RE: [Declude.Virus] Conflicting Encoding Vulnerability

2003-01-23 Thread John Tolmachoff
In case Scott does not answer right away, can you post a log snippet?

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve Flook
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:46 AM
 To: Declude mailing list (E-mail)
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Conflicting Encoding Vulnerability
 
 Scott / list,
 
 I'm wondering if I can somehow disable this test, or possibly weaken it
etc
 as I'm getting a couple of false positives from a particular client that
is
 sending emails to herself from her AOL address.  A declude -diag shows I'm
 running v1.65.
 
 The headers are below.  I can send more info regarding that email if
useful.
 
 Thanks,
 Steve
 
 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35] by webster.270net.com
 with ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-7.13) id ADA68AA016A; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:35:18 -0500
 Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 3.139.19f1c555 (18707)
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:37:26 -0500 (EST)
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:37:26 EST
 Subject: Fwd: gmt Super Bowl Report 01/21/2003
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary=part1_139.19f1c555.2b615826_boundary
 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10634
 X-Country-Chain:
 X-Note: RDNS Real-Origin:  [205.188.157.35]
 X-Note: SMTP Real-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Note: SMTP Real-To: (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Note: Tests Failed, If Any: None
 X-Note: WEIGHT, If Any: 0
 
 
 --part1_139.19f1c555.2b615826_boundary
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 
 
 --part1_139.19f1c555.2b615826_boundary
 Content-Type: message/rfc822
 Content-Disposition: inline
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: from  rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (rly-xb04.mail.aol.com
[172.20.105.105])
 by air-xb02.mail.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXB21-0121171850;
Tue,
 21 Jan 2003 17:18:50 -0500
 Received: from  recomm1.onlinerecommerce.com ([66.109.35.141]) by
 rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB43-0121171810;
 Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:18:10 -0500
 Received: by recomm1.onlinerecommerce.com (Postfix, from userid 33)
   id A934945775; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:32:15 -0500 (EST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: gmt Super Bowl Report 01/21/2003
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   boundary==_NextPart_000_0005_01C2045D.33A4E770
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:32:15 -0500 (EST)
 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
 
 
 --=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2045D.33A4E770
 Content-Type: text/plain;
   charset=US-ASCII
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 ---
 [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
 
 ---
 This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
 unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
 type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found
 at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.



Re: [Declude.Virus] Conflicting Encoding Vulnerability

2003-01-23 Thread R. Scott Perry


I'm wondering if I can somehow disable this test, or possibly weaken it etc


Your only option is to disable vulnerability detection completely, which 
will almost certainly allow future viruses through.

When it comes to vulnerabilities, it is best to just fix the problem.

The headers are below.  I can send more info regarding that email if useful.


Do you have the log file entries for this E-mail?  That should provide some 
very useful information.
  -Scott

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.Virus] Conflicting Encoding Vulnerability

2003-01-23 Thread Steve Flook
Sure - should of thought to give that on the first shot... 

My log level was set to MID.  I have set the log level to HIGH now for the
time being.  Here is 2 of them that were sent back to back.

01/23/2003 09:35:18 Qfda5036201b8bde7 Conflicting Encoding vulnerability in
[7bit].
01/23/2003 09:35:18 Qfda5036201b8bde7 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [Prescan
OK][MIME: 3 30313]
01/23/2003 09:35:18 Qfda5036201b8bde7 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
01/23/2003 09:35:18 Qfda5036201b8bde7 Subject: Fwd: gmt Super Bowl Report
01/21/2003
01/23/2003 09:35:18 Qfda608aa016abf6e Conflicting Encoding vulnerability in
[7bit].
01/23/2003 09:35:18 Qfda608aa016abf6e Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [Prescan
OK][MIME: 3 30315]
01/23/2003 09:35:18 Qfda608aa016abf6e From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
01/23/2003 09:35:18 Qfda608aa016abf6e Subject: Fwd: gmt Super Bowl Report
01/21/2003

Steve

-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Conflicting Encoding Vulnerability


In case Scott does not answer right away, can you post a log snippet?

