Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

zoopee...@mail2tor.com wrote:

> The bubble has splashed and a mirror is born : a mirror lies like our
> eyes do, the light removes all the dark point and replaces a shadow by a
> pastel color.

again, this is the wrong list.

we discuss here debian user related issues.

regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[zoopeen33]

Spreading the world by running fake news can be done everywhere : media
force.

Female, military, french 'opinions_experiences' are short, empty, and work
like a bubble launched between 2 legs for hypnotizing the two others
forgotten between the ears.
 why all these outsiders, well respected, well payed, well satisfied, rich
& happy without any hurt in their whole life suddenly become outlaws ?
 because the bubble had a bug and shown them their real identity : ugly,
wrongly formed.

 The bubble has splashed and a mirror is born : a mirror lies like our
eyes do, the light removes all the dark point and replaces a shadow by a
pastel color.

The world is like that and the responsibility involve (> 50 %) the female
nature.


Subject: Re: need help on cracking wireless password
From: deloptes <delop...@gmail.com>
Michelle Konzack wrote:


>
> Do you think the USA are better?
>

No I don't think it is better

> There are currently several 100 prisoners wihout trial in internation
> camps, Jornalists are disappearing, several enqueters are kiulled in
> different occasions... 911? Sadam and WMD? All are liar!
>
> And what is this current extra terrest shit?  USA, Russia, China?
> I am ex french military and menaced by the french government to shutup!
> I know a little bit more then you can imagine and what happen to me
> between 1983 and 2007 is definitively beyoud your mind!
>
> 1000s of files classified! (only in France)
>
> What about China, USA, Russia?
>
> They are planing to enslave the WHOLE planet!

Who are they? And by the way I think this is the wrong place to comment.

you can share experience and thoughts on my mail directly. I would love to
know more.

I can share what I have experienced between 87 and 2017. It might be not so
mindblowing as your experience, but I do not have any illusions regarding
the situation in which mankind is ATM.

regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

zoopee...@mail2tor.com wrote:

> and i, i thing that is the right place _ it is not a french
> place/mailing-list _ and sending mail to a gmail adress is not recommended
> - use pgp please for private & confidential correspondence.
> Remember : Michelle Konzack is on a high threat mode and she felt in
> danger and i trust her.

no it is not the right place here as it has nothing to do with debian and
with user issues.
Why would be mail2tor.com different than gmail?
if you contact me on the email, you may get another email, where you can
encrypt your message.

regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[zoopeen33]

> Michelle Konzack wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Do you think the USA are better?
>>
>
> No I don't think it is better
>
>> There are currently several 100 prisoners wihout trial in internation
>> camps, Jornalists are disappearing, several enqueters are kiulled in
>> different occasions... 911? Sadam and WMD? All are liar!
>>
>> And what is this current extra terrest shit?  USA, Russia, China?
>> I am ex french military and menaced by the french government to shutup!
>> I know a little bit more then you can imagine and what happen to me
>> between 1983 and 2007 is definitively beyoud your mind!
>>
>> 1000s of files classified! (only in France)
>>
>> What about China, USA, Russia?
>>
>> They are planing to enslave the WHOLE planet!
>
> Who are they? And by the way I think this is the wrong place to comment.
>
> you can share experience and thoughts on my mail directly. I would love to
> know more.
>
> I can share what I have experienced between 87 and 2017. It might be not
> so
> mindblowing as your experience, but I do not have any illusions regarding
> the situation in which mankind is ATM.
>
> regards
>
>
>
and i, i thing that is the right place _ it is not a french
place/mailing-list _ and sending mail to a gmail adress is not recommended
- use pgp please for private & confidential correspondence.
Remember : Michelle Konzack is on a high threat mode and she felt in
danger and i trust her.

