split off or mark docu commits

2012-05-07 Thread Guenter Knauf
I'm really happy that our docu receives such great attention recently 
and is going to become much better as it seems ...


but due to the huge amount of commit messages I am no longer able to 
review *code* commit messages quickly when I have to pick 3 code commits 
out of 300 docu commits.
I would really like that we either split off the commit messages into a 
separate docu-commit list, or at least mark them with an additional

X-Committype:  docu
or something like that so that its possible to easily filter them.

Gün.




Re: split off or mark docu commits

2012-05-07 Thread Igor Galić


- Original Message -
 I'm really happy that our docu receives such great attention recently
 and is going to become much better as it seems ...

 but due to the huge amount of commit messages I am no longer able to
 review *code* commit messages quickly when I have to pick 3 code
 commits
 out of 300 docu commits.
 I would really like that we either split off the commit messages into
 a
 separate docu-commit list, or at least mark them with an additional
 X-Committype:  docu
 or something like that so that its possible to easily filter them.

An easy way would be to filter out stuff has docs/manual/ or
site/ in the subject. But it's not going to be very accurate:
Some people like to commit code changes along with the appropriate
docs changes..

 Gün.

i

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Re: split off or mark docu commits

2012-05-07 Thread Igor Galić

  separate docu-commit list, or at least mark them with an additional
  X-Committype:  docu
  or something like that so that its possible to easily filter them.

 An easy way would be to filter out stuff has docs/manual/ or
 site/ in the subject. But it's not going to be very accurate:
 Some people like to commit code changes along with the appropriate
 docs changes..

right now you're probably best off to filter out
humbedooh, joes, rbowen, buildbot and igalic.

  Gün.

 i


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Re: [DISCUSS] CMS site migration

2012-05-07 Thread Rich Bowen
Joe, thanks for your work on this, and your patience through the process.

--Rich

On May 6, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

 Over on docs@ one of the recent conversations was
 around moving the site documentation to the CMS,
 starting first with the httpd site as a testbed.
 After several hours of hacking on the site that
 has now been accomplished, so we'd please like everyone
 to review and comment on the httpd staging site now
 available at 
 
 http://httpd.staging.apache.org/
 
 which is perfectly compatible with the CMS's bookmarklet.
 There are a few remaining syntax/style issues that need
 addressing, but otherwise the content has been successfully
 migrated from xdoc to markdown.
 
 The sooner we can push this work into production the
 less hassle it will be to keep the xdoc and content
 trees in sync using two separate build systems.
 
 After a few days have passed if there are no outstanding
 issues remaining I plan to ask for a VOTE to finish the
 migration of httpd-site to the CMS.  Thanks in advance
 for your consideration!
 
 
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Re: [DISCUSS] CMS site migration

2012-05-07 Thread Brian J. France
Do you have details on the on the new CMS, format, conversions, etc?  We us the 
httpd current format at work for our internal modules and might want to 
transition to the CMS as well.

Thanks,

Brian

On May 6, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

 Over on docs@ one of the recent conversations was
 around moving the site documentation to the CMS,
 starting first with the httpd site as a testbed.
 After several hours of hacking on the site that
 has now been accomplished, so we'd please like everyone
 to review and comment on the httpd staging site now
 available at 
 
 http://httpd.staging.apache.org/
 
 which is perfectly compatible with the CMS's bookmarklet.
 There are a few remaining syntax/style issues that need
 addressing, but otherwise the content has been successfully
 migrated from xdoc to markdown.
 
 The sooner we can push this work into production the
 less hassle it will be to keep the xdoc and content
 trees in sync using two separate build systems.
 
 After a few days have passed if there are no outstanding
 issues remaining I plan to ask for a VOTE to finish the
 migration of httpd-site to the CMS.  Thanks in advance
 for your consideration!
 
 



[Result] Re: [Vote] Add commentary system to httpd docs

2012-05-07 Thread Daniel Gruno
With an impressive 8 x +1 binding votes and no -1's, as well as +2 from
other docs@ readers, I believe we can call this vote passed with flying
colors :).

We will begin rolling out the commentary system in the trunk docs
shortly, and then we'll see where the wind of the web takes us.

I suspect I'll be following up on this with some discussions on the more
specific details of how we should run this comment system later this
week, but for now, let's just enjoy it for a few days, and see how it
plays out.

The current questions we need to discuss can be found at
http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DocsCommentSystem#Questions_for_further_discussion
so do give them a read-through and add a question or two if you have any.


With regards and humble thanks for your support,
Daniel

On 04-05-2012 15:58, Daniel Gruno wrote:
 I'll be a bad boy and top-post on this reply, as well as add dev@ to the
 list of recipients.
 
 In docs@, we have been discussing the possibility of adding comments to
 the various pages in our documentation. As the discussion has
 progressed, we have settled on the idea of trying out Disqus as a
 commentary system for the documentation, and I have authored a proposal
 on the practical implementation of this.
 
