Re: Step 1 - Re: [libreoffice-design] Kicking Off the LibreOffice Design Team
Hi Christoph, Am Sonntag, 23. Januar 2011, 23:02:38 schrieb Christoph Noack: @ Bj�rn: Do you think it makes sense to circulate this invitiation via OpenUsability.org or similar channels? I don't have that much experience with that ... so I'd like to hear your recommendation. Jan wanted to set-up a planet on OpenUsability.org within the next days. I guess it would be best to publish the information this way. Will keep you informed about the progress there. Best, Björn -- Voluntary Open Source Usability: http://www.OpenUsability.org Commercial Open Source Usability: http://www.OpenSource-Usability-Labs.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: Step 1 - Re: [libreoffice-design] Kicking Off the LibreOffice Design Team
Hi Christoph, Am Sonntag, 23. Januar 2011, 23:02:38 schrieb Christoph Noack: @ Bj�rn: Do you think it makes sense to circulate this invitiation via OpenUsability.org or similar channels? I don't have that much experience with that ... so I'd like to hear your recommendation. Jan wanted to set-up a planet on OpenUsability.org within the next days. I guess it would be best to publish the information this way. Will keep you informed about the progress there. Again a new thing? Isn't a good idea first to establish the group and afterwords make the different choices?! And can anyone explain me OpenUsability? Is it a collaberative tool that Designers and Developer can work together? Best, Björn -- Voluntary Open Source Usability: http://www.OpenUsability.org Commercial Open Source Usability: http://www.OpenSource-Usability-Labs.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: Re: Step 1 - Re: [libreoffice-design] Kicking Off the LibreOffice Design Team
Hi, Am Montag, 24. Januar 2011, 02:52:13 schrieb m...@crazyhstudio.net: Hi Christoph, Am Sonntag, 23. Januar 2011, 23:02:38 schrieb Christoph Noack: @ Bj�rn: Do you think it makes sense to circulate this invitiation via OpenUsability.org or similar channels? I don't have that much experience with that ... so I'd like to hear your recommendation. Jan wanted to set-up a planet on OpenUsability.org within the next days. I guess it would be best to publish the information this way. Will keep you informed about the progress there. Again a new thing? Isn't a good idea first to establish the group and afterwords make the different choices?! And can anyone explain me OpenUsability? Is it a collaberative tool that Designers and Developer can work together? OpenUsability.org is an not-for-profit organisation that aims at bringing together uability experts with open source projects (and opening the process of doing usability) - we just want to do some promotion to attract some more experts to join our efforts on LibO. So no tools - only marketing. Best, Björn Best, Björn -- Voluntary Open Source Usability: http://www.OpenUsability.org Commercial Open Source Usability: http://www.OpenSource-Usability-Labs.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Björn Balazs Leitung Analyse, Design Test, Gesellschafter _ Wir binden Anwender in Entwicklungsprozesse ein. _ Apliki Psychologische IT-Beratung Tempelhofer Ufer 1a 10961 Berlin Fon +49 · 30 · 99277999 · 31 Mob +49 · 179 · 4541949 Mail bjoern.bal...@apliki.de Netz www.apliki.de _ Apliki GmbH Co. KG, Berlin, AG Charlottenburg, HRA 39114 Persönlich haftend: Apliki Beteiligungs GmbH, Berlin, AG Charlottenburg, HRB 104921 vertreten durch: Steffen Eßers, Björn Balazs -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: Step 1 and more (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Kicking Off the LibreOffice Design Team)
Hi Björn, all! Am Montag, den 24.01.2011, 11:44 +0100 schrieb Björn Balazs: Am Sonntag, 23. Januar 2011, 23:02:38 schrieb Christoph Noack: @ Bj�rn: Do you think it makes sense to circulate this invitiation via OpenUsability.org or similar channels? I don't have that much experience with that ... so I'd like to hear your recommendation. Jan wanted to set-up a planet on OpenUsability.org within the next days. I guess it would be best to publish the information this way. Will keep you informed about the progress there. Oh, that would be just great! Thanks a lot!!! In the meantime, I've started a wiki page to collect all the information we'll work on. Maybe this will help for both us, and all the people who'll join a bit later. More to come ... http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off Moreover, I thought a bit about the previous work at OpenOffice.org. Personally, I'm sure that there is a lot information we might have some benefit from ... but I'd like to hear your opinion, if you are interested in such stuff. Basically, I can provide some stories about our feature development (and UX research), the procedures, the tools and the many ideas that are already available in the OpenOffice.org wiki. And, I'd like to ask Bernhard to summarize the branding and the artwork work (sounds somehow funny...). From my point-of-view, I'd like to put this is the wiki as well - let's say a story each day (or two). What do you think? (Especially Bernhard, since I didn't ask him in advance *g*). Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Kicking Off the LibreOffice Design Team
Hi Chrtoph, all On 22-01-2011 22:18, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi all! [...] Originally, I've planned to send out the invitations today, but since David asked for some content for the Get Involved - Designers Site [1], this text [2] might be re-usable for the request. So I'd like to wait for David's / your comments until tomorrow ... The firt time I saw this page my enthusiasm waned a bit... :( I thought if the other pages (developers, etc) were this way too... And it was bad to see that all they was so encouraging and full of interesting content, and only the designers page is so, you know, empty and cold. Now it's actually great to see the interest to write some words in this page, 'cause motivation is essential to make people want to join us! :D @ Paulo: Raised hands! And feets too! So, a usability professional that can also fly? :-) Theis is the kind of things that we don't learn in highschool... :P To be honest, great summary concerning the dialog you've made - with regard to the short time. Of course, some things might stay or need tweaking (because of: constraints, use cases, ...), but great start! Thank you! I'm really excited to resume the progress in this topic, or even related issues. But I'm waiting for a community decision on which projects that we should get envolved from now, which are our priorities. I'm begining to realise how things works better when we have goals looking at the big picture. See you all -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Step 1 - Re: [libreoffice-design] Kicking Off the LibreOffice Design Team
