RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module

[Evans Martin]

You know, Craig, you were a customer of
mine as recently as February when you ordered IPlus Info Browser from my
website. You would think that a person who used to write software in
support of this bunch of clowns MIGHT just have some insight into the direction
that these companies are taking. I HAVE talked to MOST of the leaders of
both Declude  IPSwitch and expressed my concern with their direction and
have been told that it is in the best interest of the company to do that which
I perceived as screwing their existing customer base. They made a choice.



Theyre soaking you! Theyre
bleeding you for ever penny and offering up software that just doesnt do
the job as well as it used to because they are more concerned about the bottom
line than they are about writing quality software anymore. When the user
community is crying out for one feature and they deliver something completely
different, it is obvious that they just dont care about my business or
yours anymore. When the same bug hangs around for two years and doesnt
get fixed that bugs me. When they jack the price up so high that it runs
the little guy right out of business, it concerns me. Doesnt that
offend you in the least little bit?



If you want to call me a muppet and demand
that I be removed from this list for that reason than so be it but I think youre
the one being the muppet. Why dont you lighten up and allow others
to express their opinions without your BS threats. After all, thats
what a forum is all about. If an announce list is what you want, why dont
you be our leader and start by unsubscribing yourself.



Evans Martin

















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Edmonds
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006
3:36 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module
Importance: High





Can someone please remove this absolute
muppet from this newsgroup?







Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006
7:40 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module

Wow!Yet another company
goes the way of IPSwitch. I'm so glad that I found ASSP. I just
wish I hadn't wasted all that money and time on Declude.

Does anyone want to buy my company and run off all of my customers? I'm
beginning to feel like I need to go back to business school. Maybe I have
missed the bus somewhere since it seems to be the way of thing among mid-sized
technology based companies. Help!

Evans Martin







From: Gerry
Comeau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006
8:16 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module 

Valued customers,

I made the decision to suspend the acceptance of cases via email
([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The email function will continue to be available
until we're ready to flip the switch. The reply you receive after
you
send an email to the support address was modified in an attempt to educate
you that change was in the air. The date of August 28th was published and
it's obviously wrong. That was the planned date. You will have adequate
warning before we make the change. Additionally, you'll continue to receive
email notices from case submissions via the web.

I'd like to say, in closing, that one of the goals of this change is to
ensure we're supporting our paying customers. Let's say you're a paying
customer and you're unable to get our attention and unbeknown to you we're
working with customers that have expired agreements or general sales
questions, I don't think you'd like that, I wouldn't. Another goal is to
track the number of cases, the time it takes to solve and case patterns.
This data will be used for staffing purposes as well as informing Product
Marketing of what we see as new feature/functionality items. Naturally,
bugs will be expedited to Engineering, another benefit of using the CRM
system as they will be using the same case management tool. Lastly we will
be implementing a severity and priority process to ensure the inbound web
cases are treated on a FIFO and severity/priority basis. If you have a
situation that can't wait, please use the phone. 

My apologies for the length of this message, however I do think you're
entitled to why we're making the change as well as components of the near to
long term support plan.

Regards,

Gerry Comeau 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
Steiner
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:12 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case
management module

It's a catch-22. You send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get a reply
back saying that they will no longer pay attention

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module

[Evans Martin]

LOL! I certainly do. Those
were definitely the good old days. We were all working toward a common
goal and no one thought that their product was so awesome that you had to own a
diamond mine to pay for it. What is so ironic is that my first copy of
Declude was given to me by Scott in exchange for some advertising on my website
and because I thought both he and his product rocked and sang his praises every
chance I got.



I was never really shot in the butt with
IMail but it was light years ahead of the other Windows based products when we
first went out looking for a mail server. Back then I was an IPSwitch WebVar
and bought every piece of software they made for $495 dollars. I thought
that it was a very good deal and set about to support them in every way I could
 even going so far as to write IPlus Info Browser and give it away until
someone told me I was an idiot for giving it away and really should start
charging for it.



I hate that Craig has had such a bad day
that he needs to vent on me and perhaps he is right to some degree. I
really should just give up on Declude and leave this list. The only
reason Im still on the lists is because I hang on to the slim hope that
someone will catch on and take Declude back in the direction that it came
from. I would support it if I thought it was a good product for a fair
price but I feel that it has deviated from that path and just wanted to express
my opinion and offer ASSP as an alternative that works well for me.



I used to be very active in both IMail and
Declude forums and would never have considered switching to ASSP had I not felt
used by both companies. When a product price triples in a year and the
bugs are still not getting fixed and theyre adding content that feels
like theyre running off down a dead end path, its hard to stay
positive.



I wont post anymore negative
comments on this list but I may lurk around in hopes of a quantum shift in
corporate policy. As for Craig, I hope he gets some good rest this weekend,
gets some special attention from his special person, drinks a beer or two and
comes to understand that what people post on an email list shouldnt
raise his blood pressure. Hell live a longer, happier life if he
can get that temper under control and quit popping off for nothing.



Thanks for all the years of fun
guys. cloaking mode on



Evans Martin













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
T (Lists)
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006
5:32 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module





Gee, I guess people miss the good ole
days of shall we say heated discussions on the Imail list between Len and Scott
or Len and Sandy that it needs to be revived here!





John T

eServices For You



Seek, and ye shall
find!







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Raykiewicz
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006
2:33 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module



Well craig, it seems you missed the
point. I was simply trying to show you how silly you look for requesting
someone to be removed from the list.

It has been my exprience that this list works well because you have people that
point out both the negative and the positive. If I follow your logic you
seem to think that if I don't know there is a problem then there is no
problem. That doesn't work in my world. I want to know the good the
bad and the ugly.

People always have differing opinions of everything. Without that we have
hitler's dream world. Without that we only have 1/4th of the knowledge
that we need to make sound decisions.

Let Evans say what he wants. I find it informative. What makes me
anymore right than you or vice versa?

Joe







From: Craig
Edmonds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006
8:04 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module 

Yeah right, Joseph.

Unlike Evans, I pay declude several thousand dollars a year for my declude
licenses, and am absolutely thrilled with the declude product, no complaints
here, it works great, its cut out nearly all the spam my 5,000 + email users
used to get before. 

In addition, the declude customer support has been first class and I have
been treated like a king by the new management team, probably because
respect works both ways.

There are a few people out there though who were unhappy with Barry's
departure because it affected their pricing and continue to moan
and
complain and find things wrong with the product. I would say, based on Evans
postings that he is certainly one of them and because he cant get his way,
is just finding things to pick on.

Evans actually admits that he is not a declude client anymore but continues
to post anti declude propoganda on this forum which I think every

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Gateway question

[Evans Martin]

Check out IPlus Info Browser at http://www.martekware.com.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
 Doyle
 Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:07 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Gateway question
 
 
 Good morning
 
 Can anyone recommend a program to strip user and password data to assist
 in
 loading a gateway.
 username, domain and password.
 
 I know this has come up in the past several times, but I'm looking for a
 recommendation by someone
 who has actually used it.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 
 
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RE: [Spam Test] [Declude.JunkMail] Test

[Evans Martin]

Pong

Sure is quite.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
 (Lists)
 Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:38 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Spam Test] [Declude.JunkMail] Test
 
 ping
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 Seek, and ye shall find!
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT SNMP Monitor Program

[Evans Martin]

Have you looked at programs that graph Cisco NetFlow data?  There are some
good open source tools.  Inexpensive would be Paessler's PRTG
http://www.paessler.com.  There are tons of tools out there and it might
work for you.

Evans Martin

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dfn
 Systems
 Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 7:58 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT SNMP Monitor Program
 
 Quiet times are good for off topic subjects Right?
 I need a Monitoring program that will show me bandwidth utilization of
 my dsl customers to help track down compromised/infected  machines.
 Regular sniffer programs won't work because the customers connect
 through ATM PVC and go out to the Internet through another PVC without
 ever leaving the router. Something that will read and graph from a cisco
 MIB on SNMP is what I'm seeking. It doesn't have to be robust or even
 incredibly stable. Cheap would be good. Free (Open Source) would be even
 better.
 
 Any leads would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Bill Green
 dfn Systems
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re: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.7 3.1.1 Released

[Evans Martin]

 
		The download links seem to still be pointed at 3.1.0 files.  When will they be updated so I can download the latest version?Thanks,Evans Martin
		

From: "David Barker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:03 AMTo: declude.virus@declude.com, declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.7  3.1.1 Released
		
		Declude Security Suite 4.3.7JM ADD Added x-header for CommTouch RefID JM FIX COPYFILE not workingcorrectly when COPYFILEACTIONWITHHEADERS ON directiveJM FIX Declude crash fix. Buffer Overflow reading the From: line in theHeadersSM FIX Failed .hdr to be DELETED rather than moved to the \error directorHI FIX Spam messages set for HOLD and DELETE moved back to the Spool whenintercepted by Hijack3.1.1JM FIX COPYFILE not working correctly when COPYFILEACTIONWITHHEADERS ONdirectiveSM FIX QUEUEFILE_SAVEFILE the log is showing the correct directory pathSM FIX Failed .hdr to be DELETED rather than moved to the \error directorDEC FIX A Global variable being initialized more than once has beencorrectedHI FIX Spam messages set for HOLD and DELETE moved back to the Spool whenintercepted by HijackEVA FIX BANEXT buffer overflowEVA FIX ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM (for user)---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: ColdFusion 4.5 on IIS6?

[Evans Martin]

Thank you, Matt. I assumed as much but wanted to pass it
through the wealth of tech wizardry here on this list first. As usual, you
guys rock!



Thanks again,

Evans Martin















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:32
AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: ColdFusion 4.5 on IIS6?





I don't believe that 4.5 works with Windows 2003, or at least not
without some manual tweaking, but I kind of doubt that. For information
on configuring 5.x and 6.x with IIS 6.0, you can use the following directions:

 http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18689

4.5 is also no longer supported and it would be wise to upgrade for security
reasons.

Matt


Evans Martin wrote: 

Does anyone have any experience running CF 4.5 on IIS6? We
upgraded our servers to Windows Server 2003 over the weekend and it has broken
ColdFusion. What needs to be done to make it work?



Thanks,

Evans Martin



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iPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: ColdFusion 4.5 on IIS6?

[Evans Martin]

Does
anyone have any experience running CF 4.5 on IIS6? We upgraded our servers to
Windows Server 2003 over the weekend and it has broken ColdFusion. What needs
to be done to make it work?



Thanks,

Evans
Martin



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re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Surgemail

[Evans Martin]

		I haven't used SurgeMail before but I can help you with the migration process from IMail to any other mail server.  Our product, iPlus Info Browser will export all important user information from the IMail database INCLUDING USER PASSWORDS.  This makes migration a breeze.  If you're interested, check it out at:http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96Thanks,Evans MartinMartekWare.Com
		

From: Orin Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:06 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Surgemail
		
		Does anyone have experience with Surgemail? If so what can you say about it positive or negative. How do you feel it compares with iMail?I as because my partner has been pushing me to look at Surgemail since we are in the midst of a major migration on our mail server (we will actually have a separate mail server)If anyone has moved a server from iMail to Surgemail, what/how was the experience?---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

[Declude.JunkMail] IPlus Info Browser 4 SmarterMail

[Evans Martin]

At MartekWare we have started development on iPB for
SmarterMail. Were still in the earliest stages of development but would
like to involve the community in the process. If you would be interested in
participating in our beta, please contact me off list.



Thank You,

Evans Martin



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Live Web Log Analyzer

[Evans Martin]

Have you tried SmarterStats?  My customers love it.
http://www.smartertools.com.

Evans Martin


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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:26 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Live Web Log Analyzer
 
 Hi,
 
 I've been running LiveStats ISP, but it's been terribly buggy for larger
 sites (not to speak of the fact, that its database columns are too small
 to
 deal with high volume sites - e.g., you can have more than 204 GB
 bandwidth in any given period, such as weekly or monthly).  Now they don't
 even respond to requests to update me on the status of my reported
 problems
 - while the system has been down for 2 weeks due to a reproducible
 failure.
 
 Webtrends has never been shining either, with respect to stability
 and/or
 support.
 
 I do need an IIS web log analyzer that:
 
 A) offers ad-hoc ('live') reporting
 
 B) uses a database structure that does not limit volume (e.g., a JET
 database won't do).
 
