry I confused you. My email client on my cell phone does 
not have that ability.

it is a net install, draws the current packages
from the repos... so it must have access. no wire was plunged in and my
wifi adapter needed iwiwifi-7260-17.ucode and asked for it.
The installer seems to Only install needed/desired packages.
for example, I did Not want the "default Debian desktop" (gnome) and
wanted only Mate... so I got exactly that, and less cruft.

I do like Buster, and it will be the new "stable" in a few months.
Buster is running on one of my machines, and has had no problems for
several months.
There is a lot of vetting to even get to "testing" aka Buster, I suspect
there will be little change before it goes mainstream.

On 2/15/19 8:49 AM, deb wrote:

On 2/15/2019 11:01 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:

Buster install on 820 Friday, February 15 2019
on USB #1: firmware-buster-DI-alpha5-amd64-netinst.iso
I also have on USB #2: firmware-9.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso

booted with #1, ... It did ask for firmware, I put #2 in and pressed
"continue" and install continued and I was able to select my wifi

Hopefully the same will work for you

Thanks Peter

This will be my fallback.

It will ask me if it then uses those ISOs to install OTHER firmware
things, correct?


I don't want an Ubuntu-scenario, where it just dumps in all kinds of
non-free things to make a nice "user experience".


ps

How's Buster overall?

Should I just jump to that?


Thanks!

Re: Peter -- Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[rhkramer]

On Friday, February 15, 2019 10:39:58 PM Peter Ehlert wrote:
> I don't really know, 

What don't you really know?  It would be a lot easier to know what you're 
talking about if you put your answer under the relevant question (i.e., not 
top posting)

> it is a net install, draws the current packages
> from the repos... so it must have access. no wire was plunged in and my
> wifi adapter needed iwiwifi-7260-17.ucode and asked for it.
> The installer seems to Only install needed/desired packages.
> for example, I did Not want the "default Debian desktop" (gnome) and
> wanted only Mate... so I got exactly that, and less cruft.
> 
> I do like Buster, and it will be the new "stable" in a few months.
> Buster is running on one of my machines, and has had no problems for
> several months.
> There is a lot of vetting to even get to "testing" aka Buster, I suspect
> there will be little change before it goes mainstream.
> 
> On 2/15/19 8:49 AM, deb wrote:
> > On 2/15/2019 11:01 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> >> Buster install on 820 Friday, February 15 2019
> >> on USB #1: firmware-buster-DI-alpha5-amd64-netinst.iso
> >> I also have on USB #2: firmware-9.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
> >> 
> >> booted with #1, ... It did ask for firmware, I put #2 in and pressed
> >> "continue" and install continued and I was able to select my wifi
> >> 
> >> Hopefully the same will work for you
> > 
> > Thanks Peter
> > 
> > This will be my fallback.
> > 
> > It will ask me if it then uses those ISOs to install OTHER firmware
> > things, correct?
> > 
> > 
> > I don't want an Ubuntu-scenario, where it just dumps in all kinds of
> > non-free things to make a nice "user experience".
> > 
> > 
> > ps
> > 
> > How's Buster overall?
> > 
> > Should I just jump to that?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!

Re: Peter -- Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Peter Ehlert]

I don't really know, it is a net install, draws the current packages 
from the repos... so it must have access. no wire was plunged in and my 
wifi adapter needed iwiwifi-7260-17.ucode and asked for it.

The installer seems to Only install needed/desired packages.
for example, I did Not want the "default Debian desktop" (gnome) and 
wanted only Mate... so I got exactly that, and less cruft.


I do like Buster, and it will be the new "stable" in a few months.
Buster is running on one of my machines, and has had no problems for 
several months.
There is a lot of vetting to even get to "testing" aka Buster, I suspect 
there will be little change before it goes mainstream.


On 2/15/19 8:49 AM, deb wrote:


On 2/15/2019 11:01 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:

Buster install on 820 Friday, February 15 2019
on USB #1: firmware-buster-DI-alpha5-amd64-netinst.iso
I also have on USB #2: firmware-9.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso

booted with #1, ... It did ask for firmware, I put #2 in and pressed 
"continue" and install continued and I was able to select my wifi


Hopefully the same will work for you



Thanks Peter

This will be my fallback.

It will ask me if it then uses those ISOs to install OTHER firmware 
things, correct?



I don't want an Ubuntu-scenario, where it just dumps in all kinds of 
non-free things to make a nice "user experience".



ps

How's Buster overall?

Should I just jump to that?


Thanks!

Peter -- Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[deb]

On 2/15/2019 11:01 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:

Buster install on 820 Friday, February 15 2019
on USB #1: firmware-buster-DI-alpha5-amd64-netinst.iso
I also have on USB #2: firmware-9.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso

booted with #1, ... It did ask for firmware, I put #2 in and pressed 
"continue" and install continued and I was able to select my wifi


Hopefully the same will work for you



Thanks Peter

This will be my fallback.

It will ask me if it then uses those ISOs to install OTHER firmware 
things, correct?



I don't want an Ubuntu-scenario, where it just dumps in all kinds of 
non-free things to make a nice "user experience".



ps

How's Buster overall?

Should I just jump to that?


Thanks!

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Peter Ehlert]

Buster install on 820 Friday, February 15 2019
on USB #1: firmware-buster-DI-alpha5-amd64-netinst.iso
I also have on USB #2: firmware-9.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso

booted with #1, ... It did ask for firmware, I put #2 in and pressed 
"continue" and install continued and I was able to select my wifi


Hopefully the same will work for you

On 2/11/19 10:33 AM, deb wrote:


Hello folks:

When I hit the networking section on a fresh install of 9.6 (full 
install .ISO, not live),


I'm told to insert a USB of these non-free bits.

   iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-25.ucode, 
iwlwifi-8625-24.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-23.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-22.ucode



The Problem is - I can't find 26-to-23 anywhere online.

My research attempts are below.


Questions:

==

* What *are* 26, 25, 24, 23 for? I'm guessing Intel wifi; as that's 
what I believe -22 is for.


   But I don't see 26 to 23 listed anywhere...

* wouldn't it be useful for the installer to Also say what exact 
hardware it is, that is requiring various bits & pieces?



Hardware:

===

 * 1 yr old Intel NUC, i7; new.

 * Crucial memory, new.

 * Kingston A400 SSD, new.

 * aforementioned full 9.6 Stretch install .iso on a USB stick. I'm 
using the graphical install.



  My research attempts before emailing the list, are below.

==

1. THIS is a good resource, from a fellow with a similar 
Jessie-related problem.


https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-provide-non-free-firmware-files-to-the-debian-jessie-installer-4175542680/ 



    However neither this, nor the /stretch versions have anything on 
26-23.


2. The archive files that I found with -22, do not include any 26-23 
files.


3. Package Search turns up nothing:

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stretch=any=filename=contents=8625 



4. Intel's current wireless section only has -22 files.

    (also see 2. above)

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/05511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html?wapkw=iwlwifi 



5. A flat out search turns up nothing.

https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode=web=opensearch=english 




A spot of help please?

Thank you

Re: (Alexander) Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Richard Hector]

On 14/02/19 2:30 AM, deb wrote:
> Thank you Alexander.
> 
> I kinda like the idea of pulling the Intel wifi and just going with a
> Think Penguin free software wifi.
> 
> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb
> 
> 
The one that says: "Debian 7, 8, & 9 require the installation of
firmware. See our support documentation for details."?

Looks like it needs non-free firmware (firmware-atheros) - until buster.

https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc

Richard





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(Alexander) Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[deb]

On 2/12/2019 3:25 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

In response to that painful "(still installing 9.7 ...)".
You can also use these official and unofficial at the same time images
to install Debian. [1]
As a last resort you can disassemble laptop and physically remove Intel
WiFi NIC before installation and put it back after installation is
successful.
Depending on the model of laptop that procedure could be a matter of
unplugging battery and unscrewing a few screws to remove plastic cover.
But if you are not feeling comfortable doing that then skip this suggestion.

[1]
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/



Thank you Alexander.

I kinda like the idea of pulling the Intel wifi and just going with a 
Think Penguin free software wifi.


https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb


I hear you on this:


https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/


But I kind of want to know what all Debian is indeed pulling in, 
non-free wise.


(I may need to go the full non-free CD route though; if I can't find 
those files elsewhere).



Thank you!

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 12.02.2019 3:46, deb wrote:
>
> Thanks ~everyone:
>
> Do I gather correctly that Brian is the resident, sarcastic,
> cranky-pants herein?
>
> I stopped reading his replies to folks.
>
>
>  anyways:
>
> > A suggestion, especially when installing on unfamiliar hardware, is
> to download the firmware archive for your platform and unpack it into
> a directory named firmware
>
> I hear you on this @Peter^
>
> I guess I'm kinda with Debian, in that I really want to know which
> non-free bits are being added in.
>
> Providing a directory with EVERYTHING in there for it to be
> auto-loaded everywhere scares me.
>
>
> @Étienne -- I'll try the -22.ucode alone one next -- but your warning
> on not using 9.7 strikes home.
>
> I'm going to do that next  ... getting the 9.7 .iso going, that is.
>
>
> Thanks for the helpful replies!
>
>
In response to that painful "(still installing 9.7 ...)".
You can also use these official and unofficial at the same time images
to install Debian. [1]
As a last resort you can disassemble laptop and physically remove Intel
WiFi NIC before installation and put it back after installation is
successful.
Depending on the model of laptop that procedure could be a matter of
unplugging battery and unscrewing a few screws to remove plastic cover.
But if you are not feeling comfortable doing that then skip this suggestion.

[1]
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

-- 
With kindest regards, Alexander.

⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ 
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org
⠈⠳⣄ 

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[David Wright]

On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 17:46:19 (-0500), deb wrote:
> [ Peter wrote: ]
> > A suggestion, especially when installing on unfamiliar hardware, is
> to download the firmware archive for your platform and unpack it into
> a directory named firmware
> 
> I hear you on this @Peter^
> 
> I guess I'm kinda with Debian, in that I really want to know which
> non-free bits are being added in.
> 
> Providing a directory with EVERYTHING in there for it to be
> auto-loaded everywhere scares me.
> 
> @Étienne -- I'll try the -22.ucode alone one next -- but your warning
> on not using 9.7 strikes home.
> 
> I'm going to do that next  ... getting the 9.7 .iso going, that is.

I don't know how it works in the graphical install, but with text you
can see log messages scroll by on VC4, and/or get a shell on VC2 or 3
to examine it at /var/log/syslog. (At the end of the installation, it
gets copied to /var/log/installer/syslog on the new system.)

grep 'firmware'on this file will show exactly what's been loaded.
If you're concerned, you could put just those pieces of firmware onto
a USB stick and then throw that installation away and start over.
(I read that you're doing that anyway, because of the apt bug.)

BTW sometimes the installation will succeed even without the firmware
being present (where it just enhances the functionality of the device).
It might not work for your case.

Cheers,
David.

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Brian]

On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 17:46:19 -0500, deb wrote:

> Do I gather correctly that Brian is the resident, sarcastic, cranky-pants
> herein?

Flatterer.

-- 
Brian.

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Étienne Mollier]

deb, on 2019-02-11 :
> Do I gather correctly that Brian is the resident, sarcastic,
> cranky-pants herein?
>
> I stopped reading his replies to folks.

Well, I prefer to make no assumptions about people just by
looking on the content of two emails.  After all the first
intervention from Brian has most probably been legitimate.
Sometimes, mail takes time to be carried to the box, and that
kind of collisions may arrive.  And should he be "a" resident
sarcastic whatever, he certainly is not "The" resident.  :^)

There are fellows here with "to the point", "efficient",
"Crocker rules" language, sometimes a bit harsh to read, but
definitely worth reading when dealing with very technical
problems. "Always assume good faith."

Stay in the list during a month or so, to get the temperature,
or dig in archives:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/

Also, get used to non-top posting.  :^)


> @Étienne -- I'll try the -22.ucode alone one next -- but your
> warning on not using 9.7 strikes home.
>
> I'm going to do that next  ... getting the 9.7 .iso going,
> that is.

Usually, keeping old ISO is not that a problem, it's just that
since the package manager does automatically retrieve packages
during system installation, and since it has been affected by a
security vulnerability in the retrieving process, at this very
instance, keeping old ISO is a concern.

I suppose that you could also proceed to installation offline,
and follow the recommendations to proceed to the upgrade of the
package manager without being exposed to the vulnerability, but
that is definitely not recommended for the beginner, or the
security wary (I look at you unattended-upgrades).

Kind Regards,
-- 
Étienne Mollier 

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[deb]

Thanks ~everyone:

Do I gather correctly that Brian is the resident, sarcastic, 
cranky-pants herein?


I stopped reading his replies to folks.


 anyways:

> A suggestion, especially when installing on unfamiliar hardware, is 
to download the firmware archive for your platform and unpack it into a 
directory named firmware


I hear you on this @Peter^

I guess I'm kinda with Debian, in that I really want to know which 
non-free bits are being added in.


Providing a directory with EVERYTHING in there for it to be auto-loaded 
everywhere scares me.



@Étienne -- I'll try the -22.ucode alone one next -- but your warning on 
not using 9.7 strikes home.


I'm going to do that next  ... getting the 9.7 .iso going, that is.


Thanks for the helpful replies!


On 2/11/2019 3:08 PM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
the last time I had such a problem (Buster net install using wifi) I 
bookmarked this

https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware#Firmware_during_the_installation

I believe restarting the installer (from USB) with a second USB 
inserted with the firmware solved it... needed packages were found and 
used.


sorry, I don't have my notes, and my memory is crap today

On 2/11/19 10:33 AM, deb wrote:


Hello folks:

When I hit the networking section on a fresh install of 9.6 (full 
install .ISO, not live),


I'm told to insert a USB of these non-free bits.

   iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-25.ucode, 
iwlwifi-8625-24.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-23.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-22.ucode



The Problem is - I can't find 26-to-23 anywhere online.

My research attempts are below.


Questions:

==

* What *are* 26, 25, 24, 23 for? I'm guessing Intel wifi; as that's 
what I believe -22 is for.


   But I don't see 26 to 23 listed anywhere...

* wouldn't it be useful for the installer to Also say what exact 
hardware it is, that is requiring various bits & pieces?



Hardware:

===

 * 1 yr old Intel NUC, i7; new.

 * Crucial memory, new.

 * Kingston A400 SSD, new.

 * aforementioned full 9.6 Stretch install .iso on a USB stick. I'm 
using the graphical install.



  My research attempts before emailing the list, are below.

