Re: [ cf-dev ] OT- Style Sheets

2004-09-28 Thread Damian Watson
Don't you want a class then that is different from the default i.e.:
a href=abc class=classNameFollow this link/a
Then in your stylesheet something like:
a.className{
   yourStyles: xyz;
}
...and make sure it comes after your default style.
d
Paul Swingewood wrote:
I have a style sheet which defines the link colour.
I want to switch it off for a certainlink only
a href=abcFollow this link/a
What do I need to put in the line above to do this ...STYLE??
Regards - Paul


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Re: [ cf-dev ] OT- Style Sheets

2004-09-28 Thread Damian Watson
well you can use style={yourStyles:abc;} but this is not supported cross 
browser i.e. not Firefox, Netscrape etc..

Paul Swingewood wrote:
Yeah. I just seem to remeber there was a quick way of doing this in 
the link line without having to create another class.

Just being lazy I guess
Regards - Paul

From: Damian Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] OT- Style Sheets
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:27:36 +0100
Don't you want a class then that is different from the default i.e.:
a href=abc class=classNameFollow this link/a
Then in your stylesheet something like:
a.className{
   yourStyles: xyz;
}
...and make sure it comes after your default style.
d
Paul Swingewood wrote:
I have a style sheet which defines the link colour.
I want to switch it off for a certainlink only
a href=abcFollow this link/a
What do I need to put in the line above to do this ...STYLE??
Regards - Paul


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Re: [ cf-dev ] OT- Style Sheets

2004-09-28 Thread Damian Watson
It has come to my attention that that post of mine should be ignored! 
It's the curly brackets those borwsers don't like!

doh
Damian Watson wrote:
well you can use style={yourStyles:abc;} but this is not supported 
cross browser i.e. not Firefox, Netscrape etc..

Paul Swingewood wrote:
Yeah. I just seem to remeber there was a quick way of doing this in 
the link line without having to create another class.

Just being lazy I guess
Regards - Paul

From: Damian Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] OT- Style Sheets
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:27:36 +0100
Don't you want a class then that is different from the default i.e.:
a href=abc class=classNameFollow this link/a
Then in your stylesheet something like:
a.className{
   yourStyles: xyz;
}
...and make sure it comes after your default style.
d
Paul Swingewood wrote:
I have a style sheet which defines the link colour.
I want to switch it off for a certainlink only
a href=abcFollow this link/a
What do I need to put in the line above to do this ...STYLE??
Regards - Paul


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Re: [ cf-dev ] Multi-posts

2004-09-22 Thread Damian Watson
Hey Richard, could you  possibly turn your read receipt off!
;)
Lovelock, Richard J wrote:
no
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Regards,
  Richard Lovelock
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Subject: [ cf-dev ] Multi-posts
Is it just me or is anyone else getting 2 copies of each post?
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Multiple page questionnaires

2004-09-10 Thread Damian Watson
Thanks Duncan, that's given me some ideas ;) Going to have to be the 2nd 
of the three I think- it's a very long questionnaire so I guess using 
session structs may lose some users after timeout

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. pass the information between pages with hidden form fields.  this method
is probably fine, although if your form has quite a few pages and fields,
you'll end up with lots of hidden fields.  if you also go back to the
previous page if there's an error in the form (e.g. they've left a field
blank), you'll have to pass all this information back too.
2.  store the form information in a table.  either this could be a
temporary store, which then gets deleted after form completion or
periodically, or it could be the actual table the form results are meant to
end up in.  if your form is created dynamically, you'll need to have a
table flexible enough to allow for various types of answers
(text/numeric/longtext/boolean etc).  probably the most potentially
difficult way of doing it IMHO.
3. store the information in a structure in the session.  probably the
simplest way to do it.  then at the end of the form, just transfer this
structure to an email/database/whatever.

   
   Damian Watson   
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 Subject: [ cf-dev ] Multiple page questionnaires  
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Hi,
Anyone got good pointers/ tips/ resources for creating multiple page
forms i.e. a registration process with several stages... ?? What to look
out for, pitfalls etc etc
d
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Multiple page questionnaires

2004-09-10 Thread Damian Watson
Exactly, the whole fed up thing is what I'm worried about... can always 
get it to email them if they got bored and went away if it's stored in a 
table

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yep, that's a definite issue if an individual form is long enough.  i.e. it
takes longer to fill out that form and submit it than your session timeout
is set at.
although if you're splitting it across many pages, hopefully it wouldn't
take that long to fill out any one page.  unless they get fed up with it
and go for their lunch break or something

   
   Damian Watson   
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   ign.co.ukcc:   
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Multiple page questionnaires  
   10/09/2004 18:19
   Please respond to dev   
   
   


Thanks Duncan, that's given me some ideas ;) Going to have to be the 2nd
of the three I think- it's a very long questionnaire so I guess using
session structs may lose some users after timeout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

1. pass the information between pages with hidden form fields.  this
   

method
 

is probably fine, although if your form has quite a few pages and fields,
you'll end up with lots of hidden fields.  if you also go back to the
previous page if there's an error in the form (e.g. they've left a field
blank), you'll have to pass all this information back too.
2.  store the form information in a table.  either this could be a
temporary store, which then gets deleted after form completion or
periodically, or it could be the actual table the form results are meant
   

to
 

end up in.  if your form is created dynamically, you'll need to have a
table flexible enough to allow for various types of answers
(text/numeric/longtext/boolean etc).  probably the most potentially
difficult way of doing it IMHO.
3. store the information in a structure in the session.  probably the
simplest way to do it.  then at the end of the form, just transfer this
structure to an email/database/whatever.


   

 

  Damian Watson
   

 

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
   

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

  ign.co.ukcc:
   

 

Subject: [ cf-dev ]
   

Multiple page questionnaires
 

  10/09/2004 12:45
   

 

  Please respond to dev
   

 

 

 

Hi,
Anyone got good pointers/ tips/ resources for creating multiple page
forms i.e. a registration process with several stages... ?? What to look
out for, pitfalls etc etc
d
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Tips on securing a form.

2004-09-08 Thread Damian Watson
Matt, which bit of code is it?? Can't find it!
Matt Horn wrote:
the solution is simple
strip out javascript and HTML from form posts
by replacing  and  with gt; and lt; and the word 'javascript' with  java
script or something
that way if code is posted it will be rendered ineffective
cflib has a bit of code to do just that AFAIK
HTH
Matt

- Original Message - 
From: Russ Michaels (Snake) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Tips on securing a form.

 

Yes because the javascript your putting in the form is being saved in the
database and displayed on another page. Your not altering the original
   

page.
 

This allows you to gain access to pages and data that only the person
   

logged
 

into the site should be able to see.
Russ
   

-Original Message-
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 September 2004 17:24
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Tips on securing a form.
Hi Russ
I'm a pit confused.  Is entering the javascript into
formfields and then altering the HTML any different than
viewing the source of a form, saving a local copy and then
altering the HTML and posting it?
Thanks
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels (Snake) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 September 2004 17:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Tips on securing a form.
Well you make sure that SQL cannot be inserted by using
CFQUERYPARAM around
your values, so any altering of formfields or URLs's wont allow code
execution. There isn't much you can do about general text
fields as thes
eare intended for people to type text into. But as long as
you stop code
execution then nothing they put here will do any damage. You
may want to do
validation to stop ang TAGS being typed into the fields, and
stop arbitray
code from calling individual pages on your site, otherwise
people can then
use javascript and the likes to get at peoples data. An
example of this.
Lets say u have a site where you can view peoples profiles or
comments, such
as a forum for instance. In my post or comment or profile I
could put some
javascript that popped up a new window and loaded the
personal settings page
into that windows (which would load that persons setting cozz they are
logged in). Now because my code is on the calling page that
popped up that
window, I can now manipulate anything in that window, which
means I can
alter the form action to submit any form to a URL on my
server instead and
thus grab and of that persons info such as username/password
etc when they
click save, or I can just grab anything that is on that page
intitially and
use an IMG tag to send all the values as attributes to a .cfm
page on my
server. Or indeed I can popup any old page from my own server
that tells
that person they have logged out and to log back in, bam I
have their login
details. Now apply this example to sites that take orders,
store credit
details, private information about peeople and you can see
how easy it is to
steal peoples databases without the correct code in place to
stop it. I can
tell you for a start that I discovered you can do this sort
of thing with
the Worldpay payment gateway unless you implement code to avoid it.
I hope I haven't given you lot any ideas now :-)
Russ Michaels
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From: Stephen Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 September 2004 16:33
To: 'Dev
Subject: [ cf-dev ] Tips on securing a form.
Hi,
I have a simple form, which mainly uses drop down list, but
there are a couple of textareas and textfields. Can anyone
tell me where I can find tutorial/tips on how to
programmatically secure this form.
At the moment my for submits straight to an INSERT query, I
just want to make sure no one can attack the site through this form.
   

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Re: [ cf-dev ] sites for mobilde devices

2004-09-07 Thread Damian Watson
Good article that...
The main point to keep in mind Fiaz is to write standards compliant 
code, a table design layout is a definate no-no for instance. Check out 
Jeffrey Zeldman web redesign for good explanations and 
www.alistapart.com is a great resource.

d
Andy Allan wrote:
A List Apart posted this recent article.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pocket/
Andy
Quoting Fiaz Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 

Hi all
I was asked for some advice on developing sites for handheld devices, having
looked into it i am totally confused as to what to develop for, is it still
wml, has it progressed into actual html (or is it xhtml).
Has anyone here done any sites for mobile devices, that would include pda's(
and xda'a) and smartphones.

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Re: [ cf-dev ] sites for mobilde devices

2004-09-07 Thread Damian Watson
Well that's the point of standards compliant code- any platform will be 
able to present it in some way... then when you're working your CSS you 
need (in this case) to look at the lowest common denominator platform to 
create an output display that it can work with.

Fiaz Khan wrote:
I think what i am doing is translating developing for a desktop to developing for a 
phone.
i.e. do we need to worry about different browsers?, screen colours, resolution, file 
sizes, etc, etc, etc
Does the requirements change when developing for a handheld device , from reading the 
article it seems that as long as it is w3c compliant code, it'll be ok.
 

Good article that...
The main point to keep in mind Fiaz is to write standards compliant 
code, a table design layout is a definate no-no for instance. Check out 
Jeffrey Zeldman web redesign for good explanations and 
www.alistapart.com is a great resource.

d
Andy Allan wrote:
   

A List Apart posted this recent article.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pocket/
Andy
Quoting Fiaz Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 

Hi all
I was asked for some advice on developing sites for handheld devices, having
looked into it i am totally confused as to what to develop for, is it still
wml, has it progressed into actual html (or is it xhtml).
Has anyone here done any sites for mobile devices, that would include pda's(
and xda'a) and smartphones.

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[ cf-dev ] Dynamic query name and CF5

2004-08-20 Thread Damian Watson
Hi,
Got a wee problem, I've a query name generated dynamically: 
name=selectDistinctMonths#loop.year#

Later on there's a CFIF statement that needs the recordcount of this 
query. In CFMX I can do this:

cfset request.queryName=selectDistinctMonths#loop.year#
cfif evaluate(request.queryName).recordCount GT 0
...but CF5 don't get it. Anyone got an answer?
Thanks
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Dynamic query name and CF5

2004-08-20 Thread Damian Watson
Sir, you're a genius ;)
Tom Smith wrote:
have you tried
 
evaluate(request.queryName  .recordCount)
 
should work... let me know if it doesn't!

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Hi,
Got a wee problem, I've a query name generated dynamically:
name=selectDistinctMonths#loop.year#
Later on there's a CFIF statement that needs the recordcount of this
query. In CFMX I can do this:
cfset request.queryName=selectDistinctMonths#loop.year#
cfif evaluate(request.queryName).recordCount GT 0
...but CF5 don't get it. Anyone got an answer?
Thanks
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Re: [ cf-dev ] soEditor hyperlink button

2004-08-19 Thread Damian Watson
...and what would that mean? default popup blocker? and if so, how is it 
killed?

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
Have they recently installed XPSP2?  Assuming they are on XP that is ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 August 2004 11:59
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] soEditor hyperlink button

Hi all,
Quick question, I got a user on IE6 who can't get the popup hyperlink 
box in soEditor to popup... anyone got any ideas?

d
John Beynon wrote:
 

all work fine here, firefox 0.9.3
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:27:41 +0100,
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Links don't seem to work, take me directly back to the Links page (Firefox
0.9)
  ColdFusion
  MailingLists To:
 

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  ismix.comSubject: [ cf-dev ] UKCFUG
 

website and meeting
 

  19/08/2004
  11:11
  Please respond
  to dev

Hi everyone,
Two things...
(1) We have a newly designed website - would love to hear your feedback
 http://www.ukcfug.org/
(2) We have a really exciting meeting next week all about Blackstone,
CFMX with Contribute and Breeze
http://www.ukcfug.org/go/objectid/DE671A2E-E081-0302-F9071C980907E3FD
Cheers
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Re: [ cf-dev ] cfmx hosting

2004-08-17 Thread Damian Watson
Paul,
1. Hosts can supply alternative to cffile or a sandbox
2. You'll probably have to pay a fair amount for SQL2K, hosts will 
create DSN or you will have a control panel to do so
3. You could do this pretty easily, just create a dummy file to get the 
current directory

d
Paul Swingewood wrote:
Can anyone shed any light on hosting for me please.
I have developed a site and now I want to host it. The site uses 
CFFILE so I guess I need to have a security sandbox. Does the 
hosting company do this?
The site uses SQL2K for its database. Will the hosting company setup 
the DSN.
I have an application.cfm which sets the DSN, the directory paths for 
images and a few other bits and bobs. Who will make sure these point 
at the correct directories on the server?

I have never had to host outside of my own servers at work before so 
any help on this bit would be appreciated.

Regards - Paul


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Re: [ cf-dev ] SOT: javascript popup

2004-08-11 Thread Damian Watson
Poor poor Damo :'-(
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Cheers Duncan,
Will give this a go. Unfortunately, having to do this on intranet
servers... Using FrontPage98 (vomit)!
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SOT: javascript popup


am i right in thinking there's a dropdown, you select a 'pack', which
you
then want the details to be displayed on the page?  you probably want to
have a named div in your page that you can write all this content to.
function showPack(packName, packSubDir) {
var packtext;
packtext =
   '!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN' +
   'HTML lang=en xml:lang=en xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;'
+
   'HEAD' +
   'TITLESlide pack: ' + packName + '/TITLE' +
   'LINK href=../includes/css/ns4styles.css type=text/css
rel=stylesheet' +
   'LINK media=print href=styles/print.css type=text/css
rel=stylesheet' +
   'STYLE type=text/css media=all@import url(styles/styles.css
);/STYLE' +
   'SCRIPT language=JavaScript1.3
src=scripts/notices.js/SCRIPT' +
   'SCRIPT language=JavaScript1.3 src=' +
   packSubDir + '/slides.js/SCRIPT' +
   'SCRIPT language=JavaScript1.3
src=scripts/slide_show.js/SCRIPT' +
   '/HEAD' +
   'BODY onload=initialise() onUnload=closeQuestionPopup() ' +
   '  vlink=#99 alink=#99 ' +
   '  link=#99 onkeydown=keyCapture(window.event);' +
   'TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=600 border=0
align=center' +
   'TBODY' +
   '  TRTD colspan=3 align=center' +
   'IMG name=slide alt=Slide src= border=0/' +
   '  /TD/TR' +
   '  TRTD colspan=3 align=centerFONT size=-3
color=#99' +
   '  DIV id=Notice/DIV' +
   '  /FONT/TD/TR' +
   '  TR align=center' +
   'TD align=left width=25%DIV id=goBackward/DIV/TD'
+
   'TD align=center width=50%FONT color=#99' +
   'DIV id=slideNo/DIV/FONT/TD' +
   'TD align=right width=25%DIV id=goForward/DIV/TD'
+
   '  /TR' +
   '  TRTD colspan=3 align=center' +
   '  IMG name=logo alt=Logo border=0//TDTR' +
   '  TR' +
   '  TD align=centerDIV id=question/DIV/TD' +
   '  TD align=centerA href=javascript: closeThisPopup()' +
   '  FONT size=-2Close window/FONT/A/TD' +
   '  TD align=centerA href=javascript: self.print()' +
   '  FONT size=-2Print/FONT/A/TD' +
   '  TR' +
   '/TBODY' +
   '/TABLE' +
   '/BODY' +
   '/HTML';
if(document.getElementById)
 document.getElementById('packcontent').innerHTML = packtext;
else if(document.all)
 document.all['packcontent'].innerHTML = packtext;
}
the rest of the javascript functions seem fine.  add this somewhere in
the
body:
div id=packcontent/div
you probably also want to remove the bits of html you won't need, such
as
the doctype, head etc (these should already all be in your page).


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 cc:

   11/08/2004 12:01  Subject: RE: [
cf-dev ] SOT: javascript popup 
   Please respond to dev




Sorry for bringing js into the mix
Just trying to debug something for someone. Can anyone tell me if
there's a quick and dirty way to stop this function producing and popup
window? Just want the page to be created in the current browser:
Thanks!
Damien

-
var havePopup = false;
var popup;
function showPack(packName, packSubDir) {
 if (!havePopup || popup.closed) {
   // Open new popup
   popup = window.open('', '',
'toolbar=0,status=0,width=620,height=540');
   havePopup = true;
 }
 // Open popup for writing
 popup.document.open(text/html, replace);
 // Write HTML
 popup.document.write(
   '!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN' +
   'HTML lang=en xml:lang=en xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;'
+
   'HEAD' +
   'TITLESlide pack: ' + packName + '/TITLE' +
   'LINK href=../includes/css/ns4styles.css type=text/css
rel=stylesheet' +
   'LINK media=print href=styles/print.css type=text/css
rel=stylesheet' +
   'STYLE type=text/css media=all@import url(styles/styles.css
);/STYLE' +
   'SCRIPT language=JavaScript1.3
src=scripts/notices.js/SCRIPT' +
   'SCRIPT language=JavaScript1.3 src=' +
   packSubDir + '/slides.js/SCRIPT' +
   'SCRIPT language=JavaScript1.3
src=scripts/slide_show.js/SCRIPT' +
   '/HEAD' +
   'BODY onload=initialise() onUnload=closeQuestionPopup() ' +
   '  vlink=#99 alink=#99 ' +
   '  link=#99 onkeydown=keyCapture(window.event);' +
   'TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=600 border=0
align=center' +
   'TBODY' +
   '  TRTD colspan=3 align=center' +
   'IMG name=slide alt=Slide src= border=0/' +
   '  /TD/TR' +
   '  TRTD colspan=3 align=centerFONT size=-3
color=#99' +
   '  DIV id=Notice/DIV' +
   '  

[ cf-dev ] mailout programs

2004-08-04 Thread Damian Watson
Howdy y'all,
Anyone used a worthy bulk mailing system that works on a windows 2K 
server? It needs to have solid html editing ability. Doesn't have to be 
CF based but that would be an advantage...

d
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Re: [ cf-dev ] Ok this ones more tricky

2004-08-03 Thread Damian Watson
I think the delete first and then insert would be ok but doesn't this 
fragment the database and make it grow horribly (SQL2K)?

Why?
Paul Swingewood wrote:
The table is like this 
ID   FKItemID  FKSizeID
1244150  1
1245150  2
1246150  3
This shows that item 150 is available in sizeID's (whis points to 
sizes) 1,2 and 3

So I need to update this table where FKItemID = form.ItemID for the 
values passed in the form drop down list.

Make sense?
I think the delete first and then insert would be ok but doesn't this 
fragment the database and make it grow horribly (SQL2K)?