 What is everyone else out there using?
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation

[Evans Martin]

		We are currently working on a SmarterMail version of iPlus Info Browser and have been researching the SmarterMail webservices rather extensively.  We should be able to write you a tool to do bulk imports of users into SmarterMail.  If you are interested, please contact me off list.Thanks,Evans Martin
		

From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:08 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation
		
		No import. Brand New box. They are migrating from a Open Source MailSolution to Windows 2003/SmarterMail. I'm assuming we'll have to enterevery user by hand.I'm trying to get a feel for how much time I should reasonably quote.When I say reasonable, I mean that I don't want to bill the client forour learning curve and RTFM time.Thursday, March 23, 2006, 12:13:12 PM, Dave Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:DD Are you importing from an IMail installation? My experience with that wasDD very good, except they forgot to do the domain aliases. I didn't try DD autoresponders, but that should be minimal. It brought over all the mail asDD well.DD Most of the time I spent on the project was in configruing add-ons likeDD Declude, Sniffer, inv-uribl, etc., not the main product.DD Installation of the product itself is pretty straightforward. I read theDD forum posts and decided that, even though I didn't like the paths theyDD chose, I should accept the defaults. It seems that most of the people whoDD were having really odd problems were using different paths. Having saidDD that, all the path-problem type posts I saw were with V2 and the current V3DD should be a lot better.DD As an example, the product installs in "c:\program DD files\smartertools\smartermail" where I would much rather have it in DD "c:\smartermail" to make it easier to get to.DD One word of caution: there appear to be oddball problems with the alternateDD "skins," which are really just color schemes. Conventional wisdom on theDD forums seems to be "just use the default skin"...DD -Dave DohertyDD Skywaves, Inc.DD - Original Message - DD From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>DD To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com>DD Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:42 PMDD Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation We've been asked to estimate/quote an installation of SmarterMail, which we've not actually installed before. There are 4 domains with fixed IP addresses, 64 POP boxes  WebMail and 5 two-three sentence auto-responders. For those of you who have been through it before, could you give me an idea of how much time you feel is reasonable, not including our own RTFM and learning curve time. Thanks,  Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364 Fax: (972) 788-5049  --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. DD ---DD This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. ToDD unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andDD type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundDD at http://www.mail-archive.com.Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net(972) 788-2364 Fax: (972) 788-5049---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

[Evans Martin]

Im generally more of a lurker on
this list than an active participant but  Craig, get a life. I
didnt start seeing posts from you until February of this year. The
rest of us have been here for many years and have made active contributions to
the Declude community. 



I value the opinions of this group like
I do no other. This community is both broad and deep in their knowledge
of all things IT related. You should be thankful to have becoming a
member of this community instead of being a nuisance. 



Please take your accusations and your
return receipt requests somewhere else if you cant play nice with the
other children here.



Evans Martin







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Craig Edmonds
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:27
AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: Microsoft Open License
Importance: High





Matt,



Well Matt, all I care about is how to
improve the performance of my declude install, thats what this list is for.



Probably why this list is called
DECLUDE.JUNKMAIL not
DECLUDE.CAFE.LETS.TALK.ABOUT.ABOUT.A.WIDE.RANGE.OF.TOPICS.



And Matt, this post.


http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg28338.html



.becasue this list is called
DECLUDE.JUNKMAIL, I was under the impression that it had something to do with
the Declude Junkmail filter, which is why I was interested in finding out what
it was.



So dont try and point fingers at me mate.



I only caught the last posting of that
thread and thought the ms smtp comhad something to do with declude.



Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 12:00
AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: Microsoft Open License

Craig,

I don't know whether or not you figured this out, but it is somewhat rare that
someone from Declude posts to this list, and most of the conversations are
between fellow administrators and can span a wide range of topics. Even
you are guilty of this:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg28338.html

As I pointed out, this license issue affects everyone that offers a service of
any sort from a Windows platform. It's not like I'm sharing
recipes...though I'm sure that has happened before around here.

Matt



Craig Edmonds wrote: 

um I thought this was a junk mail list
aimed at discussing Declude?



I did not know it was to rant about
Microsoft stuff?



Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006
9:05 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: Microsoft Open License

Shayne (and Kevin),

Rant = on

I see now that under the SPLA program, they seem to indicate in a very
round-about way that you have to use SPLA, in fact, you have to purchase a
separate license per processor for anonymous access to IIS over the
Internet. What a crock of s#*t that is. This is the third such
program that I recall seeing Microsoft push on the down-low trying to claim
some sort of special fees for using IIS on the Internet. It is clear as
day that they don't market their product in a manner consistent with the SPLA
program. They updated their EULA however to include the following;
Renting, leasing, or lending the Software (including providing commercial
hosting services) is also prohibited. This means that everyone
using IMail, SmarterMail, or whatever app that runs on a Windows platform and
is accessed over the Internet must switch

[Declude.JunkMail] Damaged Image Files

[Evans Martin]

Im
getting a lot of messages that have only a graphic in them.  The graphic
appears to have been damaged as only about ½ of it displays.  Declude has not
modified the headers at all so Im not sure if these are being scanned or
not.  I dont know how it could be bypassing Declude.  I have attached
the .msg file.  Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?



Im
running Declude 3.0.5.22 and SmarterMail 2.6.





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MailPure?

[Evans Martin]

Thanks for the info Matt. Im going to dig in and try
to get my feet wet in the filter arena soon. I appreciate the help.



Evans













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006
1:26 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
MailPure?





Evans,

I put back up the Beta filters directory on my server at:

 http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/beta

There are two _vbscript_ filters in there, Size and BlankSubject.
BlankSubject is the more modern of the two and gives a good example of how to
parse multiple script arguments, open an E-mail and process it using some
RegEx.

Declude 2.0.6+ also supports bitmasked codes, so you can write a single
external script that returns a single code than can be parsed by Declude to
mean multiple test failures. This is of course a huge advantage to having
multiple separate tests that do the same things over and over again. You
can do something like 30 bitmasked result codes this way. You should
search the archives for this list for more information if you get to the point
of trying this out.

Matt



Evans Martin wrote: 

I would like to try my hand at writing filters. Does
anyone have any sample vb source code? Maybe just a skeleton I could use
to learn from?



Thanks,

Evans Martin







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006
12:56 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
MailPure?







Here's my link to filters / external programs that I found over time.
Publically (meaning free) available filters / external programs have dropped
off over time.











http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/declude.htm











The Mailpure filters were very educational. They definitely taught me a
lot about filters when I was a new Declude user.





I still use modified version of foreign / anti-av / and the tld
filters.







- Original Message - 





From: Matt






To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 





Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:43 PM





Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MailPure?









Evans,

I haven't updated these filters in a while, and most of my development has been
in _vbscript_ plug-ins instead of native Declude filters for the past two
years. I recently removed all of the old pages from my site since they were
stagnant. I can put back up some of the filters that I had listed there
if you wish. They are at least educational in terms of what you can do
with Declude's native filtering. Scott Fisher also has a page up that
lists several good resources for filters including some plug-ins. I can't
recall the link though.

Matt



Evans Martin wrote: 

I went to MailPure.Com to see if they had any new filter files today
and noticed that the link is broken and that their main page is just a logo
page without any links now. Are they still providing filter files?



Evans Martin







EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com



iPlus Info Browser  IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password
browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail
administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers

[Evans Martin]

If ClamWin doesn't do on access scanning and it is the only virus scanner
running on my system, to what can I attribute the errors in this log
segment?

01/22/2006 00:11:52.187 42470405 Vulnerability flags = 0
01/22/2006 00:11:52.234 42470405 Error 87 starting scanner
[C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5 /NOFLOPPY
/NOBOOT /DUMB /PACKED /REPORT=report.txt
c:\SMARTE~1\Spool\proc\work\42470405.vir\]; NOT SCANNING ATTACHMENTS! Error
String: [The parameter is incorrect.]
01/22/2006 00:11:52.234 42470405 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files were deleted.
You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans the \IMail
directory or sub-directories.
01/22/2006 00:11:52.234 42470405 Scanned: Error starting scanner
01/22/2006 00:12:32.312 42470406 Vulnerability flags = 0
01/22/2006 00:12:32.343 42470406 Error 87 starting scanner
[C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5 /NOFLOPPY
/NOBOOT /DUMB /PACKED /REPORT=report.txt
c:\SMARTE~1\Spool\proc\work\42470406.vir\]; NOT SCANNING ATTACHMENTS! Error
String: [The parameter is incorrect.]
01/22/2006 00:12:32.343 42470406 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files were deleted.
You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans the \IMail
directory or sub-directories.
01/22/2006 00:12:32.343 42470406 Scanned: Error starting scanner
01/22/2006 00:12:42.437 42470407 Vulnerability flags = 0
01/22/2006 00:12:42.453 42470407 Scanned: Virus Free [Prescan OK][MIME: 1
3031]
01/22/2006 00:12:47.593 42470408 Vulnerability flags = 0
01/22/2006 00:12:47.625 42470408 Error 87 starting scanner
[C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5 /NOFLOPPY
/NOBOOT /DUMB /PACKED /REPORT=report.txt
c:\SMARTE~1\Spool\proc\work\42470408.vir\]; NOT SCANNING ATTACHMENTS! Error
String: [The parameter is incorrect.]
01/22/2006 00:12:47.625 42470408 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files were deleted.
You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans the \IMail
directory or sub-directories.
01/22/2006 00:12:47.625 42470408 Scanned: Error starting scanner
01/22/2006 00:13:27.718 42470409 Vulnerability flags = 0
01/22/2006 00:13:27.734 42470409 MIME file: [text/html][*DEFAULT*;
Length=2063 Checksum=158746]
01/22/2006 00:13:27.734 42470409 Scanned: Virus Free [Prescan OK][MIME: 2
3360]
01/22/2006 00:13:47.890 42470410 Vulnerability flags = 0
01/22/2006 00:13:47.906 42470410 Error 87 starting scanner
[C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5 /NOFLOPPY
/NOBOOT /DUMB /PACKED /REPORT=report.txt
c:\SMARTE~1\Spool\proc\work\42470410.vir\]; NOT SCANNING ATTACHMENTS! Error
String: [The parameter is incorrect.]
01/22/2006 00:13:47.906 42470410 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files were deleted.
You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans the \IMail
directory or sub-directories.
01/22/2006 00:13:47.906 42470410 Scanned: Error starting scanner

Thanks,
Evans Martin

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:47 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
 
 Evans,
 
 I use F-Prot, ClamWin, AVG and NOD32, in that order.
 
 I don't use ClamWin to do scheduled scans and it doesn't do on-access
 scanning, so it doesn't interfere with F-Prot in any way.
 
 George
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
  Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:41 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
 
  What do you guys use for virus protection on your servers?  I am trying
 to
  use ClamWin but it is competing with Declude Virus/FProt.  I looked for
 a
  place to exclude my mail folders and it doesn't seem to allow
 directories
  to be excluded, only filenames.  I'm trying to stay open source or
 really
  cheap because of the number of machines that I have and Clam has always
  worked well on my X machines.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Evans Martin
 
 
 
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  reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MailPure?

[Evans Martin]

I would like to try my hand at writing filters. Does anyone
have any sample vb source code? Maybe just a skeleton I could use to learn
from?



Thanks,

Evans Martin







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006
12:56 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
MailPure?







Here's my link to filters / external programs that I found over time.
Publically (meaning free) available filters / external programs have dropped
off over time.











http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/declude.htm











The Mailpure filters were very educational. They definitely taught me a
lot about filters when I was a new Declude user.





I still use modified version of foreign / anti-av / and the tld
filters.







- Original Message - 





From: Matt 





To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 





Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:43 PM





Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MailPure?









Evans,

I haven't updated these filters in a while, and most of my development has been
in _vbscript_ plug-ins instead of native Declude filters for the past two
years. I recently removed all of the old pages from my site since they
were stagnant. I can put back up some of the filters that I had listed
there if you wish. They are at least educational in terms of what you can
do with Declude's native filtering. Scott Fisher also has a page up that
lists several good resources for filters including some plug-ins. I can't
recall the link though.

Matt



Evans Martin wrote: 

I went to MailPure.Com to see if they had any new filter files today
and noticed that the link is broken and that their main page is just a logo
page without any links now. Are they still providing filter files?



Evans Martin







EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]

HOSTING: http://www.martek.net

PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com



iPlus Info Browser  IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password
browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator
should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers

[Evans Martin]

I'm using the old 16-bit DOS version.  It only runs when Declude kicks it
off.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:29 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
 
 The F-Prot default setup does do on-access scanning.  You should either
 disable that which is the recommended Declude method, exclude the IMail
 directory and sub-directories from the F-Prot On-access scan.  I've
 enclosed
 excerpts from the Declude EVA Manual for your information.
 
