Re: [libreoffice-design] [VOTE] ligatures in the logo

2011-03-16 Thread Johannes Bausch
Agreed. Maybe I should save my efforts for the new, community-based logo
;-).

2011/3/16 Paulo José Amaro paul...@gmail.com

 Same here, B.

 Although, it's just because the kerning seems to be out of place without
 the
 other proposed changes, sadly.
 I think I'll not do help with that (and probably be counter-productive),
 but
 my personal taste is still for C [1].

 ~Paulo

 [1] -

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/f/f1/LogoImprovementStep2.png
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 2011/3/15 Johannes Bausch johannes.bau...@gmail.com

  Yes, to be honest, I don't like that half-broken ligature either. Maybe I
  really should only do something about the kerning.
 
  2011/3/15 Daniel Merker daniel.mer...@wayne.edu
 
  
   My vote: B
  
   Why: It seems that the other option is employing a style that isn't
   consistent across the entire logo; moreover, it doesn't seem to match
   anything else.
  
  
   -Daniel Merker
  
  
   On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bernhard Dippold 
   bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:
  
Hi Joey, all
   
I think we manage to finalize this task soon - great work, Joey!
   
Johannes Bausch schrieb:
   
 Hey,
   
following your discussion I added another draft - which is rather a
step backward, but I see that the connected ligature is your main
concern.
   
   
If I understand the comments right, some people feel more comfortable
with the distinct characters.
   
In fluent text they probably would not have even mentioned the
difference (except the more balanced general visual impression), but
in comparison with the present logo they felt different.
   
Thanks for taking these thoughts into account and to present a
compromise containing all the other tiny modifications you included
 in
order to create an improved visual impression.
   
 [...]
   
   
I compared your last proposal with the current logo here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Logo_ligature.png
(force reload)
   
If anybody wants to be pointed to the differences, please have a look
at Joey's userpage in the wiki (I won't provide the link here, but
you'll find it).
   
For me it is much more important to compare the general impression
rather than the tiny modifications.
   
So I ask you to vote on this comparison:
   
Which logo is more balanced and expresses better the feelings we want
to be associated with LibreOffice?
   
   
   
And if you prefer the present logo: Should we include the other
modifications except the ffi in the old logo?
   
   
Best regards
   
Bernhard
   
PS: I don't vote now, because some people might look at the image
already with my voting in mind which might influence their
 decision...
   
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Re: [libreoffice-design] [VOTE] ligatures in the logo

2011-03-15 Thread Catalin
B

2011/3/15 Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at:
 Hi Joey, all

 I think we manage to finalize this task soon - great work, Joey!

 Johannes Bausch schrieb:

 Hey,

 following your discussion I added another draft - which is rather a
 step backward, but I see that the connected ligature is your main
 concern.

 If I understand the comments right, some people feel more comfortable with
 the distinct characters.

 In fluent text they probably would not have even mentioned the difference
 (except the more balanced general visual impression), but in comparison with
 the present logo they felt different.

 Thanks for taking these thoughts into account and to present a compromise
 containing all the other tiny modifications you included in order to create
 an improved visual impression.

 [...]

 I compared your last proposal with the current logo here:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Logo_ligature.png
 (force reload)

 If anybody wants to be pointed to the differences, please have a look at
 Joey's userpage in the wiki (I won't provide the link here, but you'll find
 it).

 For me it is much more important to compare the general impression rather
 than the tiny modifications.

 So I ask you to vote on this comparison:

 Which logo is more balanced and expresses better the feelings we want to be
 associated with LibreOffice?



 And if you prefer the present logo: Should we include the other
 modifications except the ffi in the old logo?


 Best regards

 Bernhard

 PS: I don't vote now, because some people might look at the image already
 with my voting in mind which might influence their decision...

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Re: [libreoffice-design] [VOTE] ligatures in the logo

2011-03-15 Thread Johannes Bausch
2011/3/15 Catalin catalinf...@gmail.com

 B

I respect your answer, but it would be very helpful if you told us why you
chose B over A =).

@Bernhard: thanks.

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RE: [libreoffice-design] [VOTE] ligatures in the logo

2011-03-15 Thread Daniel Merker

My vote: B

Why: It seems that the other option is employing a style that isn't consistent 
across the entire logo; moreover, it doesn't seem to match anything else.


-Daniel Merker


On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bernhard Dippold  
bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:

 Hi Joey, all

 I think we manage to finalize this task soon - great work, Joey!

 Johannes Bausch schrieb:

  Hey,

 following your discussion I added another draft - which is rather a 
 step backward, but I see that the connected ligature is your main 
 concern.


