Re: My self-build AOO starts and then closes immediately
On 2/11/14 8:00 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Oliver, without user profile it shows the same behavior: start with short flash of the image and creating user-folder, then close. I have also tested a user profile, which works in other versions. Same problem here. Only the debug build is affected. I have still got a debug version of r1537973, which works; but with r1554790 it fails already. I suspect, that there is something in my Windows environment, but I have no idea where to search. I would make a complete rebuild and if the problem still exists start further debugging. Juergen Kind regards Regina Oliver-Rainer Wittmann schrieb: Hi Regina, On 10.02.2014 14:54, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Andre, Andre Fischer schrieb: On 08.02.2014 13:59, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi all, I have build r1565724 as debug build. I have installed the resulted binaries administrative with setup -a. I can start it, but it closes immediately, without any error message. The folder 'user' is created, but the welcome screen does not appear. There are no remaining processes, it really closes. A part of this is the normal behavior on the first start: OpenOffice starts, shows the splash screen, does some initialization and at about 50% of the progress bar, it shuts down and restarts. Looks like the restart does not work. What happens when you start soffice.bin instead of soffice.exe ? When I start soffice.bin from the Windows 7 command-window, then AOO starts without problems. I did not experienced such a problem in my local Windows 7 build (rev. 1566588). May be it depends on the user profile. Could you try it with a new user profile? But please keep the former one for the debugging in case that the user profile caused the observed crash. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Presentation and wiki account
JOSE REYES wrote: Hello! Mi name is José Reyes Chan Guzmán. I want to contribute to the OpenOffice community through my knowledge and skills, helping to translate some documentation to spanish. Want to enter the wiki for to help with some guides. My Nick is jose_reyes1994 Welcome! Your account at https://wiki.openoffice.org has now been unblocked. Feel free to e-mail the doc list if you have any doubts on how to proceed. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Welcome!
Hi Andre, Welcome to join accessibility testing of AOO! AOO introduces IAccessible2 and will ship with its 4.1 Windows version. Both JAWS and NVDA support IA2. And IA2 will be automatically enabled in AOO. Stuart already created a meta issue for tracking IA2 issues. The link is here https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121767. You can create new IA2 issues and add dependency on issue 121767. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us. Thanks. -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
[RELEASE]: slow upload ...
Hi, just a short information that the snapshots will be delayed. Currently I am uploading with ~40KB/s :-( It's horrible slow and with more languages I have to upload more. With this speed I can't probably finish the upload or the snapshots before I go on vacation. And when I take this upload speed into account for a potential Beta RC I see no chance to deliver the files in time. That is not fun. Does anybody know if there is a chance to get a higher upload speed on an Apache server? I can of course upload much faster to other servers :-) Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: slow upload ...
On 12 February 2014 11:39, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, just a short information that the snapshots will be delayed. Currently I am uploading with ~40KB/s :-( It's horrible slow and with more languages I have to upload more. With this speed I can't probably finish the upload or the snapshots before I go on vacation. And when I take this upload speed into account for a potential Beta RC I see no chance to deliver the files in time. That is not fun. Does anybody know if there is a chance to get a higher upload speed on an Apache server? I can of course upload much faster to other servers :-) I assume you talked with herbert (he and I have had some discussion the last couple of days). I just uploaded a file to people ~200Mb with 150KB/s. rgds jan I Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: slow upload ...
On 12 February 2014 12:56, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 12 February 2014 11:39, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, just a short information that the snapshots will be delayed. Currently I am uploading with ~40KB/s :-( It's horrible slow and with more languages I have to upload more. With this speed I can't probably finish the upload or the snapshots before I go on vacation. And when I take this upload speed into account for a potential Beta RC I see no chance to deliver the files in time. That is not fun. Does anybody know if there is a chance to get a higher upload speed on an Apache server? I can of course upload much faster to other servers :-) I assume you talked with herbert (he and I have had some discussion the last couple of days). I just uploaded a file to people ~200Mb with 150KB/s. Slight misunderstanding different theme...it still seems however that there are big differences in the direct upload to people.a.o rgds jan I. rgds jan I Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: slow upload ...