 George
 
 3. F-Prot Help
 If you are using the F-Prot virus scanner, Declude Virus uses the F-Prot
 command line scanner, which is included in both their DOS and Windows
 version (the command line scanner in both is identical). The Windows
 version
 also includes a scheduler for automated downloading of updates, which can
 be
 very useful.
 
 3.1 Windows Version
 When installing the Windows version, you need to make sure that it does
 not
 install the RealTime Protector (their on-access scanner), since it can
 interfere with Declude's operation. To prevent it from installing, do a
 Full
 Install, and unselect the RealTime Protector.
 
 3.2 DOS Version
 When installing the DOS version, you need to make sure to delete the
 F-Prot.PIF file that F-Prot installs (it is installed in the same
 directory
 as F-Prot.EXE). Note that if you are using Windows Explorer and have it
 set
 to hide file extensions, you may need to enable the file extensions in
 order
 to distinguish the F-Prot.PIF from the F-Prot.EXE file.
 
 
 6.4 Virus scanners that delete files
 
 Declude EVA does not officially support virus scanners that scan files as
 they are written to the disk (on access scanners, these are not command
 line virus scanners). This is because we can not be sure exactly when the
 files are scanned, and when it is safe to assume that a file that has not
 been deleted is virus-free. Although they should work, we do not recommend
 using them.
 
 12. Types of Virus Scanners
 There are two main types of virus scanners: on-access scanners, and
 on-demand scanners. Command-line scanners (the type Declude uses) are
 on-demand scanners.
 
 An on-demand scanner is run when the user requests it. It can either be a
 command-line scanner, or a standard Windows program. The command line
 scanner works well with Declude because it can be set to scan specific
 files, and be configured in Declude by adding command line parameters to
 the
 file name.
 
 An on-access scanner scans all files that are written to the hard drive.
 These usually just cause unnecessary overhead when run with Declude, as
 the
 files will end up getting scanned twice.
 
 It is possible to use an on-access scanner with Declude, although it is
 not
 recommended. Once we have done more testing to determine the safety of
 using
 on-access scanners, we may recommend this type of a setup. The problem is
 that Declude has no way of knowing how long to wait to determine if the
 scanner has scanned the file. In most cases, though, this should work.
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:05 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
 
  If ClamWin doesn't do on access scanning and it is the only virus
 scanner
  running on my system, to what can I attribute the errors in this log
  segment?
 
  01/22/2006 00:11:52.187 42470405 Vulnerability flags = 0
  01/22/2006 00:11:52.234 42470405 Error 87 starting scanner
  [C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5
  /NOFLOPPY
  /NOBOOT /DUMB /PACKED /REPORT=report.txt
  c:\SMARTE~1\Spool\proc\work\42470405.vir\]; NOT SCANNING ATTACHMENTS!
  Error
  String: [The parameter is incorrect.]
  01/22/2006 00:11:52.234 42470405 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files were
  deleted.
  You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans the \IMail
  directory or sub-directories.
  01/22/2006 00:11:52.234 42470405 Scanned: Error starting scanner
  01/22/2006 00:12:32.312 42470406 Vulnerability flags = 0
  01/22/2006 00:12:32.343 42470406 Error 87 starting scanner
  [C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5
  /NOFLOPPY
  /NOBOOT /DUMB /PACKED /REPORT=report.txt
  c:\SMARTE~1\Spool\proc\work\42470406.vir\]; NOT SCANNING ATTACHMENTS!
  Error
  String: [The parameter is incorrect.]
  01/22/2006 00:12:32.343 42470406 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files were
  deleted.
  You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans the \IMail
  directory or sub-directories.
  01/22/2006 00:12:32.343 42470406 Scanned: Error starting scanner
  01/22/2006 00:12:42.437 42470407 Vulnerability flags = 0
  01/22/2006 00:12:42.453 42470407 Scanned: Virus Free [Prescan OK][MIME:
 1
  3031]
  01/22/2006 00:12

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers

[Evans Martin]

Ok.  Just purchased it.  Thanks for the info.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:56 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
 
 Evans,
 
 As David just said, you should be using the 32 bit version, not the 16 bit
 version.  It still fits the 'low-budget' criteria.
 
 George
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:39 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
 
  I'm using the old 16-bit DOS version.  It only runs when Declude kicks
 it
  off.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george
   Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:29 PM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
  
   The F-Prot default setup does do on-access scanning.  You should
 either
   disable that which is the recommended Declude method, exclude the
 IMail
   directory and sub-directories from the F-Prot On-access scan.  I've
   enclosed
   excerpts from the Declude EVA Manual for your information.
  
   George
  
   3. F-Prot Help
   If you are using the F-Prot virus scanner, Declude Virus uses the F-
 Prot
   command line scanner, which is included in both their DOS and Windows
   version (the command line scanner in both is identical). The Windows
   version
   also includes a scheduler for automated downloading of updates, which
  can
   be
   very useful.
  
   3.1 Windows Version
   When installing the Windows version, you need to make sure that it
 does
   not
   install the RealTime Protector (their on-access scanner), since it
 can
   interfere with Declude's operation. To prevent it from installing, do
 a
   Full
   Install, and unselect the RealTime Protector.
  
   3.2 DOS Version
   When installing the DOS version, you need to make sure to delete the
   F-Prot.PIF file that F-Prot installs (it is installed in the same
   directory
   as F-Prot.EXE). Note that if you are using Windows Explorer and have
 it
   set
   to hide file extensions, you may need to enable the file extensions in
   order
   to distinguish the F-Prot.PIF from the F-Prot.EXE file.
  
  
   6.4 Virus scanners that delete files
  
   Declude EVA does not officially support virus scanners that scan files
  as
   they are written to the disk (on access scanners, these are not
  command
   line virus scanners). This is because we can not be sure exactly when
  the
   files are scanned, and when it is safe to assume that a file that has
  not
   been deleted is virus-free. Although they should work, we do not
  recommend
   using them.
  
   12. Types of Virus Scanners
   There are two main types of virus scanners: on-access scanners, and
   on-demand scanners. Command-line scanners (the type Declude uses) are
   on-demand scanners.
  
   An on-demand scanner is run when the user requests it. It can either
 be
  a
   command-line scanner, or a standard Windows program. The command line
   scanner works well with Declude because it can be set to scan specific
   files, and be configured in Declude by adding command line parameters
 to
   the
   file name.
  
   An on-access scanner scans all files that are written to the hard
 drive.
   These usually just cause unnecessary overhead when run with Declude,
 as
   the
   files will end up getting scanned twice.
  
   It is possible to use an on-access scanner with Declude, although it
 is
   not
   recommended. Once we have done more testing to determine the safety of
   using
   on-access scanners, we may recommend this type of a setup. The problem
  is
   that Declude has no way of knowing how long to wait to determine if
 the
   scanner has scanned the file. In most cases, though, this should work.
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:05 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
   
If ClamWin doesn't do on access scanning and it is the only virus
   scanner
running on my system, to what can I attribute the errors in this log
segment?
   
01/22/2006 00:11:52.187 42470405 Vulnerability flags = 0
01/22/2006 00:11:52.234 42470405 Error 87 starting scanner
[C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5
/NOFLOPPY
/NOBOOT /DUMB /PACKED /REPORT=report.txt
c:\SMARTE~1\Spool\proc\work\42470405.vir\]; NOT SCANNING
 ATTACHMENTS!
Error
String: [The parameter is incorrect.]
01/22/2006 00:11:52.234 42470405 1 [1 of 2 not deleted

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers

[Evans Martin]

I found something in their FAQ that says just that.  It sure would be useful
if they would allow exclusions.  We need to let them know that as a
community.

Evans Martin


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:47 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
 
 Evans,
 
 You can check the F-Prot documentation, but I don't believe that you can
 selectively turn off On-Access scanning.
 
 George
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:24 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
 
  Is there any way to exclude the mail directories?  I would like to leave
  the
  on access scanner running to watch the rest of the files on the server
 but
  exclude the mail processing directories.  I haven't found a place to
  exclude
  directories yet.
 
  Evans Martin
 
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  iPlus Info Browser - IPB's IMail Migration Tool, password browser,
  reporting
  suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be
  without.  http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george
   Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:29 PM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers
  
   The F-Prot default setup does do on-access scanning.  You should
 either
   disable that which is the recommended Declude method, exclude the
 IMail
   directory and sub-directories from the F-Prot On-access scan.  I've
   enclosed
   excerpts from the Declude EVA Manual for your information.
  
   George
  
   3. F-Prot Help
   If you are using the F-Prot virus scanner, Declude Virus uses the F-
 Prot
   command line scanner, which is included in both their DOS and Windows
   version (the command line scanner in both is identical). The Windows
   version
   also includes a scheduler for automated downloading of updates, which
  can
   be
   very useful.
  
   3.1 Windows Version
   When installing the Windows version, you need to make sure that it
 does
   not
   install the RealTime Protector (their on-access scanner), since it
 can
   interfere with Declude's operation. To prevent it from installing, do
 a
   Full
   Install, and unselect the RealTime Protector.
  
   3.2 DOS Version
   When installing the DOS version, you need to make sure to delete the
   F-Prot.PIF file that F-Prot installs (it is installed in the same
   directory
   as F-Prot.EXE). Note that if you are using Windows Explorer and have
 it
   set
   to hide file extensions, you may need to enable the file extensions in
   order
   to distinguish the F-Prot.PIF from the F-Prot.EXE file.
  
  
   6.4 Virus scanners that delete files
  
   Declude EVA does not officially support virus scanners that scan files
  as
   they are written to the disk (on access scanners, these are not
  command
   line virus scanners). This is because we can not be sure exactly when
  the
   files are scanned, and when it is safe to assume that a file that has
  not
   been deleted is virus-free. Although they should work, we do not
  recommend
   using them.
  
   12. Types of Virus Scanners
   There are two main types of virus scanners: on-access scanners, and
   on-demand scanners. Command-line scanners (the type Declude uses) are
   on-demand scanners.
  
   An on-demand scanner is run when the user requests it. It can either
 be
  a
   command-line scanner, or a standard Windows program. The command line
   scanner works well with Declude because it can be set to scan specific
   files, and be configured in Declude by adding command line parameters
 to
   the
   file name.
  
   An on-access scanner scans all files that are written to the hard
 drive.
   These usually just cause unnecessary overhead when run with Declude,
 as
   the
   files will end up getting scanned twice.
  
   It is possible to use an on-access scanner with Declude, although it
 is
   not
   recommended. Once we have done more testing to determine the safety of
   using
   on-access scanners, we may recommend this type of a setup. The problem
  is
   that Declude has no way of knowing how long to wait to determine if
 the
   scanner has scanned the file. In most cases, though, this should work.
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:05 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus

[Declude.JunkMail] MailPure?

[Evans Martin]

I
went to MailPure.Com to see if they had any new filter files today and noticed
that the link is broken and that their main page is just a logo page without
any links now. Are they still providing filter files?



Evans
Martin







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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MailPure?

[Evans Martin]

I was just wondering where they went. Im still
catching a lot of spam with them. No need to put them back up.



It looks like I need to follow the list more closely. Can
you point me toward your current plug-ins?



Thanks,

Evans Martin







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006
5:43 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
MailPure?





Evans,

I haven't updated these filters in a while, and most of my development has been
in _vbscript_ plug-ins instead of native Declude filters for the past two
years. I recently removed all of the old pages from my site since they
were stagnant. I can put back up some of the filters that I had listed
there if you wish. They are at least educational in terms of what you can
do with Declude's native filtering. Scott Fisher also has a page up that
lists several good resources for filters including some plug-ins. I can't
recall the link though.

Matt



Evans Martin wrote: 

I went to MailPure.Com to see if they had any new filter files today
and noticed that the link is broken and that their main page is just a logo
page without any links now. Are they still providing filter files?



Evans Martin







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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Problems with Comcast and the CBL

[Evans Martin]

This sounds like an awesome idea. If
there is anything that I can do or if you need any programming done to support
it, please dont hesitate to contact me.



Thanks,

Evans Martin







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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006
6:29 PM
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
Problems with Comcast and the CBL





Note: posted to IMail and Declude lists
---

Hi, all-

For those who have been following the Comcast threads, I had Comcast blocking
me also. I met up with a couple of very helpful and courteous people there. The
tech support person who called me back was willing to learn about the problem,
and when I explained about IMail's - what do you call it? - domain spoofing? -
and that it was normal behavior, the fellow whitelisted me permanently without
further effort on my part.

