RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems [451 Deffered]

2006-11-08 Thread William Stillwell
 
Just found this:

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html



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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:34 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

Hi Everyone,

This isn't a Declude question but with all of the expertise here I knew
someone could help.  Please forgive the off-topic message.

I'm receiving a bunch of deliver failures today for Yahoo.  The message is:

Failed Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reason: Remote host said: 451 Message temporarily deferred - [190]


I searched google and I searched Yahoo's site to see if I could find an
explanation of this message -- no joy.

I didn't know if it meant they are blocking our IP or if Yahoo was having
problems.  It sounded to me like they are blocking us.

I could not find anything on Yahoo's site about who to contact, what the
message means -- nothing.

Can someone shed some light on what may be going on?

Thanks,

Dave





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

2006-11-02 Thread Troy D. Hilton
Hey Dave,

This has been an ongoing issue for the past month or so. It's been discussed
in the Imail newsgroup for weeks. The short of it is that there are issues
with Yahoo's mail servers that are causing these intermittent delivery
problems. Yahoo claims that it's due to an increase in spam traffic
overwhelming their systems. Either way, know that you are not on a blacklist
and you're not the only one having this problem. For more info check the
Imail archive here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/, and search for
 Yahoo Delaying Messages

Hope this helps.

Troy D. Hilton
Serveon, Inc.
302-529-8640
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:34 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

Hi Everyone,

This isn't a Declude question but with all of the expertise here I knew
someone could help.  Please forgive the off-topic message.

I'm receiving a bunch of deliver failures today for Yahoo.  The message is:

Failed Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reason: Remote host said: 451 Message temporarily deferred - [190]


I searched google and I searched Yahoo's site to see if I could find an
explanation of this message -- no joy.

I didn't know if it meant they are blocking our IP or if Yahoo was having
problems.  It sounded to me like they are blocking us.

I could not find anything on Yahoo's site about who to contact, what the
message means -- nothing.

Can someone shed some light on what may be going on?

Thanks,

Dave





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

2006-11-02 Thread David Barker
Just throwing this out there. I had heard that Yahoo.com was using
greylisting on all email that did not support domain keys. Don't now if it
is true, perhaps a rumor may be worth checking out.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:34 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

Hi Everyone,

This isn't a Declude question but with all of the expertise here I knew
someone could help.  Please forgive the off-topic message.

I'm receiving a bunch of deliver failures today for Yahoo.  The message is:

Failed Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reason: Remote host said: 451 Message temporarily deferred - [190]


I searched google and I searched Yahoo's site to see if I could find an
explanation of this message -- no joy.

I didn't know if it meant they are blocking our IP or if Yahoo was having
problems.  It sounded to me like they are blocking us.

I could not find anything on Yahoo's site about who to contact, what the
message means -- nothing.

Can someone shed some light on what may be going on?

Thanks,

Dave





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

2006-11-02 Thread Craig Edmonds
Oh look.

Number 1 on google for domain keys.

http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:25 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

Just throwing this out there. I had heard that Yahoo.com was using
greylisting on all email that did not support domain keys. Don't now if it
is true, perhaps a rumor may be worth checking out.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:34 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

Hi Everyone,

This isn't a Declude question but with all of the expertise here I knew
someone could help.  Please forgive the off-topic message.

I'm receiving a bunch of deliver failures today for Yahoo.  The message is:

Failed Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reason: Remote host said: 451 Message temporarily deferred - [190]


I searched google and I searched Yahoo's site to see if I could find an
explanation of this message -- no joy.

I didn't know if it meant they are blocking our IP or if Yahoo was having
problems.  It sounded to me like they are blocking us.

I could not find anything on Yahoo's site about who to contact, what the
message means -- nothing.

Can someone shed some light on what may be going on?

Thanks,

Dave





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

2006-11-02 Thread Troy D. Hilton
This too was discussed in the Imail forum. Someone actually did some testing
with the domain keys. The greylisting is not totally valid as emails were
passed with and without the keys. It seems to be a random issue in the sense
that there doesn't seem to be any particular pattern to the failed emails.

Troy D. Hilton
Serveon, Inc.
302-529-8640
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:25 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

Just throwing this out there. I had heard that Yahoo.com was using
greylisting on all email that did not support domain keys. Don't now if it
is true, perhaps a rumor may be worth checking out.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:34 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

Hi Everyone,

This isn't a Declude question but with all of the expertise here I knew
someone could help.  Please forgive the off-topic message.

I'm receiving a bunch of deliver failures today for Yahoo.  The message is:

Failed Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reason: Remote host said: 451 Message temporarily deferred - [190]


I searched google and I searched Yahoo's site to see if I could find an
explanation of this message -- no joy.

I didn't know if it meant they are blocking our IP or if Yahoo was having
problems.  It sounded to me like they are blocking us.

I could not find anything on Yahoo's site about who to contact, what the
message means -- nothing.

Can someone shed some light on what may be going on?

Thanks,

Dave





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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

2006-11-02 Thread Matt
Yahoo has been having issues since October 16th.  This is almost 
definitely due to the new brute force zombie spammer.  My own connection 
traffic doubled in the space of two weeks, and almost all of that was 
zombie spam and backscatter to forged addresses.  Yahoo probably didn't 
have the infrastructure to handle the rapid increase in load which is 
why they are still having problems after almost 3 weeks.


Regarding DomainKeys, this is just another one of those completely 
ineffective E-mail ID techniques.  The vast majority of messages that we 
receive with DomainKeys are from spammers.  Since all of these 
techniques are built to target forging zombie spam, they would be better 
off just doing something that better targtets zombie spam instead of 
trying to push yet another E-mail ID scheme.


Matt



David Barker wrote:

Just throwing this out there. I had heard that Yahoo.com was using
greylisting on all email that did not support domain keys. Don't now if it
is true, perhaps a rumor may be worth checking out.

David B
www.declude.com 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:34 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

Hi Everyone,

This isn't a Declude question but with all of the expertise here I knew
someone could help.  Please forgive the off-topic message.

I'm receiving a bunch of deliver failures today for Yahoo.  The message is:

Failed Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reason: Remote host said: 451 Message temporarily deferred - [190]


I searched google and I searched Yahoo's site to see if I could find an
explanation of this message -- no joy.

I didn't know if it meant they are blocking our IP or if Yahoo was having
problems.  It sounded to me like they are blocking us.

I could not find anything on Yahoo's site about who to contact, what the
message means -- nothing.

Can someone shed some light on what may be going on?

Thanks,

Dave





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Beckstrom


Thank you all who replied to my inquiry about the Yahoo deliver problems!
Good to know I'm not on a blacklist.  This was the first we've encountered
problems with yahoo so we must have just hit it at a time they were having
problems.

Thanks again,

Dave

 





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