Re: svn commit: r158303 - httpd/httpd/trunk/buildconf

2005-03-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 06:38 PM 3/21/2005, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

Since moving to Subversion, having apr and apr-util at the same level as httpd
is my typical working copy layout, so I'm definitely +1 on this change.
srclib/apr and srclib/apr-util don't really make sense anymore, IMO.  -- justin

Yup, my srclib contains symlinks to apr-1.1 etc.  But they are
symlinks since my tree containing httpd-2.1, -2.0, -1.3 also 
contains apr-0.9, 1.0, 1.1 etc.

Given than apr-1.0.1 release unpacks as apr-1.0.1 I'm not that
comfortable making 'apr' and 'apr-util' path assumptions for 
the user.  I'd be much -more- comfortable assuming ../apr-1 and
../apr-util-1 assumptions.

FWIW the old layout didn't work that well under cvs, either.
Checkout on a tag tried to inflict the same tag on apr etc.

Bill




Re: svn commit: r158303 - httpd/httpd/trunk/buildconf

2005-03-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 11:11 PM 3/21/2005, Paul Querna wrote:

Yep, i was tried of passing --with-apr and --with-apr-util to ./buildconf -- 
this has nothing to do with ./config.nice, and I thought making a 
./buildconf.nice would of been a little excessive.

Of course!  Now I'm on the same page with you.  Actually,
I believe a buildconf.nice is a better solution (for reasons
in my other note.)  We really have no say-so about what is
sitting in the directory above our httpd snapshot.



Re: svn commit: r158303 - httpd/httpd/trunk/buildconf

2005-03-22 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:22 PM -0600 William A. Rowe, Jr. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Of course!  Now I'm on the same page with you.  Actually,
I believe a buildconf.nice is a better solution (for reasons
in my other note.)  We really have no say-so about what is
sitting in the directory above our httpd snapshot.
It only matters if the directory is present and contains the files we need. 
I just think a buildconf.nice would be overkill here.  -- justin


buildconf.nice, WAS: Re: svn commit: r158303 - httpd/httpd/trunk/buildconf

2005-03-22 Thread Sander Striker
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:22 PM -0600 William A. Rowe, Jr. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Of course!  Now I'm on the same page with you.  Actually,
I believe a buildconf.nice is a better solution (for reasons
in my other note.)  We really have no say-so about what is
sitting in the directory above our httpd snapshot.
It only matters if the directory is present and contains the files we 
need. I just think a buildconf.nice would be overkill here.  -- justin
I find myself agreeing with that...
Sander


Re: svn commit: r158303 - httpd/httpd/trunk/buildconf

2005-03-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 04:02 PM 3/22/2005, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:22 PM -0600 William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:

It only matters if the directory is present and contains the files we need. I 
just think a buildconf.nice would be overkill here.  -- justin

Are we certain ../apr/ doesn't contain apr 0.9?  If it does, will
we proceed with alternatives?

If so I can drop my objection, however silly I still think this is :)



Re: svn commit: r158303 - httpd/httpd/trunk/buildconf

2005-03-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 11:26 PM 3/19/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: pquerna
Date: Sat Mar 19 21:26:22 2005
New Revision: 158303

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=158303
Log:
Test for APR and APR-Util one directory bellow httpd too.  I like not having 
to put them inside srclib.

grumf I'm not keen on this change, since it complicates things
unnecessarily - some day we discover a tag and roll organized like 
this out of the blue?

Does config.nice not do what you want?  Especially if you rename
it config.me with all your absolute options that you don't tweak?



Re: svn commit: r158303 - httpd/httpd/trunk/buildconf

2005-03-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 05:19:56PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
 grumf I'm not keen on this change, since it complicates things
 unnecessarily - some day we discover a tag and roll organized like 
 this out of the blue?
 
 Does config.nice not do what you want?  Especially if you rename
 it config.me with all your absolute options that you don't tweak?

Since moving to Subversion, having apr and apr-util at the same level as httpd
is my typical working copy layout, so I'm definitely +1 on this change.
srclib/apr and srclib/apr-util don't really make sense anymore, IMO.  -- justin


Re: svn commit: r158303 - httpd/httpd/trunk/buildconf

2005-03-21 Thread Sander Striker
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
At 11:26 PM 3/19/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: pquerna
Date: Sat Mar 19 21:26:22 2005
New Revision: 158303
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=158303
Log:
Test for APR and APR-Util one directory bellow httpd too.  I like not having to 
put them inside srclib.

grumf I'm not keen on this change, since it complicates things
unnecessarily - some day we discover a tag and roll organized like 
this out of the blue?
What do you mean?  I thought that the future goal was to unbundle apr*
in httpd releases?  So you're afraid of tagged and rolled (actually only
rolled, since tags don't include apr* anyway) tarballs that don't
contain srclib/apr* before we actually wish to unbundle?  Isn't that
the RM's responsibility?
Does config.nice not do what you want?  Especially if you rename
it config.me with all your absolute options that you don't tweak?
I don't see how that would help towards the unbundling goal.  Also for
development purposes it's way more convenient to allow apr* next to
httpd as to require it be in srclib/.
Sander



Re: svn commit: r158303 - httpd/httpd/trunk/buildconf

2005-03-21 Thread Paul Querna
Sander Striker wrote:
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
At 11:26 PM 3/19/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: pquerna
Date: Sat Mar 19 21:26:22 2005
New Revision: 158303
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=158303
Log:
Test for APR and APR-Util one directory bellow httpd too.  I like not 
having to put them inside srclib.

grumf I'm not keen on this change, since it complicates things
unnecessarily - some day we discover a tag and roll organized like 
this out of the blue?

What do you mean?  I thought that the future goal was to unbundle apr*
in httpd releases?  So you're afraid of tagged and rolled (actually only
rolled, since tags don't include apr* anyway) tarballs that don't
contain srclib/apr* before we actually wish to unbundle?  Isn't that
the RM's responsibility?
My feeling is that it is the RM's responsibility.  It does tell you 
which APR/APR-Util path it is using, so it doesn't leave you completely 
clueless.

Does config.nice not do what you want?  Especially if you rename
it config.me with all your absolute options that you don't tweak?

I don't see how that would help towards the unbundling goal.  Also for
development purposes it's way more convenient to allow apr* next to
httpd as to require it be in srclib/.
Yep, i was tried of passing --with-apr and --with-apr-util to 
./buildconf -- this has nothing to do with ./config.nice, and I thought 
making a ./buildconf.nice would of been a little excessive.

-Paul