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

Michelle Konzack wrote:


> 
> Do you think the USA are better?
> 

No I don't think it is better

> There are currently several 100 prisoners wihout trial in internation
> camps, Jornalists are disappearing, several enqueters are kiulled in
> different occasions... 911? Sadam and WMD? All are liar!
> 
> And what is this current extra terrest shit?  USA, Russia, China?
> I am ex french military and menaced by the french government to shutup!
> I know a little bit more then you can imagine and what happen to me
> between 1983 and 2007 is definitively beyoud your mind!
> 
> 1000s of files classified! (only in France)
> 
> What about China, USA, Russia?
> 
> They are planing to enslave the WHOLE planet!

Who are they? And by the way I think this is the wrong place to comment.

you can share experience and thoughts on my mail directly. I would love to
know more.

I can share what I have experienced between 87 and 2017. It might be not so
mindblowing as your experience, but I do not have any illusions regarding
the situation in which mankind is ATM.

regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Michelle Konzack]

Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: deloptes
> I think you also qualify for the psychiatrist.
>
> Why would you compare Russia/Stalin with Nazi/Hitler. You are a sick man.
>
> This is the type of propaganda I have been listening for about 25y
> already.
> I do not buy it anyway. In fact the so called free western world,
> especially the EU looks much like the USSR.
> You are naive. I wish both of you luck and enlightment.

Do you think the USA are better?

There are currently several 100 prisoners wihout trial in internation
camps, Jornalists are disappearing, several enqueters are kiulled in
different occasions... 911? Sadam and WMD? All are liar!

And what is this current extra terrest shit?  USA, Russia, China?
I am ex french military and menaced by the french government to shutup!
I know a little bit more then you can imagine and what happen to me
between 1983 and 2007 is definitively beyoud your mind!

1000s of files classified! (only in France)

What about China, USA, Russia?

They are planing to enslave the WHOLE planet!

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

Wilko Fokken wrote:

> You should rethink the Baltic social situation:
> If it hadn't been Stalin, who filled up the Baltic countries with his
> Russian invaders in order to keep control over these countries, but if it
> had been Hitler, who (after his victory) had occupied England and filled
> her up with his Nazi-invaders by about 50 percent in order to prevent the
> British from any further uprising – how should those leftovers of Hitler
> be dealt with today?

I think you also qualify for the psychiatrist.

Why would you compare Russia/Stalin with Nazi/Hitler. You are a sick man. 

This is the type of propaganda I have been listening for about 25y already.
I do not buy it anyway. In fact the so called free western world,
especially the EU looks much like the USSR.
You are naive. I wish both of you luck and enlightment.

regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 04:21:53PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> > Am 2018-02-24 hackte deloptes in die Tasten:
> >> But hey, with so many Russians in Estonia, you may be sure that at least
> >> Russia will not nuke you, so be positive about what you have ;-) (irony
> >> off). There are always two sides, you know.
> > 
> > They could try the same as they have done it with Crimea...
> > 
> > There is a group of russians in Estonia which try to do this,
> > but they will get the worst nightmare on the neck...
> > 
> > However, it will take at least two years to get the WHOLE rest
> > of my german and french enterprises to Estonia...  ;-)
> > 
> > Then I am more or less 90% operational.
> > 
> > Maybe I will restart TDAerospace and TDTechnology ;-)
> > 
> > Two enterprises where frenchies have tried to steal my inventions!
> 

>  one is for sure, you need a good psychiatrist and lawyer 


deloptes,

I view your last line a blunder; instead of dealing with Michelle's
arguments, you tell him that he is just a mental case for you.

(As 90 percent of the people regard 90 percent of their fellow humans as
"compleat idiots", you are not alone.)

But don't overlook that this kind of disputing indicates a totalitarian
attitude, culminating in totalitarian countries like the Soviet Union,
where dissidents were easily brought under psychiatrical treatment.

You should rethink the Baltic social situation:
If it hadn't been Stalin, who filled up the Baltic countries with his Russian
invaders in order to keep control over these countries, but if it had been
Hitler, who (after his victory) had occupied England and filled her up with
his Nazi-invaders by about 50 percent in order to prevent the British from
any further uprising – how should those leftovers of Hitler be dealt with
today?