 If I understand the comments right, some people feel more comfortable 
 with the distinct characters.

 In fluent text they probably would not have even mentioned the 
 difference (except the more balanced general visual impression), but 
 in comparison with the present logo they felt different.

 Thanks for taking these thoughts into account and to present a 
 compromise containing all the other tiny modifications you included in 
 order to create an improved visual impression.

  [...]


 I compared your last proposal with the current logo here:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Logo_ligature.png
 (force reload)

 If anybody wants to be pointed to the differences, please have a look 
 at Joey's userpage in the wiki (I won't provide the link here, but 
 you'll find it).

 For me it is much more important to compare the general impression 
 rather than the tiny modifications.

 So I ask you to vote on this comparison:

 Which logo is more balanced and expresses better the feelings we want 
 to be associated with LibreOffice?



 And if you prefer the present logo: Should we include the other 
 modifications except the ffi in the old logo?


 Best regards

 Bernhard

 PS: I don't vote now, because some people might look at the image 
 already with my voting in mind which might influence their decision...

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Re: [libreoffice-design] [VOTE] ligatures in the logo

2011-03-15 Thread Paulo José Amaro
Same here, B.

Although, it's just because the kerning seems to be out of place without the
other proposed changes, sadly.
I think I'll not do help with that (and probably be counter-productive), but
my personal taste is still for C [1].

~Paulo

[1] -
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/f/f1/LogoImprovementStep2.png
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2011/3/15 Johannes Bausch johannes.bau...@gmail.com

 Yes, to be honest, I don't like that half-broken ligature either. Maybe I
 really should only do something about the kerning.

 2011/3/15 Daniel Merker daniel.mer...@wayne.edu

 
  My vote: B
 
  Why: It seems that the other option is employing a style that isn't
  consistent across the entire logo; moreover, it doesn't seem to match
  anything else.
 
 
  -Daniel Merker
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bernhard Dippold 
  bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:
 
   Hi Joey, all
  
   I think we manage to finalize this task soon - great work, Joey!
  
   Johannes Bausch schrieb:
  
Hey,
  
   following your discussion I added another draft - which is rather a
   step backward, but I see that the connected ligature is your main
   concern.
  
  
   If I understand the comments right, some people feel more comfortable
   with the distinct characters.
  
   In fluent text they probably would not have even mentioned the
   difference (except the more balanced general visual impression), but
   in comparison with the present logo they felt different.
  
   Thanks for taking these thoughts into account and to present a
   compromise containing all the other tiny modifications you included in
   order to create an improved visual impression.
  
[...]
  
  
   I compared your last proposal with the current logo here:
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Logo_ligature.png
   (force reload)
  
   If anybody wants to be pointed to the differences, please have a look
   at Joey's userpage in the wiki (I won't provide the link here, but
   you'll find it).
  
   For me it is much more important to compare the general impression
   rather than the tiny modifications.
  
   So I ask you to vote on this comparison:
  
   Which logo is more balanced and expresses better the feelings we want
   to be associated with LibreOffice?
  
  
  
   And if you prefer the present logo: Should we include the other
   modifications except the ffi in the old logo?
  
  
   Best regards
  
   Bernhard
  
   PS: I don't vote now, because some people might look at the image
   already with my voting in mind which might influence their decision...
  
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Re: [libreoffice-design] [VOTE] ligatures in the logo

2011-03-14 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Joey, all

I think we manage to finalize this task soon - great work, Joey!

Johannes Bausch schrieb:

Hey,

following your discussion I added another draft - which is rather a
step backward, but I see that the connected ligature is your main
concern.


If I understand the comments right, some people feel more comfortable 
with the distinct characters.


In fluent text they probably would not have even mentioned the 
difference (except the more balanced general visual impression), but in 
comparison with the present logo they felt different.


Thanks for taking these thoughts into account and to present a 
compromise containing all the other tiny modifications you included in 
order to create an improved visual impression.



[...]


I compared your last proposal with the current logo here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Logo_ligature.png
(force reload)

If anybody wants to be pointed to the differences, please have a look at 
Joey's userpage in the wiki (I won't provide the link here, but you'll 
find it).


For me it is much more important to compare the general impression 
rather than the tiny modifications.


So I ask you to vote on this comparison:

Which logo is more balanced and expresses better the feelings we want to 
be associated with LibreOffice?




And if you prefer the present logo: Should we include the other 
modifications except the ffi in the old logo?



Best regards

Bernhard

PS: I don't vote now, because some people might look at the image 
already with my voting in mind which might influence their decision...


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