This is the same problem that eventually lists most, if not all, all IMail
servers on the CBL - IMail says it's
mail.whatever_domain_is_trying_to_send.com, and they object to lots of FQDNs
from the same IP.

Because they treated me fair and square, and handled the problem expeditiously,
I am providing the contact method only to those who experience the problem. I
don't want to swamp a good contact with calls and have him become unavailable.

I am thinking about is compiling a list of IMail IPs to send him. If there is
any interest in this, I'd be happy to be the conduit. Don't post your IP's
here, folks, bugt do let me know if you're interested. If there's enough
interest, I will contact him directly and see whether Comcast is willing to get
a large whitelist from me. If so, I will create a web page where you can submit
your IPs, and I will set up a verification mechanism to assure that we don't
allow spammers to post their IPs on that page also.

Unfortunately, even if we do this for Comcast, the CBL folks are categorically
not interested in whitelisting IMail servers preemptively. Therefore, you WILL
lose traffic to those guys, as I did.

-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, Inc.

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Virus Scanning For Your Servers

[Evans Martin]

What
do you guys use for virus protection on your servers? I am trying to use
ClamWin but it is competing with Declude Virus/FProt. I looked for a place to
exclude my mail folders and it doesnt seem to allow directories to be
excluded, only filenames. Im trying to stay open source or really cheap
because of the number of machines that I have and Clam has always worked well
on my X machines.



Thanks,

Evans
Martin







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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway

[Evans Martin]

I felt the same way too, Sandy.  As one who has endured the ire of some on
this list for my occasional and somewhat commercial posts for iPlus Info
Browser, which by the way, is not a competitor in any way to either IMail or
Declude, I feel especially qualified to say, Wow!  That's blatant
commercialism if I have ever seen it!  I'm thinking about taking out a full
page ad now.  LOL!  Just Kidding!

Evans Martin

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman
 Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:35 PM
 To: Brian
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
 
 I  can't  believe  what is apparently permissible on this list. Has no
 one  realized that this product is a commercial competitor to IMail or
 SmarterMail,  with  no  relevance  to Declude? Don't try that mail is
 stopped before Declude has to deal with it attempt at association. It
 is  what  it  is.  A  separate,  commercial  anti-spam gateway with no
 integral link to the now-struggling Declude.
 
 At  least  Len  Conrad's  free  cookbook for IMGate has the exact same
 features as the one he charges $500 to install. That's always been the
 redeeming quality of his plugging model. Guess the game has changed.
 
 For everyone who's silently letting this go: how'd you feel if Vamsoft
 started  advertising  here?  Do you think there aren't other people on
 the list who've kept quiet about similar products and services?
 
 --Sandy
 
 
 
 Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
 Broadleaf Systems, a division of
 Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!
 
 http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/relea
 se/
 
 Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail
 Aliases!
 
 http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/downl
 oad/release/
 
 http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/
 release/
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklisted by Comcast

[Evans Martin]

Can you provide the number that you called to the rest of us poor souls who
are sharing your pain with Comcast?

Thanks,
Evans Martin

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
 Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:08 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklisted by Comcast
 
 Hi Paul-
 
 I responded to that address, but I eventually heard from a human because I
 called their IP allocation department and spoke with a friendly person who
 gave me a number...
 
 Anyway, they have the same objection to IMail that the CBL folks have. The
 server reports its name as mail. followed by whatever domain is sending.
 For those of us hosting hundreds of mail domains, this means that the
 server
 appears to be spoofing a bunch of mail servers while sitting on one IP
 address. That looks like a spammer to the uneducated.
 
 Apparently, IMail is the only mails erver software that has this
 feature.
 
 Comcast and CBL have permanently whitelisted us.
 
 -d
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Navarre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:52 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklisted by Comcast
 
 
   For whatever reason, one of my mail servers has been blacklisted
 by
   Comcast.snip
   Anybody have any deas how to resolve this one?
 
  This just happened to me too.
 
  The answer is in your log files. Comcast inserts a message in the data
  conversation that says to send a message to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] requesting removal from their
  blacklist along with your server's IP address. I was off in their list
 in
  about 5 hours. I wish I could find out *why* I was on their list, but
 I'll
  take what I can get.
 
  Paul Navarre
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue

[Evans Martin]

While we are on the subject of licensing ...

I have JunkMail Pro on which I maintain a current service contract and keep
the version as current as I feel comfortable doing.  I also have Declude
Virus that works perfectly well in whatever version is installed.  I haven't
updated it in forever.

When I purchased my JunkMail service contract, I was informed a few days
later that I would also be required to purchase a Declude Virus contract if
I wanted to maintain my JunkMail service contract.  Barry was nice enough to
make an exception this year but didn't sound like he was eager to continue
this practice.

Do I have to purchase service contracts on both products if I only care
about upgrades on one?  Will I be forced to purchase 2 contracts when my
current one expires, etc.

Thanks,
Evans Martin

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha
 Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:00 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
 
 Don,
 
 Your license to run the software does not expire. What does expire is your
 right to download new updates of the software.
 
 David Franco-Rocha
 Declude Technical / Engineering
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
 
 
  David,
 
  Thanks for the response but I only understand part of your answer.
 
   An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run
 the
   software.
 
  I know when I have an expired license agreement but when does my
 license
 to
  run the software expire?
 
  Don
 
  - Original Message -
  From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
 
 
   An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run
 the
   software. It simply does not allow you to update the software, but you
 can
   continue to run the version you have been running.
  
   David Franco-Rocha
   Declude Technical / Engineering
  
   - Original Message -
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:17 AM
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
  
  
   I too have stayed at the 1.82 version while keeping my service
 contract
   up
   to date.  I am not ambitious enough to work through all the 2.x and
 3.x
   issues.  A heart felt thank you goes out to those of you who are.
  
   With the new licensing policy in 3.x, what happens when I decide not
 to
   renew the service agreement?  Will all the Declude software I have
 stop
   working?  Am I paying for it's usage only while I have a valid
 service
   agreement?  It used to be that the service agreement allowed me major
   version upgrades when they were available without paying an
 additional
   fee.
   Am I now paying for a license to use the software?
  
   Don
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:03 PM
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
  
  
Bottom line is we were told if the license server was offline we
 would
   not
be impacted.  It is seeming now that that statement was not true,
though
   I
should withhold judgement until we hear exactly why this had an
 impact.
Very glad I've stuck with 1.82 at the moment, though we had a
 service
agreement that entitled us to upgrade to 3.x.
   
I would certainly like to know what will be done to the software
   licensing
to make sure this problem does not happen again.  Otherwise, since
 mail
   is
considered a critical system, Declude needs to staff 24/7 to
 address
problems as they arise.
   
Darin.
   
   
- Original Message -
From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
   
   
True, very true. But like Andy or Darrell said, they should have
 done
 a
test
by pulling the plug on their license server during the week when
 they
   were
watching it to see what would happen.
   
But of course, hind sight is always 20/20 and Monday morning
quarterbacking
is highly overrated. ;-)
   
John T
eServices For You
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
Sent

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue

[Evans Martin]

Huh?

I just download the JunkMail installer and run the setup.  I don't have an
option to download Virus when I log in to declude.com.

Evans


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
 Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:55 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
 
 Martin,
 
 How do you update Declude Junkmail without updating declude eva?
 
 Markus
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
  Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:53 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
 
  While we are on the subject of licensing ...
 
  I have JunkMail Pro on which I maintain a current service
  contract and keep the version as current as I feel
  comfortable doing.  I also have Declude Virus that works
  perfectly well in whatever version is installed.  I haven't
  updated it in forever.
 
  When I purchased my JunkMail service contract, I was informed
  a few days later that I would also be required to purchase a
  Declude Virus contract if I wanted to maintain my JunkMail
  service contract.  Barry was nice enough to make an exception
  this year but didn't sound like he was eager to continue this
  practice.
 
  Do I have to purchase service contracts on both products if I
  only care about upgrades on one?  Will I be forced to
  purchase 2 contracts when my current one expires, etc.
 
  Thanks,
  Evans Martin
 
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  PROGRAMMING:  http://www.martekware.com
 
  iPlus Info Browser - IPB's IMail Migration Tool, password
  browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no
  IMail administrator should be without.
  http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha
   Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:00 AM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
  
   Don,
  
   Your license to run the software does not expire. What does
  expire is
   your right to download new updates of the software.
  
   David Franco-Rocha
   Declude Technical / Engineering
  
   - Original Message -
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:13 PM
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
  
  
David,
   
Thanks for the response but I only understand part of your answer.
   
 An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired
  license to
 run
   the
 software.
   
I know when I have an expired license agreement but when does my
   license
   to
run the software expire?
   
Don
   
- Original Message -
From: David Franco-Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
   
   
 An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired
  license to
 run
   the
 software. It simply does not allow you to update the
  software, but
 you
   can
 continue to run the version you have been running.

 David Franco-Rocha
 Declude Technical / Engineering

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue


 I too have stayed at the 1.82 version while keeping my service
   contract
 up
 to date.  I am not ambitious enough to work through
  all the 2.x
 and
   3.x
 issues.  A heart felt thank you goes out to those of
  you who are.

 With the new licensing policy in 3.x, what happens
  when I decide
 not
   to
 renew the service agreement?  Will all the Declude software I
 have
   stop
 working?  Am I paying for it's usage only while I have a valid
   service
 agreement?  It used to be that the service agreement
  allowed me
 major version upgrades when they were available
  without paying an
   additional
 fee.
 Am I now paying for a license to use the software?

 Don

 - Original Message -
 From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue


  Bottom line is we were told if the license server
  was offline
  we
   would
 not
  be impacted.  It is seeming now that that statement was not
  true, though
 I
  should withhold judgement until we hear exactly why
  this had an
   impact.
  Very glad I've stuck with 1.82 at the moment, though we had a
   service
  agreement that entitled us

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue

[Evans Martin]

I LOVE IT!!! Even in this fast paced, 24 hour a day, hard driving, dog-eat-dogarena that we all call work (fun?) there are shining stars of levity (For John T "lightness or fun"). Thanks for the extra smile.Evans Martin. . . I will be happy to elucidate (For John T "To make clear or plain,especially by explanation; clarify.")  From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:08 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware IssueLet's clarify this:DC Wait a minute... it used to be that we could run any version that wasavailable prior to expiration of a service agreement.And you still can.DC Are you saying that has changed, and that we can only install a newerversion if we have an active service agreement?No - Upgrades to the current release are only available to customers tomaintain a current Service AgreementThe two comments above are not mutually exclusiveIf anyone has further questions on this subject please feel free to call meand I will be happy to elucidate (For John T "To make clear or plain,especially by explanation; clarify.")Barry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:41 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware IssueWait a minute... it used to be that we could run any version that wasavailable prior to expiration of a service agreement.Are you saying that has changed, and that we can only install a newerversion if we have an active service agreement?Darin.- Original Message -From: "David Franco-Rocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:50 AMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware IssueAn expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run thesoftware. It simply does not allow you to update the software, but you cancontinue to run the version you have been running.David Franco-RochaDeclude Technical / Engineering- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:17 AMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue I too have stayed at the 1.82 version while keeping my service contract up to date. I am not ambitious enough to work through all the 2.x and 3.x issues. A heart felt thank you goes out to those of you who are. With the new licensing policy in 3.x, what happens when I decide not to renew the service agreement? Will all the Declude software I have stop working? Am I paying for it's usage only while I have a valid service agreement? It used to be that the service agreement allowed me major version upgrades when they were available without paying an additionalfee. Am I now paying for a license to "use" the software? Don - Original Message -  From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:  Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue  Bottom line is we were told if the license server was offline we wouldnot  be impacted. It is seeming now that that statement was not true, thoughI  should withhold judgement until we hear exactly why this had an impact.  Very glad I've stuck with 1.82 at the moment, though we had a service  agreement that entitled us to upgrade to 3.x.   I would certainly like to know what will be done to the softwarelicensing  to make sure this problem does not happen again. Otherwise, since mailis  considered a critical system, Declude needs to staff 24/7 to address  problems as they arise.   Darin.- Original Message -   From: "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  To:   Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:50 PM  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware IssueTrue, very true. But like Andy or Darrell said, they should have done a  test  by pulling the plug on their license server during the week when theywere  watching it to see what would happen.   But of course, hind sight is always 20/20 and Monday morning  quarterbacking  is highly overrated. ;-)   John T  eServices For You   -Original Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown  Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:44 PM  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue   Software and hardware breaks. Nothing is bulletproof. Some are just  better than others.Monday, December 26, 2005, 11:50:20 AM, John T (Lists)  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:  JTL  JTL  JTL  JTL OUCH!  JTL  JTL  JTL  JTL Gee, I thought this is the kind of thing that we were told no way  would happen.  JTL  JTL  JTL  JTL  JTL John T  JTL  JTL eServices For You  JTL  JTL  JTL  JTL  JTL  JTL -Original Message-  JTL From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  JTL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David  Franco-  Rocha  JTL Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:29 AM  JTL To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com  JTL Cc: 

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Blacklisted by Comcast

[Evans Martin]

One
of my IPs has become blacklisted by Comcast and I have sent several
emails to them requesting the offend email(s) so I can cancel the user and asking
to be de-blacklisted to no avail. Does anyone have any experience with getting
off this list? Is there a place I can call who will know anything about email?
Their regular customer support doesnt have a clue what to do with me.



