Re: IPR PERMISSION

2012-11-11 Thread Peter Junge

On 11/8/2012 8:15 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:



On 11/05/2012 07:32 PM, Peter Junge wrote:


On 10/23/2012 5:30 PM, ILLL Copyright wrote:


Please find the attachment.



The Institute of Lifelong Learning of the University of Delhi is asking
us for permission to use materials mostly available at the old
OpenOffice wiki.

The attachment is now available at:
http://people.apache.org/~pj/Reference%20N1.pdf

NOTE: Item 7 refers to an image available
http://www.openofficetips.com/. I would think that page not affiliated
with AOO.

Peter





I think the majority of these items come from the OpenOffice 3.3 User
Guide(s) which is dual licensed with GNU Public License, ver 3 , or Creative
Commons Attribution License, ver 3. In either case, I think using the
graphic elements are fine and in compliance with these licenses. Several
contributing authors are on this list, however, and they may wish to comment
as well.


All we can really do is point to the license if we can determine what it is.


Exactly.

And, from my point of view at least half of the referred items would not 
cause any IPR issue (at least it's like that in Germany) because they're 
simple screen shots which everyone can reproduce within seconds so they 
lack of a threshold of originality.


Peter









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Re: [DISCUSS] Do we want download links for Dev Builds on a usual webpage?

2012-11-11 Thread Kay Schenk

[top posting]

I think the setup we ahve right now -- linking to the wiki that then 
links to developer areas (possibly) is fine.


We might think about moving the developer editions to SourceForge but 
maybe an additional step we don't need.


ok for this, see below...

On 11/11/2012 04:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 09/11/2012 jan iversen wrote:

Well I might have misunderstood it, but when I do a build --all, I
end up
with packages that I can install (at least for ubuntu), and they do not
seem so different from an official release package ?


We have two different kinds of builds, the OpenOffice builds and the
OOo-Dev builds. See the note in red at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
(they are also called with/without system integration respectively).


OK, I see this note and I confess I don't pay much attention to it, and 
typically install in parallel for these. But, I keep the same user 
profile if you will, and this doesn't seem to cause problems for me.


Right now this note says:

This week's builds are built without system integration.

Is the the normal?

If it is, maybe we could just omit the explanations altogether so as not 
to confuse anyone.






And as I understand it, snapshot build (which is also a kind of developer
version) is made like an installation.


The package layout does not change, but the idea is that an OOo-Dev
build (and 350m1, the one at the URL above, is an OOo-Dev build) can be
installed alongside an existing version of OpenOffice, so you can
install it on your machine and keep running your stable OpenOffice
together with it. This makes it ideal for testing. In the case of an
OpenOffice build, you can still do the same, but it's a bit trickier,
like needing to use setup /a on Windows (again, see the page and
linked resources for all details).

Regards,
   Andrea.


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 she wants, rather than to create it herself?”
-- Anais Nin


Re: ApacheCon Day 3 report

2012-11-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti

imacat wrote:

On 01.11.11 07:01pm, Andrea Pescetti said:

The public preview (the one you should check) is at
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_openoffice_track_at_apachecon1

+1.  This reads great!  Thanks!


Published at
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_track_at_apachecon1
or, equivalent shorter URL:
http://s.apache.org/openoffice-aceu2012-day-3

This is the link you can use for social media and other communication.

Regards,
  Andrea.


Question ad FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-11 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)
So there is an AOO room on Saturday at FOSDEM 2013, https://fosdem.org.

Is there any need for talks/presentations? If there is a need, what contents 
are needed and to whom
should one send a proposal by when?

---rony



Re: Question ad FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:

So there is an AOO room on Saturday at FOSDEM 2013,https://fosdem.org.
Is there any need for talks/presentations?


Sure, and proposals from you and others will be most welcome. But we 
still have several weeks available, and we are trying to avoid overlap 
with the current track discussions for ApacheCon North America (talk 
submission due by today-tomorrow depending on timezone).


Next week FOSDEM will be back in the spotlight and we will discuss all 
available opportunities. Stay tuned on ooo-dev!


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Question ad FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 11/11/2012 jan iversen wrote:

So you are saying hold your horses to me and others getting ready for
FOSDEM ??


