Re: [VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO Chair.
On 16 Aug 2015, at 14:57, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: This is a call for a formal vote among the 1 candidate for the AOO Chair role. Due to the fact that there are only 1 candidate we could use lazy consensus, but since some persons might be against that, we will use majority vote, as if there was multiple candidates. Voting rules are as follows: - Only PMC votes are binding, but everybody are welcome to vote - The nominee with the most +1 (deducted -1) gets elected - VOTE runs until Sunday August 23th - As outgoing Chair, I will send resolution to Board August 23th. Please vote [X] +1, I want Dennis Hamilton as new Chair [ ] +0, I do not care if Dennis Hamilton becomes new Chair [ ] -1, I am against Dennis Hamilton becomes new chair (out of curtesy, please add another suggestion). +1 /Peter Have fun voting. rgds jan i. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open office Calc crashing
On 17/07/15 17:53, Binny James wrote: Hi, May I know why this coming: I am working in a Windows 8 64 bit I was working with calc, copied a sheet | selected all sheet and set Calibri font and size 11. Sincerely Binny On 23-Feb-15 11:26 AM, Binny James wrote: Hi, Downloaded and installed new 4.1.1 Open office. Saved a file in .doc extension. When copy some data from Thunderbird to the file and save, it went stuck, the progress bar show 'Exporting document' After a long time it saved. The file has total 19 pages Thanks Binny On 2/4/2015 10:13 AM, Binny James wrote: Dear Sir, Yesterday got the same crash here I am attaching screenshots Please see the screenshots that I got Sincerely Binny On 1/30/2015 6:03 PM, Binny James wrote: Dear Sir, Probably one time I get crash a day. Today also I got the same case. I will let you know more on coming Monday Did not see any error, but I saw some in Even Viewer, it says some config delay, sure I shall get you on Monday... Sincerely Binny On 1/29/2015 10:05 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Please provide more information about your experience with Calc crashing. 0. Had Help worked previously in your installation and use of Calc, or is this the first time you employed help with 4.0.1 while in Calc? 1. Can you upgrade to Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 and confirm that the same problem occurs with this latest version? Please use http://openoffice.org/download for the latest version and do not select any other choices after requesting the 4.1.1 download. Wait for it to commence. 2. What language do you use for the download choice? 3. Do you install any additional language selections? What are they? 4. When you start OpenOffice and do not select an application, what does Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages have for Language of User Interface and Language of Local settings? 5. Under Tools - Options - OpenOffice - General, is Help Agent checked? For Help formatting, is the selection Default or something else. 6. Is special accessibility software being used on your computer? 7. Without opening Calc, just with OpenOffice started, does the menu Help - OpenOffice Help F1 open or does it crash. If it crashes, how does it crash? Are there any messages? Any additional details of this kind will help us to isolate the conditions under which your problem has occurred. Otherwise, other uses here may simply report that it works for them and the problem cannot be reproduced. - Dennis PS: You have reached a public mailing list on which volunteers contribute to questions from other users like themselves. For any follow-up, please reply to us...@openoffice.apache.org where expert users can offer further advice and others can learn the solutions to problems. Advisors on this list do not promise to respond to questions sent directly to their email addresses. Pleas subscribe to us...@openoffice.apache.org to observe questions and solutions posted to the list and not to you. The OpenOffice Forums have an extensive knowledge base at https://forum.openoffice.org/ that you can browse through as well. -Original Message- From: Binny James [mailto:binny.ja...@firmusoft.co.in] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 01:00 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; pr...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Open office Calc crashing Dear Sir, I am facing an issue in CALC, open the existing CALC application, edit and press F1 key. Here it crashes. Using Open office 4.0.1 My OS: Windows 8.1 Pro Expecting reply... Regards Binny - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Office Application BoF @ OSTC, Beijing 2015/3/28
Dear Imacat, it was a pleasure meeting you at the Office Apps BoF in Beijing. Although we were a small group we certainly had an interesting discussion. Thanks again for having organized the event. Kindest regards Peter On 14/03/15 18:37, imacat wrote: Dear Peter, Peter Junge on 2015/03/14 15:50 said: Hi Imacat, thanks a lot for proposing the Office Apps BoF. You can certainly count me in. Is the venue and time finally confirmed yet? I would also like to announce the BoF on the Beijing LUG website because some people who are or were involved in AOO, LO, OOo and RedOffice are frequently checking it. Yes, it's confirmed. The time is 12:20-13:40 and the venue is the speaker's lunch room. The staff in OSTC will announce it in the conference, too. Ross shall join us. Please help us announce it at BLUG and encourage BLUG members to come. Many thanks. ^_^ /Peter On 12/03/15 19:16, imacat wrote: Dear all, Is there anybody that will attend to OSTC 2015, Beijing at the end of this month (3/28)? I would like to call for a BoF on Office Application at the noon of OSTC. We may have some talks and know each other, and have some small discussion about the development of OpenOffice in the future. Ross Gardler, one of the board of directors of ASF, will join us in the event. And we are still asking for more guests, maybe from MS OOXML. So if you are interested in the development of OpenOffice, or simply want to know more friends in the community, please reply and let us know so we can arrange the venue. ^_^ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Question about your product
On March 22, 2015 12:38:07 AM GMT+08:00, Rose Langer r.lan...@live.nl wrote: Hello Apache OpenOffice, I have a question and i hope you can help me: I have recently began using your product and really like it! A friend of mine is interested in your product too. She asked me about it but i was unable to answer a question. She wonders about privacy of your product. Her question basicly was wether you or anyone else can see what she writes? Like it is somehow send or saved without her knowing? I hope you can help/inform us and many thanks in advance! Kind greetings, Rose Langer -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Office Application BoF @ OSTC, Beijing 2015/3/28
Hi Imacat, thanks a lot for proposing the Office Apps BoF. You can certainly count me in. Is the venue and time finally confirmed yet? I would also like to announce the BoF on the Beijing LUG website because some people who are or were involved in AOO, LO, OOo and RedOffice are frequently checking it. /Peter On 12/03/15 19:16, imacat wrote: Dear all, Is there anybody that will attend to OSTC 2015, Beijing at the end of this month (3/28)? I would like to call for a BoF on Office Application at the noon of OSTC. We may have some talks and know each other, and have some small discussion about the development of OpenOffice in the future. Ross Gardler, one of the board of directors of ASF, will join us in the event. And we are still asking for more guests, maybe from MS OOXML. So if you are interested in the development of OpenOffice, or simply want to know more friends in the community, please reply and let us know so we can arrange the venue. ^_^ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair
On 06/02/15 20:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 30/01/2015 19:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Who of the two candidates do you prefer to replace Andrea Pescetti as the OpenOffice project PMC Chair? [ ] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid) [ ] Jan Iversen (jani) Vote opens now and it will last one week, until 6 February 2015 7:00 PM GMT, to give all community members the opportunity to participate. Vote is closed. Preliminary results see 10 binding votes for jani, 8 binding votes for orcmid. But results are so close that I recommend that everybody who voted checks below that I counted his/her vote correctly. Let me know if I made any mistakes, please. What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache philosophy, such votes are no majority votes but consensus is the goal. 10(+5) to 8(+3) with 9 abstaining is a thin margin, I'm not yet seeing any clear consensus in it. A a considerable and easy way out might be a double chair with both Jan and Dennis; especially they also seem to have complementary skills. /Peter Votes from the OpenOffice PMC http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice-pmc : 10 jani: alg arist hdu jsc khiranomarcus mechtildemikeadvo orw pescetti 8 orcmid: arielch galoppini kschenk louispj regina robweir wave 9 Abstaining: af atjensendpharbison fanyuzhenimacat ingotian jim mayongl rgb-es Plus the following votes from other community members: 5 jani (Michal Hrin, Simon Phipps, Olaf Felka, Alexandro Colorado, Guy Waterval) 3 orcmid (Keith N. McKenna, V Stuart Foote, Dave Barton) Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair
On 31/01/15 02:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Who of the two candidates do you prefer to replace Andrea Pescetti as the OpenOffice project PMC Chair? [ X] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid) (binding) [ ] Jan Iversen (jani) Vote opens now and it will last one week, until 6 February 2015 7:00 PM GMT, to give all community members the opportunity to participate. The resolution will be submitted to the Board in time for the February meeting (18 February 2015). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: To receive answers to my posts