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve Flook
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:46 AM
 To: Declude mailing list (E-mail)
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Conflicting Encoding Vulnerability
 
 Scott / list,
 
 I'm wondering if I can somehow disable this test, or possibly weaken it
etc
 as I'm getting a couple of false positives from a particular client that
is
 sending emails to herself from her AOL address.  A declude -diag shows I'm
 running v1.65.
 
 The headers are below.  I can send more info regarding that email if
useful.
 
 Thanks,
 Steve
 
 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35] by webster.270net.com
 with ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-7.13) id ADA68AA016A; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:35:18 -0500
 Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 3.139.19f1c555 (18707)
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:37:26 -0500 (EST)
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:37:26 EST
 Subject: Fwd: gmt Super Bowl Report 01/21/2003
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary=part1_139.19f1c555.2b615826_boundary
 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10634
 X-Country-Chain:
 X-Note: RDNS Real-Origin:  [205.188.157.35]
 X-Note: SMTP Real-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Note: SMTP Real-To: (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Note: Tests Failed, If Any: None
 X-Note: WEIGHT, If Any: 0
 
 
 --part1_139.19f1c555.2b615826_boundary
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 
 
 --part1_139.19f1c555.2b615826_boundary
 Content-Type: message/rfc822
 Content-Disposition: inline
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: from  rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (rly-xb04.mail.aol.com
[172.20.105.105])
 by air-xb02.mail.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXB21-0121171850;
Tue,
 21 Jan 2003 17:18:50 -0500
 Received: from  recomm1.onlinerecommerce.com ([66.109.35.141]) by
 rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB43-0121171810;
 Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:18:10 -0500
 Received: by recomm1.onlinerecommerce.com (Postfix, from userid 33)
   id A934945775; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:32:15 -0500 (EST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: gmt Super Bowl Report 01/21/2003
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   boundary==_NextPart_000_0005_01C2045D.33A4E770
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:32:15 -0500 (EST)
 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
 
 
 --=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2045D.33A4E770
 Content-Type: text/plain;
   charset=US-ASCII
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 ---
 [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]
 
 ---
 This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
 unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
 type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found
 at http://www.mail-archive.com.

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.



RE: [Declude.Virus] Conflicting Encoding Vulnerability

2003-01-23 Thread R. Scott Perry


Sure - should of thought to give that on the first shot...


Actually, I should have caught this without looking at the logs -- for some 
reason, I was thinking of a different issue.  The problem is:

--=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2045D.33A4E770
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here, the encoding is shown as both 7bit and quoted-printable.  Because 
of this, this MIME segment can be handled two different ways, and as a 
result, a virus could appear where no virus really is (if that makes any 
sense).

In this case, it appears that someone at AOL received an E-mail with a 
vulnerability and then forwarded it on to someone else.  So the problem 
here really lies with the sender of the original E-mail (onlinerecommerce.com).
   -Scott

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


RE: [Declude.Virus] Conflicting Encoding Vulnerability

2003-01-23 Thread Steve Flook
hmm ok, thanks for the information.

Now I'm wondering how I can explain THAT to the client :)

Steve

-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Conflicting Encoding Vulnerability



Sure - should of thought to give that on the first shot...

Actually, I should have caught this without looking at the logs -- for some 
reason, I was thinking of a different issue.  The problem is:

 --=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2045D.33A4E770
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here, the encoding is shown as both 7bit and quoted-printable.  Because 
of this, this MIME segment can be handled two different ways, and as a 
result, a virus could appear where no virus really is (if that makes any 
sense).

In this case, it appears that someone at AOL received an E-mail with a 
vulnerability and then forwarded it on to someone else.  So the problem 
here really lies with the sender of the original E-mail
(onlinerecommerce.com).
-Scott

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
(http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.