==

1. THIS is a good resource, from a fellow with a similar 
Jessie-related problem.


https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-provide-non-free-firmware-files-to-the-debian-jessie-installer-4175542680/ 



    However neither this, nor the /stretch versions have anything on 
26-23.


2. The archive files that I found with -22, do not include any 26-23 
files.


3. Package Search turns up nothing:

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stretch=any=filename=contents=8625 



4. Intel's current wireless section only has -22 files.

    (also see 2. above)

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/05511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html?wapkw=iwlwifi 



5. A flat out search turns up nothing.

https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode=web=opensearch=english 




A spot of help please?

Thank you

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Peter Ehlert]

the last time I had such a problem (Buster net install using wifi) I 
bookmarked this

https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware#Firmware_during_the_installation

I believe restarting the installer (from USB) with a second USB inserted 
with the firmware solved it... needed packages were found and used.


sorry, I don't have my notes, and my memory is crap today

On 2/11/19 10:33 AM, deb wrote:


Hello folks:

When I hit the networking section on a fresh install of 9.6 (full 
install .ISO, not live),


I'm told to insert a USB of these non-free bits.

   iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-25.ucode, 
iwlwifi-8625-24.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-23.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-22.ucode



The Problem is - I can't find 26-to-23 anywhere online.

My research attempts are below.


Questions:

==

* What *are* 26, 25, 24, 23 for? I'm guessing Intel wifi; as that's 
what I believe -22 is for.


   But I don't see 26 to 23 listed anywhere...

* wouldn't it be useful for the installer to Also say what exact 
hardware it is, that is requiring various bits & pieces?



Hardware:

===

 * 1 yr old Intel NUC, i7; new.

 * Crucial memory, new.

 * Kingston A400 SSD, new.

 * aforementioned full 9.6 Stretch install .iso on a USB stick. I'm 
using the graphical install.



  My research attempts before emailing the list, are below.

==

1. THIS is a good resource, from a fellow with a similar 
Jessie-related problem.


https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-provide-non-free-firmware-files-to-the-debian-jessie-installer-4175542680/ 



    However neither this, nor the /stretch versions have anything on 
26-23.


2. The archive files that I found with -22, do not include any 26-23 
files.


3. Package Search turns up nothing:

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stretch=any=filename=contents=8625 



4. Intel's current wireless section only has -22 files.

    (also see 2. above)

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/05511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html?wapkw=iwlwifi 



5. A flat out search turns up nothing.

https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode=web=opensearch=english 




A spot of help please?

Thank you

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Brian]

On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 14:01:06 -0600, David Wright wrote:

> Are you sure about 8625, rather than 8265?

Well-spotted.

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-iwlwifi

-- 
Brian. 

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Brian]

On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 20:42:10 +0100, Étienne Mollier wrote:

> I believe I found those firmware images in the package
> firmware-misc-nonfree.  You can install it using:

I believe you have not.

https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/firmware-misc-nonfree/filelist

-- 
Brian.

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[David Wright]

On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 13:33:39 (-0500), deb wrote:
> 
> Hello folks:
> 
> When I hit the networking section on a fresh install of 9.6 (full
> install .ISO, not live),
> 
> I'm told to insert a USB of these non-free bits.
> 
>    iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-25.ucode,
> iwlwifi-8625-24.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-23.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-22.ucode

Are you sure about 8625, rather than 8265?

> The Problem is - I can't find 26-to-23 anywhere online.
> 
> My research attempts are below.
> 
> 
> Questions:
> 
> ==
> 
> * What *are* 26, 25, 24, 23 for? I'm guessing Intel wifi; as that's
> what I believe -22 is for.
> 
>    But I don't see 26 to 23 listed anywhere...
> 
> * wouldn't it be useful for the installer to Also say what exact
> hardware it is, that is requiring various bits & pieces?
> 
> 
> Hardware:
> 
> ===
> 
>  * 1 yr old Intel NUC, i7; new.
> 
>  * Crucial memory, new.
> 
>  * Kingston A400 SSD, new.
> 
>  * aforementioned full 9.6 Stretch install .iso on a USB stick. I'm
> using the graphical install.
> 
> 
>   My research attempts before emailing the list, are below.
> 
> ==
> 
> 1. THIS is a good resource, from a fellow with a similar
> Jessie-related problem.
> 
> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-provide-non-free-firmware-files-to-the-debian-jessie-installer-4175542680/
> 
>     However neither this, nor the /stretch versions have anything on 26-23.
> 
> 2. The archive files that I found with -22, do not include any 26-23 files.
> 
> 3. Package Search turns up nothing:
> 
> https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stretch=any=filename=contents=8625
> 
> 4. Intel's current wireless section only has -22 files.
> 
>     (also see 2. above)
> 
> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/05511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html?wapkw=iwlwifi
> 
> 5. A flat out search turns up nothing.
> 
> https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode=web=opensearch=english
  ↑↑

Cheers,
David.

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Étienne Mollier]

On 2/11/19 8:42 PM, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> I believe I found those firmware images in the package
> firmware-misc-nonfree.  You can install it using:
> 
>   $ sudo apt install firmware-misc-nonfree

Whoopsie, one should read "firmware-iwlwifi".
Anyway, the iwlwifi-8625-22.ucode alone should do.
You can copy the following package on your USB key for
another installation attempt:


http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-iwlwifi_20180825%2Bdfsg-1~bpo9%2B1_all.deb

Kind Regards,
-- 
Étienne Mollier 

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Étienne Mollier]

Good Day,

Usually this shouldn't be an issue, but due to the nature of
the recent vulnerability in the package installer APT, any
Debian ISO up to 9.6 should be trashed and replaced by 9.7 or
greater.

See https://www.debian.org/security/2019/dsa-4371
and https://www.debian.org/News/2019/20190123

Now the topic...

deb, on 2019-02-11:
> I'm told to insert a USB of these non-free bits.
>
>iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-25.ucode,
>iwlwifi-8625-24.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-23.ucode,
>iwlwifi-8625-22.ucode
>
> The Problem is - I can't find 26-to-23 anywhere online.

I believe I found those firmware images in the package
firmware-misc-nonfree.  You can install it using:

$ sudo apt install firmware-misc-nonfree

Then reboot.  If it doesn't work on first try, you may need to
use the package from the repository stretch-backports instead.

Kind Regards,
-- 
Étienne Mollier 

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[Brian]

On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 13:33:39 -0500, deb wrote:

[...]

> * wouldn't it be useful for the installer to Also say what exact hardware it
> is, that is requiring various bits & pieces?

As far as I can see, you haven't given which hardware you are using either.

-- 
Brian.

(Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

[deb]

Hello folks:

When I hit the networking section on a fresh install of 9.6 (full 
install .ISO, not live),


I'm told to insert a USB of these non-free bits.

   iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-25.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-24.ucode, 
iwlwifi-8625-23.ucode, iwlwifi-8625-22.ucode



The Problem is - I can't find 26-to-23 anywhere online.

My research attempts are below.


Questions:

==

* What *are* 26, 25, 24, 23 for? I'm guessing Intel wifi; as that's what 
I believe -22 is for.


   But I don't see 26 to 23 listed anywhere...

* wouldn't it be useful for the installer to Also say what exact 
hardware it is, that is requiring various bits & pieces?



Hardware:

===

 * 1 yr old Intel NUC, i7; new.

 * Crucial memory, new.

 * Kingston A400 SSD, new.

 * aforementioned full 9.6 Stretch install .iso on a USB stick. I'm 
using the graphical install.



  My research attempts before emailing the list, are below.

==

1. THIS is a good resource, from a fellow with a similar Jessie-related 
problem.


https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-provide-non-free-firmware-files-to-the-debian-jessie-installer-4175542680/

    However neither this, nor the /stretch versions have anything on 26-23.

2. The archive files that I found with -22, do not include any 26-23 files.

3. Package Search turns up nothing:

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stretch=any=filename=contents=8625

4. Intel's current wireless section only has -22 files.

    (also see 2. above)

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/05511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html?wapkw=iwlwifi

5. A flat out search turns up nothing.

https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode=web=opensearch=english


A spot of help please?

Thank you

Re: help please

[Michael Fothergill]

On 22 April 2017 at 10:32, CoreyL  wrote:

> this is my account and yet someone else is controlling it. I know for a
> fact .
>
> coreylendo
>

​What sort of account are you referring to (e.g. bank account?)

Regards

MF​

help please

[CoreyL]

this is my account and yet someone else is controlling it. I know for a fact .

coreylendo 

Re: bash help please

[David Christensen]

On 06/09/2016 10:04 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> And I just amrecover'd a week old version that is working fairly well


On 06/09/2016 10:06 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Friday 10 June 2016 00:00:12 David Christensen wrote:


If that doesn't help, post a complete script that demonstrates the
problem.


I might just take you up on that when I am ready to add another layer of
bulletproofing to it.  Its about 110 lines now.


Another layer and then debug/ test?  Yikes!


As one of the smartest people I knew put it: "Design from the top down, 
but build from the bottom up".



My software works best if I:

1.  Use a source code version control system and do frequent check-ins.

2.  Divide the functionality into little pieces and test each piece 
individually, then test the first level up (assemblies of pieces), then 
the next layer up (assemblies of assemblies of pieces), and so on up to 
the top-level (user interface).


3. Automate as much as possible -- building, testing, installing, 
packaging, releasing, etc..



David


p.s.  A digression -- while Bourne/ Bash shell have some very intriguing 
capabilities and both exist almost universally in FOSS realms, nothing 
has held my fascination since I discovered Perl.  Perl does #2 very 
nicely and includes tools and frameworks for #3.  (I use CVS for #1.)

Re: bash help please

[tomas]

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On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 10:41:27PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings; 
> 
> A bash script that has worked most of a decade now refuses.
> 
> For instance, assume that var InMail is = "gene", and can be echoed from 
> the command line using $InMail like this.
> gene@coyote:~$ echo $InMail
> gene
> But I'll be switched if I can get a result from a line of code resembling 
> this from the command line while attempting to troubleshoot a 110 line 
> bash script: which asks "if test [${InMail} = "gene"]
> then
>   -
>elif (another name)
>   yadda yadda
> 
> gene@coyote:~$ echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`

Most has been answered in this thread here and there, but I think some
things bear repeating:

test and []

  Basically, 'test' and '[' are the same -- well, more or less. There's
  even an executable /usr/bin/[ (no kidding) which in former times was
  just a hardlink to /usr/bin/test (I lost track of why it ain't these
  days). Those days test and/or [ are mostly shell builtins.
  
  So in
  
if test [ ... ] ; then
  
  either the test or the [] is redundant. Better spell as
  
if test ...
  
  or
  
if [ ... ]
  
  depending on your taste.

exit value vs stdout vs command line args

  echo just echoes its command line args. So

echo foo

  will output foo to stdout

echo $InMail

  will output 'gene", because the shell will get its first pass through
  the line, will replace $InMail with gene and echo will see 'gene' as
  its first command line arg and do its thing. In

echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`

  the shell again will have a first go. The `` will tell it to interpret
  the thing inside (i.e. test ...) and literally replace its *standard
  output* in place. Test doesn't output anything, thus the whole
  construct `...` gets replaced by nothing, echo sees an empty arg
  and outputs nothing (followed by a newline, which echo does by
  default).

  This is the empty line you are seeing.

  But, you will ask, where's the result of the test gone? Test is
  called for its *exit value*, a number (which by convention is
  0 when everything went OK and different from 0 for some error
  condition). You can use this exit value in the "if" construct
  (also in "while" and so on), and you can extract it from the
  special variabl $?. Also, you can use it in chained logical
  constructs as in "foo && bar || baz" (e.g.:

rm -f bumble || echo "can't remove this thing"

  would be a more concise way to spell

if ! rm -f bumble ; then echo "darn" ; fi

Happy hacking!

regards
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Re: bash help please

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 10 June 2016 01:34:14 David Wright wrote:

> On Fri 10 Jun 2016 at 01:04:40 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 09 June 2016 23:50:35 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Thu 09 Jun 2016 at 22:41:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > A bash script that has worked most of a decade now refuses.
> > > >
> > > > For instance, assume that var InMail is = "gene", and can be
> > > > echoed from the command line using $InMail like this.
> > > > gene@coyote:~$ echo $InMail
> > > > gene
> > > > But I'll be switched if I can get a result from a line of code
> > > > resembling this from the command line while attempting to
> > > > troubleshoot a 110 line bash script: which asks "if test
> > > > [${InMail} = "gene"]
> > > >   then
> > > > -
> > > >  elif (another name)
> > > > yadda yadda
> > > >
> > > > gene@coyote:~$ echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`
> > > >
> > > > All I get is the linefeed.  Obviously I'm losing it, so how do I
> > > > translate and get usefull output for troubleshooting?
> > >
> > > $ `[ ${InMail} = "gene" ]` ; echo $?
> > > 0
> > > $ `[ ${InMail} = "xgene" ]` ; echo $?
> > > 1
> > > $ `test ${InMail} = "gene"` ; echo $?
> > > 0
> > > $ `test ${InMail} = "xgene"` ; echo $?
> > > 1
> > > $
> > >
> > > elif needs [], not (), and it needs a then too.
> > >
> > > [ is a command like test, so it must be followed by a space
> > > before its argument.
> > >
> > > Often the easiest way of solving these is grep -A ... used with
> > > /etc/init.d/*
> >
> > This script is home brew, and has never had a starter in /etc/init.d
>
> Um, not my intention to make you try.
>
> Look, /etc/init.d/* is a collection of scripts that work.
> grep searches files for patterns.
> Put them together and you can bash away by example. Try
>
> $ grep -A 6 -B 6 elif /etc/init.d/* | less
>
> and you will get lots of examples of multiple tests involving strings
> (like yours), numbers, arithmetic xpressions etc. all syntactically
> correct. Copy what you need, either from there or the original file.
>
> Cheers,
> David.

Ah, I see.  Been guilty of that before, but my memory isn't what it was 
even 40 years ago, darn it.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: bash help please

[David Wright]

On Fri 10 Jun 2016 at 01:04:40 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 09 June 2016 23:50:35 David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 09 Jun 2016 at 22:41:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > A bash script that has worked most of a decade now refuses.
> > >
> > > For instance, assume that var InMail is = "gene", and can be echoed
> > > from the command line using $InMail like this.
> > > gene@coyote:~$ echo $InMail
> > > gene
> > > But I'll be switched if I can get a result from a line of code
> > > resembling this from the command line while attempting to
> > > troubleshoot a 110 line bash script: which asks "if test [${InMail}
> > > = "gene"]
> > > then
> > >   -
> > >elif (another name)
> > >   yadda yadda
> > >
> > > gene@coyote:~$ echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`
> > >
> > > All I get is the linefeed.  Obviously I'm losing it, so how do I
> > > translate and get usefull output for troubleshooting?
> >
> > $ `[ ${InMail} = "gene" ]` ; echo $?
> > 0
> > $ `[ ${InMail} = "xgene" ]` ; echo $?
> > 1
> > $ `test ${InMail} = "gene"` ; echo $?
> > 0
> > $ `test ${InMail} = "xgene"` ; echo $?
> > 1
> > $
> >
> > elif needs [], not (), and it needs a then too.
> >
> > [ is a command like test, so it must be followed by a space
> > before its argument.
> >
> > Often the easiest way of solving these is grep -A ... used with
> > /etc/init.d/*
> 
> This script is home brew, and has never had a starter in /etc/init.d

Um, not my intention to make you try.

