Re: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
A great big +1. With Ivy, we decided that having a separate users mailing list made sense but that we were better off having a single developers mailing list for both projects. I suggest we do the same again with EasyAnt assuming the vote is successful this time, unless the EasyAnt committers would prefer to remain separate. On 27/02/2013 10:44 AM, Nicolas Lalevée wrote: So, should we accept EasyAnt as a subproject ? Please, cast your votes: [ ] +1, I accept [ ] +0, OK, but…. [ ] -1, I disapprove, because…. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org
RE: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
Hi, I didn't know that EasyAnt is still alive. EasyAnt might be exactly what we are looking for in a solution to modularize our build system and software. Some questions: Is there a more up-to-date documentation than the one at http://incubator.apache.org/easyant/history/trunk/reference.html?From skimming through (and besides there a quite a few obvious mistakes in it) it seems to refer to a release prior to 0.9. Also: How large is the community of EasyAnt, are there any references for software projects using it? (I tried to get an idea for that by searching for EasyAnt on stackoverflow, but that didn't turn out well.) Thanks a lot Tim Enderling -Original Message- From: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org] Sent: Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2013 19:44 To: Ant Developers List Subject: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2 Hi, This is the come back of the proposal of bringing EasyAnt under the umbrella of the Ant PMC. There were some discussion on incubator-general about the incubating hcatalog project being graduated under the umbrella of the Hive PMC. I think that our case is more clear and more standard regarding the ASF rules, but I'll remind here what is at stake, so there is no misunderstanding (I include myself on the potentially misunderstanding people). EasyAnt code will be brought into Ant's svn tree. EasyAnt committers will become Ant committers but not part of the PMC (on 5 committers, 3 are already Ant ones, and 2 are part of Ant's PMC) The Ant PMC will be responsible for the code, the community, the next releases of EasyAnt. Just like for Ivy. And I like the way it worked. Further more considering my path, I think it is good that there is no special right management in svn. I started as an IvyDE committer, I ended improving myself Ivy and Ant. Since the last vote tentative, the activity on EasyAnt remained the same, somehow low but continuous, not much less than Ant developers activity. And lately we succeeded to get a release out. To get yourself an opinion, here are some links: - the EasyAnt project incubator page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/easyant.html - the archive of the mailing lists http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-commits/ http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-dev/ - the release http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/easyant So, should we accept EasyAnt as a subproject ? Please, cast your votes: [ ] +1, I accept [ ] +0, OK, but.. [ ] -1, I disapprove, because.. Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
We will publish a updated documentation soon (probably tonight). Currently, the community is really small as prior releases was using patched version of Ant and Ivy (mainly to introduce missing features sur as extensionPoints in Ant, or module inheritence in Ivy). This was probably a major issue, and explain why we didn't communicate too much outside of ant-dev mailing list about it. We've made lot of work to contribute back our modifications to both tools and we now use official releases. In future we plan to bring more valuable features to both Ant and Ivy. This is one of the main reason motivating us to enter in ASF. In the meantime we changed a lot of structuring stuff in easyant itself to remain flexible and easier to use. This release is a huge step for the project. And it's now time to promote EasyAnt as a usable tool and to widen the community. Your feedback will be really appreciated. 2013/2/28 Tim Enderling t.enderl...@intershop.de Hi, I didn't know that EasyAnt is still alive. EasyAnt might be exactly what we are looking for in a solution to modularize our build system and software. Some questions: Is there a more up-to-date documentation than the one at http://incubator.apache.org/easyant/history/trunk/reference.html?Fromskimming through (and besides there a quite a few obvious mistakes in it) it seems to refer to a release prior to 0.9. Also: How large is the community of EasyAnt, are there any references for software projects using it? (I tried to get an idea for that by searching for EasyAnt on stackoverflow, but that didn't turn out well.) Thanks a lot Tim Enderling -Original Message- From: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org] Sent: Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2013 19:44 To: Ant Developers List Subject: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2 Hi, This is the come back of the proposal of bringing EasyAnt under the umbrella of the Ant PMC. There were some discussion on incubator-general about the incubating hcatalog project being graduated under the umbrella of the Hive PMC. I think that our case is more clear and more standard regarding the ASF rules, but I'll remind here what is at stake, so there is no misunderstanding (I include myself on the potentially misunderstanding people). EasyAnt code will be brought into Ant's svn tree. EasyAnt committers will become Ant committers but not part of the PMC (on 5 committers, 3 are already Ant ones, and 2 are part of Ant's PMC) The Ant PMC will be responsible for the code, the community, the next releases of EasyAnt. Just like for Ivy. And I like the way it worked. Further more considering my path, I think it is good that there is no special right management in svn. I started as an IvyDE committer, I ended improving myself Ivy and Ant. Since the last vote tentative, the activity on EasyAnt remained the same, somehow low but continuous, not much less than Ant developers activity. And lately we succeeded to get a release out. To get yourself an opinion, here are some links: - the EasyAnt project incubator page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/easyant.html - the archive of the mailing lists http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-commits/ http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-dev/ - the release http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/easyant So, should we accept EasyAnt as a subproject ? Please, cast your votes: [ ] +1, I accept [ ] +0, OK, but.. [ ] -1, I disapprove, because.. Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org -- Jean Louis Boudart Independent consultant Apache EasyAnt commiter http://incubator.apache.org/easyant/