Regards Wilko

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[tomas]

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 12:43:23PM -0600, DebianNewbie wrote:
> Back to the actual question:
> 
> It seems to me the best way to crack a password is to just ask for it.  No
> trickery, no criminal activity, no ethical dilemma; just plain old
> neighborly interchange.  Perhaps you could even offer to pay a percentage of
> the ISP bill or perform a favor in exchange for the password.  
> 
> I know, it's a novel idea, but maybe it's worth a try...

Not that novel: that's what my neighbors actually do.
100% success rate ;-D

Cheers
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Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2018-02-26 hackte DebianNewbie in die Tasten:
> Back to the actual question:
>
> It seems to me the best way to crack a password is to just ask for it.  No
> trickery, no criminal activity, no ethical dilemma; just plain old
> neighborly interchange.  Perhaps you could even offer to pay a percentage
> of
> the ISP bill or perform a favor in exchange for the password.
>
> I know, it's a novel idea, but maybe it's worth a try...

1+

> Good luck,
> Debian Newbie

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[DebianNewbie]

Back to the actual question:

It seems to me the best way to crack a password is to just ask for it.  No
trickery, no criminal activity, no ethical dilemma; just plain old
neighborly interchange.  Perhaps you could even offer to pay a percentage of
the ISP bill or perform a favor in exchange for the password.  

I know, it's a novel idea, but maybe it's worth a try...


Good luck,
Debian Newbie   

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Dan Ritter]

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:57:03AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Long Wind wrote:
> 
> > but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email
> > shows that you are from USA) the big ? in China is freedomgoogle,
> > facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by governmentif we demand justice,
> > these should receive more priority than stealing (sharing) bandwidth
> 
> Sometimes I think it might be worth blocking google or the stupid social
> media platforms. Google as search engine is the only thing I use, but I can
> imagine there would be other ways to find information if google was banned.
> 
> So do not think that we all here on the other side like google or facebook.
> 

Duck Duck Go is a search engine with a privacy commitment.

https://duckduckgo.com

-dsr-

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Luis Speciale]

Le 26/02/2018 à 17:54, Charlie Gibbs a écrit :

On 25/02/18 01:57 AM, deloptes wrote:


Long Wind wrote:


but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email
shows that you are from USA) the big ? in China is freedomgoogle,
facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by governmentif we demand justice,
these should receive more priority than stealing (sharing) bandwidth


Sometimes I think it might be worth blocking google or the stupid social
media platforms. Google as search engine is the only thing I use, but 
I can
imagine there would be other ways to find information if google was 
banned.


Certainly there is.  Try DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com), MapQuest
(https://www.mapquest.com), etc.



And Qwant too

https://www.qwant.com

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Charlie Gibbs]

On 25/02/18 01:57 AM, deloptes wrote:


Long Wind wrote:


but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email
shows that you are from USA) the big ? in China is freedomgoogle,
facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by governmentif we demand justice,
these should receive more priority than stealing (sharing) bandwidth


Sometimes I think it might be worth blocking google or the stupid social
media platforms. Google as search engine is the only thing I use, but I can
imagine there would be other ways to find information if google was banned.


Certainly there is.  Try DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com), MapQuest
(https://www.mapquest.com), etc.


So do not think that we all here on the other side like google or facebook.


My machine is now a Google-free zone (and Facebook-free, etc.).

--
cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Charlie Gibbs]

On 24/02/18 08:44 PM, John Hasler wrote:


Jason writes:

>

Maybe the 'golden rule' could apply here: "Do to others as you wish
them to do to you." Simple and universal.


"Do unto others as they would wish you to do onto them."  Not everyone
shares your values.


Q: What's the difference between a sadist and a masochist?
A: A masochist says, "Beat me."  A sadist says, "No."

--
cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[tomas]

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:31:39AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> tomas writes:
> > There sure are other options. At first you've to get used to it,
> > because part of Google's better hit rate stems from the fact that they
> > know you (which, while from a purely technical POV is a Good Thing,
> > from a societal POV is a disaster, IMHO).
> 
> I use Google Search a lot, but they don't "know" me: no cookies and no
> scripts.  I've tried allowing their scripts and cookies and find that I
> prefer their search engine vanilla.

