date:20130329

Re: [QA Report]Weekly Defect Analysis

2013-03-29 Thread Yi Xuan Liu

Good suggestions. Thanks Helen!
I'll add this list in the following report.


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Yue Helen helenyu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Xuan. Good to know that 23 were opened, and 24 were fixed...we got
 one reduce in total :)

 One suggestion is, it would be great if you can include a list of defects
 which need highlight...it could be based on the severity or the scenario is
 very common...

 Helen

 2013/3/24 Yi Xuan Liu liuyixuan@gmail.com

  Hi, all:
 
  Here is this week(20130317~20130324) report
 
  http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/DefectStatus/20130325
  http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/DefectStatus/20130325

Re: add a feature to the document processor

2013-03-29 Thread chengjh

I think this is a good feature suggestion and this improvement will benefit
AOO end users. I copy your proposal to community for more comments. If you
want to be a developer volunteer for this feature, please prepare an AOO
build environment in your local and you can get some references from the
followed links...Hope them helpful for you.. Any issue,please feel free to
post to community for help..Good Weekend!
[1]The Build Guide:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide
[2]For AOO Text Document (sw module):http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer
[3] For AOO Impress (sd module):http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Impress
[4] For AOO Calc (sc module):http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Calc

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Don Chase d...@donchaseco.com wrote:

  Hi,

 Thanks for replying.

 I think that a running word count feature being displayed on the bottom
 margin, that would would also show selected or boundry based selectio would
 be cool for us writers.

 What do you think?


 Don




 On 3/28/13 1:46 AM, chengjh wrote:

 Hi Don,

  What's feature that you want to dev? Could you please provide more
 detail description about your feature?Any related issue opened in
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/?

 On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Don Chase d...@donchaseco.com wrote:

 may I?

 Thanks...


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Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.

2013-03-29 Thread janI

On 29 March 2013 00:20, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

janI wrote:

On 28 March 2013 12:04, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 3/28/13 11:36 AM, janI wrote:

On 28 March 2013 06:56, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 3/28/13 3:37 AM, janI wrote:

If I am really the only one caring for our mwiki, I agree with rob愀
concern about a single person being a risk !!
Any thought on how we can remedy this situation ?

The Infra wishlist we discussed here a while ago will be sent to Infra
soon, in time for the Apache budget discussion. The list will include the
suggestion that we can receive official support from Infra for our LAMP
applications (wiki, forum). Of course we will continue and try to build a
small team of project volunteers, but it would be very nice to know that
Infra is monitoring our sites too.

- All our changes are documented in infra svn

Is it accessible via an Url?

https://svn.apache.org/repos/**infra/infrastructure/trunk/**
machines/vms/ooo-wiki2-vmhttps://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/machines/vms/ooo-wiki2-vm

It is a protected repository, I cannot access it. This is understandable.
But I assume that all Infra people have access to it.

Yes

A couple of weeks ago, #asfinfra started using a ranking system (my word
for it). Infra committers had a + added to their nick (was given voice),
... if being online and active daily for months is not regular

then it is not a place for me.

I almost never visit #asfinfra and I have no idea why this was done (maybe
it has practical reasons, to see how many people can respond to an incident
by changing configuration files... who knows), but I don't think this was
done to put people like you in a second rank. Even though this is not
related to OpenOffice, every demotivating action should be justified, so I
would recommend to discuss this on the infrastructure list.

I wrote it to explain why it is not in my power to provide the services we
discussed earlier that I should provide. I have no intention of discussing
this subject on this list.

I will no longer get up during the night getting mwiki back online and in
general only respond to service alerts when I happen to be on my pc. This
will probably lead to longer downtimes

This is a sane approach. As much as I appreciate your effort to restore
the wiki while it's night in Europe, we cannot ask volunteers to be always
available. A small team of geographically distributed volunteers with
official backup from Infra seems the best solution.

Totally agree, and I have prepared myself for being part of such a team, by
learning a lot about our internal structures as well as infra. Today I
think I have a deep knowledge on both subjects.

translate-vm is another issue, we are still waiting for a pottle release,
andrea asked the pottle guys but as far as I know did not get a reply.

Yes, no replies so far about the availability of Pootle 2.5.

The main question for me is how we can improve the overall situation. We
need infra and the support from them, we want integrate us but want to
be accepted as well. We have special requirements based on the history
of our project, changes require a lot of work.