Hi Peter, selective/filtered responses are not possible for AOO mailing lists. You can only opt to receive either all or none. If you chose the latter option, me and the other moderators will let your emails through to the list and you will be able to track the replies with the public archive of the mailing list at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/. Another option would be writing a filter rule for you email client. This works extremely well with Thunderbird but the web clients of popular email services are usually very limited when it comes to filtering. Best regards Peter On 19/11/14 04:44, Peter wrote: I only wish to receive email responses to my posts: I am registered as: Name: Bumpalot Pass: bumpysax email address: bumpy...@gmail.com Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: emails to issues list
On 12/11/14 00:49, Mathias Röllig wrote: Hello! Why it is possible that someone can send emails directly to the issues mailing list? e. g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-issues/201411.mbox/%3C91286B00937747BA82897BA23D28C798%40Mainframe%3E Likely I have moderated it through because it didn't stumble over that it's issues@ rather than qa@. Sorry, if that was the case. Will pay more attention in the future. /Peter Regards, Mathias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Which project Instance has jurisdiction in disputes?
Hi Michael, On 24/09/14 19:13, RA Stehmann wrote: On 24.09.2014 10:50, Jörg Schmidt wrote: [...] I don't want to protect trolls, but there are different meanings about how to handle the problem. I only refuse the way of acting Jörg wants to dictate me. I am dictating here nothing. Ok, excuse my poor English. I only refuse the way of acting Jörg wants to instruct me. We discussed that topic on the list. To ban an email address isn't very effective, because that person is able to join the mailing list with another email address. I have been banning a couple of trolls over the years and they had never resubscribed with another email address. If that happens, moderators need to show that the game is many against one and continue kicking the guy out. So some people proposed to ignore his posting and, if that person gives wrong advices to users, to mark them factually as a wrong advice. The result of this is that the email traffic is increasing with many postings that are not useful to the average list reader. Consequently, a couple of those average list readers will unsubscribe which is not desirable. I would strongly recommend to immediately ban the guy who's disturbing the list's peace if he has been properly warned before. /Peter I think, that's a proper way. But the other supporters has to support that way, because I don't know anything better than that person. But some people react very angry. That seems to feed the troll. Now Jörg confides me anymore and that's very irksome for the germanophone community, There are sometimes strong disputes between him and me. I've declared, if the community really wants to have another moderator, I will abdicate, no problem: I've enough other ways to support Free Software. But Jörg names that as a behavior of a politician (That's no flattery.). Kind regards Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: July Board report (draft)
On 08/07/14 05:23, Andrea Pescetti wrote: It's report time again. The report for April, May, and June is available in draft at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2014+Jul Feel free to complete and make corrections. It is due in a couple days. Looks good to me. /Peter Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: E-mail outage resolved
On 19/05/14 06:54, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Without to blame someone or doing any finger-pointing. Just FYI The mail backlog seems still not yet empty. I receive new mails - e.g., mails from commits I've done - appr. 30-45 min. later than before the mail outage. I also have a kind of feeling that I have been receiving much less emails than I should have so far, OTOH I have been receiving a couple of emails twice. Peter Marcus Am 05/13/2014 12:05 PM, schrieb jan iversen: On 13 May 2014 11:55, Mathias Rölligmroellig.n...@gmx.net wrote: Hello Andrea! All OpenOffice mailing lists were silent in the last few days. The reason was a severe outage of the Apache mail servers. Messages were queued but not delivered. Service will back to normal in a matter of hours, and we will receive all messages in queue. Because some of my messages (direct to the dev-list or automated from Bugzilla to the issues-list) are not received at this time: Already some messages are in the queue? If not I want to resend my messages to the dev-list but I want to prevent double sending. The backlog queue is still being emptied, there was 9 million mails in it, so that takes days before all mails are sent (e.g. google throttles our mail sending). rgds jan I. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: April Board report
On 12/04/14 01:49, Andrea Pescetti wrote: A draft of our Board report for April is available at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2014+Apr Thanks, looks good to me. Peter Please check and comment, since it is due soon! Feel free to edit the page directly. The report covers January, February and March 2014. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice Wiki
Jean Calvet jean.cal...@neuf.fr wrote: Hay everyone, I wanted to suscribe to the forum. Error Error again Error still But 100%, I made any mistaque: it's so simple!! But ... I got the message: *Erreur de connexion* Code de confirmation erroné ou manquant What the meaning of Code de confirmation In fact, ther is any in the page: https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLoginaction=submitlogintype=signupreturnto=Main+Page as shown here. Et comme je n'ai pas pu m'inscrire, je ne puis pas respecter ce qui est écrit ailleurs: mon adresse électronique reconnue. Avec amitié et reconnaissance par ailleurs. Jean -- -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Apache OpenOffice - programosy
At the download page (www.programosy.pl/program,openoffice-org.html), I find: ++ Producent: CollabNet, Inc ++ Licencja: Freeware (darmowa) I think that needs to be fixed. On 11/13/2013 11:56 PM, Partnership Programosy wrote: Hello, Apache OpenOffice is on our site in first place in its category: http://www.programosy.pl/kategoria,pakiety-biurowe,1,1.html To this day, it was downloaded 55,348 times. Can we ask you to add our link: http://www.programosy.pl/program,openoffice-org.html in this place: http://www.openoffice.org/awards/ This program has been awarded five stars by our editors. We would be honored if on your website will be placed one of our logo: http://programosy.pl/img/stars.png or http://programosy.pl/images/b_programosypl.png or http://www.programosy.pl/favicon.ico or link. Programosy.pl has ~40 000 unique users visits a day. *IMPORTANT: ** **All your correspondence is visible here*: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/ ***Please reply. It is very important to us. We will be grateful. * - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Listing in the Consultants registry
It looks like no one has ever replied to Inge's request. Hi Inge, you need to provide the information in a certain format. The latest discussion I found about how it works can be found with the link below: http://markmail.org/message/n6sllpi4qocxxq34 Best regards, Peter On 10/04/2013 04:38 PM, Inge Wallin wrote: Hi, My name is Inge Wallin and I represent my company KO GmbH. We would like to be listed in your page Apache OpenOffice Consultants at http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html . I think many of you know me already and also know of KO since I met several people at ODF plugfests and other conferences. Here are our submission details: Name: KO GmbH Country: DE, NL, UK, SE, DK (headquarters in DE) Practice: Other (May I suggest that OpenDocument is added to the predefined options?) Description: KO GmbH is one of the worlds leading experts on the Open Document Format and products that use it. We also have extensive expertize in file format conversion between different office file formats, especially Microsoft formats. Website: http://www.kogmbh.com/landings-openoffice.html Email: i...@kogmbh.com Best regards, Inge Wallin KO GmbH - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Is it possible to be a distributor of open office software
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
prettybutch...@aol.com wrote: Hello I am unable to access my open office. Can you please assist me? Thanks for your reply, Ms. Phyllis -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 10/10/2013 11:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons I like the flat icons very much. Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old version looked nicer than the current one Old version: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png Current one, removing the orb from the header: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png Looks very nice. Peter To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to restart the application). Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Hi Bill, likely you downloaded OpenOffice from another source than the official channel accessible at http://www.openoffice.org/download/. We would be interested in where you got it from. Unfortunately there's a lot of fraud around. Best regards, Peter On 9/24/2013 9:15 AM, Bill Ziegler wrote: My virus software picks up a virus when trying to download your latest software. One is s0GzNmS6.exe.part,the other one is 4x6z9SSj.exe.part. They could also be ad ware,but still makes them impossible to download them on my computer. Thank you ! Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Admin mailing list