On 2/12/14 12:56 PM, jan i wrote: On 12 February 2014 11:39, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, just a short information that the snapshots will be delayed. Currently I am uploading with ~40KB/s :-( It's horrible slow and with more languages I have to upload more. With this speed I can't probably finish the upload or the snapshots before I go on vacation. And when I take this upload speed into account for a potential Beta RC I see no chance to deliver the files in time. That is not fun. Does anybody know if there is a chance to get a higher upload speed on an Apache server? I can of course upload much faster to other servers :-) I assume you talked with herbert (he and I have had some discussion the last couple of days). I just uploaded a file to people ~200Mb with 150KB/s. we talked indeed about the slow upload and it is of course very annoying. Even 150kb/s is not really promising. It is varying, sometimes I have more as well, currently 66Kb/s Juergen rgds jan I Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Windows - converting some modules into static libs
Hello, I have just built open office on Windows platform and it worked perfectly. I now want to convert few modules into static libraries and embed them in the dependent module directly.Open office build infrastructure is very new to me . Can any one help me in converting any module into static lib or at least help me in understanding ooo build scripts/infrastructure ?
Re: How could I make a build on writer module?
Thanks Andrea. Sorry for my mistake. To Oliver, You mention AOO build environment have to be setup, did you mean the full build at the very first step? Right after the command source LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh which will lead to this command cd instsetoo_native build --all. Does the command build --all is the AOO build environment that you mention? THanks @! On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Forwarding the answer below to LOH KOK HOE, who is not subscribed. LOH KOK HOE: please read http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html to know how our mailing lists work, or you will miss answers. Andrea Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 10.02.2014 14:08, LOH KOK HOE wrote: I would like to focus my contribution to writer module only, how could I build and test only for this module? Do I need to make a full build for the whole system in order to run my test? A full build to play around with the Writer (module sw in folder main/) is not needed. But your AOO build environment have to be setup and available as for a full build. And you need an installation package which corresponds to the source code revision of your AOO build environment. Once you have setup your AOO build environment you can just perform a debug build of module sw. Afterwards you have to copy the created libraries into the program folder of your installation. Do not hesitate to ask for further and deeper information or concrete steps for your environment on your way to play around with the Writer module. Best regards, Oliver. Thanks @! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
US_inprogress folder went missing during the build
As I following the guidelinehttps://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Building_installation_packageson building the AOO, I got following error shown in the log file, the log file were locate at AOO-ROOT/main/instsetoo_native/ unxlngx6.pro/Apache_OpenOffice/deb/logging/en-US directory, and the file name was log_AOO410_en-US.log. *** ERROR: More than one new package in directory /home/kokhoe/workspace/aoo-trunk/main/instsetoo_native/ unxlngx6.pro/Apache_OpenOffice/deb/install/en-US_inprogress/DEBS ( /home/kokhoe/workspace/aoo-trunk/main/instsetoo_native/ unxlngx6.pro/Apache_OpenOffice/deb/install/en-US_inprogress/DEBS/openoffice-writer-4.0.0-1-linux-3.8-x86_64.deb/home/kokhoe/workspace/aoo-trunk/main/instsetoo_native/ unxlngx6.pro/Apache_OpenOffice/deb/install/en-US_inprogress/DEBS/openoffice-writer-4.0.0-1-linux-3.8-x86_64 ) in function: determine_new_packagename (packagepool) *** As I check in the install directory, I don't see US_inprogress folder, but I do see others. May I know how could I rectified this issue? The output of the console mention this: dmake: Error code 255, while making 'openoffice_en-US.deb' It seems to me that the build was failed due to the builder failed to make a deb package.
Re: Any news on a new build of 64-bit MacOSX AOO 4.1 (either dayly/developer or snapshot build) ?