Look, /etc/init.d/* is a collection of scripts that work.
grep searches files for patterns.
Put them together and you can bash away by example. Try

$ grep -A 6 -B 6 elif /etc/init.d/* | less

and you will get lots of examples of multiple tests involving strings
(like yours), numbers, arithmetic xpressions etc. all syntactically
correct. Copy what you need, either from there or the original file.

Cheers,
David.

Re: bash help please

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 10 June 2016 00:00:12 David Christensen wrote:

> On 06/09/2016 07:41 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > A bash script that has worked most of a decade now refuses.
> >
> > For instance, assume that var InMail is = "gene", and can be echoed
> > from the command line using $InMail like this.
> > gene@coyote:~$ echo $InMail
> > gene
> > But I'll be switched if I can get a result from a line of code
> > resembling this from the command line while attempting to
> > troubleshoot a 110 line bash script: which asks "if test [${InMail}
> > = "gene"]
> >   then
> > -
> >  elif (another name)
> > yadda yadda
> >
> > gene@coyote:~$ echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`
> >
> > All I get is the linefeed.  Obviously I'm losing it, so how do I
> > translate and get usefull output for troubleshooting?
>
> 'test' and '[ ... ]' are very similar.  I use the latter.  I
> definitely don't use both in one line.
>
>
> When comparing variables against string constants in '[ ... ]'
> expressions, I put quotes around the variables.
>
>
> Here's a short script that seems to work correctly:
>
>   2016-06-09 20:48:40 dpchrist@t7400 ~/sandbox/bash
>   $ cat gene-heskett.sh
>   #!/bin/bash
>   export InMail="gene"
>   echo "InMail=${InMail}"
>   if [ "${InMail}" = "gene" ]
>   then
>   echo "InMail is gene"
>   elif [ "$InMail" = "david" ]
>   then
>   echo "InMail is david"
>   else
>   echo "InMail unknown"
>   fi
>
>
> Here's a run:
>
>   2016-06-09 20:49:30 dpchrist@t7400 ~/sandbox/bash
>   $ ./gene-heskett.sh
>   InMail=gene
>   InMail is gene
>
>
> Here's a run with the '-x' option:
>
>   2016-06-09 20:56:19 dpchrist@t7400 ~/sandbox/bash
>   $ bash -x gene-heskett.sh
>   + export InMail=gene
>   + InMail=gene
>   + echo InMail=gene
>   InMail=gene
>   + '[' gene = gene ']'
>   + echo 'InMail is gene'
>   InMail is gene
>
>
> If that doesn't help, post a complete script that demonstrates the
> problem.
>
>
> David

I might just take you up on that when I am ready to add another layer of 
bulletproofing to it.  Its about 110 lines now.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: bash help please

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 09 June 2016 23:50:35 David Wright wrote:

> On Thu 09 Jun 2016 at 22:41:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > A bash script that has worked most of a decade now refuses.
> >
> > For instance, assume that var InMail is = "gene", and can be echoed
> > from the command line using $InMail like this.
> > gene@coyote:~$ echo $InMail
> > gene
> > But I'll be switched if I can get a result from a line of code
> > resembling this from the command line while attempting to
> > troubleshoot a 110 line bash script: which asks "if test [${InMail}
> > = "gene"]
> >   then
> > -
> >  elif (another name)
> > yadda yadda
> >
> > gene@coyote:~$ echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`
> >
> > All I get is the linefeed.  Obviously I'm losing it, so how do I
> > translate and get usefull output for troubleshooting?
>
> $ `[ ${InMail} = "gene" ]` ; echo $?
> 0
> $ `[ ${InMail} = "xgene" ]` ; echo $?
> 1
> $ `test ${InMail} = "gene"` ; echo $?
> 0
> $ `test ${InMail} = "xgene"` ; echo $?
> 1
> $
>
> elif needs [], not (), and it needs a then too.
>
> [ is a command like test, so it must be followed by a space
> before its argument.
>
> Often the easiest way of solving these is grep -A ... used with
> /etc/init.d/*

This script is home brew, and has never had a starter in /etc/init.d
Its normally something I start after the kmail gui is up and running.  
But restarting tdm-trinity apparently doesn't kill any background 
daemons which this normally runs as, and the excessive downtime of kmail 
let it stuff dcops buffer full, and then everything that needed dcop 
promptly fell over too, including cups.

The only recovery from that is a reboot which I did, but I screwed the 
pooch on this script before the reboot.  Big dummy at work of course.  
BTDT, 50 times or more over the last decade plus I've been doing this to 
offload the mail fetching from kmail as it locks up everything while its 
doing that, 5 minutes plus at a time back when  all this was done on 
dialup on a 2400 baud modem.  Thats possibly before some peoples time 
here on this list. :)

And I just amrecover'd a week old version that is working fairly well 
although its burning up the shell history file since I put a set -x in 
the top of it.  So I can at least go get some zz's.

> Cheers,
> David.

Thanks David, I'll hit on this again on another day.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: bash help please

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 09 June 2016 23:08:32 Lars Noodén wrote:

> On 06/10/2016 05:41 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > gene@coyote:~$ echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`
> >
> > All I get is the linefeed.  Obviously I'm losing it, so how do I
> > translate and get usefull output for troubleshooting?
>
> One option is to use 'set -x' there in the script.  It can go anywhere
> above your problem and will show each line as it is executed.  The
> contents of ${InMail} that are actually getting passed to test will be
> visible.
>
> Regards,
> Lars

I am about to call up a copy of amrecover, and restore that script to one 
that was working last week, I cannot get by the syntax errors between fi 
& done in a while loop with a bunch of if-then-elif-fi's in it.  Last 
weeks wasn't perfect, but it did work, and everytime I look something up 
in a man bash & try to fix it, its worse. 

The set -x helped, and maybe I can use that to see what the original is 
doing.

So for now, thanks all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: bash help please

[David Christensen]

On 06/09/2016 07:41 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

A bash script that has worked most of a decade now refuses.

For instance, assume that var InMail is = "gene", and can be echoed from
the command line using $InMail like this.
gene@coyote:~$ echo $InMail
gene
But I'll be switched if I can get a result from a line of code resembling
this from the command line while attempting to troubleshoot a 110 line
bash script: which asks "if test [${InMail} = "gene"]
  then
-
 elif (another name)
yadda yadda

gene@coyote:~$ echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`

All I get is the linefeed.  Obviously I'm losing it, so how do I
translate and get usefull output for troubleshooting?



'test' and '[ ... ]' are very similar.  I use the latter.  I definitely 
don't use both in one line.



When comparing variables against string constants in '[ ... ]' 
expressions, I put quotes around the variables.



Here's a short script that seems to work correctly:

2016-06-09 20:48:40 dpchrist@t7400 ~/sandbox/bash
$ cat gene-heskett.sh
#!/bin/bash
export InMail="gene"
echo "InMail=${InMail}"
if [ "${InMail}" = "gene" ]
then
echo "InMail is gene"
elif [ "$InMail" = "david" ]
then
echo "InMail is david"
else
echo "InMail unknown"
fi


Here's a run:

2016-06-09 20:49:30 dpchrist@t7400 ~/sandbox/bash
$ ./gene-heskett.sh
InMail=gene
InMail is gene


Here's a run with the '-x' option:

2016-06-09 20:56:19 dpchrist@t7400 ~/sandbox/bash
$ bash -x gene-heskett.sh
+ export InMail=gene
+ InMail=gene
+ echo InMail=gene
InMail=gene
+ '[' gene = gene ']'
+ echo 'InMail is gene'
InMail is gene


If that doesn't help, post a complete script that demonstrates the problem.


David

Re: bash help please

[David Wright]

On Thu 09 Jun 2016 at 22:41:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> A bash script that has worked most of a decade now refuses.
> 
> For instance, assume that var InMail is = "gene", and can be echoed from 
> the command line using $InMail like this.
> gene@coyote:~$ echo $InMail
> gene
> But I'll be switched if I can get a result from a line of code resembling 
> this from the command line while attempting to troubleshoot a 110 line 
> bash script: which asks "if test [${InMail} = "gene"]
> then
>   -
>elif (another name)
>   yadda yadda
> 
> gene@coyote:~$ echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`
> 
> All I get is the linefeed.  Obviously I'm losing it, so how do I 
> translate and get usefull output for troubleshooting?

$ `[ ${InMail} = "gene" ]` ; echo $?
0
$ `[ ${InMail} = "xgene" ]` ; echo $?
1
$ `test ${InMail} = "gene"` ; echo $?
0
$ `test ${InMail} = "xgene"` ; echo $?
1
$ 

elif needs [], not (), and it needs a then too.

[ is a command like test, so it must be followed by a space
before its argument.

Often the easiest way of solving these is grep -A ... used with
/etc/init.d/*

Cheers,
David.

Re: bash help please

[Lars Noodén]

On 06/10/2016 05:41 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> gene@coyote:~$ echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`
> 
> All I get is the linefeed.  Obviously I'm losing it, so how do I 
> translate and get usefull output for troubleshooting?

One option is to use 'set -x' there in the script.  It can go anywhere
above your problem and will show each line as it is executed.  The
contents of ${InMail} that are actually getting passed to test will be
visible.

Regards,
Lars

bash help please

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings; 

A bash script that has worked most of a decade now refuses.

For instance, assume that var InMail is = "gene", and can be echoed from 
the command line using $InMail like this.
gene@coyote:~$ echo $InMail
gene
But I'll be switched if I can get a result from a line of code resembling 
this from the command line while attempting to troubleshoot a 110 line 
bash script: which asks "if test [${InMail} = "gene"]
  then
-
 elif (another name)
yadda yadda

gene@coyote:~$ echo `test [${InMail} = "gene"]`

All I get is the linefeed.  Obviously I'm losing it, so how do I 
translate and get usefull output for troubleshooting?


Thanks bashers;

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

HDD repair help please

[Gábor Hársfalvi]

Hi,

How could I repair my HDD with disk manager or similar?

Because, it has got a lots of bad sector.

Before I could do that with fsck in recovery mode after umount /home. But
now it can't work - it says device in use.

Re: HDD repair help please

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Am Donnerstag, 26. September 2013, 18:08:54 schrieb Gábor Hársfalvi:
 Hi,
 
 How could I repair my HDD with disk manager or similar?
 
 Because, it has got a lots of bad sector.
 
 Before I could do that with fsck in recovery mode after umount /home. But
 now it can't work - it says device in use.

Hi!
Try to boot from a linux livesystem. Then you have access to a lot of rescue 
tools. Dependend of the filesystem you want to rescue, you might want to choose 
the best option.

My suggestion:

For FAT/NTFS try UBCD4WIN, maybe also Hirens Boot CD.

For those and EXT2/3/4 and other linux based filesystems, I suggest live 
systems like Trinity-Rescue-Kit, Rescatux or Rescue-is-Possible. Also GRML is 
very good.

These alll content much tools for rescueing systems.

You might also want to look at DEFT-7.2 (32-bit) or DEFT-8 (64-bit).

Good luck

Hans


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Re: HDD repair help please

[Antispammbox-debian]

Testdisk, or badblock without option -w that cancelled file!

Regards


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Re: HDD repair help please

[Stephen Powell]

On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:08:54 -0400 (EDT), Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 How could I repair my HDD with disk manager or similar?
 
 Because, it has got a lots of bad sector.
 
 Before I could do that with fsck in recovery mode after umount /home. But
 now it can't work - it says device in use.

fsck cannot repair a file system which is mounted read/write.  It can only
repair a file system which is not mounted or which is mounted read/only.

However, if the sectors are bad because the hard disk is going bad, fsck
cannot fix that.  You need to determine why the sectors went bad in the
first place.  If your hard disk is going bad, it's time to replace the
hard disk.

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Re: pkg-config not returning correct version number - help please

[Alberto Luaces]

Chris Fisichella writes:

 Hi,

 I did something to cause pkg-config to not return the correct version number. 
 I issue:

 $ pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'fontconfig = 2.10.91'
 Requested 'fontconfig = 2.10.91' but version of Fontconfig is 2.10.2

 This is after I (believe I) successfully installed from sources  
 fontconfig-2.10.91 .

 When I look in the directories where pkg-config is supposed to look, I find
 /usr/lib/pkgconfig$ cat fontconfig.pc
 prefix=/usr
 exec_prefix=${prefix}
 libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib
 includedir=${prefix}/include
 sysconfdir=/etc
 localstatedir=${prefix}/var
 PACKAGE=fontconfig
 confdir=${sysconfdir}/fonts
 cachedir=${localstatedir}/cache/${PACKAGE}

 Name: Fontconfig
 Description: Font configuration and customization library
 Version: 2.10.91
 Libs: -L${libdir} -lfontconfig
 Libs.private:  -lexpat -lfreetype  
 Cflags: -I${includedir}

 Version 2.10.2 is a tar ball I installed earlier. As it turns out, I need 
 2.10.91, so I installed that tar ball.

 If 2.10.91 is in this file, should pkg-config return that? Is there a way to 
 get pkg-config in-sync with what is in the /usr/lib/pkgconfig directory? I 
 tried rebooting, but that did not help.

Searches are done at execution time, there is nothing to be
synchronized.  You can track where pkg-config is looking for the .pc
files by executing

$ strace -e trace=open pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'fontconfig = 
2.10.91'

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Re: pkg-config not returning correct version number - help please

[Chris Fisichella]

Alberto Luaces alua...@udc.es:

 Chris Fisichella writes:

 Hi,

 I did something to cause pkg-config to not return the correct 
 version number. I issue:

 $ pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'fontconfig = 2.10.91'
 Requested 'fontconfig = 2.10.91' but version of Fontconfig is 2.10.2

 This is after I (believe I) successfully installed from sources  
 fontconfig-2.10.91 .

 When I look in the directories where pkg-config is supposed to look, I find
 /usr/lib/pkgconfig$ cat fontconfig.pc
 prefix=/usr
 exec_prefix=${prefix}
 libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib
 includedir=${prefix}/include
 sysconfdir=/etc
 localstatedir=${prefix}/var
 PACKAGE=fontconfig
 confdir=${sysconfdir}/fonts
 cachedir=${localstatedir}/cache/${PACKAGE}

 Name: Fontconfig
 Description: Font configuration and customization library
 Version: 2.10.91
 Libs: -L${libdir} -lfontconfig
 Libs.private:  -lexpat -lfreetype
 Cflags: -I${includedir}

 Version 2.10.2 is a tar ball I installed earlier. As it turns out, I 
 need 2.10.91, so I installed that tar ball.

 If 2.10.91 is in this file, should pkg-config return that? Is there 
 a way to get pkg-config in-sync with what is in the 
 /usr/lib/pkgconfig directory? I tried rebooting, but that did not 
 help.

 Searches are done at execution time, there is nothing to be
 synchronized.  You can track where pkg-config is looking for the .pc
 files by executing

 $ strace -e trace=open pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'fontconfig 
 = 2.10.91'

 --
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Totally cool solution, Alberto. Thanks very much!

pkg-config not returning correct version number - help please

[Chris Fisichella]

Hi,

I did something to cause pkg-config to not return the correct version number. I 
issue:

$ pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'fontconfig = 2.10.91'
Requested 'fontconfig = 2.10.91' but version of Fontconfig is 2.10.2

This is after I (believe I) successfully installed from sources  
fontconfig-2.10.91 .

When I look in the directories where pkg-config is supposed to look, I find
/usr/lib/pkgconfig$ cat fontconfig.pc
prefix=/usr
exec_prefix=${prefix}
libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib
includedir=${prefix}/include
sysconfdir=/etc
localstatedir=${prefix}/var
PACKAGE=fontconfig
confdir=${sysconfdir}/fonts
cachedir=${localstatedir}/cache/${PACKAGE}

Name: Fontconfig
Description: Font configuration and customization library
Version: 2.10.91
Libs: -L${libdir} -lfontconfig
Libs.private:  -lexpat -lfreetype   
Cflags: -I${includedir}

Version 2.10.2 is a tar ball I installed earlier. As it turns out, I need 
2.10.91, so I installed that tar ball.

If 2.10.91 is in this file, should pkg-config return that? Is there a way to 
get pkg-config in-sync with what is in the /usr/lib/pkgconfig directory? I 
tried rebooting, but that did not help.

Thanks,
Chris

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Helmut Wollmersdorfer]

Am 03.03.2013 um 22:20 schrieb Joe:


Network manager is not actually necessary to do anything, and until
recently it had a rather poor reputation, usually being known as  
Notwork

Manager. It's quite big and overbearing, and has many plug-ins, for
OpenVPN, wi-fi, 3G dongles and other things. It does seem to work  
these

days, or at least the Sid version does. I don't have it on my
workstation, which is a purely wired-Ethernet machine, but both my
laptop and netbook have it.


In my standard installation [1] of squeeze + Gnome WiFi and 3G works  
out of the box.


[1] Bootet netinstall from WinXP, DHCP over ethernet-cable. Booting  
from Win was convenient, because this netbook (Acer one) has no CD- 
drive, and I had no empty USB stick available.


Helmut Wollmersdorfer


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Darac Marjal]

On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 06:49:34PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 11:23:49PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  From the directory that the deb is in:
  dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
  
  If it complains that there are missing dependencies, curse, wish you had 
  used 
  aptitude, and install them. 
 
 Get the dependencies the same way you got
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb rinse and repeat
 
 Watch out for circular dependencies, for that you need
 
 dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb where package1 and package2 are the
 two packages involved. Adjust if necessary for more than two packages
 involved.

It's a lot easier to do this with apt-zip.



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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 10:17:11AM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 06:49:34PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 11:23:49PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
   From the directory that the deb is in:
   dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
   
   If it complains that there are missing dependencies, curse, wish you had 
   used 
   aptitude, and install them. 
  
  Get the dependencies the same way you got
  wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb rinse and repeat
  
  Watch out for circular dependencies, for that you need
  
  dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb where package1 and package2 are the
  two packages involved. Adjust if necessary for more than two packages
  involved.
 
 It's a lot easier to do this with apt-zip.

or apt-offline. But in this case, for the sake of half a dozen or so
packages it might be too much bother.

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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[lina]

I have not went through all the replies.

Regardless those questions, one basic question is that

What is your wireless card.

try $ lspci

If your laptop is not so new, basically it has very well support.
check the kernel support first. If none, then look for the further
solutions.


On Monday 04,March,2013 03:53 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:
 My objective:
 Install WiFi driver into Debian+LXDE so that I can connect to the Internet.
 
 My problem:
 All the help I can find covers installing packages over the Internet.
 But I can't install packages over the Internet because I can't reach the
 Internet until I've installed the driver (not part of Debian because
 it's non-free) and a Network Manager (apparently, not part of
 Debian+LXDE ...or at least I can't find it under System Tools ...I think
 that's what the menu item is named).
 
 Packages I have:
 aptitude_0.6.3-3.2+squeeze1_amd64.deb// Debian - Package Manager
 firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers
 synaptic_0.70~pre1+b1_amd64.deb  // Debian - Package Manager
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb// Debian (all but Gnome) -
 Network Manager
 wireless-tools_30~pre9-5_amd64.deb   // Debian - WiFi Tools
 
 Documentation I have:
 (copied off the Internet and saved where I can get to them when I'm in
 Debian+LXDE...)
 How to use a WiFi interface (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse)
 Intel PRO-Wireless 3945 and WiFi Link 4965 devices
 (http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy)
 WiFi Ad-hoc Network (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc)
 iwconfig (http://wiki.debian.org/iwconfig)
 iwconfig man page as a text file.
 
 BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in
 Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files. Nothing
 happened.
 
 I don't know what to do or what I'll need once I'm booted back into
 Debian+LXDE ...remember: I won't have Internet. Assuming that I'll need
 to know how to run a Package Manager, I've looked at the following
 (http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/index.en.html#contents):
 
 (Before listing the contents of the appropriate section of debian-faq
 below, I need to say that I really, really tried to read this stuff. My
 eyes glazed over. I looked for something like how to install a deb
 binary but couldn't find it. As I read the details of what I couldn't
 relate to and what I didn't understand and what I don't really care
 about - God created the Earth in 6 days so that we could argue over it
 forever after - I had my hands full simply trying to stay awake. Forgive
 me but I don't want to know the excruciating details of Linux and how it
 works. I'm not going to stand back after a year of study saying, My,
 that's wonderful!. I... don't... care. I'm here to use Linux, not to
 praise it. My objective is to copy stuff I *might* need for offline use.)
 
 7 Basics of the Debian package management system
 7.1 What is a Debian package?
 7.2 What is the format of a Debian binary package?
 7.3 Why are Debian package file names so long?
 7.4 What is a Debian control file?
 7.5 What is a Debian conffile?
 7.6 What is a Debian preinst, postinst, prerm, and postrm script?
 7.7 What is an Essential, Required, Important, Standard, Optional, or
 Extra package?
 7.8 What is a Virtual Package?
 7.9 What is meant by saying that a package Depends, Recommends,
 Suggests, Conflicts, Replaces, Breaks or Provides another package?
 7.10 What is meant by Pre-Depends?
 7.11 What is meant by unknown, install, remove, purge and hold in the
 package status?
 7.12 How do I put a package on hold?
 7.13 How do I install a source package?
 7.14 How do I build binary packages from a source package?
 7.15 How do I create Debian packages myself?
 8 The Debian package management tools
 8.1 What programs does Debian provide for managing its packages?
 8.1.1 dpkg
 8.1.2 APT
 8.1.3 aptitude
 8.1.4 synaptic
 8.1.5 tasksel
 8.1.6 Other package management tools
 8.2 Debian claims to be able to update a running program; how is this
 accomplished?
 8.3 How can I tell what packages are already installed on a Debian system?
 8.4 How to display the files of a package installed?
 8.5 How can I find out what package produced a particular file?
 8.6 Why doesn't get `foo-data' removed when I uninstall `foo'? How do I
 make sure old unused library-packages get purged?
 9 Keeping your Debian system up-to-date
 9.1 How can I keep my Debian system current?
 9.1.1 aptitude
 9.1.2 apt-get, dselect and apt-cdrom
 9.1.3 aptitude
 9.1.4 mirror
 9.1.5 dpkg-mountable
 9.2 Must I go into single user mode in order to upgrade a package?
 9.3 Do I have to keep all those .deb archive files on my disk?
 9.4 How can I keep a log of the packages I added to the system? I'd like
 to know when which package upgrades and removals have occured!
 9.5 Can I automatically update the system?
 9.6 I have several machines how can I download the updates only one time?
 
 You guys know the stuff above. I'd be willing to *try* to read it if you

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Roman V.Leon.]

On 04.03.2013 03:04, Mark Filipak wrote:

On 2013/3/3 4:34 PM, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
-big snip-

Why do you think you need a special driver?
Please type /sbin/ifconfig -a in your terminal to check whether you
have wlan0 device or not in the list.


mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
/sbin/ifconfig -a
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:8b:dc:30:fd
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:18

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB) TX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB)

pan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ba:3e:86:e1:5a:91
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Well, 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9 is indeed the WiFi's NIC. So why can't I get to
the Ethernet, and why does everything I see on the Internet (when I'm in
Windows of course) say that I must obtain an Intel 3945ABG driver
because it's non-free? ...Come to me and fall on thy knees, and I will
set thee free!




Hi again Mark,
I'm not sure why all the articles you've found require you a special 
driver(though it can be a serious reason for this). But i think that if 
you have wlan0 interface you do not need anything else on your system. 
There are a lot of software with GUI(NetworkManager, Wicd, ...)which 
could help you to manage your wifi interface, but I think you can read 
about it later when you find some time. To get internet working you can 
use wpa_supplicant tool, it is a CLI tool, but it is very easy. At first 
you should create a config-file with such content:

---
network={
ssid=home
scan_ssid=1
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=very secret passphrase
}
---
Rename this file as wpa_supplicant.conf. I think that content is more or 
less clear and you can adjust these parameters according your own needs. 
Then you can start your wi-fi card by command:


sudo /sbin/wpa_supplicant -cwpa_supplicant.conf -iwlan0

I think the command is also easy to understand. I hope that after these 
actions you'll get your wifi working till next reboot. Probably you will 
need to assign an IP-address manually to your NIC.


I'd recommend you to read the man pages:
1) man wpa_supplicant
2) man wpa_supplicant.conf
And download an excellent book which you'll find here:
http://debian-handbook.info/
You can read it from time to time when you are in a public transport and 
I think it will be a kind of an eye-opener for you.


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Joe]

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 21:14:32 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2013/3/3 8:16 PM, Mr G wrote:
 -snip-
  $ id
 -snip-
  $ sudo updatedb
 -snip-
  $ mlocate firmware-iwlwfi.deb
 -snip-
  $ pwd
 
 Look at the terminal session below
 
 =
 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su
 Password:
 
 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg
 -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb dpkg: error processing firmware-iwlwifi.deb
 (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
 Errors were encountered while processing:
   firmware-iwlwifi.deb
 
 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg
 -i firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb Selecting previously
 deselected package firmware-iwlwifi. (Reading database ... 68697
 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking
 firmware-iwlwifi (from firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb) ...
 Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.28+squeeze1) ... =
 
 I don't think it's necessary for me to 'mlocate' or 'pwd', do you?
 'firmware-iwlwifi.deb' is not right. It has to be
 'firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb'
 
 This is the first real progress I've made since the installation
 succeeded. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Now, regarding a network
 manager, the terminal session below is from about 2 hours ago. Can
 you help with it?
 
 =
 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg
 -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb Selecting previously deselected
 package wicd. (Reading database ... 68689 files and directories
 currently installed.) Unpacking wicd (from
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems
 prevent configuration of wicd: wicd depends on wicd-daemon (=
 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3); however: Package wicd-daemon is not installed.
   wicd depends on wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-curses (=
 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) |
 wicd-client; however: Package wicd-gtk is not installed. Package
 wicd-curses is not installed. Package wicd-cli is not installed.
Package wicd-client is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing wicd (--install):
   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Errors were encountered while processing:
   wicd
 =
 
 There are uninstalled dependencies:
 wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-curses (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-client
 
 When I do a google search for 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3 I find lots of
 stuff (too much stuff), including Python - gee, I've written Python
 server code - is that needed for this? Python aside, I don't know
 what to do next, so I'll wait for a push in a particular direction
 (and hope that it's not towards a cliff).
 

No, it means the 1.7 version of each package named. Dependencies are
usually of the form 'needs this or later version', so you don't know
for sure if you don't have those packages at all, or just that your
installed version is too old. Since wicd wasn't installed, the former
is more likely.

This is why we don't use dpkg unless we have to, and at the moment, you
have to. The apt tools all work on complete Debian repositories, and
mostly can work out and load all the dependencies of something you ask
for. dpkg can only install the file you give it, so it just tells you
when there are missing dependencies.

The Debian website can tell you full details of each package, and what
its dependencies are, but it's hard work doing it that way, one file
at a time. Do you still have the install medium, and can you access
that from the Debian system? If so, most of what you want will be on
there. 

The most important file in the apt system is /etc/apt/sources.list. It
should contain lines showing which repositories are in use, mostly in
pairs, beginning 'deb' and 'deb-src' for compiled and source code
packages. At the top of the list should be two commented lines that
refer to the installation medium, they get commented out when the
installation is complete, and working Internet repositories added. Try
uncommenting those two lines, plugging in the install medium and seeing
if the apt tools give you what you need. If it was a CD, there would be
no doubt, but the uncertainties of USB mounting and naming may still
give you a bit of trouble.

There was once just a Debian CD1, which contained nearly everything a
standard installation would need, but as software got bigger, and fewer
people wanted Gnome or KDE, the ISOs have changed in nature. So I'm not
certain that your installation medium does contain wicd and its
dependencies, but that is the way I would bet.

