[Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRY/COUNTRIES

2004-05-28 Thread Markus Gufler

If a message has the folloging country-chain:

X-Country-Chain: THAILAND-UNITED STATES-destination

And I have a filter file containing only the entry

COUNTRY 1   CONTAINSus

why does this trigger the filter?

As I know COUNTRY should be triggered only if the first country matches.
To catch a country if somewhere in the country-chain we should use
COUNTRIES.

Or am I missing something?

Markus



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains test

2004-05-28 Thread Larry Craddock
Thanks Bill. I checked the archives and found one from Nov.28,2003 ... just 
got it setup.

thanks again,
Larry Craddock
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Thanks everyone. Now that I understand how to use the test, does anyone
have a spamdomains.txt file that includes the entries for the domains
most commonly used that they could share?
Check the archives, Larry.  I have posted mine to the list several times.
If you cannot locate it, send me a e-mail off-list and I will send it to
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRY/COUNTRIES

2004-05-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

If a message has the folloging country-chain:
X-Country-Chain: THAILAND-UNITED STATES-destination
And I have a filter file containing only the entry
COUNTRY 1   CONTAINSus
why does this trigger the filter?
Because that's how it is designed to work.  The country that the E-mail 
came to your server from was the United States.

As I know COUNTRY should be triggered only if the first country matches.
To catch a country if somewhere in the country-chain we should use
COUNTRIES.
Or am I missing something?
That's backwards -- COUNTRY will look at the last country in the list (the 
one that connected to your mailserver), not the first one.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRY/COUNTRIES

2004-05-28 Thread Markus Gufler

 That's backwards -- COUNTRY will look at the last country in 
 the list (the one that connected to your mailserver), not the 
 first one.

Would it be possible to have an entry looking only for the country the
message has started his way?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRY/COUNTRIES

2004-05-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

 That's backwards -- COUNTRY will look at the last country in
 the list (the one that connected to your mailserver), not the
 first one.
Would it be possible to have an entry looking only for the country the
message has started his way?
No -- I believe the only way to do that would be using COUNTRIES (which 
would detect the country if it was anywhere in the country chain).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRY/COUNTRIES

2004-05-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Slightly off this topic but if I have the all_list.dat file in my
declude directory but I do not any COUNTRY/COUNTRIES filters then

X-Country-Chain: Somewhere-Otherwhere-destination

Will show up in the headers but no points will be added to the score of
the e-mail. Right?


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe


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   That's backwards -- COUNTRY will look at the last country in
   the list (the one that connected to your mailserver), not the
   first one.
 
 Would it be possible to have an entry looking only for the country
the
 message has started his way?
 
 No -- I believe the only way to do that would be using COUNTRIES
(which
 would detect the country if it was anywhere in the country chain).
 
 -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRY/COUNTRIES

2004-05-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

Slightly off this topic but if I have the all_list.dat file in my
declude directory but I do not any COUNTRY/COUNTRIES filters then
X-Country-Chain: Somewhere-Otherwhere-destination
Will show up in the headers but no points will be added to the score of
the e-mail. Right?
That is correct.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRY/COUNTRIES

2004-05-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Great thank you


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe
 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302
 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5
 Phone: (416) 440-1167 x-2113
 Cell: (416) 931-0688
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 Slightly off this topic but if I have the all_list.dat file in my
declude
 directory but I do not any COUNTRY/COUNTRIES filters then
 
 Goran:
 
 Just in case it helps - attached is the country file we use.  Hope the
 group
 does not mind the attachment but this question comes up every so often
and
 perhaps it can help others.
 
 Adjust the weight for each country based on your traffic.
 
 Kami

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[Declude.JunkMail] DNS tests in separate file?

2004-05-28 Thread Rick Davidson
Is it possible to run the DNS RBL tests in a file other than the global
config file?

For example have them all in separate filter file that I can abort with
TESTFAILED END CONTAINS

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
440-953-9346 - Office
440-953-0925 - Fax
440-487-7344 - Mobile
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRY/COUNTRIES

2004-05-28 Thread Matt
R. Scott Perry wrote:
Would it be possible to have an entry looking only for the country the
message has started his way?