Hi Herbert, On 11.02.2014 17:24, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 11.02.2014 15:23, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote: On 11.02.2014 15:07, Herbert Duerr wrote: Please advise, whether you want all crash files from yesterday and where to put them (issue, make it downloadable, send it as an attachment?)! If you have webspace somewhere then making them available there would be a good start, especially since these seem to be different problems. Uploaded all of them as a zip-file (including the .*plist) to http://wi.wu.ac.at/rgf/tmp/aoo/20140211/. Thanks! It shows that the update-check problem is caused by an unexpected exception of type com::sun::star::ucb::InteractiveNetworkReadException 10 __cxa_call_unexpected + 129 11 libucbhelper4s5abi.dylib ucbhelper::cancelCommandExecution 12 libucpdav1.dylib http_dav_ucp::Content::open 13 libucpdav1.dylib http_dav_ucp::Content::execute 14 libucpdav1.dylib http_dav_ucp::Content::execute 15 updatefeed.uno.dylib 16 updatefeed.uno.dylib 17 updatefeed.uno.dylib 18 updchk.uno.dylib checkForUpdates If you had a way to reproduce this I'd give you debug versions of these libraries so the stack would be more precise. Unfortunately, after trying hard I have not been able to get back to the crashing state. Will test the next snapshot once it is available. Kind regards ---rony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Bonjour J'utilisais jusqu'à présent la version 3.4.1 et en cherchant à résoudre quelques problèmes j'ai découvert qu'il existait la dernière version 4.0.1. Je l'ai téléchargée sur votre site openoffice.org qui renvoie en fait sur heanet.dl.sourceforge.net. Apparemment la version téléchargée serait la 4.0.0 ! Dans un premier temps OO s'est ouvert mais les raccourcis ne fonctionnaient pas message raccourci manquant Après avoir essayé de résoudre ce souci, sans succès, OO ne s'ouvre plus, j'ai décidé de désinstaller OO dans le panneau de configuration mais peu après le début du processus le message suivant apparait : Please exit OpenOffice 4.0.0 and the OpenOffice 4.0.0 Quickstarter before you continue. If you are using a multi-user system, also make sure that no other user has OpenOffice 4.0.0 open Et je ne peux donc pas désinstaller OO. Mon anglais n'est pas parfait mais je crois comprendre que je dois m'assurer qu'aucun autre utilisateur à ouvert OO 4.0.0 alors que je suis le seul utilisateur de l'ordinateur .. Que dois-je faire pour résoudre ce problème ? Pourquoi le message indique OO 4.0.0 au lieu de OO 4.0.1 comme proposé lors du téléchargement ? Merci de votre aide Cordialement R.VIDIL
Bug 124114 - Auto Detection for mime type selects text/plain instead of application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text
Hi Infrastructure Team, first: Thanks a lot for fixing of Re: AOO [Bug 122235] Connection fails with 502 Error reading from remote server! Never again I have been bothered by downtimes since that fix. Now my new request: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124114 For a while it seemed that the problem had been solved by updating Bugzilla, but now problem has reappeared, it seems that (at least with my Seamonkey 2.2.4) Auto-Mimetyp-detection never finds the correct application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text. Mostly result is text/plain, but sometimes also exotic application/3dr [1]. And I am not the only one who suffers from that problem [2]. I found some Bugs in BZ Bug Database [3], but none of them seems to be concerning this problem. Did we have a downgrade from BZ 4..4.2 (told in OOo dev mailinglist, I did not check) to BZ 4.4.1? Can you help? Best regards Rainer Bielefeld Used Hyperlinks: [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=attachments.mimetypef2=attachments.filenamelist_id=124012o1=substringo2=substringquery_format=advancedv1=3drv2=odt [2] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=attachments.mimetypef2=attachments.filenamef3=attachments.submitterlist_id=124013o1=substringo2=substringo3=notequalsquery_format=advancedv1=3drv2=odtv3=rainerbielefeld_ooo_qa%40bielefeldundbuss.de [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=9398347short_desc=mime%20typeresolution=---resolution=DUPLICATEquery_format=advancedshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrproduct=Bugzilla - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
2014-02-12 12:22 GMT-05:00 René VIDIL jrvi...@wanadoo.fr: Bonjour J'utilisais jusqu'à présent la version 3.4.1 et en cherchant à résoudre quelques problèmes j'ai découvert qu'il existait la dernière version 4.0.1. Je l'ai téléchargée sur votre site openoffice.org qui renvoie en fait sur heanet.dl.sourceforge.net. Apparemment la version téléchargée serait la 4.0.0 ! Dans un premier temps OO s'est ouvert mais les raccourcis ne fonctionnaient pas message raccourci manquant Après avoir essayé de résoudre ce souci, sans succès, OO ne s'ouvre plus, j'ai décidé de désinstaller OO dans le panneau de configuration mais peu après le début du processus le message suivant apparait : Please exit OpenOffice 4.0.0 and the OpenOffice 4.0.0 Quickstarter before you continue. If you are using a multi-user system, also make sure that no other user has OpenOffice 