Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Darin Cox



How about negative weighting instead of 
whitelisting.

If you want to do it selectively, you can create a 
quick Declude filter that you give a high negative weight to, and only include 
the domains that you want to pass through based on having REVDNS 
entries.
Darin.


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From: Craig 
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To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev 
dns

How can I whitelist 
based on Reverse DNS?

Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



Craig, I don't use any of the Declude WHITELIST features 
due to the potential for giving the sender carte blanche access; if a known good 
sender is sending crap, I still want to have a chance to block the 
crap.

What I do is counterweight.

I create a filter file called, say, CounterWeight.txt and 
in the global.cfg I give it zero weight for passing or 
failing.

Inside the filter file, I put in lines like 
this:

#Feb-01-2006 AC SurveyMonkey.com MAILFROM spoofs the email 
address of whomever is sending out the survey invitationsREMOTEIP -10 
CIDR 66.179.50.160/27REVDNS -5 ENDSWITH 
.surveymonkey.com
My preference is to use REMOTEIP tests, then REVDNS, then 
HELO, then HEADERS, then MAILFROM for reliablityand antispoofedness. 
Likewise, they get decending amounts of negative weight.

Another tip:

I put a test at the top of my CounterWeight file(s) 
that aborts processing if I don't want to reward a message with negative weight, 
such as if a prior filter test (according to the top-down order in global.cfg) 
of mine detected a known virus or junk email that I know I want to block 
regardless of whom it came from, e.g.

TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS VIRUSBOUNCE


TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS 
COMBOSNIFFER


Andrew 8)



  
  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig EdmondsSent: 
  Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:25 AMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  whitelisting based on rev dnsImportance: 
  HighSensitivity: Confidential
  
  How can I 
  whitelist based on Reverse DNS?
  
  Kindest RegardsCraig 
  Edmonds123 Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com
  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Greg Evanitsky


On Nov 8, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Craig Edmonds wrote:


How can I whitelist based on Reverse DNS?


Create a filter with lines like

REVDNS  xxx  ENDSWITH  .abcdefghi.com

where xxx is weight to apply. Xxx could be a very high number to  
cause the message to be deleted or it could be a negative number.


In my revdns spam filter I also have the following lines at the top  
to save processor usage


SKIPIFWEIGHT  xx
STOPATFIRSTHIT

If the message's weight already exceeds xx the filter will be skipped.

Later,
Greg






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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Nick Hayer




Craig Edmonds wrote:

  
  
  How
can I whitelist based on Reverse DNS?

REMOTEIP WHITELIST CIDR  64.4.240.0/20
REVDNS  WHITELIST ENDSWITH .paypal.com
etc...

-Nick

  
  Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
  
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Andy Schmidt



Absolutely, 

WHITELIST REVDNS 
.declude.com

You can alsocan create your own RDNSBL zone in your 
DNS server (that's what I did) and create one for SPF domains that spammers set 
up to reliably reject mail based on reverse DNS (thank you for them adhering to 
SPF!).
Then 
you set up a WhiteList zone for known "good" reverse DNS, which you use to 
subtract weight or combine with a filter to whitelist 
outright.

Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig EdmondsSent: 
Wednesday, November 08, 2006 01:25 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting 
based on rev dnsImportance: HighSensitivity: 
Confidential

How can I whitelist 
based on Reverse DNS?

Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Todd Richards
Is the Reverse DNS in the headers anywhere?  I've just been going out to
DNSReports.com and pulling it for the ones I want to add.  Easier way?

Todd
 

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Evanitsky
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 12:56 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns
Importance: High


On Nov 8, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Craig Edmonds wrote:

 How can I whitelist based on Reverse DNS?

Create a filter with lines like

REVDNS  xxx  ENDSWITH  .abcdefghi.com

where xxx is weight to apply. Xxx could be a very high number to cause the
message to be deleted or it could be a negative number.

In my revdns spam filter I also have the following lines at the top to save
processor usage

SKIPIFWEIGHT  xx
STOPATFIRSTHIT

If the message's weight already exceeds xx the filter will be skipped.

Later,
Greg






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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Todd,

As you know headers can be forged so its always best to manually look-up the 
IP.  As you said earlier you are using fpReview.  In the headers view you 
can right click and select resolve ip's to hostnames to get the reverse dns. 
Than after that you can highlight any of the text and automatically create a 
revdns entry in a filter.

We have a quick overview video showing the basic features at
http://www.invariantsystems.com/fpreview/screencaptures.htm
under video.

Darrell


Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers.

- Original Message - 
From: Todd Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns


Is the Reverse DNS in the headers anywhere?  I've just been going out to
DNSReports.com and pulling it for the ones I want to add.  Easier way?

Todd


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
Evanitsky
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 12:56 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns
Importance: High


On Nov 8, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Craig Edmonds wrote:

 How can I whitelist based on Reverse DNS?