Seems quite reasonable Peter Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I'd like to propose a new mailing list: ad...@openoffice.apache.org It would serve a few primary purposes: 1) A focused mailing list to help our volunteer admins coordinate maintenance of our project infrastructure, or at least that portion of it maintained by the project. 2) It would give a single point of contact for admin-related questions, outage reports and requests from project members or the public. 3) It would allow other parties interested in monitoring our admin discussion, say Infra@ members, to follow a more focused list. If this idea sounds good, we'd need the usual set of 3 or so moderators, geographically disbursed. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Drop support for OSX 10.4 and 10.5 for AOO 4.1
On 8/8/2013 4:08 PM, Herbert Duerr wrote: In the [discuss] drop support for Java 5 and Java 6 for Windows thread Rob wrote: And remember, the cost of supporting old platforms is not just the dev work. It also involves QA and support.. If we say we support something then we really ought to be testing in, not just saying that we not aware of any problems. The OpenOffice brand should mean that users can run on any supported platform and have a good experience. IMHO we should not say we support a platform unless we're willing and able to meet that kind of expectation. This is very true also in other areas. I suggest we drop support for OSX 10.4 and 10.5 for Apache OpenOffice 4.1. There are some good points for the proposal: - the latest update of OSX 10.4 was in 2007 and Apple dropped support for it in May 2011 - the latest update of OSX 10.5 was in 2009 and Apple dropped support for it in July 2012 - Mozilla stopped releasing for them after FireFox 16 - Google stopped releasing for them after Chrome 22 - Microsoft stopped releasing for them after MSO 2011 - Adobe stopped releasing for them in 2012 - Oracle only provides Java for OSX 10.6 and up - Adium stopped releasing for them after Adium 1.4.5 - etc. Makes sense: +1 Of course one could say that our development and testing community is way bigger than their counterparts in the above projects and companies even if were to combine their teams. From that supposition we'd have resources to spare to keep releasing for these unsupported platforms. On the other hand the assumption is a bit on the optimistic side and so we have keep reevaluating our target platforms. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO -- should we submit a new acronym?
On 7/30/2013 6:30 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/AOO Certainly +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Checksum doesn't match
On 7/28/2013 3:52 AM, sebb wrote: On 27 July 2013 20:48, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/27/2013 08:10 PM, schrieb Maritta Coppieters: Hi, trying to download open office 4.0.0, can't get it to install. It looks like the md5 checksum doesn't match, any known issues? I'm on a Toshiba Satellite L855D 64 bit, running Windows 7, downloading with Firefox 22. Download file is Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US, 27,601KB. The download seems to be incomplete because it has to be ~143.4 MB. So, your file size is not correct. I've seen this before with FIrefox - the download appears to have completed successfully but is in fact incomplete. No error is reported. That seems to be a genera 'feature' of Firefox. I haven't got the most stable connection hence download breaks sometimes and Firefox never threw any error. Peter Make sure you download from the official website: http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html And you should compare the MD5 checksum of the downloaded file with the hash value from this file: http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe.md5 If needed, here is a howto description for using checksums: http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.1_checksums.html#howto I hope this will help you. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release
On 7/26/2013 12:18 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Pavel Janík pa...@janik.cz wrote: Rob, On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Rob Weir wrote: This is the advantage of writing innovative code, not just copying it. can you please stop writing such stupid sentences? Notice that I do not talk at all about the particular license issue. I'm not talking about license issues either. I'm just saying that if you are the originator of a feature then you get press coverage twice: the 1st time when you initially release it and then a 2nd time when another project copies it. We're seeing that now. A specific example, Ars Technica, on the LO 4.1 release: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/libreoffice-4-1-is-released-borrows-new-sidebar-from-openoffice/ Your comment there doesn't help anyone. Peter Headline: LibreOffice 4.1 is released, borrows new sidebar from OpenOffice / 3,000 bugs fixed in latest LibreOffice, many by Apache developers. Regards, -Rob Personally, I think it is an advantage to get such press coverage. Maybe you disagree. But since this is a thread about press coverage, such observations are entire on topic. Regards, -Rob A few people in other project do the same stuff as you do and maybe you can fight with them in some mud, but why mud-spraying all the people in this mailing list? -- Pavel Janík - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify
On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi Jürgen, I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I think it might be possible that it happens only in very special circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running while working with AOO 4. I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a crash. Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to specific hardware, e.g. graphics card? @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you have any special hardware? Peter Max Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new bug sorry if its a duplicate. It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut. Paste seems to not be affected. The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to reproduce. An update on this crash. I was eventually able to reproduce it on Windows 8, 64-bit. This was an initial install, not an upgrade. Samer saw it on an upgrade install. I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8 machine had a debugger installed). Herbert gave me a patch to test. It appears to work on my machine. We're waiting to hear back from Samer on whether it worked for him. If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to know whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752. To test it please - download the DLL - copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this will be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\ - if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted - run your tests again that used to crash it nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that Herbert's fix is solving the problem? We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the problem partly before he used the patched library. Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and windows is our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 1-2 hours longer to receive potentially more feedback. Juergen Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify
On 7/16/2013 8:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote: On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi Jürgen, I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I think it might be possible that it happens only in very special circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running while working with AOO 4. I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a crash. Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to specific hardware, e.g. graphics card? @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you have any special hardware? it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr. Do we need another 72-hour vote? If there are no objections I'd support making a patch without triggering a full vote. +1 Peter -Rob I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week. It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is of course important ;-) If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00 pm (UTC +2). Juergen Peter Max Am 16.07.2013 11:48, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new bug sorry if its a duplicate. It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut. Paste seems to not be affected. The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to reproduce. An update on this crash. I was eventually able to reproduce it on Windows 8, 64-bit. This was an initial install, not an upgrade. Samer saw it on an upgrade install. I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8 machine had a debugger installed). Herbert gave me a patch to test. It appears to work on my machine. We're waiting to hear back from Samer on whether it worked for him. If anyone else was able to reproduce the problem then we'd love to know whether the DLL at http://people.apache.org/~hdu/sysdtrans.dll solves the problem. It contains the patch I suggested in issue 122752. To test it please - download the DLL - copy it into the OpenOffice program folder, on most systems this will be the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program\ - if the system warns you that you are overwriting a program file then please confirm with YES, as that is exactly what is wanted - run your tests again that used to crash it nobody out there who is able to reproduce the problem and can say that Herbert's fix is solving the problem? We have reviewed the patch from Herbert with 3 people and the patch is save. The fix solved the issue for Rob who was able to reproduce the problem partly before he used the patched library. Windows 8 becomes more and more important on the desktop and windows is our main platform. I tend to a respin at the moment but will wait 1-2 hours longer to receive potentially more feedback. Juergen Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e