That's good :-)

Still they *can* know more than you care about: IP address tracking plus
browser fingerprinting (plus the fact that they have their bugs in most
of the web pages out there) go a long way.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not talking paranoia here. Paranoia is unhealthy,
and once you realize you're losing sleep over it, you should just stop
caring. But I don't want to make their job (which is sticking their nose
in my private affairs) all too easy. And a diversity of approaches is,
I think, key.

> I do miss the ability to create complex search expressions as was
> possible with AltaVista, though.

Yes. Especially this "documents similar to these", which allowed to
refine a search was gold.

Cheers
- -- t
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Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[John Hasler]

tomas writes:
> There sure are other options. At first you've to get used to it,
> because part of Google's better hit rate stems from the fact that they
> know you (which, while from a purely technical POV is a Good Thing,
> from a societal POV is a disaster, IMHO).

I use Google Search a lot, but they don't "know" me: no cookies and no
scripts.  I've tried allowing their scripts and cookies and find that I
prefer their search engine vanilla.

I do miss the ability to create complex search expressions as was
possible with AltaVista, though.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

Long Wind wrote:

> China is a different world than the free worldmore than 200 years after
> 
> Declaration of the Rights of Man
> in 1789, we still don't have freedom of expressionbanning
> google/facebook/twitter are just some evidence i offer freedom of
> expression is sacredwithout it you lose many many rights
> 
> i repeat jungle law holds true in Chinaon top of food chain is communist
> leadershipgovernment ask people to obey law,but government doesn't obey
> law, it's corrupted since government isn't ashamed of banning web siteswhy
> should i be ashamed of stealing(sharing) bandwidth? if i can talk with
> neighbors, topics like how tovisit banned web sites are more important and
> interestingthan bandwidth stealing prevention

Just do not have the illusion we on the other side live in free world with
freedom of speech and so on.
IMO it is even worse, because you think you have those basic human rights,
but in fact at the end you don't - well to some extent you have them, but
look at Assange or Snowden - if you pose danger to the people in power or
the system - you get shut down very quickly.

Why do you think here that governments obey law? Take as example Obama and
Merkel - both are 100% criminals.

To me the main difference are the people - there are definitely more
enlightened people here than in China. What China needs is more
enlightment.

regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[tomas]

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 02:28:45PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> > http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
> 
> That's cool ... and should be a warning. Much worse things could happen.

Yes, I enjoyed that too :-)

Remember that, with some ISPs, this is included in the price...

Cheers
- -- tomás
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Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html

That's cool ... and should be a warning. Much worse things could happen.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

This discussion is not complete without mention of the 
Upside-Down-Ternet, an oldie but a goodie, on how to have fun with 
iptables and squid when your neighbours are stealing your wireless 
internet access:

http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html

Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[tomas]

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:57:03AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Long Wind wrote:
> 
> > but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email
> > shows that you are from USA) the big ? in China is freedomgoogle,
> > facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by governmentif we demand justice,
> > these should receive more priority than stealing (sharing) bandwidth
> 
> Sometimes I think it might be worth blocking google or the stupid social
> media platforms. Google as search engine is the only thing I use,

Detox:

  https://duckduckgo.com/
  https://searx.laquadrature.net/
  https://www.ixquick.com/

There sure are other options. At first you've to get used to it,
because part of Google's better hit rate stems from the fact that
they know you (which, while from a purely technical POV is a Good
Thing, from a societal POV is a disaster, IMHO).

I'm not a purist, mind you, and fall back to Google whenever the
alternatives seem to "fail": that's about once every two months
at the moment (at the beginning of the Google Detox it was more
like once a week).

>but I can
> imagine there would be other ways to find information if google was banned.
> 
> So do not think that we all here on the other side like google or facebook.

Personally I try to keep as much distance between myself
and Google (or facebook or all those (anti-)social networks,
undermined by the likes of deloptes who, using gmail somehow
feed the beast with her/his correspondent's mails (yeah,
that's me)

A bit tongue-in-cheek, a bit serious...