A first step in improving relationships will be the wishlist, i.e.,
telling Infra in advance what we might need. The many needs of the
OpenOffice project, especially the legacy ones, have been quite annoying to
Infra also because they came after resources (people and money) had been
allocated. Let's start by changing this.

A wishlist is a needed thing, for hardware and other money resources. BUT
infra is not a paid project (apart from a little handfull, that does a big
job coordinating the rest and running some very core services), it is
committers like you and I. All the sites I have seen, are being maintained
by infra-committers. In my humble opinion the wishlist should contain a
wish for a small team that are part of both projects (infra/aoo), we supply
the people who either are or will become infra-committers.

rgds
Jan I.

Regards,
Andrea.

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Re: [Wiki]Trouble with math extension on one particular page

2013-03-29 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 07:27:30PM +0100, RGB ES wrote:
 If you look at this page
 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO/TemasAvanzados/Macros/StarBasic/TrabajandoConCalc/FuncionesPersonalizadas
 
 you'll see that all math objects are failing to parse. That's quite strange
 because other pages using the same extension are working just perfectly.
 
 Any idea?

It seems a recurrent problem, described in the manual:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Enable_TeX/problems#Error_:_Failed_to_parse_.28Missing_texvc_executable.29
(that said, I've no idea about all this stuff, it's just the first
search result in Google).


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Re: add a feature to the document processor

2013-03-29 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 04:14:21PM +0800, chengjh wrote:
  I think that a running word count feature being displayed on the bottom
  margin, that would would also show selected or boundry based selectio would
  be cool for us writers.
 
  What do you think?

This is bug https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=41454 which is
likely to be closed as WONTFIX; this can be done in the next version
with an extension, by any extension developer (I guess I will end up
enhancing my example, and making it available as an extension).


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Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-29 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:45:41PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 If dictionaries were ALv2, for sure AOO would include them, as
 Sun/Oracle did (this was something the native-lang asked for long time).
 So this is something we use with dictionaries just because we cannot
 include them by default.
 
 In the case of dictionaries (which is anyway marginal with respect
 to the current discussion) I actually find that what OpenOffice is
 doing now, i.e., bundling them as extensions, is a good solution.

I was talking about *how* they are packaged in the basis core-01
package.  Before, they were packaged as single packages. You can find
the remaining of this under
trunk/main/setup_native/source/packinfo/packinfo_office.txt All the
gid_Module_Root_Extension_Dictionary_LANG are package descriptions for
extension dictionaries, see
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/setup_native/source/packinfo/packinfo_office.txt?revision=1300105view=markup#l515

If you are still planning to package for Fedora, you will have to
workaround this (extensions should be in its own package) and the
problem of the duplication when the extensions is copied in the user
installation (Fedora used a patched version of unopkg that added the
link option).


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Re: SRPM Request

2013-03-29 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile

Hi Fred,

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:43:29PM -0700, Fred Ollinger wrote:
  Did you create a single spec to build the rpms for the whole office?

If you are interested in researching this, you can look at how it was
done in Fedora:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=276232
Download the srpm, and uncompress it (rpm2cpio file | cpio -idv),
you'll see the single spec file openoffice.org.spec.


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Re: [GSoC 2013] Interested in the idea Apache OpenOffice Extension Plugin for Eclipse

2013-03-29 Thread Ishan Thilina

Hi Juergen,

Thank you very much for the promptly reply. Please find my comments inline.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Ishan,

 first of all welcome at Apache and thank you for interest in this proposed
 GSoC project.


 Am Donnerstag, 28. März 2013 um 18:02 schrieb Ishan Thilina:

  Hi,
 
  I am a student from the Faculty of Engineering, Universtiy of Moratuwa,
 Sri
  Lanka who is currently in my 4th year (final year) majoring in Computer
  Science and Engineering. I was a GSoC participant in 2012 for Creative
  Commons and was able to successfully complete the assigned project[1].
 
  The projects aim was to port an existing Java LibreOffice extension to
  Python. So I have an understanding about the OpenOffice API and I've been
  exposed to extensions development using both Java and Python for
  LibreOffice.
 
 

 sounds good so far
 
  I saw the idea of creating an OpenOffice Extension Plugin for Eclipse
 from
  [2]. Although I don't have prior experience on writing plugins for
 Eclipse,
  I think with proper guidance I achieve the goals of this project.
 
 

 The Eclipse  community is very big and there is a lot documentation
 available. I am also no Eclipse expert but I will do my best to give you
 the necessary guidance and advice.