Re: Draft Blog Post: Rejected
On 7/16/2013 10:14 PM, Rob Weir wrote: A quick and timely post: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=rejected Detlaf - Detlef (most likely, please check) Hebert - Herbert (for sure) That 'I want to wake up in a community that doesn't sleep' theme reminds me of Frank Sinatra. :-) Thanks a lot. Peter Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify
On 7/16/2013 9:30 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: We found the mystery trick. Have Windows File Explorer open. I overlooked that in my environment because its seems so core to the OS. I still cannot reproduce it. You have some more apps open in that video. Can they be related as well? Anyway, if the fix works everything seems fine. Thanks a lot. Peter Here is the video of the error reproduced: https://t.co/VLAyfSGwQC This fix sent to me by Herbert Duerr via e-mail fixes the issue. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Simon, Juergen and all, I have checked the dll on Windows 7 in Writer/Calc/Impress, with steps: enter Hello World, Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-C to copy, Ctrl-X to cut, Ctrl-V to paste, and also using menu, like 'Edit' - 'Copy', 'Cut' or 'Paste'. All above function work without regression. Regards, Yu Zhen On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Juergen, I believe it is a right decision to respin and include this fix. While besides verifying it on Windows 8, I also asked Yu Zhen to help verify the dll on Windows 7 to ensure the fix is no impact to Windows 7. Yu Zhen will update the result within hours. Thanks very much for your quick turn around on this critical issue! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/7/16 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 7/16/13 2:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote: On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi Jürgen, I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I think it might be possible that it happens only in very special circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running while working with AOO 4. I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a crash. Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to specific hardware, e.g. graphics card? @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you have any special hardware? it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr. Do we need another 72-hour vote? If there are no objections I'd support making a patch without triggering a full vote. from my point of view not, I know the code, what we change and I can live with reviewing the generated patch between the RC and the new build. And the longer I am thinking about the issue and that it is now known that there is a potential problem I am getting more confident that we should do the respin. I will check what other potential important uncritical fixes can we include as well. But I would like to have it at a minimum to reduce the testing effort for the respin. Juergen -Rob I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week. It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is of course important ;-) If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00 pm (UTC +2). Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit
On 7/15/2013 10:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: [...] And my translation: I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in my first attempt. - AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341 - AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots. - And the installation folders in \Program File(x86) I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before RC-Installation. I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot previously and therefore no config folder \4 exists. Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old versions, and never got problems (or never notice some.) I'll do some testing tonight. I have two clean VM images, for Windows 8 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit, that I can install the AOO 4.0 RC on. Since these are fresh images they don't have any residual files from previous AOO installs. I was not able to get a crash with AOO 4.0 RC on Windows 7 64-bit or Windows 8 32-bit. I tested Writer in a document with a mix of objects and formats, doing a lot of editing, formatting, copy/paste and delete operations, including formatting via the Sidepanel. This was the en-US version. So this doesn't look like a shallow crash that everyone will see. But it would be good to narrow it down.For example, has anyone seen it on a non-German version? Is that a clue? Is a particular object involved? I tried also with images, drawings, lists, tables, etc. Was anything more exotic involved? While I was a QA engineer for OpenOffice at Sun, we had: ++ Crashes that were limited to a particular language ++ Crashes that happened only (exactly) once with every installation. ++ Crashes that happened only after the first start of an installation ++ Of course, crashes that were limited to a particular language ++ ... Now imagine even a combination of two or more of those preconditions and you may prefer looking for a needle in a haystack. Virtualbox for example has the great feature of taking snapshots. That should be extremely useful to be able to rollback preconditions. Peter Mine was a clean new install, not an update. But it is hard to imagine a scenario where copy or delete operations behave differently depending on whether the install was an update or not. -Rob -Rob Kind regards Regina Kind regards Regina - Dennis -Original Message- From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de] Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Regina Henschel Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit Hi Regina, I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again. Max Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi all, there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.) The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit. Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got Windows 8. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Contact message (from Lurie Austinser)
On 7/12/2013 12:36 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Lurie Austinser lurieaust...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I have bumped into your site while seeking for software and found your website very interesting :) Just a quick note, http://www.blackdown.org/ is no longer active, and you are linking to it from page - http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Porting_to_x86-64_(AMD64,_EM64T) I was wondering if you don't mind updating the link to the updated website en.DownloadAstro.com (http://en.downloadastro.com/) - A great download site with more than 300K software and games, including professional reviews and user ratings. We are now in a process of updating the links in websites all around the world and I will appreciate your cooperation. I am sure your users will find it useful. Thanks, Lurie Hi Lurie -- The wiki page you refenced says it is *archived for historical reasons only. *We should probably state this a little differently. What this means is that we're leaving the page on the wiki but it is not longer current. Probably the only reason this page references blackdown.org was because it was a open soruce java implementation at one time*: *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackdown_Java the predecessor to OpenJDK, now used on most Linux systems, and not likely for any other reason like a general software repository. In summary, thanks for the note, but we will not be changing the link on this old wiki page. We will, however, make some changes to the wiki page archive message so it's not confusing. These pages are not active and many of them do contain outdated information.* I guess that was a message from a kind of robot which looks for links like blackdown.org and then automatically sends out spam if it finds one. The page they are advertising looks pretty much like one of these download traps that we have so much trouble with. Peter * - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Deutschsprachiges AOO Forum
Hi Raphael, I guess this went to the wrong mailing list. Peter On 7/7/2013 9:07 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hallo zusammen Gerade für normale Anwender ist ein Forum oft angenehmer zum schreiben als eine ML. Normalerweise verlinken wir ja auf das Forum auf http://de.openoffice.info was ich persönlich eigentlich eine gute Lösung finde. Ich möchte allerdings dennoch mal die Frage in den Raum werfen, ob ein deutschsprachiges Forum unter http://forum.openoffice.org wünschenswert wäre. Wenn ja, sollten wir dazu ein Proposal vorbereiten. Grundsätzlich benötigen wir dafür insbesondere zwei Administratoren. Gruss Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: missing mails (to moderators)
Sorry, I was assuming it is a prank. On 6/29/2013 5:34 PM, janI wrote: Hi. Our mwiki have tried to sent mail to dev@openoffice.apache.org I have created a new user WikiAdmin with dev@ as e-mail, as a consequence mwiki have sent confirmation mails to dev@ which needs to be replied to. I cannot see the mails on the list, so I assume that they are hold back on some moderator list. Please confirm these mails, so mwiki can sent mail to dev@ thx in advance. jan I. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Congratulations to Andrea and Andrew!