 As this is a rather large change to the documentation (if passed), Eric
 Covener advised me to notify both mailing lists as well as give a bit
 more information on how exactly this will work and why we felt it was a
 good idea to try out a commenting system. That information is located at
 http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DocsCommentSystem
 
 We have, to give it a test spin, rolled out these proposed changed to
 the rewrite section of the trunk documentation,
 http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/rewrite/ (do note that the
 mod_rewrite reference document is NOT a part of this test), and we'd
 very much like you to review these changes and let us know what you
 think of this solution. If everybody is happy about it, we can try to
 roll it out on a bit more pages, and see how it is received by the
 general population.
 
 So, I am calling a vote on whether or not to proceed with rolling out
 this test to a portion of our trunk documentation for further testing.
 
 
 [+/-1] Add commentary system to the trunk documentation.
 
 With regards,
 Daniel.
 


Re: [DISCUSS] CMS site migration

2012-05-07 Thread Joe Schaefer
See http://www.apache/org/dev/cms and 

http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref for details
on the CMS.



- Original Message -
 From: Brian J. France br...@brianfrance.com
 To: dev@httpd.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
 Cc: d...@httpd.apache.org d...@httpd.apache.org
 Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 8:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CMS site migration
 
 Do you have details on the on the new CMS, format, conversions, etc?  We us 
 the 
 httpd current format at work for our internal modules and might want to 
 transition to the CMS as well.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brian
 
 On May 6, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
 
  Over on docs@ one of the recent conversations was
  around moving the site documentation to the CMS,
  starting first with the httpd site as a testbed.
  After several hours of hacking on the site that
  has now been accomplished, so we'd please like everyone
  to review and comment on the httpd staging site now
  available at 
 
      http://httpd.staging.apache.org/
 
  which is perfectly compatible with the CMS's bookmarklet.
  There are a few remaining syntax/style issues that need
  addressing, but otherwise the content has been successfully
  migrated from xdoc to markdown.
 
  The sooner we can push this work into production the
  less hassle it will be to keep the xdoc and content
  trees in sync using two separate build systems.
 
  After a few days have passed if there are no outstanding
  issues remaining I plan to ask for a VOTE to finish the
  migration of httpd-site to the CMS.  Thanks in advance
  for your consideration!
 
 



Re: [DISCUSS] CMS site migration

2012-05-07 Thread Christophe JAILLET
First link should be : http://www.apache.org/dev/cms 
http://www.apache.org/dev/cms


Le 07/05/2012 16:58, Joe Schaefer a écrit :

See http://www.apache/org/dev/cms and

http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref for details
on the CMS.



- Original Message -

From: Brian J. Francebr...@brianfrance.com
To: dev@httpd.apache.org; Joe Schaeferjoe_schae...@yahoo.com
Cc: d...@httpd.apache.orgd...@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CMS site migration

Do you have details on the on the new CMS, format, conversions, etc?  We us the
httpd current format at work for our internal modules and might want to
transition to the CMS as well.

Thanks,

Brian

On May 6, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:


  Over on docs@ one of the recent conversations was
  around moving the site documentation to the CMS,
  starting first with the httpd site as a testbed.
  After several hours of hacking on the site that
  has now been accomplished, so we'd please like everyone
  to review and comment on the httpd staging site now
  available at

  http://httpd.staging.apache.org/

  which is perfectly compatible with the CMS's bookmarklet.
  There are a few remaining syntax/style issues that need
  addressing, but otherwise the content has been successfully
  migrated from xdoc to markdown.

  The sooner we can push this work into production the
  less hassle it will be to keep the xdoc and content
  trees in sync using two separate build systems.

  After a few days have passed if there are no outstanding
  issues remaining I plan to ask for a VOTE to finish the
  migration of httpd-site to the CMS.  Thanks in advance
  for your consideration!






Re: are the *.exp files still used by any platform?

2012-05-07 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 5/1/2012 4:00 PM, Guenter Knauf wrote:
 Hi Eric,
 Am 01.05.2012 16:30, schrieb Eric Covener:
 Even 2.0 seems to just generate libmod_foo.exp then pass the generated
 file to the linker, but I wouldn't go out of your way removing them
 from 2.0 and 2.2 if they aren't bothering anyone.
 hmmm, so you say axe from 2.4.x/HEAD but keep ìn 2.2.x and 2.0.x?? Why keep
 non-used/non-functional files?
 Not that the files do bother me in any way, and I dont care about - but now 
 since we found
 they are obsolete why not clean them up?

Because that would be another diff that the reviewer needs to substantiate.
Maintenance branches should only have necessary, not cosmetic maintenance.
This is why it is evil to do major whitespace corrections on those branches,
it just muddies the picture for the rest of us.



Re: Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64 while building 2.4.2

2012-05-07 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 5/1/2012 7:03 PM, Fred Moyer wrote:
 On OS X 10.7, gcc 4.2.1, with apr-1.4.5 and apr-util 1.4.1, I
 encounter the following error attempting to build httpd 2.4.2. I
 didn't see any architecture specific code in
 srclib/apr/include/apr_file_info.h. Any thoughts?
 