*  *  *

OK, I've looked, wicd-daemon (server) and wicd-gtk (the GUI client) are
on the CD image, and they are the only actual dependencies (wicd is
itself a virtual package, containing no code itself, and brings in the
daemon and one of the clients, -gtk in this case as -cli and -curses
aren't on the 

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[João Luis Meloni Assirati]

Em 04-03-2013 05:39, Roman V.Leon. escreveu:

On 04.03.2013 03:04, Mark Filipak wrote:

On 2013/3/3 4:34 PM, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
-big snip-

Why do you think you need a special driver?
Please type /sbin/ifconfig -a in your terminal to check whether you
have wlan0 device or not in the list.


mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
/sbin/ifconfig -a
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:8b:dc:30:fd
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:18

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB) TX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB)

pan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ba:3e:86:e1:5a:91
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Well, 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9 is indeed the WiFi's NIC. So why can't I get to
the Ethernet, and why does everything I see on the Internet (when I'm in
Windows of course) say that I must obtain an Intel 3945ABG driver
because it's non-free? ...Come to me and fall on thy knees, and I will
set thee free!




Hi again Mark,
I'm not sure why all the articles you've found require you a special 
driver(though it can be a serious reason for this). But i think that 
if you have wlan0 interface you do not need anything else on your 
system. There are a lot of software with GUI(NetworkManager, Wicd, 
...)which could help you to manage your wifi interface, but I think 
you can read about it later when you find some time. To get internet 
working you can use wpa_supplicant tool, it is a CLI tool, but it is 
very easy. At first you should create a config-file with such content:

---
network={
ssid=home
scan_ssid=1
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=very secret passphrase
}
---
Rename this file as wpa_supplicant.conf. I think that content is more 
or less clear and you can adjust these parameters according your own 
needs. Then you can start your wi-fi card by command:


sudo /sbin/wpa_supplicant -cwpa_supplicant.conf -iwlan0

I think the command is also easy to understand. I hope that after 
these actions you'll get your wifi working till next reboot. Probably 
you will need to assign an IP-address manually to your NIC.


I'd recommend you to read the man pages:
1) man wpa_supplicant
2) man wpa_supplicant.conf
And download an excellent book which you'll find here:
http://debian-handbook.info/
You can read it from time to time when you are in a public transport 
and I think it will be a kind of an eye-opener for you.




Just to be recorded on the list:

There is no evidence that wireless did not work out of the box. Probably 
the firmware package was not required. The network interface wlan0 was 
already present and only a GUI for the wireless connection was missing. 
The need to install a GUI for wireless network was probably due to the 
user option to a non-standard desktop (LXDE) instead of the better 
supported and more featureful Gnome and KDE. However, wireless 
configuration was possible out of the box with the standard text mode 
utility wpa_supplicant.



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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 11:23:49PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 From the directory that the deb is in:
 dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
 
 If it complains that there are missing dependencies, curse, wish you had used 
 aptitude, and install them. 

Get the dependencies the same way you got
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb rinse and repeat

Watch out for circular dependencies, for that you need

dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb where package1 and package2 are the
two packages involved. Adjust if necessary for more than two packages
involved.

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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 02:53:37PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote:
 My objective:
 Install WiFi driver into Debian+LXDE so that I can connect to the Internet.

To be more exact, the wifi driver is installed so the kernel can talk to
the wireless hardware. IOW, the procedure is the same whether you have
Gnome, XFCE, LXDE, KDE or even no X environment at all.


 My problem:
 All the help I can find covers installing packages over the Internet.

First step:
Determine the chipset of your wireless card, then you'll be able to
determine the driver necessary so the kernel can talk to that chipset.

There are various ways, but the usual way which I use is the lspci
command:

e.g. 
lspci -k

Please don't post the whole output, obviously information about your
graphics chipset, or your northbridge chipset, is not relevant to this
issue.

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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 07:06:13PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote:
 I tried to install  wicd.
[...] 
 I see that there are uninstalled dependencies:
 wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-curses (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
 wicd-client
 
 I don't know what to do, so I'll wait for some nice person to give me
 a push in a particular direction (and hope that it's not towards a
 cliff).

The best way, IMHO, is visit:
http://packages.debian.org/packagename

e.g. 
http://packages.debian.org/wicd-daemon

Just remember to choose/click the stable/squeeze choice(s)

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Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

My objective:
Install WiFi driver into Debian+LXDE so that I can connect to the Internet.

My problem:
All the help I can find covers installing packages over the Internet. But I 
can't install packages over the Internet because I can't reach the Internet 
until I've installed the driver (not part of Debian because it's non-free) and 
a Network Manager (apparently, not part of Debian+LXDE ...or at least I can't 
find it under System Tools ...I think that's what the menu item is named).

Packages I have:
aptitude_0.6.3-3.2+squeeze1_amd64.deb// Debian - Package Manager
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers
synaptic_0.70~pre1+b1_amd64.deb  // Debian - Package Manager
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb// Debian (all but Gnome) - Network 
Manager
wireless-tools_30~pre9-5_amd64.deb   // Debian - WiFi Tools

Documentation I have:
(copied off the Internet and saved where I can get to them when I'm in 
Debian+LXDE...)
How to use a WiFi interface (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse)
Intel PRO-Wireless 3945 and WiFi Link 4965 devices 
(http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy)
WiFi Ad-hoc Network (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc)
iwconfig (http://wiki.debian.org/iwconfig)
iwconfig man page as a text file.

BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in Debian+LXDE) 
and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files. Nothing happened.

I don't know what to do or what I'll need once I'm booted back into Debian+LXDE 
...remember: I won't have Internet. Assuming that I'll need to know how to run 
a Package Manager, I've looked at the following 
(http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/index.en.html#contents):

(Before listing the contents of the appropriate section of debian-faq below, I need to say that I 
really, really tried to read this stuff. My eyes glazed over. I looked for something like how 
to install a deb binary but couldn't find it. As I read the details of what I couldn't relate 
to and what I didn't understand and what I don't really care about - God created the Earth in 6 
days so that we could argue over it forever after - I had my hands full simply trying to stay 
awake. Forgive me but I don't want to know the excruciating details of Linux and how it works. I'm 
not going to stand back after a year of study saying, My, that's wonderful!. I... 
don't... care. I'm here to use Linux, not to praise it. My objective is to copy stuff I *might* 
need for offline use.)

7 Basics of the Debian package management system
7.1 What is a Debian package?
7.2 What is the format of a Debian binary package?
7.3 Why are Debian package file names so long?
7.4 What is a Debian control file?
7.5 What is a Debian conffile?
7.6 What is a Debian preinst, postinst, prerm, and postrm script?
7.7 What is an Essential, Required, Important, Standard, Optional, or Extra 
package?
7.8 What is a Virtual Package?
7.9 What is meant by saying that a package Depends, Recommends, Suggests, 
Conflicts, Replaces, Breaks or Provides another package?
7.10 What is meant by Pre-Depends?
7.11 What is meant by unknown, install, remove, purge and hold in the package 
status?
7.12 How do I put a package on hold?
7.13 How do I install a source package?
7.14 How do I build binary packages from a source package?
7.15 How do I create Debian packages myself?
8 The Debian package management tools
8.1 What programs does Debian provide for managing its packages?
8.1.1 dpkg
8.1.2 APT
8.1.3 aptitude
8.1.4 synaptic
8.1.5 tasksel
8.1.6 Other package management tools
8.2 Debian claims to be able to update a running program; how is this 
accomplished?
8.3 How can I tell what packages are already installed on a Debian system?
8.4 How to display the files of a package installed?
8.5 How can I find out what package produced a particular file?
8.6 Why doesn't get `foo-data' removed when I uninstall `foo'? How do I make 
sure old unused library-packages get purged?
9 Keeping your Debian system up-to-date
9.1 How can I keep my Debian system current?
9.1.1 aptitude
9.1.2 apt-get, dselect and apt-cdrom
9.1.3 aptitude
9.1.4 mirror
9.1.5 dpkg-mountable
9.2 Must I go into single user mode in order to upgrade a package?
9.3 Do I have to keep all those .deb archive files on my disk?
9.4 How can I keep a log of the packages I added to the system? I'd like to 
know when which package upgrades and removals have occured!
9.5 Can I automatically update the system?
9.6 I have several machines how can I download the updates only one time?

You guys know the stuff above. I'd be willing to *try* to read it if you think I'll need 
it, but please remember: all I want is to install the WiFi driver, 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb. Perhaps a year from now I'll step back and look 
at Linux and say, That's wonderful! but I doubt it. However, one thing's for 
certain: If I don't succeed with this, a year from now I will not be running Linux.

Any help gratefully appreciated!

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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Joe]

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:53:37 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 My objective:
 Install WiFi driver into Debian+LXDE so that I can connect to the
 Internet.
 
 My problem:
 All the help I can find covers installing packages over the Internet.
 But I can't install packages over the Internet because I can't reach
 the Internet until I've installed the driver (not part of Debian
 because it's non-free) and a Network Manager (apparently, not part of
 Debian+LXDE ...or at least I can't find it under System Tools ...I
 think that's what the menu item is named).
 
Network manager is not actually necessary to do anything, and until
recently it had a rather poor reputation, usually being known as Notwork
Manager. It's quite big and overbearing, and has many plug-ins, for
OpenVPN, wi-fi, 3G dongles and other things. It does seem to work these
days, or at least the Sid version does. I don't have it on my
workstation, which is a purely wired-Ethernet machine, but both my
laptop and netbook have it.

 Packages I have:
 aptitude_0.6.3-3.2+squeeze1_amd64.deb// Debian - Package Manager
 firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers
 synaptic_0.70~pre1+b1_amd64.deb  // Debian - Package Manager
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb// Debian (all but Gnome) -
 Network Manager wireless-tools_30~pre9-5_amd64.deb   // Debian -
 WiFi Tools
 
 Documentation I have:
 (copied off the Internet and saved where I can get to them when I'm
 in Debian+LXDE...) How to use a WiFi
 interface (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse) Intel PRO-Wireless
 3945 and WiFi Link 4965 devices (http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy)
 WiFi Ad-hoc Network (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc)
 iwconfig (http://wiki.debian.org/iwconfig) iwconfig man page as a
 text file.
 
 BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in
 Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files.
 Nothing happened.
 
There are packages which will install .deb files in this way, having
set up the right file association, but they are not installed by default
in LXDE. Anyway, the missing link here is that you use dpkg:

dpkg -i full-name-of-.deb-file

Assuming you have the right driver, you shouldn't have a problem. I've
never used wicd, but no doubt someone else will tell you if you need to
do anything with it. I'm not a big wireless fan. Network Manager Just
Works, or at least it does for me.

 I don't know what to do or what I'll need once I'm booted back into
 Debian+LXDE ...remember: I won't have Internet. Assuming that I'll
 need to know how to run a Package Manager, I've looked at the
 following
 (http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/index.en.html#contents):

When you have Net access, there's a vast number of apt-get and aptitude
tutorials, or Synaptic is fairly intuitive to use without much help.

 
 (Before listing the contents of the appropriate section of debian-faq
 below, I need to say that I really, really tried to read this stuff.
 My eyes glazed over.

You must know, from long experience, that theory is almost useless
until you've done a bit of practice, by rote if necessary.

 
 You guys know the stuff above. I'd be willing to *try* to read it if
 you think I'll need it, 

No. I don't know most of that and, with three somewhat different Sid
installations, I probably do more upgrades than most people. I look
things up as and when I need them. I can't say offhand how to export an
Exchange mailbox, either, but I know how to find out how to do it, and
I have done it a few times.

Aptitude and apt-get will be installed by default, they both drive dpkg
which is the low-level package manager and is part of the Debian core.
Synaptic is a GUI program and I use it when Sid has issues with
upgrades, as it does occasionally, I find it faster than aptitude in
identifying things that are currently uninstallable. Some people never
use it, and my server doesn't have a GUI, so I obviously don't use it
there. Debian Stable is much better-behaved than Sid.

All three apt tools will install everything in the repositories they are
configured for, you only need dpkg for .deb files obtained elsewhere. I
use it for that maybe twice a year. A lot of Linux software has a .deb
available even if Debian has not yet included it in a distribution.

dpkg does have many other uses, but not for the beginner. Among other
things, it will pretty much copy a Debian installation, complete with
all software installed from the repositories. You can migrate from 32
bit to 64 bit hardware that way. Let's see you do that with Windows.

There is also a GUI Update Manager, but either apt-get or aptitude will
do updates from the command line with minimal effort.

 However, one thing's for certain: If I
 don't succeed with this, a year from now I will not be running Linux.

You think we care? It will be your loss.

You do realise, yet again, you are in an unusual situation? I can't
remember ever being stuck with a single 

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Roman V.Leon.]

On 03.03.2013 23:53, Mark Filipak wrote:

My objective:
Install WiFi driver into Debian+LXDE so that I can connect to the Internet.

My problem:
All the help I can find covers installing packages over the Internet.
But I can't install packages over the Internet because I can't reach the
Internet until I've installed the driver (not part of Debian because
it's non-free) and a Network Manager (apparently, not part of
Debian+LXDE ...or at least I can't find it under System Tools ...I think
that's what the menu item is named).

Packages I have:
aptitude_0.6.3-3.2+squeeze1_amd64.deb // Debian - Package Manager
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb // Debian - WiFi Drivers
synaptic_0.70~pre1+b1_amd64.deb // Debian - Package Manager
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb // Debian (all but Gnome) - Network
Manager
wireless-tools_30~pre9-5_amd64.deb // Debian - WiFi Tools

Documentation I have:
(copied off the Internet and saved where I can get to them when I'm in
Debian+LXDE...)
How to use a WiFi interface (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse)
Intel PRO-Wireless 3945 and WiFi Link 4965 devices
(http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy)
WiFi Ad-hoc Network (http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc)
iwconfig (http://wiki.debian.org/iwconfig)
iwconfig man page as a text file.

BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in
Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files. Nothing
happened.

I don't know what to do or what I'll need once I'm booted back into
Debian+LXDE ...remember: I won't have Internet. Assuming that I'll need
to know how to run a Package Manager, I've looked at the following
(http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/index.en.html#contents):

(Before listing the contents of the appropriate section of debian-faq
below, I need to say that I really, really tried to read this stuff. My
eyes glazed over. I looked for something like how to install a deb
binary but couldn't find it. As I read the details of what I couldn't
relate to and what I didn't understand and what I don't really care
about - God created the Earth in 6 days so that we could argue over it
forever after - I had my hands full simply trying to stay awake. Forgive
me but I don't want to know the excruciating details of Linux and how it
works. I'm not going to stand back after a year of study saying, My,
that's wonderful!. I... don't... care. I'm here to use Linux, not to
praise it. My objective is to copy stuff I *might* need for offline use.)

7 Basics of the Debian package management system
7.1 What is a Debian package?
7.2 What is the format of a Debian binary package?
7.3 Why are Debian package file names so long?
7.4 What is a Debian control file?
7.5 What is a Debian conffile?
7.6 What is a Debian preinst, postinst, prerm, and postrm script?
7.7 What is an Essential, Required, Important, Standard, Optional, or
Extra package?
7.8 What is a Virtual Package?
7.9 What is meant by saying that a package Depends, Recommends,
Suggests, Conflicts, Replaces, Breaks or Provides another package?
7.10 What is meant by Pre-Depends?
7.11 What is meant by unknown, install, remove, purge and hold in the
package status?
7.12 How do I put a package on hold?
7.13 How do I install a source package?
7.14 How do I build binary packages from a source package?
7.15 How do I create Debian packages myself?
8 The Debian package management tools
8.1 What programs does Debian provide for managing its packages?
8.1.1 dpkg
8.1.2 APT
8.1.3 aptitude
8.1.4 synaptic
8.1.5 tasksel
8.1.6 Other package management tools
8.2 Debian claims to be able to update a running program; how is this
accomplished?
8.3 How can I tell what packages are already installed on a Debian system?
8.4 How to display the files of a package installed?
8.5 How can I find out what package produced a particular file?
8.6 Why doesn't get `foo-data' removed when I uninstall `foo'? How do I
make sure old unused library-packages get purged?
9 Keeping your Debian system up-to-date
9.1 How can I keep my Debian system current?
9.1.1 aptitude
9.1.2 apt-get, dselect and apt-cdrom
9.1.3 aptitude
9.1.4 mirror
9.1.5 dpkg-mountable
9.2 Must I go into single user mode in order to upgrade a package?
9.3 Do I have to keep all those .deb archive files on my disk?
9.4 How can I keep a log of the packages I added to the system? I'd like
to know when which package upgrades and removals have occured!
9.5 Can I automatically update the system?
9.6 I have several machines how can I download the updates only one time?

You guys know the stuff above. I'd be willing to *try* to read it if you
think I'll need it, but please remember: all I want is to install the
WiFi driver, firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb. Perhaps a year from
now I'll step back and look at Linux and say, That's wonderful! but I
doubt it. However, one thing's for certain: If I don't succeed with
this, a year from now I will not be running Linux.

Any help gratefully appreciated!

Thanks, and Ciao.



Hi Mark.
Why do you think you need 

Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 4:20 PM, Joe wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:53:37 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:

-snip-

BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in
Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files.
Nothing happened.


There are packages which will install .deb files in this way, having
set up the right file association, but they are not installed by default
in LXDE. Anyway, the missing link here is that you use dpkg:

dpkg -i full-name-of-.deb-file


May I make a few comments here?
First, Thanks Joe!
Second, I just returned from Debian-land. I discovered Aptitude *was* installed. The reason I 
didn't think it was installed was because it wasn't listed in LXDE's System Tools menu. 
But when I opened a terminal session and typed in aptitude, there it was.
Third, the rest of your very good information is getting snipped, but I promise 
that I will use it.

For now, I need help interpreting what I found in Debian-land.

=
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su
Password:
root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# aptitude update
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze Release.gpg
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56]/ squeeze/main Translation-en
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56]/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze Release
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# aptitude 
install wicd
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched wicd
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched wicd
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# aptitude 
install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched 
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched 
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
=

What I did:
The packages resided in a FAT-32 partition that I prepared in Windows.
I opened the FAT-32 (./media/usb8) in a file browser.
I browsed to the folder that contained the packages (./Setup/Debian 6.0.6 
64-bit/Packages).
From the file browser's menu, I opened a terminal window in the current folder.
My session dialog is above.
I copied the session dialog to a text file and saved it in the FAT-32 partition.
I booted Windows and copied the session dialog into this message.

Questions/comments (in no particular order):
Comment: I submitted 'aptitude update' because it was part of the example I 
followed.
Comment: I submitted 'aptitude install wicd' because it was part of the example 
I followed. Obviously, 'wicd' is not sufficient.
Question: Why didn't 'aptitude install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb' work?
Question (your response is optional): Why is there a redundant failure line for 
each failure?
Question (your response is optional): Why, following the redundant failure 
line, are 3 additional lines written? This is the sort of behavior that 
confuses people and makes them think that Linux is unfriendly.

Oh, one last thing: 'wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb' is correct and is in 
the correct folder. Why 'aptitude' couldn't find it is a mystery to me.

Thanks  Ciao - Mark.



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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 4:34 PM, Roman V.Leon. wrote:
-big snip-

Why do you think you need a special driver?
Please type /sbin/ifconfig -a in your terminal to check whether you have 
wlan0 device or not in the list.


mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ /sbin/ifconfig 
-a
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:8b:dc:30:fd
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
  Interrupt:18

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB)  TX bytes:1696 (1.6 KiB)

pan0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr ba:3e:86:e1:5a:91
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Well, 00:1b:77:80:2d:b9 is indeed the WiFi's NIC. So why can't I get to the Ethernet, and 
why does everything I see on the Internet (when I'm in Windows of course) say that I must 
obtain an Intel 3945ABG driver because it's non-free? ...Come to me and fall on thy 
knees, and I will set thee free!


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mr G]

You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

# dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

will tell you if the package is installed. It probably wont be on the
install disk as it is the nonfree repository. You may have to adjust
/etc/apt/sources.list depending on how you answered the questions when you
installed.

And lastly I apologize to everyone on the list on behalf of my phone. Now I
have gotten on the computer and find that google has changed their entire
interface for replies and am not sure how this is going to turn out either.


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 2013/3/3 4:20 PM, Joe wrote:

 On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:53:37 -0500
 Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 -snip-

 BTW, before I go on, I already tried opening a file manager (in
 Debian+LXDE) and simply double-clicking one of the .deb files.
 Nothing happened.

  There are packages which will install .deb files in this way, having
 set up the right file association, but they are not installed by default
 in LXDE. Anyway, the missing link here is that you use dpkg:

 dpkg -i full-name-of-.deb-file


 May I make a few comments here?
 First, Thanks Joe!
 Second, I just returned from Debian-land. I discovered Aptitude *was*
 installed. The reason I didn't think it was installed was because it wasn't
 listed in LXDE's System Tools menu. But when I opened a terminal session
 and typed in aptitude, there it was.
 Third, the rest of your very good information is getting snipped, but I
 promise that I will use it.

 For now, I need help interpreting what I found in Debian-land.

 =
 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su
 Password:
 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
 aptitude update
 Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64
 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze Release.gpg
 Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64
 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56]/ squeeze/main Translation-en
 Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64
 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56]/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US
 Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64
 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze Release
 Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64
 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20121214-16:56] squeeze/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex

 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
 aptitude install wicd
 Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched wicd
 Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched wicd
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
 aptitude install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.**deb
 Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_**all.deb
 Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched
 wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_**all.deb
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

 root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
 =

 What I did:
 The packages resided in a FAT-32 partition that I prepared in Windows.
 I opened the FAT-32 (./media/usb8) in a file browser.
 I browsed to the folder that contained the packages (./Setup/Debian 6.0.6
 64-bit/Packages).
 From the file browser's menu, I opened a terminal window in the current
 folder.
 My session dialog is above.
 I copied the session dialog to a text file and saved it in the FAT-32
 partition.
 I booted Windows and copied the session dialog into this message.

 Questions/comments (in no particular order):
 Comment: I submitted 'aptitude update' because it was part of the example
 I followed.
 Comment: I submitted 'aptitude install wicd' because it was part of the
 example I followed. Obviously, 'wicd' is not sufficient.
 Question: Why didn't 'aptitude install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.**deb'
 work?
 Question (your response is optional): Why is there a redundant failure
 line for each failure?
 Question (your response is optional): Why, following the redundant failure
 line, are 3 additional lines written? This is the sort of behavior that
 confuses people and makes them think that Linux is unfriendly.

 Oh, one last thing: 'wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_**all.deb' is correct and
 is in the correct folder. Why 'aptitude' couldn't find it is a mystery to
 me.

 Thanks  Ciao - Mark.




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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 03 March 2013 22:40:22 Mark Filipak wrote:
 Comment: I submitted 'aptitude install wicd' because it was part of the
 example I followed. Obviously, 'wicd' is not sufficient.

Why is it obviously not sufficient?  I would have said that it was.  But you 
would need the right repositories and a connection to the net. On my box:

root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# aptitude install wicd
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libnl1{a} libpcsclite1{a} python-glade2{a} python-iniparse{a} 
python-notify{a}
  python-wicd{a} wicd wicd-daemon{a} wicd-gtk{a} wpasupplicant{a}
0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,180 kB of archives. After unpacking 4,212 kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
Abort.
root@Tux-II:/home/lisi#

As you see, just wicd would be fine.  I aborted because I have no wireless 
on this box and so don't actually want it installed.

 Question: Why 
 didn't 'aptitude install wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb' work?

If you want to install a .deb in that way, you need to use dpkg, as mentioned 
by Joe:

From the directory that the deb is in:
dpkg -i wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb

If it complains that there are missing dependencies, curse, wish you had used 
aptitude, and install them.  Someone else will need to tell you how to manage 
that from a box without internet access.  I, when faced with this problem, 
always temporarily install an old network card so that I have got internet 
access to sort things out.

HTH
Lisi



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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote:

You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

# dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

will tell you if the package is installed. It probably wont be on the
install disk as it is the nonfree repository. You may have to adjust
/etc/apt/sources.list depending on how you answered the questions when you
installed.


Reminder: I don't have Internet in Debian+LXDE yet.
Comment: I have the iwlwifi package. It's 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb.
Remark: There were no questions when I installed (Thank doG!), so 
/etc/apt/sources.list may not need adjustment.
Question: What is /etc/apt/sources.list?

Ciao - Mark.



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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote:

You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

# dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi


You mean this one:
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers

It's on my list.

Do I really install it with this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

or this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all

or this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb

?

Oh, never mind. I'll try all 3.


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 6:48 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:

On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote:

You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

# dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi


You mean this one:
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers

It's on my list.

Do I really install it with this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

or this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all

or this:

dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb

?

Oh, never mind. I'll try all 3.


I don't quite know what to make of the results, but I did as you asked (I 
think).
=
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi
Package `firmware-iwlwifi' is not installed and no info is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all
Package `firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all' is not installed and no info is 
available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
Package `firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb' is not installed and no info 
is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
=

Can you suggest anything else?

Ciao - Mark (mystified).


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

I tried to install  wicd.

=
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -i 
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su
Password:
root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i 
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package wicd.
(Reading database ... 68689 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking wicd (from wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of wicd:
 wicd depends on wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3); however:
  Package wicd-daemon is not installed.
 wicd depends on wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-curses (= 
1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-client; 
however:
  Package wicd-gtk is not installed.
  Package wicd-curses is not installed.
  Package wicd-cli is not installed.
  Package wicd-client is not installed.
dpkg: error processing wicd (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 wicd
root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages#
=

I see that there are uninstalled dependencies:
wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-curses (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-client

When I do a google search for 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3 I find lots of stuff, 
including Python - gee, I've written Python server code - is that needed for this?

I don't know what to do, so I'll wait for some nice person to give me a push in 
a particular direction (and hope that it's not towards a cliff).

Ciao - Mark.


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mr G]

No, dpkg -s just simply tells you if it is installed.  If it's not then:

$ cd directory where firmware-iwlwifi.deb

is then:

$ sudo dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

or

# dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

There should have been one installed by default. If it is installed then
you can move onto the next step which would be configuring your network.
That works exactly the same as any other desktop. Find the icon and click
or right click and pick your network or adjust settings. I can't remember,
it's been several years since I used a network manager.

Also for future reference, you may want to install the gdebi package or
check your menu to see if it is installed. It will do the same thing as
dpkg -i except it is a graphical program like you are used to and you will
be able to install .deb packages from your file manager by clicking on them
like you are used to using. I find such things to just simply get in my way
but to each their own.


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote:

 You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

 # dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi


 You mean this one:

 firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers

 It's on my list.

 Do I really install it with this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

 or this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all

 or this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all.deb

 ?

 Oh, never mind. I'll try all 3.




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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mr G]

Good. You found the problem.

 Package `firmware-iwlwifi' is not installed and no info is available.

So now you need to get you and firmware-iwlwifi.deb in the same directory.
Really you don't -- but let's keep it simple ;)

If you don't know how do:

$ man cd

Once you and the package are together then do the

$ sudo dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

as a regular user or:

# dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

as root. Again I don't know how you answered the questions when you
installed. You can type

$ id

and it will tell you what groups you are in. To execute the command as
normal user using sudo
you will need to be in the group named sudo.



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Mr G persistence2succ...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, dpkg -s just simply tells you if it is installed.  If it's not then:

 $ cd directory where firmware-iwlwifi.deb

 is then:

 $ sudo dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

 or

 # dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

 There should have been one installed by default. If it is installed then
 you can move onto the next step which would be configuring your network.
 That works exactly the same as any other desktop. Find the icon and click
 or right click and pick your network or adjust settings. I can't remember,
 it's been several years since I used a network manager.

 Also for future reference, you may want to install the gdebi package or
 check your menu to see if it is installed. It will do the same thing as
 dpkg -i except it is a graphical program like you are used to and you will
 be able to install .deb packages from your file manager by clicking on them
 like you are used to using. I find such things to just simply get in my way
 but to each their own.


 On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Mark Filipak 
 markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 2013/3/3 6:10 PM, Mr G wrote:

 You need the firmware-iwlwifi package.

 # dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi


 You mean this one:

 firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all.deb   // Debian - WiFi Drivers

 It's on my list.

 Do I really install it with this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi

 or this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all

 or this:

 dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all.deb

 ?

 Oh, never mind. I'll try all 3.




 --
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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 7:22 PM, Mr G wrote:

Good. You found the problem.

 Package `firmware-iwlwifi' is not installed and no info is available.

So now you need to get you and firmware-iwlwifi.deb in the same directory.


=
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi
Package `firmware-iwlwifi' is not installed and no info is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all
Package `firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all' is not installed and no info is 
available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ dpkg -s 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
Package `firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb' is not installed and no info 
is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
=

Yes, as you can see from the terminal session above, the CWD is
   'mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages'.
I guess that's really
   '/home/mark/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages'
but I'm not really sure.

-snip-

$ sudo dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

as a regular user or:

# dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb

as root. Again I don't know how you answered the questions when you
installed.


Aside from my name, password, and time zone, the installer didn't ask any 
questions (Thank doG!).
In my previous encounters with Linux, the installer asked a million questions as though I 
knew what the stuff was and disk space was incredibly expensive. I just answered 'Yes' to 
everything, and then I wound up with a non-working system. That's why I wrote I've 
never successfully installed Linux last week. That brought the wrath of the 
Linux-stuffedshirtkingdom down on me and I had to run for the hills.