Congratulations too. Great news! On 6/11/2013 7:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: Both Andrea Pescetti and Andrew Rist were among those elected as new ASF Members. Congratulations for the well-deserved recognition! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Moderated messages not reaching the original poster
On 2013年05月16日 05:07, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 14/05/2013 janI wrote: I have, during my time with infra, learned that asking is a good way to start an issue and get imidiate feedback, and then create a jira. The feedback hasn't arrived yet, but I have now created a JIRA issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6282 Thanks a lot. Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DEV] Website
Hi Raphael, I assume that message was supposed for the German list, but you have send it to the international one. Best regards, Peter On 5/26/2013 4:32 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hallo zusammen Erst mal möchte ich mich recht herzlich entschuldigen dass ich mich so lange nicht gemeldet habe. Ich war zwei Wochen mit übelsten Rückenschmerzen beschäftigt und kaum am Projekt aktiv. Jetzt geht es aber wieder etwas besser. Grundsätzlich denke ich, dass es nicht sinnvoll ist, das statching für beta Versionen zu gebrauchen. dafür werde ich nun gleich ein test Verzeichniss anlegen. Grundsätzlich stellen sich für mich die folgenden Fragen: 1. Welche Inhalte brauchen wir. 2. Welche Inhalte haben wir auf der Seite, und können mit vertretbarem Aufwand angepasst werden. 3. Welche Inhalte bestehen auf dritt Seiten (z.B. PrOOo Box) und können gelinkt werden. Ich möchte doppelte Arbeit wirklich vermeiden. 4. Welche Seiten müssen erstellt werden 5. Wer macht was. Ich denke, dass wir alles auf einer Wiki Seite sammeln können, um so die Arbeit zu koordinieren. Wäre das ein Vorschlag Gruss Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Moderated messages not reaching the original poster
On 4/16/2013 11:04 AM, Peter Junge wrote: On 4/16/2013 7:19 AM, RGB ES wrote: 2013/4/16 Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: When non-subscribers email the list, do they at least get an autoresponse that says, You're not a subscriber to this email list, so you might not see responses to your email. Subscribe by clicking here!? Far as I can tell, the answer is no. Is this something that can be done? I don't think that, in case something like this is possible, all people will be willing of subscribing the dev mailing lists, so a better message could be You're not a subscriber to this email list, so you might not see responses to your email. Read all the messages sent to the list here markmail archives or subscribe by clicking here. Very good idea. Did someone ever file an issue or checked out if the proposed solution works for infra? Best regards, Peter Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: draft blog post: With Special Guest Star... Apache OpenOffice
On 4/18/2013 11:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=with_special_guest_star_apache This is time-sensitive, so I'd like to get this out this afternoon. Great! Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Moderated messages not reaching the original poster
On 4/16/2013 7:19 AM, RGB ES wrote: 2013/4/16 Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: When non-subscribers email the list, do they at least get an autoresponse that says, You're not a subscriber to this email list, so you might not see responses to your email. Subscribe by clicking here!? Far as I can tell, the answer is no. Is this something that can be done? I don't think that, in case something like this is possible, all people will be willing of subscribing the dev mailing lists, so a better message could be You're not a subscriber to this email list, so you might not see responses to your email. Read all the messages sent to the list here markmail archives or subscribe by clicking here. Very good idea. Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Moderated messages not reaching the original poster
Hi,
I know we had discussions like this before but I'm not able to find them
in the archives.
Senders of moderated messages are often missing replies because they go
to mailing list only. AFAIR, technical solutions proposed so far weren't
accepted. Did we already consider to ask infra to change the 'Reply-To'
header form '{MAILING_LIST}' to '{MAILING_LIST}; {ORIGINAL_POSTER}'?
This would force mail clients to include the OP as recipient.
Best regards,
Peter
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Re: draft blog post: press@ - It's easy to get first hand information
This article is really a good idea.
... distributing correct information and P { margin-bottom: 0.08in; }
use such incorrect information ... in the third sentence should be
corrected for an obvious reason.
On 4/3/2013 8:10 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
Hi,
I am a little bit annoyed about the often bad researched articles about
OpenOffice or at least articles spreading wrong information about
OpenOffice. I don't know exactly why authors do such a poor job with
their research of correct information where it is so easy on the other
hand to get first information. The idea is to raise some awareness that
the info found in the web is not always true and it is much better to
get first hand information from the project and the people behind it
directly. Nobody have to rely on third party information found somewhere
when first hand information can be get so so easy.
Well the wording can and should be improved and I am sure others will
have further ideas to improve it or make it even better to send out the
right signal. Se please review the draft and your feedback is welcome.
It's mainly an idea and I am not sure if it is the best way to address
this.