4.0.0 open Et je ne peux donc pas désinstaller OO. Mon anglais n'est pas parfait mais je crois comprendre que je dois m'assurer qu'aucun autre utilisateur à ouvert OO 4.0.0 alors que je suis le seul utilisateur de l'ordinateur .. Que dois-je faire pour résoudre ce problème ? Pourquoi le message indique OO 4.0.0 au lieu de OO 4.0.1 comme proposé lors du téléchargement ? Merci de votre aide Cordialement R.VIDIL Apologies for the response in English. http://openoffice.org should NOT redirect to anything. Please let us know if this did happen. http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/ is NOT an OpenOffice address, and did not work when I tried it. The download page for OpenOffice is http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html The SourceForge page for OpenOffice is http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/ The current OpenOffice version is 4.0.1. Bon chance... Don
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Donald Whytock wrote: http://openoffice.org should NOT redirect to anything. Please let us know if this did happen. http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/ is NOT an OpenOffice address, and did not work when I tried it. To avoid confusion: when you download from the official site (i.e. when you click the Download button in http://www.openoffice.org/ download/index.html ) you are, in a sense, redirected to SourceForge, since the binary file is downloaded from there. And the download will appear to come from something.dl.sourceforge.net (in Europe I've often see heanet.dl.sourceforge.net and several others). So there are no problems with this redirection. This is what happens for a genuine download from the official page. Regards, Andrea. Sorry for the alarm, then. I clicked on the link and got a Sourceforge page that said, Whoops, we can't find that page. I thought the worst, that someone had managed to spoof the site to a Sourceforge project of their own. Don
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:09:01 -0500 Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Donald Whytock wrote: http://openoffice.org should NOT redirect to anything. Please let us know if this did happen. http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/ is NOT an OpenOffice address, and did not work when I tried it. To avoid confusion: when you download from the official site (i.e. when you click the Download button in http://www.openoffice.org/ download/index.html ) you are, in a sense, redirected to SourceForge, since the binary file is downloaded from there. And the download will appear to come from something.dl.sourceforge.net (in Europe I've often see heanet.dl.sourceforge.net and several others). So there are no problems with this redirection. This is what happens for a genuine download from the official page. Regards, Andrea. Sorry for the alarm, then. I clicked on the link and got a Sourceforge page that said, Whoops, we can't find that page. I thought the worst, that someone had managed to spoof the site to a Sourceforge project of their own. Don heanet is one of the Irish Higher Education Authority servers, which offer a mirror service. They are my local mirror service for many projects and I've always found them reliable (no intrusive addons). Of course, the usual download security should be used. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Getting started with development
Hi It worked like a charm. Thanks for the help. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 10.02.2014 18:32, Pranet Verma wrote: Hi, Thanks for the link. I completed the build earlier, but i'm still not able to achieve the task listed here https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Tutorial_Start 1) This is the exact change i made in the file(Accelerators.xcu): (after line 123) !-- Tutorial-1 -- node oor:name=T_MOD1 oor:op=replace prop oor:name=Commandvalue xml:lang=x-no-translateI10N SHORTCUTS - NO TRANSLATE/value value xml:lang=en-US.uno:About/value /prop /node !-- -- 2) Now the next steps says *You can copy your changed Accelerators.xcu file directly into the install directory (\OpenOffice.org 3\Basis\share\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\Accelerators.xcu).* - Im unable to find this file. When they say install directory, Im assuming they mean : opt/openoffice4/ Sadly, this information is outdated. So i tried the next option: *Or, you can build the module and rebuild the installer (this assumed you have previously fully built it, if not then just do the usual build --all -P4 from the instsetoo module).* Did this one i think. Just followed the building guide and got the software running earlier. So far so good(I think) *From the $SRCROOT\officecfg directory call build, then deliver to send the changed Accelerators.xcu file to the solenv module.