As you can see from the terminal session above, I was not alerted to run as 
root. When I tried 'Aptitude' a hour or so ago, I was alerted to run as root, 
but this time, no.

I'll go back and try running 'dpkg' as root, but you said that 'dpkg' is not an 
installer, so I'm confused regarding why I'm doing it. I'll be back in a few 
minutes.

Ciao - Mark.


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mark Filipak]

On 2013/3/3 8:16 PM, Mr G wrote:
-snip-

$ id

-snip-

$ sudo updatedb

-snip-

$ mlocate firmware-iwlwfi.deb

-snip-

$ pwd


Look at the terminal session below

=
mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ su
Password:

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i 
firmware-iwlwifi.deb
dpkg: error processing firmware-iwlwifi.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 firmware-iwlwifi.deb

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i 
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package firmware-iwlwifi.
(Reading database ... 68697 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking firmware-iwlwifi (from firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb) ...
Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.28+squeeze1) ...
=

I don't think it's necessary for me to 'mlocate' or 'pwd', do you?
'firmware-iwlwifi.deb' is not right. It has to be 
'firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb'

This is the first real progress I've made since the installation succeeded. 
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Now, regarding a network manager, the terminal session below is from about 2 
hours ago. Can you help with it?

=
root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i 
wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package wicd.
(Reading database ... 68689 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking wicd (from wicd_1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3_all.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of wicd:
 wicd depends on wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3); however:
  Package wicd-daemon is not installed.
 wicd depends on wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-curses (= 
1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3) | wicd-client; 
however:
  Package wicd-gtk is not installed.
  Package wicd-curses is not installed.
  Package wicd-cli is not installed.
  Package wicd-client is not installed.
dpkg: error processing wicd (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 wicd
=

There are uninstalled dependencies:
wicd-daemon (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-gtk (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-curses (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-cli (= 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3)
wicd-client

When I do a google search for 1.7.0+ds1-5+squeeze3 I find lots of stuff (too 
much stuff), including Python - gee, I've written Python server code - is that needed for 
this? Python aside, I don't know what to do next, so I'll wait for a push in a particular 
direction (and hope that it's not towards a cliff).

Ciao - Mark (who's going to go out and catch some food for a little while).


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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver

[Mr G]

root@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/S
etup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages# dpkg -i
firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package firmware-iwlwifi.
(Reading database ... 68697 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking firmware-iwlwifi (from firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb) ...
Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.28+squeeze1) ...
=


That means it is installed and this thread is solved. You should now be
able to use the network software that can with the install. If you other
problems, start a new thread. That way other users with your problem will
be able to search the archives.


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 2013/3/3 9:21 PM, Mr G wrote:

 If I didn't think it was necessary I wouldn't have asked you to run the
 commands.


 Quite right. My error. For convenience, I've added blank lines between
 commands and I added one command.

 =
 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ id
 uid=1000(mark) gid=1000(mark) groups=1000(mark),24(cdrom),**
 25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),**44(video),46(plugdev),108(**
 netdev),115(powerdev),116(**scanner),119(bluetooth)

 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ sudo
 updatedb
 [sudo] password for mark:
 mark is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.

 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
 mlocate firmware-iwlwifi.deb

 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$
 mlocate firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+**squeeze1_all.deb

 mark@MarkFilipak:/media/usb8/**Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages$ pwd
 /media/usb8/Setup/Debian 6.0.6 64-bit/Packages
 =

 Is this what you expected?

 Ciao - Mark.




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Re: Help please - install the WiFi driver [SOLVED]

[Mark Filipak]

Get the WiFi driver.
- Go to http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi and look for a link related to your WiFi 
device.
  My WiFi device is an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 and the link is labeled 
'ipw3945'.
  Yours will probably be different.
- Taking the device-related link takes you to the Debian Wiki page for your 
desired
  driver. For the ipw3945 that page is http://wiki.debian.org/ipw3945.
  On that page is a notice: Non-free firmware is required, which can be 
provided
   by the link package.
- If you encounter such a notice, take link to get to a search results page
  (identifiable by the phrase Exact hits) and select yet one more link for the
  codename of your Debian (in my case, this codename is Squeeze).
- The final page contains the download link for the driver. Save the driver to a
  folder where it will be available while running Debian. In my case, the 
driver is
  named firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb.

Install the WiFi driver.
- In the target Debian system, browse to the folder where you saved the driver.
- Open a terminal window and enter this command:
 su
  Note: you will be prompted for the root user's password - the installer needs 
to
  run with root privilege and this is how to elevate your privilege to root 
level.
- Then enter this command:
 dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
  Note: replace firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb with the actual name of
  your driver. If the system responds with something like this:
 Selecting previously deselected package firmware-iwlwifi.
 (Reading database ... 68697 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking firmware-iwlwifi (from firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb) 
...
 Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.28+squeeze1) ...
  your driver is installed.


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Re: on the way of encrypting a system, need some help please

[Bob Proulx]

J. B wrote:
 I have bought a new HDD. Created 2 partitions.
 An un-encrypted 1 GB /boot as a separate partition on the Disk.

One gig for /boot?  I know you are probably planning on using it for a
dropbox but that still seems excessive to me.  If I wanted a dropbox I
would use an additional different filesystem.

 And on the rest (2nd partition) an encrypted LVM with root and home
 as two logical volume on it.

Hmm...  Okay.

 Now I like to migrate my running system, the running / to the root
 of logical volume, but /boot ( which is actually a folder in my
 running system) should go to the unencrypted /boot of the new disk.
 and the running /home to the home of logical volume. So that I can
 get my running system on the new encrypted disk and can boot from
 there. Obviously I need to modify /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.cfg
 on the logical volume. How can I proceed ? Any suggestion will be
 life savior.

This is definitely possible.  But it may be one of those questions
that is typical of if you have to ask then... you shouldn't do it.
There are a few dozen critical details that need to be correct.  There
are a dozen pitfalls to trap the unwary.  In order to learn how to do
this you would need to learn how to do many things.  And you need to
know how to do all of them all at once before you are able to succeed
at this task.  If you make a mistake anywhere along the way then you
the task fails.  It is very tedious for helpers on mailing lists to
help you through it.  There are so many details.

I suggest instead that you install a fresh system using the
debian-installer upon the new disk drive and use it to guide you
through setting up disk encryption.  There are many documentation
guides to help you through that process .  Then upon the new system
copy the data from your previous system.  That would lead you through
to your goal with the best likelihood of success.

Having said all of that I will also say that you should never let
someone like me talk you out of doing what you want.  If you are
careful you won't hurt anything.  You will learn a lot in the
process.  Go for it!

  The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
  persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore, all
  progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

Bob


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on the way of encrypting a system, need some help please

[J. B]

Dear list,

I have bought a new HDD. Created 2 partitions.
An un-encrypted 1 GB /boot as a separate partition on the Disk.
And on the rest (2nd partition) an encrypted LVM with root and home as two 
logical volume on it.

Now I like to migrate my running system, the running / to the root of logical 
volume, but /boot
( which is actually a folder in my running system) should go to the  
unencrypted /boot of the new disk.
and the running /home to the home of logical volume. So that I can get my 
running system on the new encrypted
disk and can boot from there. Obviously I need to modify /etc/fstab and 
/boot/grub/grub.cfg on the
logical volume. How can I proceed ? Any suggestion will be life savior.

TIA.


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Issues with fresh debian wheezy with libvirt/kvm :- help please

[Bhasker C V]

Hi all

 I did a fresh installation of debian wheezy
 After installing, I have installed virt-manager which as a part of
dependency installed libvirt, virt-viewer and kvm and all necessary stuff

 I am able to boot from cdrom giving the virtual machine a SCSI disk to
install. The installation goes fine but after the installation, the
machine does not boot from SCSI disk.

The install command was:

virt-install  --name BHASKER_debian --ram 1024 --cdrom
/tmp/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso --disk
path=/VIRT/disks/DEBIAN,bus=scsi --network bridge=virt,model=e1000 --cpu
core2duo --vcpus 2 --cpuset=1,2 --graphics vnc

Running the qemu command seperately like this

kvm -drive file=/VIRT/disks/DEBIAN,if=scsi,boot=on works perfectly well
but under libvirt the machine goes to network boot and then fails booting.


Is someone facing this issue or is it just me ? Am I doing anything
wrong here ? Can someone help me here please ?


I have tried to capture as much information with this mail but in case I
miss anything can you please get back to me.



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root@virt:~# virsh version
Compiled against library: libvir 0.9.9
Using library: libvir 0.9.9
Using API: QEMU 0.9.9
Running hypervisor: QEMU 1.0.0

root@virt:~# kvm --version
QEMU emulator version 1.0 (Debian qemu-kvm 1.0+dfsg-9), Copyright (c)
2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard
root@virt:~# virsh --version
0.9.9
root@virt:~# which kvm
/usr/bin/kvm
root@virt:~# virsh capabilities
capabilities

  host
uuid34373030-3635-435a-4a32-313230485156/uuid
cpu
  archx86_64/arch
  modelWestmere/model
  vendorIntel/vendor
  topology sockets='1' cores='4' threads='2'/
  feature name='rdtscp'/
  feature name='pdpe1gb'/
  feature name='dca'/
  feature name='pdcm'/
  feature name='xtpr'/
  feature name='tm2'/
  feature name='est'/
  feature name='smx'/
  feature name='vmx'/
  feature name='ds_cpl'/
  feature name='monitor'/
  feature name='dtes64'/
  feature name='pclmuldq'/
  feature name='pbe'/
  feature name='tm'/
  feature name='ht'/
  feature name='ss'/
  feature name='acpi'/
  feature name='ds'/
  feature name='vme'/
/cpu
power_management/
migration_features
  live/
  uri_transports
uri_transporttcp/uri_transport
  /uri_transports
/migration_features
topology
  cells num='2'
cell id='0'
  cpus num='8'
cpu id='0'/
cpu id='2'/
cpu id='4'/
cpu id='6'/
cpu id='8'/
cpu id='10'/
cpu id='12'/
cpu id='14'/
  /cpus
/cell
cell id='1'
  cpus num='8'
cpu id='1'/
cpu id='3'/
cpu id='5'/
cpu id='7'/
cpu id='9'/
cpu id='11'/
cpu id='13'/
cpu id='15'/
  /cpus
/cell
  /cells
/topology
  /host

  guest
os_typehvm/os_type
arch name='i686'
  wordsize32/wordsize
  emulator/usr/bin/qemu/emulator
  machinepc-0.15/machine
  machinepc-1.0/machine
  machine canonical='pc-1.0'pc/machine
  machinepc-0.14/machine
  machinepc-0.13/machine
  machinepc-0.12/machine
  machinepc-0.11/machine
  machinepc-0.10/machine
  machineisapc/machine
  machinexenfv/machine
  machinexenpv/machine
  domain type='qemu'
  /domain
  domain type='kvm'
emulator/usr/bin/kvm/emulator
machinepc-0.15/machine
machinepc-1.0/machine
machine canonical='pc-1.0'pc/machine
machinepc-0.14/machine
machinepc-0.13/machine
machinepc-0.12/machine
machinepc-0.11/machine
machinepc-0.10/machine
machineisapc/machine
  /domain
/arch
features
  cpuselection/
  deviceboot/
  pae/
  nonpae/
  acpi default='on' toggle='yes'/
  apic default='on' toggle='no'/
/features
  /guest

  guest
os_typehvm/os_type
arch name='x86_64'
  wordsize64/wordsize
  emulator/usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64/emulator
  machinepc-0.15/machine
  machinepc-1.0/machine
  machine canonical='pc-1.0'pc/machine
  machinepc-0.14/machine
  machinepc-0.13/machine
  machinepc-0.12/machine
  machinepc-0.11/machine
  machinepc-0.10/machine
  machineisapc/machine
  machinexenfv/machine
  machinexenpv/machine
  domain type='qemu'
  /domain
  domain type='kvm'
emulator/usr/bin/kvm/emulator
machinepc-0.15/machine
machinepc-1.0/machine
machine canonical='pc-1.0'pc/machine
machinepc-0.14/machine
machinepc-0.13/machine
machinepc-0.12/machine
machinepc-0.11/machine
machinepc-0.10/machine
machineisapc/machine
  /domain
/arch
features
  cpuselection/
  deviceboot/

aptitude streaming loads of errors, help please

[dave selby]

I seem to have a problem, noticed that aptitude flashed up an error
after adding a package, so dropped to aptitude and got a ton of error
messages every time I try to add / demove any package

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Reading extended state information...
Initializing package states...
Reading task descriptions...
The following partially installed packages will be configured:
  pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-x11
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
Writing extended state information...
Setting up pulseaudio (0.9.21-3+squeeze1) ...
insserv: warning: script 'K07smfpd' missing LSB tags and overrides
insserv: warning: script 'smfpd' missing LSB tags and overrides
insserv: There is a loop between service rc.local and mountnfs if started
insserv:  loop involving service mountnfs at depth 8
insserv:  loop involving service nfs-common at depth 7
insserv: There is a loop between service rc.local and checkroot if started
insserv:  loop involving service checkroot at depth 5
insserv:  loop involving service hostname at depth 4
insserv:  loop involving service alsa-utils at depth 12
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
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Re: aptitude streaming loads of errors, help please

[Erwan David]

On 21/08/11 10:50, dave selby wrote:
 I seem to have a problem, noticed that aptitude flashed up an error
 after adding a package, so dropped to aptitude and got a ton of error
 messages every time I try to add / demove any package
 
 Reading package lists...
 Building dependency tree...
 Reading state information...
 Reading extended state information...
 Initializing package states...
 Reading task descriptions...
 The following partially installed packages will be configured:
   pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-x11
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
 Writing extended state information...
 Setting up pulseaudio (0.9.21-3+squeeze1) ...
 insserv: warning: script 'K07smfpd' missing LSB tags and overrides
 insserv: warning: script 'smfpd' missing LSB tags and overrides
 insserv: There is a loop between service rc.local and mountnfs if started
 insserv:  loop involving service mountnfs at depth 8
 insserv:  loop involving service nfs-common at depth 7
 insserv: There is a loop between service rc.local and checkroot if started
 insserv:  loop involving service checkroot at depth 5
 insserv:  loop involving service hostname at depth 4
 insserv:  loop involving service alsa-utils at depth 12
 insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
 facility `$all' which can not be true!
 insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
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 insserv: Starting 

Basic(?) network help, please...

[Mark Neidorff]

Since I don't do this often, what may be very easy is confusing me.