Cheers
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Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

Long Wind wrote:

> but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email
> shows that you are from USA) the big ? in China is freedomgoogle,
> facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by governmentif we demand justice,
> these should receive more priority than stealing (sharing) bandwidth

Sometimes I think it might be worth blocking google or the stupid social
media platforms. Google as search engine is the only thing I use, but I can
imagine there would be other ways to find information if google was banned.

So do not think that we all here on the other side like google or facebook.

regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[John Hasler]

Jason writes:
> Maybe the 'golden rule' could apply here: "Do to others as you wish
> them to do to you." Simple and universal.

"Do unto others as they would wish you to do onto them."  Not everyone
shares your values.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Jason]

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 09:49:49PM +, Long Wind wrote:
> but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email shows 
> that you are from USA)

We all live on the same Little Blue Ball.

> the big ? in China is freedomgoogle, facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by 
> governmentif we demand justice, these should receive more priority than 
> stealing (sharing) bandwidth 
> 
>
Maybe the 'golden rule' could apply here: "Do to others as you wish
them to do to you." Simple and universal.

> 
> On Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:36 PM, Joe Pfeiffer 
>  wrote:
>  
> 
>  Really?  They're paying for it and you want to use it for free?  This
> strikes you as neighborly behavior?
> 
> 
>

Best regards,

-- 
Jason

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Long Wind]

but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email shows 
that you are from USA)
the big ? in China is freedomgoogle, facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by 
governmentif we demand justice, these should receive more priority than 
stealing (sharing) bandwidth 




 

On Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:36 PM, Joe Pfeiffer  
wrote:
 

 Really?  They're paying for it and you want to use it for free?  This
strikes you as neighborly behavior?


   

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2018-02-24 hackte John Hasler in die Tasten:
> Michelle Konzack writes:
>> I was attacked by honny pots of the NSA!
>
> I wrote:
>> How can you be attacked by a honey pot?
>
>> The start a DOS or a hack attemped
>
> Not a honeypot.

Oh yes, it is...

They attack and wait if there is a reaction and then they come back
to you and then you have to explain to the local authorities,
why you have hacked back the attacking IP...

In the past I had several issues with North American authorities.
Several times I endet up at the firewall of some NATO installations in
Europe!  --  Not funny at all, because if i fought back and the justice
made a request, -- oh wonder, any charges against me and my enterprises
where droped!

I seems, they try to make some "uncomfortable" busy to bound there
resources, which not only happen to me...  In my opinion, the USA
targeting european PMCs because we mostly do not want to play the bad
american game.

And do not tell me, this three letter ORGs what only to test the
security of my mail-, dns- and cloud-servers!  All 17 servers of my
network are under permanent attack which produce a traffic of more
then 50 TByte per month... official I have only 1 TByte/Server and this
attacks become costly because I have to pay extra for the traffic!!!

Oh, my standard traffic is only 0,5-2 TByte per month.

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

> Really?  They're paying for it and you want to use it for free?  This
> strikes you as neighborly behavior?

It's china man, there are 1+ billion neighbors - if few of them are upset,
the rest won't care (irony off)

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Joe Pfeiffer]

Really?  They're paying for it and you want to use it for free?  This
strikes you as neighborly behavior?

Long Wind  writes:

> Thank Reco and deloptes! 
> what i suspect turn out to be true: for ethical reason users here refuse to 
> help
>
> if reaver is used mainly by bad guy, why debian include it in stable?
>
> i'm in CHina, a land not ruled by law
> jungle law still holds, we chinese can't worry too much
> or we'll worry to death
>
> i want to crack wireless password,
> so i can connect to my neighbours' router
> which provide Internet access
>
> as far as i know their isp charge are fixed, independent of traffic volume
> and i won't use much, so i'm unwilling to pay isp
> it does little harm to my neighbors
>
> On Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:40 AM, deloptes  wrote:
>
> Long Wind wrote:
>
>> i've installed reaver
>> how to know bssid? it's required argumentfrom wicd-gtk, i click
>> "Properties" then "Information"i can see Access point address, it's
>> bssid?? after i enter reaver with -i, -b and -vv, nothing seems to happen
>> Thanks!
>
> I agree with Reco, but you can try Kali Linux - there are pretty interesting
> tools there
>
> regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[John Hasler]

Michelle Konzack writes:
> I was attacked by honny pots of the NSA!