Thanks,

Evans
Martin







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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0

[Evans Martin]

I have started hosting a community
supported SmarterMail list if anyone is interested in joining it. Send a
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe
SmarterMail in the BODY of the message to subscribe. I hate using
their online forum because it doesnt flow as well as a
list does.



The list is pretty low volume at the
moment but questions are getting answered there.



Evans Martin







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert E. Spivack
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005
3:42 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
SmarterMail 3.0





The community support for
SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter).



We are running one SM server for a client
and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not
received any responses at all.



Similar posts to Imail or Declude
discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help.



Obviously the products are different and
the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the
size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we
will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM
 saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we
cant get help one way or another as quickly.



(Needless to say, the SM questions were on
issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when
first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help
from the community)











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Evans Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005
10:48 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
SmarterMail 3.0





Its such a breath of fresh air
having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL!



Evans Martin







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gary Steiner
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005
6:48 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
SmarterMail 3.0





The
following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums:



Q:
When will we expect to see v. 3?

A:
The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is
essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since
mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard
to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We
don't sacrifice stability for a quick release.

Assuming
everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release
will be middle of January.



You
can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0

[Evans Martin]

Its such a breath of fresh air
having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL!



Evans Martin







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gary Steiner
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005
6:48 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
SmarterMail 3.0





The
following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums:



Q:
When will we expect to see v. 3?

A:
The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is
essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since
mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard
to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We
don't sacrifice stability for a quick release.

Assuming
everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release
will be middle of January.



You
can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: COVAD VOIP

[Evans Martin]

I have been using Vonage at home and love it.  I had tried Lingo before
Vonage and HATED it, although I think most of the problems were due to the
D-Link hardware that they supplied.

I have had some experience with Linux based PBX systems and have found them
to be much more cost effective than hardware PBXs.  This along with VoIP
really has the possibility of cutting quite a bit of cost around the office.

Evans Martin

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Catuogno
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:35 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT: COVAD VOIP
 
 I have been considering switching many of our office from POTS lines to
 COVAD voice over IP.  Since this is such a diverse and well informed
 group,
 I was wonder if anyone has any experience with them or suggestions as to
 alternate VOIP providers. Off list replies are welcomed.
 
 Thanks -
 
 Marc
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Autowhitelist not working

[Evans Martin]

What exact version are you running?  SmarterMail or IMail?  We run
SmarterMail now and worked with David on a fix for the AutoWhitelist
problem.  I think it made it into production in 3.0.5.18.

Evans Martin
http://www.martek.net

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:34 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Autowhitelist not working
 
 My Autowhitelist appears to have stopped working. Customers email has
 started to go to the spam folder even though the sending email address is
 in
 their WebMail Contacts List.
 
 I don't know at this point exactly when this problem began, but it is
 recent. I upgraded from 1.82 to 3.0 about 2 weeks ago, but I don't know if
 it's related.
 
 Looking at the logs, it appears the email is being treated as if
 autowtitelist isn't on. I've double checked my global config to ensure it
 is.
 
 Has anyone encountered this before?
 
 Bill G
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Autowhitelist not working

[Evans Martin]

Yeah.  We're hoping to get more features with v3.0.  I hope they live up to
expectations.

Evans Martin
http://www.martek.net

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:08 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Autowhitelist not working
 
 I'm running on IMail 8.12
 
 I've considered SmarterMail but the lack of a mailbox feature to route
 spam
 to individual mailboxes was a dealbreaker. We have too many customers who
 depend on it.
 
 Bill
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Evans Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 1:38 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Autowhitelist not working
 
 
  What exact version are you running?  SmarterMail or IMail?  We run
  SmarterMail now and worked with David on a fix for the AutoWhitelist
  problem.  I think it made it into production in 3.0.5.18.
 
  Evans Martin
  http://www.martek.net
 
  iPlus Info Browser - IPB's IMail Migration Tool, password browser,
  reporting
  suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be
  without.  http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems
  Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:34 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Autowhitelist not working
 
  My Autowhitelist appears to have stopped working. Customers email has
  started to go to the spam folder even though the sending email address
 is
  in
  their WebMail Contacts List.
 
  I don't know at this point exactly when this problem began, but it is
  recent. I upgraded from 1.82 to 3.0 about 2 weeks ago, but I don't know
  if
  it's related.
 
  Looking at the logs, it appears the email is being treated as if
  autowtitelist isn't on. I've double checked my global config to ensure
 it
  is.
 
  Has anyone encountered this before?
 
  Bill G
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] New SmarterMail List

[Evans Martin]

Hey
guys!



I got
really tired of having to log into a web based forum to see what is going on
with SmarterMail so I created a list that I hope we can turn into something
similar to the IMail or Declude user community lists. Who knows, if
enough of us subscribe and start using it, maybe SmarterTools will lose the web
forum and switch to a list format.



If
youre interested in giving this a try shoot an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe
smartermail in the BODY of the message (subject will be ignored).
I miss the knowledgeable user community that IMail was so famous for.
Maybe we can do the same for SmarterMail.



Thanks,

Evans
Martin

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Firewall detecting a Content-Transfer-Encoding error from Yahoo

[Evans Martin]

This exploit appears to be unique to SendMail.  I would probably allow it
and let Declude categorize it.  What do you guys think?

Evans Martin
http://www.martekware.com
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 1:34 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Firewall detecting a Content-Transfer-
 Encoding error from Yahoo
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a SonicWALL firewall in front of my mail server. It has its
 Intrusion Protection Service turned on. Now I am getting an alert from
 the firewall:
 
 11/05/2005 01:11:19.416 - Alert - Intrusion Prevention -  IPS
 Prevention Alert: SMTP Content-Transfer-Encoding overflow attempt, SID:
 743, Priority: Medium - 209.191.68.173,
 
 Which points to:
 
 209.191.68.173 PTR record: web34809.mail.mud.yahoo.com.
 
 And when I look up the SMTP error this is what it says
 
 The prescan() function in the address parser (parseaddr.c) in Sendmail
 before 8.12.9 does not properly handle certain conversions from char and
 int types, which can cause a length check to be disabled when Sendmail
 misinterprets an input value as a special NOCHAR control value,
 allowing attackers to cause a denial of service and possibly execute
 arbitrary code via a buffer overflow attack using messages, a different
 vulnerability than CAN-2002-1337.
 
 References
 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0161
 http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-12.html
 
 
 Since the firewall rejects it at the perimeter it never makes it to
 IMail/Declude.
 
 Obviously some piece of mail is trying to come in and failing. Does
 anyone else have any experience about this type of a problem? I can just
 ignore it and it will finally go away but I am sort of surprised that a
 Yahoo mail server would have this vulnerability when there is a patch
 for it.
 
 Any thoughts on this?
 
 Thanks
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 Omega Network Solutions
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Mailing List Software

[Evans Martin]

Check out our software, iPlus Info Browser.  It creates users.lst and
users.txt for use with the IMail list server.  It creates a global set of
files that contains every user on your system and a per domain set of files
that contains only the users for that domain.  

It is very flexible too because it allows you to filter addresses that you
don't want added as well as allowing you to add addresses that are not
controlled by you.  Best of all, it can be scheduled to run daily, thus
keeping your lists always up to date.

Here's a link.  If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact
me.

http://www.martekware.com - The product you're looking for is IPB v4.5 in
either the standard or professional version (unless you have only a single
domain . . . we offer a free product for a single domain).

Thanks,
Evans Martin
MartekWare.Com

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Hentschel
 Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:16 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Mailing List Software
 
 Does anyone use or know of some software to send out emails to a customer
 base that works with IMail? We want to send out occasional emails to a
 portion of our customers while protecting everyone's email from each
 other,
 checking for bad emails etc.
 
 Thanks,
 Karl
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] IMail Admin Utility - New Version Available

[Evans Martin]

Hello
to all of our long time friends on the Declude list! 



We
have updated our migration and reports suite and have changed our licensing
scheme. If you have only one domain, were offering the equivalent of
our new professional package to you for free! Come download a demo and check
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IMT is the ultimate tool for extracting information out
of the IMail user base. The info extracted can be used to populate ISP
accounting software, create import files for other applications or as a
migration tool for moving user info (including decrypted passwords) to a new
mail server platform. 



Password Browser



Every NOC needs our menu driven password lookup tool. It
provides fast access for NOC personnel to look up user passwords. It is also
the user interface that allows you to decide which addresses are exported and
which are filtered from export by our report tools.



IMail Reporting Suite 



NOTE: Two versions of each
report are created. One holds information for all domains and usually has
global in the name. The other is the same report but limited to
only a single domains data. Global reports are placed in the root
output directory. Domain reports are placed in the subdirectory for that
domain.




Overview Report - Server overview with decrypted passwords 
Includes a list of all domains and user counts per domain. All users
associated with each domain. All aliases associated with each domain and their
target addresses. All domain administrators are identified and all passwords
are decrypted.


ListServer Report  Two files (Users.Lst 
Users.Txt) are created for each domain as well as two additional files that
contain all users on all domains. These files are the format that is used by
IMails list server and can be dropped into list directories. This is a
great report to include in a nightly batch. We keep our all user announce
lists up to date with it.


AddUser Report  A file is created for each domain that is
suitable for use with the IMail AddUser.Exe utility. These files can be used
to duplicate users on another server, as an additional form of backup or to
make bulk changes easier to script.


Address Book Report  This report creates two IMail address book
files. The global report contains all IMail users and the per domain reports
contain all users for each domain. These files are the format that is used by
IMail for its address books and can be drop in replacements for those files.


POSTFIX Reports - This report creates a list of domains in the format
that POSTFIX uses. It also creates a POSTFIX SASL file for protection against
dictionary attacks.


NOBODY Alias Audit  This report scans all of your domains for
NOBODY Aliases and lets you know which domains are setup to accept every
message that hits them, thus bringing your server to its knees. We consider
this a VERY USEFUL report.


MS OUTLOOK Report  This report creates a .CSV file that includes
a list of usernames along with their email addresses and is suitable for
importing into MS Outlook.



PLEASE NOTE: This program will only work if you are using the
IMail user base (Windows Registry). It will not work if you are using the Windows
user base or an external database. MartekWare.Com can develop custom tools for
you if you are using an external database.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail v8

[Evans Martin]

ping

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Sullivan
 Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:49 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail v8
 
 I haven't seen anything from the list since mid day friday.  I want to
 make
 sure I was still on it and it was working :)
 
 I actually like this list, lol - weird huh?
 
 Travis
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude with SmarterMail 3.0

[Evans Martin]

I recently asked a question on one of the public forums regarding why the
server identified itself as the primary IP address assigned to the box
instead of the IP of the domain sending the email and received the same kind
of response.  We may be reconsidering our choice of mail servers soon too if
this kind of behavior keeps up.

Evans Martin
Martek.Net

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
 Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 12:15 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude with SmarterMail 3.0
 
 I called smartertools last week to tell them that we needed submission
 port
 587 support in  version 3 and that we also need the listserver to have
 the
 ability to put the subscribers email address in the footer so that we can
 identify AOLers who report list email as spam.
 
 The guy on the phone was very rude and would not hardly let me explain to
 him what we needed in the new version and why it is important.
 