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=press_it_s_easy_to
Juergen
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Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN
On 4/3/2013 9:05 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I think restricting this would be a horrible idea, since we still have a shortage of developers. Limiting it by permissions and creating a red tape would be even more problematic. I think the key here is about the aproved releases. I don't really use windows, so I am not very familiar with the topic and whole process at hand when installing and testing. However I would focus more on the final QA than the initial access/commit to the code. I'm talking about restricting access for non-programmers, those who have permissions currently, but who have never ever contributed a single line of code. No actual programmer would be restricted. Could I check in code to be build with AOO? I assume yes. If that assumption is correct, I totally agree that such ability should be disabled. I don't need that to moderate mailing lists and observing from the peanut gallery. Peter For the kinds of risks I'm describing QA would accomplish nothing. Any hacker worth the name would delay activation of an attack until after millions of copies had already been installed, and then they would activate the code remotely. -Rob On 4/3/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We're starting to take a deeper look at what is required to integrate code signing into the OpenOffice build and release process. As you probably know operating systems, especially Windows and MacOS, are now checking for digital signatures and by default prevent users from installing programs that are not signed. We see similar checks being integrated into anti-virus scanners and even web browsers now. One of the things that has come out in discussions is how large a target OpenOffice is, to hackers. We're on track to have 50 million downloads in our first year. If someone is able to get a virus or a trojan into our code, they have the ability to cause a huge amount of damage. And if we are also signing our code, then this damage can propagate even faster, since the OS's let down their guard somewhat when dealing with signed code. (Signed code == trust). Of course, none of this has ever happened with OpenOffice, but with the stature and reach we have, it is reasonable to believe that we could be a target of opportunity for someone wishing to cause trouble. We should always keep this in mind and make sure that we are taking reasonable precautions to prevent this from happening. One vulnerability, in theory, is that we have over 100 committers (123 to be exact) who have permission to modify the source code in Subversion. Each account is protected by a self-selected passcode. It is not clear to me that we even have requirements on password complexity or expiration policies. In any case, the weakness of this approach is not necessarily what you might think -- brute force attack on the password. If someone wants to initiate a spear phishing attack against a committer, it would be something like: 1) Standard phishing: a spoofed note from Apache Infra, with some invented story that asks you to change your password but first enter your old one for confirmation. It leads you to a fake, non-Apache website. 2) If you use the same passcode on multiple web services and one of them is compromised, say by retrieving the passcode hashes, then it is easy to do offline dictionary attacks (rainbow tables, etc.) and figure out your Apache password. 3) If you lose control of your laptop, at a conference, bar, hotel, whatever, even temporarily, someone can gain access to your Subversion account, via applications that cache credentials, like TortoiseSVN. 4) Similar to #3, but by taking control of your laptop via remote means, i.e., via a virus loaded on to your machine via another vulnerability. None of these things have happened to us yet, but all of these things are possible. So how do we reduce this risk? There are a few things we do or should be doing already. 1) Be careful on the machines that you use Subversion from. Treat it like a machine where you access your bank account from. If you are visiting risky sites or downloading and installing software from dubious places, then you are putting your Apache account at risk. 2) Use a high-complexity Apache passcode, one not used by you on any other service. 3) Change your passcode periodically, say every 90 days. 4) On laptops be sure to set a strong login password, but also where available also a separate harddrive password. These should also be strong passwords, not reused, and should be periodically changed. For those who are building binaries for distribution, the above guidance is even more critical. Of course, we also protect the code through our CTR process. All active coders should be subscribed to the commits list and should be reviewing the changes that are made there. Trust the code, not the person. Remember, if we ever are attacked then it
Re: Exit moderation mailing
On 4/1/2013 6:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: I am moderator of mailing doc,api @ o.a.o. Today I am out of time to moderate, I ask to remove moderation. Thanks. Do we have someone willing to replace Albino, preferably (but not necessarily) in the American time zones? It is better to replace a moderator rather than removing one. @Andrea: To me Albino's request reads like he's asking to take a break from moderating for just one day, but not permanently. @Albino: Can you please clarify? In general, removing you as moderator for just one day is by far too complicated. Peter The task is very easy and not very time-consuming: you will receive a notification for every posting attempt to the doc@ and api@ lists by a non-member, and (if it's not spam) you simply reply to the notification message to approve the post. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: can the openoffice run in the unix?
James Lee l...@oxdrove.co.uk wrote: On 05/03/2013 18:24, Paul Gress wrote: The only true Unix it runs on is Solaris, and only a pre-development version at that. I'm running the current 3.4.1 release on regular Solaris 10 u11. [No pre-development version of AOO nor Solaris.] James. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- This message was sent with my mobile phone. Please excuse brevity and errors.
Re: A friendly reminder
On 2/16/2013 2:04 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: [...] 5. Relax Always remember that unless there is a darn good reason, nothing gets decided at the ASF in less than 72 elapsed hours, so your reply can wait until morning. ... +1 Peter
Re: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community QA Testing Preferences
Neil, please let us know your email address which is subscribed to the list. The one you are using now is not. Peter On 1/29/2013 3:54 PM, Neil wrote: Please remove me from your email list! On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:50 AM, conflue...@apache.org wrote: Space: Apache OpenOffice Community (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS) Page: QA Testing Preferences (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/QA+Testing+Preferences) Added by Rob Weir: - || Name || Bugzilla ID\\ || Can test Windows?\\ || Can test Mac?\\ || Can test Linux?\\ || Can test Printing?\\ || Can test Base?\\ || Can test Scripting?\\ || Localizations (non-English)?\\ || | Rob Weir\\ | robw...@apache.org\\ | XP, Win7, Win8, 32 and 64-bit\\ | No\\ | Ubuntu 10.04, 12.04\\ | HP Color Laser\\ | Yes\\ | Yes\\ | No\\ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Change your notification preferences: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/users/viewnotifications.action
Draft: Guidelines for redistributing (an original) Apache OpenOffice with 3rd party bundles (e.g. books or template packages)
Hi,
from time to time there are requests to bundle OpenOffice with 3rd party
products. A typical case is that a publishing house wants to release a
commercial box in which they bundle an original version of Apache
OpenOffice with a handbook (either printed or electronic) and some
goodies like a pack of templates. As I'm expecting such cases will
pop-up frequently (mostly at private@, hence they're not too visible
here), it would be good to have some guidelines in place. I have drafted
some, please review and comment. The result is intended to be submitted
as a proposal here and should go on our website later.
Happy New Year
Peter
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=== Guidelines for redistributing (an original) Apache OpenOffice with
3rd party bundles ===
1) You must solely use an unmodified binary version of Apache OpenOffice
that can be downloaded by anyone from
http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html. If you build your own
product from the Apache OpenOffice sources, then you must give your
product a different name that must not be confused with Apache
OpenOffice. Under certain circumstances, you may then use 'Powered by
Apache OpenOffice'. For details, please refer:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#poweredby
2) You must always use the proper name 'Apache OpenOffice x[.y[.z]]'
(e.g. 3.4.1) for our product. IMPORTANT: Do NOT use 'Apache Open Office'
or 'Apache OpenOffice.org' or 'OpenOffice' or 'Open Office' or
'OpenOffice.org' etc.
3) Do not use any additions to 'Apache OpenOffice x.y.z' with the title
of your bundle that imply that you are shipping a product which is
superior to Apache OpenOffice, e.g. you must not use a title like
'Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 Professional'. You may rather use the title
'Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1' with a subtitle like '{YOUR_BRAND}
Professional Pack' because you have added value to an original Apache
OpenOffice.
4) If you want to use the Apache OpenOffice logo on your bundle, you
must solely use the original, unmodified Apache OpenOffice logo:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg
5) You must attribute the Apache Software Foundation and it's trademarks
with all components of your bundle (e.g. Cover, Box, printed Book,
electronic book, CD/DVD etc.). A proper attribution is:
---
Apache,[ the “Apache logo”,] Apache OpenOffice, OpenOffice and the
“Apache OpenOffice logo” are trademarks of the Apache Software
Foundation (http://www.apache.org)
---
For the detailed Apache Trademark Policy, please refer:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
6) You must make clear with all components of your bundle (e.g. Cover,
Box, printed Book, electronic book, CD/DVD etc.) that you are providing
an unmodified version of Apache OpenOffice with your bundle. A proper
way to do that it adding an informative statement like:
---
Includes the original Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 as provided by the Apache
Software Foundation under Apache License Version 2 at
http://www.openoffice.org/download/;.
---
7) Your setup routine must clearly distinguish between installing Apache
OpenOffice and the additional products of your bundle.
8) There may be exceptions to the guidelines as above, but they must be
explicitly permitted by the Apache Software Foundation.
9) You must contact the Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee
at priv...@openoffice.apache.org before releasing your bundle so our
community is able to review it. Please keep in mind that these are just
guidelines and granting you the privilege to use 'Apache OpenOffice'
with your bundle is at the sole discretion of the Apache Software
Foundation on a case by case basis.