Regards - Paul
From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Ok this ones more tricky
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 11:40:23 +0100
Are you trying to update several DBs rows based on the Primary key 
being in a list (modifiedsize)?
Something like

update table set row = 1  where id in (1,2,3)
???
On Aug 3, 2004, at 11:28 AM, Paul Swingewood wrote:
cfloop index = ListElement
 list = #form.modifiedsize#
 cfquery name=updateitemsizes datasource=#application.DSN#
 UPDATE tblItemSizes
 SET FKSizeID = '#trim(ListElement)#'
 WHERE  FKItemID = '#trim(form.ItemID)#'
 /cfquery
/cfloop
Looking at the above code I think you'll see what I am trying to do. 
(update the size given from a drop down multiple select where the 
itemID's match)

However it doesn't work. I can see that the list loop goes around n 
times for the size and then the query goes around n times becuase of 
the WHERE.

So how do I update the table for each size in the list where the 
itemid's match ...?

Regards - Paul

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Re: [ cf-dev ] WYSIWYG editors - XHTML validation

2004-07-27 Thread Damian Watson
Bloody great Taz! Frame that beermat ;)
One thing I'd look at adding would be close slashes on br hr and img
d
Chris Tazewell wrote:
I know some people on this list have mentioned the need for XHTML 
valid code from WYSIWYG editors like SoEditor and Activedit... usually 
for government contracts etc.
 
Obviously it's damn near impossible to find anything on the MM 
exchange, which in some respects is a blessing, since there's quite a 
lot of crap on there anyway. If you still need this, I've written a 
fairly basic UDF which runs through the tags and sets all the 
non-quoted code to lower case. This is the first version of the 
function, so there may be bugs etc.
 
Feel free to use it, or hack it to pieces. But if you do make any 
modifications or find bugs, let me know what they are and I'll add 
them to the pot.
 
Cheers
Taz
 
 
 
cfscript
 // ***
 // ValidXHTML - Written By Taz on the back of a beer mat
 // Parses html input from a WYSIWYG editor and validates as xhtml 
(lowercase tags)
 // Note: tag attribute values must be in double quotes
 // Use it as much as you like, but let me know if you find any bugs 
or add
 //  functionality via the contact form on www.tazmedia.co.uk 
http://www.tazmedia.co.uk
 // ***
 
 function ValidXHTML(myString) {
  // initialise the start tag index
  startIndex = 1;
  
  while (startIndex LTE Len(myString)) {
   // get the index of the next tag opening and closing angle bracket
   openTag = Find(, myString, startIndex);
   closeTag = Find(, myString, openTag) + 1;
   // grab that tag
   myTag = Mid(myString, openTag, closeTag-openTag);
   
   // if there are upper case letters, process case converter
   if (REFind([A-Z], MyTag, 1)) {   
// initialise start sub tag index
startSubIndex = 1;
myLCaseTag = myTag;

while (startSubIndex LT Len(myLCaseTag)) {
 if (Find('', myLCaseTag, startSubIndex)) {
  endSubindex = Find('', myLCaseTag, startSubIndex);
  // grab start, current part and end as individual sub strings
  if (startSubIndex GT 1) {
   tagHead = Left(myLCaseTag, startSubIndex-1);
  } else {
   tagHead = ;
  }
  mySubStr = Mid(myLCaseTag, startSubIndex, 
endSubIndex-startSubIndex);  
  tagTail = Right(myLCaseTag, Len(myLCaseTag)-endSubindex + 1);
  
  // rebuild the tag with lowercase letters
  myLCaseTag = tagHeadLCase(mySubStr)tagTail;
  startSubIndex = Find('', myTag, endSubIndex+1) + 1;
 } else {
  myLCaseTag = LCase(myTag);
  startSubIndex = Len(myLCaseTag) + 1;
 }
}
// Now replace all instances of this tag in the string
myString = Replace(myString, myTag, myLCaseTag, 'all');
   }
   // Set start index past current tag
   startIndex = closeTag;
  }
  return myString;
 }
/cfscript

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RE: [ cf-dev ] QoQ and Verity

2004-07-05 Thread Damian Watson
OK all, I've moved on from where I was this morning.

I've created a new query (queryNew) from the Verity results- this Verity
query contains results from an indexed query, for examples sakes let's
say it returns three rows:

Verity row  Key (eventiID)  Score
1   20  80%
2   11  70%
3   15  60%

So the results are ordered by score...

I then have a normal query that returns results from advanced search
fields in the search form. This may return more or less results than the
verity search.

What I want to do is combine the two result sets but only return results
in the second query that have IDs returned in the Verity key.

Is this possible and if so how would one go about it? Or am I barking up
the wrong tree and there's a better way to do this?

Cheers
d

-Original Message-
From: damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 July 2004 12:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] QoQ and Verity

I think you're right about the valueList approach- one more question
though- is it possible to run an ORDER BY statement through a list so
something like:

ORDER BY (valueList from Verity key WHERE list = eventID)... basically
the key list is ordered by score -- I want to order the second query in
the same way.

or am I dreaming too much? 

-Original message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon,  5 Jul 2004 12:16:18 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] QoQ and Verity

  
  not entirely sure what you're trying to do here, but what I've done
in the
  past with things like this is firstly perform your Verity search on
the
  keywords:
  
  cfsearch name=getStuff ... 
  
  then do a query on whatever criteria, plus your list of values
returned
  from the cfsearch.
  
  cfquery name=dosearch datasource=dsn
   SELECT columns
   FROM tableName
   WHERE [some criteria]
   cfif getStuff.RecordCount AND ID IN (#ValueList(getStuff.Key)
  #)/cfif
  /cfquery
  
  don't think you can treat the results from the CFSearch as a table in
a
  second query though.
  
  
  It might be that you'd be better off adding the relevant information
  (eventTitle, eventAims) to the actual collection (probably using the
  Custom1 and Custom2 fields).
  
  
  
  


  damian

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  Please respond to dev





  
  
  
  Hi all,
  
  I've got a verity search resultset and an additional resultset that
I'm
  trying to join with a QoQ -- however it seems that CF don't like
doing
  that- I'm getting errors like Incorrect Select list for the verity
key
  column -- anyone know what I need to do or what I'm doing wrong?
Here's the
  code:
  
  cfsearch collection=eventsMatrix type=SIMPLE criteria='
  (#request.s_searchString#) OR #replace(form.searchKeywords,' ', ', ',
  ALL)#' name=keywordSearch
 cfquery name=selectEventsAdvanced
datasource=#request.dsn#
   SELECT eventID,eventTitle,eventAims
   FROM contentEvents
   WHERE
 cfif isDate(form.dateFrom)dateFrom
   =#form.dateFrom#/cfif
 /cfquery
 cfquery name=selectJoinResults dbtype=query
   SELECT
 keywordSearch.score,
  

selectEventsAdvanced.eventID,selectEventsAdvanced.eventTitle,selectEvent
sAdvanced.eventAims
  
   FROM   keywordSearch,
selectEventsAdvanced
   WHERE  selectEventsAdvanced.eventID
=
  keywordSearch.key
   ORDER BY keywordSearch.score
 /cfquery
  
  Cheers
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RE: [ cf-dev ] QoQ and Verity

2004-07-05 Thread Damian Watson
Errr right ignore me, screws have been falling out of my head with
monotonous regularity!

-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 July 2004 23:47
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] QoQ and Verity

OK all, I've moved on from where I was this morning.

I've created a new query (queryNew) from the Verity results- this Verity
query contains results from an indexed query, for examples sakes let's
say it returns three rows:

Verity row  Key (eventiID)  Score
1   20  80%
2   11  70%
3   15  60%

So the results are ordered by score...

I then have a normal query that returns results from advanced search
fields in the search form. This may return more or less results than the
verity search.

What I want to do is combine the two result sets but only return results
in the second query that have IDs returned in the Verity key.

Is this possible and if so how would one go about it? Or am I barking up
the wrong tree and there's a better way to do this?

Cheers
d

-Original Message-
From: damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 July 2004 12:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] QoQ and Verity

I think you're right about the valueList approach- one more question
though- is it possible to run an ORDER BY statement through a list so
something like:

ORDER BY (valueList from Verity key WHERE list = eventID)... basically
the key list is ordered by score -- I want to order the second query in
the same way.

or am I dreaming too much? 

-Original message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon,  5 Jul 2004 12:16:18 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] QoQ and Verity

  
  not entirely sure what you're trying to do here, but what I've done
in the
  past with things like this is firstly perform your Verity search on
the
  keywords:
  
  cfsearch name=getStuff ... 
  
  then do a query on whatever criteria, plus your list of values
returned
  from the cfsearch.
  
  cfquery name=dosearch datasource=dsn
   SELECT columns
   FROM tableName
   WHERE [some criteria]
   cfif getStuff.RecordCount AND ID IN (#ValueList(getStuff.Key)
  #)/cfif
  /cfquery
  
  don't think you can treat the results from the CFSearch as a table in
a
  second query though.
  
  
  It might be that you'd be better off adding the relevant information
  (eventTitle, eventAims) to the actual collection (probably using the
  Custom1 and Custom2 fields).
  
  
  
  


  damian

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cf-dev ] QoQ and Verity
  05/07/2004 11:43

  Please respond to dev





  
  
  
  Hi all,
  
  I've got a verity search resultset and an additional resultset that
I'm
  trying to join with a QoQ -- however it seems that CF don't like
doing
  that- I'm getting errors like Incorrect Select list for the verity
key
  column -- anyone know what I need to do or what I'm doing wrong?
Here's the
  code:
  
  cfsearch collection=eventsMatrix type=SIMPLE criteria='
  (#request.s_searchString#) OR #replace(form.searchKeywords,' ', ', ',
  ALL)#' name=keywordSearch
 cfquery name=selectEventsAdvanced
datasource=#request.dsn#
   SELECT eventID,eventTitle,eventAims
   FROM contentEvents
   WHERE
 cfif isDate(form.dateFrom)dateFrom
   =#form.dateFrom#/cfif
 /cfquery
 cfquery name=selectJoinResults dbtype=query
   SELECT
 keywordSearch.score,
  

selectEventsAdvanced.eventID,selectEventsAdvanced.eventTitle,selectEvent
sAdvanced.eventAims
  
   FROM   keywordSearch,
selectEventsAdvanced
   WHERE  selectEventsAdvanced.eventID
=
  keywordSearch.key
   ORDER BY keywordSearch.score
 /cfquery
  
  Cheers
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RE: [ cf-dev ] heeeeeelp!... I'm dumb !

2004-06-16 Thread Damian Watson
Well, your pictures don't appear to be on the server... this is the root
it's looking for:
http://www.gardenpassion.cfdeveloper.co.uk/fotos/Acacia%20dealbata.jpg

Have you FTPed the images somewhere else? Incidentally, it's not a great
idea to have spaces in file names.

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Hi thereBRBRI must be blind or something cause I loaded a page
called pic.cfm in A
href=http://www.gardenpassion.cfdeveloper.co.uk;www.gardenpassion.cfde
veloper.co.uk/Anbsp;and I dotn seem to get it working, the pictures
just wont coem out, can someone take a look at the source code which can
be seen with no problem and let me know what I'm doing wrong
BRBRthanks.thanksthanksthanksBRBRkoko




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RE: [ cf-dev ] Session / logout

2004-06-14 Thread Damian Watson
You said it! It persists in the browser- anyone know the technical
reasons? I guess whatever it leaves in the browser has a timestamp and
it takes it from that...

If you want to empty the session b4 time you'd have to structClear or
summit like that. You'd need some script to run on close if you wanted
to logout users closing the window.

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Can anyone explain to me please the workings of the session variable.

As I understand it, the session variable exisits (in the current browser
session) or until it times out.

If the user closes the browser why doesn't the session variable die?

for example. User logs in. Session.loggedIn is set. User closes browser.
User reopens browser. Session.loggedin is still set. I htought it would
die
when the browser closed. Or is this all tota rubbish on my behalf.

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[ cf-dev ] OT Amazon book viewer

2004-06-14 Thread Damian Watson








Hi, anyone have any ideas about how amazon does its book preview function? Is there software around that can preview
books/ magazines from XML/ PDF?








RE: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and XHTML validation

2004-06-11 Thread Damian Watson
Cheers Mark, maybe I'll have a bash at making a proper little function
then which would certainly be very useful... 

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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and XHTML validation


I guess it could be done a lot more elegantly than this so if anyone s

got any pointers ??

Maybe the source of HTMLTidy would help, available from w3c.org. I used
it 
as inspiration for some code in SpeckCMS. It's written in C, but you
don't 
need to be a C programmer to figure out what the source code does (I
have 
no C programming experience at all)


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RE: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and XHTML validation

2004-06-10 Thread Damian Watson









Dont have access to the tag
unfortunately I guess Im after a rather complicated regex that converts anything within  to lowercase
except items in quotes to preserve styles.



-Original Message-
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Sent: 10 June 2004 12:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor
and XHTML validation





If you
have the right licence and access to the code, could you not change the source
so it outputs lowercase? I'm assuming there's no option availbale in the tag
though.











Ade





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Sent: 10 June 2004 12:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and
XHTML validation



Hi all, anyone know if SoEditor can output
its html in lowercase so that it validates for XHTML?? If not then has
anyone got anything handy to convert html tags into lcase?












RE: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and XHTML validation

2004-06-10 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message









yup, but the trick is to only lcase P class=miXedCase
the p bit for example- Ive found something on devex
that Im going to try out and will post a description if successful



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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor
and XHTML validation





Can
you not use the lcase() function somehow?





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Subject: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and
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Hi all, anyone know if SoEditor can output
its html in lowercase so that it validates for XHTML?? If not then has
anyone got anything handy to convert html tags into lcase?




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RE: [ cf-dev ] Big prob

2004-06-10 Thread Damian Watson








Roberta, I think you need to remove
yourself from the list then!



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Delete [EMAIL PROTECTED] from your send contacts, Now! 



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I'm passing form parameters, but I can't use cfhttp as it's CF5 and

everything's
under SSL 128 bit encryption, hence CFX_rawsocket 
I
could pass the form fields directly to the asp, but I'd got other

error
trapping and things were 'wrapped' up quite nicely. 

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RE: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and XHTML validation

2004-06-10 Thread Damian Watson
cfloop from=1 to=infinity
cfmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=a pleasure
Pleased to make your acquaintance ;)
/cfmail
/cfloop

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Sent: 10 June 2004 17:17
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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and XHTML validation

what the hell is this rubbish??? seems like a spam to the group.  Or it
seems this person doesn't know she's subscribed to this list.

This isn't even a nice message.
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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:14 PM
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 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:25 AM
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 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and XHTML validation



 yup, but the trick is to only lcase P class=miXedCase the p bit
for
 example- I've found something on devex that I'm going to try out and
 will post a description if successful



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 Can you not use the lcase() function somehow?

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 Subject: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and XHTML validation

 Hi all, anyone know if SoEditor can output it's html in lowercase so
 that it validates for XHTML?? If not then has anyone got anything
handy
 to convert html tags into lcase?


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RE: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and XHTML validation

2004-06-10 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message









well, I had a look around a few things but didnt come across
anything quite suitable in the end I hacked it like this:



cfset tagList=P,/P,BR/,A,/A,UL,/UL,LI,/LI,OL,/OL

cfparam
name=request.textContent default=#selectText.textContent#

cfloop
index=tag list=#tagList#
delimiters=,

 cfset request.textContent=#replace(request.textContent, tag, lCase(tag), 'all')#

/cfloop



I guess it could be done a lot more
elegantly than this so if anyones got any pointers
??



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Sent: 10 June 2004 16:30
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor
and XHTML validation



i
believe u can find a UDF on cflib that wil upper or lowercase all html tags in
a passed variable.



Russ











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Can
you not use the lcase() function somehow?





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Subject: [ cf-dev ] SoEditor and
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Hi all, anyone know if SoEditor can output
its html in lowercase so that it validates for XHTML?? If not then has
anyone got anything handy to convert html tags into lcase?




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RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

2004-06-07 Thread Damian Watson








Yeah I would be very nervous about letting an employee go like that at
the moment, give it 30 years or so though- youll be able to work at home
once youve retired and the mean employers will pay you £2.00 an hour,
the equivalent of a penny sweet in future money ;)



-Original Message-
From: Duncan Fenton
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Sent: 07 June 2004 14:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The
chicken or the egg



Even a boss that trusted me - and there have been a
few - would not sign up for that. Maybe I'm atypical, but part of the
service is to support my sponsor in his/her interactions with other players
(his/her boss, other 'barons', the users, potential/actual
customers). And for that you have to be able to attend in person at
reasonable notice.

Duncan Fenton


Message date : Jun 07 2004, 02:02 PM
>From : Barry L Beattie 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

 yes but
we all know Spike that's the difference

yes. how well you know them. Trust.

as a side note - who here could talk their boss into
letting them telecommute? say if you wanted to spend 2+ months in the bahamas?
how about if you could arrange handytools - iChat, video conference, a
sorted CVS, decient laptop and internet connection? 

curious
barry.b



- Original Message -
From: Snake Hollywood 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 13:13:50 +0100
To: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

yes but
we all know Spike that's the difference. It's a different kettle of fish when
your dealing with an unknown.



Russ











From: Barry L
Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 June 2004 08:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] RE: The
chicken or the egg

won't things like ICQ and video conferencing get
around telecommuting woes? logging on and working while everyone else is as
work (ie: their 9-5)? Flash RIA's would hel there, etc.

we've ditched a young mother who was coding for us
because she was a PITA to get hold of (for all the reasonsRuss said). A
pity to shaft someone deserving but no way to run a business.

but surely it's not impossible and a cost/benefit
analysis can show it'll work, yes?

A case in point: for those that know Spike (Stephen
Milligan), if you could afford him for contract work via telecommuting-
would you hire him? I would.

just AU$0.02
barry.b


- Original Message - 
From: Alex Puritche 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 17:47:52 +0300 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg 

 Snake, 
 
 I believe that you know what term credit history mean.
Applying it 
 to IT - employer can assume that if I successfully worked for 5 
 companies then I probably will work OK for 6th too. 
 
 Telecommuters can be managed only if you are 10 finger keyboards 
 typist. This is primary skill needed for managing telecommuters, i'm 
 not kidding. 
 
 As for time management - contact me off list, i will send you link to 
 a program which solves this problem. 
 
 In general, it isn't a problem to manage overseas stuff once you dug 
 in, the problem is to want to try it. 
 
 
 Sunday, June 6, 2004, 12:19:42 PM, you wrote: 
  lt; BR Snake It's not pure gain, it's a pain in the ass.

 Snake Telecommuters cannot be managed, 
 Snake monitored, checked on. 
 Snake I would have no idea if your doing any work, no idea what hours
your 
 Snake working, no idea if your charging me for 8 hours per day but
only working 4 
 Snake etc. 
 Snake I would not employ a full-time telecommuter for my company unless
I already 
 Snake knew them and knew their ability to work remotely and be
reliable. And then 
 Snake I would expect them to be in the same country so they can come
to meetings 
 Snake etc. 
 
 Snake Russ 
 
 
 
  -Original Message- 
  From: Alex Puritche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 05 June 2004 18:46 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: Re[4]: [ cf-dev ] The ch icken or the egg 
  
  
  Snake, 
  
  I understand, but it doesn't solve problems of the UK companies. 
  
  From the state point of view, it is much cheaper to
buy in 
  a various ways, providing temporary working permits, 
  permanent legal statuses, etc. to trained/educated people 
  then to grow and train own. 
  
  As for telecomuters - it is pure gain, because telecommuter 
  is living abroad and do not utilize state services
like 
  police, health care, social secure, etc. in the same time 
  working for that country instead of native country. 
  
  I hope you understand me. 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

2004-06-07 Thread Damian Watson








Sorry, I should have said dollars or euros
depending whether we choose to eat freedom fries or French fries. Personally I
like my potatoes au gratin.