 I ended up having to send them an email explaining our needs.  But I would
 not hold my breath if you think they are listening to their customers
 desires or if there is a feature you are waiting on.  I own smartermail
 and
 smarterstats and after my experience speaking with smartertools I am not
 impressed with the company.
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IMail Admin
  Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:25 AM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude with SmarterMail 3.0
 
  yes, but I've been waiting all year for SM 3.0, with no end in site.
 
  Ben
  - Original Message -
  From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:02 AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude with SmarterMail 3.0
 
 
   Nice to know!
   Now it's time to set up the new mailserver  ;-)
  
   Markus
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
   David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
   Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:32 PM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude with SmarterMail 3.0
  
   The 3.0 version of SmarterMail, yet to be released, will pass
   authentication information to Declude. For those of you who
   have been patiently waiting to implement WHITELIST AUTH with
   SmarterMail, please be advised that Declude will support that
   functionality with SmarterMail 3.0.
  
   David Franco-Rocha
   Declude Technical / Engineering
  
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Blacklisted by Comcast

[Evans Martin]

In the process of preparing to switch from IMail to SmarterMail we had a server with an out of the box SmarterMail install on it for a few days and got blacklisted by Comcast for being an open relay. Everything has been corrected now and we have sent multiple emails to Comcast advising them of the corrections and asking for a retest and to be removed from the blacklist but to no avail. Has anyone run this gauntlet before? Any pointers, contact numbers, etc. that we might be able to use to speed things along? Our customers are getting restless.Thanks,Evans Martin

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: New DNS Server

[Evans Martin]

Awesome. Thank you for the info.













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005
7:47 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: New DNS Server





I have done this in two ways. You can export the
registry and then use an editorthat can handle line breaks and other
control characters(such as MS Words) to massage the text file before
reimporting it on the new server.



Or, you can create a list of domains (using the DNS command
line tools) and then use a little .CMD procedure to create the secondary domain
for all these domain names. Here is a sample batch script (mm.mm.mm.mm is the
IP of your primary DNS server, nn.nn.nn.nn are the IP addresses of other
subordinate DNS servers to which you permit zone transfers)



@ECHO OFF
if %1.==. goto error01







@ECHO ON
DNSCMD \\YOURSERVER /ZoneAdd %1 /Secondary
mm.mm.mm.mm /file %1.dns
DNSCMD \\YOURSERVER /ZoneResetSecondaries %1
/SecureList nn.nn.nn.nn nn.nn.nn.nn
@ECHO OFF







:Done
GOTO :EOF







:error01
ECHO.
ECHO Missing Parameters!
ECHO.
ECHO Syntax: CreateSecondary domainname 
ECHO Example: CreateSecondary MyDomain.com 
PAUSE Missing Parameters
GOTO :EOF 













Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax: +1 201 934-9206 















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005
01:14 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT:
New DNS Server

Im
running Windows 2003 and MS DNS on my primary name server. Now I need to
slave another server to it. What is the quickest way to transfer all of
the domains from my old server to my new one and change them all from master to
slave zones?



Thanks,

Evans
Martin



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: New DNS Server

[Evans Martin]

Wow! You rock. Nice script. Thanks!













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005
2:21 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: New DNS Server







Hi Evans-











I have a working script you can grab at http://skywaves.net/utils/dns_autosecondary.txt.
Change a couple of vairables, save it, call it from the task scheduler, and you're
done. Instructions are included.











All are welcome to use it. 











-DaveDoherty





Skywaves, Inc.



















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Original Message - 





From: Evans Martin 





To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 





Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:14 AM





Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: New DNS Server









Im
running Windows 2003 and MS DNS on my primary name server. Now I need to
slave another server to it. What is the quickest way to transfer all of
the domains from my old server to my new one and change them all from master to
slave zones?



Thanks,

Evans
Martin



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wondering about Declude 3.x

[Evans Martin]

I am and the only problem that I am seeing so far is that the autowhitelist
feature doesn't seem to be working for us.  I'm still experimenting though.
Otherwise, it has been a flawless transition from IMail to SmarterMail.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:22 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wondering about Declude 3.x
 
 Is anyone running Delude 3.X on a smartermail installation?  Any problems
 with it?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
  Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:58 AM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wondering about Declude 3.x
 
  We are running Declude 3.0.5.5 on a dual processor Xeon with no
 issues
 
 
  Sincerely,
 
  Randy Armbrecht
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-346-5300 x112
  877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
  http://globalweb.net
 
  Richmond's Internet Source since 1996!
  WEB HOSTING including EMAIL beginning at $29/month!
  DSL Starting at $39.95/month!
  Non-Profits - receive a 25% discount on most services!
 
  Global Web Solutions is a registered trademark of Global Web
 Solutions,
  Inc., Glen Allen, VA
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:44 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Wondering about Declude 3.x
 
  Since things have been quite for some time, I just wanted to check up on
  what is happening with 3.x.  The last that I heard, there were several
  people having issues with multi-processor systems.  The thread settings
  also
  concern me in the way that they are being implemented.  It appears from
  reports that these can greatly affect the performance of a system (and
  therefore it's stability/ability), and knowing how variable E-mail can
 be,
  I'm not sure that this is something that I would want to have hard coded
  on
  my system.  I would hope that there would be another way to go about
 this.
 
  Right now I'm on 2.0.6.16 and have been for some time, but as bugs
 arise,
  and bug fixes are released, I would like to have the peace of mind to
  upgrade to the latest code, but I'm not sure that I have that yet.
 
  I know that the folks at Declude have been working long and hard at this
  for
  sometime now, and I don't want to disrespect that hard work, but I would
  appreciate an update on where things are, and where they are going as
 far
  as
  the service issues go.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Matt
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: New DNS Server

[Evans Martin]

Im
running Windows 2003 and MS DNS on my primary name server. Now I need to slave
another server to it. What is the quickest way to transfer all of the domains
from my old server to my new one and change them all from master to slave
zones?



Thanks,

Evans
Martin



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[Declude.JunkMail] Free IMail Admin Utility - Password Decryption Reporting

[Evans Martin]

Hello
everyone. I just wanted to let everyone know that MartekWare.Com has decided
to release a free version of our popular IPlus Info Browser utility for IMail.
It is completely unlimited for up to one domain and will decrypt passwords for
all domains via the user interface (but not on reports). Sign into our website
(http://www.martekware.com) and you
can download it for free. Thanks for letting us give back to the IMail user
community in some small way. I hope you enjoy!



If
you need to run reports on multiple domains, there is a single server license
available and a site license also. 



Heres
a little blurb for those who are not familiar with IPB.

Could you use a utility that allows you to
quickly do the following tasks:

 1.)
Quickly lookup forgotten passwords for your IMail users.
-
NEW faster, more accurate password decryption routines

 2.) Produce
reports for all of your IMail domains
-
List of domains with # of users per domain
-
List of users sorted by domain
-
Decrypted password for all users
-
NEW Alias support

 3.) Create
USERS.LST and USERS.TXT files
-
Perfect for sending mail to all of your users
-
Just create a list and drop in these files and you're in business.
-
No more mailall.exe hassles
-
Allows you to edit the lists before sending mail
-
NEW Includes list allows you to automatically addexternal email 

addresses to your mailings
-
NEW Excludes list allows you to filter addresses fromyour mailings
-
NEW Alias support

 4.) Create
DOMAIN.XXX_ADDUSER.TXT files
-
File formatted for use with Imail's ADDUSER.EXE utility
-
Allows you to quickly add users back to server in theevent of a crash.
-
Effectively serves as a backup of all of your user accounts
-
Makes moving from one server to another much easier
-
NEW Alias support

 5.) Create
DOMAIN.XXX_OUTLOOK.CSV files (Registered only)
-
File is suitable for importing into a Microsoft Outlook address book
-
NEW Alias support

 6.) Postfix
Support
-
Creates files that make interfacing with ormigrating to Postfix 

easier than ever
-
Combined with our automation friendly interface, youcan 

keep Postfix up to date easily and efficiently.



Thanks,

Evans
Martin

Martekware.Com

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: iMail password utility

[Evans Martin]

IPlus Info Browser by Martekware?  http://www.martekware.com



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rapaport
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:06 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: iMail password utility
 
 I used to use a utility that would extract imail user names and decrypt
 passwords from the registry, but I seem to have misplaced it somewhere on
 some machine, and I don't even remember the name of it.
 
 If someone could jog my memory, I'd appreciate it.
 
 Feel free to contact me off list
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Switched to SmarterMail

[Evans Martin]

Well, we finally bit the bullet and switched to SmarterMail. Everything seems to be working great and my customers love the new interface. However, they are missing the auto whitelisting of their address books. Is this feature an IMail only feature? Is there any way to duplicate this functionality in SmarterMail?Thanks,Evans Martin

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: iMail password utility

[Evans Martin]

I can adapt IPB code to work on a command line if there is enough interest.

Evans Martin
http://www.martekware.com



 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Shubert
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 4:10 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: iMail password utility
 
 I didn't even think this was possible. Does anyone know of a command line
 utility that does this?
 
 Robert
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rapaport
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:30 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: iMail password utility
 
 At 08:53 AM 10/17/2005, you wrote:
 IPlus Info Browser by Martekware?  http://www.martekware.com
 I think that was it, but so far I can't find it (had it on an server that
 I
 subsequently upgraded)
 
 I use
 
 http://croftssoftware.com/downloads/Decode_IMail_Users_Password_Setup.exe
 
 Well that will do the trick.
 
 Thanks everyone!
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamheaders

[Evans Martin]

Not all of us chose to run a current version of IMail$$$.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists)
 Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:57 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamheaders
 
 Who cares if the client is authenticating and you are whitelisting
 authentication?
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Sullivan
  Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:45 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamheaders
 
  I understand that, but we don't have control over norton antivirus's
 method
  of scanning outgoing email.  Also note the emails also fail the test
  cmdspace  (space in receipt to command).
 
 
 
   Users/clients sending e-mail out should be authenticating and
   authentication
   should be whitelisted hence the test does not matter.
  
   As for receiving, find out what the common string is that is used in
 the
   headers and add that to your whitelisting file giving credit for the
 same
   amount as the spamheaders test.
  
   John T
   eServices For You
 
 
   Anyone using norton av 2005 with outlook express with outgoing mail
   scanning
   enabled will trip the spamheaders test.  I just thought everyone
 should
   know.  I guess that just about obsoletes this test now?
  
   I am using declude 1.81
  
   Travis
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack

[Evans Martin]

IPB v4.0 will produce a report of nobody aliases on all of your domains.

http://www.martekware.com/ipb

Evans Martin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Farris
 Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:46 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack
 
 Can you give me instructions on finding the nobody aliases..
 
 Richard Farris
 Ethixs Online
 1.270.247. Office
 1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
 Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 9:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack
 
 
  Hi Richard-
 
  Hijack is for outbound mail from your IMail server. It prevents your
 users
  from sending too many outbound messages. It works really well for that,
  but I do not know of any function in Hijack that looks at inbound mail
  volume by IP. That is a very good idea, though!
 
  As for your server being overtaxed, the quickest fix may be to search
 for
  a delete nobody aliases, If you are under a dictionary attack, you may
  be asked Declude to process thousands of messages an hour, if not a
  minute! If you have a lot of domains and you are familiar with the
 Windows
  registry, you can find and delete nodoby aliases easily with a registry
  search.
 
  -Dave
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 6:40 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack
 
 
  Can I use my Hijack to watch where email is coming from in real time
 and
  make adjustments to delete certain IPs if I see several being deleted
  from that IP...as long as I have checked out the IP first in
 arin.net...I
  want to delete the IP in Imail so the Declude don't have to look at
  itmy server is really being taxed at certain times of the day..
 
  Richard Farris
  Ethixs Online
  1.270.247. Office
  1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
  Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: IPlus Info Browser Codebase For Sale

[Evans Martin]

I am
considering selling the rights and source code for IPlus Info Browser. If
you are interested in possibly purchasing the source code to this successful
suite of utilities for IMail, please contact me off list to discuss further.



If
you are not familiar with this popular tool, you can read more about it at http://www.martekware.com/ipb.



Im
extending this offer to the IMail/Declude user/professional community first
because there are still many of you who are using this product and I would like
to see it continue on. I am finding it hard to justify the purchase of
new IMail licenses to maintain our test servers and have no desire to upgrade
to the collaboration suite.



In
addition to the obvious, the Visual Basic source code contains an IMail password
decryption class library that would be suitable for marketing as a stand alone
programmers tool. It also contains code that allows you to easily
pull information from the IMail registry hive and present it as useful text
reports.