Re: Presentation file under ALv2
On 12/27/2012 4:10 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: Yes Apache license is applicable to docs and presentations. If distributed via the ASF then they should be Apache licensed. OK, so it's the Apache License v2 that we have been choosing. We added a slide with IPR notices at page #2. The same information is available with the meta data. Anyone, please feel free to review: http://people.apache.org/~pj/Apache_Asia_Road_Show_2012_Beijing_OpenOffice_With_ALv2.odp Best regards, Peter Ross Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity On 27 Dec 2012 04:59, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote: Hi, does anyone know if there's a common/best practice to put presentation files under ALv2 (or maybe another license like CC)? Is ALv2 applicable on presentations and other documents at all? If yes, how to issue the license with the presentation file? First page and/or last page and/or footer of each page and/or metadata? Concrete Situation: Liu Shengfeng, Liu Dali, Liu Tao and me have been presenting at the Apache Asia Roadshow 2012 and want to make our presentation file public with a proper license. Hope everyone had a nice Christmas and wishing a Happy New Year Peter
Test for unsubscribe link
Test: It seems that the unsubscribe link isn't added to the bottom of each email. Peter
Re: Test for unsubscribe link
There's indeed no unsubscribe link coming with my email. Does anyone know if this is intended or is it a bug? Peter On 12/29/2012 7:14 PM, Peter Junge wrote: Test: It seems that the unsubscribe link isn't added to the bottom of each email. Peter
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Very good idea! Merry Christmas everyone Peter On 12/22/2012 7:16 PM, janI wrote: I am no designer, but I have tried to make a suggestion to better explain what I mean. The current proposals all have squares / circles etc. and apart from the original similarity with windows8 that has a special signal value. A surface (square/circle etc) especially with a border, signal: - limitation or positive a product that fullfills a single purpose - closeness or positive a product the specialize in one function AOO is in my mind much more, we are open at levels where normal products can only dream to go: - AOO is used in nearly every corner of the earth. - AOO is open for translation to no matter how small a language group - AOO is open for developers who want to hack their own specialized versions - AOO is open for repackaging supplying the core of a wider extented product. I could go on. I think it is important that our logo signals this freedom and openess after all we are OPEN office. I know my design is not professional, it is NOT meant to be so please dont judge it on that. It is simply a thought out of the box, and hopefully it can trigger some ideas. You can see my proposal here: http://people.apache.org/~jani/aoo.png Have a nice christmas, whereever you are in the world. Jan I. On 21 December 2012 20:56, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the links with logos Armin, I will examine them shortly... Have a good afternoon... On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi Michael, this (https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/** content/images/AOO_logos/ https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ ) might help, these are the checked-in logos. You can access it with a browser. Look at the SVG directory there; I am not sure if the complete gulls will be extractable; I fear they are 'cut', but maybe repaired by using the other wing. Looking forward to your suggestions :) Sincerely, Armin On 21.12.2012 17:48, Michael Acevedo wrote: Hello Armin, I was tempted to make a rounded corner marquee for the current logo but desisted of the idea after the vereditct of the Apple v. Samsung case where they were able to sue Samsung on using rounded corners for apps on their flavor of android. Still I find the rounded corners tempting and is actually reflected on the second logo that appeared on the last jpeg file I sent yesterday. All of these are good suggestions and I am now thinking of something on updating the orb, maybe keeping the basic shape of the logo which is a circle. I am rambbling here but I might be able to come up with something tangible during the next few hours. Now the only thing I would need to find is an EPS or PSD high-res version of the AOO gulls. Where can I find that? Thanks for the suggestions. On Friday, December 21, 2012, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Michael, thanks for investigating here. While I like the original orb and the colored rects seem to lead to windows trademark stuff, what about: - only slightly changing the AOO logo - replacing the orb with a shape also very popular today - keeping the color, keeping the seagulls ...but as shape, take the now famous 'app' form - a rounded rectangle instead of the orb, using exactly the dimensions of app logos, and the color blending of app logos (they use some 'bow' on the middle, making the upper half slightly lighter than the lower one). Just as on iOS devices. Maybe looking nice ;-) Will look modern :-) HTH! Sincerely, Armin On 20.12.2012 02:33, Michael Acevedo wrote: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/**UNJpH6G1sxI/** ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5% 2520Small%2520copy.jpghttps:/**/lh3.googleusercontent.com/-** lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/**ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/**
Officially approved Apache OpenOffice logo
Hi, can someone please point me to the official Apache OpenOffice logo as SVG or in another high quality vector format. Somehow I'm not able to find it. Peter
Re: [Proposal] Create new mailing list: d...@openoffice.apache.org
Rob, On 12/4/2012 2:55 AM, Dave Barton wrote: Original Message From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:14:46 -0500 This idea has come up on another thread, where we've been discussed the future of the documentation effort and a future call for volunteers. We'd like a dedicated list for these efforts. Name: d...@openoffice.apache.org OR d...@openoffice.apache.org (I don't have a strong preference for the name) Moderators: Please respond if you can volunteer as moderator. We should aim for 2 or 3 geographically dispersed. I can help with the geographical dispersion of the moderators. Peter I'll wait 72 hours, and if no objections we can ask Andrea to submit the form for the new list creation. Regards, -Rob Hi Rob, I am currently at UTC +1 if you want me to moderate the (long overdue) documentation list. For reasons I might explain at another time, moderation is all can contribute to the project for the time being. Although I will try to mentor/guide any newcomers who want to work on user documentation. Regards Dave
Re: How do they do that?