I wrote:
> How can you be attacked by a honey pot?

> The start a DOS or a hack attemped

Not a honeypot.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2018-02-24 hackte John Hasler in die Tasten:
> Michelle Konzack writes:
>> I was attacked by honny pots of the NSA!
>
> How can you be attacked by a honey pot?

The start a DOS or a hack attemped and if your
system start defending, you are traped...

They claim you have violated the security of an IT infrastructure
(in my case an US nuclear facility) and kick your server off with
the help of your local law enforcement...

In my case, my Mail- and Cloud-Servis is used by a bunch of PMCs
which realy start hateing the USA many years ago...  The behaviour
of the USA is just worse...

Some of my camerads disappeard/vanishe completely unexpected and
much more. Especially the USA are hacking european servers and
spying massively, more then russia and china together...

Thanks in advance

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[John Hasler]

Michelle Konzack writes:
> I was attacked by honny pots of the NSA!

How can you be attacked by a honey pot?
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

Michelle Konzack wrote:

> Am 2018-02-24 hackte deloptes in die Tasten:
>> But hey, with so many Russians in Estonia, you may be sure that at least
>> Russia will not nuke you, so be positive about what you have ;-) (irony
>> off). There are always two sides, you know.
> 
> They could try the same as they have done it with Crimea...
> 
> There is a group of russians in Estonia which try to do this,
> but they will get the worst nightmare on the neck...
> 
> However, it will take at least two years to get the WHOLE rest
> of my german and french enterprises to Estonia...  ;-)
> 
> Then I am more or less 90% operational.
> 
> Maybe I will restart TDAerospace and TDTechnology ;-)
> 
> Two enterprises where frenchies have tried to steal my inventions!

 one is for sure, you need a good psychiatrist and lawyer 

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2018-02-24 hackte deloptes in die Tasten:
> But hey, with so many Russians in Estonia, you may be sure that at least
> Russia will not nuke you, so be positive about what you have ;-) (irony
> off). There are always two sides, you know.

They could try the same as they have done it with Crimea...

There is a group of russians in Estonia which try to do this,
but they will get the worst nightmare on the neck...

However, it will take at least two years to get the WHOLE rest
of my german and french enterprises to Estonia...  ;-)

Then I am more or less 90% operational.

Maybe I will restart TDAerospace and TDTechnology ;-)

Two enterprises where frenchies have tried to steal my inventions!

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

Michelle Konzack wrote:

> Maybe, because you are one of the russian ST. Petersbug Troll Academy?
> 
> I know very well, how this russian trolls are working arround the planet
> since many many years.

May be you have to change the type of coffee you drink, or take care of your
high blood pressure.
IMO you are victim of NATO propaganda machinery - I know a lot of people
like you from Estonia in the North,Litva, Lituenia, Poland all the way down
to Bulgaria. Respect to NATO for doing such a good job in the past 20y.

Most of all I don't want to argue with NATO trolls like you. It is indeed
pointless.

And NO I have nothing to do with Russia. I have just another opinion and I
am lucky to be in a country where people are educated and don't have a two
dimensional black view.

But hey, with so many Russians in Estonia, you may be sure that at least
Russia will not nuke you, so be positive about what you have ;-) (irony
off). There are always two sides, you know.

regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2018-02-24 hackte deloptes in die Tasten:
> well if you outlaw a certain group of people

???

Fist of all, Estonia has 1.4mio inhabitants and
lesser then the city of Munich in Germany ;-)

Second, there are arround 600.000 russians in Estonia
and a signifikant number of them, refuse to accept Estonia.