Thank
You,

Evans
Martin

Martekware.Com

615-533-0197

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

[Evans Martin]

If you are running IMail and are using the
registry, as opposed to an external database or windows user base, IPlus Info
Browser will create this list for you. It can be scheduled to run
periodically so your list stays up to date. You can download a demo at http://www.martekware.com/ipb.



Evans Martin













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005
4:10 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Spam box





I have a question about these boxes that
go in front of Declude, be they IMGATE or ORF or whatever.



The way that I understand it from reading
the threads here is that these front end boxes require the complete list of valid
e-mail addresses for all domains that are being processed. Is that correct?



If that is correct, then perhaps someone
who is gatewaying mail to clients could answer this. How do you get all the
e-mail addresses on the front end box and how do you keep it updated? 



I am doing gatewaying to various Exchange
and other hosting providers and do not host any mail on my site. So am I
correct in assuming that this solution will not work in my setup?



Thanx








Goran Jovanovic


The LAN Shoppe

















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005
1:43 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Spam box






Richard Farris wrote: 



Is there a box I can put in front of my Imail server
that will help take some of the load off of the spam filtering that Declude is
doing



Hi Richard - 

One method is to put ORF in front of your IMail box and via its recipients
blacklist feature refuse all mail that does not have a legit address on the
imail box. It has really helped me kill huge dictionary attacks - like in the
magnitude of 2 mill a day ..

-Nick










Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Trouble with HotMail

[Evans Martin]

One
of my domains is having trouble sending email to HotMail. I have a reverse
record and spf record setup for the offending domain. Do you guys know what HotMails
requirements are of if they have a test page available like AOLs?



Thanks,

Evans
Martin

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Trouble with HotMail

[Evans Martin]

Strange. Im showing all pass
on dnsreport.com. Ill keep troubleshooting.



Thanks,

Evans Martin













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ncl Admin
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005
1:40 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: Trouble with HotMail





http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=martek.net

Fix all of your problems.

Your Nameservers aren't working.



At 01:24 PM 8/3/2005 -0500, you wrote: 



One of my domains is having trouble sending email to HotMail. I have a reverse
record and spf record setup for the offending domain. Do you guys know what
HotMails requirements are of if they have a test page available like AOLs?



Thanks,

Evans Martin




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Trouble with HotMail

[Evans Martin]

Thank you.













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Behalf Of Rick Baranowski
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005
3:17 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: Trouble with HotMail





We have been seeing this since last week.
Two out of the four ip addresses listed for each MX host for hotmail do not
respond. I have tried pinging and telnet to port 25 by ip addresses.



See what ip is cached for hotmail for you
and try to telnet by some of the other ip address.



Rick











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005
12:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: Trouble with HotMail





ns2.martek.net isn't responding appropriately. I
get recvfrom error 10054 when querying it directly for your MX
records.

Matt



Evans Martin wrote: 

Strange. Im showing all pass
on dnsreport.com. Ill keep troubleshooting.



Thanks,

Evans Martin













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Ncl Admin
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005
1:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
OT: Trouble with HotMail





http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=martek.net

Fix all of your problems.

Your Nameservers aren't working.



At 01:24 PM 8/3/2005 -0500, you wrote: 



One of my domains is having trouble sending email to HotMail. I have a reverse
record and spf record setup for the offending domain. Do you guys know what
HotMails requirements are of if they have a test page available like AOLs?



Thanks,

Evans Martin




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...

[Evans Martin]

I did the same.  There is definitely an issue with 2.0.6.16.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hardrick
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:43 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...
 
 I dropped back to an older version and within an hour my queueoverflow
 went from 42000+ to 25 (that's twenty-five) emails.  Mail from gmail,
 yahoo,
 msn, and the rest of the world now gets processed in a matter of seconds
 rather then hours.  I did not have to reboot the server.  I checked our
 DNS servers and they are running fine.  I'm sure our dial-up/DSL/Wireless
 and T1 customers would have notified us right away if they had an issue
 with not resolving.  I can probably reproduce the issue, but since it's a
 production machine that might be a bad idea.
 
 Tks for everyone's help.
 
 --Mike
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael L.
 Hardrick
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 16:58
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Very slow Queue times...
 
 Is there any reason the Queue times would be over three hours?
 The Queue is backed up to over 2+ and the overflow directory has
 19000+
 as well.  It's taking about four hours to deliver mail to and from our
 server even on local accounts.  I've checked the CPU usage and rebooted
 the
 machine twice.  We are using 2.0.6.16.
 Dual CPU 2800
 2GB RAM
 SATA 10k Drives
 Plenty of disk space and RAM left.
 CPU Usage is about 40%
 There are about 25 to 35 Declude processes running at any given time.
 Nothing has changed in our config in about three weeks.
 This just started about 40 hours ago.
 
 Tks,
 --Mike
 TNWEB
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r rhsbl tests not catching spam

[Evans Martin]

Bad DNS server will do it every time. Thanks for your
insight.



Evans





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([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:47
PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
ip4r  rhsbl tests not catching spam





Evan,











Is
your DNS server responding to these queries? One thing to verify is turn
your log level to debug for a few minutes and see what the output of the
queries are.











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From: Evans Martin 





To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 





Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 1:42 PM





Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r  rhsbl tests not
catching spam









None of
my ip4r or rhsbl tests are catching any spam since I switched to the latest
global.cfg file distributed with v2.0.6 of Declude Junkmail Pro. Can
anyone give me any suggestions as to what I can do to test or attempt to
correct this?



Thanks,

Evans
Martin





#=
RBL IP4R TESTS ==

# 1.
Definitions of the tests to use (do not edit unless you know what you are
doing). These must come before the actions.

# 2. First
is the name of the check, then the type of check (ip4r is a DNS lookup using
the reverse of the IP address).

# 3.
For type ip4r, 'matchstring' is the string to look for, or * for
anything.



AHBL
ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org
*
6 0

BLITZEDALL
ip4r
opm.blitzed.org
*
7 0

CBL
ip4r cbl.abuseat.org
127.0.0.2
6 0

DSBL
ip4r
list.dsbl.org
*
6 0

MXRATE-BLOCK
ip4r
pub.mxrate.net
127.0.0.2
7 0

MXRATE-SUSPICIOUS
ip4r
pub.mxrate.net
127.0.0.4
2 0

ORDB
ip4r
relays.ordb.org
*
5 0

SBL
ip4r  sbl.spamhaus.org
*
7 0

SORBS-HTTP
ip4r
dnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.2
5 0

SORBS-SOCKS
ip4r
dnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.3
5 0

SORBS-MISC
ip4r
dnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.4
5 0

SORBS-SMTP
ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.5
5 0

SORBS-SPAM
ip4r
dnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.6
4 0

SORBS-WEB
ip4r
dnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.7
5 0

SORBS-BLOCK
ip4r
dnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.8
5 0

SORBS-ZOMBIE
ip4r
dnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.9
5 0

SORBS-DUHL
ip4r
dnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.10
4 0

SPAMCOP
ip4r bl.spamcop.net
127.0.0.2
7 0



BONDEDSENDER
ip4r
query.bondedsender.org
127.0.0.10
-10 0

MXRATE-ALLOW
ip4r
pub.mxrate.net
127.0.0.3
-3 0



#=ADDITIONAL
USED RBL IP4R TESTS=



MTLDB
ip4r
mtldb.declude.com
127.0.0.2
3 0

INTERSIL
ip4r
blackholes.intersil.net
127.0.0.2
5 0

CSMA-SBL
ip4r
sbl.csma.biz
127.0.0.2
5 0 

SPAMBAG
ip4r blacklist.spambag.org
127.0.0.2
4 0

FIVETENSRC
ip4r blackholes.five-ten-sg.com
127.0.0.2
4 0

JAMMDNSBL
ip4r
dnsbl.jammconsulting.com
127.0.0.2
4 0 



#=
RHBSL TESTS ==



DSN
rhsbl
dsn.rfc-ignorant.org
127.0.0.2
3 0

NOABUSE
rhsbl abuse.rfc-ignorant.org
127.0.0.4
2 0

NOPOSTMASTER
rhsbl
postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org
127.0.0.3
1 0



MAILPOLICE-BULK
rhsbl bulk.rhs.mailpolice.com

127.0.0.2 
6 0

MAILPOLICE-PORN
rhsbl porn.rhs.mailpolice.com

127.0.0.2  7
 0

MAILPOLICE-FRAUD
rhsbl fraud.rhs.mailpolice.com

127.0.0.2  6
 0

[Declude.JunkMail] ip4r rhsbl tests not catching spam

[Evans Martin]

None
of my ip4r or rhsbl tests are catching any spam since I switched to the latest
global.cfg file distributed with v2.0.6 of Declude Junkmail Pro. Can anyone
give me any suggestions as to what I can do to test or attempt to correct this?



Thanks,

Evans
Martin





#=
RBL IP4R TESTS ==

# 1.
Definitions of the tests to use (do not edit unless you know what you are
doing). These must come before the actions.

# 2.
First is the name of the check, then the type of check (ip4r is a DNS lookup
using the reverse of the IP address).

# 3.
For type ip4r, 'matchstring' is the string to look for, or * for
anything.



AHBL ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org * 6 0

BLITZEDALL ip4r opm.blitzed.org * 7 0

CBL ip4r cbl.abuseat.org 127.0.0.2 6 0

DSBL ip4r list.dsbl.org * 6 0

MXRATE-BLOCK ip4r pub.mxrate.net 127.0.0.2 7 0

MXRATE-SUSPICIOUS ip4r pub.mxrate.net 127.0.0.4 2 0

ORDB ip4r relays.ordb.org * 5 0

SBL ip4r
 sbl.spamhaus.org * 7 0

SORBS-HTTP ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.2 5 0

SORBS-SOCKS ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.3 5 0

SORBS-MISC ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.4 5 0

SORBS-SMTP ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.5 5 0

SORBS-SPAM ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.6 4 0

SORBS-WEB ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.7 5 0

SORBS-BLOCK ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.8 5 0

SORBS-ZOMBIE ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.9 5 0

SORBS-DUHL ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.10 4 0

SPAMCOP ip4r bl.spamcop.net 127.0.0.2 7 0



BONDEDSENDER ip4r query.bondedsender.org 127.0.0.10 -10 0

MXRATE-ALLOW ip4r pub.mxrate.net 127.0.0.3 -3 0



#=ADDITIONAL
USED RBL IP4R TESTS=



MTLDB ip4r mtldb.declude.com 127.0.0.2 3 0

INTERSIL ip4r blackholes.intersil.net 127.0.0.2 5 0

CSMA-SBL ip4r sbl.csma.biz 127.0.0.2 5 0


SPAMBAG ip4r blacklist.spambag.org 127.0.0.2 4 0

FIVETENSRC ip4r blackholes.five-ten-sg.com 127.0.0.2 4 0

JAMMDNSBL ip4r dnsbl.jammconsulting.com 127.0.0.2 4 0




#=
RHBSL TESTS ==



DSN rhsbl dsn.rfc-ignorant.org 127.0.0.2 3 0

NOABUSE rhsbl abuse.rfc-ignorant.org 127.0.0.4 2 0

NOPOSTMASTER rhsbl postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org 127.0.0.3 1 0



MAILPOLICE-BULK rhsbl
bulk.rhs.mailpolice.com  127.0.0.2  6 0

MAILPOLICE-PORN rhsbl
porn.rhs.mailpolice.com  127.0.0.2  7  0

MAILPOLICE-FRAUD rhsbl
fraud.rhs.mailpolice.com  127.0.0.2  6  0

[Declude.JunkMail] DNS Tests?

[Evans Martin]

After
upgrading and implementing the slightly modified global.cfg file that comes
with the latest distribution, my non-local dns related tests dont seem
to be working anymore. Im still tagging spam but Im only seeing
weight being added from the locally performed tests. Is there something that
would break the old non-local tests from working?



Thanks,

Evans
Martin

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning

[Evans Martin]

That would be awesome.  We're planning a switch to SmarterMail soon so it
may be a non issue in the near future if they implement it.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:48 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
 Evans,
 
 We have this on a list of possible enhancements for the very near future.
 It
 would, however, be a global setting that applies to the entire server:
 scanning inbound only, outbound only or both.
 