Yes, I too agree to the fact that learning how to write eclipse plugins
should be done my my self. What I meant by proper guidance is mostly the
design decisions that will be involved in the plugin development process.

I will start learning about eclipse plugins development as soon as possible
so that I can get a clear understanding about the difficulty of the project
it self and submit a strong proposal.


 I mentored a similar project years ago but it is not directly comparable
 with what we have for NetBeans already and license is not compatible with
 the Apache license.
 Anyway what I have it mind goes in the direction of the NetBeans plugin. I
 recommend that you take a look on it and try it out.


Yes, I have already used the NetBeans plugin. I used for my work in GSoC
2012, So I'm familiar with its functionality.


 The idea is to provide some further tooling for developers who prefer
 Eclipse over NetBeans and potentially bring in more ideas ;-)
 Or support the same kind of wizard for different languages, eg. Java,
 Python and maybe c++.
 But the initial project should focus on the first basic steps of course.

 For example setting up working extension projects in Eclipse and think in
 a second step how it can convert in a plugin with wizards...,
 
  What will be your selection criteria for a GSoC student? Are there any
  other things that I need to be aware of this project?
 
 

 I wrote it the description already and it depends how many students are
 interested in this project. I am open to work with interested people and in
 the end it is up to them to move the project forward and to a success.


So I guess the way to start working on the project is to first take a look
at on how to write Eclipse plugins. But this could take some time. Also I
think by looking at the NetBeans plugin, we'd be able to get a proper idea
on how to   *package an extension package (oxt), deploy it from Eclipse
into the office and how to remote debug the extension in the office* (one
of your ideas in the jira issue).

Any other particular guidelines on what I should be focusing with in this
period?


 
  You can access my LinkedIn profile from [3]. It'll list many of my
 project
  work and achievements.
 
 

 I will take a closer look on it later...

 Kind regards
 Juergen
 
 
  [1]. http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/cc.libreoffice.git/
  [2]. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-77
  [3]. www.linkedin.com/pub/ishan-somasiri/25/bab/951
 
 
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Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-29 Thread Reizinger Zoltán

2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta:

On 03/28/2013 01:24 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
and...@pitonyak.org wrote:

On 03/27/2013 04:57 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

Well Derby does seem to be embed-able . See:

http://db.apache.org/derby/**papers/DerbyTut/embedded_**intro.htmlhttp://db.apache.org/derby/papers/DerbyTut/embedded_intro.html

This has been suggested before, as early as 2006. See:

http://markmail.org/message/**kp5n2d5yzhprgpjmhttp://markmail.org/message/kp5n2d5yzhprgpjm

Still, is any embedded DB a good thing? Pros and cons...

external systems I expect probably use multiple files, so, if I want to
simply create something small and send it to you, well, I can't do that
easily unless I zip up a directory, send it to you, and then expect
you to
install the same DB that I used and then make it work. So, it boils
down

to an ability to create a small single file DB.

CON:
* Our current Embedded DB works poorly with large DB, and someone
who does

not know better may try to create a very large DB and have performance
issues.

If it is not reliable, then it is probably better to not exist.

--
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My Macro Document:
http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odthttp://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt

Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php

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This has been a very good discussion so far.

I would again like to emphasize two things about our current
situation/implementation:

* the requirement of Java 6 by end users to get acceptable
performance from

Base.

(More testing of builds will be needed to determine if this holds
true for

Java 7 and HSQL 2.2.9. Perhaps additional changes are needed to the
connectivity portions of AOO).

* the current and perhaps future issues in terms of development
maintenance

for the embedded DB

In any case, we need to keep in mind this is a volunteer community.

I have been working on updating the HSQL to the latest version. I have
most of the configure and build portion ready but I did run into an
issue which I addressed here

http://sourceforge.net/projects/hsqldb/forums/forum/73674/topic/6842122

I have tested Base with version 2.2.9 and it does address the issues
that the current patches are created for. Overall, most of the issues
seem to be within the AOO code. I have tried to look into some of them
but having made too much progress. Personally I am having a hard time
locating the issue, I am still trying to get use to the build system
and the code structure. For example, there is an issue with setting
the default date on a column but I am unable to locate the UI code for
it.

The all hsqldb 2.0 intagration work finished in Oracle era, OOo3.4 but
the final integration postponed to 3.5 version or later time.

It contains lot of code change.
All code was stored in cws hsqldb19:
http://hg.services.openoffice.org/hg/cws/hsqldb19/

The code transfer to ASF is not clear to me.