* Im assuming this is: source/aoo-trunk/main/officecfg. There is no option to call build or deliver (these are terminal commands here?) The module postprocess/ has to be built, too. So, do cd officecfg build deliver cd ../postprocess build deliver cd ../instsetoo_native build And install the new set of packages (I assume you are working on Linux). The part that is missing from the Wiki page seems to be that several XCU files have to be combined into main.xcd (that is done in postprocess/). You can skip building a new installation set cd ../instsetoo_native build and just copy main.xcd into your installed office like cd .. # (to get back to main/) cp solver/410/platform/xml/main.xcd office-installation/share/ registry/main.xcd where platform the content of the $INPATH environment variable and office-installation is something like /opt/openoffice4/ If you succeed then we can think about updating the Wiki page. -Andre EDIT: i called ./bootstrap and then source LinuxX86Env.Set.shhttp:// linuxx86env.set.sh/ from main/ and then repeated the above step. It worked. Ouput: deliver -- version: 275594 Module 'officecfg' delivered successfully. 1 files copied, 247 files unchanged *Then change to the instsetoo module and call build, then install.* I dont need to do build -all here do I? I just used build, and it did so. 3)After installing when I run, the software and press ctrl+T nothing happens. Could you please tell me where I'm going wrong? Thank You On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Pranet Verma pranetve...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Could you please tell me how to get started with Open Office development? I began by following this guide : https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Development , but after building the source and installing the program when I reached the first tutorial ( https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Tutorial_Start ) it failed(I'm pretty sure i followed all the steps but ctrl+T just doesnt work like its supposed to) . The page does seem to be outdated to me (considering some folder name and syntax of files do not match with the guide, though i may be wrong), I was wondering if there was a better source to learn from. I'm reasonably comfortable with c/c++ , and am pretty active in competitive programming, but developments new for me , so any help is appreciated. Also, if possible could you direct me to modules using c/c++ specifically? Im open to learning new languages, but to start with I would prefer working in a familiar environment. Hi Pranet, Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice project! I'd recommend taking a look at our New Volunteer orientation pages for some useful background on the project and how it works: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/ The page on getting started with development is the key one: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html That will get you started on downloading the source code and doing your first build of OpenOffice. Getting a build running on Linux is pretty easy. Windows takes a bit more effort to set up the pre-reqs. (I've never done a Mac build, but I hear it is easy as well). Either way, give it a try and post further messages if you get stuck. Regards, -Rob Thank You - To unsubscribe, e-mail:
Re: User data storage
On 2/12/14 9:32 PM, jonasalfreds...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking into this bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=2771 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=2771 Where can I find code that store user preferences. I want to store all hyperlinks the user has written into documents and use them to fill the receiver combobox in the 'Insert/Hyperlink' dialog? I understand the user data is stored in the file ~/.openoffice/4/user/registrymodifications.xcu. How do I access it from within the code? I recommend the DevGuide [1] and the related configuration chapter. And SDK contains a sample in Java that shows how to access the configuration. You probably have to define a new schema first to store your data. For testing you can do that via an extension and you can use Java to play around with the API. [1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/Config/Configuration_Management Juergen Anyone got a pointer? /Jonas -- View this message in context: http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/User-data-storage-tp4658954.html Sent from the Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Mehr AOO-downloads bei Heise
From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] Alles andere ergibt sich von selbst mit der Zeit oder auch nicht. Warum also sinnlos bemühen und Zeit verschwenden? Wenig wird sich ergeben wenn masm nicht zielgerichtet etwas tut. Verschwendete Zeit sehe ich darin auch nicht wenn es AOO insgesamt betrifft, denn AOO ist Teil von Apache, Apache hingegen eine Organisation die sich aus ihrem Selbstverständnis heraus nicht nur auf reine Softwareentwicklung beschränken darf sondern auch Überzeugungsarbeit für freie Software leisten und Lobbyismus für freie Software betreiben muss wo das nötig ist. Der Hauptgegner dabei mag propritäre Software sein, wo jedoch die TDF dem Gedanken freier Software hintertreibt und _Verantwortungsträger_ der TDF beginnen anerkannte Mitglieder von Apache zu bashen ist für mich das Maß dessen überschritten wo wir noch schweigen sollten. Wer Mitglieder unserer Apache-Gemeinschaft als Feind beschimpft [1] dem sollte klar sein das er selbst auch an diesen Maßstäben gemessen werden wird. [1] Z.B. http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/msg06246.html Gruß Jörg projektinterne Diskussionen der deutschsprachigen AOO-Community To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-de-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-de-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Mehr AOO-downloads bei Heise