RE: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
Hi, that's great news! We will we very happy to provide you with feedback. Best Regards, Tim PS: Odd thing aside: I worked on a company intern concept to modularize Ant builds of software enriched with Ivy-meta data for a few months now (without tying us to Maven). Not knowing that there was EasyAnt and working on the basis of only Ant and Ivy I came to very similar conclusions regarding the design. Some of the technical details are even identical! - like providing paths to artifacts of a build module's dependencies in Ant paths like acme#foo.foo.properties.file to use them in Ant imports/includes. And I already stumbled upon the extension you brought into Ant and Ivy and was going to rely on them, not knowing where they actually came from. I'm very pleased to see, that someone has shared my thoughts and brought them a lot further :-) -Original Message- From: Jean-Louis Boudart [mailto:jeanlouis.boud...@gmail.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2013 12:05 To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2 We will publish a updated documentation soon (probably tonight). Currently, the community is really small as prior releases was using patched version of Ant and Ivy (mainly to introduce missing features sur as extensionPoints in Ant, or module inheritence in Ivy). This was probably a major issue, and explain why we didn't communicate too much outside of ant-dev mailing list about it. We've made lot of work to contribute back our modifications to both tools and we now use official releases. In future we plan to bring more valuable features to both Ant and Ivy. This is one of the main reason motivating us to enter in ASF. In the meantime we changed a lot of structuring stuff in easyant itself to remain flexible and easier to use. This release is a huge step for the project. And it's now time to promote EasyAnt as a usable tool and to widen the community. Your feedback will be really appreciated. 2013/2/28 Tim Enderling t.enderl...@intershop.de Hi, I didn't know that EasyAnt is still alive. EasyAnt might be exactly what we are looking for in a solution to modularize our build system and software. Some questions: Is there a more up-to-date documentation than the one at http://incubator.apache.org/easyant/history/trunk/reference.html?Fromskimmi ng through (and besides there a quite a few obvious mistakes in it) it seems to refer to a release prior to 0.9. Also: How large is the community of EasyAnt, are there any references for software projects using it? (I tried to get an idea for that by searching for EasyAnt on stackoverflow, but that didn't turn out well.) Thanks a lot Tim Enderling -Original Message- From: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org] Sent: Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2013 19:44 To: Ant Developers List Subject: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2 Hi, This is the come back of the proposal of bringing EasyAnt under the umbrella of the Ant PMC. There were some discussion on incubator-general about the incubating hcatalog project being graduated under the umbrella of the Hive PMC. I think that our case is more clear and more standard regarding the ASF rules, but I'll remind here what is at stake, so there is no misunderstanding (I include myself on the potentially misunderstanding people). EasyAnt code will be brought into Ant's svn tree. EasyAnt committers will become Ant committers but not part of the PMC (on 5 committers, 3 are already Ant ones, and 2 are part of Ant's PMC) The Ant PMC will be responsible for the code, the community, the next releases of EasyAnt. Just like for Ivy. And I like the way it worked. Further more considering my path, I think it is good that there is no special right management in svn. I started as an IvyDE committer, I ended improving myself Ivy and Ant. Since the last vote tentative, the activity on EasyAnt remained the same, somehow low but continuous, not much less than Ant developers activity. And lately we succeeded to get a release out. To get yourself an opinion, here are some links: - the EasyAnt project incubator page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/easyant.html - the archive of the mailing lists http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-commits/ http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-dev/ - the release http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/easyant So, should we accept EasyAnt as a subproject ? Please, cast your votes: [ ] +1, I accept [ ] +0, OK, but.. [ ] -1, I disapprove, because.. Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
[x] +1, I accept 2013/2/27 Nicolas Lalevée nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org Hi, This is the come back of the proposal of bringing EasyAnt under the umbrella of the Ant PMC. There were some discussion on incubator-general about the incubating hcatalog project being graduated under the umbrella of the Hive PMC. I think that our case is more clear and more standard regarding the ASF rules, but I'll remind here what is at stake, so there is no misunderstanding (I include myself on the potentially misunderstanding people). EasyAnt code will be brought into Ant's svn tree. EasyAnt committers will become Ant committers but not part of the PMC (on 5 committers, 3 are already Ant ones, and 2 are part of Ant's PMC) The Ant PMC will be responsible for the code, the community, the next releases of EasyAnt. Just like for Ivy. And I like the way it worked. Further more considering my path, I think it is good that there is no special right management in svn. I started as an IvyDE committer, I ended improving myself Ivy and Ant. Since the last vote tentative, the activity on EasyAnt remained the same, somehow low but continuous, not much less than Ant developers activity. And lately we succeeded to get a release out. To get yourself an opinion, here are some links: - the EasyAnt project incubator page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/easyant.html - the archive of the mailing lists http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-commits/ http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-dev/ - the release http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/easyant So, should we accept EasyAnt as a subproject ? Please, cast your votes: [ ] +1, I accept [ ] +0, OK, but…. [ ] -1, I disapprove, because…. Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org -- Jean Louis Boudart Independent consultant Apache EasyAnt commiter http://incubator.apache.org/easyant/