 David Franco-Rocha
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Evans Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:11 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
 
 Because I'm running 7.15 of IMail.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:57 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
  If you have Pro, why don't you turn AUTOWHITELIST ON?  That way anyone
 who
  authenticates is whitelisted.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Evans Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
 
  I'm talking about Junkmail; not Virus.  I'm marking my own outbound mail
  as
  spam in a lot of cases.  I want to disable this behavior.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
   Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:13 PM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
  
   I think you're looking for virus_domains.txt - it has inbound only,
   outbound only, both, etc options.
  
   Jonathan
  
  
   Evans Martin wrote:
  
   So there is no way to turn off outbound scanning?
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
   Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:41 PM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
   
   Then they need to auth to the server. You need 8.x to be able to
 have
   declude
   know if the user has authed just set WHITELIST AUTH in yor
   
   
   global.cfg
   
   
   Kevin Bilbee
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Evans
 Martin
   Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:24 PM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
   
   
   I am trying to disable outbound scanning of my domains.  I
   commented everything out in the slightly modified from default
   global.cfg that came after the outbound section using a # but it
   still seems to be scanning outbound.
   
   I am using per domain configs but I don't see where Declude is
   being instructed to scan outbound.  Many of my users are
   complaining because their mail goes out tagged as spam.  Help!
   
   Thanks,
   Evans Martin
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[Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning

[Evans Martin]

I am trying to disable outbound scanning of my domains.  I commented everything 
out in the slightly modified from default global.cfg that came after the 
outbound section using a # but it still seems to be scanning outbound.

I am using per domain configs but I don't see where Declude is being instructed 
to scan outbound.  Many of my users are complaining because their mail goes out 
tagged as spam.  Help!

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning

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So there is no way to turn off outbound scanning?

 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
 Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:41 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
 Then they need to auth to the server. You need 8.x to be able to have
 declude
 know if the user has authed just set WHITELISTAUTH in yor
global.cfg
 
 
 Kevin Bilbee
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:24 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
 
  I am trying to disable outbound scanning of my domains.  I
  commented everything out in the slightly modified from default
  global.cfg that came after the outbound section using a # but it
  still seems to be scanning outbound.
 
  I am using per domain configs but I don't see where Declude is
  being instructed to scan outbound.  Many of my users are
  complaining because their mail goes out tagged as spam.  Help!
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning

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I turned them all off.  Is there a directive that I am missing?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:11 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
 Outbound scanning is controlled by Global.cfg. So you would need to set
 actions there.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:41 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
  So there is no way to turn off outbound scanning?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
   Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:41 PM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
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   Then they need to auth to the server. You need 8.x to be able to have
   declude
   know if the user has authed just set WHITELISTAUTH in yor
  global.cfg
  
  
   Kevin Bilbee
  
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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:24 PM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
   
   
I am trying to disable outbound scanning of my domains.  I
commented everything out in the slightly modified from default
global.cfg that came after the outbound section using a # but it
still seems to be scanning outbound.
   
I am using per domain configs but I don't see where Declude is
being instructed to scan outbound.  Many of my users are
complaining because their mail goes out tagged as spam.  Help!
   
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning

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I'm talking about Junkmail; not Virus.  I'm marking my own outbound mail as
spam in a lot of cases.  I want to disable this behavior.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
 Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:13 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
 I think you're looking for virus_domains.txt - it has inbound only,
 outbound only, both, etc options.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 Evans Martin wrote:
 
 So there is no way to turn off outbound scanning?
 
 
 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
 Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:41 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
 Then they need to auth to the server. You need 8.x to be able to have
 declude
 know if the user has authed just set WHITELIST  AUTH in yor
 
 
 global.cfg
 
 
 Kevin Bilbee
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Evans Martin
 Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:24 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound Scanning
 
 
 I am trying to disable outbound scanning of my domains.  I
 commented everything out in the slightly modified from default
 global.cfg that came after the outbound section using a # but it
 still seems to be scanning outbound.
 
 I am using per domain configs but I don't see where Declude is
 being instructed to scan outbound.  Many of my users are
 complaining because their mail goes out tagged as spam.  Help!
 
 Thanks,
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: MS-Exchange, Store and Forward and Declude

[Evans Martin]

Sorry for the OT but it somewhat relates to this issue.

I have a customer that we have been hosting mail for who has set up their
own Exchange server.  They asked me to point their MX record at their
exchange server but still want to use me for their lists.  I'm running IMail
7.15.

I added an a record and required them to point at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the old way of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Then they created aliases on their exchange server
so anything sent to the old format address gets forwarded to the lists
alias.

Everything works fine except that users local to the exchange server never
receive list posts.  External users have no problems at all.  I renamed the
Imail host alias from mail.domainname.org to lists.domainname.org and even
tried a host file but to no avail.

I'm still hosting their all their web stuff, etc.  So I can't get too
drastic with DNS.

Has anyone experienced this?  Can it be done?  Do you know of a good (Free)
list server that they could run on their exchange server and offload this
from me?

Thanks,
Evans Martin



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman
 Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:18 AM
 To: Hirthe, Alexander
 Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] MS-Exchange, Store and Forward and
 Declude
 
  You  will  need  all account three times (Imail/Popcon/Exchange) and
  you  will  have  another  point of failure, but additionally another
  virus scanner on Popcon (RAV Antivirus) :)
 
 You  would  find  my scripts much easier, as you only need to maintain
 the Exchange (AD) address list, nothing more.
 
 --Sandy
 
 
 
 Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
 Broadleaf Systems, a division of
 Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!
 
 http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/relea
 se/
 
 Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail
 Aliases!
 
 http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/downl
 oad/release/
 
 http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beginner configuration?

[Evans Martin]

Does LOOSENSPAMHEADERS   ON have to go in the global.cfg?  What if I want to
do this for one domain but not for others?  Is there any way to accomplish
this?

Thanks,
Evans Martin


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:17 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Beginner configuration?
 
 Joey,
 
 Declude is very effective when tweaked.  Not to mention the default
 global.cfg ships without all of the RBL's that most of us use (XBL, UCE,
 MAIL-POLICE, SENDERDB).  Also, there are other 3rd patry utilties which
 are
 very effective at catching spam like like invURIBL and Message Sniffer.
 Both of those applications have trial versions.
 
 Are you still using the default scale?  Since you have been working with
 your global.cfg you might want to post it to the list for us to look over
 it
 and see what you have done so far as to make suggestions.
 
 For your clients that you are not in control of I would imagine that you
 know the ip blocks they come from or the firewall ip that they are behind
 that.  You can whitelist that ip so that them failing the cmdspace will
 not
 be a factor.  CMDSPACE is very effective but direct connects from clients
 using outlook will set that off.
 
 For SPAMHEADERS I use LOOSENSPAMHEADERS   ON this relaxes the
 spamheaders
 test so that it does not trigger on missing message ID emails.
 
 Hope that helps,
 Darrell
  
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
 Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration,
 MRTG
 Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
 
 Joey Proulx writes:
 
  Hello,
 
  Just downloaded the demo version of Junkmail Pro, and I was curious
 about
  the basic setup.  For the last two days I've monitored and tweaked and
  held and redirected and spent hours upon hours looking over the junkmail
  setup and rules and whatnot.  I'm wondering if I'm reinventing the
 wheel.
  I work for a school district with a big spam problem, but as any of you
 in
  gov't know, if I tell them we should buy something I need to make sure
 it
  works.  I was just wondering if there are any tried and true setups that
  any of you are using to cut down on the spam.  I'm seeing that this
 system
  works, but I'm also still running the built-in Imail filter, and I've
 seen
  quite a few messages that get caught by Imail, but have a Declude score
 of
  0, that should NOT have made it through.  Do you all still run the
 builtin
  Imail spam as well?  Any filters I should definitely setup?
 
  I'm seeing a lot of CMDSPACE and SPAMHEADERS (missing MessageID header)
  from some local clients (I don't control all my clients, so I don't
 think
  I can make them authenticate).  Should I do away with these tests, or
 can
  I fix these two issues on the server side?
 
  Thanks for all your help.
 
  _
  Joey Proulx
  SAU #21 Technology Support Staff
  2 Alumni Drive
  Hampton, NH 03842
  (603) 926-8992, ext 115
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] LOGFILE Legal

[Evans Martin]

I wish to move my Declude log file out of the Imail\Spool directory and to a
directory called \Program Files\SyslogD\Logs.  However, when I set LOGFILE
to c:\Program Files\SyslogD\Logs\dec.log, I get a log file in the root
directory of my hard drive called program and no output in the target
directory.

What values are legal in the LOGFILE section?  Do I need to format them as
relative from the Imail directory like ..\..\ Program
Files\SyslogD\Logs\dec.log?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Ipswitch/Imail... Actionable?

[Evans Martin]

Sounds like a class action lawsuit to me.  Anyone have any legal experience?  Let's 
spank 'um!


-- Original Message --
From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:48:50 -0400

 I would recommend that all contract owners call Ipswitch to voice their
concerns. I told them that we've paid for 4 professional contracts which
were supposed to get us support, fixes, AND major upgrades. Considering
we've never called for support, and now that they've decided to discontinue
Imail, I wanted a refund. Furthermore, I was quite irritated that no warning
was given to the user base about this transition. 

It's called: Deceptive business practice.

You can't in good faith sell someone a '12 month service agreement' late
September for a product that you know you will completely discontinue in the
next few weeks.

The point is not, whether a provider may be willing to support me for 12
months - the point is that I would have not chosen to purchase a service
agreement (or actually TWO) for a discontinued product.  I was deceived to
throw good money behind an obsolete product.

I wonder if this is actionable.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/

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[Declude.JunkMail] Deccon

[Evans Martin]

I
have added CONSOLE ON to my global.cfg and virus.cfg and am not getting any output to the
console screen? Will it automatically start? Do I need to run it manually? I
see it running in my task list but no visible output. What am I doing wrong?



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spam review

[Evans Martin]

If it is written in VB, then VB needs to have service packs applied and
then recompile the app and recreate the install package.  I had this
problem with IBP in the past.

Evans Martin
http://www.martekware.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Lawrence
 Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spam review
 
 Did anyone have any problem installing Spam Review?
 I'm trying to install it on a Windows 2000 Server and it tells
 me that it needs to update files first and the system needs to
 reboot before setup can run. I let it update the files, manually
 restart the system and try to run setup again. Setup then tells
 me the exact same thing, that it needs to update files first.
 Am I missing something? Is the fact that I did not let the program
 restart the system have an affect?
 
 Thanks,
 
 __
 Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner
 Internet Data Technology
 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381
 http://www.idatatech.com/ http://www.idatatech.com/
 Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Pereira
 Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spam review
 
 
 What would be the best way to do the below :
 
 I've solved this be marking the subject line of all hold messages with
 [spam %weight%]
 Now you can sort in spamreview by sibject line and it will show all
hold
 messages in weighted order.
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [OT] Good iMail syslog viewer

[Evans Martin]

Are you looking for something like the unix tail f command? We are finishing up on a Windows program
that works like tail f and grep combined. Let me know if you are interested and Ill
work harder. It is not far from
completion.



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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Maze
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004
9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] [OT]
Good iMail syslog viewer





Hello,





 Was wondering if anyone
knows of a good iMail syslog viewer. Would like to see the IP addresses
of messages arriving to try and block the [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. type of mass
mailers..





 Thanks..

[Declude.JunkMail] Regular Expressions?

[Evans Martin]

Can you use regular expressions in Declude filter definitions?

Thanks,
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[Declude.JunkMail]

[Evans Martin]

I am trying to whitelist a domain
so it will not be scanned by Declude. I have used the WHITELIST TODOMAIN in the
global.cfg but the message is still being scored by declude. What
am I doing wrong?



Thank You,

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WHITELIST TODOMAIN fbcnashville.org





 Header from one of the offending messages


Received: from netadmin
[216.84.130.46] by fbcnashville.org with ESMTP

 (SMTPD32-7.15)
id ABB22FE00B6; Mon, 19 Jul
 2004 14:06:26 -0500

Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Lacy Tite [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'Evans Martin' [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [Possible SPAM] + FW: Testing

Date: Mon, 19 Jul
 2004 14:11:07 -0500

Organization: First Baptist Church

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[Declude.JunkMail] JunkMail Newbie

[Evans Martin]

Is there a clearing house of JunkMail
rules, configs, etc. somewhere so I dont have to
start completely from scratch?



Thanks,

Evans Martin



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Evans L. Martin - Owner,
Martek.Net

(615) 324-6074 Office
(615) 523-1679 FAX

ISP  Website Development: http://www.martek.net

Programming  Project Mgmt.: http://www.martekware.com

Hire Me: http://www.martek.net/resume.pdf