I have switched from DSL (static IP) to cable internet (5 static IPs).  I have 
a sort of network diagram (in a format that I hope can be easily 
viewed) available at neidorff.com . Below the line there is a link that says 
Network Diagram.   Some things are not quite right.

Under the DSL setup (old) the router provided me with a translated set of 
addresses, so that I could use the 192.168.2.* range to connections to the 
router.
With cable, I have 5 static IPs, but the cable modem only provides ports for 
the static IPs.  I changed the configuration of the NIC that connects from 
the server to the cable modem to match a static IP.

I can't get PCs on the local LAN (192.168.1.x) to connect to the net using the 
cable provider's nameservers.  If I use the nameservers of my old provider 
(which are still active for me, for now) they can connect to the net.  Why is 
this?  How do I correct it?
Here is the routing table
$route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
108.58.151.192  0.0.0.0         255.255.255.248 U     0      0        0 eth0
192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth1
0.0.0.0         108.58.151.193  0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0

Thanks for any help,
Mark


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Re: Basic(?) network help, please...

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:54:50 -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote:

(...)

 I can't get PCs on the local LAN (192.168.1.x) to connect to the net
 using the cable provider's nameservers. If I use the nameservers of my
 old provider (which are still active for me, for now) they can connect
 to the net.  Why is this?  How do I correct it?

There are some things in the air that may require further investigation.

First, as per your description (five static IP), I guess you have been 
given a very nice cable modem gateway device but most surely it is 
somehow limited/restricted/customized by your provider, so you should 
contact them and ask for a basic configuration setup start-up guide. I 
say this because some providers give their users a login username/
password and let them to manage their devices from their internal 
subnetwork.

Second, you should ask yourself about the network setup do you have in 
mind... that is, cable modems (unless otherwise specified) are just 
gateways with no routing capabilities and act in the same way like the 
old dial-up serial modems: they connect your machine (the one to which is 
attached) directly to the web (which is good if you have a web server 
behind the cable modem that you want to be reachable from outside) but 
maybe you don't want all your machines are also acting in that way, like 
public servers.

So, dependending on what you have in mind, you may also need to have a 
router with nat capabilities that:

1/ Hide your internal network machines (so you can use 192.168.0.x 
addresses) and keep them out of the Internet.

2/ Provide addictional DHCP/DNS functionalities, in the event the cable-
modem do not.

And last, you can use whatever DNS servers you prefer (like the ones from 
OpenDNS or Google's) but usually the ones that your isp provides are 
better (lower latency and fast response).

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Re: Basic(?) network help, please...

[Mark Neidorff]

Thanks.  You have clarified exactly what I need to know.

Mark

On Saturday 29 January 2011 04:19 pm, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:54:50 -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote:

 (...)

  I can't get PCs on the local LAN (192.168.1.x) to connect to the net
  using the cable provider's nameservers. If I use the nameservers of my
  old provider (which are still active for me, for now) they can connect
  to the net.  Why is this?  How do I correct it?

 There are some things in the air that may require further investigation.

 First, as per your description (five static IP), I guess you have been
 given a very nice cable modem gateway device but most surely it is
 somehow limited/restricted/customized by your provider, so you should
 contact them and ask for a basic configuration setup start-up guide. I
 say this because some providers give their users a login username/
 password and let them to manage their devices from their internal
 subnetwork.

 Second, you should ask yourself about the network setup do you have in
 mind... that is, cable modems (unless otherwise specified) are just
 gateways with no routing capabilities and act in the same way like the
 old dial-up serial modems: they connect your machine (the one to which is
 attached) directly to the web (which is good if you have a web server
 behind the cable modem that you want to be reachable from outside) but
 maybe you don't want all your machines are also acting in that way, like
 public servers.

 So, dependending on what you have in mind, you may also need to have a
 router with nat capabilities that:

 1/ Hide your internal network machines (so you can use 192.168.0.x
 addresses) and keep them out of the Internet.

 2/ Provide addictional DHCP/DNS functionalities, in the event the cable-
 modem do not.

 And last, you can use whatever DNS servers you prefer (like the ones from
 OpenDNS or Google's) but usually the ones that your isp provides are
 better (lower latency and fast response).

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Re: Postfix SASL SMTP AUTH help, please. [re-post from comp.mail.misc]

[s. keeling]

s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com:
  [I asked this in cmm, but see no help there yet.  I'm trying to get this:
 
 
 http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailservers.html
 
  working on Debian Lenny.]

Camaleon, Darac, Osamu, Bob, thanks.  All good suggestions, lots of
reading to do.  Gimme a minute; will report back.  I appreciate your
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Re: Postfix SASL SMTP AUTH help, please. [re-post from comp.mail.misc]

[Camaleón]

On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:39:23 -0700, s. keeling wrote:

(...)

 Background:
 
 I run fetchmail in a script wrapper called by my user crontab. Changing
 the interval at which the cronjob runs to 10 min. instead of every five
 minutes broke the implied POP before SMTP authorization. Apparently,
 my ISP's SMTP times out PbS authorization fairly quickly.

 I'd prefer to have SASL SMTP AUTH working instead of relying on PbS.

(...)

So basically you want to setup Postfix to use SMTP AUTH (as client) for 
sending e-mails through Postfix and then Postfix delivers the e-mail to 
your e-mail server provider, right?

First, check that remote e-mail server supports SMTP AUTH functionality 
(you can test this by setting up an account in any e-mail client and send 
a message from there, just ensure to put your login credentials when 
configuring the remote smtp server).

If that works, then review your Postfix logs. If the e-mail cannot be 
sent for whatever reason, you should have more information about the 
failure under /var/log/mail* files.

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Re: Postfix SASL SMTP AUTH help, please. [re-post from comp.mail.misc]

[Darac Marjal]

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 06:39:23PM -0700, s. keeling wrote:
[cut]

The official documentation for how to do this would appear to be at
http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl_enable

 
 I'd prefer to have SASL SMTP AUTH working instead of relying on PbS.
 Essentially, this means placing my ISP username and password in
 /etc/posfix/sasl_passwd:
  ^typo?
 
[smtp.nucleus.com]:366 keeling:XXX

Did you run postmap /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd after editing this file?

 
 then adding:
 
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_sasl_security_options =

According to the above URL, you also need relayhost =
[smtp.nucleus.com]:366. That is, exactly the same as the first field in
your file above.

 
 to /etc/postfix/main.cf, followed by:
 
postmap hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
postfix reload
 
 and (for the heck of it):
 
/etc/init.d/postfix restart
 
 It had no effect.  Changing the crontab fetchmail wrapper interval
 back to 5 min. lets it work, but I'd rather smtpd not be dependent on
 how often a user cronjob runs.  What am I missing, or how do I get
 SASL SMTP AUTH working?  BTW, I'm trying to get this question to
 postfix-users, but that's been somewhat difficult with a broken mail
 system (though I am now gaining on it).

What does postfix log to /var/log/mail.log? Any errors?



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Re: Postfix SASL SMTP AUTH help, please. [re-post from comp.mail.misc]

[Osamu Aoki]

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 06:39:23PM -0700, s. keeling wrote:
 Background:
 
 I run fetchmail in a script wrapper called by my user crontab.
 Changing the interval at which the cronjob runs to 10 min. instead of
 every five minutes broke the implied POP before SMTP authorization.
 Apparently, my ISP's SMTP times out PbS authorization fairly quickly.
 
 I'd prefer to have SASL SMTP AUTH working instead of relying on PbS.

Do you have sasl2-bin package installed?

 Essentially, this means placing my ISP username and password in
 /etc/posfix/sasl_passwd:
 
[smtp.nucleus.com]:366 keeling:XXX
 
 then adding:
 
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_sasl_security_options =
 
 to /etc/postfix/main.cf, followed by:
 
postmap hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
postfix reload
 
 and (for the heck of it):
 
/etc/init.d/postfix restart
 
 It had no effect.  Changing the crontab fetchmail wrapper interval
 back to 5 min. lets it work, but I'd rather smtpd not be dependent on
 how often a user cronjob runs.  What am I missing, or how do I get
 SASL SMTP AUTH working?  BTW, I'm trying to get this question to
 postfix-users, but that's been somewhat difficult with a broken mail
 system (though I am now gaining on it).

I use exim recently but when I use postfix, Iwrote following howto for
this topic:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch06.en.html#_the_configuration_of_postfix_with_sasl

Osamu


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Re: Postfix SASL SMTP AUTH help, please.

[Bob Proulx]

s. keeling wrote:
 and (for the heck of it):
/etc/init.d/postfix restart
 What am I missing, or how do I get SASL SMTP AUTH working?

In Debian postfix is run chroot'd in /var/spool/postfix.  Therefore
all of those files you are changing in /etc need to be replicated into
the chroot.  This is already done in /etc/init.d/postfix for several
other files.  You need to add the sasldb2 file to that list.

Add etc/sasldb2 to FILES in /etc/init.d/postfix:
  -FILES=etc/localtime etc/services etc/resolv.conf etc/hosts \
  +FILES=etc/sasldb2 etc/localtime etc/services 
etc/resolv.conf etc/hosts \

Then when you restart postfix those files will make it into the chroot
and you should be good to go.  On a quick look that was the only thing
I thought was missing.

Some time ago I wrote this up on how to get SASL working in Debian.
It currently has hostnames customized to help a friend out with a
specific environment.  I need to update it again.  I haven't tried it
on Squeeze and probably need to update it for that reason too.  So
expect it to be less than perfect.  But just the same I think it might
be general purpose enough to help you out and if nothing else will
give you an alternate view of things.

  http://www.proulx.com/~bob/doc/HOWTO-Postfix-SASL.html

Bob


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Postfix SASL SMTP AUTH help, please. [re-post from comp.mail.misc]

[s. keeling]

[I asked this in cmm, but see no help there yet.  I'm trying to get this:

   
http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailservers.html

working on Debian Lenny.]

  

Background:

I run fetchmail in a script wrapper called by my user crontab.
Changing the interval at which the cronjob runs to 10 min. instead of
every five minutes broke the implied POP before SMTP authorization.
Apparently, my ISP's SMTP times out PbS authorization fairly quickly.

I'd prefer to have SASL SMTP AUTH working instead of relying on PbS.
Essentially, this means placing my ISP username and password in
/etc/posfix/sasl_passwd:

   [smtp.nucleus.com]:366 keeling:XXX

then adding:

   smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
   smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
   smtp_sasl_security_options =

to /etc/postfix/main.cf, followed by:

   postmap hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
   postfix reload

and (for the heck of it):

   /etc/init.d/postfix restart

It had no effect.  Changing the crontab fetchmail wrapper interval
back to 5 min. lets it work, but I'd rather smtpd not be dependent on
how often a user cronjob runs.  What am I missing, or how do I get
SASL SMTP AUTH working?  BTW, I'm trying to get this question to
postfix-users, but that's been somewhat difficult with a broken mail
system (though I am now gaining on it).

Thanks.


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firmware-realtek help please

[jidanni]

Can somebody please help me with 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579694#67


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Re: reportbug doubt, help PLEASE

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:59:32 +0100, Daniele Nuzzo wrote:

 I noticed that the Debian amd64 lenny /5.0.3/5.0.4 can not find any
 cd-rom drive after the initial bootstrap, I would file a bug as it seems
 did not I do not know what to use because reportbug is installed on the
 system but they my problem is installing the system (on IBM x3250 m3) I
 hope I can help fill this request for bugs thanks

You can report it via e-mail:

http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.en.html

Although I have a working system, I always write the reports via e-mail. 
I suposse is a bit more time-demanding (it needs special formatting) but 
after writing the first, the rest are done very quickly :-)

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Re: reportbug doubt, help PLEASE

[Tony Nelson]

On 10-02-17 03:04:37, Camaleón wrote:

 You can report it via e-mail:
 
 http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.en.html
 
 Although I have a working system, I always write the reports via
 e-mail.  I suposse is a bit more time-demanding (it needs special 
 formatting) but after writing the first, the rest are done very 
 quickly :-)

Use reportbug.  It will help you file good bug reports.  It sends them 
by email.  It also has Integration with mutt and mh/nmh mail readers.

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Re: reportbug doubt, help PLEASE

[Tixy]

On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 10:58 -0500, Tony Nelson wrote:
 Use reportbug.  It will help you file good bug reports.  It sends them 
 by email.  It also has Integration with mutt and mh/nmh mail readers.

When I tried to use the Squeeze version of reportbug last week, it
crashed - loosing the details I had typed in. (No, I didn;t report the
reportbug bug ;-). Perhaps it didn't like the fact that I don't run an
MTA.

Using a plain email to report a bug seems safer to me, or at least write
a description in a file first, then cut'n'paste it into reportbug so if
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reportbug doubt, help PLEASE

[Daniele Nuzzo]

hi,
I noticed that the Debian amd64 lenny /5.0.3/5.0.4 can not find any 
cd-rom drive after the initial bootstrap, I would file a bug as it seems 
did not I do not know what to use because reportbug is installed on the 
system but they my problem is installing the system (on IBM x3250 m3)

I hope I can help fill this request for bugs
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Re: Help Please !

[Zhang Weiwu]

Kwaku Obeng 写道:
  I therefore wish to make an appeal to any of you who can send me a
 copy of the Debian 5.0 DVD Pack.
I can imagine somewhere went wrong during the burning process. However
instead of fighting the burning problem it may be easier to skip the
problem by just starting with a well-made CD. So I took it as a
reasonable request.

However Africa is too far away from me. Do you know if you have a Linux
user group locally? Just try google Linux user group together with the
name of the city you live in. They might have plenty Debian CD in stock.
Here in Beijing Linux user group distribute a lot of CDs to other people
if you just ask them. They don't have it in stock, they just burn it on
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Re: Help Please !

[evenso]

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 08:22:12PM +, Kwaku Obeng wrote:
Hi folks,
 
My name is Kwaku Obeng and a Ghanaian by birth. I read about Debian a few
months ago on website and I have been trying to download the DVD packs so
I can practice the tutorials on the site but always end up with a corrupt
copy which I am unable to boot from. I therefore wish to make an appeal to
any of you who can send me a copy of the Debian 5.0 DVD Pack.
Thank you.
 
My postal address is:

An ISO file is an archive. You can't just transfer the archive to a CD. Use
a CD burner with an option to a create disk from an ISO image.  If you are
doing this with Windows, CDburnerXP will work, it is easy and free,
http://cdburnerxp.se/ .

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Kind Regards,
Freeman


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Re: Help Please !

[Lisi]

On Saturday 26 December 2009 08:04:47 Zhang Weiwu wrote:
 However Africa is too far away from me. Do you know if you have a Linux
 user group locally?

http://linuxaccra.com/

Lisi


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