-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 June 2004 14:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The
chicken or the egg



Yeah
I would be very nervous about letting an employee go like that at the moment,
give it 30 years or so though- youll be able to work at home once
youve retired and the mean employers will pay you £2.00 an hour, the
equivalent of a penny sweet in future money ;)



-Original Message-
From: Duncan Fenton
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 June 2004 14:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The
chicken or the egg



Even a boss that trusted me - and there have been a
few - would not sign up for that. Maybe I'm atypical, but part of the
service is to support my sponsor in his/her interactions with other players
(his/her boss, other 'barons', the users, potential/actual
customers). And for that you have to be able to attend in person at
reasonable notice.

Duncan Fenton


Message date : Jun 07 2004, 02:02 PM
>From : Barry L Beattie 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

 yes but
we all know Spike that's the difference

yes. how well you know them. Trust.

as a side note - who here could talk their boss into
letting them telecommute? say if you wanted to spend 2+ months in the bahamas?
how about if you could arrange handytools - iChat, video conference, a
sorted CVS, decient laptop and internet connection? 

curious
barry.b



- Original Message -
From: Snake Hollywood 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 13:13:50 +0100
To: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

yes but
we all know Spike that's the difference. It's a different kettle of fish when
your dealing with an unknown.



Russ















From: Barry L
Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 June 2004 08:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] RE: The
chicken or the egg

won't things like ICQ and video conferencing get
around telecommuting woes? logging on and working while everyone else is as
work (ie: their 9-5)? Flash RIA's would hel there, etc.

we've ditched a young mother who was coding for us
because she was a PITA to get hold of (for all the reasonsRuss said). A
pity to shaft someone deserving but no way to run a business.

but surely it's not impossible and a cost/benefit
analysis can show it'll work, yes?

A case in point: for those that know Spike (Stephen
Milligan), if you could afford him for contract work via telecommuting-
would you hire him? I would.

just AU$0.02
barry.b


- Original Message - 
From: Alex Puritche 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 17:47:52 +0300 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg 

 Snake, 
 
 I believe that you know what term credit history mean.
Applying it 
 to IT - employer can assume that if I successfully worked for 5 
 companies then I probably will work OK for 6th too. 
 
 Telecommuters can be managed only if you are 10 finger keyboards 
 typist. This is primary skill needed for managing telecommuters, i'm 
 not kidding. 
 
 As for time management - contact me off list, i will send you link to 
 a program which solves this problem. 
 
 In general, it isn't a problem to manage overseas stuff once you dug 
 in, the problem is to want to try it. 
 
 
 Sunday, June 6, 2004, 12:19:42 PM, you wrote: 
  lt; BR Snake It's not pure gain, it's a pain in the ass.

 Snake Telecommuters cannot be managed, 
 Snake monitored, checked on. 
 Snake I would have no idea if your doing any work, no idea what hours
your 
 Snake working, no idea if your charging me for 8 hours per day but
only working 4 
 Snake etc. 
 Snake I would not employ a full-time telecommuter for my company
unless I already 
 Snake knew them and knew their ability to work remotely and be
reliable. And then 
 Snake I would expect them to be in the same country so they can come
to meetings 
 Snake etc. 
 
 Snake Russ 
 
 
 
  -Original Message- 
  From: Alex Puritche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 05 June 2004 18:46 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: Re[4]: [ cf-dev ] The ch icken or the egg 
  
  
  Snake, 
  
  I understand, but it doesn't solve problems of the UK companies. 
  
  From the state point of view, it is much cheaper to
buy in 
  a various ways, providing temporary working permits, 
  permanent legal statuses, etc. to trained/educated people 
  then to grow and train own. 
  
  As for telecomuters - it is pure gain, because telecommuter 
  is living abroad and do not utilize state services
like 
  police, health care, social secure, etc. in the same time 
  working for that country instead of native country. 
  

RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

2004-06-07 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message









and seriously also, its a very
different world allowing employees to telework
you may find that larger service companies begin to do this more often with
freelancers as it cuts down on overheads and that may change the way the
employee market works eventually. Im happy for trusted people to work at
home but as Duncan pointed out, there is a definite need for regular personal contact
that MSN cant yet provide.



-Original Message-
From: Mark Smyth
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 June 2004 14:57
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The
chicken or the egg





but on a
more serious note, i'd be more than happy to consider telecommuting offers of
up to 40 hours a week (providing I can get away with working 10)





-Original Message-
From: Damian
 Watson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 June 2004 13:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The
chicken or the egg

Yeah...
I would be very nervous about letting an employee go like that at the moment,
give it 30 years or so though- you'll be able to work at home once you've
retired and the mean employers will pay you £2.00 an hour, the equivalent of a
penny sweet in future money ;)



-Original Message-
From: Duncan Fenton
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 June 2004 14:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The
chicken or the egg



Even a boss that trusted me - and there have been a
few - would not sign up for that. Maybe I'm atypical, but part of the
service is to support my sponsor in his/her interactions with other players
(his/her boss, other 'barons', the users, potential/actual
customers). And for that you have to be able to attend in person at
reasonable notice.

Duncan Fenton


Message date : Jun 07 2004, 02:02 PM
>From : Barry L Beattie 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

 yes but
we all know Spike that's the difference

yes. how well you know them. Trust.

as a side note - who here could talk their boss into
letting them telecommute? say if you wanted to spend 2+ months in the bahamas?
how about if you could arrange handytools - iChat, video conference, a
sorted CVS, decient laptop and internet connection? 

curious
barry.b



- Original Message -
From: Snake Hollywood 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 13:13:50 +0100
To: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg

yes but
we all know Spike that's the difference. It's a different kettle of fish when
your dealing with an unknown.



Russ


















RE: [ cf-dev ] The chicken or the egg

2004-06-05 Thread Damian Watson
Out of interest, are there any recent hard statistics out there of the
spread of this market i.e.

ASP x%
CF  y%
PHP z%

And the percentages of developers trained in them..??

-Original Message-
From: Alex Puritche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 June 2004 14:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The chicken or the egg

hi folks,

  sorry  for  bringing  this topic up. i was constantly seeking for UK
  employer  and  i  wasn't  able  to find any of during 5 years. so it
  seems  to me sort of strange that it is difficult for UK employer to
  find good CF developer.


Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 11:00:54 PM, you wrote:

Ellwood I have heard many discussions on this forum about
Ellwood the lackof Coldfusion jobs and whether we should retrain in
Ellwood ASP and the like. My recentexperience has shown me an
Ellwood alternative viewpoint. My current contract is for anemployer
Ellwood who is in the midst of making the decision to move from CF to
Ellwood .NET andhis main reason is that he cant get any Coldfusion
Ellwood programmers. There is avirtual glut of asp programmers
Ellwood leaving University and a great source of thevaluable resource
Ellwood he needs. So which came first, the lack of jobs or the lackof
Ellwood programmers?

Ellwood  

Ellwood Ellis C Wood BSc

Ellwood Ellwood Web Solutions

Ellwood  

Ellwood T: 01623 459973

Ellwood E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ellwood W: http://www.ellwoodwebsolutions.co.uk

Ellwood  






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RE: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list

2004-06-04 Thread Damian Watson
Why thank you Tom ;)

The ole from / to is much forgotten lol

-Original Message-
From: Tom Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2004 13:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list

Damian,

This is a much better solution that the one I posted ;)
- Original Message - 
From: Damian Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list


 well, you need to count the number of elements in the lists then
output
 them together looping from 1 to the total number of values in the
lists
 i.e.:
  
 You need to make sure the listLens are equal though so maybe have a
 check in there as well:
  
 cfif listLen(listofURLs, ,) EQ listLen(listofTitles, ,)
 cfset last= listLen(listofURLs, ,)
 cfloop from=1 to=#last# index=i
 cfoutput#listGetAt(listofTitles, i)#
 #listGetAt(listofURLs, i)#/cfoutput
 /cfloop
 /cfif
  
 HTH
 d
 -Original Message-
 From: James Buckingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 04 June 2004 12:38
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list
  
 Hi guys,
  
 Just to twist this slightly.
  
 I've actually got two fields for these links. One contains the title
to
 be used, the other contains the appropriate link.
  
 How can I setup this loop so it breaks up two strings, inserts one
part
 into the HREF and the other as the link title? 
  
 Cheers again,
 James
  
   _  
 
 From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 04 June 2004 11:46
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list
  
 Use cfloop and loop over the list? 
 cfloop list=#mylist# index=i 
 cfoutput#i#br/cfoutput 
 /cfloop 
 jb 
 -Original Message- 
 From: James Buckingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 04 June 2004 11:25 
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
 Subject: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list 
 Hi guys, 
 Sorry, I've asked this before but I can't seem to find the emails in
my 
 archive. 
 I have a string of weblinks within an Access database which are
 separated by 
 a comma. 
 Here's an example: 
 www.macromedia.com,www.google.com,www.ebay.com 
 etc. etc. 
 What I need to do is break this string up and display the links as a 
 vertical list on a page. 
 So the example above would become: 
 www.macromedia.com 
 www.google.com 
 www.ebay.com 
 Is there a way I can do this? 
 I'm currently run CF5.0 
 Cheers again, 
 JamesB 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list

2004-06-04 Thread Damian Watson
Hooray, from today I'm a real man.

:-P

-Original Message-
From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 June 2004 14:18
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list

Yay, Damian must be well proud now...


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 04 June 2004 13:29
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list
 
 
 Damian,
 
 This is a much better solution that the one I posted ;)
 - Original Message - 
 From: Damian Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:08 PM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list
 
 
  well, you need to count the number of elements in the lists then 
  output them together looping from 1 to the total number of 
 values in 
  the lists
  i.e.:
   
  You need to make sure the listLens are equal though so maybe have a 
  check in there as well:
   
  cfif listLen(listofURLs, ,) EQ listLen(listofTitles, ,)
  cfset last= listLen(listofURLs, ,)
  cfloop from=1 to=#last# index=i
  cfoutput#listGetAt(listofTitles, i)# 
  #listGetAt(listofURLs, i)#/cfoutput /cfloop
  /cfif
   
  HTH
  d
  -Original Message-
  From: James Buckingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 04 June 2004 12:38
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list
   
  Hi guys,
   
  Just to twist this slightly.
   
  I've actually got two fields for these links. One contains 
 the title 
  to be used, the other contains the appropriate link.
   
  How can I setup this loop so it breaks up two strings, inserts one 
  part into the HREF and the other as the link title?
   
  Cheers again,
  James
   
_
  
  From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 04 June 2004 11:46
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list
   
  Use cfloop and loop over the list?
  cfloop list=#mylist# index=i 
  cfoutput#i#br/cfoutput 
  /cfloop 
  jb 
  -Original Message- 
  From: James Buckingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 04 June 2004 11:25 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  Subject: [ cf-dev ] Breaking up a list 
  Hi guys, 
  Sorry, I've asked this before but I can't seem to find the 
 emails in my 
  archive. 
  I have a string of weblinks within an Access database which are
  separated by 
  a comma. 
  Here's an example: 
  www.macromedia.com,www.google.com,www.ebay.com 
  etc. etc. 
  What I need to do is break this string up and display the 
 links as a 
  vertical list on a page. 
  So the example above would become: 
  www.macromedia.com 
  www.google.com 
  www.ebay.com 
  Is there a way I can do this? 
  I'm currently run CF5.0 
  Cheers again, 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] dlete variable in query string

2004-06-03 Thread Damian Watson
structDelete(url, st) - or are you trying to remove it from the url
itself??

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Sent: 03 June 2004 12:32
To: dev lists
Subject: [ cf-dev ] dlete variable in query string

Hi, is there an easy way of deleting a variable in a query string?
For instance I have the following string:

?keywords=workst=6nh=10

I would like to remove the variable st

Thanks, Damien

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RE: [ cf-dev ] dlete variable in query string

2004-06-03 Thread Damian Watson
But then you're using CF5 and in any case I didn't read your question
properly- you'd need listDeleteAt or similar...

What are you trying to do exactly?

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Sent: 03 June 2004 11:48
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] dlete variable in query string

structDelete(url, st) - or are you trying to remove it from the url
itself??

-Original Message-
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Sent: 03 June 2004 12:32
To: dev lists
Subject: [ cf-dev ] dlete variable in query string

Hi, is there an easy way of deleting a variable in a query string?
For instance I have the following string:

?keywords=workst=6nh=10

I would like to remove the variable st

Thanks, Damien

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RE: [ cf-dev ] admin problem - more info

2004-06-01 Thread Damian Watson
Dammit, I did have this problem b4 and can't remember what I did... have
you tried going through port 8500?

-Original Message-
From: Justin MacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 31 May 2004 16:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] admin problem - more info

If I put a test.htm file into my 
d:\interpub\WWWroot\CFIDE/administrator\  folder I can reach it fine at

www.mysite.com/cfide/administrator/test.htm

But

www.mysite.com/cfide/administrator/index.cfm gives me a COLdFusion File 
not found error.


Justin

On May 31, 2004, at 3:58 PM, Justin MacCarthy wrote:

 Yeah.

 If i use 127.0.0.1/cfide/administrator/index.cfm i get a cf error  
 that  says template 127.0.0.1/cfide/administrator/index.cfm doesn't 
 exist.
 Debugging is on and the template that this error is in is 
 /cfide/administrator/index.cfm
 Must be a mapping issue???



 On May 31, 2004, at 3:15 PM, Snake Hollywood wrote:

 Does everything else work, except cfide folder?


 -Original Message-
 From: Justin MacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 31 May 2004 13:35
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] admin problem


 yeah it does. iis.

 On May 31, 2004, at 1:32 PM, Snake Hollywood wrote:

 Make sure the CFIDE virtual directory exists in the site your
trying
 to run
 this from.


 -Original Message-
 From: Justin MacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 31 May 2004 12:01
 To: cfuk
 Subject: [ cf-dev ] admin problem


 Hi, i'm getting the following error trying to get to my cf
 administrator error working. I'm getting



 File not found: /cfide/administrator/index.cfm

 Please try the following:

 * Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you
 are using the
 correct syntax.
 * Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.



 Browser   Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.23; Mac_PowerPC)
 Remote Address    83.147.128.22
 Referrer  
 Date/Time     31-May-04 12:00 PM



 The cfide directory is in wwwroot.


 Any ideas

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Date manipulation n00b

2004-05-26 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message









Didnt you read the contract in
joining this list?? He has all our souls ;)



-Original Message-
From: Peter Harrison
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 May 2004 14:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Date
manipulation n00b





does
that mean Russ can have your soul?





-Original Message-
From: Matt Horn
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 May 2004 14:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Date
manipulation n00b



sweet











thanks Russ













- Original Message - 





From: Snake Hollywood 





To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Wednesday,
May 26, 2004 3:44 PM





Subject: RE: [
cf-dev ] Date manipulation n00b











where
MONTH(date) = 3











Russ





-Original Message-
From: Matt Horn
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 May 2004 14:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] Date
manipulation n00b



Select InvoiceID,invoiceName
,datecreated from tblinvoices where
#datepart(MONTH,test.datecreated)# = 3

















can someone tell me how to fix that
so I only return records for the 3rd month of the year?

















its eating my soul











thanks











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Web Applications Developer
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Date manipulation n00b

2004-05-26 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message









Sh$t, I thought I was joking



-Original Message-
From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 26 May 2004 14:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Date
manipulation n00b





If your
on my list, i already have it... didn't u read the small print :-)

















-Original Message-
From: Peter Harrison
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 May 2004 14:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Date
manipulation n00b



does
that mean Russ can have your soul?





-Original Message-
From: Matt Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 May 2004 14:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Date
manipulation n00b



sweet











thanks Russ













- Original Message - 





From: Snake Hollywood 





To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Wednesday,
May 26, 2004 3:44 PM





Subject: RE: [
cf-dev ] Date manipulation n00b











where
MONTH(date) = 3











Russ





-Original Message-
From: Matt Horn
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 May 2004 14:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] Date
manipulation n00b



Select InvoiceID,invoiceName
,datecreated from tblinvoices where
#datepart(MONTH,test.datecreated)# = 3

















can someone tell me how to fix that
so I only return records for the 3rd month of the year?

















its eating my soul











thanks











|\/|
Matt Horn
Web Applications Developer
Ph:+2782 424 3751
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E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [ cf-dev ] User adding their own links - Suggestions

2004-05-24 Thread Damian Watson








James what I generally do is:



a) text field where they enter the URL- required

b) a link title (text field) required

c) a short description (textarea) optional



This would then output on the public site
as:



This is my link title

www.link.com

This is a short description to tell the
user what they should expect by clicking the link.



HTH

d







-Original Message-
From: James Buckingham
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 May 2004 12:32
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ cf-dev ] User adding
their own links - Suggestions



Afternoon
everyone,



I've
been asked to create a few pages for a client which will allow them to
add/edit/delete a list of 'useful' links on another page. 



I'm
sure this is a very common request but I was wonder what the best way of
creating such a system would be. Any recommendations? 



The
clients who will be using this are completely non-technical/HTML users so the
system has to be very simple. 



Can
they simply just add http://www.macromedia.com
to a text field and that would do the trick OR is there something I should be
aware of by doing it this way?



Appreciate
your feedback.



Cheers,

JamesB








RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP

2004-05-18 Thread Damian Watson
James, can you not use the callback functionality so that if a payment
is processed worldpay will send data to a page of your choice from
whence you may throw the data into the db??

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 May 2004 15:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP


Yeah thats what I figured I was gonna have to do.  But i wanted to store
the data once they had clicked on the make payment button, then submit
the
transaction data to Worldpay, rather than store the data then ask them
to
click the button.

Cheers

James



 

Snake

Hollywood  To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc:

kepit.net  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
CFHTTP
 

17/05/2004 15:06

Please respond

to dev

 

 






I use the worldpay select junior myself, there is no cookie storing on
the
form submission.
You obviously need to go to the actual site so they can fill in their
card
details etc anyway, so u couldn't CFHTTP.
The normal process Is that you store their basket/details etc info in
the
database on the checkout page, so from  there u just have a click on the
make payment button to submit the form to worldpay.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 17 May 2004 14:54
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP



 Its WorldPay.  Ive been attempting to integrate their
 Worldpay select Junior service into a site.  The submission
 to their server with this method is from a form, but i want
 to store the data from the form in my database before it gets
 sent off to WorldPay, hence the need to resubmit the form to
 a different age.

 James






 Peter Harrison

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sguru.com cc:

Subject:
   RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP
 17/05/2004 14:42

 Please respond to dev










 I'm looking at this and it feels all wrong. I'd be asking:

 Do the web site owners know you're doing this? Why wouldn't
 they want this? Is there a better way than creating your own
 form that submits to their web site?

 Your application is relying on the hope they don't change
 their web site.

 - Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 17 May 2004 14:22
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP


 Well that's the only way you can submit the form without them
 having to clicking a button.



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 17 May 2004 13:39
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP
 
 
 
  Hmm.. like this idea, although would prefer to have a non
 javascript
  dependent way of doing it, but i'll probably use it if i
 cant get what
  i need.
 
  Cheers
 
  James
 
 
 
 
 
  Snake
 
  Hollywood  To:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc:
 
  kepit.net  Subject: RE:
  [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP
 
 
  17/05/2004 12:20
 
  Please respond
 
  to dev
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  What you actually need to do is generate a page with the
 form u want
  submitted, and include some javascript to auto-submit the form when
  the page loads. The page can be empty with hidden form
 fields as this
  will be an automated process.
 
  E.g
 
  script language=javascript tyle=text/javascript
 document.onload
  = document.formname.submit(); /script
 
  Russ Michaels
  Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
 
  CFDeveloper
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  http://www.cfdeveloper.co.uk
 
  Join the CFDeveloper discussion lists.
  To subscribe send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 17 May 2004 12:03
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP
  
  
  
   Hi folks.
  