On 11/30/2012 5:10 AM, Rob Weir wrote: See the fundraising appeal on Wikipedia? E.g.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Magellan At the top, bold colors, really gets your attention, but it can be dismissed by the user. Would something like this (maybe with less bold color) work better for us? The problem with doing something similar for AOO might be that the people who are donating may expect that they are giving money exclusively for AOO while the policy says that the money has to go to the ASF without any preferred purpose. Peter
Re: Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13
我的中文不太好， I will speak in English while the others will certainly speak Chinese. Peter P.S. @Kadal Amutham: I'm moderating part of your messages through, please use the right address when sending. On 11/30/2012 10:48 AM, Kadal Amutham wrote: Are the proceedings will be in English or Chinese? If it is in English, are you planning a live broadcast via internet? With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 On 30 November 2012 08:13, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all, Sorry that I didn't update the status of Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 for a long time. Finally we confirmed the agenda. And we get 1 hour for Apache OpenOffice (14:00-15:00). Below is my proposed agenda: == 1. Part: The history and status quo of OpenOffice Speaker: Peter Junge Time: 20 Minutes Brief outline: + Overall introduction of Apache OpenOffice + History before Apache ++ From StarOffice to OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice + OpenOffice at Apache ++ New Challeges, e.g. License and different community vision ++ Organizational status quo of the project, promotion from incubator to TLP 2. Part: What's happening around Apache OpenOffice in Beijing 2.1. Speaker: Shenfeng Liu Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Introduce volunteers in Beijing and the contributions from them ++ Development, QE, UX, Translation, Marketing + Call for volunteers 2.2 Speaker: Hongyun An Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Contributing UOF to Apache OpenOffice 3. Part: Apache OpenOffice and Cloud 3.1 Speaker: Tao Liu Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Developing Enterprise OA system based on OpenOffice 3.2 Speaker: Dali Liu Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Social Integration with AOO == Here is the link to the event, where you can find the agenda, venue, and register: http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com/# . (Sorry that no funding support for travel.) I will write up a promotion article calling for participating (in English Chinese). Tell me if you have any comments/suggestion. Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13
On 11/30/2012 12:23 PM, imacat wrote: On 01.11.30 10:43am, Shenfeng Liu said: Hi, all, Sorry that I didn't update the status of Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 for a long time. Finally we confirmed the agenda. And we get 1 hour for Apache OpenOffice (14:00-15:00). Below is my proposed agenda: == 1. Part: The history and status quo of OpenOffice Speaker: Peter Junge Time: 20 Minutes Brief outline: + Overall introduction of Apache OpenOffice + History before Apache ++ From StarOffice to OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice + OpenOffice at Apache ++ New Challeges, e.g. License and different community vision ++ Organizational status quo of the project, promotion from incubator to TLP 2. Part: What's happening around Apache OpenOffice in Beijing 2.1. Speaker: Shenfeng Liu Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Introduce volunteers in Beijing and the contributions from them ++ Development, QE, UX, Translation, Marketing + Call for volunteers 2.2 Speaker: Hongyun An Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Contributing UOF to Apache OpenOffice 3. Part: Apache OpenOffice and Cloud 3.1 Speaker: Tao Liu Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Developing Enterprise OA system based on OpenOffice 3.2 Speaker: Dali Liu Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Social Integration with AOO == Here is the link to the event, where you can find the agenda, venue, and register: http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com/# . (Sorry that no funding support for travel.) I will write up a promotion article calling for participating (in English Chinese). Tell me if you have any comments/suggestion. Thanks! This is awesome! Too bad I cannot join you. By the way, I would suggest planning a live broadcast on mailing lists and social media in advance, if possible. This helps promote our project a lot. Any volunteer in Beijing can help doing this? Live broadcast would require the organizers to take care about. That's nothing we can do because we are guests there. As well, the AARS will be more like an industry event rather than a community event. I'm not even sure if that's an option at all. Maybe it would be easiest if I bring my camcorder and we'll shoot a video. Peter
Re: I used to work for a company that I have come to realize has been using your software for corporate purposes
Dear Leonard, we are very pleased to hear that because the Apache OpenOffice project is encouraging anyone to use its product. Best regards, Peter On 11/23/2012 1:15 PM, Leonard Treman wrote: The company is called Evitamins http://www.evitamins.com/ For the drafting of documents they have been using your .odt documents with open office.orgfor probably at least 2 years now on a day to day basis.
Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013
On 11/21/2012 3:46 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/13/12 7:21 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 11/13/2012 2:05 AM, RA Stehmann wrote: Am 12.11.2012 21:53, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: FOSDEM 2013 will be held in Brussels, Belgium, 2-3 Feb 2013 and it is a huge, free, developer-oriented, technical conference. OpenOffice has three opportunities to be featured there. 2) The Apache OpenOffice booth/stand. See https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_stands.html Again, I can take care of submitting the request, but we will need to be sure that we have enough people available to attend to it. Mechtilde and Michael will very likely be there, right? Yes, we'll be there. We have some years experience presenting OpenOffice at the FOSDEM. Organizers want to be sure that we will have at least two people on Sat 2 Feb and Sun 3 Feb, full days. I'm hopefully, some of our friends running the dev-room will join and help us on the other day. We prefer more people will join us, because running a booth with many people is more joyfully. But we're able to ensure the organizers wants even we've to do it alone. Please state your availability: if we have enough people, it would be nice to request a large stand instead of a normal one. Timeline: proposals due by 28 Nov. We think a normal stand is better than a large one. It's better there are lot of Apache people around a smaller stand than only a few around a large one. And we have no merchandize articles to present (like other projects). What would you want to give out if you could? Is there something that we could use to help the image of the project in the wider open source community? What would you want? (and how many?) In the past I have created T-Shirts for example and we gave them more or less for a small donation to people. They were initially paid by the Community Council (Team OpenOffice). The collected money (minus production costs) went back to Team OpenOffice . We could do something similar and the money would go back to the ASF. We had also other small stuff that we gave away for donations. Always nice are cups, T-Shirts, stickers, flyers,... something like that. Ideally not branded for FOSDEM but more neutral for AOO that it can be used for other events as well. We can also think about AOO branded note pads (~1500-2000) that we can give the organizers to put it in the conference welcome packs. Information on the note pad could be info where to find our DevRoom and the booth for example. We could also benefit some of some banners (roll up banners for example) If we want to do something like this, we need ideas for an logo/image we want to put on shirts, cups, etc. and of course the technical realization that can be used for the production. Other questions: - collecting quotes for the production and volunteers who take care of it - who can carry the material to the event (I booked my flight already and can't carry too much) The time is running and many questions would have to be clarified. Some more info and basic quotes: - rollup banner - 100-150€ - note pad, 1000 pieces, á 50 sheets, 100% recycling paper, 2 color print, glue laminated on one site, first quote I found ~1050 € - stickers, 100mm, 1000 pieces, ~150€ See for some concrete stuff (shirt, banner) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Conferences/FOSDEM/2009 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Conferences/FOSDEM/2010 I'm supporting your request. Maybe you should resend it as a separate [Proposal]. As well, I'm not sure about the policies. Maybe it's up to the PMC to decide. From my point of view the PMC. Best regards, Peter Juergen A. So a normal stand would fit. A booth is a place where people can find and meet Apache supporters to talk, get information etc.. People walk around and see: Oh, there is also an Apache OpenOffice booth! And we can encourage them to ask us, get information etc.. We can contact people who don't prospect us specificly. In that way a booth is important even than a dev-room exists. We like to invite other Apache projects to join and support us and to present their project at the booth. Regards Michael
Re: IPR PERMISSION
On 11/8/2012 8:15 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/05/2012 07:32 PM, Peter Junge wrote: On 10/23/2012 5:30 PM, ILLL Copyright wrote: Please find the attachment. The Institute of Lifelong Learning of the University of Delhi is asking us for permission to use materials mostly available at the old OpenOffice wiki. The attachment is now available at: http://people.apache.org/~pj/Reference%20N1.pdf NOTE: Item 7 refers to an image available http://www.openofficetips.com/. I would think that page not affiliated with AOO. Peter I think the majority of these items come from the OpenOffice 3.3 User Guide(s) which is dual licensed with GNU Public License, ver 3 , or Creative Commons Attribution License, ver 3. In either case, I think using the graphic elements are fine and in compliance with these licenses. Several contributing authors are on this list, however, and they may wish to comment as well. All we can really do is point to the license if we can determine what it is. Exactly. And, from my point of view at least half of the referred items would not cause any IPR issue (at least it's like that in Germany) because they're simple screen shots which everyone can reproduce within seconds so they lack of a threshold of originality. Peter -- MzK You're not going to believe car are you? -- Dave Harken (Kevin Spacey) Horrible Bosses
Re: IPR PERMISSION
On 10/23/2012 5:30 PM, ILLL Copyright wrote: Please find the attachment. The Institute of Lifelong Learning of the University of Delhi is asking us for permission to use materials mostly available at the old OpenOffice wiki. The attachment is now available at: http://people.apache.org/~pj/Reference%20N1.pdf NOTE: Item 7 refers to an image available http://www.openofficetips.com/. I would think that page not affiliated with AOO. Peter