Hi all, just a short status update concerning our kick-off. Due to the text revised by David and Jaron, I was able to quickly publish an invitation to our community. Thanks! @ Bernhard: Sorry, I've just missed your proposals concerning the text - so it is the old version :-\ Am Freitag, den 21.01.2011, 23:30 +0100 schrieb Christoph Noack: 1. Invite people who want to join / listen via a blog posting and on TDF discuss -- nobody should be missed Blog posting (should be available soon via the TDF planet [1]): http://luxate.blogspot.com/2011/01/invitiation-kicking-off-libreoffice.html Mail to the TDF Discuss mailing list: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg04715.html @ Björn: Do you think it makes sense to circulate this invitiation via OpenUsability.org or similar channels? I don't have that much experience with that ... so I'd like to hear your recommendation. 2. Summarize the current status of work / collaboration within the LibreOffice project -- get an overview what happened until now 3. Do some introduction to get to know each other -- guess why :-) 4. Collection of thoughts what we do need to organize / to do our work 5. Working on the urgent needs of our current project -- e.g. there have been requests to feed the development ;-) 6. Planning how to collect and to prioritize the future tasks -- think about what we want to archive mid- and long-term 7. Kick of one or more serious projects ... Cheers, Christoph [1] http://planet.documentfoundation.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Small Icon Artwork Project (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Kicking Off the LibreOffice Design Team)
Hi Paulo, and everyone who is interested as well ... :-) Am Sonntag, den 23.01.2011, 19:28 -0200 schrieb Paulo José: Hi Chrtoph, all On 22-01-2011 22:18, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi all! [...] The firt time I saw this page my enthusiasm waned a bit... :( I thought if the other pages (developers, etc) were this way too... And it was bad to see that all they was so encouraging and full of interesting content, and only the designers page is so, you know, empty and cold. Now it's actually great to see the interest to write some words in this page, 'cause motivation is essential to make people want to join us! :D Absolutely! Thank you! I'm really excited to resume the progress in this topic, or even related issues. But I'm waiting for a community decision on which projects that we should get envolved from now, which are our priorities. I'm begining to realise how things works better when we have goals looking at the big picture. Cool, but there might also be a small project that might be interesting for you - to be honest, it is about creating two graphics which will help to resolve a recent issue in LibreOffice. Since you stated that you love design, I thought it might just fit :-) A few weeks ago, there has been a discussion on the dev list with some developers. Kohei worked on improvements concerning the document is changed status that is shown in the status bar ... instead of using the ancient looking star (*), he used a graphic for that. Unfortunately, this graphic caused to start a discussion ... http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00087.html Might this be something for you? If yes, then please spend some time on crawling the messages that have been linked ... At least, the chances are very high to get that included in LibreOffice very very soon :-) Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Kicking Off the LibreOffice Design Team
Raised hands! And feets too! :P I'm new, but stand by me. :) On 21-01-2011 20:30, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi all, I really enjoyed the today's introductions and discussions - and it seems to me, that we start to feel like a real team. And, some people offered help or already picked tough work items. This is just great, but it also shows that we soon need some more information on what we want to achieve, and how we will probably work together. At the moment, many of the required information is either spread over different mailing lists and wiki pages, hidden in people's heads, or not yet available. Something to change? Yes, but only with you! Since you've joined, you may know that one of the very first steps had been to ask for a mailing list and draft a wiki page [1]. That time, it had been decided to unify both Visual Design, and User Experience related topics. So, currently we talk about ... LibreOffice Design Team. Make it just work, and look great, too! But where to start? Well, I drafted a proposal and I'd like to hear your comments if this fits - in general. Details, e.g. how we solved this or that within OpenOffice.org might be added later, I think. But for now, please have a look at the list and add stuff you might to see / talk about as well. Steps: 1. Invite people who want to join / listen via a blog posting and on TDF discuss -- nobody should be missed 2. Summarize the current status of work / collaboration within the LibreOffice project -- get an overview what happened until now 3. Do some introduction to get to know each other -- guess why :-) 4. Collection of thoughts what we do need to organize / to do our work 5. Working on the urgent needs of our current project -- e.g. there have been requests to feed the development ;-) 6. Planning how to collect and to prioritize the future tasks -- think about what we want to archive mid- and long-term 7. Kick of one or more serious projects ... Anything missing, misleading, or even wrong? Please raise your hand :-) If you think it'll work, then we'll start. What do you think? See you, Christoph [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