 ./configure --prefix=/Users/phred/dev/httpd24 --enable-so --with-included-apr
 
 make
 ...
 
 gcc -std=gnu99 -g -O2 -DDARWIN -DSIGPROCMASK_SETS_THREAD_MASK
 -no-cpp-precomp -DDARWIN_10-I.
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/os/unix
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/include
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/srclib/apr/include
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/srclib/apr-util/include
 -I/usr/local/include -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/aaa
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/cache
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/core
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/database
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/filters
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/ldap
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/loggers
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/lua
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/proxy
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/session
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/ssl
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/test
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/server
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/arch/unix
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/dav/main
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/generators
 -I/Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/modules/mappers  -c
 /Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/server/buildmark.c
 /Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/srclib/apr/libtool --silent --mode=link
 gcc -std=gnu99 -g -O2-o httpd  modules.lo buildmark.o
 -export-dynamic server/libmain.la modules/core/libmod_so.la
 modules/http/libmod_http.la server/mpm/event/libevent.la
 os/unix/libos.la -L/usr/local/lib -lpcre
 /Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/srclib/apr-util/libaprutil-1.la -lexpat
 -liconv /Users/phred/dev/httpd-2.4.2/srclib/apr/libapr-1.la -lpthread
 Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
   _apr_dir_open$INODE64, referenced from:
   _process_resource_config_nofnmatch in libmain.a(config.o)
   _process_resource_config_fnmatch in libmain.a(config.o)
   _apr_dir_read$INODE64, referenced from:
   _process_resource_config_nofnmatch in libmain.a(config.o)
   _process_resource_config_fnmatch in libmain.a(config.o)
   _apr_file_info_get$INODE64, referenced from:
   _ap_pcfg_openfile in libmain.a(util.o)
   _file_func in libmain.a(util_expr_eval.o)
   _apr_stat$INODE64, referenced from:
   _check_errorlog_dir in libmain.a(core.o)
   _ap_process_fnmatch_configs in libmain.a(config.o)
   _ap_is_directory in libmain.a(util.o)
   _ap_is_rdirectory in libmain.a(util.o)
   _ap_mpm_set_coredumpdir in libmain.a(mpm_common.o)
   _ap_log_pid in libmain.a(log.o)
   _resolve_symlink in libmain.a(request.o)
   ...
 ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Symptomatic of trying to tweak your compile and link using CFLAGS which were 
compile only,
rather that setting CC=gcc -mXX which is also the default linker, I believe.  
If not,
you would want to set LD and LDSHARED appropriately.



Re: Status of Windows-work for 2.4.x

2012-05-07 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 5/3/2012 8:47 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
 I'm curious what the status of 2.4.x-on-Windows is... What else
 can we do to speed this along?

Can't speak for anyone but myself; I am just recovering from a month of 
changing machines
over and over again due to a dead critical/primary laptop.  Now that I have two 
(impressed
with the evolution of the Dell E6420, but absolutely wow'ed by the newest Sony 
SE series,
except for its two cores not four, and a sort-of-icky chicklet keyboard) I 
stand a chance
of now messing around with 2.4 branch and trunk once again.

I'm thinking of a simple patch; in -D APR_SOCKET_DEBUG build of apr, assert() 
on a recheck
of every on apr_os_sock_make().  If you inject a socket with ioctl flags in the 
wrong
default mode, it should just freak out.  This wouldn't be a release flag, of 
course but
should get us to the bottom of this flaw.



Re: [VOTE] change gen_test_char to compile without APR

2012-05-07 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
 Vote:
 [X] change gen_test_char.c to always compile without APR

for 2.4 forwards.


Re: [VOTE] change gen_test_char to compile without APR

2012-05-07 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 5/3/2012 10:39 AM, Guenter Knauf wrote:

 Vote:
 [x] change gen_test_char.c to always compile without APR
 [ ] leave it as it is because ...
 just for the records (and to pop up this again now one week latter) here's my 
 own vote;
 then so far sf, wrowe and me +1 for the change and nobody against within one 
 week; I'll
 patch later trunk, and update my backport proposals unless someone speaks up 
 now with
 something against.

If the output is nonvolatile, you should structure the make such that we should
conditionally build from the date stamps of the origin .c and output .c sources,
just as we already do for the mod_ssl bison/yacc -b generated lexars.


Re: [DISCUSS] CMS site migration

2012-05-07 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 5/6/2012 4:39 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
 Over on docs@ one of the recent conversations was
 around moving the site documentation to the CMS,
 starting first with the httpd site as a testbed.
 After several hours of hacking on the site that
 has now been accomplished, so we'd please like everyone
 to review and comment on the httpd staging site now
 available at 
 
 http://httpd.staging.apache.org/
 
 which is perfectly compatible with the CMS's bookmarklet.
 There are a few remaining syntax/style issues that need
 addressing, but otherwise the content has been successfully
 migrated from xdoc to markdown.
 
 The sooner we can push this work into production the
 less hassle it will be to keep the xdoc and content
 trees in sync using two separate build systems.
 
 After a few days have passed if there are no outstanding
 issues remaining I plan to ask for a VOTE to finish the
 migration of httpd-site to the CMS.  Thanks in advance
 for your consideration!

And thank you for letting httpd repay a bit of debt to infra.  Without the 
early staging
of httpd release candidates, we couldn't accomplish major things like 2.4 
revisions.