I'm saying that we have a talk submission deadline for ApacheCon North 
America coming in less than 24 hours. Focus can then switch to FOSDEM, 
but talking about two big conferences at the same time can be confusing 
and misleading (have a look at the apechecon-discuss archives if you 
need examples). Nobody will suffer too much if we start focusing (again) 
on FOSDEM in 24 hours and give ApacheCon NA the spotlight in the meantime.



Can you please spend a few words on what the correct procedure is ?


I'll give all details in an appropriate thread, which I'll create in 24 
hours. We are going to have some nice and long discussions there, so I 
definitely prefer to get it right from the start. And we will have 
abundant time to discuss and plan, rest assured.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Some photos from ApacheCon

2012-11-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 if you like photos that are slightly out of focus and underexposed then
 please go to

 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**awf-aoo/sets/http://www.flickr.com/photos/awf-aoo/sets/

 I have uploaded some impressions of the ApacheCon.

 Best regards,
 Andre


Very fun...and the captions were highly amusing! :)

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“How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world
 she wants, rather than to create it herself?”

-- Anais Nin


Re: Question ad FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-11 Thread jan iversen
Sorry it was not my intention to put my foot down on the wrong place, I
forgot to write the 24 hour is no delay in my opinion, and very sensible !!

Sorry, for my wording, but I am not an english native. I was just confused.
I look forward to your  opening of a new discussion.

And to put it in open, I have no intention of perusing the right to speak
at FOSDEM, everybody else is more qualified that I am , So I will step down
if anybody takes the handle, but I think FOSDEM is very important for AOO
(in 24 hours).

Sorry for having said the right thing at the wrong time, you have my full
support.

Jan.


On 11 November 2012 22:45, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 On 11/11/2012 jan iversen wrote:

 So you are saying hold your horses to me and others getting ready for
 FOSDEM ??


 I'm saying that we have a talk submission deadline for ApacheCon North
 America coming in less than 24 hours. Focus can then switch to FOSDEM, but
 talking about two big conferences at the same time can be confusing and
 misleading (have a look at the apechecon-discuss archives if you need
 examples). Nobody will suffer too much if we start focusing (again) on
 FOSDEM in 24 hours and give ApacheCon NA the spotlight in the meantime.


  Can you please spend a few words on what the correct procedure is ?


 I'll give all details in an appropriate thread, which I'll create in 24
 hours. We are going to have some nice and long discussions there, so I
 definitely prefer to get it right from the start. And we will have abundant
 time to discuss and plan, rest assured.

 Regards,
   Andrea.



[Templates site]Cannot register

2012-11-11 Thread RGB ES
An user on the ES mailing list have problems registering on the Templates
site, so I tried the process... and failed as well.

After filling the fields on the registering page(1) nothing arrived to my
mailbox. Then, I selected the ask for a new password (Solicitar nueva
contraseña) option and nothing happened: no mail to my mailbox.

If I try to register again using the same username and/or email the system
tell me that the user already exists and suggest me to ask for a new
password... process that do not work.

I never was offered to set a first password so the registration is
completely locked.

Any idea where the problem is?

(1) http://templates.openoffice.org/es/user/register

Regards
Ricardo


Re: [Templates site]Cannot register

2012-11-11 Thread jan iversen
I can just confirm that I have the same problem. To me it seems as if the
site changes (from incubator) inhibeted the sending of mails. I trace the
html post, and that seems to be ok.

rgds
Jan I.

On 11 November 2012 23:28, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 An user on the ES mailing list have problems registering on the Templates
 site, so I tried the process... and failed as well.

 After filling the fields on the registering page(1) nothing arrived to my
 mailbox. Then, I selected the ask for a new password (Solicitar nueva
 contraseña) option and nothing happened: no mail to my mailbox.

 If I try to register again using the same username and/or email the system
 tell me that the user already exists and suggest me to ask for a new
 password... process that do not work.

 I never was offered to set a first password so the registration is
 completely locked.

 Any idea where the problem is?

 (1) http://templates.openoffice.org/es/user/register

 Regards
 Ricardo



Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO

2012-11-11 Thread RGB ES
2012/9/20 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com

 2012/9/16 Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net

 Greetings All;


 In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added
 the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Guides+Revisted.
 It offers 3 scenarios or the creation of the docs. I believe that we can no
 longer put this issue aside.