   I'm having a wee problem using CFHTTP.  What I basically
  need is for
   CFHTTP to simulate the submission of a form.  The problem
  i'm having
   is that instead of moving on to the form action page
 (which is on a
   different
   server) I have to display the results in the same page as
  the CFHTTP
   request using #cfhttp.filecontent#.  My problems arises
 because the
   page that the form is to be submitted to sets a number of
  cookies, and
   does various other jiggery pokery which break when using cfhttp
   instead of a direct form submission.
  
   Is there anyway I can simulate the submission of 

RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP

2004-05-18 Thread Damian Watson
Ah, good thinking ;) Do you mind posting what you come up with? Quite a
useful thing...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 May 2004 11:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP


Yeah I've been considering that but there is a lot of data with regards
to
a transaction that i dont want to send off to worldpay,  I'm going to go
with what Snake said and fire the order into the database, and set a
flag
in the database to say that the order has not been paid for yet, then
use
the callback function to change that flag should the order go through
ok.

Cheers

James



 

Damian Watson

[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ign.co.ukcc:

  Subject: RE: [
cf-dev ] CFHTTP
18/05/2004 11:31

Please respond to dev

 

 






James, can you not use the callback functionality so that if a payment
is processed worldpay will send data to a page of your choice from
whence you may throw the data into the db??

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 May 2004 15:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP


Yeah thats what I figured I was gonna have to do.  But i wanted to store
the data once they had clicked on the make payment button, then submit
the
transaction data to Worldpay, rather than store the data then ask them
to
click the button.

Cheers

James





Snake

Hollywood  To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc:

kepit.net  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ]
CFHTTP


17/05/2004 15:06

Please respond

to dev










I use the worldpay select junior myself, there is no cookie storing on
the
form submission.
You obviously need to go to the actual site so they can fill in their
card
details etc anyway, so u couldn't CFHTTP.
The normal process Is that you store their basket/details etc info in
the
database on the checkout page, so from  there u just have a click on the
make payment button to submit the form to worldpay.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 17 May 2004 14:54
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP



 Its WorldPay.  Ive been attempting to integrate their
 Worldpay select Junior service into a site.  The submission
 to their server with this method is from a form, but i want
 to store the data from the form in my database before it gets
 sent off to WorldPay, hence the need to resubmit the form to
 a different age.

 James






 Peter Harrison

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sguru.com cc:

Subject:
   RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP
 17/05/2004 14:42

 Please respond to dev










 I'm looking at this and it feels all wrong. I'd be asking:

 Do the web site owners know you're doing this? Why wouldn't
 they want this? Is there a better way than creating your own
 form that submits to their web site?

 Your application is relying on the hope they don't change
 their web site.

 - Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 17 May 2004 14:22
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP


 Well that's the only way you can submit the form without them
 having to clicking a button.



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 17 May 2004 13:39
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP
 
 
 
  Hmm.. like this idea, although would prefer to have a non
 javascript
  dependent way of doing it, but i'll probably use it if i
 cant get what
  i need.
 
  Cheers
 
  James
 
 
 
 
 
  Snake
 
  Hollywood  To:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc:
 
  kepit.net  Subject: RE:
  [ cf-dev ] CFHTTP
 
 
  17/05/2004 12:20
 
  Please respond
 
  to dev
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  What you actually need to do is generate a page with the
 form u want
  submitted, and include some javascript to auto-submit the form when
  the page loads. The page can be empty with hidden form
 fields as this
  will be an automated process.
 
  E.g
 
  script language=javascript tyle=text/javascript
 document.onload
  = document.formname.submit(); /script
 
  Russ Michaels
  Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
 
  CFDeveloper
  The free resource

RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS

2004-05-07 Thread Damian Watson
Andrew, read below!!

-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 17:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS

Aha, that's exactly who I signed up with last night... so make that a
third recommendation to anyone else who needs to do SMS/email, email/SMS
- it was very easy to set up etc...

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 16:14
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS

we used them for the Chasing Bush campaign on interwebnet.org

http://www.interwebnet.org/chasing_bush

so that people campaigning could text us news/sightings etc from on the
march easily with their standard mobiles straight to our inboxes. It
worked
fantastically! I recommend it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 March 2004 16:09
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS
 
 
 Yes
 
 Checkout 
 
 http://www.sms2email.com
 
 Kola
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 23 March 2004 23:26
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS
  
  Thanks Mark, it truly is simple ;)
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 23 March 2004 19:59
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] SMS
  
   Anyone got any tips on sending SMS from CF templates?... any
 tutorials
   (can't find any) would be useful plus advice on gateways that are
  cheap
   or free!
  
  If you use an email to sms gateway, it's as simple as using CFMAIL.
  
  Google will find you some cheap gateways, there are very 
 few totally 
  free ones left these days (not sure if there are any tbh). If you 
  have a
 company
  account
  with a mobile phone network, give them a ring and ask them if they
 run
  their
  own or can recommend an sms gateway - never know, they might have 
  something for their business customers.
  
  
  Mark
  
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RE: [ cf-dev ] Community Week!

2004-05-06 Thread Damian Watson









Thats an attractive photo of you
there Simon in the MacroChat



~oh show me the way to the next whisky
bar~



-Original
Message-
From: Simon Horwith
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 May 2004 00:43
To: UK DevList
Subject: [ cf-dev ] Community
Week!



Macromedia
will be holding their first community week this May 17 - 21. The week
will feature MacroChats and a world-wide CFUG. Find out more at: http://www.macromedia.com/community/

~Simon



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RE: [ cf-dev ] losing it big time .....

2004-05-04 Thread Damian Watson
Maybe cfif #get_news.news_url# neq  isn't coming out as FALSE
ever... try cfif trim(get_news.news_url) neq  instead, c what
happens.

d

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Sent: 04 May 2004 10:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] losing it big time .


I just can't figure this 

The table holds news_id, news_headline, news_details, news_url.

If there is nothing in the news_url element then display nothing else
display more info

What could be simpler ? - When theres nothing in the news_url
however I
get a link to the default page (marge.bgfl.org/perform) ... AG!

cfoutput query=get_news
p
 #news_headline#
 /font/strong
p
font size=2 face=Arial#news_details#p
cfif #get_news.news_url# neq 
ia href=#news_url#More Info/a/i.br
/cfif
br
/font
/cfoutput

Regards - Paul





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RE: [ cf-dev ] losing it big time .....

2004-05-04 Thread Damian Watson
Paul...

I'm presuming that your user is entering a description that could
contain paragraphs breaks into a textarea.

If that is so, then the way to emulate this in your output is to use the
following replace:

#replace(your.variable, chr(13), 'br', all)#

This will replace any carriage return in your textarea text with a br.

HTH
d

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 May 2004 11:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] losing it big time .


Just another thought on this area.

I want to be able to display the text in th enews item description as
the
user enterd it to the form. Really just the layout (cr etc) and not
the
font or size or anything.
pre /pre seems to screw it up big time. Is there anything in SQL
server
in the datatypes that will preserve the text as typed ...?

Regards - Paul






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RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX 6.1 - Now I'm REALLY hacked off with it

2004-05-04 Thread Damian Watson
More likely to be terrorism, Macromedia released a solar flare patch
with the latest update.

-Original Message-
From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 May 2004 17:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] DWMX 6.1 - Now I'm REALLY hacked off with it

Solar flares?



 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 04 May 2004 09:32
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] DWMX 6.1 - Now I'm REALLY hacked off with it
 
 
 Snake Hollywood wrote:
 
 DWMX is poo, use Homesite+
 DWMX also saves your files as barf and loses all your work 
 as well. It 
 also crashes and loses all your work. It is also as slow as 
 an old lady 
 trying to get on the bus with her zimmerframe.
 
 Perhaps if I had a Pc with a 50ghz processor and 20 
 gigaflops of memory 
 it might run ok. But alas I only have a megre 2.4ghz cpu and 
 1gb ram, 
 which obviously is not powerful enough for the mighty DWMX
   
 
 Never one for understatement are you Russ!
 
 I don't think DWMX is *that* bad. I also don't think (as lots 
 of people 
 do) that Homesite/CFStudio is the *best* CF IDE out there!  I just 
 wanted to ask a question as to why DWMX was crashing on me with an 
 internationalised site when it hadn't before!
 
 Paul
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] URL parameters

2004-04-29 Thread Damian Watson
Paul,

One thing you could do is when the user logs in you set a session
variable of the ID number he is allowed to view data for... then you
just need to check that the URL ID matches that. If users have multiple
schools they can access, then you just need to make that session
variable a list.

HTH
d

-Original Message-
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Sent: 29 April 2004 12:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] URL parameters


Hi,

I wonder if anyone can help me with this please.

I have a system which shows data to schools and advisers. Advisers can
see
all data about everything. Schools can only see data from their own
school.
I have a login system (standard out of the book type)

When an adviserl logs in they are directed to a page that asks them to
select the school they are looking for.
When a school logs in they are directed to their school only.

The problem is how do I maintain this when the school user navigates
around
the site and how do I stop schools from hacking the URL and going to a
different schools data ...?

Regards - Paul

My login action script follows .


cfset Page=#url.page_id#
CFQUERY NAME= password_query DATASOURCE= WebUserDSN
SELECT * FROM user_details
WHERE   user_details.roles ='#trim(form.select_user)#'
AND user_details.password='#trim(form.entered_password)#'
AND user_details.users_name='#trim(form.entered_UserName)#'
/CFQUERY

cfoutput
  cfif password_query.RecordCount is 0
cffile action=Append
file=#application.log#
output=#DateFormat(#Now()#)#, #TimeFormat(#Now()#)#
ACCESS
DENIED!  username = #trim(form.select_user)#  Password
= #trim(form.entered_password)#.
cflocation
url=../loggedin/password.cfm?page_id=#page#nl=1
  cfelse
cffile action=Append
file=#application.log#
output=#DateFormat(#Now()#)#, #TimeFormat(#Now()#)#,
#password_query.users_name# LOGGED IN
  cflock timeout=10
  type = exclusive
  scope = session
cfset session.loggedin=1
cfset session.user
= #password_query.users_name#
cfset session.access_rights
= #password_query.roles#
  /cflock
  cfif password_query.roles eq 'Head Teacher'
cfset session.head =1
cfset
session.school=encrypt(#password_query.access#, #application.key#)
  /cfif
cflocation url=../#Page#
  /cfif
/cfoutput





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RE: [ cf-dev ] CFPARAM's

2004-04-29 Thread Damian Watson
Try using the request scope for your vars... that persists through the
compiled page-- what are the funny errors though?

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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] CFPARAM's

Hi all,

I have several cfparams in my index.cfm file which set variables like
'sectionID = 1'. In that file I have several cfincluded files (to get
the navigation, main body etc...).

Now, I keep getting funny errors where the included files are unable to
resolve the values of the parameters (for which I've set defaults in the
cfparams). It gets a little stranger in that if I browse to another page
then click back, the error's disappeared. Click refresh, it's back
again.

Any thoughts? Is it because the variables are not set in any scope that
they won't persist from the index.cfm to the included pages?

Thanks,
Damien 

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RE: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFPARAM's

2004-04-29 Thread Damian Watson
Lol, leave it aht trouble. So what are your errors then?? Have you tried
taking out your declared params to see if it breaks entirely etc?

:-P

-Original Message-
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Sent: 29 April 2004 17:43
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Subject: Re: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFPARAM's

not you again!

I would do that but I'm trawling through someone else's code and so
don't want to start changing too much.
D


 Try using the request scope for your vars... that persists through the
 compiled page-- what are the funny errors though?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 29 April 2004 17:37
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] CFPARAM's
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have several cfparams in my index.cfm file which set variables like
 'sectionID = 1'. In that file I have several cfincluded files (to get
 the navigation, main body etc...).
 
 Now, I keep getting funny errors where the included files are unable
to
 resolve the values of the parameters (for which I've set defaults in
the
 cfparams). It gets a little stranger in that if I browse to another
page
 then click back, the error's disappeared. Click refresh, it's back
 again.
 
 Any thoughts? Is it because the variables are not set in any scope
that
 they won't persist from the index.cfm to the included pages?
 
 Thanks,
 Damien 
 
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[ cf-dev ] uppercase to lowercase html

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Watson
Hey all,

Anyone have/ know of anything useful to convert any html tags in a
string from uppercase to lower case?

d


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[ cf-dev ] Reading XML

2004-04-21 Thread Damian Watson
Hey all,

I been building a CMS which generates public content as XML files. The
public site reads those docs and outputs them appropriately. I've got a
simple news xml doc here for example:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
newsItem xml:lang=en-GB
headlineTest news item/headline
date2004-04-20 00:00:00.0/date
straplineThis strapline is way cleaner than my bikini
line./strapline
article
PLorem ipsum A  href=somewhere.com target=dolor
sit amet, consetetur /Asadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy eirmod tempor
invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam voluptua. At
vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea rebum. Stet clita kasd
gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Lorem
ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy
eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam
voluptua. At vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea rebum. Stet
clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit
amet. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam
nonumy eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat,
sed diam voluptua. At vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea
rebum. Stet clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem
ipsum dolor sit amet. /P
PDuis autem vel eum iriure dolor in hendrerit in vulputate velit esse
molestie consequat, vel illum dolore eu feugiat nulla facilisis at vero
eros et accumsan et iusto odio dignissim qui blandit praesent luptatum
zzril delenit augue duis dolore te feugait nulla facilisi. Lorem ipsum
dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh
euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. /P
/article
/newsItem

--- now you'll see in the tag article I've got html code, being read
as XML.

I want to output everything inside article -- is there a simple way of
doing this... at the moment I'm looping through it's child elements, but
then there are grandchildren and great grand children and it all gets
confusing!

Thanks
d


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Reading XML

2004-04-21 Thread Damian Watson
Ah right, that'd do it. Thanks Nick ;0)

-Original Message-
From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 21 April 2004 15:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Reading XML

Do you actually want to treat the article content as XML? If not, you
can
just make it a CDATA section.

Nick

- Original Message - 
From: Damian Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:10 PM
Subject: [ cf-dev ] Reading XML


 Hey all,

 I been building a CMS which generates public content as XML files. The
 public site reads those docs and outputs them appropriately. I've got
a
 simple news xml doc here for example:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 newsItem xml:lang=en-GB
 headlineTest news item/headline
 date2004-04-20 00:00:00.0/date
 straplineThis strapline is way cleaner than my bikini
 line./strapline
 article
 PLorem ipsum A  href=somewhere.com target=dolor
 sit amet, consetetur /Asadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy eirmod
tempor
 invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam voluptua.
At
 vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea rebum. Stet clita kasd
 gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet.
Lorem
 ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy
 eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed
diam
 voluptua. At vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea rebum.
Stet
 clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor
sit
 amet. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed
diam
 nonumy eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat,
 sed diam voluptua. At vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea
 rebum. Stet clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem
 ipsum dolor sit amet. /P
 PDuis autem vel eum iriure dolor in hendrerit in vulputate velit
esse
 molestie consequat, vel illum dolore eu feugiat nulla facilisis at
vero
 eros et accumsan et iusto odio dignissim qui blandit praesent luptatum
 zzril delenit augue duis dolore te feugait nulla facilisi. Lorem ipsum
 dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh
 euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. /P
 /article
 /newsItem

 --- now you'll see in the tag article I've got html code, being read
 as XML.

 I want to output everything inside article -- is there a simple way
of
 doing this... at the moment I'm looping through it's child elements,
but
 then there are grandchildren and great grand children and it all gets
 confusing!

 Thanks
 d


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Reading XML

2004-04-21 Thread Damian Watson
This ended up being much simpler than using CDATA and bunging the
content in an attribute. For anyone wanting to do this, in the end I did
the following:

In the creation of the xml document, I used xmlFormat:
article#xmlFormat(request.selectNewsItem.newsText)#/article so that
when parsing the xml the HTML will not be mistaken for XML.

Am I missing a point here anyone? Doing any naughty stuff?

d

-Original Message-
From: Tomo Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 21 April 2004 15:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Reading XML

have a look at: ![CDATA[   ]]

should probably say you can put anything you like in
the square brackets (you do need the 2 sets...) - well
I used shit loads of html so I wouldn't have to loop:)

HTH

Tom

 --- Damian Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  Hey all,
 
 I been building a CMS which generates public content
 as XML files. The
 public site reads those docs and outputs them
 appropriately. I've got a
 simple news xml doc here for example:
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 newsItem xml:lang=en-GB
   headlineTest news item/headline
   date2004-04-20 00:00:00.0/date
   straplineThis strapline is way cleaner than my
 bikini
 line./strapline
   article
   PLorem ipsum A  href=somewhere.com
 target=dolor
 sit amet, consetetur /Asadipscing elitr, sed diam
 nonumy eirmod tempor
 invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat,
 sed diam voluptua. At
 vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea
 rebum. Stet clita kasd
 gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum
 dolor sit amet. Lorem
 ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr,
 sed diam nonumy
 eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna
 aliquyam erat, sed diam
 voluptua. At vero eos et accusam et justo duo
 dolores et ea rebum. Stet
 clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit
 amet. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur
 sadipscing elitr, sed diam
 nonumy eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore
 magna aliquyam erat,
 sed diam voluptua. At vero eos et accusam et justo
 duo dolores et ea
 rebum. Stet clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata
 sanctus est Lorem
 ipsum dolor sit amet. /P
 PDuis autem vel eum iriure dolor in hendrerit in
 vulputate velit esse
 molestie consequat, vel illum dolore eu feugiat
 nulla facilisis at vero
 eros et accumsan et iusto odio dignissim qui blandit
 praesent luptatum
 zzril delenit augue duis dolore te feugait nulla
 facilisi. Lorem ipsum
 dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed
 diam nonummy nibh
 euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam
 erat volutpat. /P
   /article
 /newsItem
 
 --- now you'll see in the tag article I've got
 html code, being read
 as XML.
 
 I want to output everything inside article -- is
 there a simple way of
 doing this... at the moment I'm looping through it's
 child elements, but
 then there are grandchildren and great grand
 children and it all gets
 confusing!
 
 Thanks
 d
 
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] why the hell doesn't this work?

2004-04-20 Thread Damian Watson









Because when it goes through the page it
looks for correct syntax before it calculates the code to execute?? so youve got two query tags before a close query tag
hence an error



Just a guess! Someone cleverer set me
straight.



-Original Message-
From: Ian Westbrook (FDM)
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Sent: 20 April 2004 14:12
To: CFUG List
Subject: [ cf-dev ] why the hell
doesn't this work?





anyone any idea why this doesn't
work?











cfif
IsDefined(form.search)
cfoutput query=allbooks
cfelse
cfoutput query=allbooks STARTROW=#the_start#
MAXROWS=#records_to_display#
/cfif





I keep getting the 'extraneous
/cfoutput tag' error from the output's close. All I'm doing is choosing
one of the output tags depending on whether a form variable exists or not. If I
use either of the output tags straight off, it works fine.











any ideas?











Ian W
















RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

2004-04-16 Thread Damian Watson
Because w3 is so goddamn dry- I wish they'd build their site better but
I guess a million people have already told em that. You need people to
make sense of it for those who are less able to understand that guff...
another plug for you Ian ;)

We need more evangelists everywhere
amen

-Original Message-
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Sent: 16 April 2004 10:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

 all you need to or want to know about accessibility


true, so how come so few web developers actually implement them?

Ian W

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Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK


 
  If anyone's interested I offer accessibility consultancy ;-)
 
  Ian W
 


 Nice pitch :D

 http://www.w3.org/WAI/

 all you need to or want to know about accessibility

 Matt


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

2004-04-16 Thread Damian Watson
I don't think that's true though Neil- you can't argue that there's a
major degradation of experience on anything other than a Flash site and
why you need a site to be in Flash is in most cases questionable. 