Since this immigration was forced by Russia long time ago, the have  the
right to stay, BUT MANY OF THEM, refuse the estonian citizenship.   What
do you mean with Outlaw now?  That THIS russians do not have  the  right
to vote in Estonia and get access to things,  Estonian  and  EU  members
have?

This NON-ESTONIAN russian have a special status (can  stay  without  any
limitations in Estonia) and a special ID and as long as  they  have  it,
they are considered russians.

There is not a singel country  on  the  planet  where  such  things  are
different.

> it will become involved in
> criminal activities and as far as I know Russians become second class in

Being criminal is an indivudual choice.  Most russions do not contribute
to the estonian state (e.g. TAX payer) and andy businesses they  do  are
in cash and non declared...  This is a damage to the state!

> your "wonderful" country, while everybody in Europe is shouting for
> democracy and equal rights.

Russia is NOT part of the EU and if  certain  russians  feel  they  are
russians and refuse to accept the citizenship from the country in which
THEY WHERE BORN, they still stay foreigner!!!

They can be already happy, that the democracy  allow  them  to  stay  in
estonia freely!  Estonia does  NOT  kill  russians,  but  russians  have
eradicated more then 1/3 of the estonian population which is  DEFINITIVE
genocide!

> it is pointless discussion.

Maybe, because you are one of the russian ST. Petersbug Troll Academy?

I know very well, how this russian trolls are working arround the planet
since many many years.

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

Michelle Konzack wrote:

> The problem is only, that more then 80% of prisoners ARE russians!

well if you outlaw a certain group of people it will become involved in
criminal activities and as far as I know Russians become second class in
your "wonderful" country, while everybody in Europe is shouting for
democracy and equal rights.

it is pointless discussion.

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Not funny either. Folks, what's the matter with you?

I did not mean how many people are murdered, but (if you are familiar with
the developments in eastern Europe) those NATO slaves propagate a danger
coming from Russia, while they are killing themselves. 
It is not funny that people die, but it is funny the perception the others
there have.

regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Long Wind]

Thank Hans!

I find your mail in Spam folder of Yahoo Mail. 

On Saturday, February 24, 2018 3:24 AM, Hans  wrote:
 

 Am Freitag, 23. Februar 2018, 22:55:30 CET schrieb Long Wind:
Google after these informations in the web, there are lots of descriptions and 
youtube videos:
 
Try "Kismet", it gives you every information, you need.
Capture  the password (airmon-ng, airodump-ng, aireplay-ng)
Crack the password with aircrack-ng, reaver or whatever you want.

Isn't reaver not just for cracking WPS?

Warning: Accept the law!!!

Best regards

Hans
> i've installed reaver
> how to know bssid? it's required argumentfrom wicd-gtk, i click "Properties"
> then "Information"i can see Access point address, it's bssid?? after i
> enter reaver with -i, -b and -vv, nothing seems to happen
> Thanks!




   

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[tomas]

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On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:54:41AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2018-02-24 hackte to...@tuxteam.de in die Tasten:
> > Not funny either. Folks, what's the matter with you?
> 
> The world become lawless and fucked up.  If peoplee believe,
> they have the right to hack others Internet connection...

Personally I've no more problems with hacking than I'd have with
shoplifting or pickpocketing: not nice, but there's law enforcement
or commensurate protective measures.

But talk about "exterminating" people or "haha" about high crime
rates, well, I find that difficult to digest, especially when it
comes from otherwise obviously intelligent people I somewhat care
about.

Cheers
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Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2018-02-24 hackte to...@tuxteam.de in die Tasten:
> Not funny either. Folks, what's the matter with you?

The world become lawless and fucked up.  If peoplee believe,
they have the right to hack others Internet connection...

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2018-02-24 hackte deloptes in die Tasten:
> Michelle Konzack wrote:
>
>> I am in Estonia and we had such attacks from russians  spamers  and
>>  war
>> drivers.  There are nice counter measures!
>>
>> Welcome to "The World of Estonian Cyber Defense"!
>
> I just read today that Estonia is in top 3 of murder in Europe. I don't
> think you need the Russians. Over 80 murders per 10.