I did the user side QA work, if I have time will help you. I have no
coding knowledge.

First need to clarify the cws hsqldb19 code usage, to prevent duplicate
work.

Zoltan

As a volunteer, I am going to concentrate on Base. I have been meaning
to ask on the list if others would like to work together to get it
back into shape. Any takers?

Michael

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Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-29 Thread Kay Schenk

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Reizinger Zoltán zreizin...@hdsnet.huwrote:

2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta:

On 03/28/2013 01:24 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
and...@pitonyak.org wrote:

On 03/27/2013 04:57 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

Well Derby does seem to be embed-able . See:

http://db.apache.org/derby/papers/DerbyTut/embedded_intro.htmlhttp://db.apache.org/derby/**papers/DerbyTut/embedded_**intro.html
http://db.apache.**org/derby/papers/DerbyTut/**embedded_intro.htmlhttp://db.apache.org/derby/papers/DerbyTut/embedded_intro.html

This has been suggested before, as early as 2006. See:

http://markmail.org/message/kp5n2d5yzhprgpjmhttp://markmail.org/message/**kp5n2d5yzhprgpjm
http://**markmail.org/message/**kp5n2d5yzhprgpjmhttp://markmail.org/message/kp5n2d5yzhprgpjm

Still, is any embedded DB a good thing? Pros and cons...

PRO:
* Very convenient for small things. Imagine if I said that you can
write a
document in Write, but you must first install an external application
that
Write will connect to. This is rather daunting for new users. Also, most
external systems I expect probably use multiple files, so, if I want to
simply create something small and send it to you, well, I can't do that
easily unless I zip up a directory, send it to you, and then expect you
to
install the same DB that I used and then make it work. So, it boils
down
to an ability to create a small single file DB.

CON:
* Our current Embedded DB works poorly with large DB, and someone who
does
not know better may try to create a very large DB and have performance
issues.

If it is not reliable, then it is probably better to not exist.

--
Andrew Pitonyak
My Macro Document:
http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odthttp://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odt
http://www.**pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odthttp://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt

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This has been a very good discussion so far.

I would again like to emphasize two things about our current
situation/implementation:

* the requirement of Java 6 by end users to get acceptable performance
from
Base.

(More testing of builds will be needed to determine if this holds true
for
Java 7 and HSQL 2.2.9. Perhaps additional changes are needed to the
connectivity portions of AOO).

* the current and perhaps future issues in terms of development
maintenance
for the embedded DB

In any case, we need to keep in mind this is a volunteer community.

I have been working on updating the HSQL to the latest version. I have
most of the configure and build portion ready but I did run into an issue
which I addressed here

http://sourceforge.net/**projects/hsqldb/forums/forum/**
73674/topic/6842122http://sourceforge.net/projects/hsqldb/forums/forum/73674/topic/6842122

I have tested Base with version 2.2.9 and it does address the issues that
the current patches are created for. Overall, most of the issues seem to be
within the AOO code. I have tried to look into some of them but having made
too much progress. Personally I am having a hard time locating the issue, I
am still trying to get use to the build system and the code structure. For
example, there is an issue with setting the default date on a column but I
am unable to locate the UI code for it.

Michael -- Great to hear from you again!

The all hsqldb 2.0 intagration work finished in Oracle era, OOo3.4 but
the final integration postponed to 3.5 version or later time.
It contains lot of code change.
All code was stored in cws hsqldb19: http://hg.services.openoffice.**
org/hg/cws/hsqldb19/ http://hg.services.openoffice.org/hg/cws/hsqldb19/
The code transfer to ASF is not clear to me.

I did the user side QA work, if I have time will help you. I have no
coding knowledge.

First need to clarify the cws hsqldb19 code usage, to prevent duplicate
work.
Zoltan

and, hi Zoltan -- thanks for this info. I'm not sure how many of us knew
about this.

As a volunteer, I am going to concentrate on Base. I have been meaning to
ask on the list if others would like to work together to get it back into
shape. Any takers?

Count me in! I too am doing some additional investigative work. I will be
back with the procedures I took in a few days. I installed hsqldb 2.2.9
locally and went from there. I need to go over my build logs again to see
if I missed something. I may rebuild with debug options etc to help me out.

Michael

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Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-29 Thread Mechtilde

Hello

Am 29.03.2013 19:07, schrieb Kay Schenk:
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Reizinger Zoltán
zreizin...@hdsnet.huwrote: