Re: GNOME Games split

2012-11-08 Thread Thomas H.P. Andersen
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 17 October 2012 21:08, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Robert Ancell robert.anc...@gmail.com wrote:and thus easiest

  So, I think we should decide based on the following:
  - A range of games that cover easy games that children can play to
  difficult puzzles suitable for adults.
  - Games that are modern and fun
  - A small enough set that can be effectively maintained and improved
  to keep standard high
  - A small enough set that can be effectively browsed from the shell

 When I looked at this last, I came up with the shortlist of aisleriot,
 sudoku, iagno and tetravex. These seem to cover the categories you
 describe above. They also have concepts that are clear and easy to
 pick up. While people might like mines, I don't think it makes a good
 default game: it seems rather archaic.


  I guess this needs to be finished - I say since no opposition then just let
 the design team (i.e. Allan) here decide. I would suggest reconsidering
 mahjongg, imo it's one of the nicer looking games and it plays the best on
 touch devices. Thomas - do you want to update jhbuild?

Sure I can do that this week. Allan, is the list final?
___
desktop-devel-list mailing list
desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list


Re: Gnome platform overview

2012-11-08 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 14:52 +0100, Pierre-Yves Luyten wrote:

 I was quickly looking at gnome platform overview on
 http://developer.gnome.org/
 or dedicated http://developer.gnome.org/platform-overview/stable/
 or http://developer.gnome.org/platform-overview/unstable/
 
 
 No gnome-online-account, zapojit, libgdata appear.
 I thought that I would find these in platform overview since they are 
 both part of the core gnome user experience and documented API.

You are completely correct.

The Platform Overview is getting a bit stale, and it would definitely be
good to update it with newer modules or pieces of public infrastructure.
If you feel familiar enough with the modules you mentioned, would you be
able to write a patch for the platform overview document?  The source is
at git://git.gnome.org/git/gnome-devel-docs (although I'm not sure about
the platform-overview vs. new-platform-overview in that module - the
latter seems a Mallard translation of the former).

  Federico

___
desktop-devel-list mailing list
desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list


Re: Gnome platform overview

2012-11-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 09:36 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
 On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 14:52 +0100, Pierre-Yves Luyten wrote:
 
  I was quickly looking at gnome platform overview on
  http://developer.gnome.org/
  or dedicated http://developer.gnome.org/platform-overview/stable/
  or http://developer.gnome.org/platform-overview/unstable/
  
  
  No gnome-online-account, zapojit, libgdata appear.
  I thought that I would find these in platform overview since they are 
  both part of the core gnome user experience and documented API.
 
 You are completely correct.
 
 The Platform Overview is getting a bit stale, and it would definitely be
 good to update it with newer modules or pieces of public infrastructure.
 If you feel familiar enough with the modules you mentioned, would you be
 able to write a patch for the platform overview document?  The source is
 at git://git.gnome.org/git/gnome-devel-docs (although I'm not sure about
 the platform-overview vs. new-platform-overview in that module - the
 latter seems a Mallard translation of the former).

They're both in Mallard. The new Platform Overview was started by Phil
to give us something a bit stronger than a module listing, which is
what the Platform Overview has fallen into since about 3.0.

To the original question: we have always had the problem of deciding
what goes into the PO. Is it the core, stable libraries? Everything
we use anywhere? Do we include non-GObject stuff that we nonetheless
heavily use? I'd never heard of zapojit before now. Is this something
we expect a lot of developers to use?

(First hit when I search online is the reference manual on developer.
That's good. The first screenful on that page doesn't tell me what to
use zapojit for. It tells me about its license. That's not good.)

--
Shaun


___
desktop-devel-list mailing list
desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list


Re: Gnome platform overview

2012-11-08 Thread Debarshi Ray
 No gnome-online-account, zapojit, libgdata appear.
 I thought that I would find these in platform overview since they are 
 both part of the core gnome user experience and documented API.

 [...]
 
 To the original question: we have always had the problem of deciding
 what goes into the PO. Is it the core, stable libraries? Everything
 we use anywhere? Do we include non-GObject stuff that we nonetheless
 heavily use?

Exactly. Moreover, it is not clear to me if we want 3rd parties to use GOA
or not. While it would give better integration with the platform (ie. GNOME)
if they do, there are concerns about diluting the GNOME brand.

 I'd never heard of zapojit before now. Is this something
 we expect a lot of developers to use?

The answer to that is the same as the answer for libgdata, with the exception
that libzapojit is not meant to be API/ABI stable yet. After all it is 2 weeks
old. :-)

 (First hit when I search online is the reference manual on developer.
 That's good. The first screenful on that page doesn't tell me what to
 use zapojit for. It tells me about its license. That's not good.)

Scroll down a bit and it becomes pretty clear, but yes, you are right. It
can be improved.

Happy hacking,
Debarshi

-- 
There are two hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming
things and off-by-one errors.


pgpgy9ZHn7o61.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
desktop-devel-list mailing list
desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: 3.8 feature: Drop or Fix Fallback Mode

2012-11-08 Thread Ma Xiaojun
A decision is made? The result is dropping?

I'm still using GNOME Fallback to run a reasonable Ubuntu 12.10 using
Fallback session.

Any bugs that GNOME Fallback even harms GNOME Shell?
___
desktop-devel-list mailing list
desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list


Re: 3.8 feature: Drop or Fix Fallback Mode

2012-11-08 Thread Ma Xiaojun
I'm still using GNOME Fallback to run a reasonable Ubuntu 12.10 inside
VirtualBox.
___
desktop-devel-list mailing list
desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list