The problem is only, that more then 80% of prisoners ARE russians!

> haha, you made my day

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[tomas]

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On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 10:31:57AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> > I am in Estonia and we had such attacks from russians  spamers  and  war
> > drivers.  There are nice counter measures!
> > 
> > Welcome to "The World of Estonian Cyber Defense"!
> 
> I just read today that Estonia is in top 3 of murder in Europe. I don't
> think you need the Russians. Over 80 murders per 10.
> 
> haha, you made my day

Not funny either. Folks, what's the matter with you?

Cheers
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Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

Michelle Konzack wrote:

> I am in Estonia and we had such attacks from russians  spamers  and  war
> drivers.  There are nice counter measures!
> 
> Welcome to "The World of Estonian Cyber Defense"!

I just read today that Estonia is in top 3 of murder in Europe. I don't
think you need the Russians. Over 80 murders per 10.

haha, you made my day

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[tomas]

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On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:25:05AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:

[...]

> My mailservers are hit every day by several 100.000 spams from china.
> If there is now law, it seems death penalty is the only solution!
> 
> The financial damages spamers and hackers produce, is much  higher  then
> the extermination of chinese criminals.

I take issue with those both things. Even when meant ironically (that
doesn't come across too well in mails, y'know) they ain't funny.

Cheers
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Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Michelle Konzack]

It seems you want to end your life!

Am 2018-02-24 hackte Long Wind in die Tasten:
> Thank Reco and deloptes!
> what i suspect turn out to be true: for ethical reason users here refuse
> to help

They have a reason!

> if reaver is used mainly by bad guy, why debian include it in stable?
> i'm in CHina, a land not ruled by law
> jungle law still holds, we chinese can't worry too muchor we'll worry to
> death

I hope so!

> i want to crack wireless password,so i can connect to my neighbours'
> routerwhich provide Internet access

My mailservers are hit every day by several 100.000 spams from china.
If there is now law, it seems death penalty is the only solution!

The financial damages spamers and hackers produce, is much  higher  then
the extermination of chinese criminals.

> as far as i know their isp charge are fixed, independent of traffic
> volumeand i won't use much, so i'm unwilling to pay ispit does little harm
> to my neighbors

This is exactly what CRACKERS and Mass-Spamers do...
Using foreign hijacked internet connections!

I am in Estonia and we had such attacks from russians  spamers  and  war
drivers.  There are nice counter measures!

Welcome to "The World of Estonian Cyber Defense"!

I use since more then 15 years a very sopisticated program to hijack ANY
attackes and own theire computer used!  It  can  use  more  then  80.000
different exploits!  Hard to beat that!

in 2011 my enterprise/network in  Germany  was  under  attack  of  6  IP
adresses and since I was not able to get the onwer of  the  IPs,  I  was
able to shutdown theire whole network!  Then I got in less  the  1  hour
later visit from german police which tried to arrest me!

Fortunately I could proove, that I was the victime, since toe police had
an IP Expert with them...

I was attacked by honny pots of the NSA!

This is violation of IT Security and State-Terrorism!

So, I am very angry with Spamers and Crackers  and  also  peoples  which
have no worry, hijacking non-owned WiFi APs.


-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[deloptes]

Long Wind wrote:

> i've installed reaver
> how to know bssid? it's required argumentfrom wicd-gtk, i click
> "Properties" then "Information"i can see Access point address, it's
> bssid?? after i enter reaver with -i, -b and -vv, nothing seems to happen
> Thanks!

I agree with Reco, but you can try Kali Linux - there are pretty interesting
tools there

regards

Re: need help on cracking wireless password

[Reco]

Hi.

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 09:55:30PM +, Long Wind wrote:
> i've installed reaver
> how to know bssid? it's required argumentfrom wicd-gtk, i click "Properties" 
> then "Information"i can see Access point address, it's bssid??
> after i enter reaver with -i, -b and -vv, nothing seems to happen

I don't know about China, but here where I live using reaver considered
a criminal activity.
So I refuse to participate in this thread further, but I'll give you a
hint - airdump-ng.

Reco