If you manage/ own a public space then you have to follow certain
procedures- if everyone could get away with it then there would be very
little disabled access etc -- then you would have a two tier exclusive
situation. The same is true of websites, they are a public space in a
similar sense.

I do agree it may be difficult to prosecute larger companies tho...

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2004 13:14
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

I would be very very surprised if someone could successfully proceed
with a
case and win against a site which does not include or adhere to
accessibility guidelines - agree with Taz, its entirely up to the
freedom
of speech and thought how you move forward with a site 

There would be uproar if someone shut a site down as in some cases you
could
counter the whole scenario by saying that by making it accessible may
lead
to the whole experience being degraded which means able-bodied (or
whatever
term you want to use) are being discriminated against.

It's a no win situation whatever way you look at it.




-Original Message-
From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2004 13:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

 well, the DRC _is_ the enforcenment body, and if you read the foreword

 of the report Bert Massie, the (disabled) Chair, states quite clearly 
 that
they
 will be launching actions against companies, or supporting disabled 
 people who want to do so. They have the power to close web sites down 
 if, after advising about the issues, the site takes no notice/action.

I'll apologise in advance for being politically incorrect, but I can't
fathom why it should be illegal for a site not to be accessible to every
user.

Effectively it's more of a problem for the company involved, who may be
losing a potential revenue stream, but essentially it's up to them who
they
target their advertising and services at.

Okay, so you could call it discrimination, but then by the same token
you
could argue that book publishers are being discriminatory by not making
all
of their books available in Braille or audio. In fact, why aren't we
getting
sued for not translating sites into 60 different languages? Hey, that's
xenophobia isn't it? Chinese sites for all! 2 billion people can't all
be
wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for accessibility for all. And since nearly
all
of my work has to conform to RNIB guidelines (among others), I tend to
build
in accessibility from the start. But I get the feeling that all this
political correctness is getting just a little out of hand.

I agree that sites should be accessible to as many people as possible.
But
if the Government want to get the electronic UK on the map as the best
in
the world, why don't they offer incentives to businesses to implement
these
things, instead of the draconian attitude of biting off the hand that's
paying taxes.

Oh crap! I've gone all serious again.

Nob Giblets!

Taz


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

2004-04-16 Thread Damian Watson








How exactly?



and free speech is in any case a
different thing entirely. You need access to a democracy or
~whatever~ to exercise that freedom, were talking about access.



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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website
accessibility in the UK




also, in UK law there is no such thing as freedom of
speech, although the European human rights act does give us it. There is
however a very real Disability Discrimination Act.  

you
might as well say that by making a site cross-browser compliant you're
discriminating against IE users. 







 
  
  
  
  
  Robertson-Ravo, Neil
  (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  16/04/2004 13:14 
  Please
  respond to dev 
  
  
  
  
 To:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 cc: 
  
 Subject:RE: [ cf-dev ]
  Website accessibility in the UK
  
 




I would be very very surprised if someone could
successfully proceed with a
case and win against a site which does not include or adhere to
accessibility guidelines - agree with Taz, its entirely up to the
freedom
of speech and thought how you move forward with a site 

There would be uproar if someone shut a site down as in some cases you could
counter the whole scenario by saying that by making it accessible may lead
to the whole experience being degraded which means able-bodied (or whatever
term you want to use) are being discriminated against.

It's a no win situation whatever way you look at it.




-Original Message-
From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2004 13:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

 well, the DRC _is_ the enforcenment body, and if you read the foreword 
 of the report Bert Massie, the (disabled) Chair, states quite clearly 
 that
they
 will be launching actions against companies, or supporting disabled 
 people who want to do so. They have the power to close web sites down 
 if, after advising about the issues, the site takes no notice/action.

I'll apologise in advance for being politically incorrect, but I can't
fathom why it should be illegal for a site not to be accessible to every
user.

Effectively it's more of a problem for the company involved, who may be
losing a potential revenue stream, but essentially it's up to them who they
target their advertising and services at.

Okay, so you could call it discrimination, but then by the same token you
could argue that book publishers are being discriminatory by not making all
of their books available in Braille or audio. In fact, why aren't we getting
sued for not translating sites into 60 different languages? Hey, that's
xenophobia isn't it? Chinese sites for all! 2 billion people can't all be
wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for accessibility for all. And since nearly all
of my work has to conform to RNIB guidelines (among others), I tend to build
in accessibility from the start. But I get the feeling that all this
political correctness is getting just a little out of hand.

I agree that sites should be accessible to as many people as possible. But
if the Government want to get the electronic UK on the map as the best in
the world, why don't they offer incentives to businesses to implement these
things, instead of the draconian attitude of biting off the hand that's
paying taxes.

Oh crap! I've gone all serious again.

Nob Giblets!

Taz


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RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

2004-04-16 Thread Damian Watson
If it's a personal use website then they ain't going to come knocking on
your door. If it's an organizational one then the law will come into
action and in that case it's not your website.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2004 13:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK


I can understand how it can be argued that a government organisation or
similar sites should be made accessible but by forcing me to make my
sites
accessible is like someone coming to my house and telling me i have to
put
ramps on my steps and install a lift for disabled people to get
upstairs.

Its my house.  If I dont want to install this stuff, i amnt going to.

Not that i dont agree that accessibility should be taken seriously and
should be a part of every good website.  I just dont agree that anyone
should be able to sue me for the way i want to program my sites.

James




 

Ian

WestbrookTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
\(FDM\) cc:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ]
Website accessibility in the UK   
eam.net

 

16/04/2004

13:30

Please

respond to

dev

 

 






 I do agree it may be difficult to prosecute larger companies tho...

only from the perspective of the cost of litigation. It's actually
_easier_
to prosecute large companies, I would imagine, because they can't argue
mitigating factors (ie cost) as an issue. 'So, Mr Nat West, you're owned
by
Royal Bank of Scotland, which made £6.5billion in pre-tax profits last
year.
Why isn't your web site accessible?'...

Ian W


- Original Message -
From: Damian Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK


 I don't think that's true though Neil- you can't argue that there's a
 major degradation of experience on anything other than a Flash site
and
 why you need a site to be in Flash is in most cases questionable.

 If you manage/ own a public space then you have to follow certain
 procedures- if everyone could get away with it then there would be
very
 little disabled access etc -- then you would have a two tier exclusive
 situation. The same is true of websites, they are a public space in a
 similar sense.

 I do agree it may be difficult to prosecute larger companies tho...

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 16 April 2004 13:14
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

 I would be very very surprised if someone could successfully proceed
 with a
 case and win against a site which does not include or adhere to
 accessibility guidelines - agree with Taz, its entirely up to the
 freedom
 of speech and thought how you move forward with a site

 There would be uproar if someone shut a site down as in some cases you
 could
 counter the whole scenario by saying that by making it accessible may
 lead
 to the whole experience being degraded which means able-bodied (or
 whatever
 term you want to use) are being discriminated against.

 It's a no win situation whatever way you look at it.




 -Original Message-
 From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 16 April 2004 13:04
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

  well, the DRC _is_ the enforcenment body, and if you read the
foreword

  of the report Bert Massie, the (disabled) Chair, states quite
clearly
  that
 they
  will be launching actions against companies, or supporting disabled
  people who want to do so. They have the power to close web sites
down
  if, after advising about the issues, the site takes no
notice/action.

 I'll apologise in advance for being politically incorrect, but I can't
 fathom why it should be illegal for a site not to be accessible to
every
 user.

 Effectively it's more of a problem for the company involved, who may
be
 losing a potential revenue stream, but essentially it's up to them who
 they
 target their advertising and services at.

 Okay, so you could call it discrimination, but then by the same token
 you
 could argue that book publishers are being discriminatory by not
making
 all
 of their books available in Braille or audio. In fact, why aren't we
 getting
 sued for not translating sites into 60 different languages? Hey,
that's
 xenophobia isn't it? Chinese sites for all! 2 billion people can't all
 be
 wrong.

 Don't get me wrong, I'm all for accessibility for all. And since
nearly
 all
 of my work has to conform to RNIB guidelines (among others), I tend to
 build
 in accessibility from the start. But I get the feeling that all this
 political correctness

RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

2004-04-16 Thread Damian Watson








Sorry Duncan, didnt spot the sarcasm ;)



To bring this back round to ColdFusion-
how do people ensure that code generated in a CMS is accessible (for instance
through a custom tag like activedit or soEditor). I currently use a module that strips any MS
style rubbish but it would be interesting to know what other people do



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2004 13:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website
accessibility in the UK




you might as well say that by making a site
cross-browser compliant you're discriminating against IE users. 

-
I was meaning that sarcastically, just trying to extend Neil's argument to
another example that showed up it's flaws. Maybe another analogy:

allowing
people of any race to apply for a job ~= accessible website; 
discriminating
in favour of a specific race ~= not-accessible website. 

It's
not positive discrimination to make it accessible, which I think is Neil's
point of view. 

my
point re: freedom of speech is that it would be hard to legally defend yourself
on this basis alone. but it will be very easy for the DRC to use the DDA
to get succesful prosecutions (after October anyway). Which is a good
thing, as it'll mean clients and ourselves will be much more aware of the
issues, and more likely to build accessible sites. which is a good thing,
right? 






 
  
  
  
  
  Damian Watson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  16/04/2004 13:28 
  Please
  respond to dev 
  
  
  
  
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 cc: 
  
 Subject:RE: [ cf-dev ]
  Website accessibility in the UK
  
 




How exactly? 

 

and free speech is
in any case a different thing entirely. You need access to a
democracy or ~whatever~ to exercise that freedom, we're talking
about access. 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 16 April 2004 13:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK


 


also, in UK law there is no such thing as freedom of speech, although the
European human rights act does give us it. There is however a very real
Disability Discrimination Act.  

you might as well say that by making a site cross-browser compliant you're
discriminating against IE users. 






 
  
   
  
  
  Robertson-Ravo, Neil
  (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  16/04/2004 13:14 
  Please respond to dev 
  
  
  
 To:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 cc: 
 Subject:RE: [ cf-dev ]
  Website accessibility in the UK
  
 




I would be very very surprised if someone could successfully proceed with a
case and win against a site which does not include or adhere to
accessibility guidelines - agree with Taz, its entirely up to the
freedom
of speech and thought how you move forward with a site 

There would be uproar if someone shut a site down as in some cases you could
counter the whole scenario by saying that by making it accessible may lead
to the whole experience being degraded which means able-bodied (or whatever
term you want to use) are being discriminated against.

It's a no win situation whatever way you look at it.




-Original Message-
From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2004 13:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

 well, the DRC _is_ the enforcenment body, and if you read the foreword 
 of the report Bert Massie, the (disabled) Chair, states quite clearly 
 that
they
 will be launching actions against companies, or supporting disabled 
 people who want to do so. They have the power to close web sites down 
 if, after advising about the issues, the site takes no notice/action.

I'll apologise in advance for being politically incorrect, but I can't
fathom why it should be illegal for a site not to be accessible to every
user.

Effectively it's more of a problem for the company involved, who may be
losing a potential revenue stream, but essentially it's up to them who they
target their advertising and services at.

Okay, so you could call it discrimination, but then by the same token you
could argue that book publishers are being discriminatory by not making all
of their books available in Braille or audio. In fact, why aren't we getting
sued for not translating sites into 60 different languages? Hey, that's
xenophobia isn't it? Chinese sites for all! 2 billion people can't all be
wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for accessibility for all. And since nearly all
of my work has to conform to RNIB guidelines (among others), I tend to build
in accessibility from the start. But I get the feeling that all this
political correctness is getting just a little out of hand.

I agree that sites should be accessible to as many people as possible. But
if the Government want to get the electronic UK on the map as the best in
the world, why don't they offer incentives to businesses to implement these
things, instead of the draconian

RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

2004-04-16 Thread Damian Watson








Nah, I use one called CleanFields
that I got from devex a while back- its pretty
good (not perfect!) and I lock down the editors quite heavily so that users
cant go nuts with crazy paving and what not. The HTML produced is
generally clean but I was wondering if there were other methods out there-
Paul, you mentioned your CMS is accessible, so how do you handle this?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 16 April 2004 14:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website
accessibility in the UK




damian - is that the tag by Taz, or did you make your own? One of
the major problems I've found with soEditor is it's tendency to create nonsense
HTML, especially if you start playing around too much with formatting, or if
you paste via Word. Taz's CleanMSText custom tag helps a little bit, but there's
still loads of problems with the html that gets produced. 














RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

2004-04-16 Thread Damian Watson
Total agreement with you there... it's really the large blocks of user
fed formatted text that I'm thinking of though. Site formatting/ styling
is easy to make accessible, it's those user input bits that can be
problematic.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2004 14:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

Damian Watson wrote:
 
 
 Nah, I use one called CleanFields that I got from devex a while back- 
 it's pretty good (not perfect!) and I lock down the editors quite 
 heavily so that users can't go nuts with crazy paving and what not.
The 
 HTML produced is generally clean but I was wondering if there were
other 
 methods out there- Paul, you mentioned your CMS is accessible, so how
do 
 you handle this?

Not sure if you were asking me or not (don't remember saying anything 
about accessibility on my CMS)...

Anyway, the way I would go about it (in CF) is by ensuring that the 
content created by any user, goes into the correct place in the system, 
and can be used correctly by the system.

An example: if you create a website with images (kinda basic I know), 
you create a CMS to administer and store all the images, and retrieve 
them as and when.  Every time an image is retrieved, if there is 
meta-data stating what should go in the alt tag, then put it in. 
Otherwise, just put [image] or something.

Basically, don't allow anyone to put in images to HTML except through 
specified interface (not even via FTP).  We all know this is a little 
pie-in-the-sky but it's about the only way I know of ensuring 
accessibility with content editors who don't know about standards.

Let's face it, unless you block of all content editors from the layout 
of the site, you will ALWAYS have problems!

Paul

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

2004-04-16 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message









Thats clients they
dont count :-$



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Sent: 16 April 2004 15:55
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website
accessibility in the UK





but what
yoyu do about stupid people that just can't use the internet, click on a link
or tell the difference between a banner and a button, huh, huh




























RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK

2004-04-16 Thread Damian Watson









Richard, its a question of
regulating commercial and public organisations not sites like your football
site, something of that scale is more a case of common sense. Thats what
the law is really concerned about.



However IMHO programming with accessibility
and standards in mind in the first place makes for better, cleaner websites-
life is easier for you as a developer if you get into the habit. A personal
bugbear as someone else mentioned is indiscriminate flash use. Why do it? To go with the owners Toni  Guy hairstyle? It aint good design- neither is inaccessible
programming!



-Original Message-
From: Lovelock, Richard J
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2004 15:31
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website
accessibility in the UK





yes I
agree with you completely Duncan - I realise it isn't just blindness - I was
just using that as an example











to be
honest, I have never come across anything to do with dyslexia and colour
schemes in any of the work i have been involved in, so I can't comment on this
- although I find it hard to conceive that corporations with corporate colour
schemes would give this great consideration!? (although maybe completely wrong
here)











your
point about if something happened to one of my playersat some
pointstill fits for the point I am raising -which is the fact
that perhaps it should still be up to the person delivering the
content.If one of my players became blind or deaf, or one of my players
told me that a family member couldn't use the site etc then accessibility would
certainly be more important to me and, given that it is my site, I would make
the decision to do something about it but I don't think it should be forced on
me by law nor do I think it should be for every web site on the Internet. 











Obviously
one can not determine one's viewing audience completely, that is one of the
beauties of the Internet and I still agree for services that would be used by
the less abled, accessibility should be important. I am making the point that I
don't think necessarily appropriate toforce it upon every web
developer/site by law because I don't think that is appropriate. 











Some
websites, including parts related to large organisations, are purely for
information purposes - just as adverts/information on billboards and posters in
streets, trains, buses etc - yet there is no legislation to say all of these
posters must also speak out loud or have braille etc




























RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK

2004-04-15 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message









Well surely some of the DfES stuff is
worth mentioning i.e. TeacherNet the whole
department more or less exclusively uses ColdFusion and spends (probably) in
the millions per year on CF driven websites Damo
 submit it as a showcase! So
Macromedia have one big government client  why dont I see more evangelizing
to other departments US gov has a huge CF
presence if Im not mistaken and the UK government usually does anything
they say in IT 



For small-medium clients there needs to be
quick and dirty statistical information from somewhere authoritative to show
that 



a) development
time can be reduced 

b) code can be
more easily redeveloped

c) costs can be
kept down



As someone else said, its a
question of positioning not quality of product



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 15 April
 2004 12:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [
cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK





would
it be an idea to compile a list of good CF sites? Maybe hand it to MM on a
plate?!





-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 11:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK


those two were sites of the day in spring 2002. Has
there really not been any UK CF sites worth mentioning in the last 2 years?








 
  
  
  
  
  Paul Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  15/04/2004 11:37 
  Please
  respond to dev 
  
  
  
  
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 cc: 
  
 Subject:Re: [ cf-dev ] The
  state of ColdFusion in the UK
  
 




Matt Horn wrote:
Anyway... enough of a rant! I want CF to survive and thrive again, so 
that we can ALL benefit from it! Come on MM... no-one's blaming you for

stuff, but PLEASE can you provide more info for those developers who
are 
trying to sell to others! We ALL need to be CF evangelists!

Paul
 
 
 Amen!
 
 Matt Horn
 Church of Cold Fusion


Thank you brother for your support!

For those interested, the ColdFusion showcase (of 2 sites) on the
MM 
UK site:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductid=13189loc=en_gb

Paul

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RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK

2004-04-15 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message









Not for long eh?.
Pleease J



-Original Message-i
From: Stephen
 Pope
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 15:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [
cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK



But its
ColdFusion 5 :¬) 







From: Damian
Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 15:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK

Well
surely some of the DfES stuff is worth mentioning i.e. TeacherNet the
whole department more or less exclusively uses ColdFusion and spends (probably)
in the millions per year on CF driven websites Damo  submit it as
a showcase!  So Macromedia have one big
government client  why dont I see more evangelizing to other
departments US gov has a huge CF presence if Im not mistaken and the UK government usually does anything they say in IT 



For
small-medium clients there needs to be quick and dirty statistical information
from somewhere authoritative to show that 



a)
development time can be reduced 

b) code
can be more easily redeveloped

c) costs
can be kept down



As
someone else said, its a question of positioning not quality of
product



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 12:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK





would
it be an idea to compile a list of good CF sites? Maybe hand it to MM on a
plate?!





-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 11:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK


those two were sites of the day in spring 2002. Has there really
not been any UK CF sites worth mentioning in the last 2 years? 







 
  
  
  
  
  Paul Johnston
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  15/04/2004 11:37 
  Please
  respond to dev 
  
  
  
  
 To:   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 cc: 
  
 Subject:Re: [ cf-dev ] The
  state of ColdFusion in the UK
  
 




Matt Horn wrote:
Anyway... enough of a rant! I want CF to survive and thrive again, so 
that we can ALL benefit from it! Come on MM... no-one's blaming you for

stuff, but PLEASE can you provide more info for those developers who
are 
trying to sell to others! We ALL need to be CF evangelists!

Paul
 
 
 Amen!
 
 Matt Horn
 Church
 of Cold
Fusion


Thank you brother for your support!

For those interested, the ColdFusion showcase (of 2 sites) on the
MM 
UK
site:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductid=13189loc=en_gb

Paul

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RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK

2004-04-15 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message









I dont think that should matter
theyre still promoting sites from 2002 so what does that tell you!



