Re: URL-location for latest beanshell provider source code ?

2014-03-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hello;

Concerning beanshell itself, we did everything we were supposed to do to 
get Beanshell into the ASF. The code was relicensed and the major 
IP-clearance process was done. The author also submitted a SGA to the 
ASF secretary. You can check out the code in apache-extras:


https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/beanshell/

As I see it, what stalled the process were basic doubts about the value 
of the incubation process itself. In other words, we already did most of 
what was meant to be done in incubation (the IP-clearance and the SGA) 
so if any Apache Project needs the code they can consume it directly.


After the vote (which is apparently still open?), most of us that were 
involved, have been too busy on other things.


I would have thought that the Beanshell code was more valuable to the 
rest of the ASF than to Apache OpenOffice, where the extension is 
optional. Beyond AOO, what I would have really liked is to see the 
Apache Commons BSF update their support for Beanshell and take it in.


best regards,

Pedro.

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Re: URL-location for latest beanshell provider source code ?

2014-03-25 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi Pedro,

On 25.03.2014 16:29, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
 Hello;

 Concerning beanshell itself, we did everything we were supposed to do to get 
 Beanshell into the
 ASF. The code was relicensed and the major IP-clearance process was done. The 
 author also
 submitted a SGA to the ASF secretary. You can check out the code in 
 apache-extras:

 https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/beanshell/

 As I see it, what stalled the process were basic doubts about the value of 
 the incubation process
 itself. In other words, we already did most of what was meant to be done in 
 incubation (the
 IP-clearance and the SGA) so if any Apache Project needs the code they can 
 consume it directly.

 After the vote (which is apparently still open?), most of us that were 
 involved, have been too
 busy on other things.
Thank you for this update!

 I would have thought that the Beanshell code was more valuable to the rest of 
 the ASF than to
 Apache OpenOffice, where the extension is optional. Beyond AOO, what I would 
 have really liked is
 to see the Apache Commons BSF update their support for Beanshell and take it 
 in.
The Apache Commons BSF is only working on scripting language /engines/ in two 
forms, one being the
pre-javax.script (pure Apache versions that originate from the IBM opensource 
project donated to
Apache later to originally allow using scripting languages in JSPs) a.k.a. BSF 
version 2.x, and a
non-backward compatible version 3.x framework implementing the JSR-223 
(javax.script) specs.

BeanShell itself should probably be its own project under the Apache Commons 
umbrella.

---rony




Re: URL-location for latest beanshell provider source code ?

2014-03-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Pedro Giffuni wrote:

After the vote (which is apparently still open?), most of us that were
involved, have been too busy on other things.


The vote was considered closed some weeks ago closed due to inactivity 
on the issue (but if I understand correctly work had been done then, but 
was simply invisible to the Incubator):

http://markmail.org/message/ktpdncki6zdooar4

Regards,
  Andrea.

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URL-location for latest beanshell provider source code ?

2014-03-24 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)
While going after the current implementation of a script provider, I would like 
to target the
beanshell implemantion.

Found an URL (via the web) pointing to:


http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/scripting/java/com/sun/star/script/framework/provider/beanshell/

Just double-checking: would that be the URL to the latest version? If not where 
should I start to
research/find the latest version?

---rony


Re: URL-location for latest beanshell provider source code ?

2014-03-24 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/24/14 4:00 PM, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:
 While going after the current implementation of a script provider, I would 
 like to target the
 beanshell implemantion.
 
 Found an URL (via the web) pointing to:
 
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/scripting/java/com/sun/star/script/framework/provider/beanshell/
 
 Just double-checking: would that be the URL to the latest version? If not 
 where should I start to
 research/find the latest version?

the link goes directly in trunk of our svn repository, means trunk
contains the latest and greatest version and that is the place to start

Juergen

 
 ---rony
 


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Re: URL-location for latest beanshell provider source code ?

2014-03-24 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)

On 24.03.2014 16:32, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 3/24/14 4:00 PM, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:
 While going after the current implementation of a script provider, I would 
 like to target the
 beanshell implemantion.

 Found an URL (via the web) pointing to:

 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/scripting/java/com/sun/star/script/framework/provider/beanshell/

 Just double-checking: would that be the URL to the latest version? If not 
 where should I start to
 research/find the latest version?
 the link goes directly in trunk of our svn repository, means trunk
 contains the latest and greatest version and that is the place to start
:-)

Jürgen, thank you very much for reassuring this!

---rony

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Re: URL-location for latest beanshell provider source code ?

2014-03-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:

While going after the current implementation of a script provider, I would like 
to target the
beanshell implemantion.


This is only marginally related to what you are doing now, but note that 
Beanshell itself was proposed for becoming an Incubator project, even if 
the effort is now stalled (I think nobody has taken care of all the 
initial reviews, grants, etc yet):

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal

So if, done this, you would like to help bring Beanshell itself to 
Apache the first steps are already done!


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: URL-location for latest beanshell provider source code ?

2014-03-24 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)
Buona sera Andrea,

On 24.03.2014 22:48, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:
 While going after the current implementation of a script provider, I would 
 like to target the
 beanshell implemantion.

 This is only marginally related to what you are doing now, but note that 
 Beanshell itself was
 proposed for becoming an Incubator project, even if the effort is now stalled 
 (I think nobody has
 taken care of all the initial reviews, grants, etc yet):
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal

 So if, done this, you would like to help bring Beanshell itself to Apache the 
 first steps are
 already done!
If I can help from the second line, whatever has to be done there, yes. 
Unfortunately, I have been
tied down heavily with too many tasks to be able to step up into the front line 
for this initiative,
which I too think is very important, especially for AOO!

---rony

P.S.: My current interest in beanshell here is to double-check while 
researching a problem I have
been experiencing on MacOSX-AOO with a ScriptProvider for ooRexx, which I had 
developed and am
maintaining. (The same code works flawlessly dispatching ooRexx scripts on 32- 
and 64-bit.)


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