Create a filter with lines like

REVDNS  xxx  ENDSWITH  .abcdefghi.com

where xxx is weight to apply. Xxx could be a very high number to cause the
message to be deleted or it could be a negative number.

In my revdns spam filter I also have the following lines at the top to save
processor usage

SKIPIFWEIGHT  xx
STOPATFIRSTHIT

If the message's weight already exceeds xx the filter will be skipped.

Later,
Greg






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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Todd,

You can configure Declude to add its own header with diagnostic information,
including the Reverse DNS, e.g.:

XINHEADER   X-Declude: Version %VERSION%; Code 0x%HEADERCODE% from
%REVDNS% [%REMOTEIP%]
XINHEADER   X-Declude: Triggered [%WEIGHT%] %TESTSFAILED%
XINHEADER   X-Countries: %COUNTRYCHAIN%
XINHEADER   Return-Path: %MAILFROM% 



Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 04:13 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

Is the Reverse DNS in the headers anywhere?  I've just been going out to
DNSReports.com and pulling it for the ones I want to add.  Easier way?

Todd
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
Evanitsky
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 12:56 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns
Importance: High


On Nov 8, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Craig Edmonds wrote:

 How can I whitelist based on Reverse DNS?

Create a filter with lines like

REVDNS  xxx  ENDSWITH  .abcdefghi.com

where xxx is weight to apply. Xxx could be a very high number to cause the
message to be deleted or it could be a negative number.

In my revdns spam filter I also have the following lines at the top to save
processor usage

SKIPIFWEIGHT  xx
STOPATFIRSTHIT

If the message's weight already exceeds xx the filter will be skipped.

Later,
Greg






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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



In the header of the message, look at the last 
IP address in square brackets, this is the IP address of the sending email 
server. The text just before it is the HELO sent by it, and is often 
unreliable with legitimate mail, and practically a work of fiction with 
spam.To get the REVDNS that you can put in your filter files, go to a 
command prompt and use the name server lookup program with the IP address as the 
only parameter, e.g.C:\Tempnslookup 63.246.31.248Server: 
myinternal.DNS.serverAddress: 
192.168.0.1Name: smtp.declude.comAddress: 
63.246.31.248C:\TempSome admins don't mind the 
extra overhead, and use the XINHEADERand/or XOUTHEADER feature in their 
global.cfg to insertvarious lines into the header of every message that 
contain Declude variables like REVDNS. One common thing that comes up when 
doing this is that if you use the ALLRECIPS to document in the header who all 
the recipients are, you've just "blown the cover" on someone who sent a 
legitimate email with a BCC list of recipients in your domain(s). Don't do 
that.

Andrew 8)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
Behalf Of Todd Richards Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:13 
PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: 
[Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns Is the Reverse 
DNS in the headers anywhere? I've just been going out to 
DNSReports.com and pulling it for the ones I want to add. Easier 
way? Todd -Original 
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
Behalf Of Greg Evanitsky Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 12:56 
PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: 
[Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns Importance: 
High On Nov 8, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Craig Edmonds 
wrote:  How can I whitelist based on Reverse 
DNS? Create a filter with lines like 
REVDNS xxx ENDSWITH .abcdefghi.com where xxx 
is weight to apply. Xxx could be a very high number to cause the message 
to be deleted or it could be a negative number. In my revdns 
spam filter I also have the following lines at the top to save processor 
usage SKIPIFWEIGHT xx 
STOPATFIRSTHIT If the message's weight already exceeds xx the 
filter will be skipped. Later, 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Todd Richards
Thanks Darrell.  That's a great feature (and I just purchased an fpReview
license)!

Todd


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:52 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

Todd,

As you know headers can be forged so its always best to manually look-up the
IP.  As you said earlier you are using fpReview.  In the headers view you
can right click and select resolve ip's to hostnames to get the reverse dns.

Than after that you can highlight any of the text and automatically create a
revdns entry in a filter.

We have a quick overview video showing the basic features at
http://www.invariantsystems.com/fpreview/screencaptures.htm
under video.

Darrell


Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG
Integration, and Log Parsers.

- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns


Is the Reverse DNS in the headers anywhere?  I've just been going out to
DNSReports.com and pulling it for the ones I want to add.  Easier way?

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
Evanitsky
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 12:56 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns
Importance: High


On Nov 8, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Craig Edmonds wrote:

 How can I whitelist based on Reverse DNS?

Create a filter with lines like

REVDNS  xxx  ENDSWITH  .abcdefghi.com

where xxx is weight to apply. Xxx could be a very high number to cause the
message to be deleted or it could be a negative number.

In my revdns spam filter I also have the following lines at the top to save
processor usage

SKIPIFWEIGHT  xx
STOPATFIRSTHIT

If the message's weight already exceeds xx the filter will be skipped.

Later,
Greg






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