 I added a child page were I think aloud about scenario 3 and start the
 discussion about how to organize the documentation if we decide to build
 our own

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Details+on+Scenario+3

 Regards
 Ricardo



Since some weeks there is an ongoing effort on the ES wiki to organize the
basic documentation for AOO.(1) I experimented with the distribution of
different arguments and arrived to a configuration that I find interesting.
This distribution is different from usual user documentation in the sense
that it is highly cross referenced: The first chapter try to give a general
description of AOO as a whole, without entering on the details of each
specific app while the following chapters reference to the first one as
much as possible. After that, each chapter clearly separate direct
formatting from styles but trying to not explain same things twice:
configuring a numbered list indent is the same when doing direct formatting
or modifying a list style, so... more cross referencing.

Based on this (not completed yet) experience I added a proposed TOC to
the Details on Scenario 3 page. Only chapters 1 and 2 are really
detailed, but the idea is to give to the Calc, Impress and Draw chapters a
structure similar to the one used on Writer's chapter.

Regards
Ricardo

(1) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO


Re: ApacheCon Day 3 report

2012-11-11 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Andrea, imacat and every one in Sinsheim,
  Thanks for your sharing!
  So glad that we have such a success event!

- Shenfeng (Simon)


2012/11/12 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org

 imacat wrote:

 On 01.11.11 07:01pm, Andrea Pescetti said:

 The public preview (the one you should check) is at
 https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=**
 apache_openoffice_track_at_**apachecon1https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_openoffice_track_at_apachecon1

 +1.  This reads great!  Thanks!


 Published at
 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/**entry/apache_openoffice_track_**
 at_apachecon1https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_track_at_apachecon1
 or, equivalent shorter URL:
 http://s.apache.org/**openoffice-aceu2012-day-3http://s.apache.org/openoffice-aceu2012-day-3

 This is the link you can use for social media and other communication.

 Regards,
   Andrea.



Re: My Photos in ApacheCon Europe 2012

2012-11-11 Thread Liang Weike

Thank you! Many impressive photos!

于 2012-11-9 14:28, imacat 写道:

 My photos in the ApacheCon Europe 2012

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gabjkfhzqcyfw8p/ouBYojX5P9

 (I know my 3GS is dying. :p )


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China Standard Software Co., Ltd



Re: a german speaking Flyer

2012-11-11 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, 

 -Original Message-
 From: jan iversen [mailto:jancasacon...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:02 PM
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Re: a german speaking Flyer
 
 I like your maybe, but as I see it, there are no such thing 
 as apache
 supervising what we do, apache is a community and we are 
 all part of it,
 so what we do as a community have to be correct.

I do not understand the special review of Linux.
The flyer is e.g. also talk of Windows and that is, in detail, just as wrong,
for example, AOO does not run on Windows 95. 

I think everyone can information about any free software. He can do that in a
community, he can do that privately. In the flyer, no one has had the intention 
to
speak for Apache, but a few people on their own initiative made a flyer in 
doubt,
reflects their opinion.

Neither we informiert deliberately false nor have weir rights of AOO violated
because there are labeling as TM as well as a statement of the rights to the
logos.

*We have made the Flyer under a free license available, that anyone can do about
it what he does not like, or what he thinks is factually incorrect.*

But please:
none of us here has done anything wrong, said or intended. We are a few people 
who
have done on their own initiative a flyer that we provide expressly for
information only and not as an official flyer from Apache.



Greetings,
Jörg



Re: [Templates site]Cannot register

2012-11-11 Thread Roberto Galoppini
Investigating the problem on our side, I'll let you know in the next hours.

Roberto

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:38 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.comwrote:

 I can just confirm that I have the same problem. To me it seems as if the
 site changes (from incubator) inhibeted the sending of mails. I trace the
 html post, and that seems to be ok.

 rgds
 Jan I.

 On 11 November 2012 23:28, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

  An user on the ES mailing list have problems registering on the Templates
  site, so I tried the process... and failed as well.
 
  After filling the fields on the registering page(1) nothing arrived to my
  mailbox. Then, I selected the ask for a new password (Solicitar nueva
  contraseña) option and nothing happened: no mail to my mailbox.
 
  If I try to register again using the same username and/or email the
 system
  tell me that the user already exists and suggest me to ask for a new
  password... process that do not work.
 
  I never was offered to set a first password so the registration is
  completely locked.
 
  Any idea where the problem is?
 
  (1) http://templates.openoffice.org/es/user/register
 
  Regards
  Ricardo
 


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