-Original Message-
From: Stephen Pope
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 15:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK



Just to
clarify .. MM prolly wouldn't want to promote a CF5 site hehe









From: Stephen
Pope 
Sent: 15 April 2004 15:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK

But its
ColdFusion 5 :¬) 







From: Damian
Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 15:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK

Well
surely some of the DfES stuff is worth mentioning i.e. TeacherNet the
whole department more or less exclusively uses ColdFusion and spends (probably)
in the millions per year on CF driven websites Damo  submit it as
a showcase!  So Macromedia have one big
government client  why dont I see more evangelizing to other
departments US gov has a huge CF presence if Im not mistaken and the UK government usually does anything they say in IT 



For
small-medium clients there needs to be quick and dirty statistical information
from somewhere authoritative to show that 



a)
development time can be reduced 

b) code
can be more easily redeveloped

c) costs
can be kept down



As
someone else said, its a question of positioning not quality of
product



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 12:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK





would
it be an idea to compile a list of good CF sites? Maybe hand it to MM on a
plate?!





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 11:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK


those two were sites of the day in spring 2002. Has there really
not been any UK CF sites worth mentioning in the last 2 years? 







 
  
  
  
  
  Paul Johnston
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  15/04/2004 11:37 
  Please
  respond to dev 
  
  
  
  
 To:   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 cc: 
  
 Subject:Re: [ cf-dev ] The
  state of ColdFusion in the UK
  
 




Matt Horn wrote:
Anyway... enough of a rant! I want CF to survive and thrive again, so 
that we can ALL benefit from it! Come on MM... no-one's blaming you for

stuff, but PLEASE can you provide more info for those developers who
are 
trying to sell to others! We ALL need to be CF evangelists!

Paul
 
 
 Amen!
 
 Matt Horn
 Church of Cold Fusion


Thank you brother for your support!

For those interested, the ColdFusion showcase (of 2 sites) on the
MM 
UK site:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductid=13189loc=en_gb

Paul

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RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK

2004-04-15 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message








I wooda thought
that a company/ department using CF over a number of years (5 in this case)
moving from CF 4.5 to 5 to MX (hopefully) would be a wonderful example for a
case study  Damo, do you wanna
speak to your people?



-Original Message-
From: Lucas Sherwood
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 17:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK



Nope
spot on

But in
this case we might (being government and all) I actually can not say.

We would
need the people responsible to sign it off first (see other mail)



L.











From: Stephen
Pope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 3:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK





Just to
clarify .. MM prolly wouldn't want to promote a CF5 site hehe









From: Stephen
Pope 
Sent: 15 April 2004 15:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK

But its
ColdFusion 5 :¬) 







From: Damian
Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 15:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK

Well
surely some of the DfES stuff is worth mentioning i.e. TeacherNet the
whole department more or less exclusively uses ColdFusion and spends (probably)
in the millions per year on CF driven websites Damo  submit it as
a showcase! So Macromedia have one big government client  why
dont I see more evangelizing to other departments US gov has a
huge CF presence if Im not mistaken and the UK government usually does
anything they say in IT 



For
small-medium clients there needs to be quick and dirty statistical information
from somewhere authoritative to show that 



a)
development time can be reduced 

b) code
can be more easily redeveloped

c) costs
can be kept down



As
someone else said, its a question of positioning not quality of
product



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 12:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK





would
it be an idea to compile a list of good CF sites? Maybe hand it to MM on a
plate?!





-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 11:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK


those two were sites of the day in spring 2002. Has there really
not been any UK CF sites worth mentioning in the last 2 years? 






 
  
  
  
  
  Paul Johnston
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  15/04/2004
  11:37 
  Please
  respond to dev 
  
  
  
  
 To:   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 cc: 
  
 Subject:Re: [ cf-dev ] The
  state of ColdFusion in the UK
  
 




Matt Horn wrote:
Anyway... enough of a rant! I want CF to survive and thrive again, so 
that we can ALL benefit from it! Come on MM... no-one's blaming you for

stuff, but PLEASE can you provide more info for those developers who
are 
trying to sell to others! We ALL need to be CF evangelists!

Paul
 
 
 Amen!
 
 Matt Horn
 Church of Cold Fusion


Thank you brother for your support!

For those interested, the ColdFusion showcase (of 2 sites) on the
MM 
UK site:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductid=13189loc=en_gb

Paul

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RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK

2004-04-15 Thread Damian Watson
Title: Message








Well Im only a smalltime
supplier of theirs these days but I know who to speak to- Ill get on it.
;0)



-Original Message-
From: Lucas Sherwood
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 18:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK



Hi
Damin,

Yes we
would. We would love this as a cause study

Can you
write up a synopsis and also approach the customer to give us clearance to use
it.

When
they have said yes, drop me a line and we can go forward.



L.











From: Damian
Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 5:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK





I wooda
thought that a company/ department using CF over a number of years (5 in this
case) moving from CF 4.5 to 5 to MX (hopefully) would be a wonderful example
for a case study  Damo, do you wanna speak to your people?



-Original Message-
From: Lucas Sherwood
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 17:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK



Nope
spot on

But in
this case we might (being government and all) I actually can not say.

We would
need the people responsible to sign it off first (see other mail)



L.















From: Stephen Pope
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 3:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK





Just to
clarify .. MM prolly wouldn't want to promote a CF5 site hehe













From: Stephen
Pope 
Sent: 15 April 2004 15:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK

But its
ColdFusion 5 :¬) 











From: Damian
Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 15:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK

Well
surely some of the DfES stuff is worth mentioning i.e. TeacherNet the
whole department more or less exclusively uses ColdFusion and spends (probably)
in the millions per year on CF driven websites Damo  submit it as
a showcase! So Macromedia have one big government client  why
dont I see more evangelizing to other departments US gov has a
huge CF presence if Im not mistaken and the UK government usually does
anything they say in IT 



For
small-medium clients there needs to be quick and dirty statistical information
from somewhere authoritative to show that 



a)
development time can be reduced 

b) code
can be more easily redeveloped

c) costs
can be kept down



As
someone else said, its a question of positioning not quality of
product



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 12:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK





would
it be an idea to compile a list of good CF sites? Maybe hand it to MM on a
plate?!





-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 April 2004 11:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state
of ColdFusion in the UK


those two were sites of the day in spring 2002. Has there really
not been any UK CF sites worth mentioning in the last 2 years? 





 
  
  
  
  
  Paul Johnston
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  15/04/2004
  11:37 
  Please
  respond to dev 
  
  
  
  
 To:   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 cc: 
  
 Subject:Re: [ cf-dev ] The
  state of ColdFusion in the UK
  
 




Matt Horn wrote:
Anyway... enough of a rant! I want CF to survive and thrive again, so 
that we can ALL benefit from it! Come on MM... no-one's blaming you for

stuff, but PLEASE can you provide more info for those developers who
are 
trying to sell to others! We ALL need to be CF evangelists!

Paul
 
 
 Amen!
 
 Matt Horn
 Church of Cold Fusion


Thank you brother for your support!

For those interested, the ColdFusion showcase (of 2 sites) on the
MM 
UK site:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductid=13189loc=en_gb

Paul

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RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

2004-04-07 Thread Damian Watson
That's not the case, I've been through this with Sanjay. This 404
happens when an error occurs in the action page (or elsewhere in his
wwwroot). We set up a site wide error handler but is that not working
now Sanjay?

d

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2004 16:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

sanjay sidar wrote:

 i think it may be, im not to sure, whenever i press submit, the page 
 gets redirected to a searchengine page called www.perfectnav etc, 
 it may be how do i check if its an internal error, and would you know 
 how to rectify it?


Sounds like you've mis-typed the domain name in the action of your form
to something that doesn't exist and IE is kindly redirecting you to that
search engine for you.  As everyone else has said make sure you have the
correct file name in the action of your form.

Also, when you post a new question to the list or the forums please 
create a new email rather than replying to an existing thread.  Thank
you.

Stephen



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RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

2004-04-07 Thread Damian Watson
Ah, so it b Spyware :)

-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2004 16:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

That's not the case, I've been through this with Sanjay. This 404
happens when an error occurs in the action page (or elsewhere in his
wwwroot). We set up a site wide error handler but is that not working
now Sanjay?

d

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2004 16:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

sanjay sidar wrote:

 i think it may be, im not to sure, whenever i press submit, the page 
 gets redirected to a searchengine page called www.perfectnav etc, 
 it may be how do i check if its an internal error, and would you know 
 how to rectify it?


Sounds like you've mis-typed the domain name in the action of your form
to something that doesn't exist and IE is kindly redirecting you to that
search engine for you.  As everyone else has said make sure you have the
correct file name in the action of your form.

Also, when you post a new question to the list or the forums please 
create a new email rather than replying to an existing thread.  Thank
you.

Stephen



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RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

2004-04-07 Thread Damian Watson
Hmmm... I've been through this meticulously with Sanjay (over Messenger)

Commented out all code on action page and replaced with hello, then
the form hit the action page fine. As soon as there is anything that
could error in the page then this happens.

He seems to be able to get no error messages whatsoever... I don't know
much on the CF server side of things so am out of ideas. Debugging
settings etc are turned on.

!?!?!?!

-Original Message-
From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2004 16:10
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

yes but the spyware only replaces the default IIS messages as far as I
am
aware (!??) so if it is not a mispelled page name or is not a missing
action
page file then the CF Error message should still get shown ? )

which would suggest that the action page isn't there or is mis-spelled
in
the form page

___
Regards, 
Richard Lovelock, 
Senior Application Analyst.

Westminster City Council - Web Support
Cap Gemini Ernst  Young
Southbank
95 Wandsworth Road
London 
SW8 2HG 
Tel: 0870 906 7482
 
___


-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2004 16:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error


Ah, so it b Spyware :)

-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2004 16:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

That's not the case, I've been through this with Sanjay. This 404
happens when an error occurs in the action page (or elsewhere in his
wwwroot). We set up a site wide error handler but is that not working
now Sanjay?

d

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2004 16:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

sanjay sidar wrote:

 i think it may be, im not to sure, whenever i press submit, the page 
 gets redirected to a searchengine page called www.perfectnav etc, 
 it may be how do i check if its an internal error, and would you know 
 how to rectify it?


Sounds like you've mis-typed the domain name in the action of your form
to something that doesn't exist and IE is kindly redirecting you to that
search engine for you.  As everyone else has said make sure you have the
correct file name in the action of your form.

Also, when you post a new question to the list or the forums please 
create a new email rather than replying to an existing thread.  Thank
you.

Stephen



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RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

2004-04-07 Thread Damian Watson
Where the error is known and I've pointed them out to Sanjay, getting
his error reporting to work is the problem.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2004 16:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

post the code here, and we might spot the error...

- Original Message - 
From: Damian Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error


 Hmmm... I've been through this meticulously with Sanjay (over
Messenger)

 Commented out all code on action page and replaced with hello, then
 the form hit the action page fine. As soon as there is anything that
 could error in the page then this happens.

 He seems to be able to get no error messages whatsoever... I don't
know
 much on the CF server side of things so am out of ideas. Debugging
 settings etc are turned on.

 !?!?!?!

 -Original Message-
 From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 07 April 2004 16:10
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

 yes but the spyware only replaces the default IIS messages as far as I
 am
 aware (!??) so if it is not a mispelled page name or is not a missing
 action
 page file then the CF Error message should still get shown ? )

 which would suggest that the action page isn't there or is mis-spelled
 in
 the form page

 ___
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 Senior Application Analyst.

 Westminster City Council - Web Support
 Cap Gemini Ernst  Young
 Southbank
 95 Wandsworth Road
 London
 SW8 2HG
 Tel: 0870 906 7482

 ___


 -Original Message-
 From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 07 April 2004 16:08
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error


 Ah, so it b Spyware :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 07 April 2004 16:04
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

 That's not the case, I've been through this with Sanjay. This 404
 happens when an error occurs in the action page (or elsewhere in his
 wwwroot). We set up a site wide error handler but is that not working
 now Sanjay?

 d

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 07 April 2004 16:02
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

 sanjay sidar wrote:

  i think it may be, im not to sure, whenever i press submit, the page
  gets redirected to a searchengine page called www.perfectnav
etc,
  it may be how do i check if its an internal error, and would you
know
  how to rectify it?


 Sounds like you've mis-typed the domain name in the action of your
form
 to something that doesn't exist and IE is kindly redirecting you to
that
 search engine for you.  As everyone else has said make sure you have
the
 correct file name in the action of your form.

 Also, when you post a new question to the list or the forums please
 create a new email rather than replying to an existing thread.  Thank
 you.

 Stephen



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RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

2004-04-07 Thread Damian Watson
Sorry guys but we need to back track. I've been trying to teach Sanjay
how to debug so that when he posts he can supply more details. Yes
there's errors in the code there but fixing them each time without him
seeing what the problem is ain't gonna help. Because he's having this
error reporting (SpyWare?) problem it has been pretty difficult, if that
can be sorted then life should be much easier.

d


-Original Message-
From: sanjay sidar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2004 16:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error

yes sorry this code should be in the above query, i was thinking that 
prehaps the best way to do it was one search at a time, so like try to 
search just for the employee_names first, and if that works then apply
the 
same metohd with the rest


From: Tom Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:32:35 +0100

  cfquery name=rsSearch datasource=sanjay_1
  SELECT employee_name, company_name, country, region,
  position,department, section, random
  FROM tblAdmins
  WHERE 1 = 1
  cfif isdefined(form.employee_name) and form.employee_name neq 
  AND employee_name LIKE '%#form.employee_name#%'
  /cfif
  /cfquery

  cfoutput query=rsSearch
  #employee_name#
  /cfoutput

this bit here's going to throw some errors - where's the rest of the
query
tag, or should this code be in the above query,
Also note, I change the case of the tags to lower case as it's easier
to
read.

  cfif isdefined(form.company_name) and form.company_name neq 
  AND company_name = '#form.company_name#'
  cfif isdefined(form.country) and form.country neq 
  AND country = '#form.country#'
  /cfif
  cfif isdefined(form.region ) and form.region neq 
  AND region = '#form.region #'
  /cfif
  cfif isdefined(form.section ) and form.section neq 
  AND section = '#form.section #'
  /cfif
  cfif isdefined(form.position) and form.position neq 
  AND position = '#form.position#'
  /cfif
  cfif isdefined(form.department ) and form.department neq 
  AND department = '#form.department #'
  /cfif
  /cfquery

- Original Message -
From: sanjay sidar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error


  cfquery name=rsSearch datasource=sanjay_1
  SELECT employee_name, company_name, country, region,
  position,department, section, random
  FROM tblAdmins
  WHERE 1 = 1
  CFIF isDefined(form.employee_name) and form.employee_name neq 
  AND employee_name LIKE '%#form.employee_name#%'
  /cfif
  /cfquery
  cfoutput query=rsSearch
  #employee_name#
  /cfoutput
 
 
 
  CFIF isDefined(form.company_name) and form.company_name neq 
  AND company_name = '#form.company_name#'
  CFIF isDefined(form.country) and form.country neq 
  AND country = '#form.country#'
  /CFIF
  CFIF isDefined(form.region ) and form.region neq 
  AND region = '#form.region #'
  /CFIF
  CFIF isDefined(form.section ) and form.section neq 
  AND section = '#form.section #'
  /CFIF
  CFIF isDefined(form.position) and form.position neq 
  AND position = '#form.position#'
  /CFIF
  CFIF isDefined(form.department ) and form.department neq 
  AND department = '#form.department #'
  /CFIF
  /cfquery
 
 
  From: Tom Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] 404 error
  Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:17:08 +0100
  
  post the code here, and we might spot the error...
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Damian Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:14 PM
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error
  
  
Hmmm... I've been through this meticulously with Sanjay (over
Messenger)
   
Commented out all code on action page and replaced with hello,

then
the form hit the action page fine. As soon as there is anything
that
could error in the page then this happens.
   
He seems to be able to get no error messages whatsoever... I
don't
know
much on the CF server side of things so am out of ideas.
Debugging
settings etc are turned on.
   
!?!?!?!
   
-Original Message-
From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 April 2004 16:10
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] 404 error
   
yes but the spyware only replaces the default IIS messages as
far as 
I
am
aware (!??) so if it is not a mispelled page name or is not a 
missing
action
page file then the CF Error message should still get shown ? )
   
which would suggest that the action page isn't there or is 
mis-spelled
in
the form page
   
___
Regards,
Richard Lovelock,
Senior Application Analyst.
   
Westminster City Council - Web Support
Cap Gemini Ernst  Young
Southbank
95 Wandsworth Road
London
SW8 2HG
Tel: 0870 906

RE: [ cf-dev ] search problems

2004-04-06 Thread Damian Watson
Sanjay,

When you do a SELECT query (when you say search you mean SELECT) you
are asking the database for records. This you have done. However, you
haven't asked the coldfusion template to display those records. This is
done using the cfoutput tag so you should read about that.

For instance, after your query in your search.cfm if you were to put:

cfoutput query=rsSearch
#employee_name#
/cfquery

You would receive results supplying all the employee names.

There is another way to check if you have results of your query, this is
to use cfdump which I have showed you before. In this case you would
use:

cfdump var=#rsSearch#

This will output on the page any data resulting from your query called
rsSearch.

Note that cfoutput is the tag you need to learn to use when you are
wanting to display data to a user.

HTH
d

-Original Message-
From: sanjay sidar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 April 2004 19:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] search problems

Hey guys i have this code that is supposed to search for data in my
access 
db.  Now i have created a form in which the search is avaliable, (called

form2.cfm) the way you search on this form is by a drop-down option ie 
choose a county, and you can select a country from the dropdown list.  I

have created an action page called search.cfm, (which is below), now
there 
is info in my database, but when i try to search for it nothing comes
up, 
and another thing im confused about is that if say the user tired to
search 
for a person's name which does exisit in my db, how do i display that?

as you may have guessed im very new to this language, so any help would
be 
much appreciated:-)

sanjay, p.s the code for the action page(search.cfm is below)


body
cfquery name=rsSearch datasource=sanjay_1
SELECT employee_name, company_name, country, region,
position,department, section, random
FROM tblAdmins
WHERE 1 = 1
CFIF isDefined(form.employee_name) and form.employee_name neq

AND employee_name = '#form.employee_name#'
CFIF isDefined(form.company_name) and form.company_name neq

AND company_name = '#form.company_name#'
CFIF isDefined(form.country) and form.country neq 
AND country = '#form.country#'
/CFIF
CFIF isDefined(form.region ) and form.region neq 
AND region = '#form.region #'
/CFIF
CFIF isDefined(form.section ) and form.section neq 
AND section = '#form.section #'
/CFIF
CFIF isDefined(form.position) and form.position neq 
AND position = '#form.position#'
/CFIF
CFIF isDefined(form.department ) and form.department neq 
AND department = '#form.department #'
/CFIF
/cfquery


/body

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RE: [ cf-dev ] search problems

2004-04-06 Thread Damian Watson
Yes, Russ posted it earlier you can use a cfif statement like:

cfif rsSearch.recordCount
!---there are some records so display them as you want---
cfelse
!---there are no records---
pRoy Castle will be dissapointed/p
/cfif

To show results, you have to (more or less) have called the data via a
query from the same template.

-Original Message-
From: sanjay sidar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 April 2004 23:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] search problems

thanks agin, but if i wanted to show the search results in another page
how 
would i do that, and what if there is nothing in my database could i
have 
some sort of a sign saying there are no items that match your search??

From: Damian Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] search problems
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 22:48:59 +0100

Sanjay,

When you do a SELECT query (when you say search you mean SELECT)
you
are asking the database for records. This you have done. However, you
haven't asked the coldfusion template to display those records. This is
done using the cfoutput tag so you should read about that.

For instance, after your query in your search.cfm if you were to put:

cfoutput query=rsSearch
   #employee_name#
/cfquery

You would receive results supplying all the employee names.

There is another way to check if you have results of your query, this
is
to use cfdump which I have showed you before. In this case you would
use:

cfdump var=#rsSearch#

This will output on the page any data resulting from your query called
rsSearch.