Altes Zitat von ZDNet 2011 ( http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-gets-novells-patents-rights-but-must-share-them-with-open-source-software/8713 ): Microsoft gets Novell's Patents rights but must share them with Open-Source Software Summary: This is not the deal Microsoft wanted, but it's what the Department of Justice insisted on. Oder: von Financial Times: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/9a614062-f670-11df-846a-00144feab49a.html#axzz2t6TBxPrW TsCs http://www.ft.com/servicestools/help/terms and Copyright Policyhttp://www.ft.com/servicestools/help/copyrightfor more detail. Email ftsales.supp...@ft.com to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/9a614062-f670-11df-846a-00144feab49a.html#ixzz2t6UKblOr Microsoft helps seal $2.2bn sale of Novell to Attachmate By Richard Waters in San Francisco and Helen Thomas in New York Microsoft http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:MSFT has stepped in to help seal the $2.2bn sale of Novellhttp://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:NOVL, a struggling US software company, in the latest sign of the latter's strategic significance to some of the industry's biggest players. The world's leading software company said on Tuesday that it had put together a consortium of other technology companies to inject $450m into Novell, in return for carving out part of its portfolio of intellectual property rights. Oder http://techrights.org/2012/08/13/future-hardware-ruined-by-novell/: We criticised Red Hat for what it did [1http://techrights.org/2012/07/20/red-hat-does-not-want-to-defend-its-position-on-uefi/, 2 http://techrights.org/2012/07/25/loss-makes-disruption/, 3http://techrights.org/2012/07/05/uefi-criticism/, 4 http://techrights.org/2012/07/12/non-free-boot-and-debian/, 5http://techrights.org/2012/06/13/red-hat-closed/, 6 http://techrights.org/2012/06/19/microsoft-talking-points-on-uefi/, 7http://techrights.org/2012/06/09/uefi-mistake/] about UEFI http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UEFI and now we shall criticise the Microsoft-funded SUSEhttp://techrights.org/2011/07/25/another-suse-soft-bribe/as well. They just never learn, do they? Pamela Jones helps remind ushttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120810171601102of what Microsoft does to so-called 'partners'. To quote: Novell has followed through, as it said it would, and has filed a notice of appeal in its litigation against Microsoft over antitrust issues from WordPerfect. Why does Novell run back into the same cave that had it devoured in the past? And why did SUSE not stand up to Microsoft? Or even opted for the Canonical approach (which is the lesser of the two evils)? SUSE does not even like Unity all that muchhttp://www.marques.so/2012/08/urban-myth-unity-on-opensuse/. It seems not to follow Canonical's footsteps. SUSE's business model is to use Microsoft to take away from Red Hat while passing Microsoft a share of its gains. Aus den paar mittlerweile ziemlich alten Zitaten geht hervor, dass Microsoft an vielen Projekten seine Finger drin hat. Als damiliger leidenschaftlicher WordPerfect-Anwender weiß ich noch aus eigener Erfahrung, wie Novell das gute Produkt marketingmäßig in den Boden wirtschaftete. Die Aggressivität der Libre-Office-Marketing und von Teilen der Libre-Office-Community sind mir vom ersten Tag extrem übel aufgestoßen. Ihre Sprache ist nicht die gängige Sprache von leidenschaftlichen Freizeit- oder berufsmäßigen Programmierern, die zurecht stolz sein können und sollen auf ein gutes Produkt. 2014-02-12 10:21 GMT+01:00 Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de: From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] Alles andere ergibt sich von selbst mit der Zeit oder auch nicht. Warum also sinnlos bemühen und Zeit verschwenden? Wenig wird sich ergeben wenn masm nicht zielgerichtet etwas tut. Verschwendete Zeit sehe ich darin auch nicht wenn es AOO insgesamt betrifft, denn AOO ist Teil von Apache, Apache hingegen eine Organisation die sich aus ihrem Selbstverständnis heraus nicht nur auf reine Softwareentwicklung beschränken darf sondern auch Überzeugungsarbeit für freie Software leisten und Lobbyismus für freie Software betreiben muss wo das nötig ist. Der Hauptgegner dabei mag propritäre Software sein, wo jedoch die TDF dem Gedanken freier Software hintertreibt und _Verantwortungsträger_ der TDF beginnen anerkannte Mitglieder von Apache zu bashen ist für mich das Maß dessen überschritten wo wir noch schweigen sollten. Wer Mitglieder unserer Apache-Gemeinschaft als Feind beschimpft [1] dem sollte klar sein das er selbst auch an diesen Maßstäben gemessen werden wird. [1] Z.B. http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/msg06246.html Gruß Jörg projektinterne Diskussionen der deutschsprachigen AOO-Community To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-de-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-de-h...@openoffice.apache.org