No -- I believe the only way to do that would be using COUNTRIES 
(which would detect the country if it was anywhere in the country chain).

How about using a STARTSWITH filter to do that.
COUNTRIES  3  STARTSWITH  us
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS tests in separate file?

2004-05-28 Thread Scott Fisher
You could have them assigned with a 0 weight in the global.cfg.

You can then use your filters to assign weights as described below.

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

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Is it possible to run the DNS RBL tests in a file other than the global
config file?

For example have them all in separate filter file that I can abort with
TESTFAILED END CONTAINS

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
440-953-9346 - Office
440-953-0925 - Fax
440-487-7344 - Mobile
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[Declude.JunkMail] Feature Request

2004-05-28 Thread jeff
Unless this already exists and I haven't seen it...  :)

The possibility to filter on SUBJECT where the mailbox/account 
appears.  We use accounts that are first initial/last name, and any 
mail that has that combination in the subject is virtually always 
SPAM.  So, since I'm jcochran, subjects like these would get filtered 
on:

Good News for jcochran!
jcochran approved for credit
Mortgages availble for the jcochran household
Attn:  jcochran

Just a thought, unless someone has a filter available to do this. I 
realize I could use a WORDFILTER and list all my accounts, but this 
would need to be maintained where a filter on the account name 
wouldn't normally need much maintenance.

Thanks,

Jeff
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[Declude.JunkMail] Filter / Log idea

2004-05-28 Thread Scott Fisher
I run my logs at high, and they are full of filter skipped with a current weight, set 
max weight, set min weight lines. I could run at a lower level, but I do like most of 
the data available in the high level logs.

My idea is to have a filter command line that can be added to filters to control 
logging.

No line (leaves logs as is)

LOGMATCHONLY would only log the lines that matched on the filters. 
This would not log  maxweight, minweight, skipifweight or END matches.

My thinking is that more log information is needed when creating and testing a new 
filter. When a filter becomes mature, only the match line is needed to be logged. And 
with the proposed command line, I would have the ability to control which filters 
would need more log information.

Dropping these undesired lines from mature filters would really decrease log sizes. 
Less logging would also help minimize the log corruption during peak times (dictionary 
attacks).

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Feature Request

2004-05-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

The possibility to filter on SUBJECT where the mailbox/account
appears.  We use accounts that are first initial/last name, and any
mail that has that combination in the subject is virtually always
SPAM.  So, since I'm jcochran, subjects like these would get filtered
on:
This is something that we have been considering.  The problem, though, is 
that false positives will vary tremendously depending on the account.  For 
example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is likely to get E-mails with a subject of I 
have a sales question, and the poor real estate agent with 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] would have lots of his mail fail the test.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS tests in separate file?

2004-05-28 Thread Rick Davidson
o the simplicity of it all :-)

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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You could have them assigned with a 0 weight in the global.cfg.

You can then use your filters to assign weights as described below.

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

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Is it possible to run the DNS RBL tests in a file other than the global
config file?

For example have them all in separate filter file that I can abort with
TESTFAILED END CONTAINS

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
440-953-9346 - Office
440-953-0925 - Fax
440-487-7344 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Declude.JunkMail] New Tests

2004-05-28 Thread Karl Hentschel
This question has probably already been posted before. Is there a list
anywhere that lists all the new tests in the beta versions that aren't
listed in the manual of the release? For example DOW and SPF.  Is there any
easier way to find the documentation for these test other than looking
through the archives? Are there any other tests that have been included and
how would I find out about them? Thanks.


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Tests

2004-05-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

This question has probably already been posted before. Is there a list
anywhere that lists all the new tests in the beta versions that aren't
listed in the manual of the release? For example DOW and SPF.  Is there any
easier way to find the documentation for these test other than looking
through the archives? Are there any other tests that have been included and
how would I find out about them? Thanks.
You can find out about tests in the latest beta either directly in the 
release notes at http://www.declude.com/relnotes.htm , or indirectly 
through this list.

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