Re: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
+1 Antoine On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Nicolas Lalevée wrote: Hi, This is the come back of the proposal of bringing EasyAnt under the umbrella of the Ant PMC. There were some discussion on incubator-general about the incubating hcatalog project being graduated under the umbrella of the Hive PMC. I think that our case is more clear and more standard regarding the ASF rules, but I'll remind here what is at stake, so there is no misunderstanding (I include myself on the potentially misunderstanding people). EasyAnt code will be brought into Ant's svn tree. EasyAnt committers will become Ant committers but not part of the PMC (on 5 committers, 3 are already Ant ones, and 2 are part of Ant's PMC) The Ant PMC will be responsible for the code, the community, the next releases of EasyAnt. Just like for Ivy. And I like the way it worked. Further more considering my path, I think it is good that there is no special right management in svn. I started as an IvyDE committer, I ended improving myself Ivy and Ant. Since the last vote tentative, the activity on EasyAnt remained the same, somehow low but continuous, not much less than Ant developers activity. And lately we succeeded to get a release out. To get yourself an opinion, here are some links: - the EasyAnt project incubator page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/easyant.html - the archive of the mailing lists http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-commits/ http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-dev/ - the release http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/easyant So, should we accept EasyAnt as a subproject ? Please, cast your votes: [ ] +1, I accept [ ] +0, OK, but…. [ ] -1, I disapprove, because…. Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
+1 Nicolas Le 27 févr. 2013 à 19:44, Nicolas Lalevée nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org a écrit : Hi, This is the come back of the proposal of bringing EasyAnt under the umbrella of the Ant PMC. There were some discussion on incubator-general about the incubating hcatalog project being graduated under the umbrella of the Hive PMC. I think that our case is more clear and more standard regarding the ASF rules, but I'll remind here what is at stake, so there is no misunderstanding (I include myself on the potentially misunderstanding people). EasyAnt code will be brought into Ant's svn tree. EasyAnt committers will become Ant committers but not part of the PMC (on 5 committers, 3 are already Ant ones, and 2 are part of Ant's PMC) The Ant PMC will be responsible for the code, the community, the next releases of EasyAnt. Just like for Ivy. And I like the way it worked. Further more considering my path, I think it is good that there is no special right management in svn. I started as an IvyDE committer, I ended improving myself Ivy and Ant. Since the last vote tentative, the activity on EasyAnt remained the same, somehow low but continuous, not much less than Ant developers activity. And lately we succeeded to get a release out. To get yourself an opinion, here are some links: - the EasyAnt project incubator page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/easyant.html - the archive of the mailing lists http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-commits/ http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-dev/ - the release http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/easyant So, should we accept EasyAnt as a subproject ? Please, cast your votes: [ ] +1, I accept [ ] +0, OK, but…. [ ] -1, I disapprove, because…. Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
+1 Maarten From: Nicolas Lalevée nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org To: Ant Developers List dev@ant.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:44 PM Subject: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2 Hi, This is the come back of the proposal of bringing EasyAnt under the umbrella of the Ant PMC. There were some discussion on incubator-general about the incubating hcatalog project being graduated under the umbrella of the Hive PMC. I think that our case is more clear and more standard regarding the ASF rules, but I'll remind here what is at stake, so there is no misunderstanding (I include myself on the potentially misunderstanding people). EasyAnt code will be brought into Ant's svn tree. EasyAnt committers will become Ant committers but not part of the PMC (on 5 committers, 3 are already Ant ones, and 2 are part of Ant's PMC) The Ant PMC will be responsible for the code, the community, the next releases of EasyAnt. Just like for Ivy. And I like the way it worked. Further more considering my path, I think it is good that there is no special right management in svn. I started as an IvyDE committer, I ended improving myself Ivy and Ant. Since the last vote tentative, the activity on EasyAnt remained the same, somehow low but continuous, not much less than Ant developers activity. And lately we succeeded to get a release out. To get yourself an opinion, here are some links: - the EasyAnt project incubator page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/easyant.html - the archive of the mailing lists http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-commits/ http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-dev/ - the release http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/easyant So, should we accept EasyAnt as a subproject ? Please, cast your votes: [ ] +1, I accept [ ] +0, OK, but…. [ ] -1, I disapprove, because…. Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org