Note that cfoutput is the tag you need to learn to use when you are
wanting to display data to a user.

HTH
d

-Original Message-
From: sanjay sidar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 April 2004 19:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] search problems

Hey guys i have this code that is supposed to search for data in my
access
db.  Now i have created a form in which the search is avaliable,
(called

form2.cfm) the way you search on this form is by a drop-down option ie
choose a county, and you can select a country from the dropdown list.
I

have created an action page called search.cfm, (which is below), now
there
is info in my database, but when i try to search for it nothing comes
up,
and another thing im confused about is that if say the user tired to
search
for a person's name which does exisit in my db, how do i display that?

as you may have guessed im very new to this language, so any help would
be
much appreciated:-)

sanjay, p.s the code for the action page(search.cfm is below)


body
cfquery name=rsSearch datasource=sanjay_1
   SELECT employee_name, company_name, country, region,
position,department, section, random
   FROM tblAdmins
   WHERE 1 = 1
   CFIF isDefined(form.employee_name) and form.employee_name neq

   AND employee_name = '#form.employee_name#'
   CFIF isDefined(form.company_name) and form.company_name neq

   AND company_name = '#form.company_name#'
   CFIF isDefined(form.country) and form.country neq 
   AND country = '#form.country#'
   /CFIF
   CFIF isDefined(form.region ) and form.region neq 
   AND region = '#form.region #'
   /CFIF
   CFIF isDefined(form.section ) and form.section neq 
   AND section = '#form.section #'
   /CFIF
   CFIF isDefined(form.position) and form.position neq 
   AND position = '#form.position#'
   /CFIF
   CFIF isDefined(form.department ) and form.department neq 
   AND department = '#form.department #'
   /CFIF
/cfquery


/body

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RE: [ cf-dev ] image question

2004-04-05 Thread Damian Watson
Sanjay,

You need to read about the cffile tag.

The process to do what you want (in your action page) is:

1. Insert the normal data as you are already doing.

2. cffile action=upload... = upload your file to your images folder
(or wherever)

3. Then in your database table you have a varchar column called 'image'
for arguments sake. Set it to a reasonable length to get a filename
into.

UPDATE the data in the row in which the image belongs like so:

cfquery
UPDATE  tableName
SET image   =   #file.clientFile#
WHERE   ID  =   #form.id#
/cfquery

file.clientFile is the name of the uploaded file 


4. Then in your page displaying the data, you would have (inside your
cfoutput tag) something like:

img src=images/#query.image#


So to recap, what you have done in your action page is: 

insert the data
upload the file
update the data adding the filename

HTH
d


-Original Message-
From: sanjay sidar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 April 2004 21:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] image question

hi guys i am creating an image library of company directors.  At the
moment 
i can add written information via my webpage into be access db.  I was 
wondering how would i upload images and insert them into my database, so

that if someone using my site wishes to view a specific director then 
his/hers picture will also come up as well as information on that
person.  
My site will be used by a company a consist of an authosied users
section 
(which i have created by the way),

cheers


From: Stephen Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] displaying images 4 across in a table...
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 13:21:16 -0700

The logic to do it works something like this:

!--- The number of columns required ---
cfset cols = 4
!--- The number of loop iterations to run through ---
cfset records = 50
!--- The number of empty cells to put in the final row ---
cfset padding = records mod cols

!--- Open the table tag and first row ---
table
tr

!--- Loop over the recordset, array or whatever ---
cfloop from=1 to=#records# index=i
!--- Output the image tag inside the table cell ---

td#i#/td

!--- Check if i is exactly divisible by the number of columns. If so, 
close
the row and start a new one ---
cfif i mod cols EQ 0
/tr
tr
/cfif
/cfloop

!--- Create the padding cells ---
cfloop from=1 to=#padding# index=i
tdnbsp;/td
/cfloop

!--- Close out the table ---
/tr
/table

HTH

Spike

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 From:
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 o.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Westbrook (FDM)
 Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:08 PM
 To: CFUG List
 Subject: [ cf-dev ] displaying images 4 across in a table...
 
 Hi
 This is probably real simple, but it's something I've never
 done before...
 
 If I wanted to display a record set 8 records at a time, but
 in a table 4 across by 2 down (ie 4 cols, 2 rows), how would I
 do that? I've looked at cftable, but that jusr seems to do the
 same as looping a table row in a query output.
 
 I've got a lot of images, and I want to dislay them as
 thumbnails (or, rather, setting the size in the output html) 8
 at a time, in a 4x2 matrix.
 
 Can someone give me some clues?
 
 ta
 
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RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

2004-03-31 Thread Damian Watson
Did he not already mention that's his favourite framework of all time?

:-P

-Original Message-
From: Matt Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 April 2004 08:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

Thats why Russ likes it :D

- Original Message - 
From: Tom Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii


 ok fair play, but from what I've read about it so far, it looks a
whole
lot
 like fusebox version 2 :D
 - Original Message - 
 From: Snake Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:05 PM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii


  It's top secret :-)
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Tom Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 29 March 2004 09:38
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii
  
  
   any chance of taking a look at this framework?  just for
reference.
   - Original Message - 
   From: Snake Hollywood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 5:20 PM
   Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii
  
  
Nice plug there m8 :-)
   
I think perhaps machii doesn't automatically handle
   events/actions in
that way and just calls the action as par tof the same page
rather
than reloacting. Which is the reason I do it the way I do in my
framework, to aoid that refresh/resubmit problem.
   
Russ
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 March 2004 11:48
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii


 That's not necessarily true Douglas- the framework I use
   (developed
 by
 Russ) does not do this and it all runs through index.cfm... a
 typical form submission will do:

 index.cfm?action=form   -  DSP_form.cfm

 SUBMIT TO

 Index.cfm?action=submit - ACT_formSubmit.cfm


 RELOCATE

 Index.cfm?action=thankyou - DSP_thankyou.cfm


 The relevant files are included through a switch/ case
process.



 -refreshing this last page will not resubmit the data (or am I
 missing your point?)

 d


 -Original Message-
 From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 March 2004 11:45
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

 If you do a form post which returns to the same url (i.e.
 index.cfm), and then hit refresh, the form post will go
   again (the
 user will normally be prompted first). I'm afraid that's
   always been
 the case, long before Mach-II came along. If you want to
prevent
 this from happening, then you'll have to build in some checks
to
 prevent the same details being added twice.

 Douglas

 -Original Message-
 From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 March 2004 11:26
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

 but the problem is that after inserted a record and returned
to
 listpage, if address bar contains ...?event=insert, and a user
 clicks the reload-page button in browser tool-bar, a new
 insert-record event is forced, and there will be another
   record in
 the database table, all without leavingthe list-page!!! Q. who
is
 bugged: my brain  or Machii? best redards sasa


 - Original Message -
 From: Douglas Humphris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:16 PM
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii


 Is this not because ?event=insert is the event that you
   called from
 the previous link? The address bar will only display the
   link that
 you called. It doesn't matter that several events
   happened after the
 original event. It's not so much a Mach-II thing as
   that's just how
 it is. You'll get the same behaviour if you use cflocation.

 I'm developing a large application right now and Mach-II
   is working
 very well so far. Has really helped me to organise the
   application -
 which could so easily turn into a monster...

 So, I agree - I wasn't much of a fan of fusebox, but MachII is
a
 very good framework.

 Douglas

 -Original Message-
 From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 March 2004 10:49
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

 it' a fine tool!

 but i've noted a strange behaviour:

 when i submit the form than generating an insert-record
   event, then
 machii invoke the listener's create method; after this in the
 event-handler i announce another event to display the list:
...
 event-handler event=insert ...
 notify listener=listener method=insert /
 announce event=list /
 ...
 /event handler

 event handler event

RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

2004-03-26 Thread Damian Watson
That's not necessarily true Douglas- the framework I use (developed by
Russ) does not do this and it all runs through index.cfm... a typical
form submission will do:

index.cfm?action=form   -   DSP_form.cfm

SUBMIT TO

Index.cfm?action=submit -   ACT_formSubmit.cfm


RELOCATE

Index.cfm?action=thankyou   -   DSP_thankyou.cfm


The relevant files are included through a switch/ case process.



-refreshing this last page will not resubmit the data (or am I missing
your point?)

d


-Original Message-
From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 March 2004 11:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

If you do a form post which returns to the same url (i.e. index.cfm),
and then hit refresh, the form post will go again (the user will
normally be prompted first). I'm afraid that's always been the case,
long before Mach-II came along. If you want to prevent this from
happening, then you'll have to build in some checks to prevent the same
details being added twice.

Douglas

-Original Message-
From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 March 2004 11:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

but the problem is that after inserted a record and returned to
listpage, if
address bar contains ...?event=insert, and a user clicks the reload-page
button in browser tool-bar, a new insert-record event is forced, and
there
will be another record in the database table, all without leavingthe
list-page!!!
Q. who is bugged: my brain  or Machii?
best redards
sasa


- Original Message - 
From: Douglas Humphris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii


Is this not because ?event=insert is the event that you called from the
previous link? The address bar will only display the link that you
called. It doesn't matter that several events happened after the
original event. It's not so much a Mach-II thing as that's just how it
is. You'll get the same behaviour if you use cflocation.

I'm developing a large application right now and Mach-II is working very
well so far. Has really helped me to organise the application - which
could so easily turn into a monster...

So, I agree - I wasn't much of a fan of fusebox, but MachII is a very
good framework.

Douglas

-Original Message-
From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 March 2004 10:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

it' a fine tool!

but i've noted a strange behaviour:

when i submit the form than generating an insert-record event, then
machii
invoke the listener's create method; after this in the event-handler i
announce
another event to display the list:
...
event-handler event=insert ...
notify listener=listener method=insert /
announce event=list /
...
/event handler

event handler event=list ... 
notify listener=listener method=get_all returnkey=request.list
/
view-page list_page /
/event-handler

 but at this point i note that the address fields of the browser
displays
the
insert record event (.../index.cfm?event=insert) so if i reload the page
list, i have the strange behaviour.
have you noted also?

salvatore

- Original Message - 
From: Douglas Humphris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii


I do/am in the process of doing Mach-ii development.
Douglas

-Original Message-
From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 March 2004 10:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

hello,
is anyone in the list that develops with mach-ii?
best regards
salvatore

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RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

2004-03-26 Thread Damian Watson
...so you would be handling any events coming in the form scope at the
top of your index page?

cflocation is what I'd be using

-Original Message-
From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 March 2004 14:13
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

Hi Damian,

To be honest, if I'm using a form post, then I would put my event in as
a form variable rather than as a URL variable. This way, I only have to
set the form action to index.cfm. This is why I get the behaviour
which you don't.

How do you relocate to the next thankyou page? Is it with cflocation,
or through javascript?

Douglas

-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 March 2004 11:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

That's not necessarily true Douglas- the framework I use (developed by
Russ) does not do this and it all runs through index.cfm... a typical
form submission will do:

index.cfm?action=form   -   DSP_form.cfm

SUBMIT TO

Index.cfm?action=submit -   ACT_formSubmit.cfm


RELOCATE

Index.cfm?action=thankyou   -   DSP_thankyou.cfm


The relevant files are included through a switch/ case process.



-refreshing this last page will not resubmit the data (or am I missing
your point?)

d


-Original Message-
From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 March 2004 11:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

If you do a form post which returns to the same url (i.e. index.cfm),
and then hit refresh, the form post will go again (the user will
normally be prompted first). I'm afraid that's always been the case,
long before Mach-II came along. If you want to prevent this from
happening, then you'll have to build in some checks to prevent the same
details being added twice.

Douglas

-Original Message-
From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 March 2004 11:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

but the problem is that after inserted a record and returned to
listpage, if
address bar contains ...?event=insert, and a user clicks the reload-page
button in browser tool-bar, a new insert-record event is forced, and
there
will be another record in the database table, all without leavingthe
list-page!!!
Q. who is bugged: my brain  or Machii?
best redards
sasa


- Original Message - 
From: Douglas Humphris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii


Is this not because ?event=insert is the event that you called from the
previous link? The address bar will only display the link that you
called. It doesn't matter that several events happened after the
original event. It's not so much a Mach-II thing as that's just how it
is. You'll get the same behaviour if you use cflocation.

I'm developing a large application right now and Mach-II is working very
well so far. Has really helped me to organise the application - which
could so easily turn into a monster...

So, I agree - I wasn't much of a fan of fusebox, but MachII is a very
good framework.

Douglas

-Original Message-
From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 March 2004 10:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

it' a fine tool!

but i've noted a strange behaviour:

when i submit the form than generating an insert-record event, then
machii
invoke the listener's create method; after this in the event-handler i
announce
another event to display the list:
...
event-handler event=insert ...
notify listener=listener method=insert /
announce event=list /
...
/event handler

event handler event=list ... 
notify listener=listener method=get_all returnkey=request.list
/
view-page list_page /
/event-handler

 but at this point i note that the address fields of the browser
displays
the
insert record event (.../index.cfm?event=insert) so if i reload the page
list, i have the strange behaviour.
have you noted also?

salvatore

- Original Message - 
From: Douglas Humphris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii


I do/am in the process of doing Mach-ii development.
Douglas

-Original Message-
From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 March 2004 10:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] mach-ii

hello,
is anyone in the list that develops with mach-ii?
best regards
salvatore

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Cf Administrator

2004-03-24 Thread Damian Watson








I had a problem with this using IE 6 which
was locked down, it wasnt allowing the use of cookies or something or
other could be that?



-Original Message-
From: Ellwood
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 14:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] Cf
Administrator



I
am having problems with my CF administrator password in as much as I keep
getting kicked back to the login page. It appears to accept the login but then
does nothing about it. This is on my Development box so it is a single user
version but as its the only machine connected then whatever.



Any
ideas what has gone missing or awry?



Ellis
C Wood BSc

Ellwood
Web Solutions



T:
01623 459973

E:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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http://www.ellwoodwebsolutions.co.uk










RE: [ cf-dev ] Cf Administrator

2004-03-24 Thread Damian Watson








Try it in Netscrape or something that MS
havent ballsed up ;)



-Original Message-
From: Ellwood
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 14:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Cf
Administrator



Damien. I have been having problems with
some sites saying I did not allow cookies set in IE6 so that sounds like a very
good avenue to try. 



Cheers





Ellis C Wood BSc

Ellwood Web Solutions



T: 01623 459973llations

E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

W: http://www.ellwoodwebsolutions.co.uk



-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 14:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Cf
Administrator



I had a
problem with this using IE 6 which was locked down, it wasnt allowing
the use of cookies or something or other could be that?



-Original Message-
From: Ellwood
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 14:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] Cf
Administrator



I
am having problems with my CF administrator password in as much as I keep
getting kicked back to the login page. It appears to accept the login but then
does nothing about it. This is on my Development box so it is a single user
version but as its the only machine connected then whatever.



Any
ideas what has gone missing or awry?



Ellis
C Wood BSc

Ellwood
Web Solutions



T:
01623 459973

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RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS

2004-03-24 Thread Damian Watson
Aha, that's exactly who I signed up with last night... so make that a
third recommendation to anyone else who needs to do SMS/email, email/SMS
- it was very easy to set up etc...

-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 16:14
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS

we used them for the Chasing Bush campaign on interwebnet.org

http://www.interwebnet.org/chasing_bush

so that people campaigning could text us news/sightings etc from on the
march easily with their standard mobiles straight to our inboxes. It
worked
fantastically! I recommend it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 March 2004 16:09
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS
 
 
 Yes
 
 Checkout 
 
 http://www.sms2email.com
 
 Kola
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 23 March 2004 23:26
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS
  
  Thanks Mark, it truly is simple ;)
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 23 March 2004 19:59
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] SMS
  
   Anyone got any tips on sending SMS from CF templates?... any
 tutorials
   (can't find any) would be useful plus advice on gateways that are
  cheap
   or free!
  
  If you use an email to sms gateway, it's as simple as using CFMAIL.
  
  Google will find you some cheap gateways, there are very 
 few totally 
  free ones left these days (not sure if there are any tbh). If you 
  have a
 company
  account
  with a mobile phone network, give them a ring and ask them if they
 run
  their
  own or can recommend an sms gateway - never know, they might have 
  something for their business customers.
  
  
  Mark
  
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RE: [ cf-dev ] IsXMLDoc

2004-03-24 Thread Damian Watson








Just a thought Giles, shouldnt you
be accessing the file scope rather than the request?



-Original Message-
From: Giles Roadnight
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 16:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] IsXMLDoc



I have this code:



 cffile
action="" file=#form.xmlUpload#
variable=request.uploadedXML

 textarea
rows=10
cols=70#request.uploadedXML#/textarea

 

 cfif
isxmldoc(request.uploadedXML)



but the cfif is never true. My file is a
valid xml document as xmlparse works. Why is it always coming up as false? What
exactly does IsXML document look for?



Thanks







Giles Roadnight

http://giles.roadnight.name










RE: [ cf-dev ] IsXMLDoc

2004-03-24 Thread Damian Watson








Sorry, that didnt make sense: I
mean cfif isxmldoc(file.whatever) ??



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Sent: 24 March 2004 17:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] IsXMLDoc



Just a
thought Giles, shouldnt you be accessing the file scope rather than the
request?



-Original Message-
From: Giles Roadnight
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Sent: 24 March 2004 16:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] IsXMLDoc



I have this code:



 cffile
action="" file=#form.xmlUpload#
variable=request.uploadedXML

 textarea
rows=10
cols=70#request.uploadedXML#/textarea

 

 cfif
isxmldoc(request.uploadedXML)



but the cfif is never true. My file is a
valid xml document as xmlparse works. Why is it always coming up as false? What
exactly does IsXML document look for?



Thanks







Giles Roadnight

http://giles.roadnight.name










RE: [ cf-dev ] IsXMLDoc

2004-03-24 Thread Damian Watson








Errr no, apologies- my ignorance! Shoulda
read up on it before blurting my big fat mouth.



-Original Message-
From: Giles Roadnight
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 17:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] IsXMLDoc



Errr  should I? I use the request
scope to load the contents of the file into.





Giles Roadnight

http://giles.roadnight.name





-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 17:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] IsXMLDoc



Just a
thought Giles, shouldnt you be accessing the file scope rather than the
request?



-Original Message-
From: Giles Roadnight
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 March 2004 16:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] IsXMLDoc



I have this code:



 cffile
action="" file=#form.xmlUpload#
variable=request.uploadedXML

 textarea
rows=10
cols=70#request.uploadedXML#/textarea

 

 cfif
isxmldoc(request.uploadedXML)



but the cfif is never true. My file is a
valid xml document as xmlparse works. Why is it always coming up as false? What
exactly does IsXML document look for?



Thanks







Giles Roadnight

http://giles.roadnight.name










RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...

2004-03-23 Thread Damian Watson









Could you use WHERE NOT LIKE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
??



-Original Message-
From: Ian Westbrook (FDM)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 March 2004 11:14
To: CFUG List
Subject: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email
lists...





got a bit of a mental block this
morning - can anyone throw methe code to select emails from a field where
the email _doesn't_ contain an '@' symbol?











something like











SELECT id FROM email





WHERE email does not contain '@'











TIA











Ian W






















RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...

2004-03-23 Thread Damian Watson









Blow me backwards! Didnt even have
to look in the book lol



-Original Message-
From: Peter Harrison
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 March 2004 11:18
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning
email lists...





lol,
guess we got a question where we all know it.











ooh pick
me, pick me, I know it! lol











- Peter





-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 March 2004 11:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning
email lists...

Could
you use WHERE NOT LIKE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??



-Original Message-
From: Ian Westbrook (FDM)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 March 2004 11:14
To: CFUG List
Subject: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email
lists...





got a bit of a mental block this
morning - can anyone throw methe code to select emails from a field where
the email _doesn't_ contain an '@' symbol?











something like











SELECT id FROM email





WHERE email does not contain '@'











TIA











Ian W
























RE: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...

2004-03-23 Thread Damian Watson
Clever clogs :-P

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 March 2004 11:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cleaning email lists...

SELECT ID FROM Email
WHERE Locate('@',email) = 0

Probably more efficient than NOT LIKE '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', but no idea if it'll work 
in access...  Definitely ok in mySQL.

You can probably find an equivalent...

Ian Westbrook (FDM) wrote:
 got a bit of a mental block this morning - can anyone throw me the
code 
 to select emails from a field where the email _doesn't_ contain an '@'

 mailto:'@' symbol?
  
 something like
  
 SELECT id FROM email
 WHERE email does not contain '@' mailto:'@'
  
 TIA
  
 Ian W
  
  

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[ cf-dev ] SMS

2004-03-23 Thread Damian Watson
Anyone got any tips on sending SMS from CF templates?... any tutorials
(can't find any) would be useful plus advice on gateways that are cheap
or free!

Cheers
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RE: [ cf-dev ] SMS

2004-03-23 Thread Damian Watson
Thanks Mark, it truly is simple ;)

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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] SMS

 Anyone got any tips on sending SMS from CF templates?... any tutorials
 (can't find any) would be useful plus advice on gateways that are
cheap
 or free!

If you use an email to sms gateway, it's as simple as using CFMAIL. 

Google will find you some cheap gateways, there are very few totally
free ones 
left these days (not sure if there are any tbh). If you have a company
account 
with a mobile phone network, give them a ring and ask them if they run
their 
own or can recommend an sms gateway - never know, they might have
something for 
their business customers.


Mark

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RE: [ cf-dev ] HOW TO CREATE AN SQL DATABASE

2004-03-22 Thread Damian Watson
What version of ColdFusion are you using Sanjay?

As Fiona says, try setting it up first in administrative tools/ODBC
data sources -- then create a new datasource in CF administrator and set
the driver type to ODBC socket and connect to the one you created.

HTH
d

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I am trying to create a database using sql, i am doing my final year uni

project on coldfusion mx, and sql server.  When i go into cf
administrator 
and then into datasourses, and try to add in a database i get several 
errors, i have checked my username and password, they are all right what

else could it be???

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Whats wrong?

2004-03-19 Thread Damian Watson
Isn't it a validation issue? Do single quotes validate in XHTML for
instance?

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no comment.

actually i almost always use double quotes on attributes on HTML and CF
tags, but can't think if this was due to some pearl of wisdom i heard
many
years ago, or just because the code looks prettier in CF Studio when you
do
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cf-dev ] Whats wrong?  
Please respond to dev

 

 





Well bugger me. (actually no don't - Mind you  . No no no)

Double quotes instead of single quotes 

What a mother to find ... Dunno why it should work one way and not
another
but hey ...

Any comments?

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RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz

2004-03-19 Thread Damian Watson
The cfif/ else statement asks for two EQ values (Global and Targeted)
therefore the empty parameter you are declaring is unnecessary...

...also do you reckon those variables need to be session variables?-
worth looking at if you're delousing the app.

-Original Message-
From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 March 2004 16:03
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz

1.  are you declaring the form parameter first (especially important
with
checkboxes and radio buttons, which don't get sent unless something is
selected).  i'm guessing this will fix it.  if not, proceed to 2.

- won't the fact that one of the radio buttons are selcted ensure that
that
form variable is defined on the action page? 
- also there is: cfparam name=MailType default= on the action page


2.  output the list of Form.fieldnames to see exactly what fields
have
been
passed in - is mailtype in this list?  if not, check your spelling etc.

- This is working when I try it now and nothing has changed code
wise!!!???


3. The app has been working for many many months without error and
is
working now. This appears to be a one-off but I don't see how it has
happened (providing the above is correct)

There are lots of places in CF code where sesssion variables are not
being
locked. Could this be a potential contributor towards our server/CF
instabitlity problems? I may try doing a search on the whole site for
session variable and put some locks around them all. Much of this code
was
written before I joined the assignment


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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz



1.  are you declaring the form parameter first (especially important
with
checkboxes and radio buttons, which don't get sent unless something is
selected).  i'm guessing this will fix it.  if not, proceed to 2.

2.  output the list of Form.fieldnames to see exactly what fields have
been
passed in - is mailtype in this list?  if not, check your spelling etc.

3.  still kaput?  change 'Global' to something else.  it sounds like a
reserved word, and even though the way you're using it is completely
safe,
stranger things have been known to happen.

also, don't forget to lock your session variables, if you're not already
doing so.


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Richard J   To: 'cflist'
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richard.lovelockcc:

@cgey.com   Subject: [ cf-dev ]
Friday
Afternoon quiz 
 

19/03/2004 15:50

Please respond to

dev

 

 




Right - I've had a problem call come through and it's stumped me a bit

- I have a page, say Page A,  with a form on and all it has at two radio
buttons called Mailtype with the values Global and Targetted and a
submit button.
- The Global radio button is set to checked and so has black dot in
- Page A submits to Page B.
- Page B checks for the value of Form.MailType and sets session variable
accordingly:

!--- Checks which type email has been chosen ---
cfif Form.mailtype EQ Global
  cfset session.MailType = global
  cflocation url=email_message.cfm addtoken=No
cfelseif Form.mailtype EQ Targeted
  cfset session.MailType = targeted
  cflocation url=email_sector_select.cfm addtoken=No

An error has been generated:



The following error message displayed when I tried to log in


Error Occurred While Processing Request


Error Diagnostic Information An error occurred while evaluating the


expression: Form.mailtype EQ Global Error near line 37, column 20.


Error resolving parameter FORM.MAILTYPE The specified form field cannot


be found. This problem is very likely due to the fact that you have


misspelled the form field name. The error occurred while processing an


element with a general identifier of (CFIF), occupying document position


(37:1) to (37:32) in the template file


email_type_select.cfm.


Referrer:


choose_message_type.cfm



The referrer 

RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz

2004-03-19 Thread Damian Watson
...was just thinking (if emails sent out are stored in your db) that it
would be better to have the mail type as data, that way you have an
audit of what got sent to who as it were.

-Original Message-
From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 March 2004 16:13
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz

sorry damian there is a cfelse also which would account for the
declaration
I guess

the session.mailtype variable is used on a few more pages throughout the
app
before emails finally get sent

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-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 16:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz


The cfif/ else statement asks for two EQ values (Global and Targeted)
therefore the empty parameter you are declaring is unnecessary...

...also do you reckon those variables need to be session variables?-
worth looking at if you're delousing the app.

-Original Message-
From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 March 2004 16:03
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz

1.  are you declaring the form parameter first (especially important
with
checkboxes and radio buttons, which don't get sent unless something is
selected).  i'm guessing this will fix it.  if not, proceed to 2.

- won't the fact that one of the radio buttons are selcted ensure that
that
form variable is defined on the action page? 
- also there is: cfparam name=MailType default= on the action page


2.  output the list of Form.fieldnames to see exactly what fields
have
been
passed in - is mailtype in this list?  if not, check your spelling etc.

- This is working when I try it now and nothing has changed code
wise!!!???


3. The app has been working for many many months without error and
is
working now. This appears to be a one-off but I don't see how it has
happened (providing the above is correct)

There are lots of places in CF code where sesssion variables are not
being
locked. Could this be a potential contributor towards our server/CF
instabitlity problems? I may try doing a search on the whole site for
session variable and put some locks around them all. Much of this code
was
written before I joined the assignment


___
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Richard Lovelock, 
Senior Application Analyst.
Westminster City Council - Web Support
Cap Gemini Ernst  Young
Southbank
95 Wandsworth Road
London 
SW8 2HG 
( 0870 906 7482
 
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Sent: 19 March 2004 15:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz



1.  are you declaring the form parameter first (especially important
with
checkboxes and radio buttons, which don't get sent unless something is
selected).  i'm guessing this will fix it.  if not, proceed to 2.

2.  output the list of Form.fieldnames to see exactly what fields have
been
passed in - is mailtype in this list?  if not, check your spelling etc.

3.  still kaput?  change 'Global' to something else.  it sounds like a
reserved word, and even though the way you're using it is completely
safe,
stranger things have been known to happen.

also, don't forget to lock your session variables, if you're not already
doing so.


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Friday
Afternoon quiz 
 

19/03/2004 15:50

Please respond to

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Right - I've had a problem call come through and it's stumped me a bit

- I have a page, say Page A,  with a form on and all it has at two radio
buttons called Mailtype with the values Global and Targetted and a
submit button.
- The Global radio button is set to checked and so has black dot in
- Page A submits to Page

RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz

2004-03-19 Thread Damian Watson

that's kinda what I meant, useful to have that info once the email
has been sent so for instance you could have an integer column recording
the mailtype such as:

1 - global
2 - target group a
3 - target group b
4 - target group c

...so you avoid having to use session vars plus you get a better audit
trail- and with the police I would have thought audit's quite important.
This would also allow you to send out to more than one group at a time
so for instance send to target a and target c.

HTH
d

-Original Message-
From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 March 2004 16:19
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz

oh no, sorry - the mailtype refers to whether the mails get sent out to
everybody on the DB (global) or whether police officers can target
specific
areas of westminster (targetted)

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-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 16:18
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz


...was just thinking (if emails sent out are stored in your db) that it
would be better to have the mail type as data, that way you have an
audit of what got sent to who as it were.

-Original Message-
From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 March 2004 16:13
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz

sorry damian there is a cfelse also which would account for the
declaration
I guess

the session.mailtype variable is used on a few more pages throughout the
app
before emails finally get sent

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-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 16:10
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz


The cfif/ else statement asks for two EQ values (Global and Targeted)
therefore the empty parameter you are declaring is unnecessary...

...also do you reckon those variables need to be session variables?-
worth looking at if you're delousing the app.

-Original Message-
From: Lovelock, Richard J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 March 2004 16:03
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz

1.  are you declaring the form parameter first (especially important
with
checkboxes and radio buttons, which don't get sent unless something is
selected).  i'm guessing this will fix it.  if not, proceed to 2.

- won't the fact that one of the radio buttons are selcted ensure that
that
form variable is defined on the action page? 
- also there is: cfparam name=MailType default= on the action page


2.  output the list of Form.fieldnames to see exactly what fields
have
been
passed in - is mailtype in this list?  if not, check your spelling etc.

- This is working when I try it now and nothing has changed code
wise!!!???


3. The app has been working for many many months without error and
is
working now. This appears to be a one-off but I don't see how it has
happened (providing the above is correct)

There are lots of places in CF code where sesssion variables are not
being
locked. Could this be a potential contributor towards our server/CF
instabitlity problems? I may try doing a search on the whole site for
session variable and put some locks around them all. Much of this code
was
written before I joined the assignment


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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Friday Afternoon quiz



1.  are you declaring the form parameter first (especially important
with
checkboxes and radio buttons, which don't get sent unless something is
selected).  i'm guessing this will fix it.  if not, proceed to 2.

2.  output the list of Form.fieldnames to see exactly what fields have
been
passed in - is mailtype in this list?  if not, check your spelling etc.

3.  still kaput?  change 'Global' to something else.  it sounds like a
reserved word, and even though the way you're using

RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Regular Epressions

2004-03-18 Thread Damian Watson
Why don't you make each relevant tr something like tr class=meeting
which means you can identify each required row more easily... (and each
td item within that that is required should have a class so you can say
it's there).

My regex isn't good enough to give you any example!

-Original Message-
From: Giles Roadnight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 March 2004 09:31
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Regular Epressions

Although having said that getting the registered drivers link isve the
easy -
I can manage that my self.

Giles Roadnight
http://giles.roadnight.name


-Original Message-
From: Giles Roadnight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 March 2004 09:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Regular Epressions

Thanks for the post Paul. I did try tr[^]*.*/tr but the middle bit
matches anything - including /tr so I get the whole of the rest of the
page.

I don't actually want any of the row returned - I just want to make sure
that this row is in the correct format (i.e. has 3 cells with meeting,
date and venue in) so that I can start looping through the remaining
rows in the table to get what I want.

Can anyone else help with this? I have attached the page I am working
with (if this list allows attachments) what I want to do is get the
address of each meeting index file (in this case there is only 1 at
mtg11/index.htm, the file name of the registered drivers page and the
file name of the series file (in this case ser1/series.htm).

Thanks

Giles Roadnight
http://giles.roadnight.name


-Original Message-
From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 March 2004 09:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] OT: Regular Epressions

Giles,

 I want to be able to find a certain row in an html document. To do
this
 I need to pad the spaces where I don't know what will be there (font,
 strong tags ect with [^somecharacter]* but I don't know what
character
 I shoul dues. Really I want to say [^/tr]* but that means not  or /
 ect which doesn't sowk as the font tags also have /font tags.

I'm quite confused by this!  It's not entirely clear what you want to 
do, so let's try and figure this out!

I am assuming that by a row, you mean the bits between a tr and a
/tr.

So, you are trying to find:

1) tr although it may have attributes so it would be tr[^]*
2) anything that isn't a /tr
3) /tr

the first and last bits are easy so the regex can begin to take shape:

tr[^]*[[2]]/tr

It's just the [[2]] bit that we're now interested in!  And it's a lot 
simpler than you may think.  Remember that a regex is going to search 
for the WHOLE string, not just look for the next bit of itself. And the 
regex knows that the string ends in /tr so it will look for something 
starting with a tr tag and ending with a /tr tag won't it!  In other

words this should work (untested):

tr[^]*.*/tr

But, the point is, do you need the [[2]] bit?  With a regular expression

you are finding the start of the string, and not the actual string 
itself. To return the string, you need to find:

1) the end of the tr tag + 1
2) the start of the closing /tr tag - do a find on /tr using a start

position of (1)
3) Do a Mid on the string with those values

So instead of a regex, it becomes (htmlstr is the string you are working

on):

cfscript
// find end of opening tr
start = Find(, htmlstr, find(tr, htmlstr)) + 1;
// find ending /tr
end = find(/tr, htmlstr, start);
trstring = mid(htmlstr, start, end - start);
/cfscript

and out pops trstring! This could easily just be a one liner too! No 
need for a regex anywhere (although you can use the above instead of the

start equation)!  Remember though this will return what is INSIDE the 
tag, and not the actual tag itself. To do that, find the start of the 
tr and the end of the /tr and it will pop out!

Paul

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RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Regular Epressions

2004-03-18 Thread Damian Watson
Oops sorry, wrong tree, barking. Bloody obvious really!

-Original Message-
From: Giles Roadnight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 March 2004 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Regular Epressions

If I was generating the html page I wouldn't be using regex at all - I'd
already have the data.

I am parsing webpages produced by a program to get at the data and put
it in a DB.

Giles Roadnight
http://giles.roadnight.name


-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 March 2004 09:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Regular Epressions

Why don't you make each relevant tr something like tr class=meeting
which means you can identify each required row more easily... (and each
td item within that that is required should have a class so you can say
it's there).

My regex isn't good enough to give you any example!

-Original Message-
From: Giles Roadnight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 March 2004 09:31
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Regular Epressions

Although having said that getting the registered drivers link isve the
easy -
I can manage that my self.

Giles Roadnight
http://giles.roadnight.name


-Original Message-
From: Giles Roadnight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 March 2004 09:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] OT: Regular Epressions

Thanks for the post Paul. I did try tr[^]*.*/tr but the middle bit
matches anything - including /tr so I get the whole of the rest of the
page.

I don't actually want any of the row returned - I just want to make sure
that this row is in the correct format (i.e. has 3 cells with meeting,
date and venue in) so that I can start looping through the remaining
rows in the table to get what I want.

Can anyone else help with this? I have attached the page I am working
with (if this list allows attachments) what I want to do is get the
address of each meeting index file (in this case there is only 1 at
mtg11/index.htm, the file name of the registered drivers page and the
file name of the series file (in this case ser1/series.htm).

Thanks

Giles Roadnight
http://giles.roadnight.name


-Original Message-
From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 March 2004 09:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] OT: Regular Epressions

Giles,

 I want to be able to find a certain row in an html document. To do
this
 I need to pad the spaces where I don't know what will be there (font,
 strong tags ect with [^somecharacter]* but I don't know what
character
 I shoul dues. Really I want to say [^/tr]* but that means not  or /
 ect which doesn't sowk as the font tags also have /font tags.

I'm quite confused by this!  It's not entirely clear what you want to 
do, so let's try and figure this out!

I am assuming that by a row, you mean the bits between a tr and a
/tr.

So, you are trying to find:

1) tr although it may have attributes so it would be tr[^]*
2) anything that isn't a /tr
3) /tr

the first and last bits are easy so the regex can begin to take shape:

tr[^]*[[2]]/tr

It's just the [[2]] bit that we're now interested in!  And it's a lot 
simpler than you may think.  Remember that a regex is going to search 
for the WHOLE string, not just look for the next bit of itself. And the 
regex knows that the string ends in /tr so it will look for something 
starting with a tr tag and ending with a /tr tag won't it!  In other

words this should work (untested):

tr[^]*.*/tr

But, the point is, do you need the [[2]] bit?  With a regular expression

you are finding the start of the string, and not the actual string 
itself. To return the string, you need to find:

1) the end of the tr tag + 1
2) the start of the closing /tr tag - do a find on /tr using a start

position of (1)
3) Do a Mid on the string with those values

So instead of a regex, it becomes (htmlstr is the string you are working

on):

cfscript
// find end of opening tr
start = Find(, htmlstr, find(tr, htmlstr)) + 1;
// find ending /tr
end = find(/tr, htmlstr, start);
trstring = mid(htmlstr, start, end - start);
/cfscript

and out pops trstring! This could easily just be a one liner too! No 
need for a regex anywhere (although you can use the above instead of the

start equation)!  Remember though this will return what is INSIDE the 
tag, and not the actual tag itself. To do that, find the start of the 
tr and the end of the /tr and it will pop out!

Paul

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RE: [ cf-dev ] File permission(?) error

2004-03-16 Thread Damian Watson
I've got OVERWRITE in there.. basically a file is being uploaded then
rename... 

-Original Message-
From: Ellwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 March 2004 07:45
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Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] File permission(?) error

I know it may be a silly question but often the most obvious is what is
overlooked. Does the file already exists and have you told CFFILE to
MAKEUNIQUE on the file name?

Regards

Ellis C Wood BSc

Ellwood Web Solutions

 

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From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 March 2004 00:18
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] File permission(?) error

What sort of behaviour have you got for when the file already exists?

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 March 2004 20:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ cf-dev ] File permission(?) error


Hi,

Anyone know what would be causing this error, I can't replicate it with
my own files? Permissions have been set properly for the destination
directory as far as I'm aware:

---

Error attempting to save uploaded file to path
'D:\data\0185rai\docs\assessmentFiles\riaFile_24.pdf.' Access is denied.
(error 5)
The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier
of (CFFILE), occupying document position (61:2) to (61:134) in the
template file
D:\DATA\0185RAI\DOCS\HTMFILES\ACT_ASSESSMENTFILEGENERATOR.CFM.

---

Not much to go on I know!
d


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[ cf-dev ] File permission(?) error

2004-03-15 Thread Damian Watson
Hi,

Anyone know what would be causing this error, I can't replicate it with
my own files? Permissions have been set properly for the destination
directory as far as I'm aware:

---

Error attempting to save uploaded file to path
'D:\data\0185rai\docs\assessmentFiles\riaFile_24.pdf.' Access is denied.
(error 5)
The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier
of (CFFILE), occupying document position (61:2) to (61:134) in the
template file
D:\DATA\0185RAI\DOCS\HTMFILES\ACT_ASSESSMENTFILEGENERATOR.CFM.

---

Not much to go on I know!
d


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